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21 Oct 2020 12:56:57
Anyone else notice the difference in how Chelsea are treated by the media, compared to us?

Watching the highlights last night, and the general consensus was it was a very good result for them, and they waxed lyrical about the clean sheet, and how Frank would be very happy.

It was a 0-0 draw at home to Sevilla. Good team, but one you would expect Chelsea to beat at home, with the players they've bought. But no negativity around Frank or the result at all. Everything was cool, and no awkward points raised even in his post-match interview.

I've said all along, I think Frank gets such an easy ride in the media compared to Ole. I know questions would have been asked if that had been Utd dropping 2 points at home. Maybe, being the bigger club it's just to be expected our manager gets more scrutiny (that's one for Jackson if he's reading this 😉)

Be interested to know if other's noticed this, or is it me just being a paranoid wibbler?

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21 Oct 2020 14:03:43
It's definitely the case. Chelsea or Arsenal get a bad result, it's growing pains, Ole gets a bad result and it's the end is nigh.

21 Oct 2020 15:20:03
100% agree, don't see any sack the manager quotes when it comes to Frank.

21 Oct 2020 16:00:58
Very contrasting headlines to when we last played Sevilla in the CL.

Frank is a media darling and all we heard is what an amazing job he did last year and continues to do.

21 Oct 2020 16:21:06
Nou,

Not just the media, are the chelsea fans not willing to give Frank a lot more time than some of our fans are as well despite him not performing as well so far?

21 Oct 2020 16:38:08
We are the biggest club in world in terms of fan base, brand and global appeal.
Therefore, the scrutiny is high and lots of bitterness from rivals.

Lampard had the best transfer window this year compared to any other team in the world. He should be delivering this year.

21 Oct 2020 17:43:23
As long as it's not just me, then. I'll put the tinfoil hat away. I've a couple of Chelsea mates, GDS, and I can honestly say, not one of them have ever said a bad word about Lampard. Some difference 😁.

21 Oct 2020 22:33:15
Pressures of playing and managing chelsea versus Utd are incomparable. Utd are global news everyday. Chelsea are not.

20 Oct 2020 20:52:37
Just waiting for the usual happy brigade to pour scorn on that first half effort. Telles, Mctom, Shaw and Axel were outstanding. If we can keep them quiet there will more in this for us. Also shout out to Degea, he has been solid.

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20 Oct 2020 21:54:40
I’d add a shout out to Fred, really liked his performance today.

20 Oct 2020 22:17:37
Brilliant all round.

18 Oct 2020 18:59:25
Just saw the spurs score there. how the heck did West Ham get a draw out of that game?! I turned off after 20 minutes with spurs 3 up and just checked again with 15 to go and score was the same 🤷‍♂️

This league really is unpredictable and exciting every week.

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18 Oct 2020 19:08:33
I said after the first game it was going to be a strange season, mate, and nothing I've seen since is making me think any different. Every team in this league is capable of getting a result against another. Which is why I think its pointless coming on and ranting/ crying/ lauding/ eulogising after every result. Let it play out, and just enjoy watching your team when you can.

18 Oct 2020 19:38:18
Totally agree. it’s going to be a rollercoaster for sure. With van Dijk out, maybe for the season then I can’t see a clear favourite. Could be the most open league season ever.

18 Oct 2020 21:21:15
It’s not exciting it’s really boring, all these goals just isn’t football apparently, just training games 😂 I’m loving it to be honest, there’s not much else to enjoy in life at the moment so football being unpredictable and crazy is brilliant.

18 Oct 2020 21:47:03
Miss the crowds a lot and miss going to the games, but seems the lack of spectators is making these matches far more entertaining!

18 Oct 2020 22:08:40
Agreed GDS, best start to a prem in years. Spurs will come again, they could have had 5 or 6 another day.

Lanzinis goal today 😳.

18 Oct 2020 22:56:37
Imagine being one of those pundits who tries to predict the results each week. you’ve got no chance 🤣🤣.

