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08 Mar 2021 21:32:20
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06 Mar 2021 05:30:55
Rumours of Ole getting a new contract. Is there any truth to this?

Does the board believe in him and would allow more money to be spent on players? Are we falling into the same trap where we trust and sign players to improve the squad and in the end the manager fails and the new manager has a cleaning up job to do in order to get new players in?

Hope a few in the board see some sense and don't mess around anymore.

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06 Mar 2021 07:28:13
I think the board will at least wait until the end of the season and will almost certainly not be in a rush to hand him a new contract.

I'd imagine that since Utd have gone from 1st to send place with a 14 point gap between the two places might just have the board thinking he might not be good enough.

On paper, given our current form we could very easily lose all our games in March. Although I do expect us to turn things around. Leicester will benefit from not being in the EL. Ogs will play a strong team in the EL. His inability to rest key players his a worry, I do fear at the end of the season we may have a team that has run out of juice.

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06 Mar 2021 07:39:03
You just need to ask "what constitutes success for the board and the owners they work for? "

While Ole might in the eyes of most fans be the worst manager we have had since Sir Alex, he looks set to be the only one to manage successive top four finishes.

Since pretty much all past United managers have been sacked when the club failed to achieve a top four finish, I think its clear what the club's ambition is.

The club are already putting out stories to dampen fans expectations in the summer transfer market. Historically they have always spent significantly less in the summers after UCL qualification has been secured. This year they get to do it but blame the C.V. for hitting finances (which it definitely has) .

We are a cash cow for our owners, their ambition is simple only invest enough to keep the money rolling in. That's why there is no investment in the stadium, as it doesn't increase revenue. They'll spend on players when they have to in order to get top four.

We are Arsenal now. Get used to it. No doubt at some point Ole will get the sack, maybe next season if he doesn't get top four, or the year after if he does. Basically he will be our manager until we fail in the eyes of the owners.

Then the next guy will come in and he'll be tasked with the same remit, get top four and keep your job. If you can win a cup or even a title then great. But they won't getting financial backing in the years they make top four, so sustained success seems unlikely.

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06 Mar 2021 08:06:42
" worse manager by most fans "?
On thus site, don't mistake this site for an example if the majority of united fans.

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06 Mar 2021 08:27:11
Jred, i bet its more than 70% worldwide. OGS should consider himself lucky there are no fans at OT. When the fans do come back and OGS is still in charge, there would be singing but the music will be drowned by the sound of snoring.

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06 Mar 2021 09:33:17
Shappy i wouldn't say he looks set to get top 4 again if results go against us this weekend. we could be right in the dog fight of top 4 with 2nd to 7th only having 6 points difference and 3 of those teams have a game in hand on us also with 1/ 4 of a season left to play.

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06 Mar 2021 11:17:36
Sadly, I think that the board views top four as a success; as evidenced by the huge disparity between our net spends when we do and don’t qualify for the Champions League. I’m sure the board would love for the team to win silverware, but they damn sure don’t want to spend the kind of money required for us to do so.

It strikes me very much as short term thinking, as while Manchester United may still be a big draw to potential sponsors right now, a few more trophyless seasons and continued boring performances will change all of that pretty quickly. The next generation of potential fans will have very little interest in supporting a side like ours and as they grow into their roles as consumers, the big sponsors will follow their lead.

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06 Mar 2021 12:03:51
Good post Shap’s!

Redseven - I’m not so sure mate Spurs built themselves a solid reputation by just consistently finishing in the top 4 under Potch. Would they have built that fantastic new stadium if they had been finishing mid table so commercially it can be considered a success for some Clubs but surely this can never be tolerated at Man Utd.

Anyway I think the evidence is staring us in the face. The football is no better, results remain inconsistent Ole has always been nearer the sack than turning us into a decent outfit. In my opinion we’ve been dragged back into a dog fight for top 4 and following our Champions League capitulation I couldn’t say with any confidence that we won’t throw it away. Having said that what does finishing in the top 4 actually mean for us fans? We didn’t even get out of the group stage this season and the board have already said they’ll be no money available for transfers this summer. It probably safeguards revenue and sponsorship for the Club but it doesn’t mean we’ll be able to compete next year.

I’m depressed we’re not going anywhere quick and if the best we can look forward to is Champions League football whilst playing safe, percentage football to achieve it watching Liverpool and City winning the major honours then welcome to purgatory, welcome to the post SAF apocalypse, welcome to Manchester United.

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06 Mar 2021 15:00:25
If the purse strings are to be tightened next year, then is it not even more imperative that we have a coach who is actually good at coaching and improving players?

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06 Mar 2021 16:49:25
I second that notion Mumbles. Get rid of the "INEPT ONE". Get a proper coach.

