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04 Dec 2019 10:10:25
So here we go, the latest rumour is that Gareth Southgate is one of the top candidates for the club if they sack Ole.

We will not improve by sacking Ole unless the club has people who understand football making key football decisions.

Southgate will come in, struggle much the same way Ole and his predecessors have and the club will just slide further down.

Red Man will be over the moon, another manager who's last job in club football resulted in the relegation of Middlesbrough to the Championship from the EPL.

A man who has won less than Ole, has never been at a top club as a player or a manager, and someone who doesn't even understand the culture of our club.

But don't worry sacking the manager will work, it's always worked before.

1.) 04 Dec 2019 10:25:25
it doesn’t matter who comes in, in the short term they’ll pick up a few extra points but until there are wide scale changes behind the scenes we will not progress. As Ed002 often says we act like amateurs. We then proceed to call ourselves the biggest club in the world. Maybe we should act like it.

2.) 04 Dec 2019 11:03:57
Exactly Shappy.
Whoever the manager is, will struggle with a team having midfielders such as Fred and Andreas.
The squad depth is so thin in quality that 1 or 2 injuries severly impacts the team.

3.) 04 Dec 2019 11:33:51
Nail on head there Shapps

With Ole now there's no point in changing anything however I do think Ole is underperforming but the change in management would only result in marginal improvement for a cost of going back to square one.

We will come Jan 1st how seriously the club are backing Ole.

As for the future I want to see the Direction come from above in whatever role - sporting director / director of football.

That needs to happen first or we are are stuck on the same wheel.

Looking at the scouse that's basically what they did when they sorted out their transfer committee. Different problems but similar solution. Every business or team or organisation is led from the top and a reflection of their priorities.

4.) 04 Dec 2019 12:16:53
The point that there's no point in changing the manager because the squad is poor is a ridiculous one.

Is Ole getting the most out of this squad of players?

If your answer is "Yes". Then you are lying.

If your answer is "No". Then why would a decent manager not be able to get more from them?

5.) 04 Dec 2019 12:38:37
Because mumbles we've had decent managers who failed to get anything from them. The first signs of trouble and certain players hide. Or cause stuff behind the scenes.

6.) 04 Dec 2019 12:47:37
Mumbles, look at the past record. We sack a manger, we get slightly better results for a while before it all comes crashing down again.

A new manager probably would get better results than Ole. But who would that manager be and are they good enough to lift us back to the top?

Will the new manager be able to bring in the players required? Or will they have limited impact on transfers?

What happens when the new manager slumps?

Sacking Ole will only provide a short term bump without long term changes being made at the club. The club runs the risk of the new manager potentially damaging the progress of our talented young players. Or upsetting the dressing room.

For what? Would a new manager with this squad be able to get us into the top four this season? Probably not.

7.) 04 Dec 2019 13:11:16
Yeah Mort and they lost their jobs. Why should we afford a manager with average C. V more time than serial winners in L. V. G or Jose?

Jose finished 2nd and was sacked 15 games into a season from poor results resulting in us in 6th place.

Ole has us now in 10th at the same time of the season and two huge games coming up.

Why is a manager that has slowly taken us down the league be afforded more time when he has shown very little to be positive about?

8.) 04 Dec 2019 13:29:10
Shappy you said a couple of months ago that top 4 was the minimum for Ole. Now no manager would get us into the top 4?

Spurs went from no hope to right back in the mix for the 4th position in a few games.

I get your point that the club itself is a mess, which makes it even more important that we have a manager in charge that can get the most out of this squad and Ole is not doing that.

9.) 04 Dec 2019 13:44:07
Because that manager has lost fellaini, hererra, sanchez, lukaku without replacement.
Because that manager was left with darmian and young as rbs, smalling and Jones as cbs, matic, pereira and Fred as cms, no right winger, pogba and matic both wanting to leave.
The results are obviously not going the right way but Ole has:
Gotten rid of dead wood/ bad influences
Bought well in the transfer market, better than I would say any of the previous 3 incumbents.
Bought the signing of the season in Dan James.
Brought through Williams, greenwood and tuanzebe as first team regulars
Has given chong, gomes, garner minutes also.
Given martial back his no. 9 and has trusted him up front.
Trusted rashford at all times.
De gea signed a new contract.
I would say he's improved Williams, greenwood, Dan James and of course Scott mcTominay.
Sure a new manager might get a bounce of wins, of course Ole did but what if an allegri was brought in, would he sell some of these young players Ole has and is in my eyes developing, remember van gaal sold the likes of Evans who should never have left the club.
I still believe in Ole and in what he is doing to transform the club.

10.) 04 Dec 2019 13:53:24
Mumbles, Spurs have great first 11 and a decent squad. They were playing poorly due to issues off the pitch which Pochettino was unable to keep a lid on. This of course wasn't helped by Pochettino suggesting publicly that he might leave if Spurs won the UCL.

All that Spurs side needed was a little stability and some nice words in their ears. They've got that and are now playing to their potential.

I standby both statements, Ole does need to get top four to keep his job, AND I don't think this squad is good enough over a season to get top four.

The club have sacked managers for not getting top four, they have previous for it. Whether they should? Well that's a different question. We have a squad who have qualified for UCL twice in 6 years by finishing in the top 4.
Which suggest this squad has a 33% chance of getting top four.

We aren't good enough, if however we can keep our best 11 fit, play to our potential, and probably get knocked out of most of the cups early then we stand a decent chance of finishing in the top four. But over a 50-60 game season with injuries to key players and the drop off in quality that causes we will struggle.

11.) 04 Dec 2019 15:19:29
if we lose our next 2 games should the manager be sacked?