19 Oct 2020 00:38:38
Eric,

That’s the main thing I’m missing in life to be honest, going to the games, but when you think how bad some other people have it at the moment it seems a little petty to complain about it, suppose everything is relative to everyone’s situation. Watching these ridiculous games on tv has been fun though I must admit, the amount of times I’ve said oh my god and jumped out of my seat in recent weeks is amazing.

{Ed0666's Note - The quicker they get fans in stadia the better. I’m not sure how the NFL games have fans but soccer in the UK can’t. I mean the CV in the states isn’t less communicable is it? The government in the UK are not covering themselves in any glory let me tell you.

11 Oct 2020 10:08:33
No surprise OGS is hot favourite to be first managerial casualty in the Prem this season (must be nice to be liked) 2/ 1 at some outlets . 😁😁.

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11 Oct 2020 11:44:24
2/ 1? Should be 1/ 10 on.
Sooner the better.

11 Oct 2020 16:26:28
Or 1/ 6?

12 Oct 2020 00:25:09
should of been sacked before hireing him.

12 Oct 2020 07:11:14
Daz, Ole deserved a crack at the job.

He started well, but the amateurs failed to stick to their plan and offered him the role full time.

He has completely transformed the mood in the squad, we actually played well in periods after Mourinho.

He finished 3rd last season and therefore earned his place for this season.

Clearly Ole is not the right man to take us forward, but nobody can dismiss what he’s done. If anything, he’s overachieved given his lack of experience, the squad he took over and the board he works under.

He’s not going to take us any further, but let’s not forget the awful football we were playing, and the mood in and around the club, before he took over.

{Ed025's Note - do you think its any better now wazza?..

12 Oct 2020 08:09:49
Wazza

I wonder if you ask Bruno about the mood around the manager and club, whether the answer would be positive? By all accounts the players know Ole isn’t a top manager, if they don’t think they are going to win the big prizes under him, what do you think that will do for morale? (remembering this is United, not Cardiff)

I agree he isn’t going to take us any further, seems a genuine decent man, but time is up.

12 Oct 2020 22:25:56
By saying Ole transformed the mood is like stealing from church, its so easy. Mourinho throwing players under the bus, complaining about transfers and creating a toxic atmosphere, means that everyone hired after him would transform the mood.
Honeymoon doesn't last forever. So the difficult part is to keep the good mood for a long long time. To do this players must believe in their coach, his methods and see him like a leader and enjoy their football under him. Did Ole did this? I don't think so.

13 Oct 2020 07:54:23
Changed the mood my ass. He has lost this dressing room. Get him out so the team can move forward.

13 Oct 2020 20:49:11
Yea Ken he changed the mood. 100%.

The mood has been much better in the camp for the entirety of Ole’s reign, up until the start of this season.

Again, short memory.

13 Oct 2020 21:55:33
Wazza i agree the mood imoroved initially Christ that would not have been hard. Jose had turned bitter and that was selling flowing through the club.
Our dressing room has been divided for a while now imo. I don't blame this ole or jose for this entirely.
We don'tor have not played as a team for a while. It obvious players are not on the same page there is no cohesion.
There is so much wrong with our club at the moment on most levels. But the thing i care most about is what happens on the pitch. We have a much better squad than 2 years ago. 300m spent on players that were playing well plus the emergence of greenwood and williams and telles and cavaini to come.
How many of our players are producing high energy high quality football every week?
Do you think awb can be better? Any cb pairing better drilled? A more cohesive midfield?
These are the things that can change immediately with what we have.

14 Oct 2020 11:06:04
If we decide not to continue with OGS, who would be your preferred choice?

14 Oct 2020 12:20:27
Agreed Ken and my point was that it’s not as black and white as people are making out.

Fan of carrick Personally i don’t see any point in replacing the current manager because we will just be in the same position in 18 months time. I think Ole’s time is up but for a lot longer than that we’ve needed to see big changes above the Manager’s position. We’ve tried different types on manager and they’ve all failed.