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06 Mar 2021 18:07:21
I strongly suspect manager severance packages are tied in to UCL qualification. Ergo if we finish top 4 it would likely cost more to sack the manager.

But like I said, it really doesn't matter what style we play to the owners. They don't watch the matches, they just want the money that UCL qualification brings in, along with the tied in sponsorship deals.

As long as the manager achieves that he will be here as our manager.

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{Ed014's Note - long may it continue 😉

07 Mar 2021 12:33:59
I think the 'United are Arsenal now' comment is spot on. None of us like it but the reality for a long time has been winning silverware is not imperative from the owners perspective. We are having a strange season in that we are capable of scoring 9 but yet conceding 6. We all know we are a way short on quality at CB and arguably need to buy 2 class CBs whereas financially we will struggle to get one. I do think a settled defensive triumvirate (Henderson - Maguire - then Torres or Varane) would transform this side offensively also. And that for me is the key position we have to fill. Any thought of buying Sancho, Haaland or Grealish is just a pipe dream though. The view will be Amad on RW and Greenwood at CF will save us £150-200m which we just don't have to spend. The only way I see us buying anyone is if we can generate some cash from De Gea, Martial and Pogba leaving. Achieving Top 4 is our minimum requirement given the Champions League revenue it generates but providing Ole achieves that I don't think he is going anywhere.

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08 Mar 2021 01:51:28
We might be Arsenal but Arsenal are more like Stoke, mid table obscurity.

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08 Mar 2021 07:37:01
Agree with GDS2 here, Arsenal are a weaker squad with a manager no better than our own. Have a bit of respect for us 😂.

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08 Mar 2021 07:52:06
Okay, I'll revise that, we are Arsenal of 10 years ago. A declining club that used to challenge for titles, but now it's main aim is the top four trophy 😂.

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08 Mar 2021 08:02:15
God arsenal would probably be very lucky to achieve top four on current form. I think shappy was referring to the old arsenal, when they where a decent side.

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{Ed077's Note - they would probably want a open top, bus parade if that happened😂😂

08 Mar 2021 09:12:39
77 😂 😂 😂

It does make me laugh though how Ole cops a lot of stick while Arteta quietly continues to underachieve and gets away with it.

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{Ed077's Note - because sadly for them, their standards have fallen so far that its not that relevant anymore. Thats just the proof that accepting mediocrity for long period just ends up making you bang average.

08 Mar 2021 13:29:23
God. Please don't let that happen to us 🙏, just being content with top four is not enough🤔😡 hopefully the glaziers have enjoyed the success of TNEP and push for some for us.

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05 Mar 2021 17:56:08

I've seen today that Utd have been linked with Moriba at Barcelona.

Do you Utd have any interest in the player?

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{Ed002's Note - Ilaix Moriba (CM) Barcelona fended off interest from Chelsea when he was 16 and the sustained recent interest of RBL who offered a structured career growth option when he turned 18 in January by explaining they would sell if his €100M release clause was met. He is playing in Spain, and for Spain, under the Cotonou Agreement - that could make it difficult for him if he left for Germany. I am not aware of any approach from Manchester United nor any idea what they would try to do with him.}

05 Mar 2021 21:42:06
Cheers ED002.

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02 Mar 2021 22:32:29
Having watched ole's united this season and the comments he has made, it is clear that ole doesn't have confidence in this current squad. One game sticks out and that is the game vs liverpool. Liverpool were there for the talking, on poor form but ole decided to set his team up with hand breaks on.

Beat liverpool and the belief would grow that this utd team can fight for the title. Ole lacks belief in this this, the question is if the board would pull that extra weight in big incomings or settle for champions league places .

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04 Mar 2021 06:15:41
Tukorish you know the answer I guess. Finishing top 4 is the priority and anything else is just bonus. We could see a few incomings but probably depends on where we finish and hopefully a lot of outgoings to free up some space.

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04 Mar 2021 06:45:02
Without sounding daft, but Ole's has allowed the team to play attackive football, hence the goals for and against.

We have played 9 games, since the start of Feb, mainly using the same 11, with the odd player rotation, coupled in with the fact thst Pogba (One of our most influencial players this season) has not played a part in any of those games.

It's not a case of lacking belief in his team, it's sheer tiredness.

I think Ole has lacked the skills to
To utilise possibly one, if not the strongest squad in the premier league.
Same formation week in, week out with the smae players starting. it's easy to be found wanting when other teams adapt.

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04 Mar 2021 06:53:14
"There’s going to be less transfers happening in the world of football with all these changes"

“The C.V. is definitely affecting everyone in football, the lack of finances, it’s affected everyone. All clubs in the world are going through the same situation so it’s no different for other clubs than for us. ”

“We have to be realistic and responsible in the way we do our business both on and off the pitch.

