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04 Jul 2024 18:10:21
Mr Edd002 a question please.
Is Tobido, De Ligt, Braithwaite possible if Maguire, Lindelof go along with Varane?
{Ed002's Note - All of interest but unlikely all will arrive.}
1.) 05 Jul 2024 00:18:59
DL and JB this window, hold One of those two for a season and Todibo next year, when we are in the CL and Nice are not.
2.) 06 Jul 2024 06:46:34
United have agreed that there will be no transfer between the clubs before September 2025, so Todibo will not be turning up any time soon.
18 Jun 2024 22:13:56
Rumours of Zirkzee and Xavi Simmons today.
What do you guys think of them?
1.) 18 Jun 2024 22:32:32
Not seen anything of Zirkzee other than an awful lot of reports, so figure his agent is in overdrive (and apparently stands to gain £12m personally so why not) .
I think if they want to go Dutch Frimpong excites me the most. Seen him in multiple positions, and a better right winger than anything we’ve got and it’s not even his best position!
2.) 19 Jun 2024 07:43:52
Ornstein spenno. Never normally writes anything until incredibly well sourced.
But I suspect Zirkzee is waiting for Milan. However, if they don't come in, we may get out man.
3.) 19 Jun 2024 08:38:16
Zirkee looked good for a very exciting Bologna side who earned champions league football. Will be a good option at a reasonable price but most rumours were of him going to Milan, however they are looking at a number of options.
Could we do a loan deal for Simons with option to buy next year, someone has said that a sale for PSG is more beneficial that way so could give us a good cheap option.
Likely all talk or at least the club looking at lots of players.
4.) 19 Jun 2024 10:55:17
Zirzkee, good enough to play for a europa league team which we are currently but also not so good that he is going to be demanding to start week in week out instead of Hojlund. Seems like an ideal signing to take the load of Hojlund.
5.) 19 Jun 2024 12:26:58
Will we even play with 1 centre forward?
We won last 3 games last season playing without a cf and using Bruno as a false 9.
It very much depends on the tactics applied.
6.) 19 Jun 2024 12:59:18
I think we should stay away from any player where the agent demands 12.5m for the transfer.
7.) 19 Jun 2024 13:33:30
DSG, zirkzee has the option to start at Bologna or start at Milan both in the CL, or he could come and be a rotation option at Utd in the EL.
Believe both Barcelona and RBL want a loan for Simons so could potentially be an option.
8.) 19 Jun 2024 14:58:51
Fuser he can get an extra 5m a year playing at united.
9.) 19 Jun 2024 14:59:21
Why kurtis?
10.) 19 Jun 2024 18:02:39
I think agent fees usually equate to about 5% commission Ken. Based on his market value at about €50m this would mean he's wanting a 25% commission.
I wouldn't want to pay such high commission for a player. I'm not even sure if this is allowed as I read FIFA might introduce caps.
I'm sure an Ed or someone else can correct my understanding if anything I've said is wrong.
{Ed002's Note - Rubbish.}
11.) 19 Jun 2024 19:37:16
I posted on the banter site tongue in cheek about Xavi simons. He’s statistically very similar to Bruno. He’s quicker and better at dribbling 1vs1 this why he’s been used on the wing at before he was at RB. Puts in a shift pressing, is press resistant and looks to pass forward. He would be a very good signing.
Zirkzee is a 6’ 4” opposite version of Højlund. Where Højlund likes it in behind and plays well as a target man, Zirkzee likes it into feet, he drops deeper and looks to use his technical ability to turn defenders and likes to be part of the build up play. He’s a lot like Martial in many ways, looking to drop a bit deeper and pull off to either side to overload. He would offer us a great deal of tactical flexibility.
12.) 19 Jun 2024 19:27:52
Thanks for the additional insight Ed.
{Ed002's Note - You are making stuff up.}
13.) 19 Jun 2024 21:54:36
Ken so you’ll pay Zirkzee 160-200k/ week? Italian clubs have the benefit of lower tax for their footballers.
