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12 Aug 2024 21:24:10
Sander Berge left out of Burnley's squad for their first game of the season this evening.

Seems to suggest that there is something in the rumours of him leaving. Will it be to ourselves, or to someone else?

Shappy

1.) 12 Aug 2024 22:06:16
He’s also missed most of pre season with the same injury that kept him out of tonight. Nice try Shappy!


2.) 13 Aug 2024 07:53:27
Romanoesque!


3.) 13 Aug 2024 08:58:48
Be a shame to not keep the trend of signing injury prone players going!


4.) 13 Aug 2024 11:45:59
Wazza, where did you hear he is injured, I've scoured the internet and not found any mention of him being injured. The Burnley manager didn't mention him as being out injured.


5.) 13 Aug 2024 12:47:50
He has not played any pre season due to injury so was not considered last night and it was reported at the match last night that he was left out due to that reasoning.


6.) 13 Aug 2024 12:50:09
Shappy, Parker said so, and confirmed it's what has kept him out of some pre-season fixtures.

You can't have Googled too long as it's the first thing that comes up when searching Sander Berge injury.

"He picked up an injury in Spain. He had a bit of discomfort in his quad. It's not a big injury, it's quite a small injury to be honest with you. "

Nice clickbait though!


7.) 13 Aug 2024 13:33:59
Wazza to be fair I searched last night and that article you've quoted was published at midday today, 15 minutes AFTER I posted saying I hadn't seen anything to say he was injured.

From what I read he was expected to be in the squad and wasn't, which seemed suspicious. As it was he is injured, so that's that then.


 

 

12 Jul 2024 18:16:32
Sancho back at the club and training with the first team.

Apparently talks between Sancho and EtH have taken place and they've agreed to draw a line under the situation.

He will now be available to take part in pre-season games.

Is this a case that Sancho has realised his options weren't as good as he thought?

Or is this the player and the club doing what is needed to push up the offers to facilitate his move away.

I guess we'll see what happens over the next couple of months.

Shappy

1.) 12 Jul 2024 19:28:08
If true, my opinion of ETH has gone up a little. Sancho still has a long way to go.


2.) 12 Jul 2024 19:55:26
Or sancho has realised this board ain’t getting rid of another manager for players and he’s having to knuckle down

Still hope he’s gone tho.


3.) 12 Jul 2024 20:02:32
2 adults in a room, having a chat.

It's surely a bit of both, no offers and ETH drawing a line, giving a clean slate to align with the current mood of the club. Everything is new.

I hope he can put his head down and make the best of his second chance at the club.


4.) 12 Jul 2024 20:08:07
Hopefully just the club strengthening their position, and Sancho isn’t smart enough to be any the wiser.


5.) 12 Jul 2024 21:17:13
Well this is interesting. People can and do have the right to change their minds. He’s better than Antony who Ed said was available for transfer, and with Greenwood on the way out and likely Pellestri too, makes sense for him and Amad to compete.

Plus he can play 10. Why not let bygones be bygones. If he wants to come back and show the form he shows in Dortimund then awesome for both parties.


6.) 12 Jul 2024 21:41:06
I’m in the get rid camp. Glad they’ve come to an amicable cease fire, but a Leopard doesn’t change its spots and he’s still the petulant kid that fell out with the boss in the first place.


7.) 12 Jul 2024 23:45:46
I would suspect that the big boys “suggested” that ETH needed to sort it out between them both as well as Sancho realising he was damaging his chances.

I am also in the out basket.


8.) 13 Jul 2024 06:24:10
I don't really care about the detail of what has happened and him being back and no issues with it. The realty is he has been poor for us even before the spat under previous managers barring the odd game and not sure he can cut it at united and hence selling him would be ideal.


9.) 13 Jul 2024 06:54:52
Agreed Ahmad.

Beyond what happened, he’s not very good and needs to be moved on.

The laziness and ego are part of his personality, people don’t change.


10.) 13 Jul 2024 07:10:46
As Ahmad said he has been at the club three years now, hasn't set the world alight has he?

Maybe the wages are putting people off, clearly he has the ability and mentality as we saw at Dortmund, unfortunately the consistency might never be there and he is destined to sit the last few years of his contract out at United.

I guess this doesn't help our PSR and getting some of the big wage earners out.

