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18 Aug 2022 11:57:08
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17 Aug 2022 23:52:21
Hi Ed002

Is it true we have had a 110 mill bid for Jao Felix turned down.

{Ed002's Note - I have explained he is not for sale. I am not aware of any such bi.}

17 Aug 2022 22:13:50
Is there any truth to consortiums preparing a bid?

I read on twitter there are 3 consortiums preparing bids.

Thanks

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18 Aug 2022 00:13:55
Prepare a bid for what? We aren’t for sale.

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18 Aug 2022 02:34:55
Everything has a price!

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18 Aug 2022 08:41:15
GDS, everything is for sale at the right price.

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18 Aug 2022 08:55:59
Naivety to think everything isn’t for sale.

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18 Aug 2022 09:08:03
I wouldn't say everything is for sale, although would agree most things have a price.

The issue is if the owners don't want to sell then any price that would convince them to part with the club would need to be significantly above market value.

If the market value of the club is around 3bn, but the Glazers don't want to sell then who will offer the 4 or 5bn it would take to convince them to sell?

People with that sort of money don't make a habit of throwing it away by overpaying for things.

If they were prepared to massively over pay for the club then as fans we need to ask why? There would need to be reason for that and it might not be something we as fans are happy about.

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18 Aug 2022 09:25:47
Depends if they see value in United's future, how much will we be worth in 10-20 years.

The Glazers aren't adding value anymore, if you look at our operating income over the last 10 years, other clubs have now caught up and will soon overtake us, the Glazers in real terms have a depreciating asset.

Remember Ratcliffe put in a bid of £4.25billion for Chelsea, far above their actual market value and eventual sale price. If he went to the Glazers with £5billion, I think they would sell.

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18 Aug 2022 09:29:21
It feels like we have entered the perfect storm for this to actually progress. The sale of Chelsea has set a bit of a benchmark and pulled investors out of the woodwork, the Glazers interest in the club has deteriorated since the death of Malcom who seemed to be the driving factor, the fact that fan groups seem to really be mobilising following the super league and finally the impending costs that is required to upgrade the ground, training ground and potentially a brand new team for EtH!
Not sure what valuation the club would have put on it but the Chelsea price would surely be the starting point.
Key for me is that any sale must clear the leveraged debt on the club, I understand that owners will look to make money on the investment but paying the debt plus dividends is just crippling the need to invest in the club.
Jim Radcliffe would be the ideal person but whether that is a reality or not who knows. just the right person/ consortium with the correct finances and ethics should be looked at. The Glazers will walk away with a large profit and we need to accep that, let's hope they at the very least want to leave the club in the right hands as there only legacy.

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{Ed001's Note - it was Avram who was the driving force behind the takeover. Malcolm had little to really do with it all other than to sign things.}

17 Aug 2022 22:11:44
Is Elon Musk buying Utd? He tweeted that, is he being serious?

17 Aug 2022 22:25:13
No, he is joking.

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18 Aug 2022 01:15:30
K listened to a podcast earlier that said if Elon Musk if tweeting about buying Man United (even if he joking he is) he is as as aware they are for sale. If you as selling something those who can afford it will have been told. Make of it what you will.

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{Ed001's Note - the podcast are talking bollox. He said it because he knew it would get him publicity on a massive scale, nothing to do with whether it was up for sale. The guy is just a publicity whore, that is why he is so rich, because he knows how to milk the limelight.}

18 Aug 2022 01:31:08
Well good to know. I did get suspicious when he said I can't say who told me this etc. Like some CIA agent. Mind some of what he said is true. The club is rotten to the core and we have owners who are basically asset striping the club .

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{Ed001's Note - the club might very well be up for sale, I don't know, but I do know Musk's tweets and they are just based on what is going to get him talked about. So it would not be because he had info the club is up for sale that he tweeted it. It would just be because United are all over the news.

The fact that Ratcliffe has gone public over his interest would suggest it is not up for sale or he would be more likely to just start discussions direct with the Glazers. He would not want to get drawn into a public auction in case it lifted the price up. No one but the Glazers would benefit from a public sale process and even they might suffer as a lot of potential buyers would not be interested in getting involved in that kind of situation.}

18 Aug 2022 01:36:23
Oh sorry to post this again, . but had a full length conversation tonight with my mate, on who as a neutral ( he a Sunderland fan) would you choose as the manger of Man United to be your captain. Took him an age and said Varane (if he was fit for every game) it's a major issue I keep bringing up. Not one leader in the squad.

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{Ed001's Note - I can't think of one either. Certainly wouldn't want Varane as a captain personally, even if fit. He has never shown an iota of leadership potential.}

18 Aug 2022 02:08:59
I am one for a conspiracy theory, do you think the likes of the Glaziers and the billionaires of the world, help each other out. So Musk, Ratclffe ( both I don't think need publicity) discuss things like this to boost the price of what they own ( I scratch your back you scratch mind mentality) Musk does it in a way he always wins in the long-term. I personally think football will turn out like the NBA and do drafts for players. It certainly needs something (been a united fan would love to win every year) but some leagues (Scottish, French, German) these leagues have the same top two every year, I know this happened before, I just can't see any European league having any other top 3 each season for a long long time. The money gap is bigger than ever.

