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12 Aug 2024 21:24:10
Sander Berge left out of Burnley's squad for their first game of the season this evening.
Seems to suggest that there is something in the rumours of him leaving. Will it be to ourselves, or to someone else?
1.) 12 Aug 2024 22:06:16
He’s also missed most of pre season with the same injury that kept him out of tonight. Nice try Shappy!
2.) 13 Aug 2024 07:53:27
Romanoesque!
3.) 13 Aug 2024 08:58:48
Be a shame to not keep the trend of signing injury prone players going!
4.) 13 Aug 2024 11:45:59
Wazza, where did you hear he is injured, I've scoured the internet and not found any mention of him being injured. The Burnley manager didn't mention him as being out injured.
5.) 13 Aug 2024 12:47:50
He has not played any pre season due to injury so was not considered last night and it was reported at the match last night that he was left out due to that reasoning.
6.) 13 Aug 2024 12:50:09
Shappy, Parker said so, and confirmed it's what has kept him out of some pre-season fixtures.
You can't have Googled too long as it's the first thing that comes up when searching Sander Berge injury.
"He picked up an injury in Spain. He had a bit of discomfort in his quad. It's not a big injury, it's quite a small injury to be honest with you. "
Nice clickbait though!
7.) 13 Aug 2024 13:33:59
Wazza to be fair I searched last night and that article you've quoted was published at midday today, 15 minutes AFTER I posted saying I hadn't seen anything to say he was injured.
From what I read he was expected to be in the squad and wasn't, which seemed suspicious. As it was he is injured, so that's that then.
12 Jul 2024 18:16:32
Sancho back at the club and training with the first team.
Apparently talks between Sancho and EtH have taken place and they've agreed to draw a line under the situation.
He will now be available to take part in pre-season games.
Is this a case that Sancho has realised his options weren't as good as he thought?
Or is this the player and the club doing what is needed to push up the offers to facilitate his move away.
I guess we'll see what happens over the next couple of months.
1.) 12 Jul 2024 19:28:08
If true, my opinion of ETH has gone up a little. Sancho still has a long way to go.
2.) 12 Jul 2024 19:55:26
Or sancho has realised this board ain’t getting rid of another manager for players and he’s having to knuckle down
Still hope he’s gone tho.
3.) 12 Jul 2024 20:02:32
2 adults in a room, having a chat.
It's surely a bit of both, no offers and ETH drawing a line, giving a clean slate to align with the current mood of the club. Everything is new.
I hope he can put his head down and make the best of his second chance at the club.
4.) 12 Jul 2024 20:08:07
Hopefully just the club strengthening their position, and Sancho isn’t smart enough to be any the wiser.
5.) 12 Jul 2024 21:17:13
Well this is interesting. People can and do have the right to change their minds. He’s better than Antony who Ed said was available for transfer, and with Greenwood on the way out and likely Pellestri too, makes sense for him and Amad to compete.
Plus he can play 10. Why not let bygones be bygones. If he wants to come back and show the form he shows in Dortimund then awesome for both parties.
6.) 12 Jul 2024 21:41:06
I’m in the get rid camp. Glad they’ve come to an amicable cease fire, but a Leopard doesn’t change its spots and he’s still the petulant kid that fell out with the boss in the first place.
7.) 12 Jul 2024 23:45:46
I would suspect that the big boys “suggested” that ETH needed to sort it out between them both as well as Sancho realising he was damaging his chances.
I am also in the out basket.
8.) 13 Jul 2024 06:24:10
I don't really care about the detail of what has happened and him being back and no issues with it. The realty is he has been poor for us even before the spat under previous managers barring the odd game and not sure he can cut it at united and hence selling him would be ideal.
9.) 13 Jul 2024 06:54:52
Agreed Ahmad.
Beyond what happened, he’s not very good and needs to be moved on.
The laziness and ego are part of his personality, people don’t change.
10.) 13 Jul 2024 07:10:46
As Ahmad said he has been at the club three years now, hasn't set the world alight has he?
Maybe the wages are putting people off, clearly he has the ability and mentality as we saw at Dortmund, unfortunately the consistency might never be there and he is destined to sit the last few years of his contract out at United.
I guess this doesn't help our PSR and getting some of the big wage earners out.
