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20 Jan 2020 12:13:13
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20 Jan 2020 09:40:00
Hi ed do the club see cavani as an option?

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{Ed002's Note - It would be a terrible mistake and he wants to move elsewhere.}

20 Jan 2020 10:34:36
Ed, with the injury to Rashford is there any new players that we are now looking at since your last update?

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{Ed002's Note - Because a player is injured for a few weeks clubs do not normally change their transfer plans.}

20 Jan 2020 10:58:08
Thanks Ed.

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20 Jan 2020 11:31:04
isn't he out for around 3 months.

time for martial to step up now.

hopefully greenwood gets more game time.

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19 Jan 2020 14:44:07
I see we’ve been linked to Luis Campos in the media this weekend. This would be a great move in my opinion, someone to give clear direction and strategy to the football side of things.

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19 Jan 2020 14:54:24
Its Utds PR in over drive. Whenever a big game comes up or a loss these stories are leaked. Don't be fooled by it its nonsense. It doesn't take 18 months to appoint a DOF like Campos.

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19 Jan 2020 17:20:57
Or maybe it does.

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19 Jan 2020 18:37:05
Didnt Campos say in an interview in November 2019 that he was keen to link up with Jose at Spurs as he considers him his brother.
He was also critical of the United hierarchy and its lack of support of Jose while he was our manager, doesn't sound like someone who was looking to join us.

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19 Jan 2020 21:05:08
Grim he did also say United would be an attractive prospect to work on. I see him at Spurs too though.

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18 Jan 2020 15:47:07
ED002,
Are United again being amateurish with the Bruno Fernandes deal?

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{Ed002's Note - It depends whether they really want to sign him or look again at otehr AM options. If you end up negotiating from too far apart you are wasting your time. Or if you are looking to leverage the position where it is thought that the other club need the money and you low-ball the offer one can expect no more than a shrug.}

18 Jan 2020 16:05:53
Are United still using their transfer policy from the 90s because they think that the so called smaller clubs need the money, whilst forgetting that TV money has changed the transfer game.

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18 Jan 2020 16:16:44
There's your answer. Joke.

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18 Jan 2020 16:29:59
Thanks ED002. Sounds like both parties need to be more realistic.

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{Ed002's Note - Why do Sporting need to change anything?}

18 Jan 2020 17:10:50
His value by Sporting is his value simple as that, don't like the value then leave it. Yeah haggle by up to a few million here and there, but your never going to be haggling over 10-20million no chance.

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18 Jan 2020 17:24:35
Time wasting exercise. Then there's no more time to conclude other deals. Clever by the idiots in charge at our club.

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18 Jan 2020 17:28:55
Absolute shambles, pay the fee or walk away! The club was willing to pay £50 mill for Fred! Something seriously wrong with the club transfer policy!

Salt to the wounds. Haaland just scored 4 goals on his debut.

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18 Jan 2020 18:41:23
I'd forgot he has only signed a new contract. The ball is firmly in Sportings court.

I wonder if we will hear, there's no value in the transfer window this year.

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{Ed002's Note - why is it in their court.}

18 Jan 2020 18:52:54
Shappy will be busy now writing his essay telling us the club are right to not be held to ransom and we can’t moan every time we don’t sign a player.
However the paper thin squad will be even weaker and I will have to continue to watch the utter crap the Lingard and Pereira produce.
We won’t splash the cash for Fernandes so who thinks we will pay more for Maddison or Grealish in the summer?
Mediocrity at its best.

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18 Jan 2020 19:00:13
Think he means that sporting are firmly in charge and hold all the cards. He's right. Ed002 as alway you are 100% correct, we are amateurish in so many ways and I'm sure it's pitting off others from doing future business with us.

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{Ed002's Note - Perhaps the terminology was the issue.}

18 Jan 2020 19:35:32
As Ed002 has said previously, United fans have caused an issue in the past which have forced the club to change plans (Van Gaal) .

I'd imagine if we fail to land Fernandes, there would be a pretty big backlash from fans over the potential lack of additions which we clearly need.

He is the kind of player we really need and it shows how atrocious the scouting and judging of talent is at United that we were seem to value Fernandes lower than Fred.

