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28 Dec 2025 19:16:16
In some devastating news it seems Maguire is close to a return.
1.) 28 Dec 2025 20:04:13
Why is that devastating?
2.) 28 Dec 2025 21:10:24
Maguire will be backup and we need experience on the bench. But I'd be highly surprised if he displaces Heaven.
3.) 29 Dec 2025 02:01:23
Coz he is pants!
4.) 29 Dec 2025 09:37:29
Really don't understand the issue with Maguire. He always gives his all, has scored some great late goals, and brings valuable experience to the younger defenders. I don't want him starting, but I have no problem with him being fit and available.
At this point, it is purely forced hate.
5.) 29 Dec 2025 09:59:36
Never been his biggest fan, but if Maguire was fit for the last 6 games we would certainly have more points, think we win both the west ham and bournemouth games we drew at home at the least.
Ironically the way the premier league has been this year suits Maguire the most since he joined, he is an absolute unit and quality in the air.
6.) 29 Dec 2025 16:29:48
He’s been good in a back 3, it suits his attributes. I’ve been critic over the years but fair play he is a top pro, kept his head down and has shown up when needed over the last 2 years.
7.) 29 Dec 2025 17:38:31
Yep, he's been solid this year. Limited but has shown his value this year.
8.) 29 Dec 2025 17:45:24
I am one of his biggest critics, but will be the first to say we could have done with him these last few weeks with MdL out.
That said, we have to keep moving forward as a group. We have a number of players coming through in CB, us we have the likes of Licha and Shaw stepping up or back from injury. For me, if MdL is fit, he nudges Maguire to the bench.
He is coming to the end of his contract, and I think we let him go. Simply because what we have is going to need adding to.
Licha, MDL, Heaven, Yoro, Shaw, Fredrickson, Mazraoui, Maguire
He is 32.
Even if he was on reduced wages (sub 100k/w), I still don't think I'd keep him as he would take a spot away from either a new signing or a youth player coming through.
His experience would be valuable, but we have sufficient experience in that area from MDL and Shaw and Licha.
9.) 29 Dec 2025 19:06:41
Agree with Jim.
10.) 30 Dec 2025 18:39:16
I would keep him. Seems to be a good professional. Worked hard to get his place back. You cannot buy experience and should be a good influence on younger players plus he is a valuable asset at set pieces.
25 Oct 2025 13:12:30
I waxed lyrical a while back on a young kid from Oz called Nestory Irankunda. He is now plying his trade at Watford and doing well.
Next cab off the rank is Alex Badolato. 20 years old. Even the pundits over here are saying he's that good so let's just enjoy him whilst he is still in Oz. Like Irankunda he has all the skill and can absolutely nail a ball from distance.
08 Oct 2024 06:04:01
For a bit of fun and to address an earlier comment about how long fans have been around and their "pedigree". Can we list the first game you went to, how old were you, where and when? That will perhaps give away peoples age! Be good to see the spread we have on here and perhaps give some perspective to opinions.
1.) 08 Oct 2024 07:00:37
May 2003 for me vs. Charlton. 4-1 win with a RVN hat-trick!
2.) 08 Oct 2024 07:21:44
Mine was at Hillsborough. 1976. Cup semi v Derby County. Gordon Hill won 2-0.
3.) 08 Oct 2024 07:32:09
1990 FA Cup Final.
3-3 v's Palace
I was 9 years old at the time.
4.) 08 Oct 2024 08:43:12
Leeds at OT it was a 1-1 draw. Scholes for us and Alan smith for them. I think it was 2003.
5.) 08 Oct 2024 09:00:06
How about fans who have never had a chance to watch Utd but for TVs?
6.) 08 Oct 2024 09:31:24
1985 FA cup quarter final against west ham. 4-2 win on our way to FA cup victory that season. Was 8 and loved Whiteside and Hughes.
7.) 08 Oct 2024 09:51:41
Luton at home, 1991, 5-0 win.
8.) 08 Oct 2024 09:52:15
77 cup final v Liverpool I was 8.
9.) 08 Oct 2024 09:59:13
1987: Man Utd 3-1 Oxford. Jesper Olsen was my instant hero.