{Ed001's Note - when was this fabled Sancho ability shown at Dortmund? If people had actually watched him play, instead of reading his PR bull, they would have known he was terrible there except when coming on very late as a sub. Even then, it was more down to rank amateur defending that he got decent stats. He is so far up his own backside that he can lick his own tonsils and will not achieve anything until he grows up.}
11.) 13 Jul 2024 09:20:52
Absolutely spot on Ed001. People saw highlights of that game against PSG and couldn’t see past it. He was no good for Dortmund, couldn’t hold down a starting place, and his G&A numbers were as poor there as they’ve been for us. That’s without mentioning his attitude and mentality.
The last headline I read started “England International Jadon Sancho…”. PR nonsense.
12.) 13 Jul 2024 09:44:51
I will still be surprised to see Sanchi still with the club once the window shuts.
However this allows for him to show what he can do in pre season, see whether he can reintegrate with the new coaching structure.
Would not be surprised if he still moves late in the window.
13.) 13 Jul 2024 10:11:47
We dropped a bomb buying him, and now we are paying for it, no one will pay the money we want or the wages either so to get rid we are still going to end up subsidising his wages.
Not surprised they made up, there wasn't really a choice, it doesn't look good on Sancho but neither does it on United. I rather suspect that's all parties are working together to find a solution that will involve him playing elsewhere next year.
14.) 13 Jul 2024 10:19:39
Absolutely bang on the money Ed001. Bang on it. Get rid asap.
15.) 13 Jul 2024 21:34:15
Get rid. Bad attitude and not good enough anyway. Not worth the hassle.
16.) 14 Jul 2024 07:25:17
Ed 1 is totally correct here. It’s total PR spin, because even though I know he’s not a great player, and all my Cory fan mates say the same, my mind still thinks he should get a (yet another) chance. It’s brainwashing. He’s done nothing positive of note since he joined the club, and Italian and German leagues are far more suitable for him than the rigours of the Premier League.
Being him back, get him training and fit, sell him for maximum value. Smart move by the club.
If he does stay, he now has to win back over the fans too who frankly want rid.
03 Dec 2023 12:53:13
Heard a rumour today that United and Barcelona are exploring the possibility of swapping Sancho and Raphinha initially on loan, but with a possible view to it becoming a permanent deal if it works out.
If there is any truth to this then I think its a possible deal that could work out for all parties.
United and Sancho need to part ways, while Sancho probably doesn't want to take a step down/ backwards.
United really need someone who can lock down the RW spot, and Raphinha was one of the best RW players while at Leeds.
Unfortunately for him it seems Xavi doesn't quite rate him, despite him playing well when called upon.
Stylistically I tend to think that Sancho does fit better in a side like Barcelona and Raphinha in a side like United.
I'd be pretty happy if the club managed to pull something like this off, what is everyone else's view?
1.) 03 Dec 2023 15:28:02
I mean I’d be delighted if we can pull that off. But I can’t see it.
2.) 03 Dec 2023 21:44:52
Sounds like a computer game transfer to me.
3.) 03 Dec 2023 21:52:43
Would rip your arm off for that deal but it’s all pie in the sky.
4.) 05 Dec 2023 01:58:03
We could do with new negotiators, or they might come back from Spain with a bunch of Rapini.
5.) 05 Dec 2023 09:07:03
Shappy
Wishful thinking. Why would Barcelona do that. He will end up somewhere in Italy as that's generally the league players end up when they don't work out in PL. He is not good enough for any of the top 3/ 4 teams in Spain and unaffordable for any in the next tier.
Its one of those players who will be hard to shift unless we take a bath on the transfer.
6.) 05 Dec 2023 21:09:51
Rumours today it’s Rashford ??♂️.
7.) 09 Dec 2023 20:22:57
I’d be happy if Rashford went tbh along with Sancho. The pair of ‘em aren’t bad players, as long as they get their own way. We aren’t currently in a place where we can carry talented babies though, so I’d get radical and get rid of the pair.
08 Jul 2023 14:41:19
DDG is gone, club just wished him well and said goodbye on Twatter.
1.) 08 Jul 2023 14:49:36
Great servant, but right time for MU and himself to move on, some of the replies made my blood boil though, clearly not fans but even still. he's got my respect and wish him well in his next venture.
2.) 08 Jul 2023 15:22:56
He's big, he's brave he's Spanish Dave
He makes great saves, he never shaves,
Flying through the air
Come and have a shot if you dare!
He indeed has been a great servant as well as a true professional in his behaviors. He will inevitably divide some on opinions, but no one can doubt some of the class saves over the years (Mata's freekick)
Ed002, what teams would be interested? Roma? Saudi clubs?
3.) 08 Jul 2023 15:43:50
Our best player over the last 12 years, gutted he is going but it is the right time for him and the club.