“There are improvements on the training ground, stadium - we have to look at the whole picture.

“Where can we spend the money? And how much is there? It’s just the real world now. It has changed. ”

“You can look at it in different ways with a rebuild. We also have players in the academy that we now can maybe give opportunities for. ”

These are Ole's comments from his press conference yesterday. Don't expect much spending this summer.

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04 Mar 2021 07:38:23
The decision makers are lowering our expectations for transfers.
It's not like we are Burnley or Brighton working on a limited budget, we are one of the top 3 biggest revenue generating club in the world.

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04 Mar 2021 08:57:37
TrueRedDevil, the reality is that any club other than those that have mega wealthy sugar daddy owners who can just prop their team up will have suffered huge reductions in revenue over the past year and will continue to do so over the next 6 months.

18 months of lost match day revenue. For United that is around 3m for each home game. There will be at least 40 home games worth of lost revenue. So that is a ball park figure of 120m in lost revenue. Then there is a reduction in some sponsorship deals, delays in TV payments etc. It's not that much of a stretch to think that it's probably cost the club 150-180m in lost revenue.

We delayed a repayment on the loan a couple of years ago to spend the money on signings instead.

So there is repayments owed, while revenue is down somewhere between 30-50%.

I said previously that I would be surprised if we spent over 100m this summer. Going by recent comments it might be much lower than that.

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04 Mar 2021 11:29:09
Shappy it's swings and roundabouts.

We're a lot more comfortable than the vast majority of senior football clubs and a lot of them will have to move players on at a lot less than they would have received two years ago.

It sounds like the excuses are already out to me, and we're set for another summer like last year. While we could be quite astute in the transfer market and picket some bargains from clubs in financial difficulty.

That's not going to happen with the amateurs in charge but it's an opportunity we should look to take advantage of. We'll probably spend 3 months chasing Sancho and end up re-signing David Bellion.

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04 Mar 2021 11:37:58
Wazza, Clubs need to strike a balance between balancing the books and not selling the golden goose for a bag of beans.

While clubs might need to bring some money in, if they sell their best players for peanuts then they will struggle to perform and reach league finishing position targets.

Imagine if it was us, would we sell Bruno for a pittance to keep the paid if it means we almost certainly wouldn't get top four next season and therefore miss out of 30-40m next season.

It's a balancing act. I wouldn't say all clubs will sell the family silver for a cabbage.

Just look at January, the least amount spent in 10 years. I expect that to continue in the summer.

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04 Mar 2021 12:30:14
Shappy - but it's not us, and nobody mentioned swapping a player for a bag of beans or a cabbage. Again you're twisting things.

I said some clubs will need to sell players for less than they would have received two years ago. That's reasonable and expected. I don't foresee a £100m+ transfer for anybody this summer. That doesn't mean that Borussia Dortmund are going to end up with a large beanstalk growing from their pitch.

I also expect summer to be a low spending window, certainly relative to recent years.

But there will be bargains to be had due to the C.V. and we should be in a position to take advantage.

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04 Mar 2021 14:26:16
Wazza, do we need bargains or genuine top class well scouted players who'll exactly fit our need?

I think our recruitment has been an absolute shambles, and I don't think the best way to improve that is to buy players who might be out 5th or 6th choice or might not even be a genuine target at all because they are cheap or we could "take advantage" of another sides misfortune.

If a player who is first choice for a key position after months if not years of scouting is available for a reduced price then fantastic.

But if we are just buying them because they are cheap then that's a terrible way to go.

Last summer we signed DvdB because he had a buy out clause which meant we got him "cheaply" even though he wasn't our first choice or played in a similar way to our first choice.

In hindsight was the 40m we paid for him a bargain or a waste of money?

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{Ed077's Note - who told you DvdB had a buyout? I am not disputing it just that this is the first time I've heard it mentioned.

I don't care whether we pay 80m or 8m for a player as long as the player performs well for the team. And I don't care whether he was first choice or 10th as long as the signing works .}

04 Mar 2021 15:05:25
Shappy you are totally twisting what I'm saying so there's little point in having the conversation.

"a lot of them [clubs] will have to move players on at a lot less than they would have received two years ago"

What I'm saying: Clubs may accept less than they would have two years ago.
What you're hearing: We must shop in the bargain bin and offer cabbages and beans as a transfer fee.

Good grief.

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04 Mar 2021 16:52:17
Wazza, While clubs might have to accept a bit less than two years ago most clubs will have a lot less.

I guess the proof will be in the pudding, if in August the club have spent 150m+ I'll have egg on my face, if they spend less than 70m then you'll have egg on yours.

