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04 Mar 2024 21:10:42
That’s embarassing.

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04 Mar 2024 20:11:14
Yeah I'm in agreement with you ajh.

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04 Mar 2024 20:55:32
That doesn't look too extreme. The issue is we need another 3 or 4 good squad players. That brings it to around 8 new players needed. Every decision made over the next couple of windows is vital to get right.

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04 Mar 2024 21:47:29
Bruno has to go I think. He is always available, plays through injury, works hard. But he simply doesn't look after the ball and keep possession enough. When we kept the ball we created chances in the first half against city. But he goes for the impossible pass when there is an easier progressive pass to our winger that keeps the attack going. Mctominay was turning back and passing backwards, bruno trying to thread the eye of a needle for rashford. Why not just pass to garnacho and then support the play?

Agree with the rest. But the hard nut centre back needs to be quick, be able to pass and press resistant.

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04 Mar 2024 14:46:37
Yesterday's tactics were pretty much spot on. We're not gong to beat City playing their game. Our only chance was to soak up pressure and then break quickly. We did that superbly for Rashford's first goal. In the first half Rashford had two more opportunities. He mis-controlled when through and then fell over in the penalty area when given a sharp chance from a fairly acute angle.

The first half was a win and it was a win with McTominay and Evans starting, with no recognized left back, an out of form Rashford, a slow Casemiro, two teenagers who are being overplayed, no recognized CF. Given the gulf in quality, and the extremely limited squad available to him, I don't think it's fair to criticize ETH at all.

Sure, be annoyed that our club has become a mid table team, but there's a whole lot of history behind the decline preceding ETH. As Ratcliffe pointed out, if a whole slew of good managers have failed to change the dynamic then maybe the reason for the decline is not the managers. Makes sense to me. Managing MUFC is a poison chalice. Do any of you recall Mourinho, LVG or Rangnick's post managerial assessments of the club itself?

I'm on the fence with ETH. He did have a very decent first season. He has been unlucky this one with not just injuries to key players and disciplinary issues, but also ownership distractions leading to an absence of corporate strategy and support both in the short and long terms. The club is in abeyance. and that's before FFP problems.

Even when SJR's managerial team is in place it will still take a couple of years at least to really see if they are up to the job of bringing United back to the top table, whoever they decide is the right manager for the club at this time. If it's not ETH, so be it. One thing to bear in mind is that City did not become what they are overnight. The end goal may have been to recreate a Barcelona type dynasty under Pep, but there were steps on the way. For a while they had to settle on just being the noisy neighbors.

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04 Mar 2024 15:39:29
Good post shawthing.

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04 Mar 2024 15:51:45
For the players that we had available and the current state of the club I think the game was as good as we could have hoped for result wise and that is a sad view of where we are compared to the current top 3 clubs.
We made a decent effort of the first half but never really felt like we were in with a chance of getting a result, City had lots of chances and could have had many more. I think Dalot, Onana and Evans can hold there head high.
Rashford is an enigma that I am not sure will ever recover the desire, with his statement this week I think the celebration was as much to stick it to our fans for doubting him as celebrating the goal.
I have wanted to stick by EtH but I think we need route and branch changes over the next couple of years. We are evolving the ownership and senior leadership group and the next stage of that will be the manager once the season ends. After that it will be a cull of the players. We may have an up and down period but for th long term success it is needed.

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04 Mar 2024 16:26:56
Don't forget about Onana who, despite his howlers this season, has pulled off some saves so far that a certain Spaniard would be proud of.
He probably feels his defence is like Trigger's broom.

Ultimately, all-in-all, we're currently in the highest position we could really argue being worthy of.

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04 Mar 2024 16:50:28
Spot on Shawthing.

I honestly don't know what these pundits expected yesterday.
you go toe to toe with City you get hammered. ETH got his tactics correct. Try and soak up the pressure and hit them on the counter attack with what we had available.
I haven't heard one pundit on TV or on Radio mention anything about our injury crises.
Never mind that we had 2 if not 3 of our first 11 defenders out injured who would of probably played yesterday in Shaw, Martinez and possibly Wan Bissaka.
We had no focal point up front to hold the ball up because our top scorer was out injured in Hoijland.
When Liverpool, Arsenal or Newcastle get 1 injury it's all over the tv and radio.
that performance was as good as i expected yesterday, we were never going to go there out pass and score them.

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04 Mar 2024 17:43:57
Shawthing

Good post. A bit tribal atm and drama queens are out in full force today, so its good to read something that is balanced. We have 11 games to go plus cup ties. Personally that's what i care for the most atm. Fingers crossed reports saying Hoiland, Martinez coming back which will be a great boost.

If anyone cares to share any real news on malacia, mount, awb that would be highly appreciated.

Finally if anyone is going to the CUP tie vs Liverpool or in the Area it would be good to meet some of the keyboard warriors on the site. I have my tickets and looking forward to it.

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04 Mar 2024 19:15:09
Shawthing, your post was a breath of fresh air, offering a balanced and realistic perspective on ETH's situation. I'm over the constant negative takes from certain individuals. ETH is a competent coach who's being undermined by the club's ongoing issues, a scenario too familiar for his predecessors.

