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27 Jul 2020 10:12:15
Does jack grealish helping villa stay up make it easier or harder for a deal to be done to sign him up?

DSG

{Ed002's Note - It makes no difference.}


 

 

29 Jun 2019 17:16:16
Rashford close to signing a new deal.

Great news.

DSG

1.) 29 Jun 2019 18:07:02
Yeh fantastic.


2.) 29 Jun 2019 18:58:18
Good news he’s committing to a new deal altho if reported figures are true i'm not sure why he would get 250k a week plus at his age where do you go from there. Another massive contract for a young player that needs to prove he's worth half that. I guess i'm just a old f****r and despise the over paid nature of these young lads who have done nothing within the game. Personally if have said score 30+ goals this season we can talk about a wage increase.


3.) 29 Jun 2019 19:12:09
Who knows if that reported figure is true and who cares how we personally feel about how much he earns. The key point is that its all relative.

If sanchez is on what he's reported to be on then rashford has every claim to earn as much as he can. he's done more for this club in the 10 games he played under lvg than sanchez has ever done for us.

Martial and shaw just got new contracts and i assume a pay rise, rashford deserves it more than them.

Most posters on here in the last third of the season becried the lack of players who put the required effort in and have the desire to improve themselves. Rashford has both those qualities as well as technical abilities that few in his age range can match.


4.) 29 Jun 2019 19:34:56
Shouldn’t be on three times what Wan-Bissaka has paid. He’s equally as unproven over a sustained period of time.


5.) 29 Jun 2019 20:03:17
Great news if true he has every chance of being the focal point of this new young team we are building.


6.) 30 Jun 2019 09:59:16
This is clearly nonsense. It’s all gone to his head and he is holding the club to ransom for £300K a week isn’t he?


 

 

08 Jun 2019 12:13:05
A few reports coming out now that united are getting frustrated and are surprised by the fees involved in signing british young players.

Have they been living under a rock for the past 6 or 16 years?

I completely understand that they have certain valuations for players and if they are quoted over that then they should back away in most circumstances and move on to other targets.

But prices for young british homegrown players have always been at a premium whether its rio ferdiand, andy carroll or kyle walker and i would be baffled if this was surprising them.

DSG

1.) 08 Jun 2019 13:07:43
There’s no doubt a Manchester United tax is added to the value of any player we approach.

Daniel James being the perfect example. We are paying twice the fee Leeds were quoted only four months ago.


2.) 09 Jun 2019 02:52:55
Rooney Rio Andy Carroll sterling Walker

The list goes on homegrown cost a hell of a lot more.


3.) 09 Jun 2019 08:28:29
Except Rooney and Rio were worth every penny for our club!


4.) 09 Jun 2019 09:38:35
Very true Eric. As is Sterling for City.

Imagine what Scholes would be worth today 🤔.


5.) 09 Jun 2019 12:36:56
AT Wazza finally someone who really rates Scholes as high as me, if we had a player like Scholes in our current squad our defense wouldn't be as exposed as it has been the past years, he is what i would call MAESTRO. one of those players that don't get recognize in England but are truly hard to find.


6.) 09 Jun 2019 15:22:58
Remanutd he’s exactly the type of player we need. You see Rashford making so many runs but the ball moves sideways.

I remember a game we were losing, playing badly and Scholes was brought on. It was the end of his career. But he collected the ball four times and each time he passed the ball forward. He was so aggressive with his passing, fast and direct.


 

 

01 Apr 2019 13:13:09
So duncan castles reporting that herrera is off to psg.

Does anyone agree to the clubs stance not to fold to his wage demands?

Who does that leave as our second best midfielder at the club? Michael carrick?

DSG

1.) 01 Apr 2019 13:37:08
I agree with this stance but the club also need to stop giving into demands of someone like Sanchez who's on double what Herrera wants.


2.) 01 Apr 2019 14:11:32
Is that his wages freed up to pay DDG what he wants?


3.) 01 Apr 2019 14:33:48
I agree. We need to commit 30m plus for a squad player approaching 30. Nah. Rock on free up the wages for a better player.


4.) 01 Apr 2019 15:03:43
Ken why let herrera go the likely scenario would be we would have to spend minimum of 50m to replace him with inflated fees. Plus wages on top there's plenty on more than him that should be shown the door before him. can't fathom how jones got a new deal and herrera didnt.


5.) 01 Apr 2019 15:12:01
why are we giving the likes of Jones and young new contracts but herrera letting go.

ddg still has another season but still its a joke. you keep your best players.

other than arsenal who have also a reputation to losing players this doesn't happen anywhere else.


6.) 01 Apr 2019 15:32:14
We aren't 'letting him go', this great player who everyone loves and loves the club is holding us to ransom over his wages, he isn't half as good as he thinks he is and could easily be replaced. Thanks for the good times Ander, but you are never going to be in a premier league winning first team.


7.) 01 Apr 2019 16:07:54
so is DDG holding us to ransom?


8.) 01 Apr 2019 16:10:47
I'm in two minds. Its a lot of money for a 30 year old that could be better spent. But then its another signing we'll need to make to replace him which maybe lessons what we can commit on other signings.


9.) 01 Apr 2019 16:29:40
Reports saying Utd won't offer more than £170k pw. Probably £50k too much being offered already for me.


10.) 01 Apr 2019 16:51:19
I agree with the club on this one. 170k a week sounds more than reasonable. If ander wants more that's his perogative.


11.) 01 Apr 2019 17:56:24
Bolger,

Yes, but he’s our best player and we would struggle to replace him with someone of the same quality so he will probably get what he wants, I don’t think anyone is under any illusion that De Gea hasn’t already tried to leave once, he’s just bloody good so we let him off.