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18 Jan 2020 20:03:37
Ed002. I've been working 12hr nights.
My terminology was wrong. Do you see a deal still being done?

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{Ed002's Note - It is dependent up Manchester United making an acceptable offer - if they do not wish to do that it will be difficult. If they put a sensible offer on the table something can be done. So the ball is in Manchester United’s court.}

19 Jan 2020 00:20:53
Seems to be some spin being leaked that we are only willing to offer what they feel spurs had accepted last year, plus a slight increase off back of good season.

With the income utd have, they are always going to get charged top dollar for any player they buy. It is part of the trickle down of money.

But in this circumstance, Sporting signed a new contract with the player. Which impacts his value. I think it is a pretty low risk transfer for a player that has the skills we need. Compared to some transfer values it is not outrageous to pay straight up $50m with $20m in reasonable add ons (international appearances, ucl qualification etc)

I hope they get it done. If no-one comes in at all it could have a negative impact across the club and supporters. This one signing could easily galvanise a top 4 push.

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19 Jan 2020 08:48:51
I can see us offering an extra 2 million at half time v Liverpool when we are 3-0 down.

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19 Jan 2020 12:39:08
Don’t blame Utd for backing off if it’s true that a fee was agreed then upped a few days later.
Fans moan if we get had over transfers then moan if we don’t pay top dollar, can’t win.

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19 Jan 2020 13:59:05
Ed002 - Do you agree the Bruno clearly wants to leave? My understanding from my journalist friends is that he is. If so, I remember your point of view that if a player wants to leave (Pogba) then the club should be realistic in their expectations of the selling price. Surely, sporting can demand what they like and United fo that too for Pogba. Hopefully sense prevails but that is not a given whatsoever.

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{Ed002's Note - why do you think Sporting are being unrealistic? They are dealing with amateurs.}

19 Jan 2020 14:15:37
The deal will get done - Man utd trying to save a few million - Sporting want to extract a few million more - but at end of day if reports are to believed the boy wants to come - patience.

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19 Jan 2020 14:44:05
I own something, you want it, you pay my price however ridiculous it may seem to you and anyone else. It's up to you. Walk away if you don't like it. No skin of my nose.

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19 Jan 2020 15:45:04
Ed002 - actually don’t know whether Sporting are unrealistic but it looks like there are not too many other clubs in it for them to really benefit. They are well within their rights not to sell for anything less than they value him but so are United with Pogba.

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{Ed002's Note - Sure - let Pogba see his contract out. He has bveen great this year.}

19 Jan 2020 19:54:39
How does a club decide on what to bid for a player, is there a formula that takes into account age, current contract, desperation, marketing value etc?

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{Ed002's Note - There is no formula or algorithm.}

20 Jan 2020 11:17:34
I read that united didn't want to play top dollar for Bruno because this would effect us going for Maddison and putting his price up too.

are united at risk of going foul on FFP? and is this impacting recent transfers?

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{Ed002's Note - I would not expect Fernandes and Maddison and it is nothing to do with FFP.}

20 Jan 2020 11:32:31
grimisnotdead

united conduct a number generator on google when deciding what to offer.

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18 Jan 2020 13:34:34
So the story out now is that utd are prepared to walk away if sporting don't lower their price. Why does it feel like every transfer is a saga for utd? It's so boring a bit like Brexit.

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18 Jan 2020 13:46:14
Absolute sham. Just pay the asking price or near enough. We are in no place to be haggling over this deal.

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18 Jan 2020 14:06:14
It’s a saga because the media make it one. Both Sporting and Utd are well within their rights to have views on his value. My guess is that we are scarred by our recent failures in the market wasting millions on dross.

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18 Jan 2020 14:29:24
He obviously wants to leave and utd are probably using this to get the price down, maybe they should ask him to put in transfer request? after all we are always screwed when it comes to selling players, I have no isuue with us trying to lower the price.

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18 Jan 2020 14:44:33
This is a tactic we've used in previous windows. In the summer we signed Wan Bisaka and James fairly early on. Then we went onto Maguire. Leicester said 80 million and we said no. Dragged out for the whole summer and we eventually stump up the cash for him a few days before the window closed.

