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19 Jan 2021 13:41:29
Ed002, I'm hearing quite a lot of chatter about United holding an interest in the young Argentine defender Facundo Medina currently of RC Lens.

With rumours of even a possible move in January for him. Personally I find that unlikely as he only moved to France from South America last July.

Do you know if United hold an interest in him, and what the view of him is in France. He's supposedly caught the eye of several well thought of French pundits and coaches.

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of Manchester United making an approach but ironically there is very significant interest from a number of clubs in his centre back partner, Loic Bade.}


1.) 19 Jan 2021 14:37:24
Ed002
Any truth to the rumours linking us to Robin Le Normand of Real Sociedad? Or is it just the random names linked for click bait purpose? Also is he any good? Not seen much him play.

Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - Robin Le Normand (CB) I am not aware of any approach to Real Sociedad by Manchester United but told another interested side that he was not for sale meaning that a club would need to agree to his buy out clause to effectively make an offer. But they do money and want to keep their "prized assets" so may be open to a good offer.}


2.) 20 Jan 2021 11:27:50
Is sign him just for the name alone. Bobby the Norman!


 

 

20 Dec 2020 13:24:21
Ed002, do you know if Manchester United have a serious interest in 19 year old Ecuadorian Moises Caicedo who has been linked to United in the past couple of days.

From what I've read without watching him he sounds like a promising, talented young CDM/ CM. But I would doubt he would be coming to United to be first choice anytime soon.

{Ed002's Note - My understanding is that he impressed when Manchester United were following up on looking at another player who they had first seen in the Real Sociedad reserves. There has been interest in Caicedo from a couple of other sides.}


1.) 21 Dec 2020 11:05:20
I can see him going straight into the first team squad, he's a full international, he's 19 so he's old enough. From his highlights package which is quite lengthy for someone that's not played for the last 6 months he looks a beast at tackling and breaking up play, chips in with a couple of goals. I think he's an ideal replacement for Matic over time, get used to the Premier League and get him ready for next season.


2.) 21 Dec 2020 12:25:08
Kidder, Pellistri looked the business in South America and is a similar age and has a similar amount of first team experience.

It's a huge step up in level of competition to the EPL, while they are young lads moving halfway around the world to a very different culture.

There will be a period of adjustment and I wouldn't expect him to be thrown into the first team immediately.


3.) 22 Dec 2020 20:01:28
A lot of talk in Ecuador (social media so pinch of salt lads) that something has been agreed.


 

 

13 Nov 2020 17:14:16
I've heard a rumour that United and Juventus have/ are exploring the idea of a Pogba/ Dybala swap either in January or next summer.

Dybala's wage demands are beyond what Juventus are prepared/ able to pay him and the stalemate over a possible new deal means they will have to sell by next summer at the latest to avoid possibly losing him on a free in 2022.

While Pogba's position at United has been clear for a long time. He wants to leave, but the club have blocked a move as they would need to sell for less than they paid and they don't want to lose face. However, the club have now got themselves in the stupid position of not being able to sell him due to the activation on the one year extension and they cannot "profitieer" from that extension. Meaning they keep an unhappy player for the next 18 months then lose him for nothing, they offer him a new massive deal and pay a player far more than he's worth and throw the wage structure into disarray, or they find a solution where he leaves and the club save face.

So, I was wondering is a Pogba/ Dybala swap even possible?


1.) 13 Nov 2020 17:39:25
Shappy they can sell him next summer or in Jan.


2.) 13 Nov 2020 17:58:53
Dybala is a good player for sure but plays mainly as a second striker. Is that the position we really need to reinforce the most? Feels like we'd go for him due to convenience rather than extensively scouted him etc and he be right for the team. Mishandling Pogba will lose us some serious cash ultimately. If we were going to swap Pogba for anyone at Juventus though I'd be targeting Matthijs de Ligt. At least then that's moving on a known problem for a potential solution (to our CB issue) .


3.) 13 Nov 2020 19:06:14
We already have too many Ams in Vdb, Bruno and Pogba why would we swap Pogba for Dybala. It would be like the dumbest thing to do.


4.) 14 Nov 2020 07:30:07
I think dybala could suit an interchanging front 3 system but yeah I would worry about him wanting to play the Bruno role. In an ideal world we’d just sell pogba, we have no use for him. He cannot play in a team with Bruno in my eyes as they occupy the same spaces and Bruno is much more reliable and had shown more in less than a year than pogba has since he returned. For me I would sell him and bring in a quality DM. Ideal would be Saul as he can play the deeper role but I think if we were to go down the purely defensive minded midfielder we couldn’t go wrong with Zakaria. Saying that Partey certainly looks the real deal atm.


5.) 14 Nov 2020 07:41:57
He isn't AM Singh, he is, as Halesini said, a second striker. It could mean a change of formation, and playing with two forwards.


6.) 14 Nov 2020 13:44:26
Always thought he’d be a great option at RF.


7.) 14 Nov 2020 14:10:14
Ken, my understanding is that as United triggered the one year extension in Pogba's contact (which would have been up next summer 2021) to last until 2022. That means any money from any sale would go to Pogba unless some sort of agreement can be reached between United and Pogba to circumvent the "profiteering" regulations.
i. e. the club can't activate the one year extension just to make money from his sale.

While Dybala wouldn't be my first choice option, I could see him working well in a two man front line if the management decided to go with a 41212 or 3512 shape full time with the squad.

I've heard that it is an option both club's are exploring to save face/ get a player they want/ avoid losing key players for free.

Personally I'd have sold Pogba last summer, and brought in Bruno a few months earlier.

Ideally I think we need a left sided CB partner for Maguire (as we are unlikely to drop a 80m player who is the club captain) . Getting a left sided CB means Maguire can be pushed over to the right hand side and get a little more protection from AWB.

A CDM to replace Matic long term, who struggles to play 2 games a week over a whole season. I really like McTominay, but I don't think he is a natural holding player. He best attribute is his running power and ability to move box to box, neither of which is used as a holding midfielder. While his passing range is limited, especially his long range passing accuracy, and his defensive reading of the game is average. Although he is strong in defensive duels. While Fred I'm not sure what his best role is. He isn't great creatively, his passing and first touch are erratic, he is terrible in the holding role. He is at his best as an annoying buzzing player, getting in the face of the opposition and winning the ball back then playing short, simple passes. However, I feel to really get the best out of him you would need BOTH a deeplying playmaker AND a No.10. either way, we seriously lack a natural holding CDM to cover/ replace Matic.

Then obviously we need a RW, it was meant to be Sancho. Whether that ship has sailed remains to be seen. Yet next summer we will likely have to compete with at least one of Liverpool, Chelsea, City, PSG, Real Madrid or even Barcelona for his signature. Meaning that he will likely cost more than what we weren't willing to pay this summer.


8.) 14 Nov 2020 16:32:08
People keep saying that, but is that really the case Shappy? Sancho wants to go to England, which would leave 4 teams in the race. Chelsea already has a lot of atackers, and if he choose Liverpool, he would be 2nd choice. He won't go back to City. PSG might be an option, but I think that's highly unlikely. Real has different targets in Mbappe, Haaland and the player from Ren (forgot his name) . Barcelona has no money, unless they sell some of their expensive players. Back to Liverpool, as I think they could be an option, if Salah leaves.