{Ed047's Note - 100% NO

12.) 04 Dec 2019 16:40:46
100% NO.

13.) 04 Dec 2019 16:50:19
Shappy there's been games this season where only Pogba has been missing from our first team and we've struggled. The last 10 games of last season he had a full squad and we struggled.

He hasn't had it easy the last few games missing midfielders, but you can't make excuses for him winning 1 in 4 and blame injuries.

14.) 04 Dec 2019 17:21:31
Mumbles, name me another outfield player capable of playing to a world class level like Pogba is?

He might be inconsistent, yet Pogba is the only midfielder we have who is capable of making the passes that split the lines and open teams up. I saw a stat the other day that said United score on average 2.72 goals a game with Pogba in the side under Ole, wile we score 1.01 goals a game under Ole when Pogba doesn't play.

Considering that Pogba has missed the last 12 games in the league then that would be an extra 20 league goals we would have scored if Pogba maintained the form he has had under Ole.

Where do you think we would be in the league if we scored an extra 20 goals, hell where would we be if we scored an extra 10? If those 10 goals meant we got 3 more wins rather than two draws and a loss then that would put us even on points with Chelsea in 4th, but ahead of them on good with the extra 10 goals.

15.) 04 Dec 2019 22:15:57
If my aunt was a man she’d be my
uncle bob.



27 Oct 2019 12:08:45
What do people make of the link this morning with Kalvin Phillips of Leeds United?

I think he could be another shrewd signing from the Championship.

We've also been linked with Dier and Rice, Phillips is more mobile than Dier and has a potentially more creative passing range than Rice. Obviously never tested at the highest level but if Marcelo Biesla is prepared to build his team around him then you know he is a good player. The role as the deepest midfielder is a key role in all of Biesla systems.

He might be more attainable from Leeds than Rice or Dier might be, and he would certainly cost less than Rice (upward 80m) or Dier (upward of 50m) would be. It really depends on how Ole wants to play and whether he would suit that better.

1.) 27 Oct 2019 14:02:57
Dier is not costing upwards of 50m, his stock has fallen dramatically since we were in for him under mourinho. That being said i don't think we should sign him even at a cut price fee.

I am more than happy to take punts on a couple of young players from the championship as long as they are shown patience and persevered with and at least have a base level of technical ability.

2.) 27 Oct 2019 14:03:13
I said this at the end of last season. he's a very good player, gets stuck in.

3.) 27 Oct 2019 14:54:19
Last Summer Leeds refused a 27m bid from Spurs. So Philips won't come cheap, especially if we try to get deal done in January.
If we wait till Summer and Leeds get promoted then it s highly unlikely.

4.) 27 Oct 2019 15:11:44
Do we need to sign another midfielder?

Ole said we got a new premier league quality midfielder on Thursday night, so perhaps we should see how this new guy works out first.

5.) 27 Oct 2019 15:48:11
DSG, maybe so, but we would still have to negotiate with Levy. Plus he will be trying to recoup the money they will lose by Eriksen going on a free in the summer.

Dev1l, they did as Bielsa said he wouldn't stay if they sold Phillips. Which goes to show you how highly he rates him. However, things change. Bielsa falls out with football club owners and chairman like no other manager in world football. If they get a good offer in January, especially if we maybe include a loan back option until the summer then maybe they will bite.

Personally I think signing Kalvin Phillips even for 40m in the summer might be a better deal than spending 80m+ on Rice next summer.

6.) 27 Oct 2019 15:52:22
Danny, I'd love nothing more than to see Garner become a regular for us. Sadly, even for a lad if his ability I think he is a season or two away from being ready. If we can bring someone in during January I would try and find a good loan club for Garner in the Championship until the end of the season to give him a run of games at a higher level than the under 23's.

7.) 27 Oct 2019 15:53:19
That one who he prefers The great Brazilian Fred over.

8.) 27 Oct 2019 18:47:39
i haven't seen much of him, but remember us being linked to sean longstaff as well. his brother doesn't look too shabby either. we may get sean for 40m or matty for much less. big decision on who we pick - ideally i would love saul and maddison in the next 2 windows for a midfield squad of McTominay, saul, maddison, garner, fred, perriera, but don't see that happening.

9.) 27 Oct 2019 20:30:34
I’d rather we continue developing mctominay and garner. Phillips is a decent player, but I think those two have a much higher ceiling and they’re our own lads too.

10.) 27 Oct 2019 20:46:58
Realistically we need 4 midfielders to fill 2 central midfield positions. In those 2 positions, you need two workhorses and this may mean more injuries.
Mc Tominay, Fred and Garner can be 3 of those (though Fred is inconsistent and Garner is inexperienced. I also consider Matic good as gone) .
Seems the Options are: Dier 40 m, Philips 35m, Longstaff 50m, Rice 70m and Zakaria 45m.
(figures I put in are highly speculative)

11.) 28 Oct 2019 06:58:28
Dier isn't an improvement on what we already have at the club.
I would avoid him like the plague.

12.) 28 Oct 2019 09:53:25
Caolan, McTominay is a great young player who is improving game by game. However, he is at his best when given license to roam around, yesterday Fred sat which allowed McTominay to do that. Garner may grow into that role in the first team, yet his best performances for the under 23's this season have come as a box to box player rather than a holding player.

The only player we have who you can say is a true holding midfielder, i.e a player who'll patrols in front of the defence and acts as an out ball for defenders or midfielders under pressure, is Matic.

The problem is his legs have gone. So we do need a player who can slot straight in to that role. My preference was for one of Rice of Florentino Luis. However, Kalvin Phillips could be an equally as good option, and one we might not have to break the bank for.

