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05 May 2024 18:09:44
Maguire injured in training and out for 3 weeks apparently. Another training injury.

Red Man

1.) 05 May 2024 18:20:58
I think he's been playing injured for quite some time.


2.) 05 May 2024 18:21:55
Just posted that. Surely someone has to be looking at our training methods, the amount of muscle injuries is a total joke.


3.) 05 May 2024 20:06:39
Does anyone remember that up until a recent point, the length and type of injury was never disclosed?

And now the media machine is in overdrive, things have become a lot more detailed ?.


4.) 06 May 2024 07:13:09
Might mean that Louis Jackson gets his chance.


5.) 06 May 2024 11:40:33
Other clubs have suffered similar injury issues when they have had a manager trying to introduce a high energy pressing style.

The thought is that you need to increase the players fitness and stamina and the only way to do that is to train at a high level over a long period of time to raise base level fitness.

Teams that have done this have tended to suffer a season of excessive injuries, before the players were conditioned to have the stamina and base fitness required to play a high pressing style.

Given EtH's comments at the start of the season of wanting to turn us into the best transitional team in the world, along with occasional comments about the intensity of training, and our injuries this season it does sound like we are training to raise base fitness and stamina of the squad, which will be contributing to the injuries.

If we are to commit to a high energy, transitional style then these injuries are just part of the growing pains that we will have to endure to get there.

Hopefully next season then players will be better conditioned because of this season and less prone to injuries, while those not suited to that style should hopefully be moved on and replaced with players suited to that style.

Of course that depends on whether the manager will be here next season and that style is the style the new owners/ club structure wants us to play moving forward.

From the outside looking in it looks like EtH tried to introduce this style at the start of last season, but quickly realised he didn't have the players to play it, so he went more pragmatic. Over the summer he looked to make changes to the squad and decided to commit to this style of play. According to the man himself part of his remit when he was hired was to impart this style of play on the squad. Last season they accepted the limitations and a more pragmatic approach, but with the intention of planning for and moving towards this direction this season.

EtH seems to have just followed through with the plan agreed between him and the club. He's taking the short term pain on the chin this season with a view on the long term gains.

It would be a shame if he doesn't get the chance to see through these plans, but if the new club structure doesn't align with this direction then it's best to end things sooner rather than later.

Personally as a fan I prefer a higher energy more transitional style over a slower possession based approach. I feel it's more entertaining to watch and is more closely aligned to the style of play I associate with Manchester United.

Yet that is just my opinion, and ultimately it is the opinion of the new owners and the new people being put in key positions at the club that will ultimately decide the direction of the club. My job as a supporter isn't to fight against it if they don't do what I want, but to support the club in this new direction. Whatever that may be.


 

 

26 Apr 2024 17:47:54
At the game Wednesday I overheard a rumour and worth sharing, not about players but about reconstruction. There was talk that the Quicks car garage on the corner near the top of the road was being bought to house the new Megastore in future.

Red Man

1.) 27 Apr 2024 16:02:51
INEOS will be upgrading the men's section of Carrington this summer. Much welcome changes.


2.) 28 Apr 2024 11:25:30
I love these kinds of rumours, and it's a shame we don't see more of them on here anymore.

I think it's clear there will be big changes at the club over the next decade or more.

SJR has not invested a huge amount of money (with it likely that he will invest more in the future) in order to keep things as they are.

I think he sees Manchester United as his legacy, his chance to leave an indelible mark on the city he grew up in. Can he be the man who puts Manchester United back on our perch.

The rumours and from what he's said openly all sound great. Focus on youth and developing players, something that should be synonymous with the club. Focus on an entertaining style of play, again something that has been a big part of our history. Looking to redevelop Old Trafford and the surrounding area. To breathe new life into Manchester and create a stadium and facilities that are not just the envy of the rest of the country, but also that can support and reconnect the club with the local area. Somewhere for people to gather as a community, a place that offers employment opportunities, improvements in infrastructure and possibly even housing.

The club appears to be focused on buying up space around the stadium, and that almost certainly means they are gearing towards some form of redevelopment of the area. While the recent news of a task force being put together to look at and explore opportunities around the stadium just confirms this.

Personally I'd like to see a Manchester United development built up. With ideally a new stadium that will be the biggest and best in the country, a second smaller stadium for the women and youth teams to play at, hotels, food outlets, a rebuilt museum, a community centre, shops, and attractions. With well integrated sustainable infrastructure, roads, rail etc.

Somewhere for fans to gather not just for hours before and after matches, but for youth and women's games, for special events and weekly events. Somewhere that can be the hub of the Manchester United community.

Hopefully that or something closer to that is what we get. How we get there I don't know, but I have faith that SJR will push to get us something like that.


3.) 30 Apr 2024 12:09:25
heres another 1 shappy- for quite some time we always parked in akp grounds rear of the ticket office and canal. Earlier this year got told off the attendants that "man utd had taken keys back " and stopped it and the depot from being used . Large plot in very prominent position.