12.) 01 Apr 2019 20:23:13
Why would PSG want him Rabiot cannot make there side he’s about 2 levels above Herrera,


13.) 01 Apr 2019 20:31:26
Jamie79
They maybe see something you don't?


14.) 02 Apr 2019 04:32:02
So just out of curiosity, who would you guys replace Herrera with who is an improvement and who also will cost less than 200k a week in wages?


15.) 02 Apr 2019 05:51:26
Personally I would break the bank for Saul Niguez.
He can take the midfield as well as the whole team to next level.
He can pick intricate forward passes like Pogba. Does excellent work off the ball.
And he is just 24. Well worth the investment.

{Ed001's Note - and he can cover almost every position on the pitch as well. I do not understand why no one has already broken the bank for him. It is not like he has just emerged, I can remember suggesting him as one of the players I would want Liverpool to sign when he was 17. So he has been about and looking top class for a long time.}


16.) 02 Apr 2019 06:36:31
Agree Ed. Not many consistent top quality midfielders around.
There are rumours linking him to City which is a real worry.


17.) 02 Apr 2019 13:34:18
Herrera is one of our better players, and there is no chance we will get a replacement of the same standard on less than 200k wages plus a hefty transfer fee. We can't afford to not give him the contract he wants, as doing so will cost us more than giving it to him.


18.) 02 Apr 2019 13:42:40
There is no point in giving 200k wage for a 29 year old who can pass only side ways. He may not even be a regular in the coming seasons.
And then we have problems with salary cap out.
So overall, it is a huge risk.
If we continue this, Next Smalling will ask for 200k a week contract.


19.) 02 Apr 2019 23:31:43
Who know. people who worry for extra expenses needed to replace him, need to think may be if Rabiot coming our way in free. in our wage budget? None of us know. But if Ole is taking this decision, then he must have calculated this. Now we can expect 2 new CM to come in.


20.) 02 Apr 2019 23:40:58
Completely agreed ed1. The worst decision Ed wayward has made in my view is cancelling the transfer plans in the winter window before LVGs sacking. We were meant to have a meeting with Atleti with regards to Saul. For me Saul is the best all round CM in the world. If not for Kante, Saul would be the best midfielder IMO.


 

 

20 Jan 2019 16:47:59
According to report, we have triggered the year option in darmians contract, he will go to juventus on a lon with an option to buy.

I assume that valencia has enough fitness to see this season out then leave on a free in the summer.

Young will probably get an extension leaving dalot shaw young and fosu mensah as our full back options next season unless we bring someone in.

DSG

1.) 20 Jan 2019 18:02:33
Tfm will not be in our squad next season as a full back option. If ww don't bring a full back in i expect the 4 would be mitchell shaw young and dalot.
Interesting that he cose to play dalot on the left yesterday when shaw fell ill instead of young.
It shows that both young and shaw can play either side adequately.


2.) 20 Jan 2019 21:59:14
Not good enough options in my opinion. Shaw is playing better, I'm happy with him as my first choice atm, with young and depot as cover. We need a top class rb because we have nothing down the right. I like depot but not sure if he's ready to be first choice just yet. We could do with someone who's about 29-30 in their prime for a couple of years till dalot is ready. That and a top centre back and we'd have a good foundation to build from.


3.) 21 Jan 2019 06:06:29
Shaw and young for LB. Dalot and a top right back at peak for RB.


4.) 21 Jan 2019 06:26:16
Wan Bissaka.


5.) 21 Jan 2019 11:38:07
I would like to see us go for Milenkovic to play at RB with Dalot as cover. He's young but can also play central. I would also love us to see if Mbappe can be prised away from PSG given their financial woes. Imagine a front three of Rashford, Martial and Mbappe!


6.) 21 Jan 2019 12:29:49
I woyld rather we brought in a RB and a LB. Mitchell is not good enough - offer money for Kieran Tierney and that's LB sorted, he has the potential to be the best LB in UK. At RB we need someone who is ready to go, Perreira would be my choice but I am sure there are plenty options.


 

 

 

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21 Sep 2020 12:21:52
Two questions:

1.) what are the actual expectations for the season? probably because we only ended the previous season last month and had a non existent pre season this wasnt discussed much.

We came third last season with 66 points, realistically we are not going to get near liverpool and city, so coming third with a higher points total is a realistic mark of improvement.

2.) Is Scott Mctominay actually a holding midfielder? To be honest i have never watched him and thought, yep he's a sitting midfielder. he's always struck me as a box to box midiflelder who is more useful attacking than defending. Not good enough positionally defensively and takes to many touches on the ball to be a dictating sort of midfielder.

DSG

1.) 21 Sep 2020 12:46:47
Get the players in to mount a title challenge or close to top 2 in the final months of the season.
Get to the 1/ 4 finals or better of CL.
Get to Final of FA cup

Any less than this with our expenditure would be a failure.


2.) 21 Sep 2020 12:52:19
Liverpool, City, Spurs, Arsenal, Everton, Chelsea have all improved their first X1.

I honestly don't think we have improved our first XI.
Discouraging window so far.

Liverpool beat us by 30 points and have added a top class midfielder and added strength in depth for their attack.

I just don't see a plan or ambition from the club.

Top 4 would be an achievement with this squad.


3.) 21 Sep 2020 12:55:20
Scott is nowhere near good enough as a box to box, so I'm hoping he can learn the dm role as otherwise I don't see him getting much game time.