13.) 28 Oct 2019 09:54:29
Don't know the player well enough to be honest, would be a great player profile.

I saw him a bit on the Amazon documentary, looks a good character.

The reservation I have is we: we are on our backside at the moment and shopping in the Championship is a gamble. Dan James has been great but too many signings like that and we become Bournemouth.

Philips + someone like: SMS, Bruno Fernandes, Erikson, Saul etc is the way forward. If Garner is better (which he already appears) than Fred he will get games (he needs 3-4yrs to make a place for himself) .



12 Aug 2019 20:23:08
Why is the narrative that we were "lucky" because Chelsea hit the post/ bar twice?

If we hit the post those same people would be call us unlucky. They would say it was a poor shot.

Why is a shot that hits the woodwork called unlucky while a shot that whistles just past the post is considered a shot off target therefore a poor shot?

If your shot isn't saved by the keeper and it doesn't go in then you missed. It doesn't matter if you missed by a yard or by a kick of paint. A miss is a miss.

We hit the woodwork 14 times last season, had all those shots gone in we would have won and extra 7 points and qualified for the UCL.

So we're we unlucky to not finish fourth or did we miss vital chances? It can't be one rule for us and another for our opponents.

1.) 12 Aug 2019 20:35:04
Don’t try to apply logic to a Chelsea fan. Climate change is happening and it’s starting to effect the plastic fans.

2.) 12 Aug 2019 21:30:43
I'm just wondering what you had to do to get the stats on how many times we hit the woodwork and where we would've finished if they'd gone in.

3.) 12 Aug 2019 21:35:15
Technically snappy a shot that hits the Woodward is classed as off target.

Chelsea saying they were unlucky to mask the fact that they were easily beaten.

Get over it.

4.) 13 Aug 2019 00:09:09
According to some any shot that hits the Woodward is a pretty good shot Bolger.

5.) 13 Aug 2019 06:04:12
Pogba hit the post 7 times in his first season.

6.) 13 Aug 2019 07:08:34
Not saying you were lucky you won. I think most people would agree with me on that.
What I am saying is that the 4-0 flatters United as you struggled to create much of note, and with better finishing from us the match could've been a lot different. We didn't take our chances, and you guys did. That was the difference.

The unlucky part for us fans is that for all of our inexperience on (and off) the pitch, we were ultimately let down by our most experienced guy on the pitch. Azpi switched off twice, for your 2nd and 3rd goals. That was the real shame, for me at least.

You deserved to win as you took the chances you got. We didn't as we didn't finish ours. Simple as.

7.) 13 Aug 2019 08:28:56
Spot on that Shappy.

Jackson, "with better finishing from us the match could've been a lot different" and in other news if my Mum was male she'd be my Dad.

We were clinical, we took the chances that came our way. It's that simple. You can be lucky in the odd game winning by 1-0 but if you win 4-0 you fully deserve it, which I know you have already stated but some of the posts on the Chelsea page are laughable mate.

{Ed0333's Note - I don’t concur mate I thought Chelsea were wasteful and should of been 2 up before you scored. That wasn’t anywhere near a vintage performance from you’re lot and if you'd have played City, Liverpool, Spurs on that form you’d have been soundly dealt with. I didn’t see anything from United that worried me but I agree you did make the most of you’re chances.

8.) 13 Aug 2019 09:09:12
Okay, so I don't speak for most other Chelsea fans on these pages at least :p

But on other platforms most echo my sentiments. We were wasteful and defensive transition was bad. You were clinical indeed. That's mostly story of the match.

9.) 13 Aug 2019 12:23:13

I pretty much agree with your assessment. I think we were lucky to lead at Halftime. But the 2nd half i think tactically we were spot on and deserved to win based on converting our chances.

Good Luck for rest of the season mate.

10.) 13 Aug 2019 12:26:27
Shappy, given the scoreline we can't say that we were lucky to win it but you can't deny that we were certainly lucky not to concede. De Gea was beaten twice and had to rely on prayers that the ball not deviate inside of the post.

11.) 13 Aug 2019 12:36:29
Thanks, SH :) getting top 6 should be possible. Good luck to you, too. If you play up to your talent level it should be a good one for you guys!

12.) 13 Aug 2019 13:43:07
Last season, away at Barca, Rashford went through on goal in the opening minutes and hit the bar.

I genuinely believe that had that gone in we would have beat Barca. We had them on the ropes in the first leg, we were all over them and their defence was in bits.

But that didn't happen, we made silly mistakes at the back and Barcelona were clinical. After the game we were pummelled by the press.

The main difference being, Barcelona were applauded for their performance in winning 3-0, whereas we apparently got lucky against Chelsea winning 4-0.

13.) 13 Aug 2019 16:39:36
Dont put the ball in the net you don't score nothing to do with luck.

14.) 13 Aug 2019 16:42:04
If so, if that. If it was against Liverpool/ Spurs we would struggle, if Chelsea scored from their changes, then we would struggle. We would never know. The fact is, it was Chelsea, we scored from the chances we got, and won the game.

We didn't stop after 2-0 or 3-0 and kept going for more. There were a lot of positives about the way the team went about it in the 2nd half.

15.) 13 Aug 2019 19:51:17
My point is we scored 4, luck doesn't come into it when you score 4 unanswered goals. Yes Chelsea were wasteful and yes Dave saved a few but Chelsea not finishing isn't our problem and isn't your keeper supposed to make saves?

I thought Pogba was poor all game but then there are glimpses of the player you know he is, the ball for Rash over the top and the drive through midfield to set up DJ typifies him. For me he will worry teams and cause problems.

