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14 Jul 2022 11:03:10
Hi Ed002, if you have a moment please? Are you aware of Utd seriously trying to buy any midfielders other than Erikson and FDJ?

By that I mean have they made offers or are they in negotiations to bring in alternative players?

Also, do you know why the Erikson deal hasn't been completed? I understand it's been agreed in principle subject to a medical. What are they waiting for?

Thanks in advance.

MancMan

{Ed002's Note - DvdB has also returned. They have other options they will move on to if needs be. Players like Garner will be looked at in pre-season. There is nothing holding up Eriksen.}


1.) 14 Jul 2022 12:18:22
Thanks for the reply Ed002.

There are 8 weeks left in the transfer window so still plenty of time for Utd to sign alternative midfielders.

Eriksen puzzles me though. Why agree a contract then not complete the deal? Is Eriksen waiting to see who else Utd buy? Does Eriksen want to avoid going on the pre season tour? Is Eriksen coming dependent on Ronaldo leaving? Is Eriksen waiting for instructions from his home planet?

{Ed002's Note - It is all but done.}


2.) 14 Jul 2022 13:19:07
I would hope they are taking their time with the medical side, making sure he is safe to play.
I admit that after last year I'm paranoid about him playing, nobody wants to see a repeat of what happened.


3.) 14 Jul 2022 15:27:40
Ed002, I am interested to hear your opinion on DVB. Do you think ETH wil be able to fit him into this United setup and get the best from him or is he simply not good enough at this level?

Personally, I feel like he is a very good player who has not had a decent run in the side but any time I have seen him play, he is marked improvement on Fred or McT.

{Ed002's Note - He played well at Ajax and will be part of the squad.}


 

 

20 Jan 2021 09:37:43
Hi Ed002, hope you're good.

Thanks for the Lingard update. Let's hope at least one of the 6 clubs you mentioned make him an offer. I'd despair if Utd gave him a new contract.

Any news on Jones, Rojo and Romero?

MancMan

{Ed002's Note - Sergio Romero (G) out of contract with an offer from Inter Miami on the table - may look to stay in England but would not be a starter. Valencia have spoken with his agent about a pre-contract. Not keen on a return to Argentina just yet.
Phil Jones (CB) an option for Burnley if James Tarkowski leaves. Else would likely need to drop down to the Championship to find a club where he would start.
Marcos Rojo (LWB/CB) not wanted and another mess caused by the amateurs at Old Trafford – Fiorentina were interested at the start of 2020 but MU blocked the move and he ended up on loan at Estudiantes. They wanted to keep him on loan for the last year of his contract - or could have taken him for perhaps €5M spread over the season and the player wished to stay there. Another mistake by the amateurs. He is another player for which there are limitations where he could move to. Manchester United are of course not assisting and after pricing him out of a move to Estudiantes, who really only wanted another loan in any case - that would have given Manchester United a loan fee as his contract runs down. So they have been stuck with another player that has been offered around. Estudiantes remain interested but Boca Juniors are pushing to have Manchester United release him this month rather than in the summer. Cruz Azul have said they were looking at him as a CB option after being offered the player. Penerol were also offered the player and I suspect others were as well.


1.) 20 Jan 2021 11:26:58
Thanks Ed002, much appreciated.


2.) 20 Jan 2021 14:58:34
Hey ed thanks for the details and the f-wittery that goes on at Utd doesn't surprise me.

Any news on Youth loans?
Pellistri has been mentioned.

{Ed002's Note - Teden Mengi (CB) A January loan is possible. QPR have spoken with Manchester United. Pellestri may get a loan. Diallo will stay with U23s for now.}


3.) 20 Jan 2021 19:16:34
Surprised that romero couldn't be a starter for a Premier league club. I think he's done well for us and clubs could do a lot worse.


4.) 21 Jan 2021 12:27:21
RedD. He'd a lot better than Pickford, Pope and a few others. I'm also surprised there's not more interest in him.


 

 

23 Sep 2020 15:41:13
Ed002, if you don't mind. Do you have insight into the possibility of some of the surplus players leaving the club.

Specifically, Rojo, Jones, Lingard, Dalot, Romero, Grant, Perreria.

Is it that nobody wants to buy them or don't they want to leave? Is the problem their salaries because other clubs won't pay them that much or they won't take a pay cut to secure a move?

The last question might be more difficult to answer, but do you think that they think they might get another chance to play for Utd or is it that they are happy to receive their wages just for turning up to training?

MancMan

{Ed002's Note - All of this has been answered. Estudiantes want Rojo but are not going to pay the asking price. Phil Jones will not be going anywhere. Lingard will likely look to run down his contract rather than move which is not in his best interests. Dalot is being priced out of a moved or offered as a part exchange. Romero could leave for Valencia in the coming days - very unhappy with the club. No idea about Grant. Pereira was priced out of a move.}


1.) 23 Sep 2020 21:31:51
It somehow gets more farcical by the day. I understand it's a business and the club will want to make money where possible but surely there's one person with some common sense who sees we should cut our losses with some of these players?


2.) 23 Sep 2020 21:44:01
Just when you think it can't get worse. if this doesn't make the club realise they need a DoF, i don't know what will.
We will be holding onto players after haggling over a few mil and paying that and more in wages over the course of the year. Worse, it doesn't free up squad space for new recruits. P**s poor planning.


3.) 23 Sep 2020 21:54:42
Thanks Ed002, your response is much appreciated.

I know the flavour of the month is slag off the club but seems they're damned if they won't accept what they deem to be unacceptably low offers and damned because they won't move on surplus wages.

I think the real problem is wages. Clubs will only offer low fees because of how much the wages make the total cost of taking on the player. In this respect the club has made a rod for its own back.


4.) 23 Sep 2020 23:41:36
Surplus players, not wages.


