Manchester United Banter

08 Oct 2024 21:33:43
Trying to catch up on news. What's happened in this meeting everyone was talking about, can't find anything.

08 Oct 2024 23:07:25
That's probably because they have not said anything yet.

08 Oct 2024 23:57:26
The media seem desperate to find something in it but by all accounts it was just the regular monthly meeting for the leadership group?

09 Oct 2024 00:44:32
Sky have been camping outside and earlier they said they had big news about the meeting and it was that it had finished and the people had left, they know nothing and it’s embarrassing.

09 Oct 2024 06:46:27
I actually love not knowing. It means we are a proper football club again being run by the right sort of people.

It is none of the media's business knowing anything before the club announces it. It's actually detrimental to the club for information being leaked to the press. The fact it has seemingly stopped is a very good sign that the club is getting back on its feet.

09 Oct 2024 07:46:21
100# Shappy.

09 Oct 2024 08:23:46
I thought that this was a set monthly meeting anyway, before the questions on ETH. It coincides with it, wasn't especially set up to discuss ETH.

Makes a good story for journalists. United, always big news.

09 Oct 2024 08:32:15
So the contents of a meeting between 4 or 5 people that wasn't leaked is a sign that the club is getting back on it's feet? That's THE most illogical reasoning I've read on these pages since, well not that long ago.

09 Oct 2024 10:42:26
Personally, given all the intense media supposition that this meeting would involve discussion about ten Hag's future, I would have expected a statement from someone if this meeting was simply a routine gathering of suits and Erik's future wasn't on the agenda.

If his future wasn't on the agenda and the committee have just allowed the media circus to paint whatever narrative they want, then shame on them.

This, considering the witch-hunt, will be the determining point from which I decide how I will regard Sir Jim and his team.
If ten Hag goes, then the cloak-and-daggers approach makes sense and I'll applaud them for managing the situation as best they can in spite of the media scrutiny.
However, if he doesn't and the committee have simply allowed a media-fuelled smokescreen to drive it's own agenda without showing commitment and, moreover, respect for their First Team Manager by clarifying their collective stance prior to the meeting, then they're, collectively, a f***ing disgrace.

09 Oct 2024 12:42:15
They don't nev to make any public statement at all imo.
If they are happy with him I'm sure they will tell him if not I'm sure they will tell him.
Nobody else needs to be told anything. Just get on with business as usual if they are going to change they will let everybody know in due course. It certainly does not need any announcement if there is no change afoot.

09 Oct 2024 13:59:54
If they make any sort of vague statement it will only add fuel to things and lots of conjecture for open interpretation. Other option is to make a statement of full support but then they have to be completely convinced in him no matter what the results to the end of the season.

It does put a lot more pressure on ETH unfortunately and not sure helpful in any profession to be living under this sort of spot light 24/ 7, where every word, every substitution, every line up or even facial expression gets articles written about it.

If he is going to turn this around it will be doing it the hard way and Barbarians at the gate every time there is a set back.

We need to win a few games on the bounce hopefully and that will help quiet down the noise.

I suspect come November break it will be a more relevant timeline if something is going to happen if he has not gotten enough good results through the next stretch of games both PL and Europe.

Its clear no one has a clue about what is going on and most to step out and say stuff are made to look stupid losing credibility and maybe that's why they will say nothing.

Away in turkey and Mourinho will be an interesting game to watch.

09 Oct 2024 14:08:09
Ork - I think that’s an absolutely cracking post and I completely agree.

We need strong and decisive leadership especially now we have a new structure in place. As you say allowing the media to drive their own agenda whilst seemingly burying their heads in the sand is exactly what the Glazers did!

Strong leaders would control the narrative and communicate with their own fans. This stinks of yet more indecision and just buying time to me.

It’s not productive and what effect does this have on the playing squad not knowing the managers future? In a Club where player power thrives, surely the players understand that a couple more bad results and the manager will be replaced?

