06 Jul 2024 14:12:44
Angel and Brino, sitting in a tree
K I S S I N G
First comes love, then comes marriage
Them comes the baby in a baby carriage
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Angel, I agree with you most of the time but when it comes to Bruno, I have a different view.
His stats remain strong, but I think he goes missing regularly and can be anonymous. He's also a whining drama queen, when he's supposed to be leading by example. I see the stats and watch the game, and the 2 things never add up for me.
Now the Bruno who arrived was awesome, what he did in his first season was incredible, but he's not that player any more.
If a huge offer comes in from SA, we should take it, assuming we invest it wisely in rebuilding.
06 Jul 2024 14:29:22
Bit childish but I’ll bite.
Bruno goes missing? Doesn’t lead by example? Well that’s an alternative view.
For me he leaves it all out on the pitch, has led to the best of his ability when other players REFUSED to be captain (confirmed by Ole), and as Angel says he’s our only genuine world class player.
Watching his workrate in the flesh is not what you see on tv. He’s constantly moving players around, tracking back, and giving his all for the team.
He’s also a drama queen you’re right about that, I think that takes the shine off how good he is.
The top clubs will be in for him if he’s available (Bayern confirmed by Ed002), but he’d cost a fortune and only Saudi can afford him. You can bet your bottom dollar that Barcelona and Madrid would take him in a heartbeat if they had the need, and I’m sure Pep would too. I’m not saying those clubs are in for him but he would get in their teams.
06 Jul 2024 15:43:43
Bayern are not interested at a big fee as confirmed by ed002 no big clubs are. This is a good chance to cash in on a player that will not improve over the next couple if years.
Happy for him to stay but I see good opportunities if he leaves.
He will make his own choice for his own reasons.
Perhaps he doesn't want to play in a team that can't compete to win the big trophies. He might as well get paid double in Saudi competing for minor trophies.
If our own fans don't think we can compete even for top 4 then if I was him I'd be leaving too.
06 Jul 2024 16:01:51
That was a bit dramatic AJH ?
Bruno is our only world class player and everything goes through him, his stats over the last 5 years are just incredible, no other word to describe them. Plus he's always been a drama queen, has never bothered me. As long as he performs, which he does. And performs in poor united teams.
A good chance to get rid of a player that won't improve. Your crystal ball has been well off lately Ken, i'd stop looking into it if I were you ?.
06 Jul 2024 16:24:13
Just trying to have a bit of fun Wazza, no offence meant, especially to my buddy angel. It is interesting that we see different things. I see Bruno as a busy fool, here, there, and everywhere, but most of the time not doing a right lot. I'm not saying he's poor, clearly he is a quality player, in the 2021 season he was amazing, perhaps that's why I think he has fallen off, he's a long way from that player.
06 Jul 2024 17:19:19
He might be a sh1thouse, but he's our sh1thouse. Rival fans don't like him, but when he is on form he is very very good. Much of last season he was nowhere near his level.
I would only sell if he is pushing to move. If he is, no idea how we replace him. Not sure mount is that guy - but he could be a good linking player who defends with more disciplin. We would need a leader like MDL added to the team though.
06 Jul 2024 19:16:42
I agree with ajh, if a silly offer was recievd I'd sell him. Think there are better players out there.
06 Jul 2024 19:48:44
He was outstanding in the cup final a few weeks ago.
06 Jul 2024 20:27:03
Angel players don't usually improve as they get older.
His personal stats are good his teams stats are not.
Couthino leaving libel is a good example of how a team can lose its best player but improve as a team.
06 Jul 2024 20:31:22
Name better players attainable to us tom.
06 Jul 2024 20:57:27
If the money that we are offered is enough that we can improve the team by selling and using it to buy it makes sense.
Remember that with accounting as it is, it isn't just £x it frees up it frees up more due to amortisation if it's managed properly.
I love Bruno but understand that if the sale makes sense in the bigger picture because it's best for a United then it should happen if possible.
07 Jul 2024 07:04:42
We all know he is out best player by a mile, for the first 18months of him arriving we were a one man team.
However, he will be 30 this year will need to be replaced in the next few years and if he wants to go, we wish him all the best.
07 Jul 2024 10:56:13
I said a while ago, Bruno is not coordinating within a team tactic, runs around haphazardly, drags us out of shape. Again. Why did we buy Mount to play in Bruno’s position? If a good offer from Saudi comes in for Bruno I think we should consider it.