Success is a must in his role, and while it might look like he's not living up to expectations following a promising first year, I believe he's exactly where he should be. Last season was a pleasant surprise for many of us, and it seems we're now seeing our true level. Like Arteta and Klopp, ETH deserves time to prove himself within a properly structured club. If, even then, improvements aren't seen, it'll be fair to discuss his departure. However, looking at the alternatives Ed mentioned, I'm not convinced many are a better fit.

Just taking a look at our bench from yesterday's game gives a clear picture of where the club stands. We're significantly behind, and it's apparent ETH is trying to achieve something substantial with limited resources. The conversation around spending £400m often misses the mark; it's not just about the amount spent but understanding the inflated football economy where even that sum doesn't stretch far enough to bring in multiple world-class players due to the high transfer fees demanded by clubs today.

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04 Mar 2024 19:15:36
Good post Shawthing. The reality is that we'd struggle to beat City even with all our best players fit and available. The reality of us doing so with so many key players out was a fanciful dream at best.

It's just not a game that we should read too much into.

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04 Mar 2024 19:36:32
Perhaps we should just read into the 28 loses in 100 games and forget the city one, Jose lost 29 in 144 games to put some perspective on it.

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04 Mar 2024 21:02:25
we finished 6th in jose first season in a league that was easier and a better squad.

Jose win percentage is 62% eth is 61%. IMO a much tougher league at the top end evident by what we seeing atm and just a very different league. ETH will finish the season as the best united manager since fergie.

We can always get potter who has a 29% win percentage in the pl. 142 matches won 41 and lost 50.

Its a bit toxic with stupid stuff being posted over and over. going to stay away from this place for while. enjoy the rest of the season folks.

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04 Mar 2024 21:55:05
Couldn’t just let this one slide could you Strangeways 🙄

Good post Shaw.

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04 Mar 2024 10:34:53
Considering our coach is completely delusional and that he is close to becoming as big an embarrassment to the club as ole was, what are people thoughts on his successor.
Eth is as good as gone. There is zero hope for him. Complete ostrich with his head in the sand.
No candidate is perfect as far as I'm concerned
They will reach have some baggage or professional trauma behind them.
For me the key is the ability the new guy has with working our new dof and team.
Alignment there from the start is a must, so it will be interesting to see what they decide.
Potter
De zerbi
Tuchel
Conte
These are the 3 names I suspect it will come down to. Although ed002 had a few other names on the list but I think a couple of them are going elsewhere.
Can't wait for a change of direction led from the top down.

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04 Mar 2024 10:51:06
So which are the three and which is the extra? 😂😂😂.

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04 Mar 2024 11:21:50
I suspect an outsider. I have no grounds for that of course!

I just hope it’s someone with some balls.

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04 Mar 2024 11:33:39
ETH is not delusional, he did very well in his first season and has been unfortunate with injuries this season.

Also had to deal with the partial sale process throughout his whole tenure and subpar recruitment (which is party his fault no doubt but not helped by murtough and arnold in the first summer) .

I would like to see Tuchel come in as he is better with the media and man manager than ETH but wouldn't be against ETH staying for a third season.

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04 Mar 2024 11:57:08
I don’t think there is an outstanding candidate but the one who I definitely don’t want is Potter

He would be chewed up and spat out within 12 months

If he thought Chelsea was a goldfish bowl it ain’t nothing compared to Utd

My choice would be either Amorim or Simeone.

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04 Mar 2024 11:58:39
Agree with both sides really. he's had so much to deal with in terms of disruption and injuries. I genuinely don't think many could have done much more. He dealt with Ronaldo and Sancho pretty swiftly. It's obvious we needed a LB and CF, he'll know that more than anyone, but the club haven't obliged. Guess they're waiting for summer.
And yet it is a results game, and 11 defeats, many at home to frankly sides we would expect something against, is appalling. Some pretty underwhelming sides have literally taken us apart, particularly in midfield. I dread to think where we'd be if not for the emergence of Mainoo.
But, because it's fun to play along, why not.

Potter - really underwhelmed by this possibility based on the only two things we can go on - the Brighton era and the Chelsea one. How much did the brilliant background set-up of Brighton assist him, and how much did the woeful Chelsea one hinder him? How many in-game tactical moments of genius can I remember from Potter? Dunno if he's the man.
De zerbi - love this guy, although for all the brilliant results they've had a few shockers themselves.
Tuchel and Conte both scare me and are hot-headed. Just like everywhere else they've ever been, and just as with Mourinho, I'm pretty sure that after an initial bounce it'd go sour at some point.
Think Nagelsmann has to be in the chat. Available and (prior to EtH) seen as one of the best up and coming managers about not so long ago.
Amorim - don't know much about this chap but keeps coming up.

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04 Mar 2024 12:26:07
ETH does not help himself and comes across as delusional. I almost feel sorry for him.

“Rashy was dangerous” When? Watching a different game to most people pal.

“We were close to winning” Never in a month of Sundays. Nobody realistically expected to win that one.

“We are up for this game. I can smell it” What happened? Set up to defend and hope for the breaks against the best team in world at the moment. Was never going to work.

