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03 Dec 2023 12:53:13
Heard a rumour today that United and Barcelona are exploring the possibility of swapping Sancho and Raphinha initially on loan, but with a possible view to it becoming a permanent deal if it works out.

If there is any truth to this then I think its a possible deal that could work out for all parties.

United and Sancho need to part ways, while Sancho probably doesn't want to take a step down/ backwards.

United really need someone who can lock down the RW spot, and Raphinha was one of the best RW players while at Leeds.

Unfortunately for him it seems Xavi doesn't quite rate him, despite him playing well when called upon.

Stylistically I tend to think that Sancho does fit better in a side like Barcelona and Raphinha in a side like United.

I'd be pretty happy if the club managed to pull something like this off, what is everyone else's view?

Shappy

1.) 03 Dec 2023 15:28:02
I mean I’d be delighted if we can pull that off. But I can’t see it.


2.) 03 Dec 2023 21:44:52
Sounds like a computer game transfer to me.


3.) 03 Dec 2023 21:52:43
Would rip your arm off for that deal but it’s all pie in the sky.


4.) 05 Dec 2023 01:58:03
We could do with new negotiators, or they might come back from Spain with a bunch of Rapini.


5.) 05 Dec 2023 09:07:03
Shappy

Wishful thinking. Why would Barcelona do that. He will end up somewhere in Italy as that's generally the league players end up when they don't work out in PL. He is not good enough for any of the top 3/ 4 teams in Spain and unaffordable for any in the next tier.

Its one of those players who will be hard to shift unless we take a bath on the transfer.


6.) 05 Dec 2023 21:09:51
Rumours today it’s Rashford ??‍♂️.


7.) 09 Dec 2023 20:22:57
I’d be happy if Rashford went tbh along with Sancho. The pair of ‘em aren’t bad players, as long as they get their own way. We aren’t currently in a place where we can carry talented babies though, so I’d get radical and get rid of the pair.


 

 

08 Jul 2023 14:41:19
DDG is gone, club just wished him well and said goodbye on Twatter.

Shappy

1.) 08 Jul 2023 14:49:36
Great servant, but right time for MU and himself to move on, some of the replies made my blood boil though, clearly not fans but even still. he's got my respect and wish him well in his next venture.


2.) 08 Jul 2023 15:22:56
He's big, he's brave he's Spanish Dave
He makes great saves, he never shaves,
Flying through the air
Come and have a shot if you dare!

He indeed has been a great servant as well as a true professional in his behaviors. He will inevitably divide some on opinions, but no one can doubt some of the class saves over the years (Mata's freekick)

Ed002, what teams would be interested? Roma? Saudi clubs?


3.) 08 Jul 2023 15:43:50
Our best player over the last 12 years, gutted he is going but it is the right time for him and the club.


4.) 08 Jul 2023 15:22:56
He's big, he's brave he's Spanish Dave
He makes great saves, he never shaves,
Flying through the air
Come and have a shot if you dare!

He indeed has been a great servant as well as a true professional in his behaviors. He will inevitably divide some on opinions, but no one can doubt some of the class saves over the years (Mata's freekick)

Ed002, what teams would be interested? Roma? Saudi clubs?

{Ed002's Note - David De Gea (G) If Mr Mourinho stays at Roma, then perhaps interest. Perhaps someone in Spain or the Middle East. Manchester United have a list of potential replacements but want a new contract.}


5.) 09 Jul 2023 07:07:25
Good time for both parties to move on. Clearly looked very uncomfortable under ETH’s system. That being said, a brilliant keeper for us over the years. Wish him all the best. Italy seems an obvious move in the absence of decent Spanish interest - or of course Saudi!


 

 

28 May 2023 09:30:51
Heard a rumour this morning that United might look at Benjamin Pavard from Bayern Munich, as well as closely monitoring the situation with Ryan Gravenberch.