07 Jul 2024 12:39:12
Red man. I do not see that at all. And I'm sure ETH doesn't see it that way either. It will be a massive mistake to accept a bid, no matter how big.
07 Jul 2024 14:39:00
I don't know who is available angelred.
I think Bruno is over hyped. He's a good player but not getting any younger. He wants a big contract and I think the team would cope without him. If you don't agree that's fine it's your opinion.
We have mason mount who I think would suit the team better if he can stay fit, again just my opinion.
His 2 best games for utd was playing as a false 9, funny how we looked better in midfield without him.
07 Jul 2024 14:47:51
Bruno is our best player by so far its ridiculous. It would be an absolute disaster selling him. Not a player in world football who we could replace him with imo.
07 Jul 2024 14:57:07
I'll accept your first line Tom. Cheers ?.
07 Jul 2024 15:19:18
Be utter madness to sell Bruno, why on earth would utd even think about selling their best player. which he is and has been for years. only if he wants to move do you think about selling.
07 Jul 2024 16:46:29
I think Utd aren't going to hang onto any player who wants to leave. In his televised interview he said he'd stay if Utd wanted him and I suspect most managers would.
But if he or Rash in particular hand a request in I doubt Utd will refuse, it's time to get back to getting players who are gagging to be here. Admittedly because of where we are these tend to be the younger emerging players which suits me fine.
07 Jul 2024 17:48:43
I'd move him on. He gives the ball away far too much and conceeds fouls I dangerous areas.
If you think he is utds beat player then that is just a reflection on the rest of the squad.
07 Jul 2024 18:06:52
Angel and Bruno were in the closet making babies and I saw one of the babies and the baby pestered the ref to send me off while the other team scored.
07 Jul 2024 20:42:57
Imo, if Bruno goes it's because we have unsettled him by saying he's available at the right price. At this rate the squad will be weaker at the end of the window rather than stronger. Haven't been impressed by any of the suggested targets so far.
08 Jul 2024 06:52:10
We should also consider whether Bruno has asked for a totally unrealistic wage to sign a new contract and the club are not prepared to give it. To fire a warning shot across his bows is to say they are willing to sell, that may also bring out his attitude to wanting to stay. Does he want to be there enough and we should want that in all our players. Most won’t remember but it is reminiscent of United putting Law on the transfer list. Still I would consider a very large offer, because he can be chaotic tactically and it was only in the free false nine role that we could afford him being so loose.
08 Jul 2024 08:41:25
"We all know he is out best player by a mile"
Do we? I don't.
I'd say Licha is. People keep talking about Bruno being "our only World class player" and the like, but he's not as good as Martinez, and while he's right on the cusp, I don't think Bruno is world class.
His vision and ability to pick out his team-mates' runs is suprisingly poor. His pressing is enthusiastic but poor. I'm pretty sure Refs have gotten so fed up with his histrionics that he's costing us decisions now. He is a really good player, but not so good we can't go on without him.
08 Jul 2024 09:34:18
Thorne, I strongly have to disagree with your post mate.
Bruno isn't as good as Martinez?! Martinez is a centre half who has been injured for more time than he has played. I don't get how this can even be a thought however appreciate each to their own.
He's a leader and probably slightly better than Bruno in that regard but he's also petulant and makes rash decisions when things aren't going his way.
Bruno has been our best player by a country mile since he's been with us and I think that gets forgotten by a lot of us.
Both are important to the team but to say Licha is better, I'm sorry but that is just silly.
08 Jul 2024 11:47:50
BigGiv, Bruno is also petulant and makes rash decisions. I can't agree with you that Bruno has been our best player since he joined us. For that first season or so? Sure, he probably was our best player, but since then? Absolutely not.
He's so overrated. He scores good goals, but his playmaking is really sub-par for a player of his supposed quality, and he doesn't understand how to press. When he sees the pass, his execution is very good, but too often he doesn't see the pass in the first place. In a team based on flashes of individual brilliance under Ole he looked great, but the more the team plays as a unit the less influence he has, and he simply doesn't have the vision to tie the attacking elements together.
He is still a very good player, on the cusp of world class, but he's not quite there, and at his age, he never will be.
I also firmly believe his behaviour is costing us decisions. There's a look on Refs' faces when they see him running up to them, it reminds me of the look my wife has when I'm trying to explain why she's wrong, and you can guess how that always ends up!