In Rash, Martial and Jesse we have players with pace who can run in behind and run the channels, this will also cause teams problems. I actually think we will be better suited to play against teams Like City, Liverpool and Spurs etc. Teams that will have a go and press high giving the pacey front 3 chance to stretch them at the other end, that's where Pogba will be very important for us with his vision, It's imperative he is motivated and he stays until replaced if we want to be top 4.

As for teams that will defend in compact blocks (that's where we will struggle) I think Maguire will become essential in bringing the ball out from the back and creating an overload in the middle. Can we break them down?

I thought we were poor at the back, great individually but we didn't defend well as a team, partly because Shaw was doubled up on for most of the game with Rash not really tracking back but I do think that will come.

City- I thought were phenomenal and are the team to beat again.

Liverpool- While good I thought Norwich created a few good chances, I have a feeling they can be got at this year. It's whether or not teams can outscore them.

Spurs- I thought ran out of ideas until Eriksen came on, he's important for them.

Arsenal- I really didn't see anything much from them, I thought Newcastle were always in the game (who looked very poor themselves) Auba is excellent and does what he always does.

All in all I'm excited, I'm enjoying watching us again which is amazing. I even got my Mrs cheering us on! I think we will surprise a few this year. I don't think we will be as far away as last year :)

16.) 13 Aug 2019 12:40:58
Ed I did reply to you mate, not sure if it's been lost somewhere.

{Ed0333's Note - not sure mate.

17.) 14 Aug 2019 09:27:04
Chelsea got done. Simple as that. Looking for ‘what ifs’ is just a waste of time. Going into a game against Liverpool tonight they need to think about team selection rather than hitting woodwork. Quick tip: play Kante in CDM. Simple. That centre back pairing was not up to it.

18.) 17 Aug 2019 20:49:48
this game reminded me of when we lost 3 nil to spurs having had 3 great chances to be 3 up, it happens from what i saw a 1nil utd would of been fair, but that's football chelsea were naive pushing for an equaliser and got caught out simple as.
I agree a city etc would of punished us but we will hopefully play better as the season goes on.



17 Jun 2019 19:34:47
Ed002, Just wondering if the recent media reports of United having an interest in Issa Diop has any substance or if it's just media fantasy?


{Ed002's Note - West Ham implied there has been some interest.}

1.) 17 Jun 2019 20:19:03
Ed, has anything changed on the CB interest front aside from this?
Are the club in contact with any clubs regarding specific players?

{Ed002's Note - The club will have been talking to agents and to some clubs. If they persist with Diop them I think you can scratch KK from the list. And I gave an update recently.}

2.) 17 Jun 2019 21:34:44
Am I being thick, who's KK?

{Ed004's Note - Kalidou Koulibaly?}

3.) 17 Jun 2019 22:11:42
Yeah, I was being thick😂.

4.) 17 Jun 2019 22:13:25
From looking at Diop he looks like the player you wish Smalling was. He has all the defensive attributes but is good on the ball. Not elite on the ball yet but very solid. I think Tuanzebe needs the year long loan to a Premier League team like Villa to see if he's able to cut it then can be an exciting addition to our backline next season. Would be a lot happier with the club spending £60m on Diop than £80-90m on Maguire. Hard to pick between the two right now ability wise, then think of where Maguire was at when he was Diop's age (22yo) . A backline of Shaw, Diop, Lindelof (Capt, hopefully) and AWB is alright a little inexperienced but hella exciting! All very good at actual defending while being confident and comfortable on the ball. We live in hope.

5.) 17 Jun 2019 22:16:35
Thank god for that i was thinking kevin Keegan.

6.) 17 Jun 2019 22:35:22
Thanks, Ed.

7.) 17 Jun 2019 23:09:09
Dont know how good Diop is but i just hope we don't spend 60 mil plus on Maguire. He will be another Jones and Smalling but a expensive version.

8.) 18 Jun 2019 01:40:06
Quoted from sky. so believe what you will.

“West Ham want a player in return in any potential deal that would see Diop depart for Old Trafford but United are not willing to give the Hammers the player they want”

Any clue on who the player they want is?

9.) 18 Jun 2019 07:18:22
Ken, my first thought was Kevin Kilbane 😂.

10.) 18 Jun 2019 07:45:28

11.) 18 Jun 2019 10:07:11
Apparently the player they want is Martial.

12.) 18 Jun 2019 10:48:12
How about Diop and Declan Rice for Martial plus cash?
I would definitely take it.



18 Mar 2019 22:19:22
Ed002, are United still interested in Carlos Soler? You mentioned him as a possible target a while back and I've kept a close eye on him since. Looks like he will be some player.

{Ed002's Note - No, but there is interest from another EPL side in Carlos Soler.}

1.) 19 Mar 2019 06:32:16
Thanks, that's a shame he looks like he will become a top player.




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19 Jan 2020 14:35:28
Ed002, I see United have been linked with Luis Campos, I know he is someone you rate very highly.

Is this just paper nonsense or has their actually been an approach made by United?

{Ed002's Note - The club are keen to appoint someone - but there is interest from elsewhere and he would need commitments.}

1.) 19 Jan 2020 19:19:59
Would be a great start to get him or someone like him in.

2.) 19 Jan 2020 19:38:04
Wd if you have any information what's the hold up with united to appoint a DOF it seems preposterous to take so long to appoint such a critical position.

3.) 19 Jan 2020 19:49:01
Thanks Ed002. Who in your opinion would be best suited to the role the club are looking for, and what are the kind of structural changes do you feel the club need to make? Cheers.

{Ed002's Note - campos would be a good choice. I am not going to get into the changes that are needed.}

4.) 19 Jan 2020 19:55:51
Jose and Spurs I guess are the others interested?