10.) 08 Oct 2024 10:12:05
1957. Age 7. Home to Aston Villa. 1-1 draw. Lost to them later in the FA Cup final. Lost everything the following February.
11.) 08 Oct 2024 10:17:56
Ha mine was the exact same as angry Keane, 3-3 v Palace in 1990, my Dad took me, I was 7 and I’d chosen United to support with my Dads encouragement. Little did I realise I’d have the best growing up ever to come, with United, lucky to have been part of all that really.
12.) 08 Oct 2024 10:19:31
1979, FA Cup 4th round replay, Fulham. Won 1-0, Jimmy Greenhoff.
13.) 08 Oct 2024 10:19:57
Manchester United 2 v 0 West Ham United, 26 August 1985.
Funnily enough Jesper Olsen was my favourite player and probably the reason I first followed Utd, being a fan of the Danish national team.
14.) 08 Oct 2024 10:26:32
I have been a fan since 1974 but first match was sadly
1977 Man Utd 0 Chelsea 1
Never stopped me believing though.
15.) 08 Oct 2024 10:45:08
For me. First game was 1962. I was 3 months old! First game that I watched properly was August 1966 WBA. But in all fairness it was just a blur as a memory.
First game as real active fan was 1970. Leeds at home. Lost 1-0
Had a season ticket from then until 2001 when we moved to Oz. Still regretting giving it up.
Spend. Jesper lives in Sydney. Met him when United were there.
16.) 08 Oct 2024 10:51:04
the famous 1995 3.1 away game defeat against villa, i was 12.
17.) 08 Oct 2024 11:07:11
Birmingham 2-0 at home 75 season.
18.) 08 Oct 2024 11:35:22
Bournemouth in the FA Cup Feb 1989. Finished 1-1, got a picture in the Match magazine at the time. Squad I found online was:
Jim Leighton, Steve Bruce, Paul McGrath, Clayton Blackmore, Mal Donaghy, Lee Martin, Bryan Robson, Gordon Strachan, Ralph Milne
Mark Hughes, Brian McClair.
19.) 08 Oct 2024 11:36:32
1984 - 1st December v Norwich. Hughes and Robson in a 2-0 win.
20.) 08 Oct 2024 12:01:33
19th August 1989, Arsenal at home - late 9th Birthday present.
4-1 win at home against the defending champions - I was hooked, but that was about as good as it got until the cup final.
Weirdly, there were stark similarities to the tenure of ten Hag - Fergie was heavily backed in the market, there were takeover murmurings and machinations that seemingly engulfed everything, there was an injury crisis, cup win seemingly buying the boss some time, and we ended the season in 13th.
Being devil's advocate here, but we would have had Bobby Robson as manager if that takeover happened - how different things could have been. ?
That said, ten Hag is no Fergie.
As a young lad I watched a few more games that season and saw Fergie as some grumpy, red-faced, pork pie-looking thing who reminded me of a bellend neighbour we had. However, as a self-confessed nerd, over the years I began to appreciate the art of orchestrating the team, whether that was helped by measured instruction or berating a player so badly that the recipient must have seen his gaffer's tonsils.
I don't feel that from ten Hag who, while trying to appear studious and composed, has the irritating habit of looking like a toddler seeking someone to blame for the ice cream falling out of his cone.
So there's my first 'Stripe', a match that is matched or bettered by little. That doesn't make me any more or less valid a fan than anyone older or younger, but I have seen the doldrums before and won't presume the 'Good old days' to be the overarching gauge for merit or suggest 'Long-standing fans' to be any greater authority on anything over younger people simply because their teeth are longer.
I mean, look at the state of the planet - some older people are morons.
Let's just accept reality.
Some people think they know more or should have their opinions regarded more highly simply because they're older - that's as pathetic as it is arrogant. As I've said before, I've spoken to many old hats over the years and there's an equal reflection amongst them of the levels of stupid seen elsewhere in the world.
A person's 'stripes' do not determine authority amongst a fanbase - it's not an army, is it?
Pedigree? Nah, delusion.
21.) 08 Oct 2024 12:15:06
February 2001 - 1-0 Win at Home to Everton, rather uneventful game.