9.) 14 Nov 2020 17:18:28
Trololo, Salah might leave Liverpool next summer so Sancho could be the replacement.
City might have a new manager and could look for a big name signing for the manager and could look to Sancho.
PSG might lose either Mbappe or Neymar and would look for a top signing to replace either of them.
Real Madrid have been approached by his agent and could easily switch their focus to him if they can't get other targets.
Barcelona might be looking for a replacement for Messi and Sancho could be the ideal player.
Chelsea are less likely to get involved, but do have a previous interest.

I doubt ALL of those sides would be interested, but if even ONE of them are then we immediately face competition for him which we didn't have this year. While the likelihood that NONE of them would show an interest is slim at best.


10.) 14 Nov 2020 20:39:32
Considering we keep playing juan mata right wing and let him drift infield and link up with other attackers, it isn't outside the realm of possibilities that dybala could do a similar sort of role.


11.) 15 Nov 2020 01:07:46
We might as well swap him with cash. The guys is the modern day Carlton Palmer.


12.) 15 Nov 2020 01:16:40
Sure Shappy, we both got our opinions about that possible transfer, but you made it look like every club out there is going to fight for Sancho. There is no chance that every club you mentioned will be interested in him. Liverpool could easily be the only contender.


13.) 15 Nov 2020 05:42:41
Dybala has a fantastic left foot and can easily play on the right side of a front three.


14.) 15 Nov 2020 10:31:27
Trololo, I'm not sure I did.

"Yet next summer we will likely have to compete with at least one of Liverpool, Chelsea, City, PSG, Real Madrid or even Barcelona for his signature. "

That's what Is said in my post. Where I clearly say "likely" and "at least one of".

I haven't said anyone would definitely be in for him, just that several other clubs are likely to hold an interest.

Personally I think the deal is dead. If we weren't prepared to pay what Dortmund wanted this year then why would we pay it next year?

{Ed002's Note - Juventus are already in discussions with another side over Dybala as clubs are making an effort to agree transfers as early as possible. An exchange for Pogba is not something that has been discussed and there remains the issue of a renewed contract if Dybala were to drop his insistance on a particular clause in his contract.}


15.) 15 Nov 2020 11:35:57
Cheers Ed002, that puts that to bed.


16.) 15 Nov 2020 22:42:19
Sorry, I read it in that manner. Yes, we wouldn't pay that amount, but neither did anyone else. Obviously the price was too high. As much as I'd like to see Sancho playing for United, it shouldn't happen at that price.
And virus is still active, I doubt much will change until summer, concerning other clubs (and Uniteds) budget.


 

 

16 Oct 2020 10:38:29
"Paul's our player, he's going to be here for another two years and I'm sure Paul is focused on doing his best for us and we want to see the best of Paul. I'm sure in the next couple of years we'll get the best out of him. "

Solskjaer's most recent comments about Paul Pogba. So I doubt he'll be dropped for the Newcastle game, and it looks like the club intend to activate the one year extension and let him leave on a free in 2022. Poor decision in my opinion, and just shows the lack of leadership, direction and basic understanding of football from the top brass at the club.


1.) 16 Oct 2020 11:19:35
“Pauls head is elsewhere, he has wanted to leave for the past 3 summers, didn't see eye to eye with previous manager like a lot of the squad. Paul is not focused on doing his best for us, i'm sure hell excel elsewhere in the next couple of years”.

Probably closer to the truth but ole is hardly gonma say that in his press conference.


2.) 16 Oct 2020 11:37:01
What about the poor decision making from Old to keep shoe-horning him in the midfield, playing deep when it clearly isn't working?


3.) 16 Oct 2020 12:16:03
It worked pretty well last season post lockdown.

I can't think of a single player who has played well in the league for us this season.


4.) 16 Oct 2020 12:57:35
Just don't play him. Should be easy enough for the manager.


5.) 16 Oct 2020 13:08:01
Maybe Paul Scholes?


6.) 16 Oct 2020 13:15:08
Did it dsg? 2 cup semi finals and a dismal few games before that.
Our best run was when pogba was injured.


7.) 16 Oct 2020 13:17:04
so we will be playing with ten men for the next two seasons then.


8.) 16 Oct 2020 13:20:00
DarkKnight, With Pogba there are three options with him in the squad.

1. Don't play him at all. but the draw back is every time you drop points that decision will be questioned. While if the club weren't going to play him they might have well sold him this summer even if it was for 10m.

2. Play him in a position that will get the best out of Pogba even if that is to the detriment to other players such as Bruno, Rashford or whoever. The plus side is pogba plays well, the downside is others might not. Plus if Pogba doesn't sign a new deal then he leaves after we have built the team around him.

3. Try and crowbar him in at his detriment and not that of other players who are committed to the side. That way if he leaves then he isn't a key player in our squad. While other players haven't had their form impacted by Pogba. While win, lose or draw you can't be questioned for leaving out "potentially" one of our best players.

None are good options, we have an unbalanced squad and a key player who wants to leave. Ideally the club would have moved him on this summer and Donny would have been his replacement in the first team. While Lingard or Pereira could have added depth until next season when hopefully one or two of Garner, Levitt and Mejbri might be ready to push for a first team spot depending on how they develop this season.


9.) 16 Oct 2020 15:02:48
I agree with Ken. Our best run was with Fred-Mactominay double pivot.


10.) 16 Oct 2020 17:38:49
2 guys with limited talent giving it everything are better than a player with lots of talent but not giving it his all.


11.) 16 Oct 2020 17:52:22
Ken, Pogba featured in every unbeaten game since project restart.
His first appearance post lockdown was against Spurs in which he won us the penalty after coming on as a substitute.
Apart from that he started all other matches.

I just feel he is not motivated to play for us. It shows in the lack of effort.
There are times when Bruno busts his guts and tracks back when he loses the ball, but I've yet to see that attitude from Pogba.


12.) 16 Oct 2020 17:55:05
Ken i wouldn't say that the only problem is he doesn't give everything. The 2 limited guys you refer to are simply better than Pogba in this role, they are better defencive 8 in this double pivot role.


13.) 16 Oct 2020 18:27:15
Pogba should be playing as understudy to Bruno, with Fred and VdB and Matic and McTominey fighting for the other two positions.


14.) 16 Oct 2020 18:53:36
Trd read the post.
We have been poor since he came back in the team. I think since project restart we played well twice. Before restart we played well in 7 or 8 games while he was injured. Our form has deteriorated since the restart game by game until now.
Its not just him ole has them all playing badly especially his own signings.


15.) 16 Oct 2020 18:59:08
Given how Pogba has played for the last year he doesn’t even merit a place in the starting 11. If it wasn’t for his commercial/ social media value the club would be working much harder to shift him out. Also, our relationship with Real Madrid is horrendous and I can’t see us ever selling anyone to them under the current environment. I saw Spanish reports that Barcelona were interested and perhaps we could get some players from them in exchange. De Jong would be my top choice, he’s come into some criticism from the Catalan media recently and when that happens then 90% of the time it doesn’t work out well for the player.