Our seasons hangs in the balance and are we just going to watch on helpless whilst it implodes and another season is written off before the turn of a New Year. that's is what will happen without strong and divisive leadership. Pretending nothing is wrong whilst the media engineer stories and undermine the manager at every turn with contact questions about his job and secret talks with his replacement, is like you said an absolute disgrace.

I think we all know a few more bad results and he’s gone. Before Christmas we play Chelsea, Arsenal and City, with Newcastle to come before the New Year and Liverpool first week of January.

It appears to me they are just biding their time and hoping EtH will magically turn things around. They are being reactive rather than proactive but we all know they will be forced into a decision sooner or later.

In my opinion it’s been a horrendous start for Ineos. They have undermined a beleaguered manager by openly interviewing other candidates for his job whilst he was still in post. They have then invested nearly £200m into the playing squad and recruited new coaches to help. They are now procrastinating and praying he can someone turn it around otherwise it leaves their decision making in tatters and a massive financial back hole to navigate.

Sack him or back him and provide this Club with some much needed leadership it’s been sorely lacking for over a decade.

09 Oct 2024 15:35:06
Didn't Omar berrada just issue a public statement of support just a little while ago.

They probably like they feel they don't have to say anything right now. I'm fine with that.

If there's going to be a change made, I'm sure they'll say. Until then, keep going.

09 Oct 2024 17:01:56
Exactly angel.
Dlib they said they want to give him some time in the summer.
Why give an update to that?
There was no length to that if his position becomes untenable in their view they will act.
They have more patience than I do.
But I'm not owed an explanation. No fan is.
They will make a devision to change when they feel they need to. I would encourage that to be sooner rather than later but they are in control. They will make decisions in their own time and won't be led by you me or the daily star or ss news.
They don't want to fire him now after commiting to give him a go I can understand that but they can't come out and say they will back him because if they lose the next 3 they will probably have to reverse that and then look indecisive.
If he doesn't lose hand and improves the play he will be kept if he doesn't he won't be. They are hoping he improves I'm quite sure.

09 Oct 2024 17:59:00
Ork, I disagree that the club should pander to the media and come out and make a statement every time the media starts to speculate.

Personally I think pandering to the media's speculation by making statements only adds fuel to the fire and gives justification to their morbid ramblings.

The club say nothing because there is nothing to say. They will speak only when they have something they need to communicate.

You don't win by playing to the media's tune. You take back control by not playing the media's silly little games.

The club hierarchy have a monthly meeting, that has happened to line up with the last and current international break. Which unfortunately is a time where the media have less real news to report so start tumbling down the rabbit hole to Wonderland.

When a decision is made and something is happening I'm sure the club will make a statement. Until that point the manager is the manager, end of conversation.

09 Oct 2024 21:04:14
Ork, what if they’re in talks with someone else to take over but it’s not quite over the line yet. They wouldn’t come out and back Twn Hag, equally they wouldn’t announce his departure until they had their desired replacement.
Who knows what went on in that meeting.

08 Oct 2024 18:42:55
If we are getting away from constantly talking about the dross on the pitch, does anyone collect United memorabilia, and if so what?

I collect United Reviews, it has become a bit of an obsession now and I end up spending probably more money and time than is healthy tracking down copies.

08 Oct 2024 18:59:16
Tears.

08 Oct 2024 19:46:01
Key 🤣🤣🤣🤣.

08 Oct 2024 19:55:04
I remember my brother went to Old Trafford to watch Coventry vs United in 2007 when we lost 2-0 and Michael Mifsud scored both goals.

My brother was a Coventry fan and in the away end. During his celebrations he stood on the back of the chair and snapped it and brought it home for me as a peace offering.

Not a collection, but I still have it to this day.

08 Oct 2024 21:06:31
I have 1999 autographed frames shirt by the entire team. Won it at an auction of a charity event and got to spend the evening with Sir bobby which was incredible.

I also have Schmeichel's autoraphed gloves and ball signed by rooney and carrick.

Sir bobby pitched me a MEP service business believe it or not. Very humble normal kind nice man.

