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19 Jul 2017 17:55:44
I've just read that there's more fantasy football going on at City with the signing of Danilo.

I find it very curious that there was no suggestion we were in for him since in my opinion we need another right back and he is willing to come to Manchester. Plus he was only £26 million!

It could be just that he preferred City or having worked once with our beam of sunshine manager decided never again.

The other possibilities are we have an alternative coming in or simply that Mourinho is happy with the players we have for that position. I noticed Valencia played at right back against Salt Lake and I think TFM got some time there as well. I didn't watch the Galaxy game. Has anyone else played at right back pre-season? Do you think Mourinho is happy to go into the season with those two plus Darmian?


1.) 19 Jul 2017 18:19:44
The fact he has slumped at Real and can't defend might be a reason.


2.) 19 Jul 2017 18:28:38
We can't sign everyone mate. Our targets were Semedo, Fabinho and Aurier. With Danilo plying his trade in Porto for a few years before moving to Madrid, I'm sure Jose knows enough about him and whether he'd suit us, evidently not. It's about getting players in that will suit our system and compliment our other players.


3.) 19 Jul 2017 18:42:23
When dids he work with jose mancman?


4.) 19 Jul 2017 18:53:06
Since the De Gea debarcle last season I can, t see Real Madrid selling us any ground staff never mind any players.
I know we have numerous targets, Perisic, Matic, Fabinho . Jose wanted them on the U. S tour, But you can't make clubs sell their players because we are interested in them.
Still feel a lot of players are not that keen on playing for Jose, It's only because we pay over the odds for players and agent fees, that we get them to sign.
City and pep put in offers for players, and get them.
Long time to go in the market I know, But we don't want to be signing players 24 hrs before season starts, Remember the Fellani deal anyone?


5.) 19 Jul 2017 18:59:26
Players want to play for Mourinho but we are not ready to meet he asking price.


6.) 19 Jul 2017 20:27:28
The United money men have their limits and rightly stick to it. Pep is playing a real life version of Football Manager at the moment and is yet to address the left back position and centre half.


7.) 19 Jul 2017 20:34:14
More to the point why buy a 2nd rb who can't defend for 26 mill after shelling out 55 mill for another rb who can't defend. What about their much vaunted academy if they wanted a bench sitter.


8.) 20 Jul 2017 09:22:13
The best right back to come through their academy is now first choice at Spurs and was sold for £3.5 million.


9.) 20 Jul 2017 13:25:35
Ken, you're right. After I posted I realised I hadn't checked whether his time at Real had co-incided with Mourinho's.

Nonetheless, because none of our wide players are natural wingers, I do think we need overlapping attacking fullbacks and both Walker and Danilo would fit the bill.

If we bring in a true defensive midfielder then I'm not so bothered about how well our fullbacks can defend, as long as they are good going forward.


 

 

 

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30 Jun 2020 13:32:16
Let's talk pure football.

What do you think will be the next innovations in football?

We've gone from 235 to 442 to 352 to 4231 and plenty of different formations. We've seen false nines, midfield diamonds, inverted wingers, fullbacks coming into midfield, a big man upfront, overlapping centre backs and loads of new ideas over the years.

What next? More knowledgeable students of the game will probably tell me I'm wrong about this but many things come full circle so my prediction is for football to revert to being more attacking with more players up front. It seems to me that Liverpool already play with almost five players up front and while the two widest players are nominally called full backs, they are more like wingers most of the time with Sane and Salah acting as inside forwards. It seems to be working for them so perhaps more teams will follow their model?

{Ed002's Note - Folks are very often misled about formations as they constantly need to adapt during a match. I recall a discussion once where it was decided that the only time formations could be considered fixed was at kick off. I know this guy at Clairefontaine who for maybe 25 years has been studying if and how different formations are applied. He advocates and teaches that certain sides (he cites Barcelona, Chelsea, Ajax and Kashima Antlers) that have achieved varying levels of success have actually now reverted to something between no formation at all and the Metodo approach and that strict formations should be a thing of the past. He wants to see intelligent players that can adapt as the game changes and this is what is being taught to the French kids who are seen as the future of the game in France. The reality is that whilst defending, even these sides will adopt a 3, 4 or 5 at the back with one or two in front. However, going forward these clubs look to 6 or 7 players being entirely flexible in the positions and space they fill - the premise being if they are intelligent players they will naturally work as a unit and make themselves available to constantly open up new options.}


1.) 30 Jun 2020 13:59:11
I can see a point in the future were heading and sliding challenges will be outlawed.
Not in the immediate future but perhaps at underage level.
The game is becoming somewhat sterile for me.
I also think that Var will become more influential whether we like it or not.