Bayern yesterday sacked their CEO Oliver Kahn and their Sporting Director Hasan Salihamidzic, possibly opening the door for some players to leave who might have been intending to stay under the previous regime.

Pavard would be an interesting option, capable of playing both CB and RB he'd be a very good option.

Gravenberch too has great potential but just can't get the game time he needs with players like Kimmich and Goretzka ahead of him.

Shappy

1.) 28 May 2023 09:50:18
Think Ed002 said that Pavard is reluctant to consider us because he wants to play primarily as a cb.


2.) 28 May 2023 11:30:14
A RB who can also chip in at CB is a good shout, as is Frimpong.
I think Bayern have a number of players who should be of interest. I assume the Mount thing has legs and if so that would probably kill off any interest in Gravenberch and De Jong, and what of Sabitzer.


3.) 28 May 2023 12:13:02
Interesting thread this and might have legs as we know Erik likes players who can play multiple positions to limit the impact of injuries in the squad.


4.) 28 May 2023 13:25:20
Back in February, it was reported that his expected fee this summer could be £26.8m because his contract is up next year - that would amount to a bargain.

That said, it's likely that Bayern would still want more than that for a versatile defender approaching his prime.

The problem is that he wants to play CB and there can be no assurances offered by United that he'll be first-choice ahead of Varane.
He can play RB, but he might be reluctant about coming to a club where that could be his only consistent option.
That does also render Barcelona as a questionable option given that the superior Kounde is already playing RB to accommodate other players.

Personally, I'd expect him to move to a Serie A club.


5.) 28 May 2023 22:50:42
We really need to be looking at Gravenberch. I’m not sure if he’s even available but if he is and a a low price it’s a no brainier. Le fee is another player I hope we take a look at.


6.) 30 May 2023 10:44:36
varane missed 14 league games, went off 6 times, efl only played 90 mins in the final missed 4 games and subbed off once. Class act but never been consistantly fit for games throughout his career. Any cb coming in would get a minimum of 25 games a season if fit/ available.


 

 

25 Apr 2023 19:27:31
Evan Ferguson signs a new deal at Brighton, I think that rules him out this summer unless someone pays way over the top for him.

Shappy

1.) 25 Apr 2023 23:11:49
I think its the right move for him and Brighton. he's best off staying at Brighton where he can develop and grow.


2.) 26 Apr 2023 10:04:02
Not good enough. May well be in the future, but not now. We need the finished article, nothing less.


3.) 26 Apr 2023 16:20:51
Syd, I disagree. He's better than both Martial (due to being fit and available) and Weghorst. Ergo if we signed Ferguson he'd be the best striker at the club.

I'm not sure the finished article is what we need. We have a 3-5 year rebuild project on our hands. Much the same that both Klopp and Arteta had when they took over Liverpool and Arsenal respectively.

We need to be signing players who will peak over the next 2-6 years, players who are already at their peak will likely start to decline by the time we are ready to seriously challenge and thus will need replacing again.


4.) 27 Apr 2023 01:20:13
Ferguson may well be better than Martial and Weghorst. But all 3 are not good enough.

We need a finished article. Nothing less. Finished article, Premiership proven Kane or Naples' Big Os.

If we are to challenge for the title next season, then they are the two options.

No more potential nonsense. Time to bring in the next best thing after Haaland. Greenwood/ Rashford as back-up.


5.) 27 Apr 2023 18:25:40
Syd, we won't be challenging for the title next season, we are too far behind Arsenal let alone City. While Liverpool wil likely bounce back next year as well.


6.) 27 Apr 2023 21:34:24
You think we're too far behind arsenal shappy?

I think this season of there's has been a one off. They've been brilliant as a unit in their first 11, but they lose one or two then they struggle as we've seen recently.

And whilst they have had some of the best players in the league this season. I think it's just that, this season.

Saka, Odegaard, Saliba who have been outstanding aside, the rest don't impress that much. Partey has been good, as has Martinelli. And xhaka also has surprise me in his importance to the team. There's no denying the quality and potential.