4.) 21 Sep 2020 13:05:42
Top 4 has to be the realistic expectation we can't achieve a title challenge anytime soon so becoming a consistent champions league club is a must.


5.) 21 Sep 2020 13:34:38
if things stand as they are, then the expectation is to get 70 points - a little more than last season, but that is what this squad of players will get you in the PL. Yes, our form from the back end of last season was good, but it can't be sustained in a shorter campaign with champions league foot ball to boot. The quality of sides around us has also gone up quite a bit.
Hopefully win a cup along the way as well.


6.) 21 Sep 2020 14:00:55
Expectations of this season could change dramatically depending on transfers.

Realistically it is an improvement on last season. 3rd, 66 points and 3 semifinals. I don't see us finishing above either Liverpool or City so third looks the highest we can realistically finish. However, an improvement on the 66 points total and maybe making it to at least one final would be an improvement.

However if we sign Sancho the expectations will unrealistically be elevated.

As for McTominay, he might with a little moulding become a holding midfielder. His best attributes are his stamina, running power and physicality. Which suit a more box to box role favouring a more defensive role. He does pop up with a few goals mind, so a little freedom wouldn't be a terrible idea with him. I think the thing that let's him down is his passing range which is a little limited. I think he could develop into a top player for us, he has the right mentality. It will come down to two factors. Firstly is what tactics are deployed as he doesn't really fit into a niche midfield role. Secondly, will be his ability to develop other areas of his game.


7.) 21 Sep 2020 14:02:59
Plus 20 points on last season
Cl run to 1/ 4 final
Win a cup
No chance of any of these with our current manager imo.


8.) 21 Sep 2020 14:25:31
i know ken he was such a failure last year in the cups, you can't expect ole with the same team to mount any challenge in any cups.


off with his head.


9.) 21 Sep 2020 14:42:33
No need to kill him bolger just fire him.
What cup did he win again?
We were not in the cl he didn't get us there so 1/ 4 in cl is a huge step up from a failed semi in the EL.
So yes nothing like last year big improvements reqired. I don't think he is capable.


10.) 21 Sep 2020 14:58:00
Bolger semi final defeats are failure. Or should we book an open top bus to parade our failed semi final trophies.


11.) 21 Sep 2020 15:33:14
We lost a game its hysterical 🤣 😂.


12.) 21 Sep 2020 15:57:25
1 step closer to the bullet. then we can become hysterical.

{Ed047's Note - you gotta love jred! 🤣


13.) 21 Sep 2020 16:07:28
Its absolutely comedy gold, nothing to do with footy really which is why most the eds and most the established posters are keeping out of it .
But a funny read non the less 😂.

{Ed047's Note - “nothing to do with footy” and “established posters”

Brilliant, right there is your comedy gold! 😂😂😂


14.) 21 Sep 2020 16:43:09
We would improve our first eleven immediately just by dropping Pogba and playing VDB in his place.


15.) 21 Sep 2020 16:54:38
Ed 100% its just ranting and stirring .

{Ed047's Note - where is the actual ranting and stirring jred, they are talking about their expectations, giving an opinion and answer to a genuine question.

You and Bolger then came in and stirred the pot. Because you didn’t like their answers. 🤷‍♂️


16.) 21 Sep 2020 17:16:04
ed47 😂😂of course because you agree with it its not a ranta, and of course your not stirring 😇😇😂😂
My personal favourite is just above, we will never finish in the top 4 with this manager 😂😂. We have just finished 3rd .
Honestly you managed to get rid of Deano yesterday you have more or less got rid of gds .
Who's next? I think you forget that some of these lads supported the site when it was struggling, donated for ed1 when he had issues.

{Ed047's Note - how did I manage to get rid of Deano and GDS, seriously jred you need to give your head a shake.

This is a banter site, if grown up human beings can’t cope with banter on a banter site, or people with a differing opinion about a club they all support, what on earth are they even doing here.

Do you want a separate page for everything is cool and groovy at United 🤷‍♂️

I don’t block or stop their posts, I don’t stop them having an opinion which is what you are trying to point out are rants to dig yourself out of talking yet another load of rubbish. 🤦‍♂️


17.) 21 Sep 2020 17:49:26
That's true bilko.


18.) 21 Sep 2020 17:50:45
Breath of fresh air some of the honesty. 😂😂😂.


19.) 21 Sep 2020 17:58:04
Ed047 don't rise it mate. Honestly not worth it.

At least some of us can actually have conversations about it all.

{Ed047's Note - i know mate, he just makes me laugh 🤦‍♂️🤣


20.) 21 Sep 2020 18:06:05
ed47 you get upset when people call you out,
It is just a banter site but some of these lads put there hands in their pocket to support it .
You give it out then hide behind i haven't done anything .
Your just a fan from another team on the wind up on the united page.

{Ed047's Note - seriously give it up you are now just becoming embarrassing trying to validate yourself because you contributed to the site.

This isn’t the only page on this site, you and a few others aren’t the only posters. 🤦‍♂️


21.) 21 Sep 2020 18:09:00
Think we can all ‘cope with banter’, that’s usually from posters on the site though not from editors who as I’ve said before used to be professional and respectful.

When it’s one person maybe it’s them that can’t take it, when you’re pissing off regular posters every single day perhaps need to have a look at your way of editing the site and have a think. I thought it was just me at first and I was being an idiot but when I read it back I realised what was happening. It’s a shame.

I’d suggest if you want to banter join the site as a poster and get involved, I think people just expect more respect from the editors as that’s what we have always had. I’m not upset or particularly bothered, just makes the experience of the site a bit strange when editors are making you feel stupid.