08 Oct 2024 21:19:07
I’ve got one of Schmeichels pool cues. Went to his house in Lisbon after bumping into him and inviting him to Estoril circuit to spend the day with the F1 race team.

Had a great day with the Sporting Lisbon guys.

08 Oct 2024 22:15:14
I collect Harry Maguire’s toenail clippings. Big bag that I smell every night before bed.

08 Oct 2024 23:45:26
Keefty if you invite me to an F1 race team as a consolation for having to watch dross from Utd it would brighten my gloom.

09 Oct 2024 00:50:30
Would love to but long since left f1. I could manage V8 Supercars.

09 Oct 2024 10:51:30
Jeez you'll be coming out as a train spotter next. Do you have a ponytail/ man bun as well? 🤣🤣🤣🤣.

09 Oct 2024 12:09:50
Your point being?

09 Oct 2024 13:26:03
There usually isn't one keefy. 🤣🤣.

08 Oct 2024 06:04:01
For a bit of fun and to address an earlier comment about how long fans have been around and their "pedigree". Can we list the first game you went to, how old were you, where and when? That will perhaps give away peoples age! Be good to see the spread we have on here and perhaps give some perspective to opinions.

08 Oct 2024 07:00:37
May 2003 for me vs. Charlton. 4-1 win with a RVN hat-trick!

08 Oct 2024 07:21:44
Mine was at Hillsborough. 1976. Cup semi v Derby County. Gordon Hill won 2-0.

08 Oct 2024 07:32:09
1990 FA Cup Final.

3-3 v's Palace

I was 9 years old at the time.

08 Oct 2024 08:43:12
Leeds at OT it was a 1-1 draw. Scholes for us and Alan smith for them. I think it was 2003.

08 Oct 2024 09:00:06
How about fans who have never had a chance to watch Utd but for TVs?

08 Oct 2024 09:31:24
1985 FA cup quarter final against west ham. 4-2 win on our way to FA cup victory that season. Was 8 and loved Whiteside and Hughes.

08 Oct 2024 09:51:41
Luton at home, 1991, 5-0 win.

08 Oct 2024 09:52:15
77 cup final v Liverpool I was 8.

08 Oct 2024 09:59:13
1987: Man Utd 3-1 Oxford. Jesper Olsen was my instant hero.

08 Oct 2024 10:12:05
1957. Age 7. Home to Aston Villa. 1-1 draw. Lost to them later in the FA Cup final. Lost everything the following February.

08 Oct 2024 10:17:56
Ha mine was the exact same as angry Keane, 3-3 v Palace in 1990, my Dad took me, I was 7 and I’d chosen United to support with my Dads encouragement. Little did I realise I’d have the best growing up ever to come, with United, lucky to have been part of all that really.

08 Oct 2024 10:19:31
1979, FA Cup 4th round replay, Fulham. Won 1-0, Jimmy Greenhoff.

08 Oct 2024 10:19:57
Manchester United 2 v 0 West Ham United, 26 August 1985.
Funnily enough Jesper Olsen was my favourite player and probably the reason I first followed Utd, being a fan of the Danish national team.

08 Oct 2024 10:26:32
I have been a fan since 1974 but first match was sadly

1977 Man Utd 0 Chelsea 1

Never stopped me believing though.

08 Oct 2024 10:45:08
For me. First game was 1962. I was 3 months old! First game that I watched properly was August 1966 WBA. But in all fairness it was just a blur as a memory.

First game as real active fan was 1970. Leeds at home. Lost 1-0

Had a season ticket from then until 2001 when we moved to Oz. Still regretting giving it up.

Spend. Jesper lives in Sydney. Met him when United were there.