16.) 17 Oct 2020 08:07:26
Not sure Real will be Pogba's next destination, aren't they prioritising Mbappe, a right winger and Camavinga next summer?


17.) 18 Oct 2020 06:50:00
He wouldn’t excel anywhere dsg he’s a no good drama queen.


 

 

07 Oct 2020 17:41:33
So according to Fabrizio Romano United intended to sell Pogba to Juventus and bring in Sancho as the big name player to replace him. That would fit with the club signing DvdB who is more of a Pogba replacement.

However, Juventus couldn't raise the funds and as such never followed through with their interest.

Which may have had a bearing on the Sancho deal.


1.) 07 Oct 2020 18:28:32
That makes so much sense - gutted we couldn’t get it done. At least it’s reassuring knowing pogba was intendeded to be sold.


2.) 07 Oct 2020 18:41:25
From January he's free to sign a pre nup with any foreign team. The chance to sell him was this summer. Would be mad if Juventus signed him on a free 2and time.


3.) 07 Oct 2020 19:35:19
Think United can trigger an extra year I am sure Ed002 may have mentioned it but I could be wrong.


4.) 07 Oct 2020 19:42:03
Should have gone last summer. Hopefully we don’t give him another deal just so that we don’t lose him for free.


5.) 07 Oct 2020 20:09:45
Didnt Juve spend over €100million on two midfielders, Artur and Kulusevski in the last window. Sounds like the cash was there if they really wanted Pogba.

{Ed002's Note - No, Arthur was offset by Pjanic. Kulusevski was purchased prior to the pandemic.}


6.) 07 Oct 2020 20:15:11
surley the juve staff could have a whip round for 20 quid.


7.) 07 Oct 2020 20:21:54
Would triggering the extra year with the intention of selling him be classed as profiteering as Ed002 has mentioned before? I don't understand and try to stay clear of the complicated stuff maybe someone could educate me.

{Ed002's Note - Clubs are not allowed to profiteer. They can extend contracts and strike a deal.}


8.) 07 Oct 2020 20:30:08
Thanks Ed, is Fabrizio is basically correct?

{Ed002's Note - I have no idea what he has said but if he told you this he does not understand the situation with these players.}


9.) 07 Oct 2020 20:34:06
That does make sense. But be careful guys, doesn't that suggest our board and manager are not as stupid or inept as they are painted in the media?

Planning for the future and repairing bad decisions? Whatever next, if we aren't careful we might just see plans to source the worlds beat prospects, loan out our talent and not lose them at the end of their deals, reintegrate the ones who shine, and get the ones who don't off our books for a nice little earner we can put into prooer investment in the stadium surrlunding infrastructure, scouting, player acquisitions and uograded training facilities.

Increasing the value of the asset? Having a plan staribg us inbthe fce but we are so busy whining we havebt won the keague we dobt notice?

What a ridiculous thought.

I wish the manager would come out and say whether he believes we should expect to win the league this year, or for the Board to say in advance of the transfer window what we should expect given there is a C.V. so we could show some faith rather than negativity and let the media turn us toxic again! OH, wait a minute.


10.) 07 Oct 2020 20:45:22
I really don't understand the profiteering thing.

I assume it means that the club can't extend the contract by the additional year just so they can sell the player and make a profit.

But if we did extend it and an offer came it, I assume we could still accept it.

Ed02, can you explain the concept in a bit more detail or perhaps point to another source worth reading?

{Ed002's Note - The concept is that you cannot extend to make money but if the player is sold the profit, or a negotiated profit, would go to him.}


11.) 07 Oct 2020 23:48:31
Surely nobody is going to pay £89m for Pogba?


12.) 08 Oct 2020 08:13:27
My understanding of profiteering is that if you have a player like Pogba say, who has a year left on his contract but the club has an option to activate for a further year. Now in theory Pogba could leave for free next summer and receive a large signing on bonus as he is moving on a Bosman. However, if the club activate his year extension only to sell him and make some money thus negating the signing on fee Pogba would receive that is considered profiteering.

Only activating the contract extension to make a profit.

With Pogba United only have three options left.

1. Let him leave for free next summer.

2. Offer him a new deal, either with the intention of him staying here long term or with an agreement to sell him for a fixed fee.

3. activate the one year extension and keep an unhappy player for a further year before losing them on a free.

Ideally the best option for the club now would be to give him an extension and agree to sell him for a set price. He would need to be compensated for that, probably with very high wages, or an agreement that he receives a larger percentage of the transfer fee.


13.) 08 Oct 2020 09:32:55
Don't know if this kind of post is kosher but maybe this is worth a read for those of us who have a genuine interest in how things work.


Transfers report


14.) 08 Oct 2020 11:35:21
Juventus probably ran a mile after seeing his pathetic performances over the last 2 season. I wouldn't pay a million for him, he is sh*t!


15.) 08 Oct 2020 12:15:21
Sim, the sad thing is he isn't. He just isn't suited to being the player you build your team around.

Pogba is better suited to being the luxury player you add to an already great team, the player who can add a touch of magic and win those tight games. But he will make mistakes and be defensively lax.

If he goes to Juventus he will be a success there.


16.) 08 Oct 2020 14:03:25
Shappy he is rubbish. nothing you can tell me will change my mind so stop wasting your time. He's been absolute garbage for 2-3 seasons now. Get a grip!


17.) 08 Oct 2020 14:33:28
This is odd considering Romano spent the whole summer insisting Pogba was happy at United and contract talks would begin after the window closes.


18.) 08 Oct 2020 15:28:15
Romano is full of crap. gets the odd bit tight but even a broken clock is right twice a day.
He makes a fortune through social media. fair play to him he is a bigger con merchant that ole.


19.) 08 Oct 2020 16:27:46
ken, I strongly disagree.
FR is one of the very best and reliable.
Each and every one of his update this transfer window has been absolutely spot on.


20.) 08 Oct 2020 16:23:15
Sim, no player has scored and assisted more goals than Pogba since he joined the club. If he is rubbish then every other member of the squad is more rubbish than him.

If you were to say he doesn't live up to the hype, or that there are clear faults in his game then fair enough. If you want to question whether the club should be holding on to player who doesn't want to be here, or a player who played an active role in getting a manager sacked then celebrated it. Then I'm with you 100%.

But to say he isn't a talented footballer, despite all his managers, coaches, pundits and fellow players all appreciating his ability. Just makes you seem like you know very little about football.

Pogba hasn't lived up to the hype, and he isn't interested in being here and the time for the club to cut their losses has long since past. But the guy has more natural talent in his left leg than pretty much everyone else in our squad.

Pogba is a very good player, potentially great. We as a club just haven't been able to give him the platform he needs to get the best out of him. That's partially his fault for not working hard enough on eliminating the weaknesses in his game, that's partially the managers fault for not getting the best out of him and that's partially the club's fault for not creating a team in which he can thrive.


21.) 08 Oct 2020 18:18:45
Snappy I think it’s fair to say that Pogba was decent. But for the past 18 months to two years he’s been a terrible footballer. Actually he’s consistently put in some of the worse performances I’ve seen in a United shirt. If that means I know nothing about football than fair enough, but I can’t understand how anyone can defend him.


