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23 May 2024 19:16:15
Deal completed, Alvaro Fernandez has signed today for Benfica on a 5 year deal.

Fee about 6m euros. Not massive but all contributions to transfer fund gratefully received.

A good move all around, don't think he would of had much opportunity at O. T. Whilst he had promise, Harry Amass has well overtaken him and I think is likely to get opportunities before Alvaro would of.

We hold buy back clause, matching fee rights and sell on clause. Pretty well covers everything.

Good luck to him.

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1.) 23 May 2024 20:01:00
Have . Not of ?.


2.) 23 May 2024 21:46:50
Fizz

You guesting at the cafe or something? ?.


3.) 23 May 2024 21:50:59
Great deal and keeps lines of communication open with Benfica. Neves and Silva would be great additions.


4.) 24 May 2024 11:07:41
Sounds like a good deal to me to jimbob. Good future proofing by the sounds of it.


5.) 26 May 2024 08:20:37
Good luck to him. Good move.


 

 

20 Feb 2024 21:40:23
M. U. F. C. officially announce the purchase of shares by SJR has been completed.

Yay! let the start of the rebirth begin.

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1.) 20 Feb 2024 22:17:20
So he now owns 27.7% because the £200m investment was in return for shares and he will put in another £100m by the end of the year in return for another 1%, is that correct, and that makes him the largest single owner at United.


2.) 21 Feb 2024 09:10:41
He has a mixture of the A and B shares. The B shares are worth more than the A shares.

The B shares are what the Glazers own.


3.) 21 Feb 2024 13:29:31
That's right Mad Hatter, the B shares have increased voting rights.

I believe it's 10 votes per B share, while it's 1 for A. Up until now all the B shares were owned by the Glazer family.


4.) 21 Feb 2024 14:10:39
Great news.


5.) 21 Feb 2024 16:13:20
Surely he’ll start picking off the other glazer siblings shares or is it not that simple?

{Ed002's Note - It is not that simple.}


6.) 21 Feb 2024 16:29:38
Fair enough.


7.) 21 Feb 2024 19:25:57
Doable though ports. I'm sure that's the long term plan.


8.) 22 Feb 2024 10:45:08
If he wants to eventually own all of it he has to take the club off the public market which he has done to every company he has purchased before and find a solution like he did in his initial purchase which listening to him was quite complicated.


9.) 22 Feb 2024 13:25:13
Thought he came across really well in the interview. Probably said enough in ten seconds to give some hope and optimism that no-one else at the club has said in a decade.


10.) 22 Feb 2024 17:24:06
Agree Spenno ?.


11.) 24 Feb 2024 08:21:02
He came across very well.

He clearly does not indulge fluff and nonsense, which you expect from hugely successful people.

In an odd way it’s left me wanting to watch it again - aside from the topic he’s somewhat inspirational in the way he handles himself.


 

 

05 Sep 2023 00:43:38
Another one gone, Bailly signs for Besiktas on a permanent deal.

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1.) 05 Sep 2023 09:11:42
Good news but would have preferred him coming on before Maguire and Evans on Sundday.


2.) 05 Sep 2023 11:43:54
Evans bashing season has started early I see. Bailly is awful. A defender who cannot actually defend or tackle.

I’m truly shocked Maguure stayed though on that topic. The guy must be super pig headed or just not very smart.


3.) 05 Sep 2023 11:34:36
Bailly is a mad man I would rather Maguire.


4.) 05 Sep 2023 11:50:25
Agreed would rather Maguire or Evans over Bailly. He really is that bad.


5.) 05 Sep 2023 13:04:14
Maguire stayed for the money. No one else was going to pay him anywhere near £10m a year. He knows his career is on the downswing, why would he get off the gravy train?