5.) 24 Sep 2020 08:04:00
A DOF won’t make any difference if they report up the financial route to Woodward, it would still be a financial decision rather than a more balanced one if they report to the board. That way financial is a consideration but not the only one

I would be guessing but trying to use player exchange says they want to retain cash, possibly for a separate bigger deal or just to protect dividends.


6.) 24 Sep 2020 09:41:38
Who in their right mind would price Pereira out of a move? Oh yeah, we're not run by people in their right minds.


7.) 26 Sep 2020 23:20:29
I feel sorry for Romero, the club have treated him like crap and hope he gets the move he wants. I like the guy and he has never really let the team down when he has been called upon.


 

 

18 Sep 2020 20:19:11
Question for Ed002. How can utd get rid of Jones, lingard, rojo and pereira?

MancMan

{Ed002's Note - Manchester Evening News, "Donkeys For Sale: 0161 868 8000"}


1.) 18 Sep 2020 22:06:56
Hahahaha 😂😂😂.


2.) 18 Sep 2020 22:18:09
Ed002, you need to occupy the stage at the Albert Hall on comedy night.


3.) 18 Sep 2020 22:30:09
LOL Ed.


4.) 18 Sep 2020 22:31:35
Lol. Has anyone tried dialling this number? Is it really the Men? I'm not sure I dare.

Thanks Ed002, can I interest you in a donkey?


5.) 18 Sep 2020 23:09:41
That's cruel.

Some poor farmer or someone might actually need a donkey, call that number and get stuck with Phil Jones.

Sure he can probably haul a load, but he'll spend all harvest injured, and his gurning will traumatize the other animals.


6.) 18 Sep 2020 23:24:32
Lollll.


7.) 19 Sep 2020 08:59:42
Coming into panto season.


8.) 18 Sep 2020 23:03:17
🤣🤣🤣 brilliant ed002.


9.) 19 Sep 2020 13:45:11
Don't know about those other players but signing Jones would mean investing in a personal medical room to keep him company throughout his contract as well as paying his wages. Don't think anyone would be as gracious as Man United to do that.


 

 

19 Jul 2017 17:55:44
I've just read that there's more fantasy football going on at City with the signing of Danilo.

I find it very curious that there was no suggestion we were in for him since in my opinion we need another right back and he is willing to come to Manchester. Plus he was only £26 million!

It could be just that he preferred City or having worked once with our beam of sunshine manager decided never again.

The other possibilities are we have an alternative coming in or simply that Mourinho is happy with the players we have for that position. I noticed Valencia played at right back against Salt Lake and I think TFM got some time there as well. I didn't watch the Galaxy game. Has anyone else played at right back pre-season? Do you think Mourinho is happy to go into the season with those two plus Darmian?

MancMan

1.) 19 Jul 2017 18:19:44
The fact he has slumped at Real and can't defend might be a reason.


2.) 19 Jul 2017 18:28:38
We can't sign everyone mate. Our targets were Semedo, Fabinho and Aurier. With Danilo plying his trade in Porto for a few years before moving to Madrid, I'm sure Jose knows enough about him and whether he'd suit us, evidently not. It's about getting players in that will suit our system and compliment our other players.


3.) 19 Jul 2017 18:42:23
When dids he work with jose mancman?


4.) 19 Jul 2017 18:53:06
Since the De Gea debarcle last season I can, t see Real Madrid selling us any ground staff never mind any players.
I know we have numerous targets, Perisic, Matic, Fabinho . Jose wanted them on the U. S tour, But you can't make clubs sell their players because we are interested in them.
Still feel a lot of players are not that keen on playing for Jose, It's only because we pay over the odds for players and agent fees, that we get them to sign.
City and pep put in offers for players, and get them.
Long time to go in the market I know, But we don't want to be signing players 24 hrs before season starts, Remember the Fellani deal anyone?


5.) 19 Jul 2017 18:59:26
Players want to play for Mourinho but we are not ready to meet he asking price.


6.) 19 Jul 2017 20:27:28
The United money men have their limits and rightly stick to it. Pep is playing a real life version of Football Manager at the moment and is yet to address the left back position and centre half.


7.) 19 Jul 2017 20:34:14
More to the point why buy a 2nd rb who can't defend for 26 mill after shelling out 55 mill for another rb who can't defend. What about their much vaunted academy if they wanted a bench sitter.


8.) 20 Jul 2017 09:22:13
The best right back to come through their academy is now first choice at Spurs and was sold for £3.5 million.


9.) 20 Jul 2017 13:25:35
Ken, you're right. After I posted I realised I hadn't checked whether his time at Real had co-incided with Mourinho's.

Nonetheless, because none of our wide players are natural wingers, I do think we need overlapping attacking fullbacks and both Walker and Danilo would fit the bill.

If we bring in a true defensive midfielder then I'm not so bothered about how well our fullbacks can defend, as long as they are good going forward.


 

 

 

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08 Aug 2022 11:47:40
After yesterday I am now starting to think that Utd are more a mid table team at best rather than top four or top six.

Traditionally they have spent lots of money on players but I don't think those levels of funds are available anymore.

Utd need to start thinking like a mid table team and recruit accordingly. They need to stop fantasising about players like FdJ for mega money because the whole squad needs replacing and Utd can't afford to pay top dollar for every new player. Plus as they are finding with FdJ, these top level players don't want to come to Utd and why would they? FdJ won't move to Wolves or Villa so why on earth do Utd think he wants to join them?

Utd now need to get creative and start thinking like clubs such as Brighton and Southampton for their recruitment. Even Newcastle with new cash have been very astute with their additions so far in this window.

If Utd are going to get to the top again it's going to be a long climb. The first step is to improve on what there is. The perfect is the enemy of the good enough and unfortunately the pursuit of FDJ is really getting in the way of signing two new midfielders who are good enough to massively improve Utd's midfield straightaway. They might not be the players required to compete at the very top level but I believe Utd can bring in some players who will do an excellent job for a few seasons. The same is true all over the pitch.