14.) 20 Jun 2024 06:08:41
Kurtis, the agent worked on his transfer to Bologna, and you would assume made sure there was a clause in the contract that allows the player to move for a specific fee.
Now that several clubs feel that fee is a bargain and want to take advantage of that fee (that only exists because of the agent) why isn't the agent entitled to charge a premium in terms of their agents fee after their work will have saved the buying club money?
Also if you are to set an arbitrary fee for agents linked to a percentage of the transfer fee then surely it becomes counterintuitive for agents to negotiate a clause in player contracts that set a transfer fee at a specific amount. Ultimately meaning that the player moves for below market value and the agent gets a lower fee because of that.
The whole reason for agents to want these clauses in player contracts is to help facilitate moves which they can then make money from.
In terms of Zirkzee if he's worth 55-60m in the current market, and we can get him for a total cost of 40-45m but with 12m of that going to the agent rather than Bologna, why should we care where the money goes. Ultimately we've got a bargain and a very good player for below market value.
15.) 19 Jun 2024 23:44:34
Which part Ed? I asked to be corrected if my understanding was wrong.
The €12.5m was rumoured to be what the agent asked for. A player database values Zirkzee at €50m.
FIFA implemented regulation capping agent fees at 3% of player salaries and 10% of transfer fees, but I know this faced legal challenge in England.
Again, happy to stand corrected by your insight if you actually want to offer it.
{Ed002's Note - The 5%, the €12.5M, the value of the player.}
16.) 20 Jun 2024 10:36:39
Thanks Ed. I'll avoid the swirling social media rumours next time!
10 Mar 2024 15:52:08
United are apparently targeting a LB this summer, Luca Netz has been linked, 20 at Gladbach.
Is anyone else being watched or rumoured?
{Ed002's Note - Luca Netz (LWB) Borussia Monchengladbach's versatile defender has been discussed with Chelsea. Other English sides have sent scouts.
1.) 10 Mar 2024 19:21:38
What about Kieran Tierney? Eds was there ever any interest about him from Utd? Always impressed me with his commitment and skill.
{Ed002's Note - No.}
2.) 11 Mar 2024 12:12:10
We are potentially looking at a new LB due to Shaw and Malacia being injury prone. I'm not sure chasing Tierney, another injury prone player, is the best idea.
3.) 11 Mar 2024 13:00:59
Thanks ed002! Chelsea have a good scouting department. Any others under consideration for Man Utd?
Harry Amass is well thought of but very young. Would be good to see him get some minutes and see where he’s at.
{Ed002's Note - Interest in the very versatile Devyne Rensch will leave with ten Hag. Miguel Gutierrez is well liked but he is likely heading elsewhere.}
4.) 11 Mar 2024 20:31:15
Thanks tor yr replies Ed.
19 Jul 2023 15:38:22
Hi Eds.
United and Arsenal had been linked to Molde’s Mannsverk in the past. Seems like a talent player.
Any interest in him now?
{Ed002's Note - He would not be able to get a Work Permit easily.}
25 Jul 2021 15:23:46
Varane deal apparently moving forward circa 45M done by the end of the week.
Good window so far, if true.
1.) 25 Jul 2021 16:04:00
Where you see that?! Anyone reliable?
{Ed014's Note - back of a fag packet
2.) 25 Jul 2021 16:12:00
Bouhafsi, about as good as it gets for French.
3.) 25 Jul 2021 16:22:59
Excellent signing on paper. Experience at the very top level and has great ability to both switch play and bring the ball out from the back.
However, he's very quick for a centre back but still strong and is good in the air, those are the areas where we needed an improvement on Lindelof and Varane brings that.
4.) 25 Jul 2021 17:09:26
If we can sign Varane we will have signed the best CB currently available. Players like Pau Torres or Kounde might go on to become better players but right now Varane is one of the top 5 best CB's in the world.