08 Oct 2024 10:51:04
the famous 1995 3.1 away game defeat against villa, i was 12.

08 Oct 2024 11:07:11
Birmingham 2-0 at home 75 season.

08 Oct 2024 11:35:22
Bournemouth in the FA Cup Feb 1989. Finished 1-1, got a picture in the Match magazine at the time. Squad I found online was:
Jim Leighton, Steve Bruce, Paul McGrath, Clayton Blackmore, Mal Donaghy, Lee Martin, Bryan Robson, Gordon Strachan, Ralph Milne
Mark Hughes, Brian McClair.

08 Oct 2024 11:36:32
1984 - 1st December v Norwich. Hughes and Robson in a 2-0 win.

08 Oct 2024 12:01:33
19th August 1989, Arsenal at home - late 9th Birthday present.

4-1 win at home against the defending champions - I was hooked, but that was about as good as it got until the cup final.

Weirdly, there were stark similarities to the tenure of ten Hag - Fergie was heavily backed in the market, there were takeover murmurings and machinations that seemingly engulfed everything, there was an injury crisis, cup win seemingly buying the boss some time, and we ended the season in 13th.

Being devil's advocate here, but we would have had Bobby Robson as manager if that takeover happened - how different things could have been. 🤔

That said, ten Hag is no Fergie.
As a young lad I watched a few more games that season and saw Fergie as some grumpy, red-faced, pork pie-looking thing who reminded me of a bellend neighbour we had. However, as a self-confessed nerd, over the years I began to appreciate the art of orchestrating the team, whether that was helped by measured instruction or berating a player so badly that the recipient must have seen his gaffer's tonsils.
I don't feel that from ten Hag who, while trying to appear studious and composed, has the irritating habit of looking like a toddler seeking someone to blame for the ice cream falling out of his cone.

So there's my first 'Stripe', a match that is matched or bettered by little. That doesn't make me any more or less valid a fan than anyone older or younger, but I have seen the doldrums before and won't presume the 'Good old days' to be the overarching gauge for merit or suggest 'Long-standing fans' to be any greater authority on anything over younger people simply because their teeth are longer.
I mean, look at the state of the planet - some older people are morons.

Let's just accept reality.
Some people think they know more or should have their opinions regarded more highly simply because they're older - that's as pathetic as it is arrogant. As I've said before, I've spoken to many old hats over the years and there's an equal reflection amongst them of the levels of stupid seen elsewhere in the world.
A person's 'stripes' do not determine authority amongst a fanbase - it's not an army, is it?

Pedigree? Nah, delusion.

08 Oct 2024 12:15:06
February 2001 - 1-0 Win at Home to Everton, rather uneventful game.

08 Oct 2024 12:16:14
1959 pre season 1st team vs Reserves warmup match. Scoreboard standing only end, sat on a crush barrier on my Dad's mac. I was 9.
Waited outside and got my first ever autograph. Had to ask him who he was.
"Albert Quixall".

08 Oct 2024 12:52:36
Well done Keefy for getting that somewhat pointless poll off the top.

08 Oct 2024 13:00:34
First home match was King Eric’s testimonial. First away match was a 1-1 draw at Villa Park.

08 Oct 2024 13:18:37
Home to Leeds march 1979, I was 9, we won 4-1 Andy Ritchie scored a hat trick. Instant hero to my young self!

08 Oct 2024 14:16:26
77 season under sexton. 2nd game of the season, We beat Coventry 2-1 Started that season really well and then it went badly:) Those were some tough years.

08 Oct 2024 14:25:49
Embarrassing to say, I don't remember! Some time in the mid 60s. I do remember watching Best score a beautiful goal v, Sheffield United in a top of the table clash in 1971. Then there's the enduring memory of standing in the SE Paddock as a sodden Dennis Law flicked a V sign at the linesman for calling him offside. Dementia must be setting in!

08 Oct 2024 15:10:50
2nd December 1978. Norwich at home.
Went over on the old overnight cattle ferry to Liverpool with my dad and three uncles. Stayed at another uncle's in Audenshaw or somewhere like that.

Went down the day before and met Mickey Thomas, Jimmy Greenhoff and Sammy McIlroy coming out of training and they signed my autograph book. Jimmy was my hero, but Mickey was great craic with us, and with me especially. Back in the days when the players would just stroll around outside OT.