4.) 08 Jul 2023 15:22:56
He's big, he's brave he's Spanish Dave
He makes great saves, he never shaves,
Flying through the air
Come and have a shot if you dare!
He indeed has been a great servant as well as a true professional in his behaviors. He will inevitably divide some on opinions, but no one can doubt some of the class saves over the years (Mata's freekick)
Ed002, what teams would be interested? Roma? Saudi clubs?
{Ed002's Note - David De Gea (G) If Mr Mourinho stays at Roma, then perhaps interest. Perhaps someone in Spain or the Middle East. Manchester United have a list of potential replacements but want a new contract.}
5.) 09 Jul 2023 07:07:25
Good time for both parties to move on. Clearly looked very uncomfortable under ETH’s system. That being said, a brilliant keeper for us over the years. Wish him all the best. Italy seems an obvious move in the absence of decent Spanish interest - or of course Saudi!
28 May 2023 09:30:51
Heard a rumour this morning that United might look at Benjamin Pavard from Bayern Munich, as well as closely monitoring the situation with Ryan Gravenberch.
Bayern yesterday sacked their CEO Oliver Kahn and their Sporting Director Hasan Salihamidzic, possibly opening the door for some players to leave who might have been intending to stay under the previous regime.
Pavard would be an interesting option, capable of playing both CB and RB he'd be a very good option.
Gravenberch too has great potential but just can't get the game time he needs with players like Kimmich and Goretzka ahead of him.
1.) 28 May 2023 09:50:18
Think Ed002 said that Pavard is reluctant to consider us because he wants to play primarily as a cb.
2.) 28 May 2023 11:30:14
A RB who can also chip in at CB is a good shout, as is Frimpong.
I think Bayern have a number of players who should be of interest. I assume the Mount thing has legs and if so that would probably kill off any interest in Gravenberch and De Jong, and what of Sabitzer.
3.) 28 May 2023 12:13:02
Interesting thread this and might have legs as we know Erik likes players who can play multiple positions to limit the impact of injuries in the squad.
4.) 28 May 2023 13:25:20
Back in February, it was reported that his expected fee this summer could be £26.8m because his contract is up next year - that would amount to a bargain.
That said, it's likely that Bayern would still want more than that for a versatile defender approaching his prime.
The problem is that he wants to play CB and there can be no assurances offered by United that he'll be first-choice ahead of Varane.
He can play RB, but he might be reluctant about coming to a club where that could be his only consistent option.
That does also render Barcelona as a questionable option given that the superior Kounde is already playing RB to accommodate other players.
Personally, I'd expect him to move to a Serie A club.
5.) 28 May 2023 22:50:42
We really need to be looking at Gravenberch. I’m not sure if he’s even available but if he is and a a low price it’s a no brainier. Le fee is another player I hope we take a look at.
6.) 30 May 2023 10:44:36
varane missed 14 league games, went off 6 times, efl only played 90 mins in the final missed 4 games and subbed off once. Class act but never been consistantly fit for games throughout his career. Any cb coming in would get a minimum of 25 games a season if fit/ available.
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07 Oct 2024 07:39:09
{Ed's Note - Shappy has posted a new article entitled, Will EtH Leave Manchester United Soon?
06 Oct 2024 16:15:14
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28 Aug 2024 10:11:51
This Sterlng/ Sancho rumour is an odd one to be honest.
Sterling doesn't fit the profile of players the club have targeted this summer under the new regime.
I understand the clubs desire to move Sancho on, he hasn't delivered on the pitch, is on massive wages and has fallen out with the manager and other people at the club, largely due to his attitude.
Yet signing a 29 year old winger who has seen his form consistently decline over the past 3 years, and who is himself on massive wages seems a poor trade.
If Chelsea really want Sancho then there are numerous players who might be of interest to United for a potential swap deal.
Cucurella is a player United have tried to sign in the past, Colwill and Badiashile would also fit both the profile and needs of the club.
Chalobah, Chukwuemeka, Madueke, and obviously Cole Palmer (utter dreamland) are all other players that seem the right profile and fit our clubs areas of need.
I'd have a serious sit down with Chelsea to discuss a swap deal with Sancho for either/ or of Cucurella, Colwill and Madueke.
1.) 28 Aug 2024 11:36:10
I'll be stunned if we end up with Sterling for Sancho. Swap deals are far more complicated, which is why they're rare. Just because Chelsea want to get rid of Sterling and we want to get rid of Sancho, does not in anyway suggest a swap will do it. They're both overpaid and I honestly don't see why Chelsea might think adding another £300k a week salary to their roster will help them, particularly when that player has already shown he may not be able to cut it in the EPL.