5.) 19 Jan 2020 23:00:50
I don't know why you're getting your hopes up. Leaks like these come every time Utd play a top side.



19 Jan 2020 10:59:28
Seeing a few self pitying posts about Haaland following his performance in his first game for Dortmund.

Yes the club wanted to sign him, but the lad didn't want to move to us.

Hardly surprising as he was born in Leeds while his dad played from them, his dad then moved to City.

So he is unlikely to be a childhood United supporter. Then consider one of our most revered captains and a player still held in high regard by most United fans was responsible for ending his fathers career.

So its hardly surprising that for him we aren't his first choice.

We miss out on players all the time.

According to Ed Woodward we are monitoring over 900 players, with a realistic maximum of around 25 players in our first team squad then a bare minimum of 875 will never play for United.

Let's not moan every time a player who was linked with us scores a goal or has a good game elsewhere.

{Ed007's Note - Roy Keane did not end Alf-Inge Haaland's career, he had nothing at all to do with it. Haaland finished that particular match and then played a midweek friendly for Norway and played in City's next league game as well.
His ongoing problems with were with his left knee - if you watch the video you'll notice the Norwegian's left knee is strapped up - while Keane clipped him on the right one.
Both City and Haaland dropped their legal action against Keane following his autobiography because the medical & video evidence showed Keane wasn't at fault and that Haaland had admitted that he had been playing with an injured left knee and that it hadn't taken a knock in the game.}

1.) 19 Jan 2020 11:44:06
Well said ed047.
Shappy i said the same. Players turning united down for years. Alaways have always will. You win some you lose some.

2.) 19 Jan 2020 12:07:58
I was just about to say this but Ed you cleared everything up for me. Also I've heard the club pulled out of the deal because Raiola wanted a release clause in his contract so he had full control of his next move aswell. I believe Haaland has a 50 million clause in his dortmund contract. If he has two sensational seasons then 50 million is an absolute steal so if that is the case I don't blame the club at all for not going ahead with it.

3.) 19 Jan 2020 12:11:53
Shouldn't let the facts get in the way if a good story though Ed 😀

I thought that nonsense about Keane ending Haalands career was put to rest long ago!

{Ed007's Note - As long as I have breath in my body I won't stand by and allow the great man to be dissed, Betty 😁

4.) 19 Jan 2020 12:51:25
People ignore that Haaland played for OGS at Molde did he not? What does it say about Haalands thoughts about our manager? Maybe he just wanted Dortmund, maybe his agent aimed him elsewhere, maybe he couldn’t see United competing for years under present management and maybe he doesn’t have the emotional twaddle about OGS. Whatever he thinks, he went elsewhere, so did Shearer, move on and see what happens with the lad, we can always try again.

5.) 19 Jan 2020 13:17:28
Too true bond.

Keane made a bad decision and put in a bad challenge, but it’s been blown completely out of proportion.

Young Haaland made the best decision for his career, and anyone looking at United for the last few years couldn’t blame him.



05 Jan 2020 21:20:57
Several people on here questioning why a player would want Mino Raiola as their agent.

While others are questioning the ability and contribution of Jesse Lingard.

Well it now looks like we will find out the answers to both with Mino Raiola becoming Jesse's agent.

If Mino can get Jesse a transfer to a top side or a huge new deal then it will show both how good an agent Raiola is, and how valued Lingard is by either our club or another.

{Ed047's Note - well someone sorted us in excess of £30 million for Iwobi and got £80 million off of you for McGuire so literally anything’s possible.

Won’t mean he’s any good.

1.) 05 Jan 2020 22:23:58


I still can't believe United payed £80 million for Maguire.

Talk about over hyped.

Arsenal and United are in the same boat. Slowly sinking boat. Both boards have given them a colander to try and bail them out.

{Ed047's Note - Emery was an absolute colander and we had to get rid. First signs from Arteta are good but so were the first from Ollie so it’s currently anyone’s guess on him. 🤞

2.) 05 Jan 2020 22:27:58
I don't think there's any denying how good an agent Raiola is? Is there? Surely he's already answered that question many times.

3.) 06 Jan 2020 00:10:50
if united now give lingard a pay rise. i am officially going on youtube to act like that t t blippi who my grand daughter watches. if he can earn money acting like a k ob o can i.

{Ed047's Note - just for angelred’s info I was referring to Lingard not Raiola.

4.) 06 Jan 2020 02:10:58
Raiola is possibly the best at making money for his clients (even more so for himself) but does that mean he is the best agent? Not necessarily in my book. The best agent is the one who looks after his players so that they get decent money but just as importantly develop their playing potential to the maximum and get the best opportunities to have a long, successful and fulfilling career.

5.) 06 Jan 2020 06:05:26
We bought Bebé in the past. Was valued by his club, our club, SAF and the scouts. Just saying!

6.) 06 Jan 2020 07:14:29
Angel, I agree. Just that some people have been questioning him based on the idea of public image and how he might negatively effect that with his interviews.

Ed047, I said in the summer that Maguire wouldn't be my first choice and that there were much better players available for much less. I was told his weaknesses were minor and that his "fantastic leadership and organisational" qualities would massively improve our defence. To which I said I hadn't really seen anything from him to suggest he has great leadership and organisational skills.

I'll admit he has stepped up and shown the right attitude and he does seem like a good leader (but not a fantastic one, certainly not inspirational like Robson or Cantona) .

But he has shown that he cannot organise a defence, most of the time he is the one out of position. You can't be an organiser if you can't even keep yourself in check.

The issue we have with our defence atm is that they are looking to Harry to organise and pull them together. Yet he isn't that sort of player. He needs someone alongside him to talk him through a game and keep him in check.

