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23 May 2026 19:03:17
Ed, I posted an objection to a post by Unruly below re his support of Palestine. This is no place to discuss such things. Yet his pro Palestine post is published but my objection is not. Why?

{Ed007's Note - Calm down sweetheart

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23 May 2026 20:13:48
Free Palestine forever and always!

23 May 2026 20:33:32
Fizz sometimes objectivity should allow to speak. What's happening to Palestinians is a disgusting travesty. I don't believe that's a political statement but a humanitarian one.

23 May 2026 21:17:19
Am I missing something here? Last time I checked there were no significant youth prospects coming out of Palestine or in fact the entire region, why is this even a topic for the football threads.

Seen a lot of coverage and definitely not enough footballs on the streets out there.

Football brings harmony amongst enemies, until it doesn't.

{Ed001's Note - are you being serious? Their football prospects are being massacred in a genocide and you come out with this shite? Tone deaf.}

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{Ed007's Note - For legal reasons we aren't allowed to post idiots made up lies... sorry, not sorry...

24 May 2026 00:44:24
I agree we should follow the same rules as the Olympics and Football generally. Let's keep politics off the page, unless it's related to Man Utd.

{Ed001's Note - neither of which ignore politics, they just only pay obeisance to who pays them.}

23 May 2026 23:30:00
I have never been serious in my life Ed.

I disagree with the whole concept of the neverending conflict from both sides. I disagree with the concept of war as a whole.

As I say, more footballs required.

{Ed001's Note - both sides? There is only one side that is the problem. If you don't like it, shut up and scroll past.}

24 May 2026 07:01:23
I actually don't see the issue with what I wrote.

I am well aware of the atrocities occurring.

I brought it back to football. What is the problem?

{Ed001's Note - omg like I said you are tone deaf.}

24 May 2026 08:17:35
#FreeKobbie.

24 May 2026 09:29:49
Very worrying that you don't see an issue with what you put there, Jimbob.

24 May 2026 09:42:51
It's no surprise Sepp.

24 May 2026 10:47:04
"From both sides" is easy to say when you're nowhere near it.

I know people who travelled out to bring aid and they came home traumatised within 36 hours from what they saw.

Football won't fix war crimes or human suffering. And trying to reduce it to banter or balance points is honestly grim.

I'm Catholic — I know prejudice exists. But innocent civilians suffering should never be mentioned in a sentence with a team sport.

24 May 2026 10:52:56
Ed001 delighted to see this from you. Loved and contributed to this page for years and love it even more now.

DonRed, fantastic post mate.

24 May 2026 13:29:56
I'm sure if this site was around during the 1930's there would have been people saying we shouldn't be posting about that is happening in Germany politically at the time.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but not all opinions are equally valid. While the Ed's on here also have to make sure they tread a careful line about what is and isn't allowed to be posted for both liable reasons and to maintain civility on the site.

What is happening in Palestine right now and has been for decades is an absolute disgrace, and a stain on humanity. Unfortunately, much of the mainstream media have connections to Israel and as such have been shameful in their reporting on the topic, this along with a western bias against Muslims means that we have been woefully misinformed by the mainstream media. However, with the rise in social media and more independent forms of media what is happening their is finally being brought to light in the way it should have been for decades.

The biggest problem humanity has with issues like this is the tendency to attach ourselves to what is familiar. We judge from a position of subconscious bias rather than just on the pure morality of the situation. Meaning too many people won't speak out against something if the perpetrators are seen as more familiar to them than the victims.

Fortunately younger generations seem to be bucking that trend in the most part, which is at least a small silver lining.

24 May 2026 15:07:57
Thanks, ED001. Really appreciate that you ensure that these boards aren't completely shut off from politics and real world problems.

Sport doesn't exist in a vacuum, and the only people that benefit from pretending that it does are the ones doing horrific things or profiting from those that do.

24 May 2026 16:29:24
I didn't realise my post elicited so much reaction. Judging from some of these posts, I can't help but feel we have lost empathy for those suffering.

24 May 2026 16:40:56
Your post was so inoffensive that the only reason someone would possibly kick up a fuss is that they want to live in an echo chamber so insulated that the thought of their world view being called into question never even crosses their mind.