22.) 08 Oct 2024 12:16:14
1959 pre season 1st team vs Reserves warmup match. Scoreboard standing only end, sat on a crush barrier on my Dad's mac. I was 9.
Waited outside and got my first ever autograph. Had to ask him who he was.
"Albert Quixall".
23.) 08 Oct 2024 12:52:36
Well done Keefy for getting that somewhat pointless poll off the top.
24.) 08 Oct 2024 13:00:34
First home match was King Eric’s testimonial. First away match was a 1-1 draw at Villa Park.
25.) 08 Oct 2024 13:18:37
Home to Leeds march 1979, I was 9, we won 4-1 Andy Ritchie scored a hat trick. Instant hero to my young self!
26.) 08 Oct 2024 14:16:26
77 season under sexton. 2nd game of the season, We beat Coventry 2-1 Started that season really well and then it went badly:) Those were some tough years.
27.) 08 Oct 2024 14:25:49
Embarrassing to say, I don't remember! Some time in the mid 60s. I do remember watching Best score a beautiful goal v, Sheffield United in a top of the table clash in 1971. Then there's the enduring memory of standing in the SE Paddock as a sodden Dennis Law flicked a V sign at the linesman for calling him offside. Dementia must be setting in!
28.) 08 Oct 2024 15:10:50
2nd December 1978. Norwich at home.
Went over on the old overnight cattle ferry to Liverpool with my dad and three uncles. Stayed at another uncle's in Audenshaw or somewhere like that.
Went down the day before and met Mickey Thomas, Jimmy Greenhoff and Sammy McIlroy coming out of training and they signed my autograph book. Jimmy was my hero, but Mickey was great craic with us, and with me especially. Back in the days when the players would just stroll around outside OT.
Game was frozen off the next morning! ?
Went back at the end of the month to see them play WBA. Great game, beat 5-3, but what a team WBA had back then.
29.) 08 Oct 2024 15:15:06
Ork, I remember that game as Neil Webb's debut. He scored a corker.
30.) 08 Oct 2024 16:44:16
United vs PSV in 2000 was my first game. 3-1 win with goals from Sheringham, Scholes and Yorke.
31.) 08 Oct 2024 17:19:12
West Brom 1981. What I didn't realise at the time or for a few years until my dad or grandad told meafter was that my all time hero was playing, but for West Brom that day, one of three future United players playing for the opposition that day with Robson still the greatest player I ever saw.
I have no idea about the players playing I just remember the atmosphere was electric.
32.) 08 Oct 2024 17:25:15
Spenno
Didn't he just, that was a proper little worldie.
I remember it more for being bounced around early doors when Brucey did a Brucey - what a start.
33.) 08 Oct 2024 17:55:19
Ipswich 6 MU 0 - 1980. Gary Bailey (my favourite player then) saved 3 pens.
34.) 08 Oct 2024 18:36:06
1985-86 season, Chelsea at OT, we lost to a last minute Kerry Dixon goal. Didn't wear my glasses cause I thought they would get knocked off from an enthusiastic crowd, so saw a blurred version of the game.
Eric and Spenno are right Jesper Olsen was a legend and still my favourite ever United player. He scored the penalty that day if my memory is still working.
35.) 08 Oct 2024 22:18:30
Watching us spank Roma 7-1 at old Trafford. What an introduction!
36.) 08 Oct 2024 22:29:33
geez everyone is old here lol. no wonder the conversation. bunch of old grumpy men lol.
37.) 09 Oct 2024 05:11:43
FA Cup Final 1979, beat 3-2. i was 8 years old.
38.) 09 Oct 2024 12:22:50
Okay so “pedigree” was a wrong choice of words. It was merely to understand peoples background as fans to understand what may or may not influence their feelings whether they be right or wrong.
Everyone else entered into the spirit of it but hey ho whatever puts wind in your sail.
I have never flagged my relative longevity as a fan to push my opinion and as you say anyone who does is foolish. Far smarter fans than me that are many years younger.
39.) 09 Oct 2024 13:27:23
Keefy most people are younger than you???.
40.) 09 Oct 2024 14:07:38
Keefy
It wasn't directed at you mate, I just grasped at the word which defines the position of another poster on here.