22.) 08 Oct 2020 18:37:18
Shappy what more could we do to create an environment for pogba? Near enough every signing has been to “unlock” him. He’s got all the ability in the world, there’s not much he can’t do with a ball. The frustrating thing is he doesn’t do it for 90mins. His best moments in the United shirt was the city game. Where he was god awful first half.

I don’t think he’s a bad fella at all, but he’s not someone I want Hannibal mejbri for example to be looking up too. He throws his arms about when he loses the ball, doesn’t work hard enough without it either. If he played simple and released the ball early he’d be fantastic, but he’s more interested in looking good. His start to this season has been nothing short of a disgrace. The sooner he’s gone the better for him and for us as a club.


23.) 08 Oct 2020 19:27:39
Pogba is similar to Mesut Ozil for me. Ridiculous amount of talent but lacking the desire to be the best.
Ironically, they are both World Cup winners. I honestly think the problem is players now are so rich that some just lose focus on football.
These guys have hit the very pinnacle of football and have money we could only dream of.
Both seem like decent enough guys who could’ve been up there with the best of their generation but neither will really be remembered as such.


24.) 08 Oct 2020 19:51:41
Ozil has achieved a lot more then Pogba has ever done.

Comparing Ozil and Pogba is laughable.

In regards to the original post, we need to just get rid of Pogba and build the team around a new CM like Niguez if we can get him and move forwqrd as a club once and for all.


25.) 08 Oct 2020 20:20:10
Why’s it laughable Singh?
Both players have bags of talent but have flattered to deceive.
What has Ozil achieved? 3 FA cups? La Liga?
Pogba has a few Scudetto’s and a Europa League medal.
This wasn’t my point though. I used Ozil as an example of another player who has the talent but won’t really be remembered for being a great player.


26.) 09 Oct 2020 00:19:32
Singh I think means Ozil played top level football for more years. Its not only about trophies. Ozil was top class for several years and Pogba is only about potential. Even at Juventus it was more about potential and some flashes more than a top player playing 90 minutes good football every week.


27.) 10 Oct 2020 15:35:48
I think it’s simple really. Pogba has lots of talent but only produces flashes of it because he just ain’t suited to the premier league. He needs a league such as serie a which is less intense/ fast so he has the time to shine. Would do well in the Spanish league too.


 

 

 

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08 Mar 2021 09:09:01
Great game, great result and great performance.

I don't think there are really any players who we could say should have or could have played better.

The game plan worked really well, the tactics were spot on and the players did their jobs.

Picking out a few performances, Shaw was excellent and has been all season. Really upped his game.

AWB shut down his flank no City players wanted to play on their left flank.

Martial had a very good performance and probably deserved a goal, he worked hard off the ball and brought others into play. If only he could perform like that every week.

Finally Dean Henderson, made 6 or 7 good saves, kept a clean sheet and his throw out that lead to Shaw's goal was something I haven't seen since big Pete was between the sticks. Fabulous to see and caught City off guard and played a big part in setting Shaw away. I also feel like his more vocal approach and command of his area helped keep our defence organised and tight against the most dangerous attacking side in the league. They broke through once or twice, but never looked like really scoring. Very impressive. If the rumours of PSG wanting DDG are true then I think Henderson looks ready to step in.


1.) 08 Mar 2021 09:17:43
Fred wasn't great my any means, and nothing I saw from Martial showed he worked hard off the ball. Quite a strange opinion in fact, as Bruno continues to sprint past Martial to close down their keeper.

But as I said further down there's no reason to pick out negatives after a derby win and one that ends their streak.

I think if DDG was playing yesterday we don't score that 2nd goal. The distribution from Henderson was positive and rather than constantly trying the short pass to Vic and Bob he was more aggressive. Great to see.

{Ed077's Note - Fred was how he is, as usual, running a lot, sometimes winning the ball and sometimes getting played around. Him struggling to control a ball or complete passes consistently is unrealistic expectation lol. He just doesnt have the ability/quality to do that.

I think its really imperative that we replace Fred ASAP, specially for games where teams sit back and defend deep. For example: Bissouma at Brighton offers most of the work ethic that Fred offers us but also is good with the ball.

Martial didnt "work hard" off the ball, but he was go when in possesion. I thought he was quite good myself. Him or Shaw MOTM for me.

Also I thought Henderson's kicking was a bit hit and miss.

But I havent re-watched the game so things might have been a bit different than what I remember:)


2.) 08 Mar 2021 09:39:38
Totally agree on Fred 77. I like a grafter but you expect a top CM to be able to control the ball with 1 touch and play the pass.

When I see Matic in possession I'm in no doubt that he's got full control of the situation and will do the right thing. Fred on the other hands controls the ball in the same way that he tackles. It's frantic. Replace him with an out and out DM and I think the team would improve a lot.


3.) 08 Mar 2021 09:33:38
Martials hold up was play was really good yesterday, also have to factor in he was playing against the best centre back partnership in the league this year in Stones and Dias, pity he didn't finish that easy chance as it would have capped an all round performance.

Yesterday didn't really tell us anything new and neither did palace, anytime we can bypass midfield and attack into space we are lethal, any time we actually have to build up play through midfield and be more methodical we struggle.

Defensively we were really good as well, that box of 4, MCFRED and lindelof and maguire always perform well when we sit deep and concede posession.


4.) 08 Mar 2021 11:12:16
Bissouma is a great shout, Ed. Been really impressed with him under Potter.

{Ed077's Note - Ed001 loves him so he must be worth a shot. He is the nearest thing to Kante IMO.


5.) 08 Mar 2021 11:29:44
Agree Ed077, I like Fred as he gives everything every game.
But we need an upgrade on him to challenge at the top.

Bissouma is a good choice, but I feel Rice is what we need at the base of our midfield.

{Ed077's Note - but Rice might just be too expensive this summer, specially if WHU finish in a European place


 

 

04 Mar 2021 20:06:32
So it appears that Rashford is again playing with an injury. This time his shoulder has an issue and may need an operation after the Euro's.

He gets a lot of stick on here when his form dips, yet more often than not it's because he is carrying an injury and playing through the pain barrier.

Top young player, top attitude and a top man.


1.) 04 Mar 2021 20:19:49
Shappy

How do you view the manager overplaying him then, knowing he is injured?


2.) 04 Mar 2021 20:22:59
That means Ole is managing him poorly.
Kudos to Rashy though.


3.) 04 Mar 2021 20:24:23
If he needs surgery then it should be done sooner rather than later? How long would the operation keep him out for?


4.) 04 Mar 2021 21:25:06
Haha how to get from a post to Ole managing poorly in 3 simple steps.


5.) 04 Mar 2021 21:43:47
GDS2. If he's struggling with an injury that is affecting his performances, it should be addressed no?

Why wait until after the Euros?

And if he is playing in pain, why is he playing every game? Should he not be managed a bit better?


6.) 04 Mar 2021 22:13:45
Tony adams played through injury for years. His back was gone but had injections and played threw it.