24 May 2026 18:56:59
Anybody who has seen or even read about the atrocities happening and claims to have seen plenty of footage and comes to a dumbass conclusion that there is not enough people playing football on the streets in Palestine is pretty stupid and lacks any sort of understanding or decency imo I'm not one bit surprised on this occasion.
No matter what your political persuasion is its one of the most disgusting thinks I've read on these pages and shows a complete lack of class.

Take your head out of the sand. Dear oh dear.
I agree that this is not usually a page for politics but I think the eds were right on this occasion to highlight the total and complete disregard of common human decency.
I would suggest persecuted homeless starving people have other other priorities right now other than a game of footie.

25 May 2026 01:43:55
Maybe you are aware of the Christmas Truce during WW1, maybe you are not.

I appreciate that my comment has caused concern, but it was not intended to.

What is happening is awful and of course it is heartbreaking to see. I have no words to make it better, and probably should have articulated it better, or as the Eds suggested, said nothing at all.

I have no political leaning whatsoever as one suggested, and I see conflict as a colossal waste of human life.

I'm sorry if I caused offence to anyone.

23 May 2026 17:41:15
Well done to Hull, they deserve it. The last 10 was madness, backwards and sideward passes for Boro.

Put the ball in the box. I was screaming, and when they did, it went out for a GK.

Who's doing the predictions this year?

23 May 2026 19:54:16
Great for them. Poor game, though, imo. They will do well to get more points than Wolves did this season in the EPL, imo.

23 May 2026 20:29:40
They will be favourites to go down. A remarkable turnaround from last year, but it shows the vagaries of the play offs. They snuck into 6th, having lost 15 league games, but the knockout games have got them to the EPL. Well done to them, but they will be straight back down. Good luck to Stockport tomorrow.

24 May 2026 05:27:33
This is particularly for the hard to understand souls: whichever Alta ego they use, both factors heavily influence standings, but in distinctly different ways. A high wage bill is the single strongest statistical predictor of Premier League success, as it directly reflects a club's ability to attract elite talent and depth.

A large supporter base indirectly affects standings by driving the massive revenues required to sustain those top-tier wage budgets.

24 May 2026 10:02:27
11 times in 33 years the team with the highest wage bill has won the EPL.
The biggest predictor of success in the EPL is the amount of points you win, closely followed by the amount of goals you score, and thirdly the amount of goals you concede.
The only time the best supported team wins the EPL is when United win it.


I think every year United have had the best attendance, but not won it for over 10 years.
Usually money talks to some degree, but is not the major deciding factor. More often than not, the team that has the best coaching wins.

24 May 2026 15:15:39
I am so glad to hear you are better informed than AI, which is exactly where that cut and paste comes from, so forgive me if I take more notice of that than you...

24 May 2026 18:00:27
If you ask AI to give you the details of the 3 men that started the Aer Lingus airline, it will spit out 3 profiles.
But only 2 men started the company, but because you asked for 3, it will give you 3 profiles. AI is not a definitive source, and needs to be treated with levels of doubt.


AI gave me the 11-times stat. I double-checked it and got nothing to contradict the fact that the highest wage bill has only won the EPL 1/3 of the time, and indeed the biggest spenders the summer before have only won the league on 8 occasions, again according to AI.

23 May 2026 17:17:54
Lots of talk on signings but who are we going to sell?
Rasmus Malacia and Cas are gone for sure. Probably Rashford.
I think the club would like to sell Onana Zirkzee and Ugarte and would probably be hoping for offers on Mount and Maz.
I think they could possibly consider good offers on a couple of others if they come in such as Dalot or possibly Martinez, but I don't think they are actively looking to sell either.
Quite possible we will see a total of 8 or 9 leave.
If it was the 1st 9 mentioned above only Cas made a meaningful contribution this season.
I really hope this is the summer that they finally clear the decks of those not making enough contribution or not good enough when called on.
If those 9 go its leaves Mainoo as the most in fact only senior and most experienced midfielder at the club.


Assuming Bruno is at 10.
God knows how much that 9 will generate in fees.
Cas Malacia are zero.
70m or so for Rasmus and Rash.
If we get 100-130m for Mount Zirkzee Ugarte Maz and Onana we'll be doing well.
We will be we'll stocked numerically with defenders but very short on good ones. 1 midfielder. 1 no 10, 2 lw Cunha and Dorgu 2 rw Mbeumo and Amad. 1 cf Sesko.
A couple are multi functional like Cunha can move to 10 or Dorgu to lb.
For me that central area is key a cb 2 cm minimum and a cf after that full backs for me.
We might get a breakout from the academy in Lacey or Amass Leon you never know.

