Manchester United Rumours

09 Oct 2025 09:24:30
Anyone seen the post by Turki alalshikh? Seems to be saying United are close to selling to a new investor. Whether that's full sale or just extra funding who knows. Might also just be bs for publicity. What do we think?

09 Oct 2025 13:49:50
Believe there was a clause in the Ratcliffe deal that after a certain period allowed the Glazers to sell and Ratcliffe would be forced to sell his holding for the price per share the Glazers agreed.

Anything that gets the Glazers out and debt paid off in full will mean popping Champagne corks

The next question is whether the prospective buyer has enough money or is it just the Glazers want to raise more money by selling more shares but not concede control. Not completely sure on the company structure but think if Ratcliffe were to buy more shares that took him over 30% he may be required to offer to all shareholders the same price per share in a full takeover. Hence why he sits at below 30%. Unless there is a clause saying they can’t, then as long as they retain overall 51% the Glazers may sell shares above that level to someone else and pocket the next load of cash. The club won’t benefit until they and the debt are gone completely. A happy day.

09 Oct 2025 15:25:30
The freeze period ended around mid August RedMan. The 1958 were planning a protest before the Arsenal game but cancelled due to some positive feedback from fans regarding signings and the new training centre. I found it interesting the SJR would put so much money into a project when potentially he could be forced sell his shares. Apparently he gets the opportunity to match any offer the Glazers recieve. I posted that it felt like something was in the pipeline. It’s interesting an individual like Turki Alalshikh would post something like this but no idea if it has any substance. I also, perhaps reading too much into it, found the wording of ‘investors’ rather than buyers/ owners interesting and maybe deliberate?

There has also been no movement from the 1958 recently who have been so vocal and active in their protests to the Glazers. You do wonder if they have been briefed that something is happening?!

OR this could all be nonsense and we are getting excited about the Glazers being gone for nothing 😂.

10 Oct 2025 08:46:58
Probably linked to investment in the stadium.

10 Oct 2025 11:12:21
Someone buying up all the seat licences?

10 Oct 2025 14:15:39
turki says a lot of stuff. would not spend too much on what he says. He likes the attention.

10 Oct 2025 15:50:24
If only this were true….

10 Oct 2025 21:09:52
redseven are you for real? The Glazers are awful, but wanting to be a pawn in a sportswashing operation isn't something I'd like to see happen.

11 Oct 2025 11:16:09
I'll be very happy to see the back of the Glasers. They have offered nothing to our club but have taken plenty from us.

That said I am cautious over who it is who eventually buys them out. I'm overall pleased with how INEOS have managed things since they bought into the club. I wouldn't want any new ownership to rock the boat with that. Ideally a change in ownership would either see a total buyout by INEOS, or they at least own the controlling stake in the club so as to not complicate the running of the club.

We have to remember that anyone prepared to pay the eye watering costs of buying us will be doing so with their own agenda, and that may or may not be in our best interests.

Be that sports washing or merely for financial gain. The last thing we need is a power struggle with billionaires squaring off against eachother across the board room.

Personally, what would be my ideal situation is for INEOS to increase their stake to around 70% or more, then maybe a minority stakeholder comes in with around 30% stake. Meaning we are shot of the Glasers, but there isn't going to be a power struggle, or change in how the club is currently being run. INEOS owning a significant majority over anyone else makes things far more secure.

I have a feeling that Sir Jim might set things up and in place for some kind of partial fan ownership held in trust for after he dies. Meaning his legacy will be rebuilding the club and then giving it back to the fans. INEOS is suspect will still own a majority and controlling stake, but the rest being fan owned.

11 Oct 2025 12:44:51
Nothing could be worse than the Glazers and the debt they have saddled the club with.

If somebody agrees a deal with the Glazers, Ratcliffe will have the opportunity to match it. I’m still not completely sold on INEOS, though, so whether he does or he doesn’t, I’ll be glad to see the back of the yanks.

11 Oct 2025 14:30:01
You mention sportswashing but conveniently forget to mention the awful history of the glazer family in American politics DonRed?

Extremely large contributors to the Bush presidental campaign, which eventually led to an illegal war that killed millions?