 

 

11 Mar 2024 20:38:58
Reports say Amad has deleted all mention of his club connection from his social media. Another player hacked off, likely because he has got virtually zero minutes. Looked to have a nice left foot.

Red Man

1.) 11 Mar 2024 22:25:49
Another unusual signing of the Ole era.


2.) 12 Mar 2024 05:58:01
Wazza

Big money for an unknown kid. But he hasn’t even been given minutes from Sub, why not, instead of Antony. Now another player that looks like he has been ostracised by ETH, whose value will now plummet because of this. Someone needs to ask if ETH is handling these situations right. Bruno, Rashford and Antony don’t have to play well, get time. Now ETH has pushed another nose out of joint by the look of it. Good enough not good enough but the kid hasn’t been given anything.


3.) 12 Mar 2024 07:07:33
Out of curiosity did you see him play at forest in the cup? Looked a million miles off the required level in that 25 minutes! I’m not sure why the manager is getting stuck for a ridiculous priced signing he didn’t make not getting minutes when he sees him every day and it appears Forson has jumped above him!


4.) 12 Mar 2024 07:29:53
He has been given minutes.

How do you know this is a falling out with the manager, rather than Diallo now performing well in training?

Hasn’t ETH dropped Antony to give your beloved Garnacho that position, with the latter starting something like 25 games in a row

This pesty manager, I really wish he’d give one or two teenagers a prolonged run in the team….


5.) 12 Mar 2024 07:30:18
Apparently that's not quite right, he's deactivated his social media for Ramadan.

Be careful which reports you read and remember not to jump to conclusions.


6.) 12 Mar 2024 08:53:44
He has explained that decision by saying: “I deactivated my social media for a month just to focus on Ramadan, it’s a holy month for me and social media is a place where there are bad things to see during fasting. Stop the hatred, there’s nothing wrong with what I did. ”.


7.) 12 Mar 2024 10:35:46
He deleted Utd related stuff and left those from Sunderland. I know we play some haram football under ten Hag but come on, read between the lines. I get his frustration though. I too would be fuming if Antony was playing more minutes than me, and I am not even a professional footballer.


8.) 12 Mar 2024 10:51:40
Quick to jump on absolutely anything to have a go at the club, maybe take a step back and think before you post. The press make enough stuff up without stirring it up ourselves, I guess they got what they wanted though if people believed it.


9.) 12 Mar 2024 14:24:54
He doesn't get a game because he's no better than what we have already.
Absolute waste of money!
40 million Euros for a player that made 5 first team apperances and currently earns about 35 grand a week.
This just about sums United up really.


10.) 12 Mar 2024 14:48:52
Of course its ETH fault, everything is his fault. Posters here know more than the manager who spends 6 days a week with the players.


11.) 12 Mar 2024 15:53:19
Nice to see some humility from Red Man with an admission of getting it very wrong!

On an unrelated matter, I recently saw ETH walking down the street and at the bottom of the road he had the temerity to turn right, can you believe that? clearly this shows a complete unsuitability to be allowed to walk outside as all the experts know you should always turn left at the bottom of a road.


12.) 12 Mar 2024 19:06:07
IWOTB,

It reminds me of my mates in WhatsApp groups who only message when we are losing, as soon as we are winning I hear nothing, nobody seems to be able to celebrate wins anymore, just get annoyed about defeats.


13.) 12 Mar 2024 20:09:08
I want our trophy back

If I was wrong then I hold my hands up

However, sounds an unusual action especially if he left the Sunderland information in. Looks to me like he was frustrated and reacted, but see what happens to him and see what information comes out.


14.) 12 Mar 2024 22:09:44
Red Man, he has clearly stated that he has deactivated his social media for a month just to focus on Ramadan.

The point is though, you seem to just scour the media purely to seek negative stories which you then jump on here to use as a stick to beat every aspect of the club with. Leaving aside the issue of perhaps looking to find some correlation of the truth or otherwise of these usually spurious and nonsensical stories, it has to be said you seem to have lost all sense of even handedness and fair mindedness towards anything related to the club, yet you try and present yourself as some form of premier supporter.


15.) 12 Mar 2024 22:14:39
Giggs to Sheringham, yes mate, you are spot on. When we win almost no posts, see after Everton game.
If we lose it goes mental with dozens of posts essentially repeating the same thing over and over.


16.) 13 Mar 2024 10:31:57
Redman - look at what this player just did.

Everyone - the guy gave a clear explanation, it’s nothing.

Redman - *staring at photo of Amad’s nice left foot* still seems fishy to me.


17.) 13 Mar 2024 18:39:10
I want our trophy back

Let’s see as the season comes to a close. I will say something about what I see, especially when the clowns at the club have made such a mess.

Also, I won’t bother posting about it, sure you can read about Season Ticket holders in Section 122.