23 May 2026 17:41:32
I think we will spend quite a bit and surprise people. I think the recruiting people know what they are doing, have a clear plan, and I'm personally very relaxed about the whole thing, ins and outs.

Assuming 55/60 games next year, we will need a big squad with depth.

23 May 2026 17:49:33
Can't see Maz going, and Mount, I'd imagine, will stay too. Zirkzee, Ugarte, Onana, I reckon, will get us somewhere in the 50-60M range.
The 70M you mentioned then, plus another 100M, and that's the budget of 220M. Possibly up to 250M.
We need at least 4 or 5 signings - maybe more. Noises from reputable journalists are that a statement signing may happen. So that's likely in the 100M range.

Then we've 3 players in the 40-50M range to go for. A lot can be done for that. It makes sense we're linked with Ederson, as he falls into that range. Apparently Bremer is being targeted too. Then it's a full back and another CM. If we get a striker, I'd expect them to be a low transfer fee option. I doubt the LW target (Diomande) will happen unless the club looks at it as a special circumstance.

23 May 2026 16:57:01
Ederson €50 to replace Urgarte, his contract is up in 2027. Fernandes from West Ham to replace Cas, probably closer to €70. Be 2 very good players to start our spending. Cas, Sancho, Hojlund and Ty all gone, need to sell Rashford, Onana, Bayinder, Urgarte, Zirkzee and maybe a few more. I think we keep Mount, good attitude, worker and English for the quota.

Think we need to strengthen at the back, we leaked 50 goals this season and 100s of chances too. This has to improve next season. Hopefully Heaven and Yoro continue to improve, Deligt had the op, hopefully that fixes his long standing back issue and Martinez needs to get back to his best.

23 May 2026 19:59:58
Might fix his back, but what about the rest of the glass man, did he not also miss months previously from shoulder too .


Martinez is just nowhere near what's needed, I am totally shocked that anyone thinks he is what's needed for a top 4 club as CB in EPL
I love to hear the Ed's opinions of Martinez as CB in EPL and if they think he would get in any top 4 side in the EPL?

23 May 2026 11:14:18
Morgan Rogers, papers linking us to him.

What do you guys think? Yes or no?

Think he's really good, but reckon we need a lw who holds the width, and is quick. Unless we sign a lb who can bomb forward, similar to Nuno Mendes.

24 May 2026 10:48:44
Will there be any budget left... I'm sure we need to fix our cm first, and if Shaw can stay fit, I don't see why we can't shoehorn Dorgu, like Spurs did with Bale.

24 May 2026 13:32:59
Love him as a player, but far too similar to Cunha to be a serious signing for me. He would be very expensive, but doesn't offer anything different. Just a squad depth option.

For me, big money signings should either be for guaranteed first-choice options, or top-quality youth players who offer something slightly different to what we have.



Rodgers doesn't do either, so I'd rather us spend the money elsewhere.

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23 May 2026 11:12:38
Good point on Ndiaye Ed, not looked the same since coming back from Afcon, same as Mbeumo and Amad.

On a side note, looks like we're close to signing Ederson from Atalanta, thoughts on him? Not seen him much myself.

{Ed001's Note - I like him a lot, would have gladly taken him at Liverpool, he is a very good combative midfielder. An Ugarte upgrade.}

23 May 2026 19:49:20
Thanks Ed, not too bad then, a terrible signing according to the twitter experts.

Seems as if Mateus Fernandes is on his way here too, know you're not a fan of him. Really want Baleba here despite his poor season, but seems to be quiet on that front

{Ed001's Note - I am glad I don't use twatter.}

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23 May 2026 07:39:01
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23 May 2026 06:59:02
It’s looking likely that Ederson will be our first signing of the summer. Have not seen much of him so what does everyone think?

23 May 2026 07:53:37
Watched Atlanta the other day on TV v Milan just because of him, and he scored after 7 mins, so therefore I can only assume he is the best CM in the world. Seriously, though, he looks, from what I've seen since we were linked, athletic, breaks up play, and reads the game well.

I guess a better version of Ugarte. Profile is exactly what we need. My only concern is he's fairly cheap for today's fees, and there doesn't seem to be clubs climbing over each other to sign him, but we have to trust this new recruitment team.

23 May 2026 11:08:39
I've never watched him, no idea. But his name has been in the mix for a while now, so I can only think that he has been heavily scouted.