But again, in the ecstasy of a possible unexpected title win I think arsenal fans and the media have overhyped a lot of their squad.

Claiming partey as the best dm in the league, Ben White as the best rb and comparing saka to the likes of mbappe vini jr and Messi are all examples of them being overhyped.

And with them having such a young squad, will they be able to handle the disappointment of bottling the league? Will it make them stronger next season for experiencing the title race? Or weaker for losing out after almost all season at the top?

On top of that, city although unreal will again invest. Liverpool I expect to rejuvenate. I expect we will invest appropriately. And we may even see chelseas mish mash of a squad finally gel.

It could go one way or the other, very easily. They could build on it, or they could struggle to get top 4 next season.

With a raw manager and a young squad on the back of disappointment. I'd lean more towards a struggle for them next season.


 

 

02 Apr 2023 10:59:55
Ed002, I see on another page you said Manchester United have reignited their interest in Khephren Thuram. I was wondering what other midfielders are of interest to the club for this summer?

Shappy

{Ed002's Note - Something like this:
Joao Palhinha (DM), Sergej Milinkovic-Savic (CM/AM/DM), Taylor Booth (CM) - looking unlikely, Khephren Thuram (DM/CM), Marcel Sabitzer (CM) - chances are drifting away, Frenkie de Jong (CM), Jude Bellingham (CM) - very unlikely, Manu Kouadio Kone (CM/DM) - in discussions to move elsewhere, Mason Mount (AM) - unlikely, Mohammed Kudus (AM).}


1.) 02 Apr 2023 13:16:14
Fantastic, thanks.


2.) 02 Apr 2023 15:35:30
So that's 10 midfielders, none of whom are likely to move to us. Amazing. ????.


3.) 02 Apr 2023 17:36:00
Personally I think we need someone more on the defensive side, if they are a good ball carrier that would be a massive plus.

I think with players like Bruno, Eriksen, the young lad Hannibal as well as players like Sancho and Amad who can play as a No.10 I think we have enough creative midfielders currently.

However, the drop off in Quality when Casemiro is out is massive. While the futures of both Fred and McTominay are up in the air.

Maybe letting one of McFred leave and signing one of Palhinha, Thuram or Kone from that bunch would give us more balanced midfield options.


4.) 02 Apr 2023 21:40:04
We def need cover for Casemeiro but what top player wants to sign as cover? More importantly we need to sign a midfielder who drives the team on and won't accept the limp displays like we saw today.


5.) 03 Apr 2023 07:14:42
Salford, I think Palhinha might be difficult to sign as at his age (27, 28 in July) he'll want to play regularly. However, younger players like Thuram or Kone who will both be 22 by the start of next season have time on their side to learn from Casemiro and eventually replace the 31 year old.


6.) 03 Apr 2023 08:02:31
Sabitzer now looking unlikely?


7.) 03 Apr 2023 08:07:26
Who is the other club who is in talks with Manu Kone?

Very good all action player.


8.) 03 Apr 2023 08:53:08
Interesting to see the stance on Sabitzer, and the chances of signing him drifting away as Ed puts it.
How does everyone feel about the player, should we be looking to get him permanently? He's clearly an upgrade but has he done enough? I think it depends on departures more than anything.


9.) 03 Apr 2023 13:48:22
Spenno,

He’s an upgrade on our squad players but he’s never going to be first choice for us, I would be surprised if we signed him permanently or if he starts any big games once Casemiro and Eriksen are back.


10.) 03 Apr 2023 14:44:20
Spenno, I like Sabitzer, but he's not set the league alight since he's signed. In fact he's hardly started when Casemiro has been available.

Also at his age you'd imagine if he was to leave Bayern's bench you'd expect it'd be to be first choice somewhere, not to be another bit part player. At 28 he's at his peak, he should be playing every week.