{Ed001's Note - when was this fabled Sancho ability shown at Dortmund? If people had actually watched him play, instead of reading his PR bull, they would have known he was terrible there except when coming on very late as a sub. Even then, it was more down to rank amateur defending that he got decent stats. He is so far up his own backside that he can lick his own tonsils and will not achieve anything until he grows up.}


11.) 13 Jul 2024 09:20:52
Absolutely spot on Ed001. People saw highlights of that game against PSG and couldn’t see past it. He was no good for Dortmund, couldn’t hold down a starting place, and his G&A numbers were as poor there as they’ve been for us. That’s without mentioning his attitude and mentality.

The last headline I read started “England International Jadon Sancho…”. PR nonsense.


12.) 13 Jul 2024 09:44:51
I will still be surprised to see Sanchi still with the club once the window shuts.
However this allows for him to show what he can do in pre season, see whether he can reintegrate with the new coaching structure.
Would not be surprised if he still moves late in the window.


13.) 13 Jul 2024 10:11:47
We dropped a bomb buying him, and now we are paying for it, no one will pay the money we want or the wages either so to get rid we are still going to end up subsidising his wages.

Not surprised they made up, there wasn't really a choice, it doesn't look good on Sancho but neither does it on United. I rather suspect that's all parties are working together to find a solution that will involve him playing elsewhere next year.


14.) 13 Jul 2024 10:19:39
Absolutely bang on the money Ed001. Bang on it. Get rid asap.


15.) 13 Jul 2024 21:34:15
Get rid. Bad attitude and not good enough anyway. Not worth the hassle.


16.) 14 Jul 2024 07:25:17
Ed 1 is totally correct here. It’s total PR spin, because even though I know he’s not a great player, and all my Cory fan mates say the same, my mind still thinks he should get a (yet another) chance. It’s brainwashing. He’s done nothing positive of note since he joined the club, and Italian and German leagues are far more suitable for him than the rigours of the Premier League.

Being him back, get him training and fit, sell him for maximum value. Smart move by the club.

If he does stay, he now has to win back over the fans too who frankly want rid.


 

 

03 Dec 2023 12:53:13
Heard a rumour today that United and Barcelona are exploring the possibility of swapping Sancho and Raphinha initially on loan, but with a possible view to it becoming a permanent deal if it works out.

If there is any truth to this then I think its a possible deal that could work out for all parties.

United and Sancho need to part ways, while Sancho probably doesn't want to take a step down/ backwards.

United really need someone who can lock down the RW spot, and Raphinha was one of the best RW players while at Leeds.

Unfortunately for him it seems Xavi doesn't quite rate him, despite him playing well when called upon.

Stylistically I tend to think that Sancho does fit better in a side like Barcelona and Raphinha in a side like United.

I'd be pretty happy if the club managed to pull something like this off, what is everyone else's view?

Shappy

1.) 03 Dec 2023 15:28:02
I mean I’d be delighted if we can pull that off. But I can’t see it.


2.) 03 Dec 2023 21:44:52
Sounds like a computer game transfer to me.


3.) 03 Dec 2023 21:52:43
Would rip your arm off for that deal but it’s all pie in the sky.


4.) 05 Dec 2023 01:58:03
We could do with new negotiators, or they might come back from Spain with a bunch of Rapini.


5.) 05 Dec 2023 09:07:03
Shappy

Wishful thinking. Why would Barcelona do that. He will end up somewhere in Italy as that's generally the league players end up when they don't work out in PL. He is not good enough for any of the top 3/ 4 teams in Spain and unaffordable for any in the next tier.

Its one of those players who will be hard to shift unless we take a bath on the transfer.


6.) 05 Dec 2023 21:09:51
Rumours today it’s Rashford ??‍♂️.


7.) 09 Dec 2023 20:22:57
I’d be happy if Rashford went tbh along with Sancho. The pair of ‘em aren’t bad players, as long as they get their own way. We aren’t currently in a place where we can carry talented babies though, so I’d get radical and get rid of the pair.


 

 

08 Jul 2023 14:41:19
DDG is gone, club just wished him well and said goodbye on Twatter.

Shappy

1.) 08 Jul 2023 14:49:36
Great servant, but right time for MU and himself to move on, some of the replies made my blood boil though, clearly not fans but even still. he's got my respect and wish him well in his next venture.