Its only fair to mention both, two cheeks of the same arse as far as I care, but you must be fair. Again, I absolutely do not agree with sport washing nor would I endorse for any of these c**** to own the club, who are undoubtedly involved in atrocities across planet. No to both!

11 Oct 2025 15:36:56
One is some prats I don't like. The other is a government funded operation to detract from horrific acts. You are equating direct involvement with indirect. That is whataboutism. I'm also not sure about your analysis of this. The Glazers give money to anyone that'll suit them. They funded a lot to both the Trump and Harris campaigns last time. You are stretching very much imo to put those two on the same footing.

11 Oct 2025 16:14:38
"Some prats I don’t like" is doing a lot of heavy lifting there and i’m not saying the UAE investors and the Glazers are identical, one’s a state trying to polish its image. But let’s not act like the Glazers are some neutral ‘just business’ owners either. Their money’s been tied up in nasty sh1t

If the point is moral high ground, there isn’t one. It’s picking between a sportswashing operation and parasites who’ve bled the club dry while funding war-mongers. Different flavours of the same 💩 sandwich. I just don’t want either anywhere near United. ”.

11 Oct 2025 16:18:45
And no, that’s not whataboutism, that’s just called having a memory. You don’t get to downplay one set of rotten politics just because it’s wrapped in a different flag.

If we’re talking morals, the Glazers have happily bankrolled people who create the mess, while the other lot are using football to cover theirs. One’s direct, one’s indirect, both are still rotten to the core.

One stinks less loud, that’s all. Still stinks.

12 Oct 2025 14:53:04
Saying that I shouldn't take sportswashing seriously because of some other indirect involvement via funding a politician before they took an action is pretty much the archetypical example of whataboutism.

12 Oct 2025 17:38:34
That’s not what I said at all. I never told you not to take sportswashing seriously, I said don’t act like the Glazers are some moral alternative. And no, that’s not whataboutism, pointing out that both sides are rotten isn’t deflection, it’s context.

08 Oct 2025 22:35:14
It seems the club are in talks with Maguire for a new deal. He did better last year but he isn't good enough I'm afraid. We need to be improving on him if we're to get anywhere. Just on monetary grounds I'm perplexed by this as surely he'd have to accept well under 50% of his current contract for this to even be a discussion.

09 Oct 2025 08:57:38
Good squad player, experienced head and leader in the dressing room. What’s the problem?

09 Oct 2025 09:20:25
I imagine a wage cut will be part of it as his on field time will likely drop but a solid professional to have around.

09 Oct 2025 09:24:26
He is a squad player, not a good one. Too old, slow, ponderous and he will sit on bench with little or no return for the investment.

Time to move on and not end up with another old player taking up space.

But then it ain’t no secret what I think about slabhead.

09 Oct 2025 10:44:32
Culpable for many goals conceded. He has never been at the required level for a top CB.

As per Keefy T, he is slow and ponderous. Utd need to continue to add quality and not mediocre players to challenge for the top 4, even top 6.

I think it was down to Southgate picking him for England that has kept Maguire at Utd for so long.

09 Oct 2025 11:02:37
Eric79 I listed the problems! I don't get the idea of having someone in the dressing room that is unlikely to play. That either blocks a young kid coming through or it means we don't get in a replacement. And paying someone at least 100k/ week to have the privilege of having them sit beside the players that are on the pitch definitely doesn't make sense to me.

09 Oct 2025 11:15:13
Get rid, he is beyond crap and has been one of the constants over the last few years as we have slowly descended into the abyss we currently find ourselves trying to pull ourselves out from.

29 Sep 2025 17:47:29
Whispers are that there has been a meeting today in which the club have defined a style of play which they have told the head coach he is required to play. That is a formation 433.

Who knows if true but if true it's a watershed moment, the club setting a direction is one point but what does it mean if they replace RA? Will the new incumbent be told to play 433? Does it rule out Glasner? Will RA resign if told how to play? Is any of this true?

Rumour site so there you go.

29 Sep 2025 18:29:07
I can't imagine it's true, it would be a ridiculously dangerous and stupid thing to do.

It's one thing to say the team needs to play a front foot, attacking style of play. And completely another to dictate to a coach/ manager what formation the team have to play. What next which players have to start?