11.) 03 Apr 2023 23:57:22
I think Sabitzer is the epitome of the term ‘bang average’ He does a bit of this and a bit of that, but ultimately he’s nowhere near good enough. In fact, he’s not much better than McTominay, if at all.


12.) 04 Apr 2023 14:21:27
Sabizer is meh for me, I've not seen anything other than a lot of effort.


13.) 04 Apr 2023 17:25:42
Definitely bang average. i haven't seen anything from him to be honest.


14.) 05 Apr 2023 20:05:30
I like Sabitzer. Tidy, does the basics well. Would be a good squad player for me. Obviously, he might not want that at this stage of career, but if we could get him fairly cheap, it's a yes from me.


15.) 06 Apr 2023 22:06:51
He’s definitely better than Mctominay, and it’s perhaps a little unfair to judge him on his first few games in a new league having not played too many minutes. He has started to look better in the last few games and popping up with goals and assists, he was one of the only ones with any credit from the Newcastle game, so maybe if he continues to improve we will look to sign him.


 

 

 

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11 Jun 2024 22:44:28
News seems to be breaking now that after the end of season review the club have decided to stick with EtH and even starting to negotiate a contract extension.

If true I'm sure every single Manchester United fan will be happy to put the manager situation to bed.

I think everyone has said they will back what INEOS and the new structure decide is best. Well that looks like they have decided that EtH is the best man for the job.

Let's all get behind that decision and hope we can kick on next season.

Shappy

1.) 11 Jun 2024 22:52:41
Let's hope they can now start to focus on this 'best in class' structure and start focusing on player targets.


2.) 11 Jun 2024 23:03:48
Common sense prevails.
Let’s sort out the medical team mess, clear out the rotten eggs, bring in a couple of upgrades and see what we can do.


3.) 11 Jun 2024 23:05:58
Good I think he deserves another year.


4.) 11 Jun 2024 23:06:49
Now time to show ambition in the window, both buying and selling of players

Was clear to see we need squad depth

Stop going for old players and get young hungry players with potential and let the manager coach them.


5.) 12 Jun 2024 00:01:58
So Jimbo gives in to fan pressure. RIP 24/ 25.


6.) 12 Jun 2024 01:29:59
Maybe SJR wanted to break the cycle of constantly sacking managers BRD.

The article stating he was sacked regardless of the FA cup has been hugely discredited as BS.

Fan pressure had nothing to do with this.


7.) 12 Jun 2024 03:17:09
Great decision ineos. Took too long, but finally got there - and also negotiating an extension, which I am happy about. Now let's build out a squad that can play a coherent style, which may well take some time.


8.) 12 Jun 2024 05:17:47
Happy with the decision. let's hope the juve Greenwood news is true, get Sancho sold and few others and strengthen this team with some quality additions and don't need to be world beaters. This manager will do exceptionally well if he is supported by a good window as he has demonstrated he can win big games with players being out of form and miss mash of a squad. Imagine what he can do if he had a quality squad.


9.) 12 Jun 2024 05:57:30
It is what it is and glad it’s been cleared up. Back to work now for him and his staff as they must improve dramatically on last season in all areas.


10.) 12 Jun 2024 06:36:29
What fan pressure.


11.) 12 Jun 2024 07:22:17
he has to sign an extension now. Horrible for him to go into a final year.


12.) 12 Jun 2024 07:40:46
Oh Ken but he's known he's a dead man walking to the sack for weeks and weeks. ????.


13.) 12 Jun 2024 07:42:45
Fan pressure? What a dumb thing to say!


14.) 12 Jun 2024 07:43:52
I for one am very glad ETH is staying. He deserves to stay and be backed by the club. GGMU.


15.) 12 Jun 2024 09:32:55
He seems to be a better manager when we don’t play. Absolute joke but might be better than some options.


16.) 12 Jun 2024 16:24:38
G_Nev2, who would you have appointed in his stead?


