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07 Aug 2020 15:49:27
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07 Aug 2020 11:43:09
Glad to see it looks like the 5 sub rule is being dumped. Would have handed too big an advantage to the top clubs.

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07 Aug 2020 12:30:28
Yup now English teams will be disadvantaged in Europe as most the other leagues have voted it in I believe.

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07 Aug 2020 12:34:20
I feel kind of mixed about it. While I 100% that in its current format it would give too big an advantage to the top sides, I liked the possibility of it opening up chances for young players to get more minutes.

Maybe they could introduce a 5 sub rule that is more tilted towards giving young players a chance. Maybe you could have 3 normal subs, plus two that had to be players from your own youth academy and had less than 25 first team appearances.

That way there would always be two sub chances for young players and clubs would have a little more flexibility and wouldn't have to choose between playing an injured player or going down to 10 men if a player picks up an injury after the three subs have been made.

While it wouldn't give a disproportionate advantage to the top sides.

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07 Aug 2020 12:35:10
Dbrooks, how will they be at a disadvantage in Europe? As in more chance to rest and rotate players or did you mean something different?

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07 Aug 2020 12:57:01
Its to many changes, you are changing half your outfield players .

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07 Aug 2020 14:23:45
Agree with jred. 5 is too many. i'd perhaps allow an injured player be replaced if 3 subs have been made but its probably too open for abuse.

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07 Aug 2020 15:40:02
5 subs was a brilliant idea. Also a better way of giving youth players a chance of first team football. It was a progressive way to improving the English game. Remember when trams had no subs. A poor decision to go against 5 subs. More players would get rest aswell.

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07 Aug 2020 10:15:27
If people want further evidence that the future looks brighter then half of the 8 nominees for Young player of the year with Henderson, Martial, Rashford and Greenwood all nominated.

Ultimately I would be stunned if Trent Alexander-Arnold didn't win it again. But the fact that we have so many players nominated is a positive for our future.

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07 Aug 2020 10:37:09
Absolutely.
Will be exciting to watch, when these boys hit their peak.

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07 Aug 2020 11:29:29
TAA is much better than all other nominees. Also how are Martial and Grealish still eligible at the age of 24. I think 21 should be the age limit.

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{Ed007's Note - Any player aged 23 or under at the start of the season is eligible for YPOTY.}

07 Aug 2020 12:28:36
I really rate TAA, I think he might be better long term as a midfield. Apparently he played in midfield at youth level. I can see him as a dynamic box to box player, creating goals and offering thrust to midfield.

I can see why Klopp plays him at RB as his crossing is top class, but I think he could offer more in the middle.

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07 Aug 2020 12:45:21
I know ed7. I am saying that in my view 23 at the start of the season is a bit too old. 21 at the start of the season might be better imo.

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{Ed007's Note - 👍

06 Aug 2020 22:55:03
cant believe we are not in for Havertz. great little player. fantastic movement, brilliant left foot, and not too slow either.

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07 Aug 2020 07:39:09
Chelsea have a better manager are really building for the future with a discernible style of play and proper management plus the allure of living in London makes them more attractive.

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07 Aug 2020 08:30:37
Chelsea have a proper manager who came below us in the league and has such a brilliant tactical mind that he lost 6-0 over the two premier league games between us and them this season.

Behave Salford and leave the Lampard love-in to the papers.

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{Ed047's Note - both managers were miles away so neither any good in reality

07 Aug 2020 08:54:46
Isnt his best position as a number 10 where we just signed bruno to play?

Unless people have had enough of bruno already lol.

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07 Aug 2020 09:34:29
Exactly DSG.
Bruno has mind blowing stats already in half a season. In addition to that he is a leader.

We need an out and out right winger which is Sancho.

His adaption to English football will be much easier as he has already played his rookie years in Manchester.

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07 Aug 2020 09:57:44
Wait for Hannibal Mejbri,

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07 Aug 2020 10:01:18
I think that's the issue with Havertz, he is clearly a hugely talented player. Yet he is best used centrally, and with us signing Bruno in January for a big fee to play in the central creative midfield role, it really doesn't make much sense to spend a further 90m on another player to play the same role.

We need someone who could play a creative role from deeper in midfield. As cover/ replacement for Pogba should he leave.