Danny, well they told me it was Amads left foot I was looking at….


 

 

10 Feb 2024 08:53:18
We are apparently watching young players in Argentina, probably along with other clubs. The names mentioned are Franco Mastantuono, Aaron Anselmino, Ian Subiabre and Tomas Parmo.

Red Man

1.) 10 Feb 2024 17:23:12
This makes total sense and assume we have been doing this all along just not acting on many . I think we were in for alveres of City.
We need to be exploring all markets for the best value young players.


2.) 13 Feb 2024 21:20:38
I think we would all applaud this kind of policy, however these youngsters have to come into an environment where they can develop, fulfil their potential and have a route to the first team

Without that in place, these players will just be wasting their time coming to us.


 

 

15 Dec 2023 07:02:04
Rumours backed by a photo are circulating that after being ill for the Bayern game, Rashford was partying in London with Sancho. Rumours also of a £180m bid for Rashford from Saudi.

Sell or keep? Sell Rashford for me.

Red Man

1.) 15 Dec 2023 07:36:51
180 million for Rashford, definitely sell him.


2.) 15 Dec 2023 08:07:51
sell, no brainer.


3.) 15 Dec 2023 08:09:50
Take 180 million as long as sancho is included, (and Martial)


4.) 15 Dec 2023 08:10:12
Its bs photo redman. its from the summer. People just being toxic/ evil spreading false stuff on social media.


5.) 15 Dec 2023 08:32:05
I would sell the whole squad for about £180m lol apart from Mainoo and Garnacho.


6.) 15 Dec 2023 08:38:38
Social media, absolutely toxic.


7.) 15 Dec 2023 09:55:26
Pretty sure the photos aren't from when they are suggesting they are.

Regardless, Rashford is a player who splits opinion. On form he is our best player. He's a Mancunian, an academy lad and everything the club should stand for.

The only real issue seems to be his form is streaky. Although there does seem to be some people who took a dislike to him for his work making sure poor kids didn't starve, yet if you hold that against him then it says a lot more about you as a person than him.

His form is a problem only when you are reliant on him to be your major source of goals.

If we had a 30 goal a season striker, and a 20 goal a season right winger then it really wouldn't make a huge difference whether Rashford had a 15 goal season or a 30 goal season.

I'd also imagine his form would be a lot less streaky when he's playing in a team with quality players around him. The opposition wouldn't be able to double up on him like they do currently. Which would give him more time and space on the ball. Also you'd imagine the quality of chances he'd be presented with would increase with better players. Both factors leading to Rashford having more chances to score, and chances of a higher quality. Which would probably lead to him scoring more consistently.

The problem isn't that Rashford isn't good enough, it's that he is in a team that isn't good enough.

All that said, if someone came in with 180m then I think the club would have to sell him. With Garnacho coming through on the left, then the bulk of that money could be used to rebuild the rest of the side. If that did happen hopefully we'd be successful in spending that money like Liverpool were when selling Coutinho to fund players like Alisson and VvD, rather than when Spurs spunked the Bale money up against the wall, buying mostly flops.


8.) 15 Dec 2023 11:24:27
Sad gullible fools actually believe this sort of garbage.
But a lot of our own fans look for the poison and believe it when it suits them and revel in it. Very sad.


9.) 15 Dec 2023 12:11:57
Shappy - he does split opinion but would argue that he is our best player on form, as he is never on form for long enough periods: it doesn't matter if he is a mancunian either, best, law, charlton, rooney, cantona and so on!
his problem is workrate and application -he wants left wing but won't cross/ pass tries to beat the same man twice and loses the ball - then walks back or if his teamates are lucky, slowly trots. He has got ability but doesn't seem happy to put in the work to let it shine.
Agree there are plenty around him the same but despite having less ability/ skill levels albeit in a different area of the pitch he could learn a lot about applying his skillset from maguire. There is obviously uncertainty throughout the club and that is from the top to the playing side but he is 26 a senior pro and international player who should be doing better by far.
there are others to be sold before him but if, if the offers came in at the figures mooted the club should accept. ps very much doubt it though.


10.) 15 Dec 2023 14:38:01
Would take £18m for Rashford currently.


11.) 15 Dec 2023 14:44:26
I would sell him regardless of the what money is offered.
Get rid.


12.) 15 Dec 2023 15:10:58
Heard a rumour wednesday evening before the newcastle match that they are seriously interested in rashford: this was off a mag with a box at st james - wouldn't think so though?


13.) 15 Dec 2023 18:20:53
I’d take 18p at this moment in time.


14.) 15 Dec 2023 22:40:56
Hard for people to accept, but isn’t good enough despite how much people want him to be. Sell at the going rate, but definitely sell.


15.) 16 Dec 2023 07:44:45
Wow Shappy, he was never our best player, and even when he does score, he still is too selfish, slow to pass, doesn't defend and what not, but he covers it with goals. I remember watching a game few years ago, where he repeatedly destroys our attacks by not passing or not passing on time. Few years later it is all the same.