2.) 08 Jul 2023 15:22:56
He's big, he's brave he's Spanish Dave
He makes great saves, he never shaves,
Flying through the air
Come and have a shot if you dare!

He indeed has been a great servant as well as a true professional in his behaviors. He will inevitably divide some on opinions, but no one can doubt some of the class saves over the years (Mata's freekick)

Ed002, what teams would be interested? Roma? Saudi clubs?


3.) 08 Jul 2023 15:43:50
Our best player over the last 12 years, gutted he is going but it is the right time for him and the club.


4.) 08 Jul 2023 15:22:56
He's big, he's brave he's Spanish Dave
He makes great saves, he never shaves,
Flying through the air
Come and have a shot if you dare!

He indeed has been a great servant as well as a true professional in his behaviors. He will inevitably divide some on opinions, but no one can doubt some of the class saves over the years (Mata's freekick)

Ed002, what teams would be interested? Roma? Saudi clubs?

{Ed002's Note - David De Gea (G) If Mr Mourinho stays at Roma, then perhaps interest. Perhaps someone in Spain or the Middle East. Manchester United have a list of potential replacements but want a new contract.}


5.) 09 Jul 2023 07:07:25
Good time for both parties to move on. Clearly looked very uncomfortable under ETH’s system. That being said, a brilliant keeper for us over the years. Wish him all the best. Italy seems an obvious move in the absence of decent Spanish interest - or of course Saudi!


 

 

28 May 2023 09:30:51
Heard a rumour this morning that United might look at Benjamin Pavard from Bayern Munich, as well as closely monitoring the situation with Ryan Gravenberch.

Bayern yesterday sacked their CEO Oliver Kahn and their Sporting Director Hasan Salihamidzic, possibly opening the door for some players to leave who might have been intending to stay under the previous regime.

Pavard would be an interesting option, capable of playing both CB and RB he'd be a very good option.

Gravenberch too has great potential but just can't get the game time he needs with players like Kimmich and Goretzka ahead of him.

Shappy

1.) 28 May 2023 09:50:18
Think Ed002 said that Pavard is reluctant to consider us because he wants to play primarily as a cb.


2.) 28 May 2023 11:30:14
A RB who can also chip in at CB is a good shout, as is Frimpong.
I think Bayern have a number of players who should be of interest. I assume the Mount thing has legs and if so that would probably kill off any interest in Gravenberch and De Jong, and what of Sabitzer.


3.) 28 May 2023 12:13:02
Interesting thread this and might have legs as we know Erik likes players who can play multiple positions to limit the impact of injuries in the squad.


4.) 28 May 2023 13:25:20
Back in February, it was reported that his expected fee this summer could be £26.8m because his contract is up next year - that would amount to a bargain.

That said, it's likely that Bayern would still want more than that for a versatile defender approaching his prime.

The problem is that he wants to play CB and there can be no assurances offered by United that he'll be first-choice ahead of Varane.
He can play RB, but he might be reluctant about coming to a club where that could be his only consistent option.
That does also render Barcelona as a questionable option given that the superior Kounde is already playing RB to accommodate other players.

Personally, I'd expect him to move to a Serie A club.


5.) 28 May 2023 22:50:42
We really need to be looking at Gravenberch. I’m not sure if he’s even available but if he is and a a low price it’s a no brainier. Le fee is another player I hope we take a look at.


6.) 30 May 2023 10:44:36
varane missed 14 league games, went off 6 times, efl only played 90 mins in the final missed 4 games and subbed off once. Class act but never been consistantly fit for games throughout his career. Any cb coming in would get a minimum of 25 games a season if fit/ available.


 

 

 

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Manchester United Fans should Back The Manager

09 Feb 2025 07:39:07
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1.) 09 Feb 2025 12:36:19
Shappy - With all due respect you preached to everyone that we should back EtH! It seems to me you back the manager until you don’t. Supporters will draw their own conclusions.

In my opinion the real problem still exists with the executives running the Club, the Glazers are still the majority owners, the debt remains a suffocating noose around the Clubs throat and the new minority owners have already made some truly horrendous decisions in their first 12 months. Whilst baffling decisions are still made at executive level and the Club finances remain precarious after years of mismanagement, the Club will remain rooted in mediocrity.

Ineos’s master plan appears nothing more than austerity but when has the ever been an effective strategy in football?