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04 Mar 2021 17:16:02
No Shappy, you're making things up again. Either that or you're just being pig ignorant.

I don't think we'll spend £150m in the summer. I'm saying that some clubs will sell players for less than they would have received two years ago. Nothing in that says we are going on a spending spree.

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04 Mar 2021 22:42:45
I am the one who believes wile will spend 150 millions. I am ready for the eggs 😄.

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04 Mar 2021 23:44:58
Investment in playing squad secondary to investment in coaching, manager and DOF in my opinion this summer. This squad is a decent one - and with a proper coaching set up could and should be a challenging for honours.

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05 Mar 2021 03:10:23
Eric79 you can't talk sense. The board is unlikely to make any drastic changes anytime soon.

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02 Mar 2021 17:01:47
Eds are you aware of any interest from mufc in Florian Neuhaus of Monchengladbach? Thanks.

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{Ed002's Note - No. Florian Neuhaus (CM) There remains significant interest in the Borussia Muenchengladbach player with Bayern Munich and Borussia Dortmund seeing him as a player who will continue to improve. Real Madrid see him as an option in midfield and his representative has made no secret that there has been interest from elsewhere including Manchester City, Spurs, Juventus and the Milanese clubs, but Milan seems a less likely destination. Borussia Dortmund will push hard for him but they have growing money issues. I am not aware of any approach by Liverpool at this time but he may offer a solution if Wijnaldum were to leave. BD interest will go ith Rose's commitment to not take players from BM.}

02 Mar 2021 19:52:13
Thanks for the info Ed.

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27 Feb 2021 08:07:05
A quick question for the Editors please.
Growing reports the club are looking to sign a RB this Summer, any truth to these or are the club content with existing options including those in the youth setup?

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{Ed002's Note - As has previously been explained the club want back up to AW-B.}

27 Feb 2021 18:30:12
Trippier would be ideal. Someone who would be preferable against sides where we are going to dominate the ball and would be reasonably cheap.

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27 Feb 2021 18:50:58
We already have a back up in williams why waste money when other positions need addressing.

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27 Feb 2021 22:49:39
They obviously don’t think Williams is good enough?

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28 Feb 2021 10:13:44
Trippier is great offensively but not so good defensively. I would rather we took a chance on oneof the youngsters to see if they can make the grade.

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28 Feb 2021 10:27:27
Personally I wouldn't be looking at a RB, with Williams and Laird on the books and AWB only being 23 it isn't an area of dying need. Plus players like Tuanzebe, Lindelof and Bailly can easily cover RB if necessary.

For me the order of priority would be CB, CDM, Creative flexible wide player, ST then back up RB.

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28 Feb 2021 13:02:38
Trippier makes sense to me as Downsie says above he offers a lot more than AWB going forward. AWB is a clone of Valencia when going forward. Trippier also has excellent delivery.

Still plenty of time for Williams and I think a loan to a PL club is needed this summer.

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{Ed077's Note - Dalot and Laird are still on the books as well as Brandon Williams. On top of that Man Utd also signed a kiddie from Barcelona, Marc Jurado. So I don't think RB should be any sort of priority until the club can decides what to do with some of the players already on the books.}

28 Feb 2021 17:44:59
Not sure what’s wrong with Dalot as a rotation?

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28 Feb 2021 19:14:01
I think Brandie is good enough never let us down.

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28 Feb 2021 21:39:16
Tuanzebe at RB? Did you watch the PSG game Shappy?
Aarons would be a great signing but I don’t imagine he wants to be anyone’s back-up.

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01 Mar 2021 06:55:07
077 we might have a number of RBs at the club but if they’re not yet ready to step up then we need reinforcements. Trippier would be a good fit for a couple of years.

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{Ed077's Note - but still the club has to first decide on what to do with the guys already at the club. You can't keep adding players without letting some go.}

01 Mar 2021 08:57:15
Spenno, Tuanzebe has played at RB on several occasions and if fairly comfortable there. On his first full start he marked a top form Alexis Sanchez out of the game from RB.

He's definitely better as a CB, but if had injury issues at RB then he can more than do a job there.

I agree with Ed077, with AWB, Dalot, Williams, Laird and Juardo on the books, all of which are special-ists RB's, along with players like Tuanzebe and Lindelof who can cover there in an emergency. I don't see RB as a high priority. We need to decide to futures of the ones we have first. Juardo is almost certainly too young and inexperienced. Laird might be best with another loan. Maybe Williams needs a loan to continue to develop. Maybe Dalot will be sold. Either way until we have answers for those questions then surely other positions need addressing first.