{Ed047's Note - you’re right Shappy but I think the club just needed to do something and Leicester just sat there rubbing their hands.

7.) 06 Jan 2020 08:16:28
ED0047, At Utd it's the blind leading blind.

{Ed047's Note - very much so mate

8.) 06 Jan 2020 11:41:36
Not sure where Jesse thinks he can go after Utd? He’s garbage!

{Ed047's Note - he’s not good mate, another Cleverly, Welbeck, Walcott, Wilshere type of player, flattered to deceive and ultimately couldn’t cut it.

9.) 06 Jan 2020 13:27:36
Raiola obviously loves a challenge Ed.

10.) 06 Jan 2020 14:35:27
I don't think Jesse is or will ever be world class.

Yet he is still a very good player who happens to be in a patch of awful form. His off field antics don't endear him to the fans, which makes him an easy target.
His poor form has also coincided with his mother suffering from illness and him needing to take over looking after his younger brother and sister. So, to a point he has my sympathy.

I think in the right team, with the right players around him playing a style that suits him then he could be a very good player for a team.

He has shown with his key goals in big games and knockout competitions that he has the temperament to play on the biggest stage. In a team that plays a high press with players in front of him making good clever runs and playing with some confidence then Jesse could do very well.

However, he isn't the sort of player who can drag a team up by their laces or carry them on his back. Which is sadly what is being asked of him at United.

We slate him as an attacking midfielder who doesn't create or score goals. Yet who else is carrying the burden of creating chances from midfield? Matic? Fred? McTominay? It makes him an easy player to make out of the game with little else coming from midfield. While we have pace in front of him and out wide, but other than running at player do people see an ability to unlock a defence with clever passing and movement from any of Rashford, Martial or James?

Lingard's poor form is a symptom of the team struggling to create chances, rather than it being the cause. Maybe someone like Maddison or Bruno Fernandes might be able to create more for a time, or be more clinical when presented a chance.

But how long until teams realise they just need to double up on them to snuff out our ability to create chances.

Saying the players aren't good might be true, but it's far too simplistic to fully explain our problems.

11.) 06 Jan 2020 16:24:31
the players not being good is the main reason of our problems.

we lack quality in areas of the pitch that need quality if we are to win games.

the midfield is poor. everyone in the country knew it was poor last season when we got demolished by everton and embarrassed by 2 teams already relegated

we pissed around in the summer like every other season boasting we have money to spend and we will invest yet look at us now?

injuries galore and now we a pardon my french f****D.

12.) 06 Jan 2020 18:07:17
Lingard is good squad player at best and should not be used as our main No10 - which he is,
Which is why we aren’t creating chances.



01 Jan 2020 14:56:06
So here we are at the dawn of a new decade. What will it bring? Who knows. It seems we are starting the decade with a divided club, no direction, no vision, no idea.

Some like the familiarity of Ole, what he is trying to do, they appreciate he might not be the man to get us back to the top, yet he seems to be doing a decent job of weeding the garden and planting the seeds of hope. His moving away from players without the right attitude, while giving talented young hungry players a chance is refreshing and will likely bare fruits long after he has gone.

While others live in the here and now, and it is hard to argue that results have been good enough. While performances have been hit and miss. They want him sacked immediately and someone who they feel is more suitable long term brought in. This especially escalates when a perceived "top" manager loses his job and becomes available.

I fall into the former, which will surprise no one. My view is that you need to put the wheels back on the cart and make it roadworthy before you attach a stallion to the front. Otherwise we will end up failing again as we have previously.

Mourinho and LvG had fantastic CV's and had top level pedigree, as does Allegri who several people would like now. Yet, without the correct structure behind them they will fail. When they do, we will be left with another half built squad, with several new players who might not fit the next managers vision.

We are a club struggling to find an identity after Sir Alex. His character was all consuming, he was able to influence many level of the club and had the foresight to plan in the short, medium and long term. Very few managers plan longer than a year or so into the future as few will last longer than that.

So, the important question might be how far are we from challenging? Well, we clearly have some serious work to do to our squad.
We have the makings of a good defence, yet we seem fragile in defence. AWB should be a shoe in at RB, yet there are question marks over his ability going forward. Maguire has decent at CB, but for the fee paid many are expecting more. Lindelof has regressed and Tuanzebe has had a few injury issues which have stopped him having a run. While Williams looks are best LB, but has only played a few games and is still raw and rash at times.
Midfield is a mess, McTominay looks good enough, Pogba and Matic want out. Fred has improved but still doesn't look quite good enough to be first choice for a title challenging side.
Rashford, Martial, James and Greenwood look very promising as a dynamic and frighten forward line. Yet they lack consistency as is expected of young players. They also struggle against deep siting teams without a player who can find them between the lines rather than in behind.

Most people would agree we need at least 2 probably three midfielders, a RW, and a more experienced striker. While most wouldn't rule out a new CB or replacing Shaw.

So, that's at least 5 maybe 7 new players.

Whilst I agree that we will need those players to challenge over the course of the season, I do wonder how far away are we.

Looking at the EPL table:

Liverpool W18 D1 L0
Leicester W13 D3 L4
Man City W13 D2 L5
Chelsea W11 D2 L7
Man Utd W8 D7 L5
Spurs W8 D6 L6

Its clear where are true problem lies and its drawing too many games. We have lost less games than Chelsea and Spurs, and the same number as the defending champions City. We have only lost 1 more than Leicester. While Liverpool's form is frankly ridiculous. While we have drawn the most games of the top 6, with the four teams above us COMBINED having only drawn 1 game more than us.