I don't believe anyone would offer that kind of money for him, but i'd sell him for 1/ 3 of that.


16.) 16 Dec 2023 15:10:13
He is 26 now, on a rumoured £300k a year and stopped scoring regularly in February, sounds like a United player to me, why would we sell.


17.) 16 Dec 2023 15:32:11
He wasn’t. The account that posted it admitted that it was fake.


18.) 17 Dec 2023 07:20:42
Let's just hate on rash even if its bs. gives some here reason to vent lol.


19.) 17 Dec 2023 08:20:40
His ex girlfriend is in the pictures I saw so clearly not from the other night, people will believe anything.


20.) 17 Dec 2023 10:10:34
GDS

I am no social media expert but I did read in the papers a couple of weeks ago that he was back with said girlfriend, hired a restaurant for a meal. True or fake picture, I would still sell him. Anyone who doesn’t give 100% for that shirt deliberately needs selling.


21.) 17 Dec 2023 11:14:17
I wouldn't be surprised by anything at all from Saudi. Maybe if Liverpool knock back the Salah approach again Rash will be the next target, who knows.
I'm more surprised (or maybe I shouldn't be by now) that people have an interest in what players do with their free time, let alone when they're from 6 months ago.


22.) 17 Dec 2023 12:55:41
Yes Rashford is back with his former finance.

He also continues to be a little pleb off the pitch.


23.) 17 Dec 2023 13:51:27
Oh that’s good news, hopefully he will settle back down now then, always better when players have sorted out their personal lives.


24.) 19 Dec 2023 15:42:09
No idea what's going on with rashford but always comes across as a lovely fella who did the business last year.

He more than deserves a chance to put it right. No one knows what's going on with him.


 

 

 

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19 Jul 2024 06:36:30
Leny Yoro: "Since my first conversations with the club, they set out a clear plan for how I can develop in Manchester as part of this exciting project, and showed a lot of care for me and my family. "

I read the above and what a difference from the previous senior management. A clear plan and care. Very pleased to hear those words and the structure above the manager coach looks very good.

Red Man

1.) 19 Jul 2024 07:05:30
Nothing to do with reports that "Lille were prepared to make Leny Yoro sit out for a season if he didn't join Manchester United as the French club made sure they got a profit for their asset amid interest from Real Madrid".
Makes me wonder if 'his quote' isn't a release by the club. I hope not.


2.) 19 Jul 2024 07:17:12
Fizz, correct me if I wrong but i'm sure that 'story' was first reported by marca, if so that says it all.


3.) 19 Jul 2024 07:20:55
Fizz why would that be? Imagine what a new signing would think, if the announcement from the club included a quote from the player that he didn’t actually say? ? it’s like Twitter on here at the moment with all these conspiracy theories.

Red Man - I read that too and immediately assumed the same will be happening with our youngsters and they will finally be offered a clear path to the first team, which didn’t exist under the previous structure.

It’s all looking more positive again. The De Ligt deal has gone very quiet which is my only disappointment, but there’s still loads of time remaining in the window and the club are moving a lot faster than they had done previously.


4.) 19 Jul 2024 07:57:28
Completely agree with wazza, we don't need to look for hidden meanings and overtime everything.


5.) 19 Jul 2024 08:05:32
Fizz, Madrid have missed out on Yoro (for now at least), and their pet paper suddenly claims Lille threatened to leave him on the bench if he didn't sign for Utd. You don't think they might be making stuff up to help RM save face?

Marca have done similar things before when RM didn't get a target, because the idea of a RM failing to land a player they set their sights on goes against the RM brand.


6.) 19 Jul 2024 08:20:13
In fairness most, if not all statements like these are written on the person’s behalf and released by the club and its media staff.

It is very unlikely those are his words.

Standard big business methodology.


7.) 19 Jul 2024 12:47:13
Red man, I heard ETH really convinced him in the end. Well done Erik.


8.) 19 Jul 2024 12:59:25
Not only that quote but also the quote on how we treated his family

Says a lot about how the club are being ran and the people in those positions are no longer amatures.

It will take time for 10 years of a rotting mess to be fixed but early signs are positive signings are always 50/ 50 to work but I like what I’m seeing atm with the profile of players being targeted.

Not only with signings but the way we have handled players being sold

Not overpricing players and getting good deals selling.


9.) 19 Jul 2024 13:03:00
And there was me thinking these threads were for ‘banter’ and ‘transfer rumours’……. turns out I was wrong and they are actually serious, factual, and legally binding……….


10.) 19 Jul 2024 13:24:29
Nonsense Keefy, of course the player is involved.


11.) 20 Jul 2024 11:53:34
It was what the player said during his unveiling interview with the club.