The definition of insanity is to keep doing the same thing, and expect different results.

14 Oct 2020 17:34:00
Couldn't disagree more wazza.
Things will improve on the pitch when ole is fired.
On the pitch is all that concerns me.

14 Oct 2020 20:25:13
Ken you’ve just spoke about a totally different subject in an attempt to disagree.

But now we are talking about something else. Of course performances will improve when a new manager comes in. It happened when Ole replaced Jose too, remember?

14 Oct 2020 21:09:16
Its what I've been speaking about all along wazza.
Lots of problems within the club but no matter what they are what's hastening on the pitch is the biggest problem of all and that's down to ole.

14 Oct 2020 21:21:26
Is it just down to Ole though or is it a culmination of everything?

We’ve seen stale, turgid football under our last 4 managers.

Nobody is disputing that Ole is out of his depth, but every time we change manager it gives those above him a free ride. I feel it will all be happening to somebody else in 18-24 months.

15 Oct 2020 08:02:36
I respectfully disagree wazza.

15 Oct 2020 15:32:04
Wazza, that's because the playing style of the last 4 managers has been stale and turgid. It's not as though any of them played free flowing exciting attacking football before they came to Utd.

15 Oct 2020 20:58:39
Best squad we have had for 8 years under the right coach this squad can compete to win and can be a more cohesive and attack minded unit.

15 Oct 2020 21:49:08
I think we have the best squad for a long time, but no substructure. When we fired Mourinho i wanted Wenger or a manager like him to lay the foundation and make us play like a team. Ole seems like he is a selector rather than a coach. We haven't seen a clear pattern of play, playing like a unit or players know each others moves for years and that is not Glazers fault.
We wanted a manager to build a team but we only took decorators to fix some issues, that's the problem . I think that with a manager like Klop and 2-3 top sighnings we would compete. I know that we say the same with almost every manager but firstly we make the wrong appointment every time and secondly our "top" sighnings are Maguires.

15 Oct 2020 22:57:30
I agree Ken. There is a lot of talent and potential in the squad but it isn't being best used or developed. It all seems directionless.

10 Oct 2020 00:47:10
Just read that Cavani spent his holidays with Di Mario and their partners! Surely he wouldn't have got much positive news about Man U from his travelling partner! He'd never be here just for the money would he because that hasn't happened at our club in the last few years😩😩.

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10 Oct 2020 06:54:45
How come he went with Cavani and not Di Luigi?

10 Oct 2020 10:24:20
I don't think United were in for him at that point so I doubt it ever came up.

10 Oct 2020 16:32:47
He said he spoke to Herrera and Di Maria before moving.

Herrera would have told him how great the club is and DiMaria would have told him how big the wages were.

11 Oct 2020 00:35:25
Mmmm. You’re unemployed, 33, and someone offers you £10m for a years work. Tricky decision this one.

12 Oct 2020 21:09:53
Gee let me think 🤔🤔$$$$.

17 Oct 2020 09:03:47
He also caught CV-19 on that holiday.

09 Oct 2020 06:56:50
The words of Woodward according to press reports from an interview in 2018, confirming that Mourinho didn't get who he wanted. It has probably been the same for Solskjaer this summer.

There are "recruitment experts" who know better than an experienced winner like Mourinho? Unreal.

"It is true that we didn't sign a centre-back in the summer of 2018 and it is true there was a difference of opinion on one or two players between the manager and the recruitment department, Sometimes I have to be one who delivers the 'No', which isn't easy. Our natural tendency is to back the manager in every possible circumstance. But we have to listen to the recruitment experts too. "

It looks like Ole didn't get who he wanted either, he should resign on that basis if he has the guts. Unless he now thinks he is the big manager that others really are. He needs to go immediately anyway, but he should go on his own terms based on not getting the players.