Game was frozen off the next morning! 🙄

Went back at the end of the month to see them play WBA. Great game, beat 5-3, but what a team WBA had back then.

08 Oct 2024 15:15:06
Ork, I remember that game as Neil Webb's debut. He scored a corker.

08 Oct 2024 16:44:16
United vs PSV in 2000 was my first game. 3-1 win with goals from Sheringham, Scholes and Yorke.

08 Oct 2024 17:19:12
West Brom 1981. What I didn't realise at the time or for a few years until my dad or grandad told meafter was that my all time hero was playing, but for West Brom that day, one of three future United players playing for the opposition that day with Robson still the greatest player I ever saw.

I have no idea about the players playing I just remember the atmosphere was electric.

08 Oct 2024 17:25:15
Spenno

Didn't he just, that was a proper little worldie.
I remember it more for being bounced around early doors when Brucey did a Brucey - what a start.

08 Oct 2024 17:55:19
Ipswich 6 MU 0 - 1980. Gary Bailey (my favourite player then) saved 3 pens.

08 Oct 2024 18:36:06
1985-86 season, Chelsea at OT, we lost to a last minute Kerry Dixon goal. Didn't wear my glasses cause I thought they would get knocked off from an enthusiastic crowd, so saw a blurred version of the game.

Eric and Spenno are right Jesper Olsen was a legend and still my favourite ever United player. He scored the penalty that day if my memory is still working.

08 Oct 2024 22:18:30
Watching us spank Roma 7-1 at old Trafford. What an introduction!

08 Oct 2024 22:29:33
geez everyone is old here lol. no wonder the conversation. bunch of old grumpy men lol.

09 Oct 2024 05:11:43
FA Cup Final 1979, beat 3-2. i was 8 years old.

09 Oct 2024 12:22:50
Okay so “pedigree” was a wrong choice of words. It was merely to understand peoples background as fans to understand what may or may not influence their feelings whether they be right or wrong.

Everyone else entered into the spirit of it but hey ho whatever puts wind in your sail.

I have never flagged my relative longevity as a fan to push my opinion and as you say anyone who does is foolish. Far smarter fans than me that are many years younger.

09 Oct 2024 13:27:23
Keefy most people are younger than you🤣🤣🤣.

09 Oct 2024 14:07:38
Keefy

It wasn't directed at you mate, I just grasped at the word which defines the position of another poster on here.
He knows who he is and I'm sure he read it, but has opted to duck it.

In hindsight, I maybe should have worded it better.
Sorry mate. 🙏.

09 Oct 2024 19:42:15
All good! Sorry for being grumpy!

07 Oct 2024 17:01:18
My take on the whole ETH situation.

During the summer it seems obvious that the club couldn't find a coach that (a) they could all agree upon, and (b) wanted to come here. Giving ETH a one year extension appeared to be a sensible decision. It provided him with the veneer of support, and gave the incoming directors more time to identify his long term successor.

There have been missteps since then. Notably, the signings of De Leigt and Zirkzee are simply not what the club needed. They look like ETH choices, and they have both struggled.

Now it looks like the club made the wrong decision in the summer. ETH's abrasive personality is a possible barrier to the team gelling, and, despite two full seasons, is still lacking a clear identity. The results, and performances, have been piss poor.

The only question really is, sack him and what?

There aren't any new managerial options knocking about now that weren't there in the summer, and, if anything, the club would have less time to make the right decision. Yes, you could install RVN for the rest of the season. But he's a key part of the floundering coaching setup, and there's no evidence that he'll do any better.

For me it's still a question of persevering until the summer, and giving the club more time to identify the right successor, or pulling the plug now in the hope that they can find them now. Neither is ideal, but I don't think Ineos can afford to get this decision wrong.

07 Oct 2024 17:17:42
But Danny rvn has really been here only 10 games not like eth who has been here for more than 2 years. We really don't know what rvn may get with this squad. He may struggle or he may get us through this rough patch.