Having said this, Utd have to be smart as well as creative which means more players like Erikson rather than Arnautovic. These gems are out there but finding and acquiring them requires the right structures for scouting and then negotiating the purchase. More importantly it requires a more humble and realistic attitude as to where the club is at and what it needs right now.

If Utd don't make any real changes before the end of the transfer window then I estimate they will finish somewhere between 10th and 13th because there are at least 10 better teams/ squads in the division.

MancMan

1.) 08 Aug 2022 12:13:04
We got beat by a team that lost their 2 best players so effectively fielded a weaker team than the one that beat us 4-0. there are more than 10 team better than us.

If this is it for incomings, and we now rely on players no one else wants, a top half finish looks like a pipe dream.


2.) 08 Aug 2022 12:40:31
Are funds limited?

We've spent best part of 70m on Martinez and Malacia. Given Eriksen a well paid contract.

We have an offer of £64-72m accepted by Barcelona for Frankie De Jong, if that deal goes through we will have spent over 140m.

While we reportedly offered 60m for Antony from Ajax which was rejected, but again if that deal was accepted that could have potentially taken our summer spending to around 200m mark.

I think the money is there to spend on the right players, but the club are trying to learn from past mistakes and refuse to over pay for the wrong players/ our 3rd,4th or 5th choice.


3.) 08 Aug 2022 13:10:28
I think the board has belatedly recognized the depths to which we have sunk under Woodward's misguided leadership and are now in the process of dealing with that reality, which is to say the dilution of the club's financial strength. We have very little value in the squad itself, an elevated debt, no champions league football, and one 37 year old marquee clickbait player who no one else wants. If things don't improve the most lucrative sponsorship deals will go elsewhere as the best players and managers have already done.

The signs have been there since before SAF retired. The spat with Rooney when he put in a transfer request when he realized the club's lack of ambition in the transfer market. the "no value" excuse. He was bribed out of moving. The need to overpay to get any top players to join us, and then the surprise when these reluctant mercenaries failed to impress. And why did they jump at the chance of hiring OGS? Because the job was regarded as toxic and no top manager wanted it. His brief period of success was jumped upon despite having said he was just a caretaker.

So, how as businessmen do they move forward? Basically what they have done: hire a manager who can maximize potential and instill a system and discipline while cutting the fat out of the payroll, intending to restore profitability at mid table level. The owners have taken a lot of hits recently. C.V. No ECL. And, ironically - something we all most likely opposed - the failure to move the European Super League forward. It would have provided United with guaranteed participation at the top table and the income that comes with it.

Yesterday's performance was dire, particularly the first half capitulation. But there were a couple of signs of potential. At least Rashford got into scoring position a couple of times. Eriksen provided some accuracy and threat. Despite the size differentials - Malacia marking Dunk was comical - we did not concede against any set pieces. We're not going to be champions. Top 4 looks beyond us. We're not splashing out on top players who don't want to come to us anyway. There will be no ground improvements. The best we can hope for is a setting of the table for the future. or a white knight.


4.) 08 Aug 2022 13:54:55
weve spent about 50 million net shappy. you expect not to spend much if you have just won the title but we finished on our lowest ever total, our worst ever season in prem history

saved over a million a week on wages.

more sales will most likely happen and if Ronaldo goes that's another massive chunk of money saved

but never mind ay we have had bids rejected for players knowing the fee was well below there asking price

getting a fee accepted for a player that doesn't want to join, its all very clever by the powers at be, they can swing the "we tried to sign players" quote.


5.) 08 Aug 2022 14:05:21
The proof is in the pudding of what we’ve actually spent. We’ve invested in Martinez and Malacia which has been offset slightly by sales. That’s it.

Judging by the calibre of player we are looking at, I insist that there are limited funds available. The club has been bled dry by the Glazers.

Please buy these idiots out Mr Ratcliffe.


6.) 08 Aug 2022 14:52:48
Shappy, of course funds are limited. Why do think Utd have tried to sign a striker for £10 million and not £50 million.

Utd need 20 new players. They can't spend £50 million on each one.

Time to get creative and unearth some bargains.


7.) 08 Aug 2022 18:06:34
Funds are only limited because we have blown so much on trash. United will earn big piles more money though and sadly I am not confident we don't blow that too.

United aren't a Mid Table club at all. They are a massive club being run extremely badly thus ending up mid table in terms of results.

United will keep wasting huge amounts of money, more than teams above them until they luck upon a good DoF and Manager combination at which point they might begin to sort things out.

United are right where we deserve to be at the moment but it's not lack of funds that put us there, it's spending those funds on dross.


8.) 08 Aug 2022 18:11:54
I also meant to add that we have have become extremely unattractive to players due to the aforementioned incompetence.


 

 

19 Jul 2022 16:23:18
Whats' you're views on booing players? I'm all for it for lazy so and sos like Pogba because they need to be told.

I'm dead against it with players such as Fellaini and Maguire who try hard but aren't good enough.

MancMan

1.) 19 Jul 2022 17:06:45
You shouldn't boo any player for your own team ever you can dislike them not like their performance but were called supporters for a reason.


2.) 19 Jul 2022 17:15:35
Why would you support someone who doesn’t want to put the effort in, who can’t be arsed and isn’t giving everything?


3.) 19 Jul 2022 18:29:11
I think it's pretty shocking to be honest. Don't get it at all. If he's done something out of order and is in the spotlight (Zouma, for example) I could completely get it. But Utd fans booing one of their own because they don't deem him good enough, which seems to be the only explanation? He was overpriced, and isn't good enough to be our captain, but the manager seems happy enough and he's the best judge right now.


4.) 19 Jul 2022 18:35:42
I personally wouldn't do it, but I have no problem with others doing it. Each to their own.


5.) 19 Jul 2022 18:40:27
Because you support the club, not a player. You support your team have your opinion but we are supportors we support and encourage our team its that damn simple.