It's almost certainly a bit of both, it probably reflects how he's feeling to a certain extent, while he has probably been briefed by the club and his entourage about what to say. Finally the club publish which parts of the interview they want, so have almost certainly picked out the bits that reflect most positively on the club.

Did Lille put pressure on him to accept the United offer? Maybe who knows, but personally I doubt they'd have gone as far as saying he'll not play for the first team next season if he stays at Lille. That literally makes no sense for the club to cut their nose off to spite their face. Having to pay one of their best players all season and not play him. Surely a better tactic would be to try and convince him to accept a new deal, maybe with a release clause or gentlemen's agreement to get his a move to Real Madrid next summer.

As someone pointed out the first place this was published was the Madrid publication Macia. A publication that is known as being Real Madrid's mouthpiece. Whether that was published to put pressure on Yoro to wait for them, or as a saving face exercise as the club knew they would lose out on the player who knows.

Either way I wouldn't give it any credence.

What we know is that Madrid were interested in signing him next year for free, the player (like most players, wanted to play for Real Madrid) . Yet it was United that showed the most ambition to sign him, making a big offer this summer and have presented a plan for him and how he would fit in at the club, how they hope to help him develop and become a top player.
The player then willing accepted the offer from United, so while Real Madrid might have been his preference initially, he willing chose to join us.

You'd think if he still harbours ambitions to play for Madrid that he will be focused on becoming the best player he can be, making himself a player Real Madrid feel they have to come back in for at some point down the line.

While if he settles well, develops and becomes a top player at United, while the club successfully gets back to challenging for the major honours, then maybe he'll want to stay at the club. If not then the club can sell him if an acceptable offer is made, wish him the best and thank him for his years of good service and then bring in the next young great player to build into the side.

Players are transient, even the greatest players eventually wane and need replacing. That's football. If we are a well run club (and it looks like we will be) then the club will have a plan A, B, C and D for all eventualities. Be that players getting injured and not coming back to the same level, them declining, or if they want to leave.

A well run club will have a young hungry player in the squad ready to step up, and/ or a list of potential replacements they could sign.

Ronaldo became the best player in the world with us, won the Balon d'Or, and left as he was hitting his prime for Real Madrid. He had great success, but people forget that we continued to challenge for and win titles after Ronaldo left.

If the same thing happens with Yoro then so be it. We will continue to be successful after he leaves, be that in 5, 10 or 15 years time.


 

 

12 Jun 2024 07:11:56
Whilst unconfirmed, rumours ETH may be staying?

I am a little surprised but not shocked because the longer it went on left me wondering why the delay, however, it does seem a little bit indecisive if honest, should the news be true. Feels like they have demeaned ETH with the time taken to make a decision and we still await communication officially. It makes the manager seem weaker publicly in that it took all this time to reach a conclusion, maybe the senior management not all being in position doesn't help.

There are better managers out there, but I don't include Southgate in that. However, if the club have decided to stick then so be it, we move on. The team has my full support and I will flag the good and bad of ETH where I see it as I always have.

Positively, there is a chance to integrate the U18 players in the next couple of years and that has to be high in their thought process. If ETH is tasked to do that, the club may trust him more than other new options.

I only hope that if the club provide a new contract, it is a rolling one or a better payout structure, so each season can be judged on merit. If they gave him a new 3 year contract, he is terrible again, then the larger pay off affects finances. The new owners are more savvy, so should have thought of this

Lastly, I am not downhearted ETH stays, if rumour true, but a little bemused and wonder what to expect. ETH tactics were spectacularly awful most of last season, must improve there, I still wonder why there was a sudden change towards season end. Wilcox and co will drive better tactics than Darren Fletcher, likely Wilcox given a stronger remit. I hope the transfer department are stronger, we can't just look at players ETH feels comfortable with or has worked with.

The Sun will shine again at Old Trafford, hopefully in August.

Red Man

1.) 12 Jun 2024 08:58:40
Which better managers are available Redman?


2.) 12 Jun 2024 09:07:06
Red man, I'm unsure as to what you think wilcox does or will be doing. You keep going on about this.

You think he will drive the tactics? Bizarre IMO. Give him the managers job if that's the case.


3.) 12 Jun 2024 12:52:15
Angel, here we go again. Any victory is down to Wilcox, and any defeat is down to ETH’s tactics. It says as much above.


4.) 12 Jun 2024 13:08:22
I love that they did a full review, and have decided to stick with ETH, I was unconvinced by any of the names mentioned.

The players also now know the score so need to knuckle down. They seemed to be playing for him, and if we can avoid as many injuries, and strengthen the squad, then we will see progress. If there is anyone not committed then let's ship them out.