He asked Rashy if he had been touched! Seriously! He should have been tearing him a new one for being so soft and losing possession so far up the park when 1:1

Sadly I am now officially on the ETH out bandwagon. Clearly very much out of his depth.

Yes yes we have injuries galore, but there are teams out there with lesser players than our fringe players that have given City a better game and beaten us.

It comes down to heart and desire to play for the shirt and not the money.

Very frustrating year indeed! Do I know the answer? Not at all. I am only an idiot fan but I have seen enough to know it ain’t going to be right with ETH here.

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04 Mar 2024 14:02:09
Could very well be Potter because clearly liked by SJR and perhaps he thinks they can build just as good as team that was at Brighton and all work in Tandem, I would not judge anything on the Chelsea fiasco, would he be my choice, no, but least he will try play better football that’s more suited to EPL. and got to be a better man manager.

Hansi Flick would still be my choice, but looks like he heading elsewhere and don’t think he will suit the SJR way anyway, same as Simeone won’t, so can’t see neither of them.

Nagglesman, if your judging potter by Chelsea stint you have to judge Nagglesman by Munich stint, upset everybody, but like I said before too much
interference for anyone at Bayern.

Wild card could well be Ange from Tottenham, no doubting his ability as man manager and plays football the fans love and appears loved by everyone too….

For me anyone but ETH. For reasons I been saying for months and months.

Just hope it’s joined up thinking and a good management team is built. Plus att the coaches go, because they are not part of any solution and certainly not blameless in the fiasco we been watching.

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04 Mar 2024 14:07:58
Potter, Nagelsmann or maybe Amorim?

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04 Mar 2024 14:30:11
We were winning for a large part of the game.

Rash should have done better with 2 other golden chances in first 20 mins. And yes. Haaland missed 1.

Pull back on Rashford, not given. Other similar fouls given in game.

Ederson challenge is a stone wall penalty, borderline redcard.


We got beat by a better side. But going in on ten hag after that game is a little silly in my eyes. Rash was injured had to come off. Evans injured had to come off. We had nothing left on the bench to do anything. No striker, no leftback.

This squad is miles off that city team and we made a game of it. We still need to empty out the older players from this squad and start again around our younger players. Years time we are competitive again. If anyone thinks we get better by bringing in a new manager, unless you clear the players we will just delay how long it takes to get back to the top.

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04 Mar 2024 14:42:58
Big Sam. He’s not the hero we need, but he’s the hero we deserve.

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04 Mar 2024 14:11:32
He is delusional dsg.
Have you been listening to him? Have you read his comments on rashford? On Antony? On how close we are to city?
Reminds me of ole.

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04 Mar 2024 15:33:04
Strangeways - I get your points, but is it fair to give Potter a free pass at Chelsea because of the turmoil there at the time, but not allow ten Hag a fair crack of the whip when/ if things stabilise at Utd?

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04 Mar 2024 16:01:03
One thing forgot to add spenno, a lot of the turmoil is of ETH own making….

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04 Mar 2024 16:05:06
Spenno do you think we will get a manager that's not failed anywhere?

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04 Mar 2024 16:42:31
Is there such a thing Tumble, Pep or Klopp aside?

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04 Mar 2024 16:55:40
It is not out of the realms of possibility that we bring in someone out of left field with the new leadership group making the decisions. I am not sure what manager connections there are to City which Berrada may bring to the table, similarly with Ashworth should he come in (consensus is he likes Potter but this is heresay) .
I hope we are planning for the next move now and starting to have the relevant conversations if possible with managers. With the scousers, Barcelona, Bayern, possibly Newcastle on the look out it could be very competitive.

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{Ed002's Note - Ashworth is very close to Potter, but he is not the recommendation of Ashworth.}

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04 Mar 2024 16:58:58
What turmoil is that then Strangeways?

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04 Mar 2024 17:12:02
How is ten hag responsible for the turmoil?

Does everyone on here want the players to run the club? Train when they want to. Turn up when they want to?

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04 Mar 2024 17:14:13
You could bring in pep or anyone else and soon as we have a couple of bad results certain idiots on here will be calling for a change and criticising his every move 🤣🤣🤣.

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04 Mar 2024 17:27:26
I thought klopp got relegated in Germany I could be wrong.
But that's my point spenno no matter who we go for there will be a bit on their copy book.
Some will point to potters failure at Chelsea
Or tuchel at bayern
Or conte at spurs
Etc etc
We just have to trust the judgement of sjr and team.
That's probably easier than trusting the failed judgements of woodward murtagh and Co.
Unless we appoint pep we won't get 100% agreement on anybody.
I don't care who it is at all to be honest I really don't. I'll trust the judgement of the management and as long as we see steady progression I'll be fully onboard.
Hope is all we have as supporters imo. So I'll I'm hoping for is to see steady sustainable improvements.

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04 Mar 2024 17:36:13
Inzaghi from Inter. Plays 3-5-2. Dalot would fit nicely into his system. We’d still need a striker and a left wingback but it would rid our team of the likes of Rashford, Antony and our other incompetent wide players.

Maybe even Maguire would look better in a 3 alongside Martinez and Varane.

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04 Mar 2024 19:26:13
I'd be pretty annoyed if we hired Conte or Tuchel, both have a habit of rubbing people up the wrong way and causing unrest at a club.