He ticks every box for what we want from a CB. Strong, quick, good in the air, can play out from the back, great reading of the game, world class ability and he has won everything there is to win in the game.
If signed we would have a CB as good as VvD and Dias.
5.) 25 Jul 2021 17:36:20
It remains to be seen if we do sign him and whether he can perform in the Premier League.
I don't know whether he would be available but I would prefer Laporte or Koulibaly. The latter is a huge guy who might be best suited to the physicality of english football.
6.) 25 Jul 2021 18:53:30
I'm not a fan of Koulibaly he seems like a player who relies heavily on his physical traits but isn't a good reader of the game.
Essentially he's a quicker Harry Maguire.
7.) 25 Jul 2021 19:31:10
Agree with Shappy on Koulibaly and in the past 2 seasons his injury record is a concern.
Varane has won everything with France and with Real Madrid.
That winning mentality which he can bring is invaluable.
{Ed0666's Note - very true varane is a serial winner shame his records gonna gonna get tainted now
8.) 25 Jul 2021 19:59:22
Gonna Gonna, is that why you are Ed0666 instead of Ed066. Just like more of everything?
{Ed033's Note - Maybe, it's because he's a Red and a Devil. :)
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20 Apr 2025 19:26:07
Does anyone actually like the 5221?
1.) 20 Apr 2025 19:48:53
Nope.
No progress on the pitch, become worse if anything.
Nit sure if the stat is correct but apparently since joining the prem, the wolves manager has gained 16 more points than amorim. Beating him home and away, playing the same formation.
If that is correct it is shocking.
I just don't see the hype around amorim. He should be doing better.
2.) 20 Apr 2025 19:54:32
Amorim.
3.) 20 Apr 2025 20:27:20
Wolves have a lot of players who fit that system to be fair. They also have a squad that's much better than their position suggests, with some very good players in Cunha, Andre, Gomes to name a few.
It's very hard to judge Amorim until he gets to assemble his own squad.
4.) 20 Apr 2025 21:05:07
I understand results are the most important thing but if you don't see why sometimes one step backwards for two steps forward is the right approach I can't help you. Our attack is hopeless but there are multiple reasons to expect us to be considerably better with a few key recruitments. We've half a really good side playing with half a terrible side right now. This year is now about Europa League and preparing players that will be around for next year.
5.) 20 Apr 2025 21:38:03
We were by far the better the team and we created plenty opportunities to win. Hojlund is hopeless. Could have had 3. He's always late and easy to mark. He also had a great opportunity to slide the ball across the penalty area on a break to an open player but decided to go it alone. Chance squandered. Everyone's shooting was abysmal. Mount missed two, Fernadez one. The only forward who had a decent game was Garnacho who was a lot less selfish and provided some great passes into the area. The system was not the problem. With a back 3 of Mazraoui, Lindelof and Fredricson we restricted Wolves to 4 shots of which 2 were on target. Our players simply failed to execute in the final moment. Basically the same problem we've had all season. You can't blame the manager for the dross he inherited.
6.) 21 Apr 2025 00:00:28
Where is the 5221. I can clearly 522 but for the life of me I am missing the 1.
7.) 21 Apr 2025 07:27:13
Happy with the formation here and happy with Amorim.
In my book he had a completely free hit up until the opening of the summer transfer window when he joined.
Next season we can judge him. Hopefully with the likes of Osimhen and Cunha on board!
8.) 21 Apr 2025 08:06:19
If we had players who could score maybe the system would work better.
9.) 21 Apr 2025 08:29:59
Doesn’t matter what formation you play with the (experienced) strikers we have.
10.) 21 Apr 2025 09:30:32
Obviously it helps having a centre forward who can score, but goals need to come from the whole team.
Very few Utd players look capable of scoring a goal even when it's on a plate.
Mount missed a couple of sitters yesterday. Garnacho fluffed 1 on 1 with the keeper against Lyon. Dorgu seems incapable of getting a shot on target. I don't think Yoro knows the opposition can also concede. I could go on.