2.) 30 Jun 2020 14:30:55
In possession out possession, if x has it or y has it . Area of the pitch the ball is, constantly changing.


3.) 30 Jun 2020 16:05:13
If the 5 substitutes rule becomes the norm from next season on, i think it will have a major impact on the tactical approach to games. We may see teams looking at adopting distinct tactics at different points in the game as they will now have enough substitutes to make a significant difference in the way they play. We may start seeing extreme formations as result of this. while a defensive 5-4-1 is not uncommon for teams setting up a low block, we seldom see teams play with a 2-4-4 or 2-4-1-3 style formation for large periods of the game as they can't bring on enough personnel to play in the formation effectively or can't revert back if things go awry. Now teams can start sway between extremely attacking and defensive formations fairly quickly, and mroe importantly, with the right personnel. Almost a NFL -type approach with sets of players with special qualities (special teams -esque) coming on to do a particular job.
Half time and first half substitutions may become more common as will substituting substitutes and the concept of a starting 11 will become diluted. I also expect the play to become more intense (pressing, chasing etc. ) and games to end with greater energy.
On a side note, i expect (and hope) they also sort this VAR thing out.
A bonus would be having a minimum of 3 home grown players in any match day squad.


4.) 01 Jul 2020 12:50:26
Some really interesting, thought provoking replies; thanks very much.

What you all talk about are massive changes to the game yet are all very plausible, if not likely.

In 10 years time we could be watching a very different game.

What Ed002 talks about is exciting, especially if players become interchangeable and rotate in their positions. It was quite interesting to watch what happened in the game against Norwich when Maguire went upfront and Williams moved to centre half.

Ken, I agree about tackling but if we can make it safer without removing it all together then that has to be a good thing.

The intrusion of VAR could become a monster with the game becoming more stop/ start while phases of play are meticulously analysed. I was against VAR from the start and I've seen nothing to change my mind.

Ryans LF, I fear what you are describing but see how it could develop if we keep the 5 sub rule. It will be interesting to see how it used for the rest of this season.


 

 

19 Mar 2020 08:58:13
I'm not Pogba's biggest fan but the Daily Fail takes the biscuit today with their headline of him training in a Juve shirt.

Turns out his shirt has Matuidi's name and number on the back and he's just showing support for his sick friend but it's obvious the Fail was trying to suggest otherwise.

The latest report I read about Pogba;s future was that Utd were going to trigger his year contract extract extension and turn down Juve's 100 million euro offer. Ed002, do you know anything about this?

{Ed002's Note - Juventus has not made an offer at all.}


1.) 19 Mar 2020 16:21:43
Sorry Ed002 that is bull. My mate Dave drinks in the Trafford, he knows a bloke who goes to an Italian in Deansgate and the waiter has an Uncle in Milan. This uncle knows an elder bloke who went to a Juventus game in 1970 and he has confirmed the bid.


2.) 19 Mar 2020 18:27:35
Pogba knows what he's doing come on! I don't care either way but jesus christ why not wear a france shirt with his name on then?


3.) 19 Mar 2020 21:57:14
Dan James that's a good point. Thanks, now we are free to dislike Pogba just a little bit more.

Well done Daily Fail, keep them coming.


4.) 19 Mar 2020 22:28:51
MancMan
The point is he should know better. He knows exactly what it means for him to be wearing a Juventus top. It all choreographed rubbish from him and his agent. Same as when he dies his hair light blue just before the manchester derby.

At some point you have to call a bad egg and bad egg and move on.


5.) 19 Mar 2020 22:47:40
the two new lads in jan have done more than the to er has in 3 years.


6.) 20 Mar 2020 07:32:12
I agree; he's a tool and I'll be happy to see the back of him so we can replace him with a footballer.