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{Ed001's Note - quite the opposite. Most of them see each other as rivals.}

18 Aug 2022 07:47:18
Kev that would be stock manipulation and illegal. Musk likes to insert himself in whatever is the hot topic. He is brilliant at what he does but also a wind up merchant who gets a kick by the media frenzy when he says something.

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18 Aug 2022 08:35:45
ED001

If it was for sale it would definitely be run like an auction. That's how you get the best valuation and bids. we do this very often and just got chopped on something unrelated to football in the penultimate round. There were 4 rounds and each round bidders got dropped based on their bids and attached conditions. its going to PIF's from what I understand.

The Glazers are poor owners in terms of knowing how to run a football club and the structure they have put in but when it comes to something like this I suspect pretty smart and will not leave anything on the table.

I personally think getting PE firms involved in football clubs is a terrible idea because of how we look at deploying capital and the end goals, which is generally an exit date where you think you are at max profitability and get max valuations and payout since your capital raise from investors always has a redemption period.

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{Ed001's Note - I very much doubt anyone would get involved in an auction like that for Manchester United, due to the emotional attachments people have to clubs. It will be similar to the way they bought it themselves - someone coming in and just hoovering up all the shares they can get and gradually picking off direct from the Glazers as they look for funds for other projects.}

18 Aug 2022 09:55:28
Ed- do you think that is the way in for someone like Ratcliffe? Buy a stake now and just through time gradually add and eventually take them over?

Obviously lots of others could do it but he’s the only real name I’ve seen so far.

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{Ed002's Note - No. If Jim Ratcliffe wants to take over he will enquire about availability and then put together a formal offer.}

18 Aug 2022 10:10:25
Thanks Ed.

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17 Aug 2022 17:42:23
Looks like the Glazer's chequebook for new signings is permanently closed. Loan only deals now.

£50m net spend tells us all we need to know. Everything else is just a smokescreen.

At least the parasites may finally be going though!

Whoever buys us next we can only hope they put their own money in.

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17 Aug 2022 18:00:44
Nothing wrong with loan deals if you are looking for a short term fix because long term/ ideal targets are not available. sometimes also good to see if the player fits and option to turn many into longer term deal.

I would not read too much into all the press stuff as a lot of it is not accurate or even true. ATM every 2 hours we have a new target that we are buying.

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17 Aug 2022 20:03:11
We’ve agreed a £72m fee for FDJ though so what you’re suggesting about having no money is nonsense.

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17 Aug 2022 20:39:12
Gds just us looking like we're trying to make big money signings. The reality is we were looking to sell garner to afford rabiot.

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17 Aug 2022 20:39:58
The Glazers have never opened THEIR chequebook once just for reference 👍🏻.

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17 Aug 2022 21:17:58
dannyc

ed002 said garner is pushing for a move as the club does not have a long term plan for him. Nothing wrong with selling players if they are not going to get to play and want to move to advance their careers, happens all the time. it does not mean we are skinned as some like to suggest.

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17 Aug 2022 12:22:22
Now there is talk of Pulisic on loan to united, frankly I'd take him over Ziyech.
Don't know if there is any truth to this talk, perhaps an Ed can shed some light.

{Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware.}

17 Aug 2022 13:30:51
Wouldn’t like Pulisic at all, good passer and great work rate. Touch of class as well.

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17 Aug 2022 13:52:27
Made of poppadoms.

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17 Aug 2022 14:02:19
Aside from Arnautovic, this is the most uninspiring rumour of the summer. So it’ll probably happen.

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17 Aug 2022 14:29:49
Personally I have always liked Pulisic and wanted us to bring him in when he initially went to Chelsea. On loan this one makes sense to me and I think he fits EtH style.
Only issue is injury record but hopefully he would get a run of games and share load with youngsters.

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17 Aug 2022 17:10:15
Could do a lot worse, I like him.

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17 Aug 2022 18:21:30
Wooohhhhhhh GDS and Pulisic sitting in a tree.

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17 Aug 2022 22:11:57
Can’t see it being true but if so just tells me Antony will wait until next summer.

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17 Aug 2022 10:34:32
Ed any interest in Felix from us and are we still pursuimg Antony from Ajax?

Thanks ed have an amazing day.

{Ed002's Note - Another PL side asked about Felix and were told he would not be sold this year. Right now I would think Antony is unlikely to join, but still of interest.}

17 Aug 2022 01:09:49
Hi Ed02!

With transfer window very near to the end, lot of reports claiming we are in talks with several agents of different players who were not our primary target before.

If you can, can you please give us some clarity on who the players are that we are jumping on right now. Annoying as it may be, i am hopeful that this are the players who fit into ten haag's philosophy instead of random players just for the sake of signing.