17.) 12 Jun 2024 17:25:43
There is 2 ways to look at it.

Ineos want full control so the options were Ten Hag or Southgate, I would stick with Ten Hag.

Manager having some control were De Zerbi, Tuchel and Pochettino, for me it would be Tuchel.

Tuchel over all tbh but he doesn’t want to work with his hands ties left hung out to dry.


 

 

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1.) 12 May 2024 14:06:28
Bardghji is out with a long term knee injury, expected to return in Feb 2025.


2.) 12 May 2024 14:40:39
Surprised you didn’t suggest Luca Netz or Bradley Locko for LB tbf.


 

 

 

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20 Jun 2024 06:08:41
Kurtis, the agent worked on his transfer to Bologna, and you would assume made sure there was a clause in the contract that allows the player to move for a specific fee.

Now that several clubs feel that fee is a bargain and want to take advantage of that fee (that only exists because of the agent) why isn't the agent entitled to charge a premium in terms of their agents fee after their work will have saved the buying club money?

Also if you are to set an arbitrary fee for agents linked to a percentage of the transfer fee then surely it becomes counterintuitive for agents to negotiate a clause in player contracts that set a transfer fee at a specific amount. Ultimately meaning that the player moves for below market value and the agent gets a lower fee because of that.

The whole reason for agents to want these clauses in player contracts is to help facilitate moves which they can then make money from.

In terms of Zirkzee if he's worth 55-60m in the current market, and we can get him for a total cost of 40-45m but with 12m of that going to the agent rather than Bologna, why should we care where the money goes. Ultimately we've got a bargain and a very good player for below market value.

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16 Jun 2024 16:12:31
Ahmad, obviously it's about getting the balance right. You need to be recruiting players who suit a chosen style of play. They also need to have the the talent and the mentality to step up and be successful.

While there have been many successful signings brought into the EPL from all corners of the world. I strongly suspect if you looked at all the EPL transfers that those signed from other EPL club have a higher success rate than those brought in from other leagues.

It's no good signing someone who doesn't suit your team just because they come from the EPL. Likewise the same can be said about signing players from outside the EPL who don't suit your team just because they are cheaper.

When signing players from the EPL you will pay a premium, with a bigger premium if they are also homegrown, and bigger again if they are also English.

That's just supply and demand. The best English clubs want to have the best English players, those are few and far between and thus cost more.

Passports shouldn't matter when signing players, but they do. And to suggest otherwise is to choose to be blind to it.

Firstly, clubs need a certain amount of homegrown players to meet the squad requirements of the league. Secondly, in terms of branding an English club will want to use English players, just as a Spanish club with Spanish players or a German club with German players. It's important for their image and to sell merchandise.

I'm not saying we should only sign players from the EPL, but that typically the best side in any league tends to sign the best players from their own league.

If we want to get back to the top then we need to try and bring in more of the top players from the EPL. Not only does it go some way to minimising the chance of that player failing, it also weakens league rivals.

Look at Klopp's Dortmund, they started to threaten Bayern's dominance, then Bayern signed Lewandowski, Götze and Hummels from Dortmund. Strengthening their side and weakening a rival.

When City first started to become a top EPL side they made a habit of signing players from Arsenal, as did Chelsea. As these sides signed Arsenals best players they overtook Arsenal in the league and established themselves as a top side. Even we took RvP from Arsenal when the opportunity presented itself.

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16 Jun 2024 11:29:41
Trololo, it's funny how you know better than the player, the agent, his family and the club. Who all feel it's best for him to move on and have spent nearly a year exploring various moves away.

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16 Jun 2024 11:28:00
Ahmad, it's a game of opinions and we all have different points of view.

I quite like Branthwaite and think he's got a lot of potential. He's good at defending the channels and wins an insane percentage of his duels (especially for a 21 year old) . If I'm thinking of the ideal partner for Martinez they need to be a great cover defender, strong in the air, physical with a good but not nessicarily a phenomenal passing range.