Tuchel's style of play would be a better fit than Conte's.

But I'm not sure either would really want the job. A 3-5 year project to turn the side around before realistically challenging for major honours and what appears to be a job with less control than they've typically wanted at their previous clubs.

I don't think the United job is one for a vastly experienced manager right now. I think it's probably more suited to an up and coming manager, someone who can grow with it, the club and the squad over the next few years.

De Zerbi, Amorim, Alonso, Slot, Farioli or Tedesco could all do a good job I feel.

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04 Mar 2024 21:02:22
Please forgive the cheeky request Ed002 but are you able to say who Ashworth’s recommendation for manager is pls?

Thanks as always for any info you are able to reveal.

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{Ed002's Note - None of those listed were suggested by him. He will have a say.}

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04 Mar 2024 21:12:54
Thank you for your swift response Ed002 - very much appreciated.

You really are a master of intrigue at times!

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04 Mar 2024 07:39:08
{Ed's Note - Seano_ has posted a new article entitled, Nottingham Forest vs Liverpool: brief review

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04 Mar 2024 04:57:36
That's it. I am done with Rashford now. The guy needs to get sold.

Except the goal today, the guy did next to nothing. He looked really scared to go one on one against Walker. All the time he had to run against walker, he just tried to find a reason to fall down or give up. The first Foden goal could easily have been a foul as it could have gone eitherway, but Rashford, despite having clearly a lot of space to run to and do something, got scared and chose to dive on minimal contact.

This team needs to get ripped apart and get rebuilt. Is ETH still the guy? I am unsure. I can clearly see how much his post match interviews have changed from last year. Last year, I enjoyed his interviews as he was honest, took his stand, and was good at answering tricky questions. This year, he just sounds like he is scared and trying the defend even the stupidest things. Looks like he is scared of getting sacked and trying to make things look like its not as bad even though it is.

This transfer window should be biggest so far. If it was to me, i would get rid of all of these players:

Rashford: 80m. Despite being wildly unconsistent, i believe he will still guarantee a good transfer fee in this crazy transfer market
Antony: 25m- Cut the loss
Sancho: 40m
Maguire: 25m
Mctominay: 25m
Shaw: 40m- Too injury prone
Casemiro: 40m? hopefully saudi.

That is total of 275m. With maybe 200m of our existing transfer kitty, that is plenty of money to buy a well scouted and well researched player who is not going to cost a lot. Even if we average 40m for one player, we can easily buy 10 players, first team as well as squad players.

I know it sounds too easy and is not how world works but it does seem possible if we have a good recruitment team who know what kind of players to buy and where to buy. Ignore bunch of overpaid players and hyped players. Go for players who are good but just about to step to their best years. Similar to what Klopp is doing at Liverpool signing Szoboslai, Endo, Diaz, Jota. Clearly didn't spend huge money but are clearly getting job done.

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04 Mar 2024 06:50:00
“The first Foden goal could easily have been a foul”

It was in no way, shape or form a foul. If you’re giving a free kick for that, the game becomes a non-contact support.

Rashford was scared of Walker.

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04 Mar 2024 08:14:13
1000% not a foul. Strange decision to go down with so much space ahead of you @wazza.

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04 Mar 2024 09:18:19
Manger and some players are cowards.
Eth is also deluded his post match comments are simply from a man who is drawing. He is so far removed from reality just like ole was he is morphing into ole.

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04 Mar 2024 09:21:25
Srestha.
Our manager would get nowhere with those players Liverpool have. They wouldn't want to play for him.

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04 Mar 2024 09:26:26
I agree about the foul guys. Not a genuine foul but we can't lie saying we have never seen it given. Rashford was trying to do exactly that, dive in minimal contact as it is often given. The guy could have done much better but got scared of Walker. Does not deserve to be in the bench let alone in the first XI.

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04 Mar 2024 09:33:10
As an outsider looking in I’d be somewhat surprised if you got that big of a fee for Rashford, mainly because of A) his wages would put off majority of English teams (think only city or Chelsea would pay his wages and similar with Maguire last summer can’t seem him taking wage cut) Chelsea mayyy be daft enough. B) outside of England; from what eds / media have said Real are trying to make room for Mpabbe in wage structure, PSG may but, apologies if slightly xenophobic, would they see an English player as mbappe replacement that fans would take to and can’t see Rashford accepting Saudi league.

Only players that would catch a huge fee would be:

Hojlund (who a bit like Nunez for us was a huge fee others question but personally one of your best signing in years and looks like someone you build your attack around) . swap him and Rashford for city’s first goal and he doesn’t go down. Instead fights to keep play going or least try take on walker to get through on goal. Garnacho, Martinez, Mainoo or Fernandez - would only be tempted with Fernandez but mainly as lfc fan he just gets me goat and his attitude / tendency to try audacious too often. Saying that never realised but RH, LM, KM looks like a young spine could build an outstanding team around, with garnacho and Fernandez adding creativity / outlet for attacks.

Sorry for rather verbose reply - also onana has improved but not top tier ( eg alison or courtois save that second goal at near post and doesn’t have Edersons ability to play out) . But also not sure who could realistically get to improve on a solid keeper - so maybe no 2 who can push him like at arsenal.