7.) 04 Mar 2021 22:41:42
I am sorry for him if he has a shoulder injury. I have a problem on my both shoulders and i did a surgery in one of them. But this is not an excuse for being selfish or going straight at defenders etc. At Chelsea one more time he desided to shoot from left corner having bodys in front of him instead of giving the ball at Lindelof (? ) who was outside their box alone. He didn't even said i am sorry after that.
That said its not like he will have more damage if he continue to play. But my personal opinion is that if he is going to have a surgery then it better to do it now because if he fix his tenond the full restoration will be about 6 months.


8.) 05 Mar 2021 01:27:31
Perhaps it’s just a minor injury that he can play through and then get sorted after the euro’s, as Herrera says it’s not making it worse playing with it so it’s not an issue.


9.) 05 Mar 2021 06:34:40
GDS2 to be fair buddy, its either of 2 things - If Rashford's injury as you say isn't that big and can be sorted after the Euros then that means he is actually playing very very poorly, for a while now. OR secondly if he is carrying an injury and the manager insists on playing him regularly then its poor management. Whatever suits your narrative mate. Its either Rashford is bad or Ole is.


10.) 05 Mar 2021 12:55:06
United Addict i too don't see it as a big excuse for playing crap football. Personally i think that maybe it doesn't affect him at all. Althought the problem is that he can't make some exercises in the training ground. In any case it is something needs fixing and Novak Djokovic suffered around a year from his shoulder.


 

 

04 Mar 2021 12:05:05
Rumours DDG might be out for around a month for some reason. The club said he didn't play for a personal reason last night.

Yet rumours surfacing that the club have told Dean Henderson to prepare to start the next 6 games before last night.


1.) 04 Mar 2021 13:02:15
If DDG went to Spain as rumoured would he not have to quarantine in a hotel when coming back because he would be out of the bubble?

{Ed002's Note - No.}


2.) 04 Mar 2021 15:02:29
Spain isn't on the red list (I don't think) .


 

 

04 Mar 2021 06:58:34
I can't wait for the weekend to watch the absolute meltdown on here.

Yes we have been poor for the last few games especially. Really struggled in attack. Bruno looks exhausted and needs a break. As do a few others.

But if people think 3 0-0 draws are bad then they are going to lose their minds when we lose to Man City this weekend.

City are the most in form team in the world. They have by far the best defence in the league and atm we can't buy a goal. No way we will score. While they are also top scorers and our defending could take centre stage at the Edinburgh Fringe festival.

Atm I'd be surprised if we could restrict them to just 3 goals.


1.) 04 Mar 2021 07:41:22
Shappy, so you mean you don't trust Ole and the team to get a result?

Form goes out of the window in a derby.

This is the same City who are winning consistently without their best striker.
Therefore our club should also adapt and find creative ways to challenge up top.


2.) 04 Mar 2021 07:43:38
TrueRedDevil, "adapt and find creative ways" doesn't sound like a Ole plan to me.


3.) 04 Mar 2021 07:46:28
Bruno (along with Rashford) has needed a break for months now, most of us have been saying it, but Ole persists with his favourites and as a result we look knackered.

I keep saying that persistence will cost him his job.

3 x 0-0’s in a row. Absolute borefest. For weeks now it seems Luke Shaw is our best player.

There’s every chance we go 4 games without scoring this Sunday.


4.) 04 Mar 2021 07:53:20
Sadly I have to agree LPU.
I hoped Ole would learn on the job as the season progresses, but our play style especially the past few weeks have been absolute dross.

Ole said when he used to be a sub during his playing days, he would study the opponent and make an impact while coming on.
But the same Ole refuses to bring subs on while managing.


5.) 04 Mar 2021 08:08:49
What point are you making shappy? I won't be surprised if we beat City, most their wins have been very lucky and we got better players apart from their defence.

The issue we have is that we got a joke of a manager in Ole and our cbs our pants.

The best team in europe is Psg or Munich and one of them will win the champs league this yewr and it will most probs be Munich.


6.) 04 Mar 2021 08:14:14
So why are you looking forward to the meltdown Shappy? I don't get why it would bring you joy knowing we've just been beat off City. Do you think it's fair that we are constantly served up this drivel yet constantly told its ok because Ole is improving us, Jose was hounded out the club for these type of performances. Ole doesn't have the balls to use his squad and players are now looking tired Rashford was a waste of space last night but played the full 90 and do we really need two holding midfielders against Palace? The fact is from the position we were in 8 games ago we should be challenging for the league now and it goes back to the game at Anfield which if we went at Liverpool and win that game the lift and energy it would of gave the squad would of maybe pushed us on to getting more points but oles safety approach has killed any momentum as its become glaringly obvious he's happy to settle for top 4 which is we will ever get under him. I don't want that, I hate the fact we are now a top 4 club some seasons with no title challenge in us, oles good runs followed by bad runs will never ever get us to that point.


7.) 04 Mar 2021 08:15:39
I think we might win. It's out pattern, we fail when it matters and win when it doesn't.


8.) 04 Mar 2021 08:49:58
Joke of a post shappy.
Looking forward to us having a certain loss according to you by s minimum of 3 goals and you can't wait to see the reaction.
Id be a lot more interested in watching the teams reaction to 3 crap 0 0 draws.


9.) 04 Mar 2021 08:56:52
Shappy, come on mate! If we lose to city I don’t think people will complain as much as drawing 0-0 agains a Crystal Palace with injuries to their best players. I don’t know how you can watch us this seasons and be happy with what you see!

We’ve maybe had 4 good games this season and have been lucky or horrible for the rest of the season. We are second because of the collapse of all the teams around us and not because of anything Ole has done.

It took him 73 mins to make any changes yesterday, how are you happy about that?

We looked like we were playing for a draw, two defensive midfielders against Crystal Palace, taking our time on throw ins, passing it around like we are in a training session rather than going for a win.

You can’t blame fans for not being happy with the team, the games have been boring, horrible. I still tune in and support the team, but after the game I’m allowed to not be happy with the performance.

We can lose to Man City, but we shouldn’t be dropping points against Crystal Palace, West Brom, Sheffield United etc.


10.) 04 Mar 2021 09:20:57
TrueRedDevil, while form can go out the window for Derby games I severely doubt it will for this one. We are in poor form due to exhaustion. That won't change before this game.

Wazza, we have all seen that the players need a rest, but the drop off in quality when we rest players like Bruno and Rashford to the likes of Mata and James is huge. I suggested resting players for cup games and focusing on the league. But most thought that was a "defeatist" attitude and that we should be Manchester United and go out to win every game with our strongest side. Maybe my attitude in hindsight was more realist rather than defeatist.

Singh, pass me a pair of those rose tinted glasses or a pint of whatever you're drinking if you think only City's defence is better than anything bin our team.
Do you really think Fred, McTominay and Pogba are better than Rodri, Gundogan and KDB? I mean really?
Or that Sterling, Aguero, Mahrez, Bernardo Silva, and Jesus are worse players than Cavani, Martial, Rashford, Greenwood, and James?
Is DDG a better keeper currently than Ederson?
I'd argue that Bruno is the only player in our squad that would seriously challenge for a starting spot in City's strongest 11. I'm not sure many of even the most ardent United supporters would disagree with that comment either.