11.) 21 Apr 2025 10:51:55
Nothing I've seen has convinced me of the formation, and there's clearly a reason none of the top PL teams play it.
As for Amorim, the jury's still out for me, but as someone said he has a free hit until the summer and I hope he comes good.
A good coach should be able to improve all players that are willing to improve regardless if they fit the system. So far the only player who looks to have improved is Bruno.
12.) 21 Apr 2025 11:26:40
Our attackers are truly awful. But they have proved they can score goals before, so no idea why they look so bad now. Is it the system, the manager, or confidence? Possibly a bit of all 3.
It’s probably true that RA will get a free hit this season, even though he’s likely to finish 17th. Looking at the fixtures, I can’t see where a win will come from. It is worrying that the results are so bad though. There’s always a chance the higher ups pull the plug before investing more millions into players that RA wants.
However, if RA doesn’t get some kind of miraculous recovery next season he will definitely find himself out of work by Xmas, and we start again. Not sure how likely it is that a team this bad can add a few players and suddenly become decent. It’s likely most of the players in the squad will be ones from this season. The additions probably need to be exceptional and not more untested young players.
Im hoping the recruitment team know what they’re doing this time, and they look at more than what they can do on the pitch. They need to be mentally strong as they will be under the spotlight 24/ 7.
Yoro looks decent, but other than that the signings in the last year or so haven’t filled me with confidence. The only real signing under RA currently is Dorgu, he’s youngish, it’s early days, but so far he doesn’t look that great.
13.) 21 Apr 2025 12:04:24
The system works best when you have two wingbacks who spend more time attacking than defending.
14.) 21 Apr 2025 12:26:44
People need to stop being so preoccupied with the formation. Effectively it's the same formation most teams in the EPL play regardless. Most teams in the EPL have a build up shape of 3223 or 3232.
You have three players deeper to give you more build up options and to limit a teams ability to press you high up the pitch as they would have to commit too many players forward to press and cut off passing lanes.
A box midfield has been very popular for the last two seasons as it gives you extra security through the middle and potentially allows you to have an extra man to either use to play through midfield or to effectively press and win the ball. Some teams have done this with a 2-2 shape others have used the diamond to try and find more space between the lines or to have someone do a man marking job to stop the opposition from being able to build through the middle.
Most teams then have a front three, with at least one if not both "wide" players playing Inverted or in the inside channel rather than on the touchline. This is both due to it helping solidify the middle of the pitch from a defensive point of view (leaving the only space to advance wide near the touch line where it is easier to press and win the ball back), and because you create more higher quality goal scoring chances from being closer to the goal rather than wider of it.
We don't really play any differently to other teams in terms of team shape. We start off in a 3421 shape, they tend to start of in a 4231 shape. Yet once the whistle blows either a midfielder drops between the CB's or a fullback stays deeper and tucks in creating a back three, with four in midfield and three players as part of the attack.
The formation isn't the problem for Amorim and our squad. The problem is both the quality and selection of players he has available to play how he wants to play.
A formation isn't a style of play, it is a team shape that should help support the style of play. You can be a sit deep and counter attack team in any formation you want. Likewise you can be a possession based team that looks to build up play and create chances through manipulation of space in any formation you want.
Amorim's style of play isn't a formation. He wants his team to have more possession of the ball, he wants that possession to be in the opposition half of the pitch, he wants to use players rotating positions to create uncertainty in the opposition that can create openings and goal scoring chances.
To do this he tends to play a high line defence to vertically compress the pitch and to keep the ball in the opposition half.
He likes his striker to be able to both drop deep and link play (in doing so they will often drag a defender out with them, and to be able to play on the shoulder for a quick transition if the opportunity arises.
He prefers his wingbacks to be more attack minded, and offer that attacking width. He has often played wingers as wingbacks more so than full backs. He will also want his wingbacks and his inside forwards to be happy to rotate positions when attacking, with the inside forward moving out to the touchline and pulling a defender with them and his wingbacks to then under lap, often then looking to make a cut back pass either to the striker who should be making a near post run, the other inside forward making a back post run, or to a midfielder making a late run into the box more centrally.