Jumping out of the frying pan into the fire springs to mind. For both clubs.
2.) 28 Aug 2024 12:37:55
I think just as Utd are seeking a younger, hungrier profile of player, as are Chelsea, so I imagine the likes of Chucky / Madueke and Colwill are very much in their plans along with first choice LB Cucurella. They're only going to offer the flotsam that trains together in this infamous melee of has-beens including Chilwell.
Still, regardless of what the correct profile of is, it's still clearly a time of improvisation and opportunism in the market with many clubs seeking curveball deals in their war against FFP. Sterling doesn't fit, neither does Chilwell, but in the same way we can't expect to address everything this squad needs in one window, because so much is needed, there are players who can offer something for the short-term.
3.) 28 Aug 2024 14:43:54
Shappy why would Chelsea offer their starting LB, LCB or RW for Sancho? A player who has failed to re-settle back in England with massive wages who Utd want rid of? It would be like Chelsea offering Sterling for Garnacho, Mainoo or Martinez ? Chelsea value Colwill at around £100m, Cucurella they’d likely want their £60m back given he’s first choice and upwards of £50m for Madueke. Pretty much 2-3x what Utd can realistically expect to get for Sancho. Chelsea don’t really need another winger either, the potential swap of Sancho-Sterling mostly seems to be about 2 clubs both getting rid of unwanted players to be mutually beneficial.
{Ed002's Note - He won't be moving to Chelsea.}
4.) 28 Aug 2024 15:44:03
He'll go to Juve.
5.) 28 Aug 2024 16:55:36
Bit of an aside, but . £100m for Colwill? Is assume you sneezed when you put the fee in and pressed an extra zero?
6.) 28 Aug 2024 20:34:48
Spenno that’s the value all the rags attribute to him when linking him with PSG and Liverpool. He’s English and Home-Grown which will always inflate his value, left footed and I’d say further along his development than Branthwaite who Everton value at £70m.
Then other reasons more about Chelsea than the player such as him being only 1 of 2 players that are considered Club trained for European football at Chelsea currently when they require 4.
They also don’t need the money regardless of any potential FFP/ PSR issues as they have a conveyor belt of an academy to sell if needed. So yeah I imagine that would be roughly what they would value him at, that doesn’t mean he’s worth that amount or any club would pay that amount.
I don't imagine you truly believe he’s worth £10m though or do you? ?.
7.) 29 Aug 2024 08:51:01
Not at all Fuse, he's a starting CB for Chelsea, just baulked at the £100m suggestion. Seems to be the going rate for a young homegrown player, whack on an extra £25m for being left footed lol.
27 Aug 2024 07:39:10
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08 Oct 2024 17:48:44
I think we need to get better at finding young talents and bringing them to the club BEFORE they have a huge breakout season. As they then become ridiculously expensive.
Then we need to make sure we have a clear plan to help develop them until they are ready to be in the first team.
12 Sep 2024 14:15:15
Spenno, I wouldn't say that. The Bundesliga is notorious for giving forward players lots of good chances due to the prevalence of transitional styles of play the majority of teams adopt.
Sesko looks a great young player, but I don't think he'd get any more chances or score more than the likes of Højlund and Zirkzee if he was in our team.
12 Sep 2024 09:43:00
MancMan, I think the reality is somewhere in the middle.
Yes an employee is only worth what their employer will pay them. But then what an employer will pay is dependent on their need.
It's a balance. Some clubs will have a greater need for Rabiot, so will offer more money. But it's not just down to money. The fact Rabiot has reportedly turned down big offers from Saudi suggests that he values other things over a big pay day.
I'm sure he'll come to some agreement with a club that he is happy to move to.
From what I've heard DDG not having a club for a year wasn't about not being offered enough money. He has other businesses which brings him income. While the big driver for him to move to Real Madrid was about being back home near his family and to support his wife's career. He now has a young family, and he will make decisions based on what is best for his family and not just his bank account.
I'd imagine his perspective might have changed slightly after a year off. Maybe he missed it more than he thought he would, maybe his Mrs got sick of him getting under her feet at home and told him he needs to get back playing again.
12 Sep 2024 09:34:39
Good player, but with both Zirkzee and Højlund at the club and with young lads like Wheatley and Obi Martins looking to break into the first team over the next 2-3 years I'm not sure we need another young striker who needs game time to continue his development.