Derby, will I enjoy losing to City? Absolutely not, and I hope we can get a result, I really do. But as for United and this forum they are very different things. I now find it hilarious to see everyone throw their toys out the pram after a draw let alone a loss. So while I'll be as annoyed and upset with a lose as anyone else. It will bring a smile to my face to read comments from grown men crying about a football result online like it'll make any difference 😂

Ken, no the joke is the posters who think their comments on here make any difference to the fate of our football club. Grown men crying on the internet over failing to score a goal. Frankly it's hilarious. I'm not looking forward to the spanking I expect we'll get this weekend, and I dearly hope we can win. But every cloud has a silver lining.

Either United win, I get to celebrate and watch all the Old outers go quite and begrudgingly be happy with a win. Or United lose and I laugh at grown men acting like little school girls.


11.) 04 Mar 2021 09:44:00
It wouldn't surprise me one bit if we beat them. It's typical of this team.


12.) 04 Mar 2021 09:54:00
That's a sad old life in fairness shappy, can't wait for a meltdown on here 😂.


13.) 04 Mar 2021 09:59:33
Wow shappy that last paragraph makes you look a right tit.


14.) 04 Mar 2021 10:20:35
Angel, I genuinely find it funny that men old enough to be my dad come on here crying over every poor result. Everyone's got to get their kicks right?

Ken, well then maybe I look like all the Ole outers now.

{Ed077's Note - and here I was thinking Shappy was older than Ed025 😜}


15.) 04 Mar 2021 10:41:28
What’s your point Shappy? Are you happy with the state of our coaching staff and (cough) manager? He hasn’t progressed through the Dummies Guide to Managing as quickly as needed. It looks like the first few chapters have confused him.

He certainly hasn’t read any chapters relating to effective substitutions, rotation of out of form players, resting players in dead-rubbers or. actually virtually any aspect of player management.

Fact is he throws eleven guys out on the pitch hoping they can muster a performance based upon individual moments of brilliance. It’s woeful. He’s regressing in to the worst manager we’ve had. Argue about position in the table as much as you like because we won’t be top-4 (which is a sickening goal to be satisfied by) at the end of the season.


16.) 04 Mar 2021 10:46:37
Shappy your always hiding the players and ole behind excuses. Exhaustion, give us a rest. Here is it, the reason we’ve won 3 from our last 10. is because the manager is Sh*Te and so are half the players. They can’t be arsed to earn their £200k a week and people like you accepting it left them off the hook.


17.) 04 Mar 2021 11:31:18
BadRedDevil, Ole has performed about on par with Moyes, LvG and Jose. So did they not read the dummies guide to management either?

The truth is simple, the problems filter down from the top. No direction, no vision, they only invest enough to keep the club in the sweet spot to keep the UCL and sponsor money rolling in.

Until something higher up changes there is little point changing managers. The new guy will get a new manager bounce, maybe a little money to bring in their 4th or 5th choice players, then they'll scrape top four and the investment will dry up. Then they will have to keep a half built squad in 3rd or 4th, eventually the fans will be sick of that, turn on that manager and they'll be sacked and we'll start the cycle again.

So sure shout for Ole's head, I'll bet £1000 that within 3 years we'll be back in the same situation we are in now and you'll want the new manager sacked.

Stand, you think exhaustion is an excuse and the reason we haven't won our last 3 games is because the manager and the players are useless. Yet how does that explain the previous games which got us up to 2nd in the league. It doesn't.

The truth is simple we haven't rotated players enough and now they are exhausted. I said this might be an issue back in October. So let's not pretend no one could foresee this. The sad fact is that the back up players are a big drop off in quality from the first choice options, so the moment we rotate 3 or 4 players out of the first team we suddenly look a lot weaker.

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18.) 04 Mar 2021 11:52:30
Amen to that ed002, a much better squad. He's out of his league unfortunately.

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19.) 04 Mar 2021 15:00:17
Apologies ed025.

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03 Mar 2021 09:07:48
Accidentally his send too soon.

Either way now Ole has come out in the press and said that the C.V. has affected everyone and the club will need to dial back on spending this summer.

He went on to say it's a great chance for some of the academy lads to step up and make a push for the first team.

So with that pretty much confirmed what is everyone's view on the summer transfer market, maybe 1 or 2 key signings, 3 at most by the looks of it. What it the priority and what positions can we afford to delay a signing in?


1.) 03 Mar 2021 09:22:25
Theres more issues than just signings.
A CB is a must, Ole has to play x2 DM because he doesn't trust his CB, s, I certainly don't, so a top class CB would be 1, who I don't know.
DdG out, Deano in, or very least Deano starts every week.
Sort out the Pogba situation, personally sell, would rather see Donny in there, 5 mins here and there or the odd game in a much changed line up is hardly enough to see the best of DvdB, wouldn't touch Grealish with a bargepole.
I think Cavani stays another year so we won't purchase a CF, not sure we could get Haaland now anyway.
Leaving the RW position, as it is I think Greenwood is the best one out there but he should be learning off Cavani, so we need balance there, Sancho being the obvs one we have been after, Dortmund will likely sell.
Martial needs moving on.

{Ed077's Note - am I the only one who doesnt see much sense in pursuing Sancho for around 80m without even taking into account the huge agent fee?}


2.) 03 Mar 2021 09:37:52
Not saying we will spend a fortune by any means- but I always take what a manager says in the press with a huge pinch of salt. Just a week ago he was talking about the backing he has in the market. I like the idea of some of the kids being promoted to the squad but IMO they’ll take the squad role of someone like mata, lingard and anyone else we can move on.


3.) 03 Mar 2021 09:40:31
If Varane can be persuaded (only an year left on his contract), I'd swap him with Pogba.
Get Declan Rice with Lingard and some money.
Then go all out for Haaland.


4.) 03 Mar 2021 09:58:54
GK - Covered - Two first team Options
LB - Covered - Two first team Options
RB - Half Covered - 1 first team and a lot of "potential cover"
CB - Overstaffed and under-skilled - Get rid of 2 bring in 1 - Must Recruit
CDM - 3 options, none are top level but good enough for now
CM/ CAM - enough cover and options here
LW - Rashford and Martial - Covered
ST - Cavani/ Greenwood/ Martial - Would let Martial go and have someone to replace
RW - Greenwood/ James/ Diallo - all Young and raw

If we could only bring in one or two this summer, I'd say we need a CB and then an attacker atm.

Martial/ Jones/ Bailly/ Mata/ Lingard/ Andreas/ Romero to go.

I'd look to bring in De Vrij at CB and Sancho at RW/ LW.


5.) 03 Mar 2021 10:06:35
Ed077,

I'm glad Utd didn't buy him last Summer. He has a attitude problem aswell.

Diallo, Pellestri and Greenwood can play RW. i'd would make more sense to sort out defence once and for all.

Would you sell Maguire? I think he has been a very poor signing.