{Ed047's Note - if you want a page full of yes men and Ed’s that agree with you no matter what they see in plain site then genuinely it’s clearly not for you.

People sadly don’t have the same opinion as you no matter how much you want to give it to them.

When you read it back did you take the blinkers off or keep them firmly strapped on.

I say what I see, I certainly have no concerns whether you like that or not.


22.) 21 Sep 2020 18:11:03
I had a look on the arsenal site, ed47 your all about given arteta time waiting and seeing how the transfer window pans .
Then you come on here and just go fishing . You must have something better to do.

{Ed047's Note - because Arteta looks to have a plan and a system, I didn’t give Emery the time of day because he had neither much the same as OGS.

You really are getting desperately embarrassing now fella.


23.) 21 Sep 2020 19:16:17
ed47 not really infact I think your embarrassing your self trying to defend arteta who managed arsenal to was it 8th last season? Why taking every opportunity to call out a manager who finished 3rd .
And why? Because "arteta looks to have a plan"
Arteta has very little managerial experience infact I would say its difficult to make an argument for one over the other in regards to him and ole.
But your such a biased arsenal fan you can't even see that's what your doing .
Your are trying to defend a manager who finished 8th over a manager who finished 3rd .
A lot of what you are saying about ole could be directed at arteta . And yet you are constantly calling other people blinkered 😂
Gds makes a good point imo as did Deano and Singh yesterday, infact Singh summed it up very well. No other ed looks to cause such a toxic atmosphere.

{Ed047's Note - OMG 🤣🤣🤣 I’m sure you’ll be in Aus any day now.


24.) 21 Sep 2020 19:18:51
Ed47

"This isn’t the only page on this site, you and a few others aren’t the only posters"

No its not, and no they aren't but that doesn't change the fact that they put there hands in their pockets . And that's your attitude and your thanks?

{Ed047's Note - jred you have got to stop embarrassing yourself, do you think I myself didn’t contribute.

I don’t want thanks for it or some kind of justification or believe it makes me more credible than anyone else.

If I’ve upset 4 people across this site because I think OGS isn’t good enough for you, that you should go all out to get Nagelsmann, that you should sell Pogba, that Upamecano should be a priority, that spending a fortune on Sancho is a waste, that Shaw is poor or Bruno is great then I that is a decision for you and them fella, I truly don’t care.

But don’t waste my time and yours trying to make your opinion and those others the only credible ones on this site or make lame excuses that I’m an Arsenal fan so I must want pain and misery on you.


25.) 21 Sep 2020 20:00:48
Seems 47 has the hots for jred.

{Ed047's Note - he’s such fun mate and I’m not made of wood! 🤣🤣


26.) 21 Sep 2020 20:30:48
You’re totally missing the point if you think that’s why 4 people are ‘upset’, it’s more the lack of respect and calling people ‘blinkered’ who disagree with your biased opinion, basically if anyone is positive they are wrong and we are stupid for having an opinion but you continuously say we are out of order for not letting other people have an opinion.

God knows how many others have just not bothered because it’s pointless and you’re just made to feel stupid for disagreeing with someone who doesn’t even support the club but types in red.

Some of the things you say I totally agree with by the way, just the way you treat regular posters is unwarranted imo.

{Ed047's Note - GDS2, you are getting upset and calling me out for the exact things the 4 of you do.

You don’t like anyone having a negative opinion of anything to do with the club but that’s life and you have to accept it, that’s how a lot of United fans feel.

It’s also the manner in which you say it yourself, but you don’t see it, you want to point a finger at me because I don’t agree with your opinion.

If you are going to make comments, like you often make, loaded with sarcasm I’m going to repay you with the same and then you’ll moan about it.

I’ve never stopped you Deano or Singh posting unless It was like the time you told me to F Off, then obviously I’m going to give you some of the same.

So don’t try and paint yourselves as all innocent and hurt because you are not.

Ed01 has also put you straight a number of times because of your attitude.


27.) 21 Sep 2020 20:32:37
The first half of last year was really bad. Then when we bought Bruno things changed and improved. We played better football (although not very good for me and clearly not proactive enough) after the "Bruno effect" and the excuse for first half of the season was that we hadnt Bruno from the start and Pogba was injured.
Now we have Bruno, Pogba back and another AM in VDB. So the expectations must be high . Personally i would like to see a clearly good team, dominating games who seems ready to compete the year after. I want a team as good as her players are and even better. that's what a manager has to do.


28.) 21 Sep 2020 22:17:14
Ed,

For the final time, I am not hurt or upset, I am explaining the issue, I appreciate you’re never going to change and have made your mind up that everyone else is wrong about you and you aren’t doing anything wrong, not much anyone can do if that’s the case.

Ed001 put me straight a couple of times about 4 years ago, I get on with and appreciate Ed001 and everything he does for the site, like jred said, that’s why we put money in to save it, we just expect a bit of respect. There is enough negativity and people arguing on twitter and other social media, people come on here to chat to like minded united fans and have banter.

I fully understand how United fans feel, I feel the same as a lot of them, an Arsenal fan coming on here telling us how rubbish we are adds nothing imo. Just my opinion, which I’m allowed as you keep saying.

{Ed047's Note - There are so many things wrong at United but you can’t hack that and as you have done from day one, endeavoured to make out that anyone with that opinion is wrong, we all know it, you know it.

You get on with the select few who have the same opinion as you, the way you’ve spoken to posters was what earned you being chewed out by Ed01 so please don’t paint this poor innocent me crap.