I don't think I'll be the only cannon here annoyed if at the start of next season we have a shiny new back up RB but no new CB, or A CDM, or a creative wide player. If we sign a back up player before we sign a player for a position of real need in the first 11 then it's just further proof of what a shambles our club is.

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01 Mar 2021 13:59:06
Agreed 077 there definitely needs to be a plan in place for the youngsters. But that shouldn't prevent us from strengthening the first team.

It would be good to see Williams and Laird out on loan next season, gaining 30+ appearances each.

I'm not sure why there's an obsession with playing players out of position just because they 'can do a job there'. Tuanzebe, Lindelof and Bailly are centre backs, not long-term solutions to the right-back position, or even competition for that position. They're cover at best.

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{Ed077's Note - right they are hardly a solution at CB lol.}

01 Mar 2021 14:34:40
Wazza, for me it's simple if we can only make 3 signings this summer, for you should a RB be one of them?

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01 Mar 2021 16:01:57
Good old Shappy moving the goal posts again 😂

No I wouldn't sign an RB if we could only make 3 signings this summer.

Likewise; Tuanzebe, Lindelof and Bailly are not right backs.

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01 Mar 2021 17:22:46
I'm not saying they are, I'm saying we have 5 special-ist RB's at the club. With AWB the undisputed first choice and will play when fit (I think he has missed less than 5% of games since he signed) . So we are really only looking for someone to play 5-8 games a season and ideally push AWB.

What I'm saying is that with 4 other RB's at the club and three CB's who can play RB if push really did come to shove. Then I think we are fine at RB and it would be a luxury signing for if and when we have signed all our first team improvements we need.

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01 Mar 2021 18:49:26
Shappy I think you’re getting confused with the number of first team RBs at the club.

AWB - nailed on as you say will play 95% of games. This is a problem. He plays this many games because there’s no real competition. If Trippier was brought in he’d offer another option against teams who sit back, which we desperately need. He and AWB could get enough game time over a full season.

Williams is not fancied, but has time.
Dalot is not fancied, but has time.

The others are kiddies.

So if Trippier is available on the cheap I’d take him as he offers a lot more than AWB going forward.

Whether it’s Trippier or someone else, we do need more threat against defensive teams than AWB is providing.

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01 Mar 2021 22:01:48
Yh people unnecessarily complicating this and not adding context.

If an experienced, relatively cheap option like trippier is available who has played at a really high level and offers something in attack that AWB clearly lacks, seems like a no brainer to me.

Especially if plans to sign a RW are being put to one side Yet again because we need to sign a striker. Something needs to start happening on the right hand side because i'm tired of just attacking solely down one side of the pitch.

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02 Mar 2021 09:19:51
In an ideal world sure I'd be signing a back up RB, I'd also be signing a CB, CDM, RW and a ST.

Probably something like Kounde, Rice, Sancho, Haaland and Trippier.

Although Trippier's current suspension for breaking gambling regulations does raise serious questions over his suitability. So maybe Max Aarons.

However, Kounde or any top CB will cost 60m+, Rice or another top CDM will cost 60m+, Sancho will be upwards of 80m, Haaland upwards of 100m, while either Trippier or Aarons would be around the 20-25m mark. So you'd be looking at 325m for a summer spend. Realistically I think we have maybe a third of that at best.

C.V. has hit every club, we have lost over 100m in match day revenue. While historically we don't spend as much when we get top 4.

The club terminated Rojo's contract in January just to save a couple of million. Two years ago they agreed a 16m deal with Everton then wanted an extra 2m so the deal collapsed. Yet now that greed for an extra 2m has become releasing an asset to save a minimal amount on wages.

That's where the club is financially. So I think 100-120m is the maximum we'll see spent this summer. So it's vital to prioritise which signings will have the biggest impact on the first team if we want to make the most ground on those above us.

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{Ed077's Note - why do you think Trippier or Aarons will be happy to be back up? Trippier was still in the England squad last time and Aarons has attracted interest from the likes of Bayern Munich, Everton at one point or another so why would he move to be a "back up" when he can move elsewhere or even stay at Norwich who are currently top of Championship and might get promoted to PL? The fact that AW-B is fit 90% of the time means even considering more rotation you are still looking at only around 1/3rd minutes to be available for the "back-up" without injury issues.

Surely the club wants a backup option not first choice player.}

02 Mar 2021 10:04:12
Ed077, I mentioned Trippier and Aarons only because they are the two most linked RB's to United at the moment.

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{Ed077's Note - I know Shaps.}

02 Mar 2021 10:42:53
Trippier wouldn't be a back up if he joined, could see him and AWB sharing game time pretty even, especially in games where we expect more attacking output from our full backs.