If we had of signed Maguire early in the window there would have been pressure to complete another signing or two. We delayed and delayed beacsue as long as we are "negotiating" we look like we're proactive. We sign Maguire late on and everyone is just relieved that we got it over the line.

Fast forward to this window. We've known we need recruitments in January. We've known the player is willing to come and we've know Sportings stance on the matter. Same again, if we sign him January 2nd, there is pressure to sign another few players in this window. But we will drag it out another week, stump up the cash Sporting want and then we will "run out of time" to complete any other signings.

Fans are happy because we have signed what looks like a very good player. Board are praised but in reality this should have been done earlier and maybe another addition or two added to give Ole a fighting chance at top 4.

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18 Jan 2020 14:49:13
It's the line united are leaking to their media buddies that annoys me'united aren't willing to overpay' BS we overpay for pretty much everyone not only in fees but wages also. Be prepared for no Bruno but a 5 year deal for jesse on 250k a week.

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18 Jan 2020 15:00:00
The most laughable thing is the list of excuses being doled out by the club, too expensive, don't want to affect future transfers, focused on the summer etc etc. Yet we all know come the summer there won't be a plan, negotiations won't have started, we will employ the same tactics and scattergun approach and end up short again. They really must think we are thick and will swallow whatever crap they serve up.

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18 Jan 2020 15:24:21
Your slipping again Ni. 😂😂😂.

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18 Jan 2020 15:39:06
Apologies Ken. 😂.

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18 Jan 2020 15:51:14
I don't believe we will get this deal done. In fairness to the club though it seems that Sporting are being an absolute disaster and keep asking for more. You can guarantee he will be playing Tuesday.

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18 Jan 2020 17:21:44
I just dnt understand why people would be happy with us paying 80 mil for a 50 mil footballer? Look at the stick Maguire gets on here, imagine we pay 80 and bruno doesn't hit the ground running? All the usual nonsense about overpaying would be out in full force.

Also the ed says sporting are doing nothing wrong, why are we doing it wrong? We have a valuation, they have a valuation 🤷‍♂️.

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18 Jan 2020 18:49:10
But Deano, it's not that we should pay more than we want, it's that we should have known from the get go that we were too far away in valuation.

In the summer we couldn't agree to a fee. He then signs a new contract and we go back in January with the same derisory bid. It's just not good business. And also insulting Sporting by having add ons like "player winning balon d'or", "United winning the champions league".

If the valuation is that far apart, move on and try and sign someone else. But no, we'll drag this out the whole window and then either pay exactly what sporting want (cementing our image as a club that will simply pay up) or we will let it fade out and the team will continue to struggle without reinforcements.

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18 Jan 2020 18:53:37
We are desperate for players, every club knows this, until we build a good squad and have depth and we’re in a position where we are not in desperate need for players, we will pay over the odds! When we have most players and not in great need of signing but an addition would help we will be in a better position to negotiate better prices. We get stung by everyone.

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18 Jan 2020 19:35:04
Deano, why is he a 50 mil footballer? Who makes that determination. surely the selling club?

Couldn't care less what we pay for a player as long as he's good.

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19 Jan 2020 12:57:24
If it’s that boring then there is a way to just not look at it? It’s only boring because you’re following it from start to finish and reading twitter and this site, turn your phone off, enjoy your life and have a look on 31st January if we signed anyone. You can’t do something you don’t have to do then moan that it’s boring.

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19 Jan 2020 17:25:07
Its a saga because the media make it thay way - man utd are still the biggest show in town and sell the most papers.

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18 Jan 2020 11:32:38
So it looks like we have triggered a two year extension for Eric Bailly. What's everyones thoughts on him - would be good to get the Eds perspective too. Came to the club and looked awesome.

injuries have obviously played a serious part in hampering his progress, but he now looks like a headless chicken when he plays. Can't work it out.

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18 Jan 2020 12:01:33
Hopefully keeping him means rojo, jones and smalling are gone. Leave bailly tuanzebe lindelof and maguire. Happy enough if that's the case.