Look, going by last year's window, you have to put your faith in Vivell and co to get it right again.

£35m too tells me that he is a squad member rather than a guaranteed starter right now, which points to us probably spending more on other targets.

23 May 2026 11:11:36
He had been great for Atlanta over the years. He excelled under their previous coach, with his high intensity pressing game.
Very good technically.
EPL is a different sport practically, so whether he can make the transition is anybody's guess.
Based on what I've seen of him, I'd be optimistic.

23 May 2026 11:49:15
He only has a year left on his contract and that is also part of the reason his price is where it is. We have been interested in him 2/3 years now.

23 May 2026 12:10:14
If he comes, he will be a starter, imo. I'm not sure price dictates how often you start.
We do need 2 or even 3 players for cm, and they will all start plenty of games. If they only get 2 in, plus Mainoo, it gives 3 players for 2 positions, so all will be starters regularly in a 60 game season.


Working on the assumption Ugarte leaves.
If they only sign 2, they'll need cover from the academy/reserves to fill the 4th spot on the squad.

23 May 2026 14:27:42
Ederson, Joao Gomes, Mateus Fernandes, Alex Scott, Elliot Anderson, Tonali. Those are the main names I've seen linked. The last two are biggest money. Tbh, if we get any two of that list, I'll be happy, as it'll be a big improvement on what we have.

23 May 2026 20:04:37
I would take Bruno G and Tonali from Newcastle without a doubt.
Then buy a decent CB, experienced with pace, then a starting, experienced striker, full of pace. That would do me for this window.

I would only look at players that could get into the top 4 sides, and all with experience, something which we seriously lack.

24 May 2026 10:55:15
Hope you're right, Ken. And you're right, price doesn't dictate it at all, don't even know why I said that looking back at it.

But I am happy to see us try to remedy the cm quickly if reports are anything to go by.

22 May 2026 20:27:14
Anyone for Toney as the backup striker role?

22 May 2026 22:41:29
Maybe Peterborough or Southampton.

23 May 2026 00:21:21
He's on about £400,000 per week, tax free, as a basic at Al-Ahli.

Can't really think he would want to give that up for a backup role.

23 May 2026 02:11:49
Let's see after the World Cup. There was talk he wanted out of Saudi. So, I think, if that is true, he has already accepted a reduced salary.

23 May 2026 04:04:35
Think there are huge tax consequences for him returning to UK.

23 May 2026 04:05:01
Besides, we need a starting striker not a back up.

23 May 2026 04:28:35
Jsu, I disagree. You fix the midfield and defence, and get crosses into Sesko. He is a 20-25 goal a season striker.

23 May 2026 04:51:45
I hope you're right, but I just don't see it. He lacks a striker's brain, imo, never seems to gamble and never seems to be in the right place. That can be seen by the more experienced players forever telling him during a match where to run, where to go.

He seems to lack that badly... He is a long way from being main man at United if we want to win anything.

23 May 2026 07:14:59
Kroupi seems to be the most wanted striker in the Premier League at the moment, so I can see him being very expensive.

There seem to be few options ready from the academy, so maybe we will go for someone like Lewandowski on a free.

23 May 2026 07:59:05
German, I think that is an area he will develop, though, and a reason why people want an experienced striker to help him. He's actually a better football player than I thought, and, through experience, I think he'll become a top striker.

His attitude, from what I have read only recently, suggests he is very dedicated and a top individual, so I think we have a player on our hands.

23 May 2026 10:59:36
If we pay them enough, and have enough supporters in the stadium, it doesn't matter what the quality is; they should be better than teams with fewer fans.

23 May 2026 11:09:41
Red flag on attitude. Absolutely no way.

This bunch actually look like they like each other and enjoy playing with each other. Let's build the right kind of characters into the squad.

23 May 2026 20:09:48
Oh dear, looks like the Alto Ego is posting shorter posts nowadays.

23 May 2026 23:11:56
Tumble, love it!

24 May 2026 05:26:41
Fyi, as you might be struggling to understand the connection.

Both factors heavily influence standings, but in distinctly different ways. A high wage bill is the single strongest statistical predictor of Premier League success, as it directly reflects a club's ability to attract elite talent and depth. A large supporter base indirectly affects standings by driving the massive revenues required to sustain those top-tier wage budgets.

24 May 2026 07:01:03
All I want for Christmas is a twaddlle filter.

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