6.) 05 Sep 2023 13:32:49
Christ, People actually think it was a good move getting Jonny evans back. We got rid of him 8 or 9 years ago because he wasn’t good enough. Just got relegated, pushing the wrong end of his 30’s and we give him a contract. It’s absolutely pathetic. It just highlights the shambles this club has become. A complete circus. Maybe Liverpool will give carragher a contract too. It’s a complete joke, and it’s no coincidence we conceded two within ten mins of then two clowns at Cb.


7.) 05 Sep 2023 13:50:47
Stand. It’s not great. But getting rid of him at the time was a mistake.
We’ve spent fortunes on centre backs since, who are not as good as Evans at his peak.

Rojo, Bailly and Maguire certainly fall into that bracket. Lindelof is about on par.
No good saying he wasn’t good enough, when what we replace him with was worse.

Yet another example of bad recruitment over the past 10 years, and it’s surely ironic that the player deemed “not good enough” 9 years ago is the one who outlasted most if not all of the above. Surely that’s a massive face palm for our transfer committee, but they obviously don’t see it that way.


8.) 05 Sep 2023 17:08:55
I find myself regularly agreeing with Stand, we are in danger of becoming a laughing stock.

We know we have issues behind the scenes but signing Evans was bizarre even by our standards. This also links to the lack of players coming through the Academy, are we really saying we don't have a prospect better than Evans? Mind boggling.


9.) 05 Sep 2023 17:15:28
Wazza, i agree, I thought he was ok when he left. But that’s not the point. The fact he’s been given a one year deal at his age now, it’s utterly ridiculous. It’s like dads army at the back with him and slab head. Recruitment at United over the last 10 years must go down as the worst of any big club of all time. Case in point sancho, he’s not good enough and never was. We go give him 375k a bloody week, unreal. No wonder we can never offload the crap at our club, no one else will want to give him half of that.


10.) 05 Sep 2023 17:31:05
I agree with you stand. I’m not defending Evans, I’m saying he’s better than more than half of the centre backs we’ve bought since he left. That’s not his fault. It’s the blind vision of those in charge of transfers.


11.) 05 Sep 2023 18:06:04
Eric79, it’s not Evans bashing. I think everyone of us agree that he’s a good honest pro and likely a nice fella too. It’s not personal to him but it’s ridiculous that we’re in this position. As AJH touched on, we’ve let Tuanzebe and Mengi go recently, and now find ourselves with Jonny Evans at centre half. Meanwhile, over the road, City are adding Gvardiol to their treble winning squad. Liverpool have revamp their midfield in one window after having an off season. Arsenal have added Rice to an already strong midfield and Tottenham have lost their talisman, all time leading goal scorer and are producing good football with a new manager from the off!
How can United fans honestly be happy with our squad and the dross we’re producing away from home.


12.) 05 Sep 2023 18:15:34
Stockholm syndrome stand. Its absolutely bonkers isn’t it.


13.) 05 Sep 2023 18:51:10
It is madness that we ended a premier league game with them 2 at the back but it’s also madness that the reason was because our first choice 4 centre backs were all ill or injured at the same time. Most teams would be screwed if that happened, when it happened to Liverpool they played Nat Philips and Rhys Williams for a while and were shocking. So as much as it’s a joke they had to play, you’d like to hope that it isn’t something that will happen regularly.

{Ed001's Note - actually when Phillips and Williams were the pairing Liverpool went on an unbeaten run to get a top 4 place. It was when midfielders were used in defence before that and the useless loanee lump Kabak played that Liverpool struggled.}


14.) 05 Sep 2023 19:07:33
It’s the clear the club is run appallingly, but that’s not the fault of Evans.

Millions squandered, and never in the right places. The whole club is a cesspit right now.


15.) 05 Sep 2023 19:33:18
Giggs sees everything different in his own mind! If he ain’t seen it differently he just makes it up.


16.) 05 Sep 2023 23:05:01
I thought Liverpool struggled when the moved Fabinho into the back 4 rather than using him at DM as the shield.


17.) 05 Sep 2023 23:40:41
Ah ok, I remember them going for the title the year before and then struggling the year after when their defence was injured, only getting 4th at the end when a few players were back and Allison getting that winner.