Amorim needs results and I fear he is already making similar mistakes of previous managers. Favourites, playing people out of position, negative, boring, insipid football. We haven’t had the excuses yet, but they will come!

Patience does not exists in football, Lopetegui lasted 20 games at West Ham.

My frustrations lie beyond the manager but I’m not naive enough to understand that he needs to start winning games or the inevitable whispers of dissent will only grow louder.

Buying a LWB and playing him on the right whilst retaining the ineffective Dalot won’t help. Let’s hope he doesn’t make the same mistakes as his predecessors.


2.) 09 Feb 2025 13:14:19
I’d be surprised if he is removed before getting a chance to improve the squad.
BUT, not having made any signings aside from Dorgu gives the perfect excuse to sack him if they choose to, as opposed to the situation with EtH in backing him massively then removing him a few weeks later.


3.) 09 Feb 2025 13:38:29
For clarity, I don’t for one second think Amorim should be sacked. My frustration lies with decision makers that have appointed a manager who clearly doesn’t have the tools to do his job and he will not succeed unless the Club are prepared for a major rebuild. If you’re looking for evidence about what might happen in the future, Ineos have not been patient with managers at Nice.

Will be he backed in the summer? Who knows? Where will the money come from? If we’re selling the likes of Garnacho and Mainoo, are we not simply robbing Peter to pay Paul? And if Amorim fails have we not just sold two of our most exciting academy graduates in years when actually we should be building the Club around such players? Food for thought and I’m sure there will be differing opinions on this subject.

In my opinion Amorim needs players in early so he can work with them during pre season but historically, Utd are frustratingly pedestrian in the transfer market. I’m sure we can all envisage a situation where several players arrive late in the window and we’re not prepared for the start of the season again.

We’re always looking for a new manager to fix things but it’s higher up where the real problem exists. We still don’t even have a DoF by the way!


4.) 09 Feb 2025 23:35:57
DLIB, that's a funny thing to say. Of course I support the manager until the writings on the wall.

I'm a supporter, that is my role with the club. Anyone who doesn't support the manager, the players and the team is no true supporter.


5.) 10 Feb 2025 16:09:17
Dlib there is no skirted of money. S
Do you ever read the clubs accounts?


6.) 10 Feb 2025 21:30:32
Don’t think we are that flush Tumble, the revolving loan funds most transfers, there was £120m available in there last year, however this facility comes to an end in 2027 and must be paid off in full, so I don’t we can go on a spending spree any time soon.


7.) 11 Feb 2025 05:40:13
The funds are there grim for 3 or 4 signings and there will be over 150m available in the summer.
Now what that gets you nowadays is questionable
There will be a few decent offloads in the summer and the wages will be brought back into line assuming we can get shut of rashford casimero
And hopeless onana.
A lot of tripe brought into the club and bad buys under eth.
Frankly we need to get a lot more right than wrong as we certainly can't afford anymore dopes like Anthony zirkzee malacia onana and over the hill players like ericksen and casimero.
Rasmus madly over priced and rated.


8.) 11 Feb 2025 08:18:41
It looks like they will try to do business a little more sensibly that the previous regime.

More players like Dorgu who are fairly priced with potential to develop rather than the more prominent names who come at a premium. It also looks like they will actually walk away from deals if they cannot get them for the price they value the player at. No more Antony or Højlund situations where they value the player at 35-40m, but end up paying double that just to sign them.

It also looks like they are heavily recruiting young players who will soon be ready to step into the first team. Players like Obi-Martin, Kone, Heaven and Diego Leon. These look like signings made to be squad players who could develop into more over the next 18 months to 2 years. It almost looks like they are preparing the ground for a massive clear out.

It looks like a massive squad reset is about to happen. I'm expecting us to sign 3-4 players in the summer who'll go straight into the first team, along with another 2 or 3 players like those mentioned above who will become squad players over the next 18 months or so. While I expect to see another 8-12 players leave permanently this summer.


9.) 11 Feb 2025 10:01:53
It's shaping up for a huge summer, although it feels like we've had 'Manchester United's most important ever transfer window' pretty much twice a year since Erik came in :D
There are a lot of buzz words around this kind of thing, 'mass clearout' being one when in truth it's very rarely the case that more than 3-4 come and go. BUT. it certainly does feel like this could be the year that an awful lot happens. A few players are coming to a natural end at this level whether through contracts expiring or age, a new profile of more adaptable younger players is clearly what's being looked at and the recent youth signings feel like they're a level higher than they have been, not far off pushing for the first squad. Exciting times, despite the results of course!