At the moment what incentive is there for AWB to improve considerably at the attacking part of his game? None because williams isn't going to take his place, neither is dalot who has hardly impressed at Milan.

Could easily see AWB up his game like shaw has after telles joined.

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02 Mar 2021 11:07:43
I mean if we play an average of 55-60 games a season then what we are looking for is someone to play 10-15 games a season as AWB will be expected to play 40-50 games a season without too much trouble.

Personally I think either Williams or Dalot are more than capable of that. So unless both are likely to leave I see no need to buy a new RB.

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02 Mar 2021 13:18:26
Shappy I think you're mistaken there. If we sign Trippier, AWB will get less game time, and rightly so.

AWB isn't good enough offensively to be playing 50 games a season. If we signed Trippier then AWB will make less appearances, and I'd hope two see him rise to the challenge just as Luke Shaw has.

This is of course all hypothetical, like your budget plan above.

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02 Mar 2021 13:51:21
Wazza, so what your suggesting is more similar to when we signed Zlatan to back up Rashford and Martial. The issue is then the older player often pushes the younger player out entirely which can stunt their development.

AWB has huge potential, but he won't learn anything sat on the bench.

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02 Mar 2021 14:40:44
Nonsense, Zlatan was never signed to back up rashford and martial. Clearly signed to be mourinhos starting number 9.

Also rashfords development doesn't look too stunted to me, one of the best players in his age group.

If that happens to AWB, i'd take that lol.

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02 Mar 2021 16:19:52
Shappy you don't half make things up.

Zlatan is a Mourinho player. You are saying Mourinho signed one of his favourite sons to put him on the bench? You know you don't think that. And if the more experienced player contributes more, that's good for the team. Hard lines for the younger player if they don't rise to the challenge. It just shows they don't have the minerals so they are best moved on. See Martial.

In contrast we brought Telles in and Luke Shaw's response has been incredible, but you won't use that as an example as it doesn't fit your argument.

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{Ed077's Note - Bringing Telles has meant Brandon has completely been disregarded as a LB, the position in which he broke through last season. And my point all along is I hate seeing that happen. Players' career basically being stalled due to lack of minutes. So there's not much need of a new RB until the fututres of the likes of Dalot and Laird have been addressed.}

02 Mar 2021 19:02:38
I get that sentimental point of view Ed077, but if Williams, Dalot and Laird were good enough right now they’d get more minutes.

They all need a loan at a club where they’ll play most games.

We can’t offer that at the moment, and and if a better player than the 3 of them is available and he’ll improve the squad, we should sign him. Especially in the example of Trippier who would offer something different for the next two years while the kiddies get more game time elsewhere.

Relying on one of those 3 youngsters coming good is a gamble and one we can figure out over time. If they’re good enough, they’ll make it.

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{Ed077's Note - there is no sentiment involved there Wazza. I have the same opinion on Amy players at any club. There is no point keeping in a player who will receive next to 0 minutes.

I get the feeling you aren't quite as convinced with AW-B as I am. I see him as good enough to be playing 45-50games a season and so don't think the likes of Trippier would be happy with the prospect of only 15_20 games a season.}

03 Mar 2021 12:37:39
I'm not entirely convinced by AWB Ed, no. I think he's very good in 1vs1 situations.

Going forward he's not done anything to convince me that he provides an attacking threat.

Tactically I've seen him play the opposition on side at least twice, one leading to a goal and the other needing a save from DDG to stop a certain goal.

Goes without saying I'd like to see AWB improve in those areas, and RB isn't an immediate problem area.

Additionally I like to call out Shappy on his BS 😆.

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25 Feb 2021 17:43:26
Good old paper talk, apparently we are selling Henderson and buying Donnarumma.

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{Ed077's Note - Donnarumma's contract is up this summer and he hasn't yet signed a new deal at Milan just yet. I fully expect him to sign a new deal unless something goes wrong in a massive way.

Guess who is his agent though?

It's non other than Man Utd's favourite super agent, Mino Raiola himself. Rest you can figure what's coming I would hope.}

25 Feb 2021 22:07:25
Milan having their best season in about 10 years, but if your Donnarumma you want to be winning trophies, even if he is only 22 would you be thinking I would be better off somewhere else.

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26 Feb 2021 05:48:12
Grimslives so you think he's going to come to us? We already have Henderson who is 23, knows the PL and has experience under his belt. Why would anyone in their sane mind replace him for someone outside of the PL who is talented for sure but not guaranteed to succeed. It's a huge risk.

It's all just paper talk trying to prop up United in the headlines and probably he gets a improved contract in the process.

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26 Feb 2021 08:20:24
LPU, Donnarumma has huge experience for his age and is the better keeper of the two

Henderson is a bigger risk imo. He’s not convinced he can be better than DDG yet, whereas Donnarumma probably has.