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04 Mar 2024 10:08:50
Imagine Rooney for example in the same situation.

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02 Mar 2024 19:38:48
Maybe I'm naive, fancy word for clueless, but with our problems at left back why not just recall Brandon Williams from loan. He's got to be better than those we have tried to play there out of position.

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02 Mar 2024 19:50:16
Brandon william is not good enough.

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02 Mar 2024 20:16:00
You can't just recall a player that has a contract.

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02 Mar 2024 22:16:27
Perhaps someone like the manager should have figured we needed cover at left back (an injury prone left back at that), when the cover was already injured, a long way before March. Who is making those decisions? (And that we didn’t need another striker? )

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03 Mar 2024 00:58:58
Is he not still in the midst of his own injury crisis that has prevented him from playing a single minute in 2024?

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03 Mar 2024 04:54:00
brandon williams has been injured for a while and back at united going through rehab.

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03 Mar 2024 14:12:13
I’m not sure we can blame the manager for this one. He wanted a lb in the summer and got a loan signing that didn’t work out. The club activated the break clause for some reason and didn’t sign a replacement despite knowing Malacia is out for the rest of the season. That can’t be the manager’s decision.

My view is that the new people in charge don’t want ETH to bring in any new signings. They’ve left him with one striker and one lb at the end of January. There’s no manager on the planet that would want that situation. So we have to look to the club, and speculate that they would rather the manager not succeed and be replaced in the summer with extra money for the new manager, than risk giving ETH more money and still failing this season.

My suspicion, backed by ed002s info, is that the club have already decided that they want a new manager and the team will have to make do until the summer when the big changes will happen.

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03 Mar 2024 15:03:44
100% Danny, decision already made, he is gone and he knows it too. Only have to listen to SJR interview to read between the lines to that outcome, probably footballs worst kept secret atm…
TBF would you let him have anymore money going by previous buys/ loans
He let Fernandez go out on loan when he knew Malacia was out for season and Shaw is made of Glass, so would have thought a bit of joined up thinking from him may have been good…. But clearly not.

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03 Mar 2024 18:18:43
I can’t fault their decision. If you aren’t committed to the manager, you can’t give them money to spend. Just leaves the squad in a bad way for the rest of the season. As evident today, there’s nobody on the bench that can influence the game, and too many on the pitch who influence it in the wrong way.

Going to be difficult for the next manager sorting through the mess in the summer.

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03 Mar 2024 18:42:01
Everyone says ETH was handed a mish mash of squad well the next manager handed even worse, because ETH additions in my view are worse then what they replaced and they were bought for his style whatever that maybe.

Everyone knows what I think of ETH since day 1, but anyone who says Antony is unplayable is beyond all help!

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03 Mar 2024 19:25:21
Alvaro Fernandez and his agent approached the club to ask for a loan move as he wanted to play regularly again this season as he did last season while on loan at Preston.

He knows he needs to play most weeks if he is to continue to develop. The club. Couldn't guarantee him that at United. At the time Shaw was fully fit and Malacia was supposedly due back around Christmas time.

So the club agreed that Fernandez should head out on loan. While they sought Reguilon as a loan singing to cover. EtH reportedly wanted Cucurella but the club couldn't afford his loan fee. Further evidence that EtH has not had the backing that some people believe.

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03 Mar 2024 22:16:17
Brandon Williams is on 65k a week. Absolute madness.

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04 Mar 2024 09:17:33
Brandon Williams has a lot of things going on in his personal life to sort.

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02 Mar 2024 08:32:03
I fancy you will get some sort of a result against city

Come on do us a favour.

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02 Mar 2024 10:32:23
You have a good sense of humor mal.
Have you seen us play recently?

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02 Mar 2024 11:57:43
Malaga

I have you guys winning the league. Hope you get it done.

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02 Mar 2024 11:59:57
I think we will snatch a draw Malaga.
3 all
Rashford hat trick.

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02 Mar 2024 12:52:49
It will be utter carnage.

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02 Mar 2024 12:58:02
I think we’ll do rather well may even manage a shot on target.

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02 Mar 2024 13:39:23
No chance BR, no shots at all.

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02 Mar 2024 15:39:13
Malaga you started on the booze early down there or what!

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02 Mar 2024 16:13:12
I thought I been on the same amount of booze when I heard ETH say that Antony can be unplayable! Is ETH looking for becoming a stand up comic with some of the quotes he comes out with! But that one must take the biscuit surely?

Or have you heard him say better?

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02 Mar 2024 16:24:24
Strangebloke 🥱.

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02 Mar 2024 18:13:34
Malaga, I was at your mob last Saturday with my Geordie mate. You’ve got a couple of gems in Rice and Saka. Really impressive players.

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02 Mar 2024 18:57:35
Lol arsenal will not be winning the league regardless of whether we get a result.

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02 Mar 2024 20:20:21
I hope they do. Imo best team to watch over the last 6 or so games.
It's going to be very tight bren the 3 of them.
Fair play to Liverpool they are winning games with a lot of regulars out all season.
City don't look as dominant this season at times so it will be touch and go.
Makes it interesting.
Watching the 3 of them makes you realise just how poor we are to watch.