5.) 12 Jun 2024 15:15:30
I don't agree with much if anything that Redman and Ken put on here but I do think Wilcox coming in as technical director has had an influence on the tactics and the style of play we will be adopting. The club will decide now if we are going to be a possession based team, counter attacking team, high press team etc and when it comes to transfers, ETH will probably identify positions to strengthen but it will be Wilcox, Ashworth and co who will identify the player who's profile best suits the way we will be playing. I think this is why we have Head Coaches now rather than Managers. ETH will have a brief now and it will be down to him to implement this and when the time comes that he moves on, a new manager who fits the profile of how we play comes in and has players to work with rather than players that the previous manager wanted.


6.) 12 Jun 2024 15:53:59
Of course it did that's what he was employed for.


7.) 12 Jun 2024 19:36:44
It’s been reported Wazza, Wilcox is said to have suggested to Ten Hag to play Fernandes as a false 9 in the FA cup final which Ten Hag accepted and it worked. People saying the dof or sporting director or whatever having no input are clearly wrong.


8.) 12 Jun 2024 20:09:59
I don’t think I agree with the idea Wilcox suggested playing Fernandes as a false number 9 in the cup final but I can imagine a conversation about getting the midfield more compact. I’m pretty certain ETH has played Fernandes as a false 9 before the cup final anyway so not it’s hardly a surprising approach. Essentially if Wilcox is doing this then give him the job ?.


9.) 13 Jun 2024 09:58:23
He’s forming a game model for the whole club to follow not just the first team. He’s also not a first team coach. You can be a tactician without being a coach, everything's not so lineal.


 

 

29 May 2024 06:36:41
Morning

I seem to remember we all filled in a guess of who would finish where at the start of the season, think AJH ran it? Whilst I can’t remember half my selection, plus the Champions League is still to be resolved, will this be published after the final? Can it be pinned to the top of a page?

Red Man

1.) 29 May 2024 10:49:30
Not this year Red Man, I didn't do it this time.


2.) 29 May 2024 11:48:07
Fancy doing one for the Euros AJH? Group winners, semi finalists, winners?


3.) 29 May 2024 13:02:47
AJH

I am certain I input details.


4.) 29 May 2024 13:20:03
Lol, age is catching up with you, I skipped this year.


5.) 29 May 2024 15:36:42
Red man the post may have been put up by a different poster.


6.) 29 May 2024 17:07:42
I remember doing it as well Redman. Who organised it?


7.) 29 May 2024 18:18:35
I was thinking about this aswel.


8.) 29 May 2024 18:27:20
I filled it in right near the end of the transfer window, end of August, absolutely certain I did it. Anyone know how to find the original post in the archives?


9.) 29 May 2024 18:43:00
I don't want to know I remember some of my answers.


10.) 30 May 2024 10:17:03
I think someone posted asking for predictions, but they were in a post, I don't think they were captured anywhere.


11.) 30 May 2024 11:00:50
Oakbark. Very funny??.


 

 

07 May 2024 22:28:10
I have a lot of time for Rene Meulensteen as a coach, very knowledgeable.

These are his comments
"It is really incomprehensible what is happening now. There is simply no progress whatsoever. You know as a new trainer you always have to deal with a selection that you have not put together yourself. I always say a trainer needs 18 months to get it right, to get on track. But now there is none of that optimism left. There is no playing style, club culture or philosophy. If you look at the statistics it doesn't make any sense. Manchester United had a goal difference of minus three. " Then when asked about ETH banning the press he said "That is really not smart. The media of course have the right to ask questions"

My opinion not Rene, managers spend ages telling everyone not to listen to the press so why ban them when their opinion doesn't matter, it tells the players it does matter and they will read and wonder if it's true. Doubt grows.

Scholes and now Rene.

Red Man

1.) 07 May 2024 23:10:24
Apparently Jose wants the job if the press are to be believed …. I mean I can’t see it happening in a million years, but I quite liked him at Utd….


2.) 07 May 2024 23:33:19
There are a lot of highly qualified and respected people all saying the same thing.

Regardless of injuries we should be playing better and with more heart. We are not adapting to the situation well and using the injuries as an excuse.

It has been said 1000’s of times. There are managers out there that would get a better tune out of this team. There are teams out there with worse players (on paper) who have shown us a clean pair of heels.

Something is wrong. Do I know who or where? Hell no! But there are people who do and need to get this ridiculous situation under control quickly.


3.) 08 May 2024 01:18:54
Stop it, Eric ?.


4.) 08 May 2024 03:43:31
I’d prefer Jose to Ten Haag.

As Ten Haag apologists love to point out, it’s difficult for a manager to succeed without a proper structure in place above them. Despite this, Jose won us a European trophy and finished second in the league (two things that by his own admission, Ten Haag will not be able to achieve next season) . Image what he could do if properly supported.


5.) 08 May 2024 05:34:53
might as well read Ashley Youngs take on Jose too. Too defensive minded and the players did not like his tactics and some did not put in all the effort. Mourinho is not a good choice imo.


6.) 08 May 2024 07:07:04
This isn’t the first time that Rene Meulensteen has come out with something to say at this stage of the cycle. He’s a hindsight genius trying to stay relevant.