You hire a manager to manage the team, it is down to them how they set their team up, ultimately they will live and die by the results they get.

We have ended up in the almighty mess we find ourselves in by having unqualified people making decisions about which they know very little, certainly not their area of expertise. It would be a shame after all the good work rebuilding the club structure behind the scenes only to start repeating the mistakes of the past.

{Ed025's Note - "it would be a shame after all the good work rebuilding the club structure" ?...when did that good work actually happen Shappy...i must have missed that..

29 Sep 2025 19:07:41
Interview with Glasner where he speaks about playing the formation he thinks best suits his players. 4-4-2 is his favourite but that doesn’t suit his players at Palace. Speaks very well about formation.

29 Sep 2025 21:38:40
It sounds plausible.

INEOS came in very strong with Game Model and committing to the club having an identity and style down to youth teams. That went quite with Amorim and the youth have remained successful without 3421.

It makes a lot of sense and means the players signed are for the club not the coach.

Shappy you’re coming across like a contrarian. What Redman says makes aligns with how many clubs operate.

30 Sep 2025 06:42:03
they would be incompetent if they allow this to continue. amorim is a fraud with nice words. get rid.

30 Sep 2025 08:53:35
Guessing you’ve seen the post from IndyKaila News on X.

Let’s hope he changes to a 433 but, given Amorim said he wouldn’t even change for the Pope, seems highly unlikely.

Results must improve though, otherwise his exit will be inevitable.

30 Sep 2025 09:24:18
Personally it feels like the narrative surrounding Amorim has changed, and a new manager will be in place soon. I have a feeling Liverpool will be his last game with a new manager starting after that as there is a decent run of games until new year.

30 Sep 2025 14:33:17
It feels like there is growing downward pressure on Amorim. While the directors will be reluctant to sack him, and admit they made a huge mistake, they also realise that things can’t continue like this. I wouldn’t be surprised to see interference with coaching decisions, or strong nudges towards a different play style.

However, if Amorim has proven anything, it’s that he’s stubbornly committed to playing his way. It might be a case that he would rather resign than change. But being a head coach, there is also scope for the directors to force his hand. Will be interesting to see how this eventually plays out. Regardless, I can’t see him still in the job by the end of the year.

30 Sep 2025 20:42:24
What I don’t understand is why are the youth teams still playing 433 and 4231 if the hierarchy hired Amorim to play this 3421.

Seems to me the structure isn’t aligned through the club which is another balls up.

30 Sep 2025 23:54:20
Or if that rumour is true could the club be trying to save £12m by getting RA to resign instead of being sacked?

01 Oct 2025 19:38:01
Why would anybody resign and walk away from £12m.

02 Oct 2025 22:08:49
Did RA not say he would just that, Eric? Or words to that effect at least.

03 Oct 2025 04:30:27
That’s his problem he is just words!
He says things and then blames it on emotion, in the heat of the moment crap
Great talk the talk man, but that’s all he got
Talks a good game.

26 Sep 2025 15:57:27
The global talent search continues.
Cristian Orozco, a very highly rated 17 year old defensive midfielder who plays for Fortaleza, in Colombia has signed a pre contract agreement and will become a United player when he turns 18, next July. A deal similar to that of Diego Leon who signed last summer.

He recently captained his country to the final at the South American U17 Championships, but were beaten by Brazil.

This drive for worldwide talent is being led by Jason Wilcox and Head of Recruitment Christopher Vivell who discovers the talent.

Even if all these signings don't become first team regulars it is hoped that a pool of talent will be created and sold to help finance new signings.
A very solid business strategy, if successful!

27 Sep 2025 09:46:14
Over the last decade we have spent over a billion on players most of which haven't even come close to being value for money. Huge fees, huge wages and underwhelming performances.

Many of these players we have ended up stuck with after they've flopped as no other clubs are willing to match their wages.

I'm not saying we shouldn't spend big on some signings, but we need a more balanced approach.

I really like the idea of scouting the world for the best young talent at academy level and looking to bring them into the club.

The signings of Sekou Kone, Ayyden Heaven, Chido Obi, Diego Leon, and Enzo Kana-Biyik have all happened under the new ownership. If even one of them becomes a regular first team player then that represents the best investment in players our club have made in over a decade. With the club having spent only a few million in total to bring them ALL into the club. While their low wages and high potential means even the ones who ultimately don't make it, we will still be able to sell them for a profit.