07 Oct 2024 17:39:47
UA there’s also the question of whether RVN would be willing to step into the role of interim coach. ETH sought him out for this job, and may feel obliged to leave with the rest of the coaching team if ETH is sacked. Plus it would be difficult for an interim manager to bring this fractured squad together. I’d also be concerned of an Ole situation happening with RVN getting a string of performances out of the squad because they’re happy to be rid of ETH, and getting the job permanently. I want the new staff to take their time to identify the right person to coach the squad long term.

07 Oct 2024 17:42:27
Good post Dan.

07 Oct 2024 19:50:37
But, but, but.

I agree Danny, we can't keep jerking our knee and sack another Manager. Interesting that Ole, Jose, and ETH all enjoyed some success before things fell off a cliff. Let's assume ETH needs to go, we really need to fix some fundamentals before asking the next person to step in. Jose called it, Ralf called it, even LVG saw it and told ETH not to take the job.

So sacking the Manager isn't the simple solution some (especially ken) think it is.

It seems there is a lack of player application and commitment, that's a real tough one to address. SAF took no nonsense but those days seem to have gone. Given all the new players, you would hope that we would have fixed it, but it seems not, probably because purchases have been really beem poor.




. in.

08 Oct 2024 05:59:28
I remain totally torn.

I was, like many on here are with ETH, convinced that a tough no nonsense Jock was the right man for the job and vehemently defended him in many pub discussions. None of this forum nonsense back then! As I’ve said before all this vitriol between fans would be negligible if we met in a pub and had a few beers!

So I totally understand your absolute support of EtH. I would love it if he could replicate the swing in fortunes even if it’s not to the same extent.

But I feel he is just not a United manager. He doesn’t appear to have the nous or the character to pull it off.

Personally I would love him gone based on current state of affairs but will reluctantly accept the decision as I did a few months back.

Does not mean I have to like him!

08 Oct 2024 08:51:48
I agree Danny. Getting the right person is key. I don't care who they choose at all. Interim managers don't sit well with me.

08 Oct 2024 12:20:39
The next appointment will be irrelevant if we don't have the correct structure and ethos within the club. It is not a coincidence that every manager post SAF aside from Moyes and Rangnick has gone this way.

There is something fundamentally wrong within the club and getting rid of ETH will not fix it long term.

I'm okay with keeping a hold of ETH until the right man can be put into place. Another Interim is not the answer here.

Good posts Danny and Tony.

08 Oct 2024 16:54:42
Angel red spot on. There needs to be an atmosphere throughout the club top to bottom that everyone has to give their best and slackers will not be tolerated.

I don't care if the club loses a ton of money dumping the rotten apple players who show minimal desire and thereby no respect for the club or fans. Get rid. Once you a players willing to put everything on the line for the club and things will improve.

08 Oct 2024 20:22:00
Salford had the results gone our way V palace and Brighton we would be in a very different place. Because we were actually playing good stuff.

But the good performances did not convert into points. And when points aren't there, players stop buying into what you're selling.

07 Oct 2024 08:35:03
I've held back enough. Letting the experts tell me how bad things are and what to do to fix them.

Here's my main concerns.

1. This team has very little speed, especially in defense. At my age I think I can outrun most of them back there.

2. The players eTh has brought in are simply not good enough for the Prem league. Maybe they could play for Ajax again.

3. There is no rhyme or reason to some of his decisions on playing time and who starts. To go along with that there seems to be no accountability either.

4. The way we play I seriously doubt if Harry Kane would have 3 goals at this point. All the wingers want to do is cut inside and shoot.

5. It's obvious to this old coach that the players have no faith or confidence in eTh. I haven't seen any stats on this but I would be willing to bet we lead the league in passes backwards, especially to the keeper. What happened to attack, attack, attack.

6. To those that don't think giving rVp the job on an interim basis would be pointless since he is already there and will do the same stuff. Well I have seen first hand assistant coaches given the reigns and they changed things up. This way we have till summer to pick a permanent manager.