Biggest reason we have such lazy selfish players now is because we have "fans" of players, who only see the good the highlight reels, the off field dramatics, meaning sponsors aren't after the best player just the biggest star.

Rather than having supporters of teams who support their team no matter what and encourage their players to do better for the team and play better for the team.


6.) 19 Jul 2022 19:26:06
Doesn't bother me either way to be honest. You only need to look in here to see how diverse fan opinions are.


7.) 19 Jul 2022 19:44:55
It's definitely not ok to boo our own players. They are human beings. Some of them may be going through personal difficulties. We're fans. We should support them, and that includes if they are playing terribly. In fact I would say that it is exactly when they are playing terribly that it matters the most. I have a big problem with people doing it. By all means get on here and air it out. That's what forums are great for. But to do it in person is never ok.


8.) 19 Jul 2022 20:41:58
Don if people didn't boo and stand up for the club over transient employees like pogba or ole who dragged standards and expectations well below minimum requirement we would still be having to put up with it.
It's OK to boo people if they don't represent us as fans and it's OK to boo them if they are falling below our beliefs and expectations on how employees should represent the club.
I'm not a fan of any transient employee of the club in a fan of the club.
Players who earn my respect as a fan will get all the support they earn. I agree that this is a better place to vent emotional frustrations but a manager like ole was not boo'd early enough and ended up taking the club for millions and as fans nobody bats an eye when him and his coaching team cost more than the glazers dividend.


9.) 19 Jul 2022 21:36:26
Fans in the ground shouldn’t boo their own, there were times in the Stretford End last season where it was cringe worthy. We are there to support and create an atmosphere that’s an advantage for US, not the opposition.

In relation to booing players who don’t try etc etc…. we shouldn’t have to boo if the management were doing their jobs properly and in full control of the club. Hopefully we’ve got that right now.


10.) 20 Jul 2022 07:17:09
Didn't see the game but read he for booed every touch for first half hour. It seems as if EtH is going to be playing Harry this year though, so we need the best version of HM there is.

I wouldn't be booing him and certainly wouldn't be getting on one of our players back like that from kick off. I don't think it helps the team in any way to get a result which at every game is actually what I want.


11.) 20 Jul 2022 07:38:42
Ken you're one of the most level headed lads here so I'm genuinely surprised you take that viewpoint. In any walk of life people will sometimes not do as well as others want, but showing support can change things. It is simply ludicrous to suggest that the sound of boos is the metric by which a club should judge satisfaction with performance.


12.) 20 Jul 2022 17:28:28
Thanks Don.
I'm afraid that we differ slightly on this one but only slightly.
I believe that a player or anybody as you say when going through a tough time needs to be shown empathy and support but that caveat to that is they must be deserving of our respect and empathy and support.
A player, and we have had many over the last 10 years that is giving his all and is not up to standard then I would not be in favour of him being ridiculed in any way.
But if a player is a cheat and then cheats again and then again. If a player publicly shames the club and allows his agent (rip) to do so without a word in the clubs defence. Then the decision makers should be made aware and the player should be made aware that he does not represent us as fans and booing like it or not is a way of fans telling the club and player you've lost us and our respect.


 

 

09 May 2022 12:59:50
genuine question; what happens to Pogba if no one wants to sign him?

Does he keep lowering his wage demands and widening the circle of clubs he might sign for until someone bites?

Could he potentially end up at Newcastle on £50k a week if that's the best offer he's going to get?

MancMan

1.) 09 May 2022 13:13:43
Pretty much yeah. But seeing as there is a 450k a week deal from United still on the table I doubt he'll need to lower his demands that much.

{Ed014's Note - he’ll sign don’t worry Shappy ?


2.) 09 May 2022 13:23:22
Ornstein reporting that he has options from Madrid, PSG and Juve and has turned down city reportedly.

Certainly won't be with us next season but will probably be playing at a higher standard in Europe than we will be.


3.) 09 May 2022 13:25:30
I really want to believe the club is changing for the better and letting Pogba go is part of that, as is seeing some of the people upstairs leaving and Ten Hag coming in.

However, I can't let go of the feeling that this summer we're going to end up with Pogba signing a new deal, Martial, Donny and Pereira coming back and the club line on them is that they are "like new signings" and our main big signing ends up being our 8th choice defensive midfielder.


4.) 09 May 2022 13:39:55
It will be interesting to see where he ends up, and what sort of price he can extract. Quite apart from not lighting up the field with his play, his self-promotion and injury record make him a potentially expensive liability wherever he goes. His success as part of very good Juventus and French teams masked his deficiencies while reinforcing his generally languorous approach to the game.


5.) 09 May 2022 14:18:51
just let him go, if he hasn't got the desire and ambition to play in the Europa conference league then we don't want him.


6.) 09 May 2022 14:18:51
just let him go, if he hasn't got the desire and ambition to play in the Europa conference league then we don't want him.


7.) 09 May 2022 15:01:22
Utd have made him a £450k a week offer? That's insane! I think if Pogba re-signs for Utd then the Ten Hag project is dead before it's even begun; all credibility will be lost out of the starting gate.

DSG, the idea of City making an offer just isn't credible which makes me wonder about the validity of the claim he has received offers from the other clubs.

I'd love to see him struggling to find a club.


8.) 09 May 2022 15:48:18
Why would you love to see him struggle to see him find a new club? Very odd behaviour, don't see why fans are making it personal with pogba.

The reality is Pogbas future is none of our concern, he's seen out his contract and will leave.

The club has 99 problems to sort out this summer with a new manager and Pogba isn't one of them which is at least something positive for Ten Hag.


9.) 09 May 2022 16:01:43
Break that table which has offer and burn it.


10.) 09 May 2022 16:50:34
Don’t think anyone will offer more than allegedly what we have offered. Probably would still offer the club a lot on twitter etc despite not much on the pitch. Hopefully it will be au revoir pogba but with these owners, who knows.