From a defensive point of view he wants to congest the middle of the pitch and make it almost impossible to play through, he tends to do this with two more energetic ball winning midfielders deeper, with a preference for one of them to be a ball carrying threat to break the lines rather than a passer. He doesn't look to play quick counter attacking football, so doesn't need a midfielder with an expansive passing range to make those quick longer passes to open teams up. Quick, mobile, energetic players who are intelligent in their movement to win back the ball and to stop the opposition from playing through the centre. Once they win the ball they need to make short to medium passes to the inside forwards or the wingbacks to start attacking pressure, or to run through the opposition line of pressure with the ball to open up space before making that short to medium pass.
The problem he is having has nothing to do with the team shape and entirely down the the squad make up. We have had two managers previously who looked to play as a more counter attacking/ transitioning team. Both Ole and EtH got their best results and performances playing on the counter. The players they brought to the club for the most part were players to suit playing that way.
That is almost the opposite of how Amorim wants to play. He wants his defenders to be high up the pitch to compress the space, not deeper to open up space behind the opposition.
He wants players who can hold possession, and make intelligent movement both on and off the ball in attack not players who are looking to just run in behind and shoot.
He has had less issue with getting the defenders to adjust to his demands than the attackers. They are more capable of playing a higher line than our attackers are at learning to be more intelligent and technically able in smaller spaces.
That is why players like Rashford and Antony have been allowed to leave, Højlund doesn't really suit the role but we don't have anyone else. Garnacho is more suited to a counter attacking set up but might be young enough to mould into what is needed. Players like Bruno, Amad and Zirkzee have been the most useful in attack as they are more capable of playing in smaller spaces and make more intelligent passes in the final third rather than play head down, run into space and shoot.
The other issue Amorim has had in attack is that he uses attacking wingbacks, and we didn't really have any. Amad when used at RWB was probably our best option for what Amorim wants. Dorgu has been signed to help solve that on the left. With maybe Amass and possibly Mantato coming up from the academy to keep an eye on.
In midfield it's no coincidence that Ugarte and Casemiro have tended to be the best options. Although another option to Casemiro is probably needed here as he isn't a long term solution.
Defensively we've been fairly good as a team. Where we have slipped up has mostly come from individual mistakes, especially at keeper. But that will happen while the team gets used to how we are supposed to play and until we have quality options in all positions meaning players further forward don't make mistakes that force the defence to do something different to mitigate it, which leads to mistakes or players being out of position.
The issue has been in attack, in terms of a lack of attacking wingbacks, a striker who can hold up the ball and link play, and creative inside forwards.
Fix the attack and suddenly we would look like a much better team. We would score more goals, carry more threat going forward, control the game better and conceded less chances because of that.
That is the issue under Amorim, we are transitioning from a reactive, counter attacking style, with most of the squad bought to suit that to a more proactive, possession based team, currently without the players suited to play that way. It's nothing to do with the formation.
15.) 21 Apr 2025 13:22:04
Tom,
If you think we’ve become worse then there isn’t much people can say, I think there has quite clearly been progress, we are playing much better we just can’t put chances away and our goalkeeper throws the ball in the net.
16.) 21 Apr 2025 13:58:52
People too hung up on formations, Onana still useless whatever formation along with all the front line.
I am not sure how anyone can say this front line scored plenty of goals before.
Garnacho always been hit and miss
Rasmus only ever scored against lowly EU teams hardly ever been better than 1 in 4 striker
Zirkee not great finisher
Couple that with slow ponderous CBs and Ugarte who can’t pass a ball 10 yards and we got what we got….
08 Mar 2025 20:32:11
Parallel life runs,
Ole leads this team with pride,
Victory is ours.