{Ed077's Note - no. Not now. Maguire is the only CB currently at the club who doesnt have any injury issue. At least he stays fit and available for most games. It doesnt matter how good a player is if he struggles to even play 5 games at a time without getting ruled out for 2 months

But I dont rate Maguire at all. But the club wont want to sell him at a massive loss and I dont see anybody coming in for HM even at 40m(half of what he was bought for).}


6.) 03 Mar 2021 10:36:13
Caolan, Ordinarily I'd agree that what a manager says to the press needs to be taken with a pinch of salt. In this case however I think it makes a lot of sense. When you think about the huge sums of money lost due to a lack of match day revenue, the fact the club is cancelling contracts to save what is in the grand scheme of things a pittance to a club our size, suggests that purse strings will be kept tight this summer.
On top of that historically we spend significantly less money when we qualify for the UCL than we spend if we don't. Which suggests the club is happy to invest to get us to a certain level, but once there sees little point in further investment. We have never spent more than 100m for example in a season where we have made top 4. So will we spend more than 100m this summer if we finish 2nd or 3rd and with the impacts of C.V.?

{Ed077's Note - Shaps the club has cancelled contracts of players who were never getting played. You seem to bring that up like they've gone on cancelling contracts of half the club.

Phil Jones and Sergio Romero are earning somewhere around 150-200k a week combined without even making the bench all this season.

BTW I am not saying C.V hasnt caused big financial impacts all round.}


7.) 03 Mar 2021 11:03:02
We will see Shappy. Off course there will be implications but it will be interesting to see. The club need to be creative and potentially more open to swap deals like Ed2 has told we haven’t been interested in. As mentioned above a pogba/ varane swap could suit both parties and really improve our side. Huge summer ahead where we need to show some ambition.


8.) 03 Mar 2021 11:03:11
Forward positions - Get rid of Martial who will easily get you 40 million plus. Then go all out for Haaland. Keep Cavani for another season and keep developing Greenwood.

Midfield - we need a top class midfielder. We need a clever midfielder that is able to keep the ball and is able able to create chances and open up defences. They don't necessary need to be great at tackling and have to get up and down. You look at City's midfielders and they are all clever players with the ball. They very rarely give it away and most of them are not great tacklers like Mahrez, B. Silva, KDB and Foden. It's all about getting the right balance.
I am still keen on Sancho but that's just being greedy and i doubt very much that Dortmund would sell both Sancho and Haaland to us.

Defense - If we can maybe steal Varane and swap Pogba (if he still wants to leave) i would take that in a heartbeat.


9.) 03 Mar 2021 11:04:16
When looking at the accepted positions most fans feel the need for investment in (CB, CDM, RW, ST, RB) and looking at which younger players could be asked/ expected to step up and play some minutes there is Williams and Laird at RB. Greenwood, Diallo and Pellistri at RW. maybe Garner at CDM, although I think he needs another year on loan, same foe Laird if I'm honest.

The young players we have could mostly cover RB and RW fairly easily. Then if we extend Cavani's contract then we have Martial, Rashford, Cavani and Greenwood who can play as a ST then maybe that is a position we could delay for a season.

I think we need to seriously look at CB and CDM, our big weakness is in defence. Second most goals scored after City scored 4 last night, but only Liverpool and Everton in the top 10 have conceded more. Considering we have only conceded 2 goals less than a Liverpool side who have had nearly every CB out injured for the whole season is a concern. We need a top class CB and a top class CDM, and we can't afford to scrimp or go for our 4th or 5th choices because they are cheaper. There should be no compromise in these positions.

If there is any money for a third signing then I'd look for a creative player who can play RW and No.10. I am concerned that Bruno is the main source of creativity in the final third, so having someone else who can create and/ or cover for him if needed would be great. There is no sense in going for someone like Jadon Sancho, but there could be sense in going for someone cheaper if the budget could stretch that far.


10.) 03 Mar 2021 11:46:36
I woukd guess C. V will have some effect on transfers.
How much was spent in January?
Can teams expect massive sums for their players like in previous seasons?
Can agents expect as much if there isn't as much money knocking about?


11.) 03 Mar 2021 11:55:24
Second most goals scored in the league and most conceded out of the top 10 . And people say its dull watching united . 😉.


12.) 03 Mar 2021 12:29:28
When you give some stats you must make a conclusion too. So what's the conclusion? We play attacking entertaining free scoring football and because we are so open we concede a lot too? So is it a case of us being like Bielsas Leeds?
It reminds Joses interview, when his Real team broke the record for most goals scored, when he tried to defend his defencive play and said that "look how many did we scored".

{Ed001's Note - they still trot out that statistic in defence of Jose's dire football on TV. It is an anomaly, nothing more, which is why stats are so difficult to use in football, there are simply not enough games played over the course of a season to iron out statistical anomalies. That is why players and even teams can have flash-in-the-pan seasons.} Become a Patron!


13.) 03 Mar 2021 12:23:57
Ed077, I've made a lot of it because it's something we have never seen before from these owners.

Ed Woodward has been reluctant to sell "assets" below their spreadsheet value as that is bad business, even if that means keeping a player who rarely plays on a big contract draining wages.

The club have extended deals for players like Jones and Rojo even giving them pay rises even though they rarely play, but to make sure a club asset doesn't leave for free.

So to go from that mindset to agreeing to pay up so much of a players contract so they can leave on a free is a massive change in mentality. Especially as the player involved had a deal agreed t move to Everton for around 16m which then fell through when United demanded an extra 2m apparently. Suggesting they valued Rojo at 18m. So to pay him to leave to save a few hundred thousand maybe a million shows a very drastic change in stance.

{Ed077's Note - I dont think the decision to let Sanchez leave on a free was dictated by the economic strain caused by C.V.

Rojo wasnt even in England for months/years before he was allowed to join Boca Juniors for free this past window.

Am I missing someone else?}


14.) 03 Mar 2021 12:57:06
That there are a lot of goals scored in our matches.


15.) 03 Mar 2021 12:48:32
Ed001 you put words in my thoughts. Thank you, that's what i was thinking.
Additionally i would say that you can score a lot of goals in a single season without being entertaining, not even attacking. I think of that Real team as the best counter attacking team with Ronaldo Di Maria Benzema Higuain and Ozil pulling the string if i remember correctly. Lot of quality pace and good passes there. And that season i think it was the last season (or one of last) that Ronaldo played more like a pacey inside forward than a striker.

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16.) 03 Mar 2021 13:12:11
I too believe he had a fantastic squad and (for me) maybe the best version of Ronaldo. I know he scores a lot of goals but i liked him more when he scared defenders with dribbles pace and tricks. Thanks a lot Ed001. Jred you didn't said that but its ok.

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17.) 03 Mar 2021 13:26:25
I'm with True. Varame and Rice in, Pogba and Jesse out. Then try amd find a proper goalscorer.


18.) 03 Mar 2021 13:40:42
Couldn't care less who we sign or don't sign to be honest. I'm not sure it will make any difference.


19.) 03 Mar 2021 14:06:21
Ajh
I think we either need to keep pogba or find another creative player.
Someone else to pull the strings because there is to much emphasis on bruno .
Popgba and bruno in the team means more room for one of them, teams can't single out pogba it leaves room for bruno and vice versa.


20.) 03 Mar 2021 14:31:17
Ken, you mean like how Bruno has made no difference?