11.) 09 May 2022 16:53:40
Club trying to save face and make it out Pogba wants to leave when he leave, Pogba will say something about the fans driving him out.

Good thing he not going City because he get found out as the most overrated player in the world, think he go and joint that Harlem Globetrotters team in France with the other clowns like Neymar and company.


12.) 09 May 2022 16:59:03
Sadly I can believe we have offered him 450k a week. The question I have is how? How can anyone think that he is worth that, it just beggars belief.

What do our staff see that I can't over the last 5 years.


13.) 09 May 2022 19:30:29
He won't be short of offers and will earn a huge amount more than if he stays with us which neither party want.
Goodbye good riddance. I expect him to do well wherever he goes.


14.) 09 May 2022 19:54:27
He’s going guys. Wish him well whatever he chooses to do - just not good enough for a club liking to be at the top of the Premier league or Utd. Plain and simple.

E wet one talks about how good he was in Italy. The standard of that league is way below ours, and he was surrounded by worries…. don’t get me started on international football….


15.) 09 May 2022 20:21:36
Doesn't hurt having Kante around on the international stage who can cover for him.


16.) 10 May 2022 09:43:50
I’m sure we will see clips of him doing well wherever he goes but I hope I never have to watch 90 minutes of that clown strolling round a pitch ever again.


17.) 10 May 2022 10:43:19
Do you hate him gds2?


18.) 10 May 2022 12:13:14
DSG, I'd love to see him struggling because he represents many of the things I despise in football which can be pretty much summed up as style over substance.

He has taken the michael out of Utd fans for years with his lazy phoned in performances and I believe he and his stinky attitude are a large part of why this whole Utd squad is so rotten.

He might be a nice guy, model professional blah blah blah but where it really counts he has been useless. The idea that he is one of the leagues highest earners is insulting and it's only this way because he looks like he should be good at football even though he isn't.

Pogba; ugh.


19.) 10 May 2022 12:23:29
Who cares what happens to him as long as he's out of our club for next season.


20.) 10 May 2022 12:27:42
Ahhh i see, so you hate him for a load of reasons that you have no knowledge of and are projecting that he has done based on beliefs.

Makes sense lol.


21.) 10 May 2022 13:39:49
No DSG, I don't hate Pogba but I really don't like what he represents.

As for 'no knowledge', I've watched him ponce about on the football pitch like the 'great I am' but to little effect for the last 6 years earning massive wages paid for by the fans.

What else do I need to know to form a valid opinion on this?

Dont you see that Pogba is a massive part of the problem? Doesn't it pig you off as well that he has been such a waste of a shirt?


22.) 10 May 2022 13:41:33
sim01975, I think for the good of the game some of these big time charlies need to be seen to fall flat in their derriers, rather than rewarded for being crap and not trying.


23.) 10 May 2022 14:13:45
I expect pogba to go back to Juventus personally and will not really miss him. I kinda gave up on pogba a couple of seasons ago after getting fed up watching him not track runners and doing his jog walk whilst opposition midfielders ran past him overloading on our defence. I always think to be a team you have to give everything for your teammates and thought he disrespected others by not applying effort (I would be appalled if I was a team colleague of his) . Maybe I am old school but giving your all should be a given. Skill on its own does not win you games and you have to equal or better the effort of the other team, without this you will struggle regardless of ability. It's not just pogba though a fair few of our players appear to share this attitude like pogba.


24.) 10 May 2022 15:20:08
Il eat my words if i'm wrongg but at the right team that he's happy at i think he will be the player that we hoped for but didn't get.


25.) 10 May 2022 18:03:18
I think the problem is Pogba isn't the player we all hoped we were getting anyway and certainly wasn't the player we needed.


26.) 10 May 2022 18:14:59
I wouldn’t say I hate him, don’t really hate anyone in football, I don’t know the guy, I hate the way he’s played for us and the circus around him though and I hate the nonsense in every international break. I’ve never really thought he was a great footballer and I’m glad to see the back of him.


27.) 10 May 2022 19:51:56
I find it highly unlikely he hasn't known exactly where he's going for some time personally. All this stuff all managers and players come out with about concentrating on the next game and nothing else matters. yeah right. They're on Indeed.com as soon as they get home like the rest of us!


 

 

10 Apr 2022 00:08:32
Imagine spending, £1 billion + on your product and its worse rhan ever.

Embarrassing or what?

MancMan

1.) 10 Apr 2022 11:15:26
Now imagine abusing the same people who splashed £1 Billion because you don’t have an excuse ?.


2.) 11 Apr 2022 06:36:58
Ron, they splashed it without any plan.
Players like Ronaldo, Pogba were signed more for the commercial side.

The fans have been drained with how the club is run.
Player power is given a say than the manager.


 

 

17 Mar 2022 22:43:48
If Rashford leaves, where do we think are likely destinations? Apparently he is on £200k a week so unless he takes a massive paycut tne only club i can see being able to affotd him and stupid enough to pay him that much is the genocidal slavers in the North East.

MancMan

1.) 17 Mar 2022 23:29:36
I don't want him to leave. I want a manager who actually does the job properly ie motivates and gets Rashford (and others) back to playing to the level we know he is capable of.


2.) 18 Mar 2022 06:21:55
Things have to be bi-directional.
The coaches should identify his weakness and work on them.
Rashford should buckle up, reflect on himself and put the hard yards.


3.) 18 Mar 2022 07:04:56
Barcelona, PSG, Real Madrid and Bayern Munich have all shown an interest in signing him in the past. I also wouldn't be surprised to see Chelsea or City look at the possibility of signing him if he was to become available.

It seems it's only Manchester United fans who think Rashford is horserubbish and would struggle to get into Sunderland's reserves.

He's had a tough couple of years both on and off the pitch. During his key development years he has had four different managers and will likely have a 5th by next season. He has been over played at times, played while injured and with painkilling injections. In the past 12 months he has suffered a final loss with United (Europa League) lost the European cup final with England, and split up with his long term girlfriend of 6 years. He has been booed by both England and Manchester United fans and racially abused both online and in person.