We need a RW, and we need a CB worthy of being first choice for a club with title ambitions.

However, first and foremost we need to clear the decks of several average players who are claiming large wages and contributing very little.

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07 Aug 2020 10:03:58
bruno has taken this team to a new level, albeit we are still not at a level where we can compete for the title. The main difference between Chelsea and united at this point in time is the people and structure Frank has to support him - something one of the Eds mentioned a while ago. THat comes through in recruitment and player contracts especially. Meanwhile we are working off a shopping list and getting our pants pulled down.

Havertz can cover the RM, LM and AM positions adn would be a better fit than Grealish and may also be a better fit than Sancho. Plus we could do with another left footed forward.

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07 Aug 2020 10:27:26
Ryan, there's some truth that havertz can play across those three forward positions but most of his time at leverkusen has been spent centrally, where we already have a key player.

When there is a clearly available top winger available in sancho, i can see why the club is chasing him to fill the rw spot over havertz.

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07 Aug 2020 10:27:58
Can’t believe we aren’t signing a Bruno replacement already 😂😂😂😂😂

Oh and Frank Lampard? Please.

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07 Aug 2020 11:42:48
Kenedyandy

Megbri looks a player, if he develops next season we may have a player.

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07 Aug 2020 11:10:57
But Arteta is the second coming Ed047, haven't you heard? He took you from 9th to 8th😂😂😂.

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{Ed047's Note - I’m not pretending Arteta is taking us anywhere mate, on the other hand you guys...🤣🤣🤣

07 Aug 2020 13:31:08
Shoosh Ed047, our's took us from 66 points last season to a whole new level of 66 points this season. don't you see progress? Better behave or else people will gang up on you and tell you that you don't support football.

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{Ed047's Note - well to be fair they’ve being saying next year is our year since 2013 so it’s gotta come true at some stage Shan.🤣

07 Aug 2020 14:09:29
Shan you have moved effortlessly from every post being rashford is rubbish and needs sold to ole is rubbish needs sacked .

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07 Aug 2020 14:25:16
Is Shan the new Maze? 🤣.

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07 Aug 2020 14:52:57
I don't think any United fan should be playing manager top trumps against other teams.

We should be quietly going about our business not worrying about anyone else.

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07 Aug 2020 15:01:01
Yeah jred :)
Patience is needed to carry out certain plans.

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07 Aug 2020 15:31:17
Maze or no Maze someone got to keep you guys on your toes isn't it. else it would be boring with everyone calling Ole as Jesus.
I stand by what i said for Rashford is not a striker, has improved as a forward but not a striker. He lacks that striker's instinct.

I am not calling for Ole to be sacked right now given that he has achieved top 4 albeit by others poor performance rather than ours being better but still. We were 80+ points season before last and now at 66 even though we have replaced the "dross and poor" players with "United Way" players. So, my expectations are higher. I know Liverpool, Real, Barcelona, City, Juve will not be looking at Ole when they need a manager. I look at these teams and the level i want to reach.

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07 Aug 2020 15:46:47
You’re right Shan, none of us who think that Ole as Jesus (sic) want to reach the level of the top teams in Europe. What a thing to suggest. Also, you’re obsessed by points aren’t you? League position means more than anything, just ask Liverpool fans about last season. Time to drop the agenda maybe and be a little more fluid in your stand point.

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06 Aug 2020 21:05:45
Sheffield Utd have supposedly had an offer for Aaron Ramsdale rejected, suggesting they're not holding out hope of taking Henderson on loan again.

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06 Aug 2020 21:24:57
He better be challenging for our no1 jersey and not moving on permanently.

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06 Aug 2020 21:51:24
And so he should. Stop coasting at Sheffield Utd and come and get the No1 jersey.

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06 Aug 2020 22:06:38
Agree Eric.
Come and have a go if you think your good enough.
If he takes the place off ddg then he will have earned it.

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07 Aug 2020 10:03:27
I'm starting to think that the best solution could be to move Romero on and have Henderson and DDG fight it out for the No.1 shirt next season.

The competition will either kick DDG up the butt to find his best form, or Henderson will rise above him and take the No.1 shirt.

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07 Aug 2020 10:28:43
I’d say that’s the perfect scenario. Surely Romero wants to play some football as his career come to its latter stages?