10.) 11 Feb 2025 15:15:54
New GK would be great Start apart from Onana being a clown, he slows the game to a snails pace, is a drama queen and his distribution when he eventually does kick it long is woeful. before the stats man starts most of his passes that complete are 5 yards back and forth with the CBs. I am not really sure he excels at anything!
A terrible purchase when Raya was available at the time too along with some others, but we got a ETH special signing……. much as DeGea was on the decline I would much rather him in goal than this clown….


11.) 11 Feb 2025 15:37:52
Gotta agree on Onana, I don't think we'd have gone anywhere near him if not for EtH. But think we're probably lumbered with him for a while yet, I doubt he's considered a priority sale.


12.) 11 Feb 2025 17:16:45
I am not so sure Spenno, I am not overly convinced that RA rates him very highly at all, so we can live in hope that he gets shot of him….


 

 

08 Feb 2025 17:16:08
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Shappy

1.) 09 Feb 2025 21:06:27
Manager must start winning games to warrant the backing of the fans.


2.) 09 Feb 2025 23:37:20
2toms, fans should support the club, the players and the manager. That is literally their job. It's in the job title "supporter".


 

 

Football Pundits Spout Rubbish?

22 Jan 2025 07:39:09
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Shappy

1.) 22 Jan 2025 09:10:41
Good article Shappy but let's be honest, Utd are playing a 3-4-2-0, as we do not have a striker, we are effectively playing with 10 men. That is why we continually get over-run.

Bruno is also an issue, I love his work ethic and he has buckets of talent but he is continually out of position, giving the opposition multiple opportunities to exploit the neglected space.

I had hoped Mount would have provided serious competition for Bruno but alas he can't stay fit, so another £50M getting burned!

I know we need better for the LWB but I think if you can fix the issues up top. we will see a large improvement in our results.


2.) 22 Jan 2025 09:52:47
Agree a striker as well as offering the obvious will make a huge difference in the effectiveness of this formation.
Who's the ultimate obtainable, affordable January target? Cunha (Arsenal-bound)? Mbuemo (too expensive)? Delap (not currently a significant upgrade)?


3.) 22 Jan 2025 17:39:15
Any experienced striker would be an improvement to what we have, even Weghorst is an improvement on rubbish we have, least he cost nothing and not 70m like Rasmus, least he wins aerial battles and least he holds ball up and brings others into play, ok not great scorer but atm we have zero of all the above….


 

 

21 Jan 2025 10:23:18
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Shappy has written an article entitled, Football Pundits spout rubbish

Shappy

1.) 21 Jan 2025 19:59:47
Would you say they shout a much rubbish as you??.


2.) 21 Jan 2025 22:25:44
Speaking of pundits was anyone listening when 10 men Lille equalised. Hilarious.


3.) 22 Jan 2025 19:47:57
Ken, we all talk rubbish at times. Yet none of us are paid the thousands that they are to spout absolute tripe that doesn't stand up to even the slightest scrutiny.


 

 

Manchester United midfield and inside forward positions

19 Jan 2025 07:39:08
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16 Feb 2025 10:21:33
Amad being out is a massive blow, he has been our best player this season.

Others will need to step up now.

With Dorgu now signed there would have been less need to play Amad at wingback. While Bruno, Garnacho, Zirkzee and Eriksen can all play in those roles either side of the striker. As could Mount if he can ever get fit. So we at least have options to cover for him, we just need a couple of them to step up.

The bigger issue this weekend is Ugarte, Mainoo and Collyer all being out.

Ugarte is the biggest miss of those three, he has become an ever present, and has quietly been excellent for us. While both Mainoo and Collyer have added energy to the middle which is lacking when Casemiro or Eriksen have to play in midfield.

Effectively we will be going into the Spurs game with absolutely no midfield. That could make it a crazy end to end game. With their very transitional style, and our inability to hold the ball in the middle (compounded by Martinez's injury in defence robbing us of our best ball playing CB), we might struggle to play out from the back into midfield and beyond, forcing us to have to play a more direct game. It would also be poetic if Obi-Martin got his chances against Spurs having spent pretty much his entire youth career at Arsenal. Him coming on and scoring the winner against Spurs would be blockbuster, and would definitely paper over a few of the cracks for now.