He knows who he is and I'm sure he read it, but has opted to duck it.
In hindsight, I maybe should have worded it better.
Sorry mate. ?.
41.) 09 Oct 2024 19:42:15
All good! Sorry for being grumpy!
42.) 10 Oct 2024 14:54:15
1st live match I caught was on the radio 1995 we beat Soton 4-1.
01 May 2024 18:23:22
I know it's probably old news but other than moving the dugouts which is common knowledge. I learnt the other day that ETH changed the side the players line up on. Now I admit I am an old traditionalist but they lined up next to Stretford end "to be near the heart of the club" and Erik changed that. Why? To me that's just change for change sake and achieves nothing other than to remove a long tradition. Well as least as long as the new tunnel has been in use.
12 Dec 2023 23:10:06
Okay
Get that stats and excuse pens out lads. I am keen to be educated/ lambasted.
We gave yet another poor performance against Bayern. Never looked in the game and are a million miles away from Europe next year, in any format.
Now we could keep banging on the old injury drum but in all fairness how many of the them are really first team players at this stage? The issue is the squad depth. We should be more than capable of covering injuries. And to be honest, even with a full squad we couldn't threaten anyone with the poor spirit in the team. They are NOT playing for the shirt, they are playing for their, frankly unjustified money.
If ETH was half the manager he is believed to be (and yes I am rapidly turning against him) then he would get these clowns playing with some pride, even with 11 under 18's on the park. If they are not then it is his problem, period!
We have NOT beaten anybody of any substance this year and it is only because the other teams have lost points and not because of our desire on the park that we find ourselves fortunately where we are. Those we have beaten have been very fortunate wins in some cases.
Now am I being negative? Hell yeah! I am frankly really fed up with the rubbish we are being served up and no amount of stat manipulation and bad luck stories are going to polish this t*rd.
Get ready for ETH and chosen player to tell everyone how we are disappointed and how we will reset and come out fighting at Anfield.
Imagine an old paintbrush with no bristles. Do you keep using that one and get nowhere fast or pick up a newer less suitable one that at the very least will do a job albeit a little less refined?
FED UP - NOT ANGRY!
1.) 13 Dec 2023 00:06:07
We lost 1 nil to bayern, far worse results came before in this group. We are where we are because of a poor squad. We are where we deserve. Injuries have hurt, big time.
Shaw is now back and the quality has increased. But we are relying on loans (when has United relied on first team players for loans?! )
Martinez is a big loss, and a first teamer.
Cassemiro is a big loss and a first team player.
Varane same, no idea why he has been out of favour.
I don't see it, but I have to hope we bought Mount to play where mctominay is playing. He couldn't surely be any worse.
Quite why we don't play amrabat and Mainoo is beyond me. But what do us poor fans know?
Bottom line is that the club is currently broken. Liverpool can smell blood in the water. A few more players will probably get injured in training this week, they won't fancy the challenge, that is for sure.
2.) 13 Dec 2023 00:15:19
Liverpool will be licking their lips. It could be another six or seven nil drubbing.
3.) 13 Dec 2023 00:27:06
I think we’ll go to Anfield and put in a real show of defiance with hunger and passion at the forefront and players really busting a gut like Robson and Whiteside used to do
Sorry I just woke up, it will be the lame damp squid as usual with Dalot high 5 big everyone because he has given a corner away
I’ve seen more fight in a corpse than these clowns.
4.) 13 Dec 2023 05:34:02
Last night was abject surrender, designed not to lose by many. Luton would have given Bayern more of a game. That lack of fight is from the top down. I watched after they scored and ETH was sat numb on the bench. Top down acceptance of what was happening, tactical keep it tight, they score oh well that's that then. Appalling.
5.) 13 Dec 2023 06:01:08
would have to totally disagree with Redman.
He seems to want to vent at everyone after every loss. Last night we went into the game missing 9 players and ended with 11 out injured.
What was available was put out there and they tried against a Bayern team missing one player and stacked. It was not tactical screw up or all the other bs people keep talking about and quite frankly getting tired of it.
Sometimes its a case of the other guys are just much better and have lots of quality across the pitch. They are seasoned CL campaigners and winners. Their back 4 gave our front 3 nothing all game.