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07 Aug 2020 11:21:45
Rumours that Leeds are keen on Romero, he would be a great fit for them. Although I'd hate to see him go there.

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06 Aug 2020 17:14:52
Something I haven't seen mentioned here was the reaction after the Martial goal last night and he everyone was smiling.

Ole said Tony was begging him to come on and told him if he did he would get the winner. I don't know about you but that feels a huge change in attitude and confidence from him. He was the best player on the pitch by a mile when he came on, suddenly lifting us to a level above. He's taken a lot of stick on here and some of it definitely warranted but he seems to be loving playing under Ole and absolutely thriving at the minute, hope he keeps it up.

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06 Aug 2020 17:43:01
He has been a beast in second half of the season.
Huge change in attitude and work ethic.
Credit to all Ole.

23 goals and counting this season.

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06 Aug 2020 18:00:35
To think jose wanted rid of him aswell.

What a difference a postive manager makes.

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06 Aug 2020 19:19:58
Ole is GOD himself. Jose is DEMON. Helps? What are Barcelona thinking going for Pochettino, haven't they seen Ole?

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06 Aug 2020 19:26:52
Oh Shan, bless you.

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06 Aug 2020 19:27:58
☝️😂😂🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️.

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06 Aug 2020 19:36:35
🎣 from GDS, let's check the net, oh look a Shan 😂.

On a serious note Martial looks a player reborn. He's found his hunger, he's making runs and off the ball movement that he just wasn't making 2 years ago. If he keeps this up and steers clear of injuries he will be a top player for us.

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06 Aug 2020 19:38:39
May be Barcelona don't want to pay to get Ole😁😃hence going for Pochettino.

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06 Aug 2020 19:41:54
You can't pleas everyone and shan is the proof of this. We get you don't like ole getting boring now. Do you actually support united?

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06 Aug 2020 20:16:00
dannyc

You can support United and not the Manager. The Manager is a transient employee. Questioning someone’s support for the club because they don’t think the manager is good enough is extremely poor. This is not North Korea.

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06 Aug 2020 20:46:04
I don't understand why few are bitter towards Ole.
Credit where it's due.

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06 Aug 2020 20:46:27
Possibly Red Man - but we’ve been awful since 2013, played turgid football for years.

OGS has flogged loads of players we wanted out, replaced them with younger and better players, and has us playing decent football and got us to 3rd and within reach of the Europa League. The rebuild that we all wanted is actually taking place finally.

Congrats would not go amiss.

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06 Aug 2020 20:52:48
Who would have thought that people could get so upset when we are doing ok 🤣🤣🤣.

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06 Aug 2020 21:14:10
I am not bitter towards Ole, how could I, he scored that goal but I am objective about him as a manager. I don’t follow the emotional sentimental course that some do. Yes we got top four and that was welcome, I said well done. However, I also see the same in game management and tactical errors, perhaps others overlook because of who he is. Ed001 and 2 say it, but because Ole has the sentimental choice no one will listen.

There is still no reason for danny to question someone’s loyalty to the club, because they don’t believe the manager is good enough.

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06 Aug 2020 21:48:50
In the last 6 months there have been many positives no matter whether you believe ole is a good manager or not.
Up to Christmas we were awful we finished the previous season awful. During those periods we played some of the worst football since dave sexton was manager.
As a result of the results and performances up to xmas this season we finished closer to relegation than top points wise.
But since bruno signed the results since got us to 3rd place our points total over that period only bettered by city and liverpool. With spurs 2 points behind.
Over that period players like shaw awb martial greenwood bruno matic and rashford all were playing very well imo.
I think for most of this season ole was probably only 2 bad results from the sack. Throughout that time he had conducted himself very well and mature and improved in his dealings with the media.
He has the job he has done just enough to hang on to it.
If he starts hot next season he has a great opportunity to build on the momentum he built in the 2nd half of this season.
If he has a poor start he will come under pressure quickly.
Lots of reasons to be doubtful of his ability but in the past 6 months in a results business he is beginning to give doubters cause to think and hope.
It would be absolute folly to think ole has cracked it but its also absolute folly not to recognise the improvement in some key players and results since bruno came in Jan.

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06 Aug 2020 21:59:14
I think after the Lord Mayors Show we are all experts. OGS has made some tactical errors, but no ore than the tactical and managerial superstars that were LVG, Moyes and Jose.