Maze, give it a rest you tit.

{Ed001's Note - the defence was still out, it was just Klopp finally took the plunge and gave Phillips and Williams a run and put the midfield back together. Having everyone in their natural position made a huge difference.}


18.) 06 Sep 2023 02:22:37
Hi Giggs. Liverpool fan here and what Ed001 said was correct. We had three first-choice CBs (Matip, Gomez, and Van Dijk) that season and all three were out injured for the duration of the season. We then played our midfielders (Fabinho, Hendo, and Gini) in CB for a while and that was when we struggled. When Hendo and Fabinho got injured, we went out and got Davies and Kabak in the Jan window. Davies and Kabak then got injured so we were forced to play Phillips and Williams in CB. That, coupled with the return from injury of both Hendo and Fabinho, led to us going on an unbeaten run and ultimately finishing third that season.

You were partially right though when you said that we got a few players back but it was our midfield players, not our CBs that returned from injury. And that winner from Allison helped a lot as well.


19.) 07 Sep 2023 18:34:28
Take the money. Donate one week's wages to Earps to persuade her to stay. Sancho has no future at this club.


 

 

08 Jul 2023 17:26:09
Being reported that deal with Inter for Onana has been agreed.
Seemingly our first bid was 45m euros up front and 5m in extras, Inter wanting 60m.
A deal has now been done at 50m up front and 5m extras.
If true, am happy with that and he will be available for pre season tour.
Move on now to Hojlund, if that can be agreed pretty quickly, will be impressive progress.

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1.) 08 Jul 2023 18:00:07
If we can offload Henderson for the reported £30 million I think its great business. Still means we need to find and understudy. Maybe a season long loan to save the funds for this season.


2.) 08 Jul 2023 19:59:43
Goodluck let's see what this o nana what's my name does for us.


3.) 09 Jul 2023 14:22:05
Sounds like an Irish keeper….


 

 

30 Jun 2023 20:05:24
So Ethan Laird been sold to Birmingham, bit surprising, but then again we need to start getting monies coming in to implement the wishes of ETH.
Wish him well, always thought there was a player there.

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1.) 30 Jun 2023 20:50:37
Looks a decent player, but not what is needed. Hopefully we have a sell on fee. Wish him all the best and hopes he kicks on and has a good career.


2.) 01 Jul 2023 02:42:48
Why is it surprising? He's had a few loans now and no manager has fancied him. He's simply not good enough.

I say the same for Zidane iqbal, fans are up in arms that were letting him go.

The same fans that say whoever ten hag wants we should back him and get.

The manager sees him day in day out training, he doesn't rate him. I'll take the pro coaches opinion over the armchair pundits.


3.) 01 Jul 2023 08:37:16
In terms of fess and where football is atm, these fees are peanuts and more akin to house cleaning and getting rid of stuff you will never use and just want your place free of clutter.

Reality is we are not producing enough players good enough for first team football and not investing enough atm.


4.) 01 Jul 2023 09:02:22
He's one of those lads who might end up being a bit of a late bloomer. Injuries have made it difficult for him to kick on and he's getting to a point in his career where he needs stability and regular playing time.

Talented lad, but not all of them make it to the top. Wish him the best with the rest of his career.


5.) 01 Jul 2023 09:55:54
They did a study a few years back, 97% of Elite Academy players didn't make one first team appearance.

Ethan is one of the lucky ones who should be able to make a career out of football, wish him all the best.


6.) 01 Jul 2023 10:13:07
Finally we’re producing players that we can sell on to keep the academy viable. Look a the clubs they’ve gone to.

We all seem to harp back to to the 92 youth team - once in a lifetime side which is what made it all so special.


7.) 01 Jul 2023 11:03:27
Not every lad that comes through the academy will make it regardless of their talent. Some can't make the step up, some aren't mentally strong enough to handle the pressure, some just don't get the chances at the right time.

However, I also think we put too high a bar on whether an academy lad is a success. It's world class or nothing.