So although our squad seems to be quite a long way from where we would expect it to be in order to challenge, we only need to turn draws into wins and suddenly we would be much higher in the table.

If we had signed Bruno Fernandes in the summer, and he played every game instead of Lingard or Pereira and he managed say 8 goals and 8 assists. Which isn't out of the question given his form over the last couple of years. Where in the table would we be with an extra 16 goals? That would give us 48 goals, or 1 more than Liverpool currently have.

I think given how this season has panned out, if we had signed Bruno Fernandes in the summer we would be at least 10 points better off which would put us 2nd/ 3rd.

That is with a squad that is according to nearly all United fans well short of quality and with a manager many don't feel is good enough, while we have had to deal with a spate of injuries to key players.

We need to remember that while our squad is far from perfect, the same could be said for most teams in the league.

So let's try and start this new decade off with a more positive frame of mind, it won't stop the rot, but we will likely be happier and healthier for it.

1.) 01 Jan 2020 15:28:37
Sounds quite sensible.
The lack of depth makes it harder than it usually is.
We seem to play some players sometimes 4 times in 2 weeks and yet expect the same consistentcy which is maybe asking bit too much.
AWB, Lindelof, Maguire, Rashford, McTominay, Fred have played far more games than they should have.
Then there are players woefully out of form or not there yet.

If I were taking the shots, I'd push both Matic and pogba out and sign 2 midfielders this January or maybe 1.

I hate players that keep flirting that they want to move. Get decent money for them and let them out.

Replace them with any 1 of Bruno, grealish, Zakaria or kalvin Phillips.
Bruno I'm 100% sure can play in a 2 man midfield better than pogba can.
Phillips is performing really well this season.
Zakaria too.
and grealish is having a terrific season as well.

I know Matic played well against Burnley but against teams with midfield runners he misses them.

Players that actually stay fit for a course of season, don't like useless posts to stir up the media.

Even if that means that Garner or Levitt have to play more, I'm okay with that.

We are way too soft as a club.

2.) 01 Jan 2020 15:37:08
Happy New Year Shappy - It's my assertion that we are not too far away but with every promising dawn comes a depressing set back.

This is undoubtedly a team for the future but we must also take care of the present. I believe in the precocious talents of Rashford and Martial and it is my assertion that if we could acquire a really good No10 and RW our team would improve immeasurably. Greenwood genuinely excites me and we could be seeing the birth of another wonderful academy graduate.

Recruitment will be the key moving forward. Targeting the right players, in the key positions to allow this team to mature and evolve. Get this right and maybe the dawning of a new decade might coincide with the emergence of a new and exciting Man Utd.

3.) 01 Jan 2020 16:15:01

4.) 01 Jan 2020 17:21:02
Shappy, good post. But why didn't we buy Bruno Fernandes? He has been playing superbly in the past two years. He's full of goals and assists, and yet, we're not even considering him?
Why aren't we in the market for Grealish in addition to Fernandes?
Hope we are going to buy in January market.

5.) 01 Jan 2020 18:19:29
AAA, I think the reason we didn't sign Fernandes was ultimately down to money.
The club came out with the line originally that they weren't interested, then it was they looked at him but felt he gave the ball away too much.
Both are bull. The truth is the club made a ridiculously low offer and thought they could bully Sporting due to them being a precieved "smaller" club and they had some financial issues that needed sorting.
When Sporting didn't crack and give in the club was left unable/ unwilling to pay what was required.
Simple as that. I don't know if the club still thought a deal could be done for Jadon Sancho, or was saving money to use elsewhere. However, in hindsight that looks foolish now.

For me the club need a creative No.10, a creative wide player, a different sort of striking option and a proper defensive midfielder who can not only shield the back four but pass forward with confidence and purpose.

For me Kalvin Phillips or even Adrien Rabiot could be good options at CDM.
Bruno Fernandes or James Maddison at CAM.
David Neres or Steven Bergwijn at RW and either Edison Cavani or Raul Jimenez for striker.

6.) 01 Jan 2020 23:12:10
Attack man as I've posted already Fernandez has just signed a new long term deal with sporting. Also why would he sign for us. We are going nowhere fast.



18 Dec 2019 14:40:16
Good job ken, here's my picks.
My End of year EPL honour list for 2019
Manager of year: Klopp
Team of year: Liverpool
Good Surprise team of year: Sheffield United
Bad surprise team of year: Spurs
Best tackler: AWB
Best signing: Raul Jimenez
Worst signing: Pepe
Worst pitch: Burnley
Best pitch: Spurs
Best pundit: Gary Neville
Worst pundit: Micheal Owen
Likely champions Liverpool
Like bottom 3: Watford, Norwich and Villa
Likely top 4: Liverpool, Leicester, Spurs, City.
Surprise of year: Ancelotti potentially joining Everton (3x UCL winner and title winner in all of Europe's top five leagues)
Shock of year: Man City being 14 points off of top spot after only 17 games.
Stain on year: Racism
Player of the year: VvD
Keeper of year: Kasper Schmeichel (most clean sheets in 2019)
Most entertaining player: James Maddison (most goalscoring chances created and plays with tenacity and aggression great combination of silk and steel)
Mess of year: How VAR has been implanted. Personally I think it is a good thing, but really badly implanted.

1.) 18 Dec 2019 14:55:23
I would say;
Sheffield United
Sheffield United
wan Bissaka
Old Trafford
Roy Keane
Clinton Morrison
Watford, Saints, Norwich
Liverpool, City, Leicester, Spurs
Poch sacked
Ancelotti to Everton
Racist clowns in Serie A
van Dijk
de Bruyne
VAR - get rid.