Personally, I don’t think OGS is the ultimate answer either to be fair, but compared to the three names above, he’s a breath of fresh air, and is finally doing the rebuild job everyone on these pages craved - and we are playing much eye pleasing football. For that, I say well done, keep it up.

Perhaps with the right structure, ie a good DoF and I think a stronger coaching set up to replace Phelan’s influence, we might be in good shape.

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06 Aug 2020 22:13:18
Redman I agree to an extent but if you support a team you get behind the players and staff, don't look for an excuse to have a pop at the manager at every opportunity. We finished 3rd which many of us thought was impossible at one stage and also into the qf of europa league, ole deserve some credit or respect. My point aimed at shan was simply every time I come on here win, draw or lose he bashing ole or a player in some way that's why I questioned him, surely there are some positives he can take at times.

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06 Aug 2020 22:29:09
Danny I've been a super for 45 years.
There is many a player or manager i didn't like over that time.
I don't like martial i didn't like rvp i didn't like ince or sexton but i jump as high as any supporter when they score or do well.
Critisism is fine its ok for antibody to express their opinion just because it differs from your way or thought doesn't mean they like the club any less than you. People who don't see fault and defend what others see as indefensible are just as odd in my book.
If redman was in charge ole would be first out the door
If shappy was in charge we would sign 78 players and all be happy chaps
If shane was in charge rash is a goner
If i was in charge martial would be gone
If noucamp was in charge he would bring Gordon hill back to play lw
Some would make pogna captain others want him burnt at the stake.
But we all follow united.

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06 Aug 2020 23:27:09
Ken,

Out of couriosity I wanted to ask why didn't you like RVP?

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06 Aug 2020 23:49:25
Hi Singh,
Hard to say exactly just never took to him. Sometimes i don't connect with a player.
Always respected him just didn't appeal to me as an individual.

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07 Aug 2020 00:04:26
Ken we all critise at time and have things we dislike at times I get that. We will never all agree on a player or manager but while they are here you get behind them that is the point I was making. I never said I support the club more than others I just made my observation and asked a question.

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07 Aug 2020 00:47:52
I hear you Danny i support the club some of its employees i admire some i dont. When they go out on the pitch i want them all to do well. Just like you or shan or anyone else on here. Except mighty reds of course😂.

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07 Aug 2020 07:49:44
I don't get how people get so upset or don't like players they don't know .
Its all lines in the sand on here and people not wanting to be wrong .
This season has been a full on rebuild, we have seen that but the direction has been there from the start . and some are finally starting to see that . Others still don't want to.

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07 Aug 2020 07:51:16
should also say criticising is fine but it needs to be justified, some of the criticism on herr is a joke.

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07 Aug 2020 09:34:01
Who is upset?
Who does peoples critisism need to be justified to? You jred?
People are entitled to critisise if they feel its justified. If you don't agree that's fine but nobody needs to justify anything to anybody else if that's how they feel they are entitled to say it.

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07 Aug 2020 10:12:03
My OP was a post about how Martial has improved and his attitude has improve which it has quite obviously true. It wasn’t a wind up or anything like that, every post on here these days turns into somebody slagging one of our players off or mainly the manager if they don’t like that someone has said that actually he might be doing ok.

I don’t think ‘people won’t listen because Ole is the sentimental choice’ Red Man, I think people are bored of being told how bad he is when he’s done a decent job. Obviously the majority like him because of how good he was as a player, but that also means he ‘gets the club’ and is a fan which means he can make decisions that a fan would make. We wanted Fellaini out, Ole did it almost immediately even though previous managers were using him as an important part of the tactics. Sanchez, Smalling, Jones, Rojo all players the majority on here wanted rid of that previous managers have used regularly, Ole doesn’t want them. There are others too. You can’t deny he is doing some things very right.

I said when Ole came in that I think he might end up being the fall guy and not quite be up to the standard tactically that we require, but will improve so many aspects of the club that the squad and club he leaves will be a much much better one than the one he joined, I still stand by that, I just don’t post it every day on every post to get my point across as people would get bored very quickly.

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07 Aug 2020 10:15:44
I would be disappointed if I couldn't get this starting 11 into 3rd place never mind Ole.