7.) 08 May 2024 07:09:53
It was at the home game v Seville, with Jose in charge, that I decided not to come back to OT until he’s gone.

Jose played the worse football I’ve ever seen at Old Trafford. I rank it lower than anything we’ve seen recently, or even under Ole.


8.) 08 May 2024 07:12:26
Player power is the problem and has been for quite some time.

They can down tools and stop trying and just sit back, get paid and wait until the manager gets sacked.


9.) 08 May 2024 08:49:24
But my question is, why under different managers and different players for the last decade plus, has our club seem to impacted the most by players downing tools, being tactically inept, playing poor football? What is it about our whole culture that’s so wrong?

Would love to hear some opinion on that from posters and Eds alike.


10.) 08 May 2024 09:22:22
I’d take Jose back in a heartbeat, didn’t want him to leave last time.


11.) 08 May 2024 10:04:52
Moyes is free too.


12.) 08 May 2024 11:08:25
Rene, this brilliant coach, what's he at these days? Take no notice.

Worse thing that happened to ETH was how well he did last year.

This club is a cesspit.


13.) 08 May 2024 11:19:55
It will be a lot better when eth is gone thankfully angel.
You do know he is going and won't be manager next season so then the hope can return.


14.) 08 May 2024 12:21:43
Angel

Are you also going to say Scholes is wrong too?


15.) 08 May 2024 13:20:03
I was disappointed that Jose didn’t make more of an effort to adapt his style of play to better fit the attacking ethos of the club, but there will still plenty of entertaining games during his tenure. It’s a similar story with Ole, really. Not a great fit, but still a hell of a lot better than Ten Haag will ever be. And yeah, with a better structure, I dare say that either could get us competing again, even if there are better candidates out there.


16.) 08 May 2024 13:41:51
I agree on Jose.
I was disappointed he didn't embrace uniteds traditions more than he did redseven.
But he should also have resigned (I think he did mentally) the day the window shut and they kept pogba and martial and Shaw against his wishes. ( but I can totally understand him waiting for his big pay off)
I think he has been by far our best manager since fergie.
We probably got him just past his best, he has achieved very little since he left here either at spurs and roma.
Not sure he has 1 more top job in him at club level. If I was the FA I'd be looking to make him England Manager.


17.) 08 May 2024 14:12:37
Sadly, Ken, I think you may be right. The game has moved on quite a bit since his glory days, but his tactics remain stuck in the past.

Part of me would love to see him get another shot at the big time just to see if he has it in to adapt, and I wouldn’t be against him being given that shot with us (as per my last post, I’d take just about anybody over Ten Haag) . Realistically, though, I expect he’ll probably end up in the Saudi league rather than at another big club.

Would love to see him take the England job. His football may be negative at times, but unlike Southgate, he at least knows how to win trophies.


18.) 08 May 2024 14:30:36
Mourinho was a master of the dark arts. I always remember him gouging the eye of an opposition assistant manager whilst at Madrid more than anything. Not the kind of style I'd like at my team. But hey when it works why not lol. Just don't think he's got it in him any more.


19.) 08 May 2024 16:19:38
Agree spenno. I think an intl team would benefit greatly from his know how and experience.
But the rigours of everyday with this generation are too much now I think.


20.) 08 May 2024 18:14:51
Scholes is almost always correct isn't he redman? What a pundit haha.


21.) 08 May 2024 18:16:22
You got insight on that ken yeah? ?

Lads have fully lost the plot on here. Every post ken ?.


22.) 08 May 2024 19:30:31
Was Jose good? 6th and 2nd in his two full seasons, Ole managed 3rd and 2nd in his two full seasons.

Did Jose embrace the club and our traditions? Did he play offensive/ entertaining football? No.

Did he work to develop our youth players? No.


 

 

26 Apr 2024 17:42:52
I just read that ETH banned three Newspapers from his press conference today. One of which is Manchesters main evening newspaper. Really do not think that is a good strategy banning the main local paper. You can't change opinion by banning them.

Red Man

1.) 26 Apr 2024 18:52:37
I believe they were banned from asking questions Red Man!

Samuel Luckhurst openly called for EtH to be sacked after the Coventry game.

Are journalists there to provide the facts or give their opinion now?

It’s unprofessional for the Chief Correspondent of the local paper, to call for a manager to be sacked. It’s not his decision, his opinion is no more valid than anyone else and the majority of this fan base still remain behind the manager.

Results and SJR will ultimately dictate the managers fate not the baseless opinion of a journalist more interested in printing their opinion than reporting the facts and then crying because they can’t ask a couple of questions in a Press Conference. He’s made his pitch he must now face the consequences. What’s EtH got to lose?


2.) 26 Apr 2024 18:55:46
SAF banned newspapers. Fans loved it. I guess the fans didn’t desperately want SAF out so easy to change your standards.