De Gea, Henderson
Wan Bissaka, Dalot
Shaw, Fernandez, Amass
Maguire, Mengi
Yoro, Axel, Lindelof
Bellingham, Collyer, Rice, Mainoo, Calciedo,
Bruno, Pogba
Amad, Greenwood
Haaland, Ferguson
Rashford, Garnacho.
1.) 08 Mar 2025 22:49:19
Jesus, has it come to this? Fan fiction to pretend the club can win trophies?
2.) 09 Mar 2025 15:30:46
Emotional obsession with ex player Ole. No wonder we have struggled to move forward.
3.) 09 Mar 2025 15:56:39
I dodgy understand any of it.
4.) 09 Mar 2025 22:58:13
What did I do?!
23 Feb 2025 18:25:41
Let’s Talk Facts:
1. Amorim took us from four points off the Champions League spots to joint 16th in the league.
2. Win rate: 29% (4 wins in 14 games), 1.5 goals conceded per game. For comparison, Ten Hag was at 58% this season.
3. Not a single player has improved under his management.
4. Rashford and Antony, previously sidelined, are now thriving - away from his system.
5. INEOS promised a clear game model and identity, yet they hired a manager who plays an awful 5-2-2-1 with an inverted right wing-back.
6. Two clean sheets in 14 games.
7. Eight losses - more than any United manager in their first 14 league matches.
8. In the same period, West Ham and Wolves have outperformed us.
Yet, despite all this, he refuses to change a thing.
Opinions:
Amorim talks a good game but has delivered nothing. His lack of tactical adaptation is baffling, and his inability to motivate or improve players is a massive red flag.
Yes, this squad isn’t perfect, but it has international players and young talents with high potential. He is massively underperforming with the tools at his disposal.
At this point, I’m just waiting for him to be sacked or to walk. I’m done. We’re done.
McKenna or Iraola would do better.
1.) 23 Feb 2025 19:39:23
Yeah, that's the way to go. Sack another manager. People like you are one of the reasons we are in this position. You are judging a manager who doesn't have his players and only a few months in. Good for you. EtH got more than 2 years and half a billion spend, what has Amorim got? Sack him get another in and the cycle repeats.
2.) 23 Feb 2025 19:59:35
Utd Road,
Patience is a virtue. RA only got to bring in a LWB. This current squad have thrown previous managers under the bus.
It looks like RA is being backed and is moving on troublesome players. Having forwards whinstone score goals would be a problem for any manager.
3.) 23 Feb 2025 20:36:59
Thrived. Calm down!
4.) 23 Feb 2025 21:02:59
This is why we don't deserve to get any better. Joker.
5.) 23 Feb 2025 21:16:03
DB,
Think he’s just a troll, it might be our old friend back, same post on every thread.
6.) 23 Feb 2025 21:32:51
UA - Yes it’s my fault. I had a row with Ferguson and sold up to Malcom Glazer.
MH - Patience is fine but we need to see incremental improvements not regression.
K - I don’t speak gen z.
DB - Self loathing United fans seem to enjoy this. I don’t.
Someone talk about the facts and statistics. Not feelings. Too many people falling for the charisma and charm. I’d be interested in what any of the Eds think?
7.) 23 Feb 2025 23:39:02
Think you’ll find the PLAYERS are the ones who have taken us from 4 points off to where we are now
What was the point in hiring a new manager ti play the same way the same non existent style they may aswell have kept ten hag in charge
It’s clear only a few players can work in this system but why should the manager change his way to suit a bunch of players who already made a manager change how he wanted to play.