I wasn’t the child that told you to F Off either, was I. All because you didn’t like a dose of what you hand out yourself.


29.) 22 Sep 2020 01:01:52
There's something seriously wrong when one of the most optimistic, civil posters on here, is deemed to have an attitude problem. You're obviously not in the cool gang, GDS.


 

 

14 Sep 2020 16:13:07
Rumoured alternatives for sancho are perisic, bale and douglas costa.

Do any of these player appeal to you or is it more of a none of the above option if you had to choose?

DSG

1.) 14 Sep 2020 16:52:07
None of the above, have Greenwood as a starter and shift Rashford to the right (he was a right winger to begin with) when needed, with James playing left in that case. Then maybe see if we bring in that young Stefanovic as competition to Greenwood for next season. And in this situation, bringing in a back-up forward would be a must, even if it is just Josh King.


2.) 14 Sep 2020 17:25:12
None of them, Let Greenwood be the starter there with James and Rashford as subs on that position when needed.


3.) 14 Sep 2020 17:56:05
I genuinely believe we’d be better off with Bale.
Getting him on loan should also allow us to then sign Reguilon and a CB permanently.


4.) 14 Sep 2020 18:43:12
I don’t want us to sign Bale, but if we did it’s possible that he would come to us with a major point to prove which could work in our favour. But that’s me being very optimistic. Can’t see it happening and I think that’s for the better.


5.) 14 Sep 2020 18:51:17
Getting Bale on loan, so that he can rotate with Greenwood is a great idea.

It would free up funds to get Reguilon and a top CB like Upamecano or Giminez.

Go for Sancho next year (Only if the club cannot afford under the current financial climate)


6.) 14 Sep 2020 20:06:59
None of the above, Persic is a left winger, Costa picks up too many injuries, and Bale just hasn't shown any desire to be a footballer in several years.

None are really suitable, and I don't think the club should look at short term options. Signing a player until Sancho is available next season is a terrible way forward. You either go for a different target, be that someone at a similar level or someone with potential and is a little rougher around the edges. Or you promote from within or adjust how the team plays.

I think whatever happens with Sancho we will need another body with class in that position. None of Lingard, Mata or Andreas Pereira are good enough. We can't play the whole season with only Rashford, Martial, Greenwood and James as forward options (Ighalo is only here until January) .

We could look to play a midfield diamond shape with a split front two, then those 4 would be sufficient.

However, if Sancho isn't a possibility I think we should look at other options, be that Brooks, Neres, Mbeumo, Stengs or Tsygankov or anyone else. They should be young progressive players who could become a top play.


7.) 14 Sep 2020 20:28:53
Perisic for me.

We do need another wide player. The drop off to James and Mata is too big.


8.) 14 Sep 2020 20:48:29
Bale in a heartbeat.


 

 

07 Sep 2020 13:38:09
Greenwood kicked out of the england squad for breaching C.V. 19 quarantine rules.

What should the club do with him?

Given the furore and hysteria in march and april over project restart and the suggestion that we would have to live with the virus being ridiculed as wanting people to die.

Should he be sacked?

DSG

1.) 07 Sep 2020 13:50:19
Wow, that escalated quickly.


2.) 07 Sep 2020 13:57:52
He has been a silly boy by the looks of it, on his first England call up as well .


3.) 07 Sep 2020 14:00:12
Should clarify that i'm not calling for him to be sacked, but just emphasising the point that the response to this virus was an overreaction and the level of debate was very immature.

Just extending the logic that with this supremely deadly virus still around, should a draconian punishment be handed out to greenwood by the club for potentially endangering peoples lives?


4.) 07 Sep 2020 14:07:53
The response to the virus was an over reaction? How?


5.) 07 Sep 2020 14:10:52
Dont know all the facts yet-but on the face of it he has been a silly lad. More bad publicity. if true.
Take his age into consideration, Grealish didn't get sacked, nor the spurs players, or Man City players. needs his arse kicking by Ole - hopefully someone like Rashford -Matic -Mata can sit him down and try and spell it out to him how he has to conduct himself. -Maguire will get a bit of stick as well from the tabloids again. bad role model etc etc .

{Ed002's Note - They won't be able to sit him down for a couple of weeks.}


6.) 07 Sep 2020 14:14:30
Should we not wait until details emerge?
Doesn't look good either way for him it can't be that difficult to follow the squad rules.
It beggars belief that 2 young lads trying to make their way in the game would be so stupid.


7.) 07 Sep 2020 14:15:46
Not sure what he has actually done, also Phil Foden as well sent home. Talks of sacking totally ridiculous IMO.

Personal opinion is Internationals shouldn't be being played anyway at the present moment.


8.) 07 Sep 2020 14:17:14
Sacked? Seriously?

An 18 year old has made a stupid mistake which he will rightly be punished for by the FA. I would imagine United will fine him because he has brought shame on the club. Sacked, no.

It does not appear the virus is a “supremely deadly one” now, given hospital admissions and deaths but they are in no position to put anyone at risk. Jofra Archer broke the cricket bubble and was fined, I expect they will have the same and will learn from it.


9.) 07 Sep 2020 14:20:38
The kid is just following in the steps of the previous no 11's. Its the utd way dsg, best, giggs, martial and now Greenwood.


10.) 07 Sep 2020 14:36:33
I'd love to be a fly on the wall when our club captain has a talk with him about how he should be representing the club when he's away🤣.