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09 Oct 2020 10:01:40
Red Man, I don't believe Ole should be our coach and I feel we would be best suited by replacing him, however, why should he resign? How many managers do this in relation to transfers? Look at what Sean Dyche is having to deal with at Burnley, that's really not getting the players you need. Jose didn't resign when he didn't get the players, neither did LVG or Moyes so why should Ole be different? The squad is better now than it has been for a few years. Ole's ability to make that squad perform is an entirely different reason for him to resign and ultimately I'm sure he believes he can make the squad perform.

Would you be saying he should resign if we'd just won the league but didn't sign any of the players he wanted just because of the principle of it all? If so, I'm pretty sure Fergie should have gone a few times.

09 Oct 2020 10:05:49
I'm in two minds with this one. On one hand not giving the manager what he needs to be successful means we will struggle. Yet on the other hand letting a manager have free reign over transfers mean you can end up with a disjointed squad that when that manager leaves means you have many players on long term contracts who aren't useful to the next manager.

Neither Mane or Salah where supposedly Klopp's top choices, they were 2nd or 3rd choice options.

Yet they have been fantastic players for Liverpool and Klopp.

The issue we have is there is not clear structure, vision or plan. There is no accountability beyond the manager who clearly doesn't pull all the strings and is being let down by other people at the club and ultimately paying the price for their failures as much as their own.

This is where we need a DoF. Someone who oversees everything from a footballing perspective, someone who understands tactics and the game and who can work with the recruitment team and the manager to find players who fit the club's and the managers profile of player. Thus long term when that manager departs there is a core of players who fit the club ethos and the role of the DoF is then finding a manager who also fits the club ethos.

09 Oct 2020 10:40:30
Ole would never resign because he'd never get a prem job afterwards.

09 Oct 2020 11:01:57
Shappy, all well in good when those in charge of recruitment know what they are doing.

Like Neville said some time ago, who identifies the players? Who is responsible? Did they know better than Jose Mourinho. Not a hope IMO.

It's clear as day that we are need a DOF. But I can't see us hiring one as it would mean those in charge would have to give up certain control they currently enjoy and they will not want to do that.

I know the owners are hands off, they rely on people to run the club and they take advise from others. But surely they are looking at this and saying something isn't right. If it's not down to them to make changes in the hierarchy then who is it down to?

09 Oct 2020 11:34:33
Angel, ultimately I would imagine that it will be Marcel Bout who is considered the "recruitment" expert as he is head of scouting.

How good has he been? Well its hard to tell, as the club have often been buying the 3rd, 4th or 5th choice options.
Why has the club been moving that far down the list? I'd imagine it has something to do with Matt Judge with his hopeless relationship building with key people at other clubs (not answering his phone) and his financial background meaning he is making the decision about which of the targets to go with via a balance sheet rather than from any real footballing knowledge.

Ultimately if the aim is that the first choice options are to get you to first place in the league then you can see where 5th choice options will leave you.

We need a director of football, and a better head of recruitment. Maybe bring in Paul Mitchell from Red Bull international, he did a great job with recruitment at Southampton, Spurs and now with both Red Bull Leipzig and Salzburg.

09 Oct 2020 13:30:51
Blood hell, when do any of us have the perfect working environment of the perfect set of tools to do the job?

Cheshire Red brilliantly explained why the club didn't go all out and pay up the money for our first choice signing.

Agreed that we urgently need a DoF but we also need a better manager.

This is where Solksjaer has to show his worth as manager of Man Utd. We all know the squad is imbalanced and could be better but at the same time there is a lot of talent there.

Solksjaer needs to work out how to best harness and motivate that talent. He needs to improve players and become flexible with his formations and tactics so that it makes the most of what he has.

At the moment he is doing the exact opposite. Players look tired and disinterested, plus nobody has improved since he came in.