If your in work and you don’t do what your manager says does he adapt and say “how do you want to work”
I don’t get why he would play a way to suit the players better just to get a few extra results then have to start again in the summer, this way we and the club can see who is miles off what we need and can make a start on an actual re build of the club
The past 10 years has took a big massive dump on the legacy and hard work of fergie and his staff and what they built for 26 years
Yet again our non existent patient fans can’t take a bit of an ego hit and are already calling for a new manager
A manager that has taken over a squad made up of another 3/ 4 managers players to play in a 0 system
Our best 2 players were dorgu and ugarte weekend and it’s no surprise one has played in the managers system and one was bought to fit into his system
Get another 5/ 6 players and will we see an improvement
We just have to take this season for what it is and maybe just maybe we could still actually win a cup as bad as it’s been
We all called for change and everyone that has left the club over the past 12 months we all were calling to leave
Give the manager time
I thought ten hag should have been given more time even with how the club was going, I’m not going to back this lot of players anymore when they can’t even be bothered to sprint for the badge and work hard
And if it means we finish 17th to do what we need to do then I’m all for it. I’d take a last day survival win for this club to get its act together. we have been drifting in ghost mode for years.
As Amorim said when he came in there will be a storm. But I’ll give him all the time he needs over this squad, they are a disgrace to the badge and the memories of every one that’s wore the shirt.
8.) 24 Feb 2025 01:30:32
Gds why everyone who got an opinion, do you jump on as a troll, you might not agree with his opinion, I certainly don’t, but to brand him a troll because of it, shows your immaturity and foolishness, .
He clearly don’t like RA that’s fine, he states facts that’s fine, it’s his opinion that’s fine, get a life and stop barracking people who have opinion.
For the record, I’m happy for RA to give it a good shot, and I thought the football was worse under ETH and he is responsible for much of this crap with terrible buys. Onana a joke, De ligt a joke Rasmus joke Zorkee joke, Antony joke the list goes on.
9.) 24 Feb 2025 04:08:02
Open heart surgery Ralf said. Amorim comes and starts to slow the super tanker that was heading to oblivion, starts to move players on, starts the surgery. However someone wants to jump ship to go back to the utter mess we had and have had for 12 years. We must give Amorim time. He has the right profile, better than we have had since SAF first arrived. To do anything else would be utterly futile.
10.) 24 Feb 2025 04:46:52
I don’t jump on anyone with an opinion as a troll mate, I point out when trolls come on here and post the same thing in every thread saying the club is done etc, that’s not what a fan does and we’ve had a poster who has posted over the last few years under different names who does exactly this, gets banned then adds a new name. So if someone is a troll I’ll call them a troll, most of the time he doesn’t even hide it.
11.) 24 Feb 2025 08:38:17
Red man the surgery already took place.
The club gave us a hernia op instead of open heart surgery though.
12.) 24 Feb 2025 09:13:43
Well put Bolger.
13.) 24 Feb 2025 09:26:32
But GDS you call everyone a troll who got a different opinion than you, that’s just crazy.
Just because you think in your opinion they are a troll, that don’t make them a troll, there opinion if they post is just as relevant as any you post, so bear that in mind instead of keep abusing them, some could say your post are even worse than those you call a troll because yours are so biased….
14.) 24 Feb 2025 19:12:49
Ta German.
GDS you resort to calling people a troll because you can’t articulate a counter argument as the facts speaks for themselves. Give me a reason to change my mind, that’s what the site is for.
Bolger - I’m a match going red and not interested in top red points.
I’ve been on this site for years so I don’t pop up, I’m lurking and feel my perspective is valid and fine to share. The reaction here emphasises how many fans are operating on faith. Which my opinion is baseless (see above) .
I fail to understand how you have such belief Amorim is the guy when he’s been appointed by a group who have failed and made mistakes in recent appointments.
Secondly I’m sadden how many see it as acceptable to denigrate players for poor performances yet believe the manager is beyond reproach. I see comments about redundancy and the state of the club’s finances yet no acknowledgment that getting results now could help, and that responsibility lies with manager.
The facts speak for themselves as does the eye test and I’m confident if things don’t improve there will be a change in management again. That’s how a performance driven industry works. If there’s improvement I’d be delighted but find objective facts indicate this is unlikely.
22 Nov 2024 06:44:12
What people’s opinions of Chris Rigg?