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02 Mar 2024 22:19:36
With goal difference possibly being an important factor in who wins the league I expect City to go all out against us. If they get an early goal I can see us being thrashed six or seven again. Our midfield is so weak and with no left back City must be licking their lips.

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03 Mar 2024 07:19:24
Exactly my thoughts too Salford.

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04 Mar 2024 06:24:38
Ken who are the regulars that have been out all season?

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04 Mar 2024 10:17:14
Chris they have had regulars out of their team all season.
Trent missed a load of games
Robertson missed a load of games
Salah missed games
Allison missed games
Jota missed a load as did Diaz.
Salah not too many or nunez but both been out at times.

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04 Mar 2024 11:55:59
Here is number of games the mentioned guys have missed.

Been in the squad

Alison 29 games
Trent 29 games
Robertson 19 games
Diaz 40 games
Jota 29 games
Salah 29 games
Nunez 39 games

Remember Klop uses a lot of youngsters for early cup games and if I remember correctly does not even have some of the senior players in the match day squads. Liverpool have played a total of 43 games this year across all competitions.

Feel free to look up United. Total media bias IMO. the united numbers is an eye opener.

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04 Mar 2024 17:41:37
It's not a comparison ahmad what are you taking about.
Klopp is top of league won a cup and is still in the other 2.
Played 26% of games without 1st choice keeper and rb and 60% without his 1st choice lb.
I dispute your claim Diaz has been in squad for 40 of their 43 games.
Less of the whataboutary.
My post was klopp has done well with their injuries. He has.
Eth has not done well with our injury list imo.
Is our injury list worse. Yes it is. Our are results worse Yes they are. I don't think anybody is disputing those 2 facts.
Bottom of cl group
Out of 1 cup still in 1 cup.
Not in contention for top 4 at end of Feb.
Why compare the 2. This bs about comparing injury lists is nonsense.
If you don't want to acknowledge that your competitors are doing well with injuries hitting them that's OK. I find it churlish and a little stupid and immature but that's just my opinion.
Yes klopp does rotate more. Maybe eth could learn from that but I don't suppose he will because he is of the opinion we were close to them doing it his way.
But I don't make the decisions our new experts do that. I wonder will they see what you do or what I do.

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01 Mar 2024 19:22:12
Zidane probably still better then any of our midfield?

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02 Mar 2024 11:47:01
Iqbal? That has to be your worst take yet, and there have been some absolute peaches😂😂😂.

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02 Mar 2024 14:15:29
Mate you should change your name from strangeways to Broadmoor 😂.

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02 Mar 2024 15:34:15
Deano it was tongue in cheek reply to someone who said ZZ for manager, but for some reason it got posted alone, although having said that he would be better then most our midfielders, even at his age…first of all he got a brain second he can pass a ball 3rd he won’t have to move to be better then them anyway….

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29 Feb 2024 22:54:05
I'd like to look at a few positives going into the next few weeks. These positives are crucial imo and if they continue to improve and remain as positives from now until the end of the season then I'd be happy with that.

1. Onana. I think he has been better and his confidence is on the up. He has only made a couple of saves imo that he was not favourite to make but he has not made nearly as many mistakes and poor decisions recently so if that continues it will help the team no end. We can't afford any more clown keeping. He needs 15 more good games out of 15.

2. Dalot and garnacho partnership on the right. Let's hope we see it back together soon. The more that's available to us the better.

3. Mainoo. I think he is being handled rajkot well by eth in terms of game time he us only 18. But when he plays the midfield looks more secure.

4. Rasmus . He needs to keep scoring if he finishes this season really well its our best chance of goals.

5. Garnacho. He is so positive. He plays like a fan would. His final ball and decision making is too far behind his ability. For me that's down to coaching. I see less flamboyance I do not want to lose that. As soon as he gets back out on the right the better.

Imo if those five continue to get better and bit regress then that's our best chance of a strong finish.

The 5 things that have to change are:
1 rashford. Needs to get back out on the left do less talking more running more better decisions more effort. I don't care if he doesn't like his position or his coach or his critics. Just go out and work hard for your team mates your supporters and your club., and apply yourself properly and make tyke most of your talent.

2. Bruno. Leaders lead. Be a leader. Lead by example.

3. Eth . Lighten up and be a lot more selective with your press comments.

4. Lindelof at lb is mad. Played well at cb.

5. Mount. I really like mount as a player. If he can come into the team and get a good run of games it will benefit the team.
Imo without going into tactics style of play and all that, on the surface seeing all the above would keep most of us happy I suspect between now and end of the season.

I'm sure you could all list a different set but these are the things I'm hoping for as a minimum and looking out for.

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29 Feb 2024 23:39:23
Nice switch of gears, great post.

I think your last point is critical. Forget tactics and positions etc etc. If the players just work hard, play with confidence and play with a bit more care and positive energy I think we can finish strong for the rest of the season.

City will be tough. We need to play like a squad of utd players and show them what we are made of.

Liverpool in the cup and league will be tough. But we can win these games with spirit and togetherness.

Too much doom and gloom around. We have to circle the wagons and come out fighting.