It's a real chance for some of the youngsters to step up. Ideally you want to be able to give these lads a few 10 minute cameos, then maybe half an hour, build up their exposure to first team football. Sending them on when the game is already won and under control, to reduce the pressure on them to perform. Give them chances when the other 10 players are able to carry them to an extent. Let them build up to starting games, rather than being thrown in at the deep end.

Yet diamonds are formed under pressure, some times these kids can really step up when thrown in. To be honest, we probably need one or two of them to do that. We need it both for the team on the pitch, and for the feel good factor it brings to the fans when we see a new young player step up and start performing in the first team.

How many managers have we seen hold on for a little bit longer due to the good faith brought about due to a young player they have given a chance to who is doing well.

Would Moyes have lasted as long as he did without Januzaj doing well?

Would LvG have lasted as long without Rashford?

Mourinho with McTominay.

Ole with Greenwood.

EtH with Mainoo and Garnacho.

The feel good factor when a young player steps up can help a manager during a difficult time. At the very least it buys them a little more time. Now I'm not saying Amorim is in danger of losing his job. But fans aren't happy with the team performance right now. It seems impossible that there is any sort of way the team could turn this season around to a point where it isn't considered a total bust. Even if they go undefeated for the rest of the season in the league and we finish 6th it'll still be considered a poor season. What the fans need is something to feel positive about, a new potential star is what we need. We had that in Amad this season, but with him now likely out until next season we need someone else to be able to get behind, someone else to excite us.

It does look like one or two might get a chance today. Maybe Moorhouse or Kone in midfield, or Obi-Martin coming on later in the game.

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11 Feb 2025 21:59:04
We've tried every system under the sun with these players.

It's about time to admit some of them are very lucky to even have a career as a footballer.

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03 Feb 2025 20:59:31
Got to feel for the guy. He's my favourite player in the current squad. I do wonder whether he has the physical ability to cope with the demands of the EPL while also playing his full throttle, aggressive style of play.

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31 Jan 2025 11:47:30
Who knows what goes on behind closed doors.

What is clear is that Amorim has set a minimum standard that players need to reach to be considered for the first team. For whatever reason Rashford isn't meeting that standard.

Amorim has praised Rashford's quality and has said that if he meets the standards then he will be considered for selection again.

The balls in his court. Either he bucks up or he ships out. Either way it'll be the right decision for our club.

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31 Jan 2025 11:43:54
I wouldn't be against signing Jonathan David, I think he's a good player who could potentially fit into a couple of positions in Amorim's system.

However, I'd only want him signed if he was a genuine target based on his skill set and with a specific role in the team in mind. I don't want us to sign square pegs for round holes just because they are cheap or available.

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15 Feb 2025 12:03:02
Ed001, the company that bought the shares and invested money into the club was Trawlers Ltd, a company wholly owned by Jim Ratcliffe.

It was not INEOS's money.

Shappy

{Ed001's Note - again read it - company. Not his money, the company's money. It is not difficult to understand, he doesn't use personal money, he uses finance to pay for things. Just like the Glazers, but borrowed from outside, rather than against the club. Why do you argue when you don't actually know?}


 

 

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14 Feb 2025 22:22:29
The new regime were always going to make mistakes. No one gets everything 100% right.

While I agree that the cut backs for employees seem small and even petty when compared to the costs of players wages and compensation payments etc. That doesn't mean that it is the wrong decision to make.

Ultimately there are bigger issues, but they cannot allow be fixed or certainly not any time soon.

Yes we all want to see the debt gone. But why should it be Jim Radcliffe who foots the bill. With the money he's paid the buy the club (out of his own pocket) and the 300m he has put directly into the clubs accounts to help fund things, the reality is that he has already invested more into our club than any other single individual in history.

Why should he be expected to plough another 800m of his own money into a black hole to get absolutely nothing for it. Just to clear the debt someone else foisted on our club?

If you're all so desperate to clear the debt I'll set up a GoFundMe page and we can get every single United fan to put £100 into it to clear the debt.

Are you prepared to use your hard earned money to clear the Glazer's debt?

I suppose the answer will be "why should you? " Which unless you're a hypocrite should be the same thinking towards Jim Radcliffe paying it.

The club is in an almighty mess, the only way out of this is to make unpopular decisions. It is those tough decisions that the previous regime shied away from which ultimately has compounded issues and set us on a downward spiral.