It was always a game you play trying to stay in the game keep it tight and score one. I saw some people saying have a go. I assume in layman terms its throwing 5 forwards, which we don't have and being completely open. The problem is the same people will come here and post what a disgrace it was as they picked us off for 4 or 5 goals. Can't have it both ways and grow up.
I expect a similar set up at Liverpool and playing not to lose anything else is tactically retarded with the current options of players.
Someone asked who was missing that would have started. Okay I will make it easy for you Martinez, Rashford, Cas, Ericson and losing Shaw and Maguire who are currently shoe ins as starters meant we played the second half with 6 out.
We lost putting in an effort but they are solid across the pitch. get over it. It will not get any better until after the winter break. Losing shaw and maguire is awful as it impacts games against the likes of villa at home and westham away. Anything that can go wrong for us is going wrong atm. We are scrapping the bottom of the barrel now with team sheets.
6.) 13 Dec 2023 06:33:48
How many of those injured players are starters did the poster say? Jesus are you delusional! Plenty of them! Thought we did ok first half but not so much second! Not going to be too critical of last night it was lost well before then! But anyone who thinks injuries have not hampered our season are talking out their backside!
7.) 13 Dec 2023 07:46:06
Ahmad
Have a look at ETH demeanour after they scored
Amrabat and McT centre midfield and Antony doing what Antony does. Once they scored we gave up, unacceptable. We went out with other poor performances but at home we didn’t even give them a game. Accountability is with ETH no matter what, questions are there about his tactics, his purchases.
Last night why was Varane suddenly ok, after being ostracised for weeks. It’s an utter mess and ETH has questions to answer.
8.) 13 Dec 2023 07:53:17
Plenty? Bwahaha. Nobody is saying the injuries have not affected us. You would have to be mad to think otherwise. That is not up for debate. A no brainer even. What we are saying is that we should be able to cover injuries, with squad depth But the the very least SHOW SOME HEART! The loss was pretty much inevitable but we had one shot on goal……ONE!
We had 9 alleged injuries before last night. I ask again how many would be starters and would they make a real difference to the lethargy? I seriously doubt it.
No long ago the same people banging on about injuries were saying Cas and Erikson were not good enough and now they would be our saviour! Rashford would have made zero difference on current form. Martial neither. And I’m delusional? Chuckle!
Clearly Martinez is another level and a huge loss as is Manure and Shaw for Anfield.
Fact is, injuries aside, we are just not showing any heart or desire. The players are disinterested and the manager is not managing if he cannot instil that pride for the shirt.
Dont need misleading stats to work that out!
9.) 13 Dec 2023 08:18:23
We were poor long before the injuries kicked in, they haven’t helped but it’s not the excuse some want it to be.
10.) 13 Dec 2023 08:32:03
Call me old fashioned but there’s far too much stats nonsense in this game now. Selections and formations are driven by guys on laptops watching bar charts go up and down instead of actually watching football matches!
Stats tell us that Onana is one of the best keepers in the Premier league, reality is he couldn’t catch a cold!
Stats tell us that Bruno is our best player. And yes, he pops up and scores a few goals every now and then. But the reality is he couldn’t hit a cows arse with a banjo, the amount of times he gets the ball in a dangerous situation and then skies it or gives the ball away.
I dare say it’s the same stats boffins that are keeping Varane out of the side. Despite his failings he’s still our classiest centre half.
Listen, the injuries have killed us. And the reason for those injuries we could, and have, debated all day long. But the United that I grew up watching had a never say die attitude no matter who was on the pitch. SAF could have played an under 18’s side and they’d still have shown more than what we had out there last night.
I share the frustrations, because right now, the football is up there with some of the tripe that Mourinho was spewing out and ultimately got him sacked. I’m behind the manager, but like the OP, my patience is starting to dwindle a bit. How long can we keep watching this rubbish……. we didn’t even have a go last night…….
11.) 13 Dec 2023 08:49:21
Shappy posted a stat yesterday about our injuries it was unbelievable! Compare last season to this where we had a settled team for most and you could see huge progress! It has got of had a huge effect constantly chopping and changing and now relying ultimately on players not up to it!