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01 Mar 2024 09:33:35
Agree, bare minimum in football is that you match the oppositions work rate, we currently haven't done that. I think Mr Rashford as well has just put an immense amount of pressure on himself with the statement he released yesterday. 3 days before the Manchester derby, a Manchester derby that carries quite a bit of importance for both teams, he needs to run and sprint more than any other player on that pitch Sunday after his comments.

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01 Mar 2024 09:49:09
Agree with all the positives, especially been impressed by Dalot this season, not many contenders this year but i would have him down as player of the season.

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01 Mar 2024 10:57:54
I think we will give them a good game and will depend on us taking our chances and being clinical. We will not have many scoring opps imo. Lindelof and varrane vs halaand is a worry as a pairing.

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01 Mar 2024 12:33:36
We look after varane by cutting off service to him. Easier said than done of course. Someone at the top of our midfield has to sit on Rodri - he is the player who makes them tick.

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01 Mar 2024 12:59:53
Speaking of Varane and Rashford, I’ve just seen a very interesting chart from Wednesdays game.

Varane was, by far, the most progressive player on the pitch with 13 progressions; 8 successful progressive passes and 5 successful progressive carries.

He’s a long way ahead of the rest.

Rashford, by contrast, was by far the worse of the starting outfield players. With zero.

Although Garnacho didn’t fare much better (2 and 1), if young Marcus thinks there is an unfair media campaign against him, he is dead wrong.

His interview has only made me want to see the back of him more. He’s lazy and entitled, and is now stinking the place out, just like Martial is/ was. He’s come across as a bit thick and not capable of taking responsibility for his performances, which means he is no leader.

I hate to tread on the border of being a “toxic” fan as I’m generally positive and will always back the manager and players, until they very clearly and obviously give up, as Rashford has so obviously done.

I’m convinced we will be a better side without Rashford.

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01 Mar 2024 13:20:36
I'm not sure we've got any option other than Rashy up top.
I've seen the calls for McT / Forson and can't see it. Maybe I'm missing something but I don't see EtH doing anything out of the ordinary against such a good team.
Maybe that's what we're missing. That Mourinho-style unexpected line-up or change that causes problems. We're so limited in our options atm.

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01 Mar 2024 13:24:24
Evra, Carrick, Pogba, McGuire, and now Rashford. Is it Easter already?

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01 Mar 2024 14:01:25
wazza

Rashford was playing as a striker. if you want to talk stats check out how many chances we created for him. ONE. A lot more crowded playing in the middle of the pitch than on the wings.

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01 Mar 2024 14:31:41
I would play Fernandes as false 9 and put mctominay on as a defensive 10, his main job being to stop rodri playing. But I don't think there is any magic formation Tbh, we will either fight and stick together and play hard all over the pitch, or we will capitulate and get stuffed.

Which utd will show up?

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01 Mar 2024 14:53:17
Ahmad. You have to stop talking rubbish.
A striker has to move, he needs to be an outlet he needs to show for the ball.
Our striker more like stroker was stood outside the box for our corners.
You can't find a stroker that's hiding. He hid for the last 2 games because he has a sulk on.
I see the post on the rumours page aimed at you in red ink. It's so accurate.
He has hid not made runs, he only runs away from the ball or drops into areas he can't receive it.
Maybe the 11 times he lost the ball were chances but he lost the ball.
There are only 2 people in this world defending his nonsense. You and him.

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01 Mar 2024 17:16:06
Give over Ahmad. Rashford has become undefendable now. How are you not seeing what everyone else is seeing?

Some topics get to a point where it's no longer worthwhile debating with the opposing side because they refuse to accept anything beyond their own opinion. This is one of them.

I don't mean to get personal but you are blind if you cannot see that Rashford's performances have been diabolical and embarrassing.

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02 Mar 2024 01:15:15
Haaland frequently doesn't get a lot of touches. There's much more to playing CF than waiting for a ball over the top and then trying to beat the defense for speed. #1. you have to fight for possession with your back to the goal #2 you have to hold the ball and bring other players into the game - who then they might be in a position to return a pass to you in scoring position #3 you have to anticipate where a pass/ cross is coming to, and then #4 you have to take your chances - In all 4 respects Rashford has been pretty abject this season. Add to that his moodiness, lack of discipline on and off the field, his public sympathetic response to Sancho, and on too many occasions, when playing on the wing, a failure to fulfill his defensive duties - I really don't see how anyone can defend him. The only thing I will say is that the left side of our team has been crippled by the virtual season loss of Martinez and Shaw, who together would surely improve Rashford's demeanor and effectiveness.

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02 Mar 2024 06:13:15
This page has been toxic towards so many great players over the years from carrick, rooney etc etc and only once they are gone and we spend years trying to fill the void we wish we had players anything like them and still a void in the team. Its one player this year and another one next year. Most wanted Dalot shipped and consider themselves football experts which speaks volumes.

I have said he is having a poor season so far but not as bad as some make it and question his desire and commitment or cares none and just here to make a big wage. That to me is one step too far. Antony is poor imo but never question his desire or the idea he is just milking a big wage and does not care.

This team is one of lowest scoring teams in the league and everyone's numbers are not great to look at and offensively we are disjointed. It is not a team that creates much in terms link up play and mostly dependent on individual moments from different players.