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26 Feb 2021 09:47:38
Wazza it's PL experience I am talking about. How is Henderson a bigger risk? He's already shown that he's a much better all round keeper than DeGea.

Donnarumma might have huge experience as you say but the PL is a different thing all together. Watched some youtube highlights and he doesn't look much convincing with his handling and not sure if he commands his box well and is good in the air. He reminds me of DeGea with his shot stopping ability but some times seems to parry the ball into danger areas. He probably isn't ready for the PL and has lots to improve in my opinion.

Anyone seen enough of Donnarumma to suggest he is ready for the PL?

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26 Feb 2021 12:54:12
LPU I don’t agree for a second that DH has shown he’s a better keeper than DDG.

Dave looks past his best but he was considered the best in the world. Henderson has done nothing yet to earn such praise.

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{Ed077's Note - I too dont think Dean Henderson is a better GK than DDG just yet. However it's very easy to see that DH is a better footballer than DDG and is more suited suited to the way United play nowadays.}

26 Feb 2021 14:12:36
I mean except by the looks of it be the difference between Sheffield United getting a top half finish or relegated.

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{Ed077's Note - I don't think it's fair to say DH is the sole difference between Sheffield Utd finishing in the top half last season and being rock bottom this. Ramsdale not shot ng their style of play and frankly being an inferior GK is certainly a contributing factor and so is the large number of injuries their defence has suffered. For example O'Conell being out injured for the whole of the season has unsettled their defence quite a bit and they have had to play a near retirement Jagielka fair few amount of times due to various players I defence getting injured. They are so reliant on their system and their first 11 that even 2or 3 players missing can completely make them very weak. And they have been very unlucky in most games too.

But yeah DH would most likely have helped them get a few more points I think}

25 Feb 2021 06:53:42
Certainly sounds as though several European clubs are starting to go about Summer transfer business. A question for the editors please, have United began any enquiries and in particular, has there been any contact with Dortmund again re: Sancho? Thank you.

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{Ed002's Note - Manchester United messed everybody around last year and he has again been offered elsewhere recently. If Manchester United want him they are going to have to agree a deal, primarily with his agent, before the summer. Borussia Dortmund have financial issues and they will worsen if they do not qualify for the Champions League next season. They will have a new coach next season and have chosen one who will look to develop from within and look to youngsters to bring in to work with the more experienced players, but their expectation is that they will need to raise considerable funds through selling players - and they have a lengthy list of those who will be available including the likes of Haaland and Sancho. At this point in time I do not believe that Manchester United are trying to strike a deal for the player.}

25 Feb 2021 12:41:48
Ed, do you think MU will look at Haaland this summer?

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{Ed002's Note - No, the amateurs have likely blown that chance.}

25 Feb 2021 11:00:29
So insightful Ed002 - thank you.
I can’t get my head around the fact you offer this info for free? Inspiring stuff. Are donations put into keeping the site live etc?

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{Ed033's Note - yes.

24 Feb 2021 00:06:28
Hi eds I read a couple of weeks ago on the bbc website that we were interested in raphina from leeds. Do you know if there is any truth in this. Thanks in advance

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{Ed002's Note - Raphinha (RW) Leeds are expecting offers in the summer and want Michael Olise to replace him should a significant offer be accepted. I am not aware of any approach or declaration of interest from Liverpool or Manchester United at this time.

24 Feb 2021 11:11:01
I think he would be a very good option, has a good relationship with Bruno as well from their time at Sporting apparently.

I often think we are too easily seduced by fancy names or "big money" players playing in foreign leagues, when actually there are some potentially very good options playing closer to home who could prove excellent signings. Raphinha, Ismalia Sarr, Emi Buendia and Pedro Neto have all had good seasons playing in England and would not cost half of what Sancho would while could be considered less risky as they have actually played professionally in England.

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24 Feb 2021 19:25:46
Sancho would have no problem in England imo, but I don't think he's the right player for us and if he doesn't hit the ground running the pressure from the media will weigh heavy on him.

I really like neto he will be a top player for years to come, if we were to spend decent money on a winger I don't think we should look past him.

I watch a lot of wolves as they were my grandads team and he impresses me more everytime I see him play. Its only a matter of time before he get a move to a top team.

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25 Feb 2021 09:46:39
Danny, I don't think Sancho would have an issue moving back home to England. I mean it's his home country after all, so he won't have issues like language, or culture barriers that can make it difficult for other players.

I don't for one second believe his current numbers of goals and assists would be as high in the EPL as they are in the Bundesliga. At least not initially, maybe in a few years when he really starts to fulfill his potential. Ultimately the quality of defending in the EPL is far superior to the Bundesliga.