Do you really think he thinks he is sending a message or making a point with that Juve shirt other than support for Matuidi? It's quite petty and pathetic if he does.


 

 

20 Dec 2019 06:32:59
Can't believe us or Arsenal didn't move for Ancellotti and let him go to Everton.

I find it amazing that these multi million pound businesses fill their key positions with unproven beginners such as Arteta and Solksjaer at these critical times rather than taking on a vastly experienced winner.

I know that could have been said of Jose but he was just a grumpy so and so who didn't want to be at Utd so that arrangement didn't stand a chance from day one.


1.) 20 Dec 2019 09:25:46
Well we didn’t go for Ancelotti because we have a manager.


2.) 20 Dec 2019 10:12:03
Not a very good one though Caolan. Given his awful record, the club would have been well within its rights to sack him and make the massive upgrade to Ancellotti.

Like I said, Man Utd is a business not an old boys club. This is just another example of amateurism.

I bet Everton can't believe their luck.

{Ed025's Note - we cant MM..


3.) 20 Dec 2019 11:13:21
Ancelotti is no longer a top tier manager. His last two jobs (Bayern and Napoli) have shown that to be the case. I would have loved him after Fergie but I would not take him now. There are reports of his training sessions lacking intensity and he’s too soft on his players. He has a wonderful CV m, especially in the CL, but has always struggled in the league. 1 serie A title in 9 years with that amazing Milan side in the mid to late 2000s suggests that. I think it’s a massive coup for Everton but I have a little doubt over his suitability for the role. I hope it works out though because he’s always been someone I’ve admired, I just don’t think his stock is as high as it once was. Much better and more progressive managers out there should we look for a new one.


4.) 20 Dec 2019 10:58:34
Has he ever built a team or just inherited them?

{Ed025's Note - a bit of both actually steve, he does need money and has always bought quality but he does improve sides, and he will need to have all that and a bit more if he is to turn us into a top 6 team mate..


5.) 20 Dec 2019 11:02:02
Ending in tears Ed025, Ancelotti is just not good enough anymore, couple that with the fact that your team/ squad is poor and it's a recipe for disaster.

{Ed025's Note - thanks for that scholesy, he is good enough though and his record is second to none, i think we are lucky to have him and he has the experience and tactical know-how to make us a force once again mate, let me ask you a question... would you rather have ancelotti or OGS as uniteds manager?..


6.) 20 Dec 2019 15:09:10
I’d take OGS for now and wait for someone better.


7.) 20 Dec 2019 16:21:45
No choice Eric 😁.


8.) 20 Dec 2019 16:28:34
Neither Ed025 because they're both not good enough, would stick with OGS IF i had to pick one simply because he seems to be targeting the right players in the transfer market, young, full of potential, want to play for the club etc.

{Ed025's Note - time will tell i suppose mate..


9.) 20 Dec 2019 16:29:59
His last two jobs have been underwhelming to say the least, poor at Bayern and even worse at Napoli, who sit 7th in the league.


10.) 20 Dec 2019 19:05:59
As opposed to the last two jobs that OGS had 😂😂😂

I jest - I like OGS in charge and his strategy although I’d like to see a DoF and some new coaches/ assistant manager injected into the club. We’re a bit one dimensional.


11.) 20 Dec 2019 20:50:49
I accept that his last two appointments didn't go as well as his previous achievements but I do think he would have been a good fit for MU.

Mourinho's last two appointments didn't work out well but there is every chance he might find his groove again at Spurs.

The idea that Solksjaer is a better option than Ancellotti is laughable.

Ed002, what's your view on how Ancellotti might have worked out at Utd and do you predict he will do well at Everton?


12.) 21 Dec 2019 12:29:47
Jose's last two appointments didn't work out MancMan? He won the league at Chelsea.


13.) 22 Dec 2019 10:58:14
I guess it depends on what we mean by didn't work out. Ancellotti won the league with Bayern but you reckon that was underwealming.

Let's just say that in both cases the wheels came off.


 

 

01 Oct 2019 14:33:54
£900 million spent since Fergie and from the current squad the only players I wouldn't sell right now are Dalot, Tuanzebe, Maguire, Lindeloff, AWB, McTominay, James, Greenwood, Gomes, Williams and Martial. It's not as though any of this list are amazing either, it's just that they at least might have some potential to kick on and become decent or they have just arrived and I'm interested to see if they settle and have something to offer.