Finally this manager is no nonsense manager and if you are not doing what he wants you don't play. He drops you without a second thought and if Rashfords effort rate was an issue he would not be getting picked imo.

Finally I think he will be the last guy we sell and if we do he will get our biggest transfer fee since Ronaldo. Everyone out there scouts, managers must be blind too if they pitch up and pay it.

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02 Mar 2024 07:53:56
Don’t put Rashford’s name in the same sentence as Rooney’s 🤦‍♂️ one is the clubs greatest goal scorer, left it all on the pitch week-in, week-out, and led the line in arguably our greatest ever side (which included Carrick btw) .

The other let's Ross Barkley use him as a roundabout.

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02 Mar 2024 08:12:30
C’mon mate. When you have Rooney AND Shearer, arguably two of the greatest strikers to grace the field, calling you out for your lack of effort and demeanour then perhaps he is letting standards drop.

And whilst I have, until recently, advocated keeping ETH I am not sure anyone knows what he wants, fans or players! If he thinks that Rashford is cutting it then I am even more concerned for his future.

You say in one breath that the team doesn’t create, is disjointed, have link up play, relies on individual brilliance and is one of the lowest scoring. Yet you defend the manager and underperforming players. I’m confused.

I have supported United through thick and thin since 65. I have seen some absolute rubbish on the park and for those old enough it’s looking recently to be right down there with the lowest ebbs. Of course we will rise again and if you don’t mind I’d like it to be relatively soon!

I sincerely hope that I am soon eating my words and this mini run we are on is a sign that this is the beginning as ETH keeps saying.

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02 Mar 2024 09:28:04
Read an interesting article ranking every Utd striker since van Nistelrooy. Obviously doesn't include academy players such as Rashford.

Angelo Henriquez - don't remember this guy
Manucho - umm.
Mame Biram Diouf - vague recollection.
Radamel Falcao - one of my biggest disappointments.
Wout Weghorst - huh
Odion Ighalo - popped up with the odd goal
Henrik Larsson
Michael Owen
Romelu Lukaku
Edinson Cavani
Cristiano Ronaldo
Anthony Martial - wtf
Zlatan Ibrahimovic
Carlos Tevez - one of my very faves. Legend
Dimitar Berbatov
Javier Hernandez
Robin van Persie.

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02 Mar 2024 11:53:42
RvP is probably my personal favourite United striker, just so classy. Real shame we didn't get to see him for longer.

Javier Hernandez is a player that was massively underrated, the ideal squad player. I think he has the record for most substitute goals in the EPL. He definitely has the best rate per appearance.

I think Højlund has the potential to become a club legend, which makes signing a striker a little tricky this summer as we absolutely have to sign one, but it has to be the right player. Someone to support Højlund but not sideline him. I'd like to see someone like Lois Openda sign. A different profile of striker to give the manager more options, but very much someone who could also play alongside Højlund in a strike partnership on occasions as well.

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02 Mar 2024 12:16:25
Keafy

I defend the manager because I believe he is getting a tune out of what's at his disposal and in a very difficult environment and probably the most difficult job in football. injuries to key players has killed him and everytime you think we are turning the page something bad happens to a key player, then another one and then another one.

Our best starting eleven will give any team a run and beat them and we have proved that. The issue is when he has to dig into to the squad and the quality is not there. This is not his squad and even if he had the 8 players he has bought available there is 14 from from before he arrived. Granted you have guys like rash and bruno in there so not all average imo.

People who compare him to city, liverpool, arsenal those managers have pretty much build a squad of 22 of their choosing. Even with injuries they get to call on other players who they have brought into their squads.

For the hardcore people and we have plenty here they see this as an excuse and i don’t. Difference of opinion.

They think a good manager should somehow turn a glass into a diamond and teach old dogs better touch, better passing etc etc.

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02 Mar 2024 13:53:51
Ahmad

You said ETH is a “no nonsense manager, if you are not doing what he wants you don't play., drops you without a second thought and if Rashfords effort rate was an issue he would not be getting picked imo. ”

What? So how long did Antony play without getting dropped? Rashford js a disgrace to the shirt. The Ireland episode tells you what the shirt means to him. The strict disciplinarian you describe put him back in after what was it one game out? That isn’t a disciplinarian, that indicates the lack of determination to sort it out. That alone totally belies what you wrote.

Rashford (and Bruno) should be the first we sell. If we can get anywhere near the £80m for Ronaldo for Rash, I would be delighted. No doubt Rashford would have a good year somewhere new before going off again. Sell sell sell

Lastly if all these players are doing what ETH wants, they have not been dropped so your logic says that losing 15 games this year means ETH doesn’t know what he is doing.

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02 Mar 2024 14:29:30
He has failed miserably on too many counts to be given the opportunity to continue.
Progress not only stalled it came to a shuddering halt and things are now as bad a they were when he came.
He does not inspire his players they are poorly coached and set up.
He knows he is going we all do.
Looking forward to the summer.

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02 Mar 2024 14:43:17
I'd be surprised if Utd opted to sell him. it would need him to request a transfer. We're short as it is even before Martial leaves. I'm sure there'd be lots of interest. Despite everything he's still our most likely goal threat tomorrow.

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