A lot of talk of the class of 92, but I'd argue that players like O'Shea, Brown, Fletcher etc have all had telling contributions to the club during their time with us.

Personally I feel like the academy should be where we get most of our squad players from, give them a chance as back up, and maybe they will make the jump.

The problem comes when we have a bloated squad and they are 5th or 6th choice down the pecking order. They'll never get the minutes need to make the jump like that.

Personally I'd like us to have around 18 quality outfield players in our squad, then the rest of the squad be made up from talented academy players.


8.) 01 Jul 2023 12:51:13
Whilst we wish it were different, not many of our youth prospects are actually good enough to make it in the first team, perhaps even players like Hannibal.

So few youngsters actually make it in first teams, even at City, Liverpool etc

Perhaps only Mainoo and Lacey have got this potential.

So much work to do to catch up with youth recruitment and other academies - who hoard youngsters from around the world use the youth system primarily as a revenue stream.


9.) 01 Jul 2023 15:44:07
I’ll chuck my tuppence worth in. I’d argue the points made that our academy is failing and not doing its job is total nonsense. The percentage of players that go on to be premier league stars is such a tiny percentage, we were spoiled by the class of 92.

But if you look at the number of players who go on to become solid professional footballers then I’d suggest it’s a pretty high number. I’m fortunate to be pals with James Wilson who we had a few years ago, and I can tell you now, he’s made a great living from football and from a founding by Manchester United.

The academy gets plenty of investment. It’s not just about producing players for our first team.


10.) 01 Jul 2023 21:09:28
It seems we have taken the view with our youth team that a few extra millions now is not worth it compared to a higher sell on fee which could exceed what we would get now.
Laird looked good, then had a problem period. Obviously EtH does not think he will fit so best for all he moves on.
I think Mainoo and Fernandes may break through.


11.) 01 Jul 2023 22:03:12
I wouldn’t focus on the fee.

The academy needs to offer a route to first team football and for many that won’t be at Utd.

By having a low fee the player will get more options and that speaks well for future recruitment.

There will be additional clauses that will see Utd profit if the player excels.

The lower leagues are full of ex Utd talent and it’s great the club can offer that route to players.


12.) 01 Jul 2023 23:40:30
I think a lot of it with the academy lads is not just talent but adaptability, opportunity and a lot of luck. Everyone wants to see the exciting skilful young players come through and make it into the first team, myself included. But sometimes it’s the ones you don’t expect that make themselves a reliable member in the squad and could go on to play 150-200 games for us over the course of their career. Everybody is excited to see what comes of Lacey, Ibragimov and Hansen but the truth is we felt the same way about Angel Gomes, Chong and Fosu Mensah a few years ago. The next solid first teamer from the academy could be Savage or Bennett for all we know. Not everyone can be a Scholes or a Giggs. I’d be very happy to have a Wes Brown, a John O’Shea and a Danny Welbeck in our squad.


13.) 01 Jul 2023 23:52:09
I think that you will find there are more players playing professional football who started out or played for Utd youth or academy teams than from any other team.


 

 

 

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18 May 2024 15:57:02
Been announced that De Zerbi is leaving Brighton after the game tomorrow.
So the fun and games begin.

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1.) 18 May 2024 22:17:45
Chelsea approached McKenna apparently, and according to David Ornstein, Ineos like Pochettino. Ornstein also said that should United change the coach, he don’t see Tuchel, Potter nor Southgate as favourites.


2.) 19 May 2024 08:03:03
I’m a big fan of Poch.


3.) 19 May 2024 12:57:50
I find the ongoing McKenna links strange. Surely any manager who’s just been promoted would hang around to see the new season with the club they’d just got there, especially the Prem, like Kompany did. Got his work cut out though in terms of bringing in some experienced heads or the same fate will hit Ipswich.


 

 

16 May 2024 21:05:53
So, season stats, Antony 1 goal and 1 assist.
Amad, 1 game, 1 goal 1 assist.
Really hope Amad starts cup final, something different and more of an unknown quantity for city.