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18 Jan 2020 12:07:52
First season he was brilliant. Great defender. Looked like a top CB. Injuries have hampered his progress.
If he can stay fit, he could work very well with Maguire.

If imagine he might end up getting sold in the near future.

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18 Jan 2020 13:34:16
I think he deserves another chance.

Let him recover from the injury and give him another season but he needs a run of games.

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18 Jan 2020 13:45:32
For me he was better first than Maguires up to now.

There definitely a play in him.

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18 Jan 2020 13:47:12
I'd play him next to Harry M, when fit.

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18 Jan 2020 10:05:05
Bruno Fernandes saying farewell. again. He's fine more farewell tours than Elton John.

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18 Jan 2020 11:14:44
According to Simon Stone we have told sporting that unless they drop the fee the deal is dead. €80mill is a lot but our arrogance in negotiations probably doesn't help when dealing with anyone. The scenes if we get battered on Sunday and don't sign Bruno 😱😵😡.

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18 Jan 2020 12:26:07
This feels just like the Harry Maguire deal the same Simon stone reported we was miles apart on valuation for Maguire, 2 days later we announced him.

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18 Jan 2020 12:46:27
Could well be. Maybe announced after tomorrow's game if it all goes badly. Distract the fans etc 😂.

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18 Jan 2020 15:04:35
Ni you are slipping into old habits again. bruno on the brain😂😂😂.

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17 Jan 2020 19:22:36
Are we still looking for a striker ed?

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{Ed002's Note - The problem at the moment is there are more clubs looking for strikers than there are strikers available. If the right one comes up it is possoble, else they will look again leading up to the summer.}

17 Jan 2020 20:31:47
Is there a particular type of striker we are looking at Ed?

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{Ed002's Note - Must be over 5 ft 5 inches.}

17 Jan 2020 20:54:38
And have a left and a right leg.

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17 Jan 2020 21:05:43
Makes sense ed, the pool seems to be thinning yet the clubs dining at the top table continues to grow, I imagine that is why a raft of clubs are looking toward their academy's.

Thanks 👍.

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17 Jan 2020 21:11:48
😂😂😂.

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18 Jan 2020 11:20:01
What would the thoughts be of bringing in cavani for 2 seasons? Good pro, work horse, goal scorer and at 32 is just nearing the end of his time at the top!

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18 Jan 2020 12:11:24
100%.

DDG
AWB Koulibaly Maguire Williams
McTom Pogba
Greenwood Bruno Rashford
Cavani

Would be a huge step up and something that I genuinely believe is attainable for next season. Lindelof, Tuanzebe, Fred, James, Martial etc rotating in, we’d be in a much stronger place.

Unfortunately I don’t think those in the club want to go in that direction.

Money isn’t an issue - with the players Ole has moved out of the club, we are saving over £1m per week.

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20 Jan 2020 05:34:46
Isn't Cavani off to Atletico Madrid. Apparently he has requested to leave PSG.

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17 Jan 2020 13:57:02
Looks like the bruno deal is coming along quite nicely according to various outlets, yet I will ask the Oracle instead.

Ed002 is there a chance this deal will be completed?

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{Ed002's Note - Subject to agreement being reached, yes.}

17 Jan 2020 14:41:39
😂😂😂 Ed002 has been consistent on this all along, it's down to us to agree a fee. Can our master negotiators manage it? We shall see.

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17 Jan 2020 15:48:01
£43 million up front with £17 million in add ons and £120,000 a week wages.
To me that looks like a fairly decent deal from our side.
Took long enough though 🤣.

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17 Jan 2020 16:31:56
Where have you got that info from 2toms?

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17 Jan 2020 16:58:41
Cheers ed, made my night 👍.

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17 Jan 2020 17:42:29
No inside info I’m afraid TopBomin. Just on a few reports I’ve seen. Could be absolute nonsense but would be a good deal if true.

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17 Jan 2020 17:42:29
No inside info I’m afraid TopBomin. Just on a few reports I’ve seen. Could be absolute nonsense but would be a good deal if true.

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{Ed002's Note - Twitter on assumes.}


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