I’ve watched a couple of Sunderland games on Tv, seems a good prospect but not seen too much of him.
Anyone watched him live?
1.) 22 Nov 2024 10:09:24
Someone I know well who goes to Sunderland matches home and away thinks he’s the best talent he’s seen at Sunderland in his 25 years of going to the games.
I’ve saw him play once on tv and he looked good.
2.) 22 Nov 2024 10:59:49
Ed001,
Have you seen Chris Rigg play?
{Ed001's Note - only a little but he shone as the best player in the team by a mile.}
3.) 22 Nov 2024 11:08:43
Apparently a lot of scouts watching him. Definitely talented but the manager may prefer to buy somebody he can rely on straight away.
4.) 22 Nov 2024 11:41:39
Cheers Ed001.
{Ed001's Note - very welcome mate.}
5.) 23 Nov 2024 09:03:50
living 20 mins away i know a lot of s'land fans and they rate above all others in last few years maybe apart from their love for amad who is still a hero in s'land. Resigned to him going but would be upset - they also have a high regard for jobe.
16 Nov 2024 20:39:04
Just wanted to say a huge thank you to Ed002. They provided so much knowledge and information about the sport we love. I’ve read this site for years, 10+ and Ed002 insights would have me reading all the club pages plus Euro pages too. They’ll be sadly missed.
Ed002 seldom wrong about anything, full of savage yet hilarious put downs and quite forgiving of the abuse they received.
I’m genuinely gutted. Rest in peace Ed002 and thank you x.
1.) 16 Nov 2024 20:58:11
Just read about this now. Its sad and very shocking and RIP to him as he seemed like a very cultured gentleman! . Really terrible news and my condolences to his family.
2.) 16 Nov 2024 21:19:02
RIP ED002, you will be greatly missed.
24 Jan 2025 08:06:41
100% he’s not winning football matches.
13 Jan 2025 19:10:27
Probably just paper talk but selling Rashford, Garnacho and Casemiro and potentially Malacia, Eriksen and Antony.
Would be a huge PSR boost and allow Amorim to make significant changes.
20 Dec 2024 18:58:32
Nice story Shawthing. some parallels with me.
I took my wife, we where stood in the Stretford End Upper all match. She kept asking when we sit down ?
She didn’t come to the Irish bar…
Surprised she came tbf as her previous match was Moyes Fulham….
17 Dec 2024 21:22:26
Sad I was there when he scored 2 on EPL debut against Arsenal. I remember him scoring against City in an Irish pub in Fueteventura and leaving Demichelis for dead.
Unfortunately over the last few seasons it’s not worked out for him.
Wish him the best.
15 Dec 2024 17:21:55
Team is the same as what leaked.
Seems apparent there’s disgruntled players.
Rashford and Garnacho left out. Coincidentally.
19 Apr 2025 16:50:07
I agree on both points. He was a bad signing.
However he was as you say excellent in his first season, particularly up to Christmas. Last season and most of this season he’s been awful. The exception being he’s been consistently good in Europe.
I didn’t expect to be so impressed by his passing and threat from the air.
I think Casemiro and Ugarte are a good pair. Someone like Wharton coming in alongside Ugarte would be a good replacement, what do you think?
{Ed025's Note - im not convinced by Ugarte either to be honest UR, very run of the mill player for me mate who i thought would be a good purchase, maybe with better players along side him he could do a job but i dont know..
18 Apr 2025 14:40:57
Not to be to Keane like but it was a quarter final in the europa league.
It was a good game but counts for nothing if there’s no cup at the end. Sorry to be the voice of realism.
18 Apr 2025 11:31:04
Totally agree.
18 Apr 2025 11:27:09
The only way last night gets remembered is if we win Europa.
It was a great game but if we play like that against Athletic or Spurs we’ll get beat.
07 Mar 2025 19:46:52
I like Mainoo but he’s fell off under Amorin.
I’d be reluctant to sell him but £100M could help the club probably more than keeping the player.