11.) 07 Sep 2020 14:31:01
personally I think....deleted

{Ed047's Note - personally I think you are an absolute bellend! 🤦‍♂️


12.) 07 Sep 2020 14:35:29
He's been a silly boy, and he will have to learn from it. At 18 on his first international call up, the club will talk with him. He will likely miss the first game of the season now. Most young players do something stupid when they start getting fame and money. If this is the worst of it and he learns then it's not the worst thing in the world.


13.) 07 Sep 2020 14:38:23
Scoobydog.

I think the imposition by the uk government of mass lockdowns/ house arrest/ quarantines of both healthy and unhealthy people, considerable economic damage, huge disruption in childrens education, reduction in cancer screenings/ diagnoses and a statistical data querk of there being excess deaths at home coinciding with the governments “stay at home, protect the nhs” slogan was a massive overreaction and completely disproportionate to the real threat that c. v. 19 virus posed.

Again you may think that all of this was necessary to combat the virus, that is certainly a legitimate point of view but by extending that logic surely mason greenwood has been a very naughty boy and endangered peoples lives by breaching c. v. 19 secure protocols and a draconian punishment is in order.


14.) 07 Sep 2020 14:53:17
47,

Hope you aren’t abusing posters again, dear me.

DSG,

I think you’re bringing your opinions on C.V. 19 on to this forum which aren’t really needed, get that enough all over social media, and no, he won’t be sacked.

{Ed047's Note - I don’t imagine you’ll ever grow up son 🤦‍♂️


15.) 07 Sep 2020 14:54:30
All a bit early yet to get a handle on it . Southgate saying they didn't interact with any other squad members. only came too light this morning so not allowed to mix at breakfast, immediate action taken both sent home separately. asked if girls were in hotel Southgate said he hadn't got the facts but seems any contact wasn't around the hotel but outside of it . and he wasn't getting into any of that for now. fair enough.


16.) 07 Sep 2020 15:14:00
I hate all this C.V. 19 bull. We are allowed to sit within 1 meter of each other in a bar or restaurant wear a mask in a ship, walk past each other in the street, not go to stadiums. It's all too confusing.


17.) 07 Sep 2020 15:22:27
I don’t think the club really need to do anything. Being sent home after your first international call up is a much heftier punishment than anything the club is able to hand out. Hopefully he is able to learn from this.


18.) 07 Sep 2020 15:26:59
DSG I wonder if your opinion would be the same had you lost family members to CV? Given the world was pretty much locked down and some countries even now are increasing restrictions again on the back of rising R numbers doesn’t suggest an over reaction to me. But hey ho, some still believe the earth is flat. Go figure.


19.) 07 Sep 2020 16:06:39
Would love to know what Danno said 😂😂😂.


20.) 07 Sep 2020 16:08:43
47,

Haha there you go again, my post was supposed to be tongue in cheek. Son? 😂😂.

{Ed047's Note - so was mine 🤷‍♂️🤣


21.) 07 Sep 2020 16:10:02
FA have sent both home.
Both the boys should and must learn from the incident.


22.) 07 Sep 2020 15:54:38
Scoobydog, its a fair point but my gran did just pass away last week, she didn't die of CV but i don't agree that her death was any way less significant because it doesn't have CV on her deatb certificate, does that give my argument any more validity?

No because that would be a juvenile way of debating as is conflating the questioning of the severity of the C. V 19 lockdowns with flat earth theory. No one is saying the virus doesn't exist but rather are the restrictions in place proportionate to the threat from the virus.

The fact that countries are increasing restrictions again further emphasises my point that the response to the virus has been out of proportion.


23.) 07 Sep 2020 16:44:01
Like playing chess with a pigeon 🙄
Back to football.


24.) 07 Sep 2020 18:03:43
He's just a young lad, we were all chasing skirt at that age, it's just youthful exuberance, give the young lad a break, the same with Fodden.


25.) 07 Sep 2020 18:25:37
How does that logic work DSG?

Countries who imposed the same restrictions we did are now realising that they didn't go far enough, and you think that proves the initial response was an overreaction?

Logic suggests the opposite, that we underreacted.

{Ed047's Note - maybe DSG could volunteer to spend a week helping out in a COVID-19 ward.

Him and Danno.


26.) 07 Sep 2020 18:29:23
What was an 18 year old lad thinking going to meet up with some Icelandic model in a hotel room.


27.) 07 Sep 2020 19:13:17
Sacked 🤣🤣🤣.


28.) 07 Sep 2020 19:48:48
Thorne

Countries who imposed the same restrictions we did, did so earlier, likely too early and are now experiencing further notable cases.

Perhaps the curve is the curve no matter what you do. Countries went further than us, for example France, yet are experiencing notable cases. Sweden didn’t lock down.

We shouldn’t try to be experts, it’s a Novel virus with no clear answers. However, this is a football page, let’s talk football.


29.) 07 Sep 2020 20:07:25
I PERSONALLY THINK YOU ARE AN ABSOLUTE. joy Ed047 lol😁😁😁.

{Ed047's Note - the feelings mutual Scholesy! 🤣😉


30.) 07 Sep 2020 22:39:27
Sweden hasn't done too bad.
Safe cars too.
I'm with DSG.


31.) 08 Sep 2020 00:32:02
magicsy come and tell me that when you have to watch a family member die on video link fighting to breath because you can not be there. like ed47 said go and work on the C.V. hospitals and then tell me your with dsg.


32.) 08 Sep 2020 06:38:18
I'm with dazw.


33.) 08 Sep 2020 07:45:15
What a shame! It's his first call up and it should have been a time for immense pride. I feel sorry for everyone concerned. I did innumerable stupid things when I was young so I'm not going to judge. Hopefully he learns from it and makes better decisions in future.