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware who these players are. I am aware of the options I have mentioned. Agents will approach clubs all of the time, but it does not mean there is interest from the club.}

17 Aug 2022 11:11:17
Hey Ed,
You think we will get any players in or are we more or less done?

Thanks!

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{Ed002's Note - There will be some comings and goings.}

17 Aug 2022 11:57:15
Great!

Fingers crossed, Ed.

Thanks again!

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17 Aug 2022 16:25:25
How many will we get in Ed?

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{Ed002's Note - it is hard to tell.}

17 Aug 2022 17:11:12
Oh come on Ole, how are you expecting Ed2 to know that?

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17 Aug 2022 20:14:54
Honestly I don't anyone is coming in. no one wants to join this shambles of a club anymore. We might just have enough to avoid relegation but I don't hold my breathe.

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18 Aug 2022 00:15:12
we will sign a few players Nick, a while left yet.

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16 Aug 2022 20:22:34
According to Romano, the Rabiot deal is OFF due to his wage demands…….

Another bullet dodged.

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16 Aug 2022 20:38:54
For good.

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16 Aug 2022 20:45:00
The club is dodging so many bullets that they’ll end the transfer window with McFred. Not that I think Rabiot was the solution, but the club is clearly struggling to find players willing to join and scrambling around in the last two weeks of the transfer window.

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16 Aug 2022 20:59:49
He was never a player I wanted, so in a way I'm glad he hasn't signed.

However, what I'm really happy about is the club having enough sense not to fold and give him a huge contract.

With all of the bad press around the club they could have easily given in, and paid him what his mummy asked for just to get a signing done and try and create some positivity.

The fact that they seemingly have made a conscious, sensible decision NOT to just throw money at the problem like throwing sh1t on the wall and hoping some sticks, is actually a positive step forward in my opinion.

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16 Aug 2022 21:32:55
At this stage United efforts to get a midfielder look desperate and everyone will up their fee. Rabiot was only a good deal at the right price.

Caicedo seems to be next on the United transfer merry go round. Expect a few weeks of lowball bids followed by a desperate lunge at the end of the transfer window for anyone who has ever played in midfield.

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16 Aug 2022 21:37:31
Good news unless the club becomes even more desperate as the month ends and they throw the Rabiot money at someone even less desirable like Fellaini in 2013.

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16 Aug 2022 21:52:30
As other posters have said, proud of the club for not giving in to a parasite like Rabiot and his lunatic mothers demands. He probably banged a bit on his wage demand knowing full well we are in s*** state.

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16 Aug 2022 22:03:25
Wonder where this leaves Garner? I thought they wanted to sell him to help with the Rabiot fee?

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16 Aug 2022 22:18:00
You’ve got to start ask questions of John Murtough. How is he selling the project to potential players? l dudes been to Spain and Turin to finalise deals and he’s returned empty handed.

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16 Aug 2022 22:32:20
Simply put, murtough is utterly useless at his job. After this shambles of a transfer window and the embarrassment he has caused the club, he really should be sacked on 1st September. But in truth all should be kicked out the club.

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16 Aug 2022 22:39:01
Glad we did not give in and stood our ground. maybe finally seeing the light.

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17 Aug 2022 00:07:51
It's all good until you are all crying at the end of the transfer window that we have to rely on those two useless idiots in midfield.

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17 Aug 2022 01:30:52
Very nice RW, I imagine those two useless idiots are 5 times the humans you appear to be with comments like that.

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17 Aug 2022 02:16:33
Give it a rest dodgy, they are both utterly useless. Absolute liabilities on and off the ball. couldn't give a toss if they have had the odd good game, they are not good enough for a top 6 team nevermind to challenge for the title.

Too much sentiment'hes one of our own' 'but he puts in the effort and graft'. Yeah okay but they're still rubbish players.

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17 Aug 2022 06:32:42
I’m sorry but although most of us seem these players rubbish and not the standard we need or are used to, their certainly not rubbish players!

They are all far better than what their showing but their so bereft of confidence it’s staggering! Hence why our fan base need to be better, this group of players ( although I like others dislike a lot of them ) need us lot more than ever on their side!

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17 Aug 2022 07:06:02
Mctominay and fred aren't rubbish? I'll put down the whiskey and switch to smoking whatever your on Chris.

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17 Aug 2022 08:07:12
To be fair to the likes of Scott, Fred they are supposed to be decent lads who want to play for Manchester United. But the fact of the matter is they aren’t good enough. They don’t have the class or technical ability to succeed here.

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17 Aug 2022 08:08:00
So much for only signing first or at a push second targets. We literally can't even get 4-5th choice.

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17 Aug 2022 09:12:31
Someone mentioned Fellaini above. Christ, I think I’d take someone similar at this point in time. At least he’d show some battling qualities and actually provide a presence in the side.

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17 Aug 2022 10:25:17
If they keep dodging bullets is it any wonder Utd fire only blanks.

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