Especially as we typically play with just one striker. Normally at best one gets 60 minutes and another comes on for them for the last 30 minutes. That leaves two (3 if we signed Sesko) not playing.
I don't think we need another striker, certainly not a young one. Maybe there could be an argument for an older (32+) striker who is happy to have a similar role to Evans. Someone who's really there to pass on their experience and help develop the younger lads in training, occasionally playing during an injury crisis.
12 Sep 2024 09:29:22
While not on the same level he has grown into a similar player to Luka Modric. Very slight, but uses that to his advantage to make space for himself in tight and congested areas in midfield. Modric needed a little time playing wide in the EPL before he moved back into the heart of midfield as he got into his mid-twenties. Gomes looks like he's needed to take a similar pathway.
He has great technical ability, vision and passing range.
Lots of hype around him atm due to his England call up and performances. Yet as a homegrown player who knows the club, plays in a position we need more depth, and has skills we need, there is a lot to like, especially available on a free transfer.
Definitely one to keep an eye on and I hope he's being scouted. On paper his skills and ability would pair really well with Ugarte in a double pivot. With the Uruguayan adding the steel to Gomes's silk.
It would also free Mainoo to roam higher up the pitch, where he can influence the game in an attacking sense. Which to me looks like the best use of Kobbie's skills. Roaming link player who can defend from the front, play those little bounce passes to release a forward, or skip past a tackle and open up space himself either for a shot or to play the killer ball.
Angel is certainly a player I'll be trying to watch a bit more over this season for Lille.
09 Oct 2024 17:59:00
Ork, I disagree that the club should pander to the media and come out and make a statement every time the media starts to speculate.
Personally I think pandering to the media's speculation by making statements only adds fuel to the fire and gives justification to their morbid ramblings.
The club say nothing because there is nothing to say. They will speak only when they have something they need to communicate.
You don't win by playing to the media's tune. You take back control by not playing the media's silly little games.
The club hierarchy have a monthly meeting, that has happened to line up with the last and current international break. Which unfortunately is a time where the media have less real news to report so start tumbling down the rabbit hole to Wonderland.
When a decision is made and something is happening I'm sure the club will make a statement. Until that point the manager is the manager, end of conversation.
09 Oct 2024 06:46:27
I actually love not knowing. It means we are a proper football club again being run by the right sort of people.
It is none of the media's business knowing anything before the club announces it. It's actually detrimental to the club for information being leaked to the press. The fact it has seemingly stopped is a very good sign that the club is getting back on its feet.
06 Oct 2024 21:37:17
Caolan, that just isn't true. There are thousands who would do a far worse job.
In fact every single one of the reported 1 billion Manchester United fans worldwide for a start, myself included.
There are maybe only a handful of top level football managers who have the ability to manage a club the size of ourselves.
Everyone else will fail. Are any of those handful available AND willing to join us? Probably not.
Which means we would be swapping a manager who doesn't look good enough for another who won't be good enough.
I get that fans are frustrated, but I'm not sure there is much point in the club spending millions of pounds to sack EtH and replace him with someone who will equally struggle to deal with the same problems EtH is struggling with.
06 Oct 2024 21:30:47
What makes you think any fans suggesting that more time is needed are happy with the current performances and results?
I expected more progress under EtH than we have seen to this point.
I accept that it doesn't happen over night and there have been a plethora of issues the manager has had to deal with.
That said I would hope that the players he has signed would be performing better than they currently are.
I think this squad is a long way away from being good enough to challenge for major honours, but I do think it has more quality than we are seeing right now.
For me the biggest issue is an inability to find a balanced midfield that doesn't have at least one obvious and glaring weakness.
Am I happy with the current performances? Absolutely not, but I'm also not convinced that sacking the manager now and replacing him with one of the options available (either permanent or temporary) will see a significant improvement beyond a month or so of new manager bounce. After which the same issues will restrict and hinder the next manager.
Do I think EtH is the answer? Not really, but I don't think sacking him is the answer either.
I'm not happy to watch these performances, but I try and make decisions with my head and not based on emotions.
05 Oct 2024 18:51:29
Grim, I never thought EtH was the solution, but I thought he was part of it.
That's the thinking we need to move away from. That some manager is going to ride in like a white knight and save us.
That just isn't going to happen, it's going to take many people working together, pulling in the same direction towards a shared vision. It will take time, it will require the occasional backwards step to be able to then take a few more steps forward.
It won't be smooth and plain sailing, the path.