The biggest crimes for me though are the talent he is wasting because he doesn't know what to do with it (eg VdB and Mata who both should be spending more time on the pitch) and picking players who are liabilities and/ or out of form (Pogcrap, slabhead) .

None of us (apart from Jred apparently) can identify any clear style of play. Are we a possession team, a pressing team, a play on the break team? After 18 months or so, how can this be?

Also, 4321 has to stop. It's not the right formation for this squad. 433 is a massive improvement because we have lots of players who can play as two no 8s, 3 at the back is a good idea, 2 upfront also works well. Anything but the 4231 Solkjaer insists on using despite all the evidence against it.

I don't know how I could critise the manager any more than this. He gets everything wrong. So just saying that it would be ok if he got his 1st choices doesn't make sense to me.

09 Oct 2020 13:50:48
The player that jose wanted was maguire wasn't it .
Chesirered has some good insight in our current transfer activity on the rumour one , regman, angle i'm surprised you haven't been all over it.

09 Oct 2020 14:43:23
After finishing 3rd last season, Ole has earnt the right to continue this season.

I saw an ESPN article which stated Ole had 4 clear transfer targets this summer and he didn't get even 1.

This is the norm with every manager. Once we qualify for CL, there seems to be a lack of ambition.

09 Oct 2020 15:11:30
Did Jose do the 'decent' thing and offer to resign? I'm nearly sure I didn't see anyone on here calling for him to do so either.

09 Oct 2020 15:22:58
I did noucamp. I called for him to resign the day the window closed as they had backed some players over him. As a result his job was untenable.
Of course i didn't exoect him to resign there is no reason he should have walkef away from 15m. He bided his time until he was fired.
Ole will do the same, he is a dead man walking but he will wait till he is fired because ole will look after himself and his family in the same way jose did. Obviously jose was always going to get another big job ole won't get another big job.

09 Oct 2020 15:32:08
Spot on Ken

What Ole should do and what he will do are two separate things.

09 Oct 2020 16:27:01
So if you don't get the exact players you want you should resign.

The experts have spoken, but ut really isn't how it works .
Many managers havd little say in transfers they are paid to coach the team .

09 Oct 2020 17:30:36
Jred

It’s a point of principle but I don’t expect you to understand that.

In the gilded world where they are made for life, where money is not an issue, you should value your principles above the money.

09 Oct 2020 17:45:44
Redman you are talking rubbish, what principles? he is paid a lot of money to coach a group of players.

09 Oct 2020 20:00:43
i get sick of people keep telling me he bleeds for the club. he knows the united way. he has the united dna. if he bleeds for the club and has been backed no better than any other manager if he bled that much then he would resign. but the yes man wont.

09 Oct 2020 20:56:02
Fair enough, Ken. I did say 'nearly' almost. Red Man, should Jose have done the 'decent' thing? Or does that principle only apply to managers you don't want at the club?

10 Oct 2020 10:32:29
There are about 160,000 reasons per week why he ain't resigning any time soon.

10 Oct 2020 15:06:52
Noucamp

Yes, I said Jose should have resigned the day after the transfer window closed, I seem to recall I said it at the time and have definitely said it a few times since, even in recent days.

10 Oct 2020 19:10:00
There'd be a lot of unemployed managers about if they threw the towel in every time they didn't get the players they wanted. Or maybe they could just get on with it, and show what they're paid very handsomely to do. And I include Ole in that.

11 Oct 2020 08:11:11
I'm genuinely amazed at how naive people can be.

11 Oct 2020 13:17:10
Jred

Naive? Or you just don’t understand principles.

11 Oct 2020 15:58:22
Redman naive your talking rubbish. A manager/ coach is paid to manager/ coach a set of players for club.
After spending millions during s C.V. C.V. can you imagine a manager walking out on his club job players because they never bought a 100 mill player .

Simple question in the last 40 years how many managers have walked out after a club never signed enough players .
A lot of managers especially in Spain Italy don't even get a say in transfers.