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1.) 16 May 2024 23:39:00
I hope he starts the final, but am keeping grounded and not getting too carried away. He's a great talent, but we also thought Tuanzebe was the next Bobby Moore after one game against PSG.


2.) 16 May 2024 23:43:42
Neither will start.


3.) 17 May 2024 04:13:44
don't care who starts and just want us to win. going to the game and very excited to be there.


4.) 17 May 2024 04:37:17
Enjoy Ahmad! Just want to see a good fight, we give them a game and pull out a win against the odds. If we stick together as a squad and trust each other and work hard for each other we can win.


5.) 17 May 2024 09:13:18
Enjoy Ahmad. I’m back in Oz or would be there.


6.) 17 May 2024 09:21:37
Why wouldn't he start? On current form - ie one game - he's probably more effective than Antony or Garnacho.
I would say much could depend on Rashford's fitness on the day how we line-up.


7.) 18 May 2024 11:40:03
Garnacho needs a rest against Brighton tomorrow, he's clearly running out of steam, which is understandable for a youngster who in only his second season has started close to 40 consecutive games. That's too much, but is unfortunately reflective of where this squad is.

He's at an age and in that stage of development where ideally he needs a run of 5-10 games starting then a 3-5 games starting on the bench. Let his body recover and give him space to reflect and learn.

Amad should 100% start the final, as he should also start against Brighton. If Rashford is fit it should be Rashford and Amad starting against Brighton, if Rashford isn't fit then Antony should start in his place.

Those three need the minutes in their legs and should be the ones fighting for the other starting wide position in the final alongside Garnacho on the other flank.

Also I've been impressed with Amrabat in the last couple of games. He's shown more fight and ability. He works well with Mainoo in the middle. Not perfect but those odd errors can probably be chalked down to rustiness. If he'd played all season like this then I'd be tempted to pay the 20m to make his loan a permanent deal. Certainly there is something to be said for better the devil you know. 20m for a squad player who knows can do the job even if he's probably not going to be good enough to really push for a first team place. Rather than a 20-30m signing who is a gamble. Unfortunately for Amrabat it might be too little too late. Yet a man of the match performance in the FA cup final leading to silverware this season might change public opinion and see a clamour to sign him.


 

 

14 May 2024 21:56:04
Most will know our U18s have had an excellent season winning the Premier League- North, also the League Cup. Well tonight they played the National Final against the winners of Premier League-South who were Chelsea, at Stamford Bridge.

Well, they delivered again, winning the game 2-1. Tough match against a very good and powerful side. In the final 10 minutes we missed 3 very easy chances but fortunately they did not matter.

Some decent performances, Ethan Wheatley is a handful, I posted some months ago about Harry Amass and he does have that look of being special, although he has only recently turned 17 think he will be getting first team opportunities in the not too distant future.

Anyway, good to see success to lift some of the gloom that seems all encompassing.

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1.) 14 May 2024 22:43:42
Great season for them. If 2 make the 1st team like mainoo and garnacho have it would be great.
Amass has every chance and I agree I expect to see him in or around the 1st team at times next season.


 

 

13 May 2024 21:48:13
Oh dear, Donny Van de Beek has finished his loan spell early and returned to the Netherlands following an Achilles injury.
That guy can not get a break, not sure we will be able to effect any sale this summer.
Think it may be best to grant a free transfer, no doubt some form of severance payment will be required.
This guy has had more luck than anybody I know, trouble is every bit has been bad.

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1.) 13 May 2024 22:27:45
Why would he want a free transfer and give up his salary when injured?


2.) 13 May 2024 23:47:04
Danny, as I said a severance payment would be needed, it would then give him an opportunity to attempt making some sort of deal with another club.


3.) 14 May 2024 11:51:38
He won’t be let go whilst injured. He gets medical care from the club, why would he give that up and start finding his own from his own pocket?