As far as I'm concerned the rest of the squad is a shower who should never have been anywhere near wearing a man utd shirt.

How can supposedly smart business people look what they've got for the money (not their money admittedly) and be satisfied? How can they not see that their approach is not working especially when they can look at City and liverpool to see what can be achieved with at least some semblance of a plan and some people who know about running a FOOTBALL club.

I know the Glazers are about the money but surely they understand that crap product = less customers = less revenues = less profit. The legacy of our glorious history can only take us so far and it must be running on fumes by now? By the way, did anyone notice that the attendance lat night was only 73,000? The start of the fall off in interest maybe/ hopefully?

Ed002, are Utd any closer to finding a Director of Football? At this rate I'm thinking of putting myself forward.

{Ed002's Note - As I previously explained the circumstances would likely not be right for van der Sar at this time. They firstly need to make a decision and either stick with the mistake of OGS and ride it out, or offer Spurs £35M for MP and then look at the structure again.}


1.) 01 Oct 2019 15:00:18
Perhaps a very hard question to answer ed- but out of those two options what do you personally think they may do?

{Ed002's Note - Firstly, the owners are not responsible for making such decisions. I expect they will ride it out - at least for a while.}


2.) 01 Oct 2019 15:21:16
they will ride it out until around Christmas again and then sack him

they look even more like children when they go in for poch, promise him the world and set him up to fail as well.

the vicious circle that is man utd.


3.) 01 Oct 2019 17:48:05
I would add de Gea and Romero to the list, as I think we have a settled goalkeeping department.


4.) 01 Oct 2019 18:24:07
Making a coherently thought out strong positive decisions seems beyond us. If they stick with OGS it defies belief at the damage they are doing and could continue to do.

If there is a realistic option of getting Poch then for heaven sake stop dithering and wallowing in emotional sentimental drivel, for heavens sake get it done.


5.) 01 Oct 2019 18:38:40
I think it’ll be a funny old coincidence when Poch leaves Spurs and Ole gets pushed. If we are 10th/11th at Christmas then he’s a dead man walking.


6.) 01 Oct 2019 18:51:49
Fresh

Christmas? I think if we don’t beat Newcastle he has to be hanging by a thread. The International break gives the club chance to deal with it, however decision making hasn’t been a strong point.


7.) 01 Oct 2019 18:57:57
But Poch has never won anything. Was that not a prerequisite for the job? I'd have him, and always said so. But someone told me that you had to have someone who's won something. can't remember who it was.


8.) 01 Oct 2019 19:05:58
I said it was a question over him going back to when we appointed Mourinho, what three and a half years ago, however I also said he was a dark horse for the role at the time. Times have also changed poor decisions likely mean the very top managers like an Allegri may not want to put their reputation on the line with decision makers that we have and paucity of players. Poch has also done far better with Spurs than expected. Right now as we continue to sink I think Poch would be a very good bet and he does play young players

So Nou, given the choice would you stick with the failing manager or sack him and bring in Poch?


9.) 01 Oct 2019 17:25:47
Hi Ed002. Are you aware if Poch would be interested in joining MUFC?

{Ed002's Note - My understanding is that a new challenge would be attractive at some point in the not too distant future. The two obvious options are clubs with coaches who probably have a limited future without a step change. Spurs, I understand may have used to enquire via a third party about the interest of a replacement - SHOULD they need it. Manchester United may decide to ride it out with OGS and have been throwing money at making changes but with players who, in reality, need a better (or at least different) coach. Mauricio Pochettino would want to understand very clearly what the pot of boiling oil he could potentially be stepping in to is like. He would want control, or at least reasonable control, over transfers. The issue with MAdrid is Mr Mourinho and MP will know that Real Madrid have a split board about JMs return - but the force of Perez is behind him. The malcontents have gone or will go in the summer. The fans want a solution and want JM which does not bode well for MP, although he has his support at the club. Manchester United are an option but are run by amateurs and there might well be significant restrictions on clearing out and rebuilding after the club has continued to piss money up the wall. So maybe he will stay at Spurs and have the quiet life, or look to other options.}


10.) 01 Oct 2019 20:20:42
Thanks for your comprehensive answer Ed002. Really appreciate your insight. Any chance you could tell us who Spurs have been sounding out (sorry! ) .