21.) 03 Mar 2021 14:43:36
Shapps and jred, Mejbri is a creative gem who is promoted to first team.
I think we should groom him and spend mainly on fixing the leaky defense.


22.) 03 Mar 2021 14:55:10
TrueRedDevil, I wouldn't be in support for "grooming" any of the kids in our academy.


23.) 03 Mar 2021 14:57:17
Mijbri
Looks a talent lad but still a bit off imo . Fingers crossed tho.


24.) 03 Mar 2021 14:58:16
True
I should add that I'm not sure if mejbri would bd thd answer next season if pogba leaves.


25.) 03 Mar 2021 18:45:26
Agree it looks to me like mejbri looks a bit off just now but at his age 6 months can show huge improvement. i'd not be looking at him just yet. With any luck he will show the patience of the likes of foden who is a great example of a talented lad giving himself time to mature and gain experience.
Will pogba leave? Who knows he might sit tight for a year and sign a pre contract with somebody in Jan. Will the club offer him a new contract? Not too many will fork out a big fee this summer. Nor can many afford his wages.
Jred pointed out how easy it is to shut us down by shutting bruno down. We lack another creative player is harder to shut 2 creative players down. Pogba was being squeezed into the team in odd positions at times but he did open doors at times when bruno was shut down.


26.) 03 Mar 2021 19:13:02
1.) RW
2.) CB
3.) Backup RB

If donny steps up or pogba stays, makes the need for a midfielder less important.

If cavani stays and is at the same level, makes a ST less important.

We still have the likes of dalot, pereira, lingard, williams, axel who could be sold to make space on the wage bill.

Its going to be an interesting summer as everyone knows CV will affect finances. Its not just you shappy that is clairvoyant lol.


 

 

 

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08 Mar 2021 07:52:06
Okay, I'll revise that, we are Arsenal of 10 years ago. A declining club that used to challenge for titles, but now it's main aim is the top four trophy 😂.


 

 

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06 Mar 2021 18:07:21
I strongly suspect manager severance packages are tied in to UCL qualification. Ergo if we finish top 4 it would likely cost more to sack the manager.

But like I said, it really doesn't matter what style we play to the owners. They don't watch the matches, they just want the money that UCL qualification brings in, along with the tied in sponsorship deals.

As long as the manager achieves that he will be here as our manager.

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06 Mar 2021 07:39:03
You just need to ask "what constitutes success for the board and the owners they work for? "

While Ole might in the eyes of most fans be the worst manager we have had since Sir Alex, he looks set to be the only one to manage successive top four finishes.

Since pretty much all past United managers have been sacked when the club failed to achieve a top four finish, I think its clear what the club's ambition is.

The club are already putting out stories to dampen fans expectations in the summer transfer market. Historically they have always spent significantly less in the summers after UCL qualification has been secured. This year they get to do it but blame the C.V. for hitting finances (which it definitely has) .

We are a cash cow for our owners, their ambition is simple only invest enough to keep the money rolling in. That's why there is no investment in the stadium, as it doesn't increase revenue. They'll spend on players when they have to in order to get top four.

We are Arsenal now. Get used to it. No doubt at some point Ole will get the sack, maybe next season if he doesn't get top four, or the year after if he does. Basically he will be our manager until we fail in the eyes of the owners.

Then the next guy will come in and he'll be tasked with the same remit, get top four and keep your job. If you can win a cup or even a title then great. But they won't getting financial backing in the years they make top four, so sustained success seems unlikely.


 

 

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04 Mar 2021 16:52:17
Wazza, While clubs might have to accept a bit less than two years ago most clubs will have a lot less.

I guess the proof will be in the pudding, if in August the club have spent 150m+ I'll have egg on my face, if they spend less than 70m then you'll have egg on yours.


 

 

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04 Mar 2021 14:26:16
Wazza, do we need bargains or genuine top class well scouted players who'll exactly fit our need?

I think our recruitment has been an absolute shambles, and I don't think the best way to improve that is to buy players who might be out 5th or 6th choice or might not even be a genuine target at all because they are cheap or we could "take advantage" of another sides misfortune.

If a player who is first choice for a key position after months if not years of scouting is available for a reduced price then fantastic.

But if we are just buying them because they are cheap then that's a terrible way to go.

Last summer we signed DvdB because he had a buy out clause which meant we got him "cheaply" even though he wasn't our first choice or played in a similar way to our first choice.

In hindsight was the 40m we paid for him a bargain or a waste of money?

{Ed077's Note - who told you DvdB had a buyout? I am not disputing it just that this is the first time I've heard it mentioned.

I don't care whether we pay 80m or 8m for a player as long as the player performs well for the team. And I don't care whether he was first choice or 10th as long as the signing works .}


 

 

 

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08 Mar 2021 15:26:24
Ed077, Rangnick has been a good manager, and Nargelsman looks a great prospect.

Yet in honesty is either anywhere near the level of manager that Pep is?

I mean don't get me wrong, if it was down to me I'd bring in Rangnick for a year or two as manager then have him step back into a DoF role and to pick his successor. Which is pretty much what Leipzig did to great success.

That way he'd fully know what the squad was capable of and what needed doing to improve it. While he knows how to pick managers with a similar philosophy to him to create a more seemless transition.

But that said neither are on Pep's level. Who has not just won but dominated every league he has managed in.

{Ed077's Note - Pep has also taken over the best teams/squads in the league as well. I could throw a dozen or so names at you Shoot but you will just say they aren't as good as Pep. I could easily point out that Pep hasn't even made a UCL final for a decade or so, even when taking over the treble winning Bayern team. Every manager has his flaws.


 

 

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08 Mar 2021 15:02:15
I think their pretty even atm. DDG is the better shot stopper, but Henderson commands his box better. Both could do with sharpening up their distribution.

That said, DDG has been declining for a good 2-3 years, whereas Henderson should improve.

So personally I'd pick Henderson over DDG and look to find a solution (move DDG on) in the summer. I also think Henderson's skill set is more useful with our current defenders who need clear instructions and a keeper who will command his area.


 

 

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08 Mar 2021 12:11:51
Ken, Pep is probably the best coach in the world right now with maybe only 2 or 3 coaches anywhere in the world who could be considered comparable to him. Klopp being one.

Name me another Pep and I'll go and convince him to join United myself.

{Ed077's Note - I will start with Julian Nagelsmann and Ralf Ragnick.

If they aren't appointed at the helm then no posts will be allowed by you for 24hrs Shappy😜🤣🤣


 

 

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08 Mar 2021 10:26:13
Singh, That makes little sense. So when we beat City that proves our players are better than City's. So does that mean when we lose to Sheffield United that their players are better than ours?

Fact is anyone can win a one off game, but the proof of how good your team is can be drawn out over the course of a season.

If City finish 20 points above us then their players are clearly much better, or at least their squad is much stronger. If we are to beat them over the course of the season then we will need a comparable squad. Simple as.


 

 

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06 Mar 2021 18:10:02
So what people are suggesting is an average manager can achieve unbelievable success if they have a great squad of players.

Hmmm, so if Ole is average then obviously we don't have a great squad of players? 😂.

{Ed014's Note - you have neither so it’s a little irrelevant