All he's ever tried to do is play well for the club he has supported since he was a boy, play well for his country, and help feed starving kids and those less fortunate.

Like I said he has played through the pain barrier for our club, played while injured and sacrificed for the club. Yes he's well paid for it, but so are his colleagues many of whom have cried off and sulked when things haven't gone their way.

Apparently he was rubbish last season (while injured for a large part of it) when he scored 19 goals and got 9 assists (despite the fact that he never passes and only shoots) .

If an injured out of form Rashford can contribute 28 goals a season to a side that was struggling then just imagine what he could do if not injured and in top form? 40, 50 goal involvements a season possibly.

Rashford seems to be the latest former academy player who gets beaten by the fans for little to no reason. The only reason I can come up with is because they weren't a fancy big money signing that so many fans seem to hold in high regard. Unless a player is signed for a huge fee or from a top side then they are considered not good enough by the snobbish elitist amoungst our fan base. Who conveniently forget that the last two big money signings from teams considered as one of the best sides in European football were Di Maria for 65m from Real Madrid and Pogba for 89m from Juventus.

Whether people like to admit it or not Rashford has been one of our best players for the past 3-4 years. This year he has been well off the boil, probably for personal reasons. Let's cut him some lack and actually support a guy who has done more than any of us to support his community.


4.) 18 Mar 2022 07:43:35
Salford7,

Rashford and Co need to stop being a squad of pansies and man up. His performances have been shocking as have most of the team. If they are throwing their toys out of the pram because RR has got them working harder etc and they refuse to buy into his methods, then it shows how much player power is influential and effecting the club.

I'm fed up with the cry babies. The old, woah is me BS. It isn't their fault blah blah blah. It shows just how weak their mentalitie is as a squad. Hopefully quite a few get a reality check this summer and are jettisoned.

Utd are a team full of Princesses.


5.) 18 Mar 2022 09:10:26
rashford will not be leaving, it will most likely be a ploy for him to get a new bumper contract, as usual by players in this club.


6.) 18 Mar 2022 09:14:43
Ah poor Marcus eh Shappy? You're only as good as your last game and this season he has been pants. This is nothing to do with him not being Rashfordino.

I agree that the abuse he has received is out of order but then again when you're out of form you need to put in the hard yards to try and make up for it and play yourself into form. Rashford hasn't been doing that (Wednesday night being the latest example) and so he invites the criticism he is receiving. The supporters will forgive out of form players if they can see they are giving their all. What they won't abide is laziness and crapness.

Also, Rashford has been the harbinger of his own downfall. He didn't have to play through injuries and common sense said he shouldn't have even if the manager wanted him to. It's a long career and players should be smart enough to manage their condition into the long term.

And before you start saying I'm contradicting myself with saying not enough effort then should have rested; they are two very different things.

Anyway, back to the original question; Barcelona have no money and the idea of him getting in the first team at Madrid, PSG or Bayern? No chance of that which puts him in the same position he is in a Utd and why he is bitching in the first place.

Sorry Marcus but if you want out for first team football then the House of Saud beckons; hardly a natural home for such a principled young man.


7.) 18 Mar 2022 09:25:12
Rashford should look for a loan move to a club like Dortmund. Get away from England, the English Media, go to a club renowned for developing footballers and then come back a fresh, new player. He's still young enough to do this.

Sadly, the only person who can get him out of this slump is himself, he has to play himself back into form. But to do this he needs to play, to play he needs to run and work when on the pitch. He needs to get the ball and knock it past the defender and go past them, and keep doing this and when he loses possession work like a a trojan to get back and attempt to win it.


8.) 18 Mar 2022 09:36:55
Nice idea Ports but one has to run around a bit at Dortmund.


9.) 18 Mar 2022 09:51:59
Barca have just done a huge deal with Spotify for naming rights to their stadium. They have quietly been going about signing players including many on free transfers and with a decent manager in place look likely to make a decent attempt at winning trophies next year. Rashford would do well in their team.

He has been overplayed and he should have had a strong manager to insist rather (this is speculation) than one like Ole who probably was desperate to play him with Martial and Greenwood not firing.

Yes Rashford should be seen to be making real efforts to work hard for the team but he is a decent person with a good moral compass. A Manchester lad and plenty of ability who has come through our youth system and shone on the biggest stages before and can do again. He needs support not being abused. Look at De Gea and how his form has turned round.

Ultimately so much depends on having the right manager in place.


10.) 18 Mar 2022 10:12:57
MancMan, " You're only as good as your last game" is a load of bolloxology.

Are you saying you hold all former Manchester United greats in such high esteem based on their last performance for the club?

Of course not, you're reputation isn't based on one thing you've done, or even the last thing you did. It's based on everything you've done ever.

I believe that many United fans hold an odd sort of animosity toward our academy lads. We've all heard and read comments where people say things like "he'd never have got a chance to play for United if he hadn't come through the academy".

It's like fans are annoyed at our academy players for taking up a space in the team and stopping the club from buying an expensive shiny new toy. So they knock them at every opportunity and judge them far more harshly then they do players who have signed for big fees.

Clearly you're one of the lucky individuals who has never suffered from mental sickness or fatigue. If you had you'd appreciate how hard doing even the simple things are, while without knowing you personally I'd imagine you are under far less pressure and scrutiny than Rashford.

As for whether he should or shouldn't play through the pain barrier or when injured. I think it's an easy thing to say in hindsight. You are also assuming that he is making a decision without pressure and without medical advice.

Often due to the pressure to get your best players on the pitch medical staff are asked "can he play" rather than "should he play". The answers to which are often very different.

Let's not pretend that our medical staff get everything right, they gave their blessing to Hargreaves playing an entire season with pain killing injections when he first joined which probably in hindsight ended his career. All due to the pressure of not wanting to look foolish for signing an injured player who can't help the team that season.