3.) 26 Apr 2024 21:23:16
Dude. Lay off and let him be. Not everything the man does needs to be ridiculed with such confirmation bias.


4.) 26 Apr 2024 22:48:28
Redman

You are so bitter man. Stop looking for a negative angle on everything. Have some respect for a guy who manages the club you supposedly love. It is so out of line what some of this stuff these twats are writing and saying. I respect the guy for standing his ground whether he is here next year or not. pathetic honestly pathetic.

6 games to go give it a rest. Jesus.


5.) 27 Apr 2024 03:25:59
You only see the bad in him now red man. I am very happy for him to ban them. They are poison around the club and have clearly had an agenda against him for a long time. We win an FA cup semi final and you would think we lost 5-0.

Still waiting to read a hatchet job on poch, don't hear much about him in the main papers.


 

 

 

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24 Jul 2024 07:03:37
I commented a few times on Bruno last season, similar to GDS. I think he worked in a false 9 because there was no tactical discipline needed. Our shape wasn’t affected when he ran out of position. It meant he wasn’t making recovery runs, because he was out of position, then giving away dangerous fouls around our area.
He gives the ball away when trying things but it is less dangerous further forward than when he is in the middle of the park. The way forward must see us playing as an 11, not 10 plus Bruno.

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01 May 2024 21:36:30
It may be a small point, but at the recent games I went to Heaton and Bayandir came out to warm up and did the usual goalkeeping warm ups. However Onana spent time controlling balls hit back to him and then he was hitting passes out to coaches on the halfway line. Strange that we don’t have a consistent method through all the keepers and Onana had such a warm up session, then gives goals away by doing this.

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25 Apr 2024 07:42:21
Heaven help us if it is Southgate, more years in the shadows oncoming.

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05 Apr 2024 16:59:40
I would rather ETH stayed than appoint Southgate. Awful choice.

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19 Mar 2024 19:46:51
If SJR knows his history, then he should know that Sir Matt’s influence around OT caused issues for years, maybe he knows what Liverpool did with Shankly.

Southgate and listening to SAF would be very worrying. We MUST move away from SAF influence.

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21 Jul 2024 17:02:47
Wazza

They were not clamouring for Amad on here last season.

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21 Jul 2024 10:18:54
We have two inexperienced strikers, but interesting Wheatley is now at an age where he may step up a level, some do some don’t, we will see. The club are actively and allegedly trying to sign the lad from Arsenal youth who seemed to be a goalscorer and that is a positive if it happens.
Two things for me. Not seen Zirkzee but he is untried when we already have little experience of goal scoring in the club. I would probably have looked for a more experienced striker. Secondly, we buy these tall strikers but don’t cross the ball. That’s a negative for me. Other teams cross it a lot, City create by manouvering fullbacks, overload and cross. We just pass it back. More emphasis needs to be using a crossed ball, then winning it back if not successful. We are playing chess on a football field. What’s the point in having strikers if they don’t get service. That must change this season.

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21 Jul 2024 10:08:09
If Oyedele was the no4 in the second half, he looked good to me, natural and assured, felt like he belonged. Yoro at 18 looks natural and assured. Where did Murray at left back come from? Not really tested but nice balance. Amass, nice touches going forward, but defensively physically light just yet and positioning needs experience. Collyer is raw but may have something, we need to get Ugarte in but give the lad Collyer some time in up coming games that will be more difficult, then we may know more.

Amad looks so much better than Antony. I spent a lot of time last season saying he should get a chance, sorry that told you so comment came out again. However, he glides with the ball very naturally, I watched him at Sunderland and he flows with the ball in control at full pace. The club was a mess when they allowed £85m to be spent on useless Antony when we had Amad, Garnacho, even Pellestri on the books.

Lastly, when we get the defence lined up it has to push up 10 yards and give Onana room, this playing around on our own goal line is nuts.

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16 Jul 2024 19:16:45
Thing with Southgate is that he didn’t learn. Three years ago Italy, go one nil up and sit back fail to press our advantage. Spain, equalise, on the attack, have the momentum and then we send a throw in from level with their six yard line back to the half way, then back to our keeper who then boots it out. Negative mind set. What might have been with Southgate will never be known. Great managers like SAF roll the dice, take a chance go for the win. Southgate didn’t dare lose. We keep missing out because in one way or another the manager hasn’t been good enough., Southgate was diminished by his inability to go for it. Sunday was a totally clear example of that. Yet again a favourable draw all the way to the final, thrown away because the manager was too afraid.
Yes two finals and a semi, well done but we didn’t win when it mattered. Yes took us from serial failures at Quarter final to getting further with some of the best talent but still losing. We now have a more unified squad, better media profile but no one thought to tell Southgate he should be more positive and his bosses at the FA are accountable for that.
Southgate must never be manager of United, ever.

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14 Jul 2024 18:04:40
AJH
I agree, hard to understand another inexperienced centre forward. I can only hope the scouting is spot on.

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