34.) 08 Sep 2020 08:01:37
He didn’t break the law, just FA rules.


 

 

21 Aug 2020 10:36:04
Harry Maguire arrested in greece? If true not the best look for the club captain.

DSG

1.) 21 Aug 2020 11:09:07
Apparently there were 3 or 4 involved, they all managed to run away from the police except Harry, . he wasn't quick enough.


2.) 21 Aug 2020 11:17:59
Summers turning into a farce at all levels.


3.) 21 Aug 2020 11:19:39
I’d doubt he will keep the armband after.


4.) 21 Aug 2020 11:02:17
Someone told him he needs to be more like keane and cantona this was the easiest way he could think of to emulate them.


5.) 21 Aug 2020 11:03:36
if its true he should be stripped of the captaincy and fined

what a great example to set representing the club.


6.) 21 Aug 2020 11:39:16
Unfortunate, like his defending he was in the wrong place at the wrong time.


7.) 21 Aug 2020 11:44:05
Fancy taking your fiancé and two infant children on holiday and getting arrested for suspected assault. What kind of role model is he to his kids; let alone the younger players at the club and the millions of young fans watching him play?

The club should have already stripped him of the captaincy, but I wouldn’t be surprised if nothing is done. Those at the top of our club seem to be just as morally bankrupt as Harry himself.


8.) 21 Aug 2020 11:45:15
Yes banish him to hell immediately 😂.


9.) 21 Aug 2020 11:46:22
Lawyers will use footage of his defending against sevilla that he has no awareness of his surroundings and couldn't react quick enough to be involved in a fight.


10.) 21 Aug 2020 11:54:51
Agreed it’s a bad example to set regardless Of whether he instigated the fight or not ( more info soon I’m sure) Apparently if you have that opinion though your a negative 12 Year old who knows nothing. or so the clever folks on twitter say. Didn’t know fighting was so socially acceptable? 🤷‍♂️ Big headache for ole now though as he will want to set an example but not completely shatter maguires confidence.


11.) 21 Aug 2020 12:16:55
Guilty until proven innocent.


12.) 21 Aug 2020 12:24:07
or how about we wait until the details are out before getting rope out.


13.) 21 Aug 2020 12:38:31
Radical suggestion Wiggy 😂.

{Ed004's Note - we currently have more arrests than summer signings...}


14.) 21 Aug 2020 12:48:51
By the sounds of it he made his best headed shot on target all season 😂.


15.) 21 Aug 2020 12:53:55
Do they have kangaroo courts in Greece, has he been found guilty of something? Wait and see what happens before making judgments.


16.) 21 Aug 2020 12:55:25
You should be part of his defense team jred.


17.) 21 Aug 2020 12:56:16
Don't get all the fuss, mixed up in something, all been there i'm sure, not really bothered by it.


18.) 21 Aug 2020 12:58:45
Trial by media these days unfortunately and you know it’s going to be made a huge thing of regardless of the circumstances. I was on lunch there and it was the main headline on the Lunctime ITV News 🤷‍♂️.


19.) 21 Aug 2020 13:02:05
Exactly WRD, nobody knows what happened. He could've been trying to break something up for all we know.


20.) 21 Aug 2020 13:06:58
Here in Greece they are saying that he tryed to avoid the arrest and he hit policemen. Ofcourse we must wait and see.


21.) 21 Aug 2020 13:15:07
Trial by twitter and forum, already guilty, throw away the key 🤦🏼‍♂️.


22.) 21 Aug 2020 13:15:53
Just wish he showed as much passion on the field.


23.) 21 Aug 2020 13:19:07
All been there Welsh? I've never been arrested i would think few on this site have.
Let's see why he was arrested begore slamming him.
As i said above plenty of united captains have been arrested. Keane cantona Rooney to name just 3.
Its not a good thing but he may have had nothing to do with it.
I do feel sorry for the 64 year old Greek police woman who had to chase and catch him in her high heels. 😂.


24.) 21 Aug 2020 13:51:04
A Greek police official is quoted as saying he verbally abused and physically struck police officers and will be taken to state prosecutor to be charged with aggravated assault. I’m know legal expert but that doesn’t sound good. anyone know what kind of punishment he could get if this is true?


25.) 21 Aug 2020 13:51:14
Ken, well we've all been involved in scuffles and that in life, maybe its just the mean streets of Wrexham ha. I agree, let's see what it is, tnf Angel, exactly, could have been an innocent dragged into it, let's be fair he hardly seems the type to be starting fost fights but not bothered really if he's been in a fight.


26.) 21 Aug 2020 13:54:03
A police official apparently said he resisted arrest and hit a cop, seems more than just rumours. Hopefully it means Bruno gets the armband.


27.) 21 Aug 2020 14:03:33
Ahhh the other day of being told he sets an example outside the pitch and plans get togethers.

Looks like that’s gone out the window too.

Captain Bruno.


28.) 21 Aug 2020 14:09:00
Angle looks like I won't be the only one on it.
Nice to get a mention tho, if a bit creepy.


29.) 21 Aug 2020 14:29:14
Didn't John Terry feature in the news every other week? Didn't hamper his prospects as Chelsea's greatest ever captain.
For me this area has been lacking at Utd for so long. There is no vocal player on the pitch to motivate or berate others. Maguire is by far the only one who comes even close.


30.) 21 Aug 2020 14:33:37
I get you Welsh its all roses and rainbows over here😂
Lets wait and see if there are charges and convictions before we jump on him.
Obviously it's not ideal and if he has done wrong then firstly he'll have to face the music from the greek authorities probably a fine. If he has not been involved he will be fine.
Guilty or innocent i'm sure the club will be supporting him at the moment and there will be lots of time for the club to decide if they need to take internal action of any kind.