I'd imagine it's very difficult to argue with a medical professional over your physical condition.

Rashford clearly has a lot of affection and love for the club and is prepared to sacrifice himself to help the club. If you want to slate him for that then it says more about your attitude that his.

As for would he start at those clubs? Yes I think he would. I think a break over the summer and a fresh start at a new club would reinvigorate him and maybe get him back to his best form. Plus he'd be playing for clubs in a better form, and with better players meaning he'd have less pressure on him to pull something out of the bag. All players play better when surrounded by better players, that the essence of a team game. Plus leagues like La Liga, Bundesliga, Ligue 1 and Serie A are all considered less demanding than the EPL. Which would also likely see him post higher numbers.

I'm very confident that if Rashford moves, especially to a European top side then it won't be very long before United fans are bemoaning the decision to let him leave and will be saying it's further evidence for how poorly the club is being run.


11.) 18 Mar 2022 10:39:44
Shappy, the phrase means that just because he maybe used to be good doesn't mean he still is. Maybe playing through the injuries has permanently broken him and he will never recover. The CURRENT evidence is that he is knacked and he can't even run around enough to press or track back.

The medical staff can be asked whatever but if the player says he cannot play then that's that. Blimey, Cavani doesn't play if he has a bit of jetlag nevermind multiple injuries requiring operations like Rashford did.

As for Barca, they just got a whole new forward line for nothing. I have no idea what Rashford's transfer fee would be but I expect Utd would want a fair few quid. They may have come into some cash but a crocked Utd reject cannot be high on their list of places to spend it.

The same is true is for Bayern and Madrid. The idea of Rashford as a regular starter for either club is fanciful at best. PSG is a basketcase so who knows? They will need a replacement for Mbappe and maybe Messi will move on in the summer as well.

However, Marcus will face the same ethical question of whether he can face playing for a despotic regime of slavers?


12.) 18 Mar 2022 10:59:22
Shappy, just an add on having reread your post. Firstly, you make some big assumptions about my health and wellbeing. However, I am fine thanks for asking ;-)

Also, if you suggesting that Rashford is mentally knacked then that's just as bad in a football sense as being physically injured. Who wants to buy a player whose mechanism has gone?


13.) 18 Mar 2022 11:06:31
Rashford has been awful most of the season.
And the fact that you want a manager to motivate players is crazy, players should be self-motivated to play and run for the club.
We've stopped playing let's sit back and try to counter tactic and suddenly rashford has become bad.
Rashford is actually a player for West ham or Everton or newcastle, teams that are okay to defend most games and score by a counter.
If we can get a good offer for rashford, we should bid goodbye, as it's very likely he is going to score wherever he goes but he isn't cutting it here.
And apart from a penalty against PSG I've all but remembered the likes of bruno, rashford and martial fail to score time and again even missing guilt edged chances.
He will still command a decent fee and will be easier to move than martial. I don't think we will be able to offload martial who I feel would definitely perform better than the current rashford although it's martial so who knows?

I don't see the point of us holding to our huge squad when all they are good for is 5-6th place.

We should look to offload 10 players atleast (a few are already at loan), trim the squad up, promote a couple of youth and sign 3-4 players.

Personally I'll be happy to see Rangnick stick around for 1 more year, someone needs to do the cleanup and he's shown more than our managers that he could weed out players (barring the love for Maguire)

The club shows way too much emotional love to players rather than how they are performing.

Rashford is not Rooney, Rooney was 10x what rashford is or will be.
You would never come back from a game and complain Rooney didn't work hard. And Rooney was effective at any place you play him unlike rashford.


14.) 18 Mar 2022 11:36:07
MancMan, it's one thing to suggest that a 37 year old Ronaldo might not ever recover his peak form of his late twenties. Very much another to suggest that a 24 year old might not be able to recover his best form.

He still looks just as physically capable to me, he has lost any speed or strength. He just seems to be playing under a cloud, like he has the weight of the world on his shoulders and he is struggling to cope with that. In my opinion, from the outside looking in, he looks like he needs to sort his head out. If he can, and I see no reason for why he couldn't, then of course he can get back to top form. It just depends on whether the next manager is prepared to help him do so.

Also glad you're fine. It's just that you wrote like someone who doesn't understand the difficulty of dealing with mental health issues. Which if that is the case then I am very happy for you. I wouldn't want anyone to suffer as I have seen others suffer.

Rumours today that Barcelona are looking at Rashford again, and they would be able to raise funds to sign him, paying his wages would be a bigger issue. Yet they will move on a few high earners this summer so should be able to get around that. They are also looking for a big name signing for their forward line after losing Suarez and Messi in recent years.

Also rumours that Real Madrid might look to Rashford if Haaland goes elsewhere, giving them a front line of Mbappe, Rashford and Vinicius Junior.

Bayern are also in for Haaland and if he ends up elsewhere will likely look to other options as Lewandowski's long term replacement.

Trust me I think Rashford will have plenty of top level suitors if he was to leave.

Rohanarora, I think you're massively underestimating Rashford there. He might be in poor form currently but he is miles better than anything Everton or West Ham have had play for them in decades.

I agree that we have many players in our squad that need to go. However, for me there are at least 18 maybe 20 who should head out the door before Rashford.


15.) 18 Mar 2022 13:05:53
Rashford better than teves?
Rashford better than bowen currently?
Rashford better than Kevin sheedy?
More outrageous nonsense.
Where are these rumours you talk of shappy?
The clickbait you deride one day and quote in your favour the next.
Manchester United have never had a formal offer for rashford from anybody.
Sometimes you have to recognise when it's the end of the road for someone at a club.
I like radhford I'd like him to pick up his career and do well elsewhere. But I think his time at united is done.
To be honest any players that puts country before club should have been bombed out long before now.
But you supported that decision too.
Part of oles hidehi holiday camp brigade.
The lad has achieved little or nothing really as a united player and was treated like the 2nd coming of Pele. Outrageous contracts too young and his decision making off the pitch needs to be taken into consideration.
Too much time spent with jokers like lingard and not enough time spent working to fix his game.
I don't think he will be sold as I'm not sure any club of significance will come in for him.
Maybe head to west ham with jesse.