11 Oct 2020 16:33:45
They are given the title Manager, not coach at United. There are big differences between the two.

I don’t think Ole will walk, but if you don’t have money worries, your employer doesn't give you the tools you asked for to do the job and you know what happened to the previous manager, retaining your pride is an option.

He won’t, he will wait it out, but if he wanted to stick it to the decision makers and possibly bring change to the club that was his chance.

11 Oct 2020 18:04:28
Redman
Eh, what a load of nonsense, walk out of you job club players because of what. We didn't pay 100 plus million for sancho .
What a load of rubbish name me one manager in the last 40 year who has walked out of their job after a transfer window.

11 Oct 2020 18:19:58
I don't buy into "he wanted Sancho, Upamecano, Grealish and Ake". Its 3 players to start with, 3 positions. Unless someone believe that Ole asked to buy 2 CB. But "he wanted 4 players and took none" is a good for headlines for tabloids.
I don't think he realistically asked for Sancho (180), Grealish (80) and Upamecano (60). That's 320 millions. I question a CB was a clear target at the start of the window, a CB was always more likely at 2021.
I want to ask something to Shappy who says that we only take 3 or 4 choice players. We all know our strongest first eleven. So say us 4-5 players from our first eleven that wasn't 1 targets. Thanks.

12 Oct 2020 21:17:31
Scholes quit Oldham because they wouldn't buy some National League player . Think he's the only one.

08 Oct 2020 22:57:36
Water is wet, the sky is blue, and Eric Bailly is injured AGAIN 🤦‍♂️.

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09 Oct 2020 07:03:21
I like Bailly. But his injury problems are a huge concern. Looks like we will be playing Slap dash and Lindelof in defence then.

09 Oct 2020 10:07:55
tuanzebe maybe. although his injury record isn't great either.

09 Oct 2020 10:09:40
This is why over the summer I said that despite Bailly being arguably our best CB he should also be moved on along with Jones, Rojo and Smalling. While signing a player like Upamecano.

Bailly has two issues, he is rash and he is injury prone. The question though should be is he injury prone because he is rash? Sadly he is 26 and turns 27 this season. I'm not sure he will ever be able to remove the rashness or the injuries from his game.

09 Oct 2020 15:08:20
he won't with our coaching staff shappy.

10 Oct 2020 14:00:43
I think he has three issues. The third one being he’s not very good.

06 Oct 2020 02:12:32
I imagine we're all pretty angry about this window, but while the Sancho saga is an obvious failure from the club, the failure to sign a centre back and a centre mid to solve our defensive issues is the biggest concern. The fact that Arsenal have signed Thomas Partey for £45 million on deadline day when he was available for that amount all summer is a joke. He would walk into our side and improve it instantly. And you would imagine he would prefer to be playing Champions League football than Europa League football, yet United were never interested. Shambolic. Maguire is an absolute disaster, I would prefer to have kept Smalling. Telles is a good signing, but we could've paid maybe €5 million extra and we could've signed him in June/ July, surely that would've been better, he could've spent the last month playing for us and perhaps more importantly he could've spent the last 3 or 4 months learning English. That money could easily have been saved by letting Rojo and Jones leave last summer when we actually had the opportunity. It hurts to see it said by a person that clearly knows a lot about what goes on in the world of football, but Ed002 is absolutely right when he says there are amateurs running the club.

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06 Oct 2020 10:52:24
we can't buy more midfielders unless we shift pogba and maybe fred. Also have loads of youth coming through.

06 Oct 2020 16:35:24
Matic could have gone aswell, but we gave him a 3 year contract.

06 Oct 2020 21:19:49
I’m. It pretty angry, I’m pretty chilled. Not saying everything is rosy but the meltdowns seem a little over the top. Our defensive record last year was very good, our problem was opening teams up and finishing them off.

In terms of this season we have been pretty poor, but we may be undercooked and not match ready yet. If so then the coaching team need a slap but it’s not the end of the world just yet.