2.) 19 Dec 2019 09:31:31
My End of year EPL honour list for 2019
Manager of year: Rodgers
Team of year: Liverpool
Good Surprise team of year: Sheffield United
Bad surprise team of year: Arsenal
Best tackler: AWB
Best signing: James
Worst signing: Pepe
Worst pitch: Burnley
Best pitch: Spurs
Best pundit: Gary Neville
Worst pundit: Owen Hargreaves
Likely champions: Liverpool
Likely bottom 3: Watford, Villa and Hammers
Likely top 4: Liverpool, Leicester, City, Man utd of course
Surprise of year: Arteta potentially joining Arsenal
Shock of year: Man City being 14 points off of top spot after only 17 games. (SHOCKED)
Stain on year: Racism
Player of the year: Vardy
Keeper of year: Henderson
Most entertaining player: KDB
Mess of year: VAR.




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17 Jan 2020 09:36:36
Shock horror the club tries to negotiate a transfer fee rather than just paying what the selling club ask for.

So many people on here complain that our club repeatedly get taken for a ride and over pay on transfer fees, yet they are also the first to complain when the club actually spends time negotiating a transfer fee.

It's almost like whatever the club does some people will find something to moan about.



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15 Jan 2020 22:00:45
Angel, the last paragraph of my last reply I clearly say

"I'm not say the club is run well"

I'm not making excuses, just trying to add balance. When someone says the club can't compete a transfer while ignoring the three signings we made in the summer just reeks of petty one sided whinging.

The club are attempting to sign Bruno Fernandes, whether we succeed or not remains to be seen. But I'm not sure what complaining on the internet every half an hour because the club haven't announced his signing yet is a little pathetic.

We'll either sign him or not. By all means if the club balls it up a second time then kick off and stamp your feet for all the difference it will make. But at least you will be complaining about something that has actually happened or not as the case maybe.

It's like complaining that it's not Christmas yet and the government have made a mess of it on the 22nd of December.

Give it time.



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15 Jan 2020 17:20:00
How many windows did it take to negotiate Maguire? or AWB? or James?

Yes, the club tried to play hard ball with Sporting over Fernandes in the summer, and now they are back to try and sort it. Maybe they club didn't feel they needed Fernandes enough to pay the fee in the summer. Maybe they didn't think Pogba was going to spend 4 months injured.

I'm not saying the club is run well, just that there is little point throwing our toys out the pram just because a player hasn't signed by a date we feel is appropriate.



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15 Jan 2020 13:44:14
Fine then Srestha, get your knickers in a twist.

It's a well known fact after all that fans getting angsty on the internet makes top football clubs complete transfer deals quicker.

If we are going to sign him then it will happen, if we don't then we don't.



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15 Jan 2020 11:20:13
People need to chill, the club are attempting to sign someone. These things take a certain amount of time.
I read somewhere that Sporting might be stringing out the negotiations so he can play for them on Friday against Benfica. Maybe that's true, although I would be surprised if it is to be honest. A dangerous game to play if the rumours are true that Sporting need the money. If he gets injured on Friday then that would potentially put the kibosh on the whole deal.
Either way, at some point I expect he'll be announced as a new signing.

Then everyone can get back to complaining that the club aren't going to sack Ole as they have just backed him in the January transfer window.




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20 Jan 2020 10:47:01
I think that's a dangerous game to play. There is already murmurs coming from the fans that the people behind the scenes are incompetent and are at fault for the clubs current situation. Gary Neville has come out and questioned why Ed Woodward still has a job at the club.

If the club make noises that they are trying to sign a player or two then they don't regardless of whether they intended to or not then those murmurs will start to grow and become chants at the stadium.

It's not a good way to deflect attention, people are starting to question your competence, so you set in motion a plan where you will look like you've failed, but tried hard? Sounds like slipping a noose around your neck to me.



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19 Jan 2020 19:49:01
Thanks Ed002. Who in your opinion would be best suited to the role the club are looking for, and what are the kind of structural changes do you feel the club need to make? Cheers.

{Ed002's Note - campos would be a good choice. I am not going to get into the changes that are needed.}



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19 Jan 2020 19:54:32
On occasions we were decent, but there is a clear gulf in class when Liverpool upped the tempo.

Defensively we still need work, too many goals conceded at set pieces.

I'm actually glad James didn't take Salah out, it would have been a clear red card which would have meant a ban for him, with Rashford out that would have been disasterous. Plus it wouldn't have made a difference to the result.

With Rashford out the club needs to push through the Bruno Fernandes deal AND find another striker/ forward. Effectively Rashford will be out for the season now. If we can bring in a goalscoring RW and push James back over to the left for the next few months.



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17 Jan 2020 18:11:28
Fernandes offers plenty of tactical flexibility. He can play at No.8 or No.10, he can play at No.6 but that seems silly considering his skillset.

So if we say 8 or 10 then we could like up 442 diamond, 433, 4222, 3213, 4141, 352 or most likely 4231.

Personally I like either 4141 or a variant of 343. But whether we have the players for that remains to be seen.

I expect until the summer we will mostly see 4231 with McTominay, Fred or Pogba in midfield with Fernandes in the No.10 position, Rashford left, Martial up top and James and Greenwood sharing the role on the right.

When Pogba is back fit and playing it might look more like a 4141 with Pogba pushing up on the inside left and Fernandes on the inside right with McTominay anchoring the midfield. That would be very good against those teams that sit deep.



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16 Jan 2020 15:02:43
They have 71 goals across the EPL, UCL, EFL and FA cups. Meaning they have had 32 goals coming from elsewhere.

We have 54 goals across the EPL, EL, EFL and FA cups. Meaning 15 goals have come from elsewhere.

So there is definitely something in that.