16.) 18 Mar 2022 14:02:40
Rashford will not be sold unless he asks to leave. My thoughts are that he has come up through the youth and will want to be a success and will hope that a new manager as well as some time away in the summer to refresh and refocus will help next year.
We have far too many areas to address without removing a good player when on it in an area that we will be short in next year (Greenwood, Lingard, Matrial all likely gone) .
I would have no problems if the club thought a break was the best thing for him to shut this season down, get him to work with the coaches and mind coaches and tell him to get ready for pre season.


17.) 18 Mar 2022 15:18:31
Frank lampard rio ferdinand gazza. rashford better than them shappy? Absolute plank.


18.) 18 Mar 2022 16:10:10
Ken, Rio Ferdinand left West Ham in 2000, 22 years ago or more than a decade ago, more than two in fact.

Lampard left West Ham in 2001, 21 years ago. Again more than two decades ago.

Gazza left in 2002, 20 years ago, again more than decades ago.

Tevez left in 2007, 15 years ago, and more than a decade ago. He also only scored 7 goals in a West Ham shirt, which is less than even Rashford's worst ever season for us so far.

Bowen is having a great season at West Ham, 8 goals an 9 assists. He just needs another 11 goal involvements this season to match Rashford's achievements last season.

I'm also pretty sure if you offered Bowen or Rashford to any of the top teams in European football they would all pretty much unanimously choose Rashford over Bowen.

Thanks for the little trip down memory lane, but you can't actually name a single player who has played for either West Ham or Everton on the past 10 years (ergo less than a decade) who is better than Rashford.

What Rohanarora said was frankly ridiculous, and only you would try and defend it. Maybe Rashford won't be good enough for a UCL winning team, but he is comfortably at a UCL level, so to suggest he should be playing for any side that cannot consistently play in the UCL is crazy.


19.) 18 Mar 2022 17:01:42
Read your post. Decades yous said. So I'm using your timeframe.
More nonsense give your head a wobble and read what you wrote DECADES. Here it is silly Billy miles better than anything Everton or West Ham have had play for them in decades.
More outrageous hyperbole that you can't even remember 5 mins later.
Problem with being an empty vessel is that all you make is noise.


20.) 18 Mar 2022 17:13:24
When you say decades shappy is that more than 2 decades 3 decades 4 decades?
How many decades were you referring to in you post.
Definitely more than 2 because given the plural it means more than 1 so you were talking more the 20 years which all the above apply to.
'Decades' is in excess of 20 years dummy and you also have no upper limit so the list would be endless.
Are you trying to say rashford is a better player than teves. Please try to explain that. I don't believe you have any credibility left on this site but I'd love you to try and argue that 1.


21.) 18 Mar 2022 17:17:44
Manchester United have not played constantly in the cl since rashford started you dope.


22.) 18 Mar 2022 18:46:16
You're right decades is plural, plural is 2 or more.

Ergo anyone who left 20 years ago or more played more than 2 decades ago.

So Lampard, Ferdinand and Gazza are total moot points from you.


23.) 18 Mar 2022 21:11:08
How many failure in cups do you want to see more to back any player in our squad?
There are a few who are new to the club but the core has been a bunch of failures for the last so many years. (Sevilla, Barcelona, Atletico, Villareal)
It keeps happening again and again where we have so much trouble putting 1 goal in.
The only player who usually stands out and has for a long time apart from 2 years of drop is de gea.
Bruno started as inspired signing but even he struggles in these games.
Who else do you rate in the team?
Who is the one you will get sad if he leaves? No one in the squad really.
We are an excuse and joke of a club and if we decide on giving rashford lingard or other culprits extension and keeping mata for 1 more year to avoid signings and keeping Maguire as captain the next season is a write-off right now only.


24.) 18 Mar 2022 22:54:49
Coming back to Rashford; it is possible that at the age of 24 he is done for, either mentally or physically, or both.

If Rashford is ever a regular starter for either Real Madrid, PSG or Bayern Munich I will be amazed. Football makes fools of us all but in this case; nah, no chance.

I feel sorry for the lad because he is obviously struggling but like I said, he isn't helping himself through lack of application on the pitch.


 

 

 

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25 Jul 2022 16:38:17
It's a good point Shappy and you are right but there are plenty of others like Williams who are good youngsters but when it comes down to it are never going to make it at Man Utd or any other TOP club.

For example; Chong, Shoretire, Elanga, Tuanzebe.

Utd need to spot these nearly players earlier and get some cash back for them. They also need to stop shelling out £35 million on long shots like Diallo.

BTW, Williams is on £65k a week, not exactly cheap wages.

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Agreed Ken. This is the sort of deal Utd need to get better at rather than collecting surplus players who will never get a game.

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Mumbles, my bet is he will stick with the money.

Apparently he only has about 500 million dollars so he needs to really work at the pension fund before he retires.

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Torres off to Juventus to replace de Light who is going to Chelsea?

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13 Aug 2022 08:41:20
Shappy, I have no experience of watching him play but he sounds like another Herrera. Is that right or is he a different kind of player?

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Damn right DodgyBanter. I'd want to know why it's only a tenner.

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Ed014. definitely I would swap squads but I think there are 9 or ten squads in the PL which are better than Utd's.

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09 Aug 2022 14:18:58
But Newyorker, it's super important that they get the right personalities in the dressing room to create harmony and build a team spirit.

Utd have finally got rid of some disrupting influences so the last thing they need is to bring in some new ones.

Players' characters should be the first thing that the club investigates before they even entertain a signing.

It doesn't matter how good any one is if they are some kind of weirdo with their mother in tow.

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