{Ed002's Note - Allegri.}


11.) 01 Oct 2019 20:42:57
Thanks for all that Ed, much appreciated if not very uplifting.

Reading between the lines it seems to me there might be some people behind the scenes who are doing very nicely out of the status quo so are resistant to any change.


12.) 01 Oct 2019 21:21:46
Ed002,

Thanks for the very insightful information. Last summer was the icing on the cake when no midfield reinforcements were brought in when even the least smartest fan could've figured out that 2 midfielders were an absolute necessity. Letting Sanchez and Lukaku go without any replacement showed apathy towards the fans and any hope of success.

It is absolutely astonishing that they've been briefing to the press about having had a "successful" summer and using it as evidence that what they're doing is working. Its borderline delusion. Maguire is decent but for that price we could've gotten two players of his quality. Wan Bissaka's price was way inflated as well. We even overpaid for Daniel James. Thankfully they're playing well unlike our previous expensive flops.

I think most fans would be happy if we bring in Pochetino. But he will need to be allowed to clear out some of the squad that is simply not good enough and will need major churning and retooling. Also expectations will need to be tempered with proper communication with the fans and media but I think resentment is simply growing amongst the fans.

If the same people that have been negotiating for us since Sir Alex left are the ones operating in the transfer market I have no hope. They will do the same thing to Pochetino that they did to Moyes, LVG, Jose and now OGS.

Am I correct in thinking the restrictions you mention on rebuilding are due to troubles with FFP and dropping revenue from TV and sponsorships as a result of failure to qualify for the UCL?

These amateurs as you describe them are destroying a great institution bit by bit for the last 8 years and its really sad to see.

{Ed002's Note - The restrictions relate to lower income and constant failure to address the issues.}


13.) 01 Oct 2019 21:55:24
Thanks for the reply Ed002.

I hope they find some sense and make the necessary changes in the structure, bring the right people in and appoint the right coach. A bit too much for this board unfortunately.

I doubt it will happen but hope is all we have.

{Ed002's Note - Which board?}


14.) 01 Oct 2019 22:02:06
Thanks again Ed002. Pretty please come and sort our club out and rid us of the amateurs.


15.) 01 Oct 2019 23:39:27
Doc, you do know that Ed002 is an AI and not a real person?


16.) 02 Oct 2019 02:00:07
Red Man, I'd have Poch here without a doubt. IF our current manager can't turn things round.

Winning a trophy wasn't a prerequisite for me when choosing a manager. It's why I argued the likes of Eddie Howe should be considered.

It was you that said winning a trophy was a necessity for any applicants. I believe you were quite vocal in this regard, especially when Moyes was appointed. Nice to see you've mellowed on this view. Only realistic, really, when the number of coaches in the big leagues who've actually won anything, becomes a smaller and smaller group.


17.) 02 Oct 2019 09:38:57
Lol Manc Man. AI would still do a better job than the amateurs.


18.) 02 Oct 2019 09:59:27
Thing is Noucamp with the club being so badly, we will just continue to burn through coaches no matter how good they are.

Sure, a better coach will get more out of what he has but without the players he really needs and the supporting infrastructure this can only take them so far.

Coming to Utd is starting to look like career suicide for both managers and players.


19.) 02 Oct 2019 10:41:09
Who are the amateurs running the show you speak of Ed?

{Ed002's Note - It is unimportant - the MU supports don't know anything about the workings of the club and tehre is no point giving them names to throw toxic abuse at.}


20.) 02 Oct 2019 12:25:31
I agree MancMan. I'd give Ole the time and players he needs. Just being realistic, though. If he doesn't get the results, I don't know if those above will have the patience to sit it out.


 

 

01 Mar 2019 12:12:07
Ed002, if you have a moment?

Who at the club wanted to sign Fred?

Cheers!

{Ed002's Note - Someone who is now gone from the club.}


1.) 01 Mar 2019 15:18:31
Hi Ed, With this someone now gone and Fred playing so poorly is the club looking to move him on? Or will this not be decided until a manager is announced?