For all his plaudits for example Mctom has shown in last two games why he’s not good enough, technically miles off it! But he’s all we have currently!
As regards effort I think last night you couldn’t fault effort, other games definitely!
They worked hard and for an hour I expect the game plan was exactly that! But from then on we needed to go and win it and quality wise miles off it! With zero to change off the bench!
But yet again anyone saying having cas erickson Mount malacia rashford Martinez to name a few doesn’t help us is not being realistic.
12.) 13 Dec 2023 09:10:54
I thought we matched them for large sections but make no mistake in the final third we just have nothing. No ideas or creativity, despite an awful amount invested and I count Mount in that, who I've yet to even see in a Utd shirt. Can't help being injured I guess. Mounting injuries at all the top clubs in an increasing demanding football season. The only solution moving forward is not expecting to just have 11 strong players. Managers bang on about using a squad, we'll they'll definitely need to be fully confident in at least 20 players before long with the 3-4th choice strikers for example still having a bit of clout about them.
13.) 13 Dec 2023 10:48:05
Liverpool had 7 injuries last year coming off a season where they won two titles and lost two including the league by a point where they had 90 something points and cl final and there was talk off a quad season.
They sat in 10th place last year around this time of the year having 7 injuries.
Talking about eth demeanor, stop psycho analyzing everything. Then recycle moaning about his purchases. 6 are out atm. Judge him when he has a semi healthy squad and not why we come up short with Hanibal and Pellistri as options to change the game. good luck with that and no other manager would get a tune out these options.
However if you decide to ignore injuries, takeover saga, suspensions, lack of funds, FFP and players related issues for the wrong reasons and want to hang it all on the manager, be my guest.
Blessing to miss Thursday night football, although I suspect there will be financial complications that comes with it, need to get to the break around top 5 and get players back.
No idea how we will line up in the pl given the injuries and if we will even have 4 fit defenders across the back 4 on current rate of injuries.
14.) 13 Dec 2023 11:39:05
Absolutely sh*t!
Sick of the lot of them.
15 Dec 2025 10:58:21
However in defence of Shappy, he is fully entitled to his opinion and can express it in any way he likes. We are not forced to read his posts.
I actually respect his opinion and he does have some good things to say. Cops a lot of grief from us lot, sometimes unfounded.
15 Dec 2025 08:16:52
Yep agreed. Occasionally some good points but there are only so many ways you can say the same thing.
As soon as it gets to two paragraphs I am the same as Peter Griffin.
03 Dec 2025 06:25:47
Edit. However some of it was in a place that cannot be mentioned and I was unable to travel.
03 Dec 2025 03:47:31
Difficult one Ken. Whilst in principal I agree, I was a season ticket holder for 30 years. For 12 years of that I was in the armed forces. Whilst based in UK I was there every week. But for 5 years I was based overseas. Some of that was in Europe so made efforts to get back every now and then. However some of it was in I was unable to travel so “sold” my tickets out of the folder at the Trafford Arms.
That gave me some return on my season ticket and meant that I could retain it throughout that period. I gave it up in 2005 after living in Oz as it was clear I would not be returning permanently. I am now happy that some do sell their tickets and know I can go to the Trafford Arms and get a ticket if required.
27 Nov 2025 23:41:59
What deflection?
Did the ball go in the net?
What was the final score?
The only true stat that counts. The rest is just subjective.
26 Jan 2026 00:18:48
That’s a cracker Jimbob.
We may have beaten a weakened City but I very much doubt the Amorim team selection and/or formation would beat Arsenal.
24 Jan 2026 21:45:44
This rebuild takes time said nobody in the last 13 years.
Record is broken.
20 Jan 2026 19:57:35
Not sure you can categorise Scholes and Butt as leeches. Glazers yes, but they are just voicing an opinion not leeching off the club.
13 Jan 2026 22:16:34
Okay, here we go.
Another reset, another three year plan etc. etc etc.
Time to get my hopes back up, which in fairness are starting from a higher place this time round. C’mon Michael, do us proud pal.
Please please please United don’t cock it up again. I’m running out of energy at my old age to keep fighting off the opposition fans that are quite rightly on my back constantly.
13 Jan 2026 19:32:13
Second best England manager is no big accolade.