06 Oct 2020 22:18:08
Tony,

I’m hoping that is the case too and we improve a lot after the break, city have been bang average too and if Villa can put 7 past you you’re unlikely to be running away with the title so we might get a bit more of an open league this season anyway. Nobody is winning the league with 100 points I know that much.

We have a much better squad than last season and the young lads are a year older, interesting to see how we go.

06 Oct 2020 22:35:10
I can ALMOST understand the board not going for more defenders. Our defensive record last season was actually pretty good, so we are capable of defending well. I'm hoping, like you say, that it's just that we're a little undercooked. Some of the individual mistakes as well, especially from Maguire, have been embarrassing. Maybe he still has his mind elsewhere?

07 Oct 2020 00:31:14
I’m wondering how hard the police kicked him, and was it in the head, as he seems to have lost all of his ability to play football, almost comically so. I assume he will improve as at the moment he’s a disaster waiting to happen every game.

07 Oct 2020 09:31:22
GDS, he never had much ability to begin with.

07 Oct 2020 10:19:17
LLV,

He did though, ridiculous thing to suggest. The majority agreed last season that he was an improvement on all our other options, we just overpaid for him as we all know.

He is clearly a player well out of form but on form he does have qualities as he showed last season when we hardly let any goals in.

07 Oct 2020 11:33:18
Maguire has been nothing short of shocking this season.

However, There must be a reason, Mourinho, Pochettino and Guardiola wanted him.
As GDS said he has some good attributes.
Last season we were top 5 in Europe for clean sheets.

{Ed025's Note - more through luck than judgement i would suggest TRD..

08 Oct 2020 08:06:24
How can a team be lucky to be the 5th best for clean sheets over the course of a full season. Sorry Ed, over a few games I’d understand that opinion but not over a full season.

It’s similar to when people say we were lucky to finish 3rd. How can it be luck when it’s done over 38 games.

{Ed025's Note - i agree that where you finish is a reflection of how you performed during the season wazza, but i think that said more about your attack than your defence, when you look at the likes of lindelof, maguire and shaw i dont think they get in any of the top 6 for mate, just my opinion of course..

08 Oct 2020 14:26:35
I think how a team sets up tactically plays as much a part as the quality of the players. United for the most part set up to counter attack last season, we sat deep and in numbers making it hard for teams to find a way through, a vast majority of the goals we conceded could be attributed to individual error rather than being tactically undone.

While the statistic itself is flawed. We finished in the top 5 for the number of clean sheets kept. Yet we played 63 games last season, some teams in the EPL might have played as few as 40 if they got knocked out of the domestic cups in the first round and didn't compete in Europe.

Burnley as an example could have only played 40 games and kept 30 clean sheets with a clean sheet record of 75%. While United could have played in 62 and kept 31 clean sheets with a clean sheet record of only 50%. Which side had the better defence?

08 Oct 2020 18:00:09
Ed25 that’s fair enough, but they did keep a lot of clean sheets last season which is not down to the attack, because we didn’t set the world alight for total goals scored or possession. We obviously set out to keep a clean sheet, and they achieved that more than most.

I think we played quite well in periods last season, but that seems like a distant memory at the moment.

{Ed025's Note - i see the defence coping ok with the lesser lights wazza, but when you come up against teams with quick mobile forwards i think you will struggle mate..

08 Oct 2020 19:00:00
I agree 100% Ed, we have gone backwards this season.

Certainly Matic’s lack of mobility and Pogba constantly losing the ball 30 years from our own goal aren’t helping either.

We could do with a Kante type player.

{Ed025's Note - what a player he is wazza, for me ole has to grow a set and drop the under performers no matter what they cost, he seems reluctant to leave out players who are deemed as high profile such as pogba, maguire and martial even when they are playing poorly, he needs to be stronger and gain the respect of the players i think or it will end up costing him his job mate..

 


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