Basically United, under eTh, are tough to watch. No style, no passion, no results.

Something has to change.

07 Oct 2024 08:49:56
Good post coach.

They are difficult to watch.

07 Oct 2024 09:07:37
Really good post coach.
Obvious to me that you have a good level of understanding of the game itself.

07 Oct 2024 09:40:16
The bench said it all yesterday over £300m sat on the bench that ETH overseen to come to MU but not now good enough to get into the team?

07 Oct 2024 10:15:15
Media saying it showed he doesn’t trust the players he was given…. they were his picks . If he can’t get his own to play for him that’s a very damning indictment of his coaching ability.

07 Oct 2024 11:54:16
Ajax 2 reincarnated, slow passing dreary football that doesn’t work in the EPL. Said this before on other answers but the bench yesterday was damning. Defensive desperation not to lose .

The thing is, the longer Ratcliffe and new football structure put up with this, the less faith most of the fans will have in them.

07 Oct 2024 13:32:00
The problem just isn’t the manager
We have some absolutely shocking players some were already here when he came and the rest bought by him.
I don’t think he’s made one decent signing
We must be the slowest team in the league and one of the most boring
I think we have the worst forward line I’ve seen in my life watching Utd
Birtles and Davenport were better than these 2 clowns
Don’t get me started on midfield or the wingers.

07 Oct 2024 16:18:56
The fox

Go check out the top 5 or 6 teams and see how many millions are sitting on the bench. Evra and Vidic, who turned out to be great players, played very few games after their initial introduction which went poorly and then were integrated bit by bit with the occasional starts and sub appearances. Just because we needed a 6 and buy one there is no guarantee he will hit the ground running. some do and some take longer.

Ugarte, martinez and de ligt had poor games vs spurs and the manager made changes and we looked solid defensively for it yesterday, why make a big deal about it. Before anyone says it they are not a waste of money or bad players which I don't agree, it takes time that's all. Yoro will be the same and will probably make some bad mistakes.

It could be the pace of the league, fitness, playing in a new team with players they hardly know or many other reasons. Every team in the league drops players but its a circus when we drop one. its baiting the fan base and many are gullible enough to run with it.

07 Oct 2024 17:48:04
Ahmad. But we’re not a top 5 or 6 team. We’re mid-table at best. We have millions on the bench because we overpaid for them, not because of squad depth. Ten Haag has spent hundreds of millions of pounds and somehow managed to make our squad worse.

07 Oct 2024 18:11:31
It would be a miracle if Ugarte adjusted to the new league just by sitting on the bench. 2 games in a row that is.

07 Oct 2024 18:31:42
redseven

We are not a midtable team and our squad is not worse and a lot better. Just young and needs time.

08 Oct 2024 00:02:52
Correct. We are not a mid-table team. That math major works a treat eh! I cannot compete on numbers so am having a cheeky dig 😉

I agree we have, on paper, a good squad but not necessarily better than most of the league. On par, currently, at best when properly coached. But then again a good coach can get them performing above themselves as a team. EtH may well be that man, who knows? I certainly don’t and at this stage, whilst still teetering on the edge, am now overly enamoured. He just does not seem like a United coach.

But let's see what this latest cloud brings.

08 Oct 2024 04:12:34
Not overly enamoured.

08 Oct 2024 09:41:48
I'm not sure that's right redman.
Getting the person they want is most important. So waiting a few weeks if necessary is what may have to happen. This season as far a the league goes is over.

Interim managers don't sit well with me personally. Neither does going on like we are so it's a conundrum and one not to be rushed.
The sooner the club rid themselves of eth the better. Its not a question of if imo its a question of when.

The answer to the question when will be determined by availability of the right candidate. If that's not now it will be soon.

08 Oct 2024 13:10:09
Ahmed. We’re currently sitting in 14th and finished last season in eighth. Under Ten Haag, we are mid-table team, whether you care to admit it or not.