You think because we played well against a few sides we will do it all season? You remember the AMAZING run when Ole was appointed we resorted back. Now the honeymoon is over again after lockdown he will resort back when he can't go for it. He was playing for his job again, now he's got another full season to get his feet under the table.

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07 Aug 2020 12:00:25
DanJames, What are you on about? Deluded if you genuinely think you are a better manager than anyone currently employed as a football manager anywhere in the football league.

We all think we know best, yet as Ed002 will attest we actually know very little of the inner working of a professional football club. So how could any of us genuinely manage one.

While I agree on paper our current starting 11 looks strong enough for third place, the reality is that for large parts of the season we haven't been able to name anything close to our strongest 11. Pogba injured for 8 months, Rashford, Martial, Shaw and Matic inured for 2-3 months each, McTominay out injured for 2 months over the busy Christmas period, Bruno not part of the squad until the start of February, while Greenwood was doing well, he didn't really kick on until after the restart, where it was clear he had filled out during the break.

So context is needed to understand the big picture. The issue we have is that we don't have quality in depth to offer a challenge to our first team players to keep them on their toes, nor is there a rotation option to give them a break and stop them getting injured due to fatigue. Rashford had to play for nearly a month with a stress fracture in his back, before he got a second fracture and was out for 2-3 months.

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07 Aug 2020 12:06:52
Come on Shappy you're better than that.

If you want me to feed you: I think the point was I could manage this side with the starting 11 on show.

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07 Aug 2020 12:37:08
DanJames, really? Pogba and co will listen to you why? What experience do you have?

We are all backseat managers at times. But the truth is we don't have the ability or the knowledge to actually manager a top football club.

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07 Aug 2020 13:22:07
DJ, This is not play station that anyone can come in and manage.
You would need the respect of the squad, manage egoistic figures and much much more.

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06 Aug 2020 15:10:07
With Sanchez joining Inter on a free transfer, I presume he will be eligible to play Europa League and if we both get to the final, maybe play against us?

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{Ed002's Note - No.}

06 Aug 2020 15:13:45
Sorry, if he is eligible already then nothing changes. }.

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06 Aug 2020 17:08:27
So if he was on loan I presume we would have had a clause about playing against us? Could they have inserted any clauses into the movement of Sanchez, or even Lukaku and Young?

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{Ed002's Note - Not playing against the owning club only applies in England. A club cannot put restrictions on players they sell.}

06 Aug 2020 17:25:05
Oh OK, never knew it was only for UK or England.

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06 Aug 2020 22:00:27
On the the topic of Sanchez -
Adios to the worst signing in the history of our club.

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06 Aug 2020 22:09:13
He can play in the el i understand.

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06 Aug 2020 15:08:53
Interesting opinion piece in the MEN. Suggesting that Fred could be tried at LB as he is now seemingly 4th choice in midfield. While injuries to Shaw and Dalot saw Chong play at LB for a spell last night.

It's an interesting idea, only yesterday I suggested that we could do with a new LB at some point with Shaw's injury record (he has started 29 of our currently 59 games this season) . While Williams has been excellent he has struggled at times (to be expected), while being right footed along with Rashford playing ahead of him being right footed has meant we can be a little narrow down the left when he plays. I left footed option would be ideal to help cover for Shaw's injuries, while Williams could offer cover at RB or a more offensive option to AWB.

Chong did okay against fairly poor opposition but maybe a move to full back might be best for him in the future. He has a good frame, tall, quick and offensive minded. He would need to improve his defending. But from his first team appearances he does seem to lack the explosiveness or the guile needed to play as a wide forward at the top end of the game. Valencia made a similar move while many modern full backs played as wingers at youth level, AWB for example.

Fred also seems to have some aspects that might make him more suited to LB than CM. Hard working, quick, likes to play dangerous balls forward. He is defensively sound enough for a full back, while his energy would allow him to get up and down the wing all day. His occasional poor first touch and risky passing would also be less of a hazard on the flank than centrally. While having a little more time on the ball in the less congested wide areas might mean he loses the ball less and has a second more to pick the right pass.

Maybe the options for LB cover already exists in our squad, could either of Chong or Fred do a job there?

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06 Aug 2020 15:23:02
I’ve said a number of times to my mates that Fred should be a left back. I hope we try him there because he’s my least favourite midfield option atm.