31.) 21 Aug 2020 16:06:34
Might be a bit alien to you jerd but I was only joking.

I haven't started saying you have multiple accounts yet, that'd be a bit creepy.


32.) 21 Aug 2020 16:08:00
Ken, could be a whole load of nothing. I think he is a good bloke so I'm sure he will be fine. If not, I'm sure he will learn from any mistakes made.

Sorry to reply to you by name, don't want you thinking it's creepy or anything 😂😂.


33.) 21 Aug 2020 17:13:23
I'm sleeping with one eye open angel😂.


34.) 21 Aug 2020 17:44:13
I guess I am in for double trouble from Angel and Ken after some name checking 🤣.

{Ed047's Note - any bad mouthing of ken will be result in a ban Welsh!


35.) 21 Aug 2020 19:30:46
Don't know whether it's true, but the rumour my Greek gaming buddies have been hearing is that he was recognized and the fight started deliberately. Apparently it was one of the cops who got rough, not Maguire or any of his party, the cops turned up, saw English holiday makers and assumed they were the instigators.

Might be utter BS, but that's what I have heard.


36.) 21 Aug 2020 19:58:28
Your my hero😂 047.

{Ed047's Note - I’ve always got your back mate! 🤣🤣


37.) 21 Aug 2020 23:40:26
These Arsenal fans seem to have a s oft spot for you ken!


38.) 22 Aug 2020 00:05:26
Working class lad with money. Guilty!


 

 

17 Aug 2020 13:42:10
Season over finally, its been a long one.

A lot of posts about whether ole is the right man going forwards but he's done his job well in my opinion.

If you offered me a 3rd place finish in the league i would have taken it happily at the start of the season. City and liverpool were coming off 100 point and 98 point seasons respectively and to come below them is the best ole could have done realistically.

A lot of talk about attacking reinforcements this summer but i am nowhere near convinced our back 5 are good enough to bridge the gap between us and the top 2. Lindelof and maguire don't work for me as a pair and awb/ shaw/ williams are poor going forwards for modern full backs. It goes without saying how poor de gea has been this season.

DSG

1.) 17 Aug 2020 14:44:41
New cb, LB as back up and am/ cm and rw. I think sancho, vdb is a must.


 

 

 

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22 Sep 2020 13:33:45
Seems like a big risk to have an obligation to buy a player like dembele for such a large amount of money with his injury record.

DSG

 

 

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18 Sep 2020 13:51:59
Would probably still have to sell one of rojo or jones to free up space in the squad for a new cb.

DSG

 

 

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12 Sep 2020 18:19:23
Whos paying 60/ 70 mil for pogba in this market?

Also thiago vdb and bruno would still concern me defensively as much as pogba, vdb and bruno does. Would have to be 2 out off the 3 starting most weeks which isn't a problem as we need squad depth in midfield.

DSG

 

 

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09 Sep 2020 17:03:11
Conflicting reports on the sancho deal.

Some saying (such as romano) that we've agreed personal terms and agents fees and that the fee is the main stumbling block.

Others stating (such as the athletic) that its personal terms and agents fees that are the main stumbling block.

First game of the season is on the 19th, when do the club move on to alternative rw targets if there are even any suitable ones out there.

We got lucky with lockdown and greenwoods fantastic emergence post restart but we desperately need to get in a right winger before the window closes.

DSG

 

 

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03 Sep 2020 21:53:47
Theres an update on dortmunds transfer plans on the european pages, situation remains the same as it has been.

No serious buyers for sancho at the moment, united won't pay the huge sums needed to sign him.

Time to move on alternatives i think, but i'm not sure there are any alternatives that really fit the bill as first team starters, might have to resort to cover for greenwood.

I wouldn't go in for bale, madrid created a problem for themselves by giving him a huge contract a few years ago and not letting him go to china last summer. I don't think its in uniteds interest to solve madrid or barcelonas issues.

DSG

 

 

 

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29 Sep 2020 23:19:36
I agree with the notion that help should be given to the lower league clubs because their only real source of income has ceased due to the C.V. and subsequent response.

But questions have to be asked if we as a country are going to remain in this super frightened state and hyper focused on this virus until a vaccine comes about then are these lower league clubs really viable in the long term?

This is not just a problem for lower league football, the nighttime economy, theatre and arts industry etc should all have their viability questioned if we continue to remain in some sort of lockdown for a considerable amount of time.

DSG

 

 

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28 Sep 2020 21:21:39
Yes i am on the payroll considering i just called the hierarchy useless in this same thread.

🤦🏽‍♂️.

DSG

 

 

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28 Sep 2020 18:01:57
I get your point angelred, i am no fan of the hierarchy and understand the criticism of their uselessness but if there is one window i will cut them some slack, its going to be this one tbh.

DSG

 

 

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28 Sep 2020 16:03:54
I don't know if you missed it, there kind of was a C.V. and mass house arrest/ lockdowns in the last few months which has undoubtedly affected the clubs finances.

I haven't seen the usual mega rich clubs that aren't backed by wealthy billionaires flexing their muscle. Real madrid haven't bought anymore, barcelona are basically having a yard sale for significant minority of their squad.

I still think we will get a left back and forward in before the window closes and that would be a good window given the circumstances.

DSG

 

 

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27 Sep 2020 22:59:20
😂 looks like its pogba turn to kop the unnecessary stick at the minute.

Related to the OP that would a great windo In my opinion.

DSG