The club will have to make unpopular decisions to get us back on course now, either that or we have to accept life in the mire and mid-table mediocrity.

Part of the reason I wanted EtH to stay this season is that the manager was going to have to make some very unpopular decisions. They were going to have to stand up against the players and in doing so were bound to make enemies. Lots of players need booting out, those that stay will have to be worked harder than they've worked before. It's likely that the manager who has to be the guy to do the majority of this work will end up the fall guy and it'll be his successor who'll truly benefit from the work he does. That to me made more sense to keep EtH to be that guy. Unfortunately obviously his position became untenable, yet the reality is that the new man has come in and he hasn't managed to improve things. I really don't think it matters who is managing us right now, this is the level we will get out of these players when they are being forced to do the things they need to do to eventually become successful.

Jim Ratcliffe and the new regime will make mistakes along the way. Some might be relatively small, others might be huge.

As fan we will have to probably accept another 18 months to 2 years of stories like the ones that have been published recently, of hardship and difficult viewing, of inconsistent football. A couple more years outside of the UCL, and 10th to 6th placed finishes. But it needs to happen.

But until we grow a pair and suck it up and take our medicine, that two years or so of real hardship as a fan then things will never be able to really get better. Even then there are no guarantees.

Shappy

{Ed001's Note - none of the money has come out of Rat's pocket at all. Utter nonsense. He has spent zero pounds of his own money, the exact amount he paid in taxes as well, zero.}


 

 

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11 Feb 2025 22:06:39
Scholesy's intelligence was always in his feet.

Which was fine when he was a footballer as he could let his feet do the talking.

As a pundit he's the new version of Souness unfortunately. Grumpy git, not much personality, and seems to keep getting opportunities in punditry due to the hyperbolic comments he makes rather than any astute ones.

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11 Feb 2025 08:18:41
It looks like they will try to do business a little more sensibly that the previous regime.

More players like Dorgu who are fairly priced with potential to develop rather than the more prominent names who come at a premium. It also looks like they will actually walk away from deals if they cannot get them for the price they value the player at. No more Antony or Højlund situations where they value the player at 35-40m, but end up paying double that just to sign them.

It also looks like they are heavily recruiting young players who will soon be ready to step into the first team. Players like Obi-Martin, Kone, Heaven and Diego Leon. These look like signings made to be squad players who could develop into more over the next 18 months to 2 years. It almost looks like they are preparing the ground for a massive clear out.

It looks like a massive squad reset is about to happen. I'm expecting us to sign 3-4 players in the summer who'll go straight into the first team, along with another 2 or 3 players like those mentioned above who will become squad players over the next 18 months or so. While I expect to see another 8-12 players leave permanently this summer.

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11 Feb 2025 07:48:10
It's probably a case of something being made out of nothing.

Players pick up injuries all the time, while sometimes players are a little too soft and rule themselves out when they could have played.

Difficult to know which it is here. The manager was clearly frustrated, maybe that's at Gore specifically, or could be feeling under pressure, annoyed with the general teams performance, or maybe he's having a tough time outside of his job and this was something that tipped him over the edge.

Gore did suffer a pretty bad injury at the start of last season which kept him out for a long time. So I wouldn't be surprised if he's being a little over cautious when he has a niggle now.

To be honest with how things have gone for him over the past 18 months, along with Collyer stepping into the first team squad and with the signing of Sekou Kone who should be in and around the first team squad within a year or so, I don't see Gore having much opportunity to steak a claim and make it with us now.

The manager has had a look at him, then allowed him to head out on loan. Under 23's was no longer challenging enough for him, but clearly Amorim didn't see him getting many chances in the first team. That's despite the midfield not looking completely settled. Ugarte is the only one who is regularly performing well in the midfield right now. Eriksen just hasn't got the legs, while Casemiro and Mainoo have been inconsistent. That has opened the door to Collyer who has been given a little more game time. With Bruno also being tried deeper.

Still the manager felt he could do without Gore. I expect we'll see him leave the club in the summer, Ideally this loan should have been a chance for him to step up and do well. Hopefully drumming up some more interest in him.

He still has potential to be a very good player, but like James Garner before him it doesn't look like he will be quite good enough for the level we want to be at. I think he should look to move to a good championship club in the summer where he can play regularly.

Shappy