4.) 14 May 2024 12:32:22
He was not getting game time at franfurt and they were not keeping him.
Is it a serious injury?


5.) 14 May 2024 16:11:43
Ken, don't know how serious injury is, all that was said was it is heel/ Achilles tendon, he has returned to Netherlands for treatment. Really hope for his sake it is not bad, he deserves some luck.

GNev, who is talking about him paying his own medical costs? for the third time, a financial settlement would need to be agreed, clearly that aspect would form part of the consideration.


 

 

12 May 2024 14:21:48
There is a very important game today, just about to kick off.
Our women are in the F. A. Cup Final for a second successive year.
Come on you ladies, best of luck and let's have something to shout about.

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1.) 12 May 2024 14:54:37
Bring it home ladies…show em how’s it’s done!


2.) 12 May 2024 15:20:07
Wot a goal!


3.) 12 May 2024 16:02:54
Glad they have brought Malard on, she won't duck out of any challenges!


4.) 12 May 2024 16:26:41
Very dominant display by much the better team, ultimately spurred by a world class finish after some great opportunities were squandered.


5.) 12 May 2024 16:40:17
4-0 win United ???.


6.) 13 May 2024 07:04:40
Atmosphere at Wembley was incredible. Was great to see the team enjoying every moment, and fighting/ chasing at every opportunity.


7.) 13 May 2024 08:05:16
There was a moment, when 4-0 up in added time, one of players gave the ball away high up on the left and despite looking knackered worked really hard to win it back. That's a winners mentality there, and what most of us miss seeing regularly!


 

 

 

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17 May 2024 19:46:19
Part of a deal for Olise would be good.

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19 Apr 2024 19:36:54
It's very good news, thought it was close when they let Murtough go.

Need Ashworth sorted as soon as, then get on with proper planning for the future.

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22 Mar 2024 17:26:50
Can he inspire though? I don't see it.

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21 Mar 2024 13:03:06
Think you are right Wallace, although it's well known Nacho is pretty obsessed with Ronaldo, indeed, has been said the reason he came to us was to follow in his footsteps.
Think he will probably leave in 4-5 years time, suspect it will be Real, but hopefully we get plenty from him in the meantime.

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12 Mar 2024 22:14:39
Giggs to Sheringham, yes mate, you are spot on. When we win almost no posts, see after Everton game.
If we lose it goes mental with dozens of posts essentially repeating the same thing over and over.

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20 May 2024 00:42:58
Welcome to the real world.

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15 May 2024 14:37:36
Thanks Ed.

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15 May 2024 13:59:33
Thanks for info Ed02, is that 50m euros figure in the right ball park?

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15 May 2024 12:05:47
That rubbish about players not giving the ball to Rasmus is utter nonsense, totally made up bollox.

As a more direct rebuttal of that nonsense, is the fact that Rasmus Hodjlund has the second best conversion rate of goals to chances in the premier league, he is only behind Haaland who has a conversion rate of 23%, while Rasmus has a conversion rate of 22%. Clearly Rasmus has had far fewer opportunities.

Here's a radical idea, give him the ball much, much more. I am quite sure he would be a 20+ league goals scorer.

On the subject of Sesko, don't know if true, but I have seen a number of reports saying he is available for 50m euros. If true, that makes him even more of an appealing target.

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14 May 2024 22:50:31
No he wasn't Jacko, it was his agent, I would however be very pleased to see Sesko at O. T. he is a player of great skill and promise.

Do not think he is a step up from Hojlund more a case of competition. Whatever the case until players start putting the ball in the box more it does not matter who we have.

Have to say I really noticed it on Sunday against Arsenal, the number of times both Garnacho and Amad (who I thought was good and deserves more game time) were in good position to get the ball in the box and just played back and sideways. I found myself shouting at TV in annoyance. You won't score every time getting the ball in the box but you will NEVER score keeping it out wide. If I was annoyed god knows how Rasmus feels, I am quite sure he would score if he gets any kind of service.

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