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06 Aug 2020 15:38:18
we have Williams.

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06 Aug 2020 16:26:44
Interesting concept - had not considered it. Could be a good option although his distribution is not good enough surly for this position, let alone crossing ability?

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06 Aug 2020 16:48:15
He is one of the fastest player in our squad.

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06 Aug 2020 17:49:02
How can any professional footballer, maybe centre backs and goalkeeper aside, not be able to put in an accurate cross more often than not? Boggles my mind!

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06 Aug 2020 18:08:51
Eric, I think he has a tendency to try and force it too much with his distribution which often leads to him trying to play passes that aren't on. He also seems to need a second to get his head up. It's like the game is moving faster than he can follow in the heart of midfield. I think moving him wide will give him that time to look up and assess his options before he makes the pass.

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06 Aug 2020 18:37:36
Williams is better at RB than LB. He should be looking to be second choice RB and get a new LB in to compete with Shaw.

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06 Aug 2020 18:53:42
DanJames, I think Williams can play on both sides. However, I think naturally the game is easier for him at RB.

I think with a change to inside forward playing up front then ideally you do need a full back playing on the side of their stronger foot.
A left footed LB behind right footed LW and a right footed RB behind a left footed RW.

That way the full back on the overlap can stay wide without having to check back in.

Having someone like Irwin at LB is fine when you have a left footed Ryan Giggs in front of him who can and is comfortable staying wide. But when you have a right footed Rashford who will always look to move in field onto his stronger foot then you can become too narrow down that flank.

Considering that TFM doesn't look like a RB and Dalot doesn't look like he can stay fit, I think there is definitely a chance for Williams to play games on the right to rest AWB, and on the left to rest Shaw.

My concern going forward, is whether Shaw can stay fit enough to play 80% of the games a year. If not then we will need another left footed option at LB.

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06 Aug 2020 19:04:24
I agree he can play both Shappy. As a attacking threat he is better on the right. We shall see.

He is a good option to have.

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06 Aug 2020 19:47:36
Feel like fred needs a run of games to get to the desired form which I think he just won't get in any position at utd. The odd sub appearance and cup appearance gets you nothing from fred. This may be an unpopular opinion because I do think he does have ability but I would let him go if we can't get anything worthwhile out of him.

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06 Aug 2020 22:04:34
Really interesting point Shappy on his style. I’d love to see him make it here as his attitude and obvious skill is apparent. Just hasn’t quite nailed it yet for us - key point is if he can’t cross, the position can’t be his.

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06 Aug 2020 23:51:08
Irwin had a great left foot although primarily right footed he could cross very well with his left.

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Nathaniel Mendez-Laing

06 Aug 2020 10:42:46
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new player profile about, Nathaniel Mendez-Laing

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06 Aug 2020 15:49:54
Well done Ed. I would have run out of things to say about him in paragraph one.

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{Ed001's Note - it wasn't easy, that has been sat waiting for months until I could think of stuff to say about him!}

06 Aug 2020 21:57:36
Hi Ed002 - bit of a surprise read this one, never expected you to review a cardiff player!

As someone who tries to watch him every week his main problem in my opinion is fitness. The reason he doesn't start isn't because managers at cardiff don't rate him (in my opinion he's our best attacking player), but because he hits the ground running from the start and runs out of steam.

If you watched him whilst Albert was there he was brilliant, because Albert would do the graft for the majority of the game and NML would come on for the last 20 mins against tired legs.

Finally proof of the unplayable bit you mentioned was our game against liverpool in the premier league, where TAA got subbed at half time because NML had him on toast.

Either way good read and interesting to get an outsiders opinion on him.

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{Ed001's Note - that is not really proof. Trent was just a kid learning the game at that point, he has improved immeasurably since then. Mendez-Laing gave him problems, yes, but so did every winger that attacked him that season. That no longer happens.

I am sorry but I don't believe you on lack of fitness, having watched him a lot, he is not tiring, he just lacks intelligence. Fine to do the same thing over and over against tired legs that are just unable to keep up with him, but when he is up against defenders over 90 minutes, they soon figure him out and shut him out of the game. It is not fitness that causes the running out of steam, it is a lack of ideas on how to do anything different.}

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