However, for me while I think he would stylistically he would be a good fit. I'm not sure that we can afford to spend 80m+ which it will cost to sign him. In my opinion we need a top class CB and a CDM. Those two positions will cost us the best part of 100m if not more. If there is money for a third signing them I doubt it'll be enough for Sancho. So for me signing Sancho means comprising on the signings that we really need.

I also really rate Pedro Neto, I think if someone doesn't snap him up soon then he'll be a 70m+ signing in two years time.

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{Ed077's Note - Isn't Pedro Neto an LW who can play RW. Man Utd are better off going for an RW/RM who can cover other positions not the other way round.}

25 Feb 2021 10:36:15
Ed077, Neto is comfortable right across the frontline, at No.10 and even as a No.8. He tends to play on the left for Wolves more often than not because Adama Traore and Daniel Podence play best off the right, and in Traore's case can only really play off the right.

However, I see Neto's flexibility and comfortability on either wing or as a No.10 as a huge benefit. It would allow us to sign a player who can play on thr right but without stifling Amad or Greenwood who'd also look to get minutes. While he can cover Rashford on the left if we either needed to rest him or play him as a striker. He's better than James and more consitent on the left than Martial. He is also capable of playing in the No.10 role to a high level giving us a genuine option to play and rest Bruno.

Very few players can play to a high standard, score and create goals from both wings or the No.10 position with near equal impact in all three positions.

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{Ed077's Note - So what you are saying is Neto is a LW who is very versatile and can play on the right or through the middle. Neto, no doubt has been really impressive this season but he is (or has been) playing mainly as a LW.

Man Utd has a first choice LW whose primary position is LW but is versatile enough to cover at RW or CF, in Rashford. It would then make more sense in going after a player whose best position is off the right hand side but can cover other positions ideally. For example Raphinha at Leeds.
But that's just my opinion.}

25 Feb 2021 14:41:10
Ed077, Raphinha would also be a great option.

Pedro Neto before moving to Wolves has played primarily on the RW, or as a second striker, similar to Joao Felix. But at Wolves due to them having Podance and Traore who almost exclusively play RW, and with Jota leaving the obvious gap in the first team was on the left at Wolves which is where he has tended to play.

So far this season he has played on the left 11 times.
On the right 5 times.
as a striker 4 times.
as a No.10 on 3 occasions.
And as a No.8 twice.

So very versatile. To be honest with what will likely be a limited budget this summer we are unlikely to be able to buy a wide player, a back up for Bruno and a striker. Yet signing someone like Neto who can play most positions with little to no drop off in performance would mean we are stronger across the front line by only signing one player.

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{Ed077's Note - Jota was replaced in the wolves side , by Neto which led to his sale. Not the other way around. Neto had 8 senior career appearances before moving to Wolves so your conclusion about him being a RW primarily before signing for Wolves is frankly untrue because of the sheer lack of game time.

Neto is having a really good season and might be a really good player for Man Utd to look at but he has played more times at LW than RW which is a fact yours "stats" back up Shaps.}

25 Feb 2021 20:45:43
Sarr and Buendia drew so much laughter when they were suggested last season. Are they any more desirable now after a year in the Championship? Buendia by all accounts is doing well but Sarr doesn’t seem to be setting it alight.

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26 Feb 2021 10:43:15
Spenno, Buendia is probably the best player in the championship this season and a big reason for Norwich being 7 points clear at the top currently. He is 100% good enough for the EPL, although most people on here could probably guess that I'd say that.

Sarr has been solid if unspectacular, on balance of play he has probably been Watford's best player. Currently they sit 3rd 7 points off of top spot.

Ultimately though football is a team game and many aspects of that will impact how effect a player can be within that team.

I think Sarr has the ability to step up in a better team. Is he good enough for us? You'll never know unless he gets given the chance. We've signed top players who have flopped and young unknowns who have become stalwarts of the side.

If I'm honest I wouldn't have either of Buendia or Sarr as first choice if money was no object. But the reality is that we are going to have to be clever with our money this summer and prioritise positions other than RW. In that situation then putting talented players who are already settled in England and tested in the EPL makes a lot of sense, especially as they will be half the price of a Jadon Sancho, or proven in the EPL and less injury prone than a Ousemane Dembele or Kingsley Coman and would significantly less on wages.

In an ideal world we would make 4-5 signings and all of them would be top class players. Jules Kounde, Declan Rice, Jadon Sancho, Erling Haaland and a top RB.

The reality is we might be able to afford 1 or 2 of those players and maybe 1 or 2 cheaper alternatives to those players if we are lucky. So it all comes down to who we can get, and which positions we prioritise.

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