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any interest in him.}


2.) 01 Mar 2019 15:47:35
I think he deserves another season. Some players take longer to settle than others. Look at Lindelof this season compared to this season for example. If in 12 months time there's no improvement then needs to be considered.


3.) 01 Mar 2019 16:43:15
Totally agree mort.


4.) 01 Mar 2019 16:49:15
Hes probably wondering why his name gets sung throughout the game. Sadly it’s because it rhymes with bred. Let’s hope he earns his own song next year.


5.) 01 Mar 2019 17:45:05
He looks a little lost at time, adjusting to the pace and the power of the EPL. He is too easily pushed off the ball and he takes too long on the ball at times as well.

I think he could adapt, however To do so will take game time. It's whether he can get that.

I would give him another season the EPL is a massive step up from the Ukrainian league.


6.) 01 Mar 2019 17:48:31
The situation with Lindelof is completely different.

Lind is a young cb who had to get used to the physicality of the EPL, and even last season he showed his quality at the international level.

Fred is a player who should be entering his peek years, and I still don’t know what he’s actually good at. Terrible first touch, not particularly creative on the ball, offers nothing in the final third, average defensively.

What is he good at?
What makes him a £50m player?
What is his function in our team?


7.) 01 Mar 2019 18:55:17
Thanks Ed002.

I'm afraid I agree with Danny. I don't tho k it's a question of adjusting to the league, I just don't see the basics of first touch, positioning and vision in him.

He looks like he shouldn't even be playing in the Premier League, nevermind for Man Utd.

{Ed002's Note - The solution would be to loan him out as I doubt a buyer can be found at anything like a reasonable price.}


8.) 01 Mar 2019 19:42:30
Cheers Ed for the reply. I agree with Danny as well. I cannot see him ever being at the level required to play for Man United. I’d be more than happy if he proved me wrong though.


9.) 01 Mar 2019 20:39:45
I agree he’s been poor but Lindelof was shocking and look at him now. Some adjust immediately, some take time, some never adjust. We shall see.


10.) 02 Mar 2019 07:00:44
AJH, Lindelof always looked like a good footballer though. Most importantly, he looked comfortable with a ball whereas Fred looks scared by it.


 

 

 

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07 Jul 2020 16:27:01
Not if he's sat in the bench. Also, it's not much use if de Gea sits on the bench for £350k a week either. I think one has to go but there are only a limited number of clubs who will take de Gea on that money.

Imagine if Real Madrid came in for Henderson next year. that would cause a stir.

Ed002, I think you said Madrid aren't too happy with Courtois. Are they interested in de Gea and do you think there is a possibility they could move for Henderson?

{Ed002's Note - Real Madrid have no interest in him at this time.}


 

 

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02 Jul 2020 15:02:00
There's nothing wrong with him moving to a club where he will play and improve. In fact, I think that's a much better idea than stagnating at Utd.


 

 

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30 Jun 2020 22:35:28
Good point Ken, maybe it is that he is such a miserable so and so that they just don't want him around. Does anyone know how long he has left on his contract?

Also, can anyone remember why we signed him in the first place? Who at the club wanted to bring him in?


 

 

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30 Jun 2020 12:23:34
Is there no way we can get a tune out of him? He's only 31 and plenty of footballers are able to engineer some kind of renaissance after a bad spell or an injury.

Maybe a change of position would help? Could he play alongside Bruno as two number 8s? Could he be re-invented as a holding midfielder? Kitman? physio? Bloody hell, I don't know!

What is it that's wrong with him anyway? He used to be pretty good, why did he become so crap?


 

 

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17 Jun 2020 15:03:08
But Eric, he has been given a chance and was rubbish.

I see your point Shappy, that makes sense. Maybe we can get a few quid back for him.


 

 

 

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11 Jul 2020 10:11:18
Rooney and Giggs weren't football greats? Are you kidding Redman?


 

 

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10 Jul 2020 11:54:42
For me the key difference is having three midfielders who all look for the forward pass and movement ahead of them.


 

 

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03 Jul 2020 20:16:37
Depends which talents you are talking about Ed001.

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03 Jul 2020 13:05:48
It might be easier to buy Dortmund and use it as a feeder club.


 

 

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02 Jul 2020 15:04:08
Hi Denis!