I think Branthwaite ticks all of those boxes and if we bring in a second defender like Todibo (also a really good passing range) then a player like Branthwaite makes even more sense. Given his profile, age, potential and the fact that he's homegrown.

I also think his fee will be pretty fair for once. I'd expect something like 35-40m up front to meet Everton's PSR requirements, with a further 15-20m depending on performances and success criteria. Meaning he'll only cost more if he proves to be a good signing.

If we can get a future England international who can be a key player for us for potentially the next decade for less than 60m in the current market that is an absolute bargain.

All the Everton fans I know feel he is currently much better than Stones was at the same age. If he can have a similar trajectory in his career as Stones has since he left Everton then for maybe 60m we have a real bargain.

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16 Jun 2024 11:18:32
He looks a decent player on the little I've seen. My concern would be he's had one good season playing in a league where attackers haven't typically transferred well from into the EPL.

Far more Sancho's, Kagawa's, Werner's, Haller's and Pulisic's than there are Haaland's and Sane's.

I'd want him to have another season where he improves on what he's done this season, even then I'd want a deal where we pay a lower initial fee, with more dependent on performances. Just to protect us from another potential Bundesliga flop.

Sesko is another that I'd be a little wary about (but less so than Beier), I think he has the physical requirements and is young enough to adapt. Although I think he'd be better off joining a club that already had a first choice ST option where he could slowly bed in. Højlund suffered a little this season from not having someone to shoulder the burden with.

The one forward I would absolutely take from the Bundesliga this summer would be Lois Openda. But he has proven himself in the Netherlands with Vitesse on loan, with Lens in Ligue 1 (a league that players tend to adapt well to the EPL from) and with Leipzig. He'd be my first choice option if money was no object this summer. He's a proven player with a different profile to Højlund, he can drop deep and play as a false 9, play wide or play as a second striker off of a player like Højlund. The only real problem is he'd be very expensive, 60-70m I'd imagine and we just don't have that sort of money for a striker this summer.

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20 Jun 2024 06:15:23
Cavani is one of those players I wish we bought a few years earlier.

Imagine if we got a 27 year old Cavani in 2015 rather than a 33 year old Cavani in 2020.

That was the summer we bought Martial, when we could probably should have bought Cavani.

We probably wouldn't have then subsequently bought Lukaku in 2017, saving us a fortune.

Hindsight hey.

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17 Jun 2024 21:17:40
Salford, due to the amortisation of Onana's 33m transfer fee Everton will need to sell Onana for 60m+ up front to ensure they have the 40m clear in their accounts to avoid being in breach of PSR by the 30th of June.

While they won't want to lose Branthwaite, he is probably the one they will have to cut loose to avoid another points deduction.

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17 Jun 2024 21:19:46
Marc Guehi would be a good signing, and I can see him being the England player who gets a big move this summer on the back of a good tournament.

Supposedly Palace are open to selling him due to his contract situation.

However, ever good display with England will further push his price up.

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17 Jun 2024 21:14:06
Nev, it's also a banter page, I've taken more than my fair share of pot shots, snipes and ridicule.

Either stand up and be counted, or fold and walk away.

Many of the people who complain about comments made against them on here are the same ones who complain about the "weak mentality" of our players, apparently without realising the irony.

Ultimately I think the world has changed, when these pages started the likes of Romano et. al were still suckling at their mother's teet. Social media is where all the rumours go now, with people trying to make a living out of being supposedly ITK.

Ultimately they seem as credible as the daily rags before them.

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16 Jun 2024 13:12:21
Dodgy, I agree we shouldn't be paying silly money. Lots of posturing going on right now. I'd expect common sense to prevail with United paying 35-40m upfront with a further 15-20m depending on performances or certain criteria.

That way Everton save face with a bigger fee, yet United only end up paying the full 55-60m if he is a success and United are successful. In which case I don't think anyone would complain.

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