We have actually seen this model used at our club before the INEOS take over. We signed young players like Hannibal, Kambwala, Alvaro Fernandez, Harry Amass, Toby Collyer, the Fletcher twins, and Garnacho from other academies both in England and abroad, with us selling Hannibal, Kambwala, Fernandez, and Garnacho all for a profit. If Amass and Collyer don't make it to the level we need, then no doubt they will also sell for far more than we paid to bring them in.

With the tighter financial regulations in football this has to be seen as a sensible way to run the club both from a financial perspective and a footballing one.

It allows us to bring in some of the best young talents from around the world, players who maybe initially flit between the under 21's and the first team while they settle, they may even go out on a loan or two (look at the new role for Jonny Evans), or provide squad depth for the first team. Quality depth, who aren't being paid a fortune, and who are happier to be a rotation option.

If they take their chances then they become first team regulars, if not then after a 2-3 years we sell them at a profit and reinvest that money into the first team squad.

If every year we spend 3-5m on a handful of young academy players, but we sell 3-5 ex-academy players for 20-50m then we are making huge profits. Occasionally we will get a first team regular out of it, or maybe a player like Garnacho who has talent but isn't the right fit for us who we can sell for a huge fee on their own.

Over the past decade our best value for money transfers haven't been brought into the club through the front door with the big fanfare, but quietly slipped in through the backdoor into the academy before flourishing into the first team.

It's not the only approach we should look to do, but definitely an important one that we can and should be exploiting far more.

27 Sep 2025 10:19:42
I was confused when INEOS were banging on about this, this was United’s transfer policy for years under Fergie.

We all remember the famous remarks he made about no value in the market and then some random 20year old would turn up from some unheard of country and not last long, or be shipped off to Antwerp. Occasionally he would get one big spend like a Berbatov, van Perise or a Cole.

It wasn’t until Fergie retired that the Glazers started throwing money at the problem, obviously not their money, and it hasn’t really created a stable side and long term success.

27 Sep 2025 18:08:53
Global search for a decent manager would be a good start….
Then get the club all teams to play same way under that managers direction.

What we got now is just bordering on insanity, if this kid is special talent, he leaves, that’s 100%.

01 Sep 2025 18:57:56
Amass of on loan to Sheffield Wednesday.

Quite a clear out of permanent and loan deals.

02 Sep 2025 20:53:06
He will hand plenty of defending to do. Good experience for him. Hope he plays regularly. i'm sure he will as they are short of good players. They were big club with lots of good players at one time. I really hope they find a way out of the mess they are in.

03 Sep 2025 08:07:31
Where we loan we need to ensure as much as possible they will be first choice and will play regularly. Apparently United are paying his salary and expenses. Wednesday are a historic club, been to Hillsbrough a number of times and it will be a good experience for Amass.

03 Sep 2025 08:33:38
Both Amass and Collyer have got good loan moves this summer. Now it is up to them.

03 Sep 2025 18:54:56
Class gesture too.

04 Sep 2025 21:23:31
Totally Key. We’re quick to jump in on Ineos about every penny pinching measure they’ve taken, but this is very cool.

09 Sep 2025 07:43:08
it baffles me we kept him and let the spanish boy go who now plays for madrid.

09 Sep 2025 22:51:22
Amass was 16 when we let 20 year old Alvaro go, the 2 aren’t linked at all.

09 Sep 2025 22:56:45
I think every single transfer decision we’ve made since Fergie left and this new team have come in has been baffling. Bruno is our only sensible transfer during this period of time.

10 Sep 2025 16:56:49
GDS2 your right ones a top player and the other won't even be a prem player, well done great decision.

12 Sep 2025 08:32:32
I posted relentlessly on here about how good Alvaro could be and the ridiculous decision to let Alvaro leave when we had no left back. ETH should have been sacked just for that . Very few supported what I said about Alvaro. I watched him play for Preston a few times and you could see the potential. ETH was an utter disgrace on this and other decisions. I am pleased RA has been putting some right but the boy Alvaro was a shocking decision.