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22 May 2025 08:39:06
We can't waste loads of money we don't have on players to fit RA system. He'll be gone by Christmas, then what?
I like him, he has the personality but sadly this insistence on the formation that he's unwilling to change "no matter what" will be his downfall. Every manager knows exactly what they're coming up against, makes us easy to play.
No plan B.
As for last night, to change nothing for 70 minutes was criminal. What was he seeing? Mount, Hoijland, Casimero all awful and should have been off at half time.
Garnacho will leave now and can't blame him. Probably Bruno too.
Can't beat the worst Spurs team in decades, says it all really.
Fuming.

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{Ed025's Note - for me Will Amorim has to go, nobody was expecting miracles but to regress to such depths is just not on, its not just the results mate its the manner in which you are losing and for me he is out of his depth, im all for giving managers time but there has to at least be a spark or a vision of what he can achieve....but i get nothing, do you really want money thrown on players who are going to be sticking plasters to a system that obviously doesn,t work?, get rid now and start again with a manager who knows the premier league even if its a short term contract and get back to basics, now im not a big fan of Southgate but i really think you could do a lot worse....like Amorim..


1.) 22 May 2025 09:10:35
I really like Thomas frank…agree with the post and Ed’s comments. One thing though is that the comments last night, ones in recent weeks and the story’s that he offered to resign in January time make me think he wants out. The club clearly a bigger mess than he thought and he didn’t actually want to come until the summer anyway. Maybe a bit of self sabatage who knows. It’s a crap situation to be in, unfortunately we are in it way too many times.


2.) 22 May 2025 09:33:23
I do agree that we've gone backwards. The complete refusal to adapt is not a strength for me, it's a flaw. But I don't think he's going anywhere, all we can do is strap in and hold on for dear life.
If he were to go I would like to see someone like Iraola. Someone who has experience of this league and has overachieved with what they've got at their disposal, not underachieves. We're bad, but no way should we have been flirting with the relegation spots.


3.) 22 May 2025 09:34:06
Ed025 I hear you, I have been very vocal on here about the massive deficiencies within his coaching and it's arguably the worst we have ever seen from united barring our relegation season.

But I've had a good sleep and calmed down after that abject performance last night.

However, call me crazy, but this is THEIR guy, their choice and therefore they have to back him, allow him the window, bring in a couple of players. He has a vision and a way of playing and he is so convinced that it will work.

We have nothing to lose in giving him time, affording him that. No doubt he is a good coach and he is on a massive learning curve but I feel like the club will give him that. Anything is better than this now.

So they will sell, bring in quality, Cunha etc and next year won't be as bad. I don't believe we will hit the dizzy heights of champions League qualification ? but anything in around 4-8th and it will be progression particularly if we see a clear method of playing.

I just can't see us putting another plaster over a big gaping hole.

Leave him there, he sounds so confident that he knows what is required (I believe him) and I believe the people above him know it too. I didn't think we would suffer this much but this problem is bigger than any coach we have had over the last few years.

Amorim is young and hungry. Let him do his thing with this footballing structure in place.

{Ed025's Note - for me Angel its a case of we have made a mistake and we realize we picked the wrong guy so we are going to change it, you cant give this fella a transfer kitty to blow on players who only suit his vision of a football utopia that only exists in Amorims head mate, its actually not his fault he actually thinks he can build a successful team at United but i think we all know thats pie in the sky, this is not the time for experimentation its time to react to what is making one of the biggest clubs in the world a laughing stock mate...this is not football manager (the game)..


4.) 22 May 2025 10:04:46
Ed, I completely agree, see post below ?.


5.) 22 May 2025 10:22:00
On the flip side the good news is that Palace/ Wolves/ West Ham play the same or a variation on a back 3, so maybe we can bring in Potter after all if things don't work out and he'll have a ready-made team :D.


6.) 22 May 2025 10:27:59
I also think it's a mistake Ed. I think the system he wants actually makes these players worse than they already are, it prevents natural instincts and I'm not sure all players are behind this manager or system. He has to go for me.

{Ed025's Note - sadly i think thats the case as well Banjo, give me something.... anything that says "you know this could work" and i would say yeah give him some more time, the fact is that there is nothing mate..


7.) 22 May 2025 11:58:48
Who says it don’t work, whatever formation he plays if you got a forward line that can’t score a goal and a GK that’s a nightmare and slow ponderous CBs with very little in midfield, what system does that work then!

All this system blame is over the top and just a stick to beat RA with.

If you have championship quality players on huge money trying to play high level, you’re not winning anything.

It’s only Bruno and an aging Cass in this team who are at a required level, that’s ok if the other 9 could at least do a job at the required level

From day one Rasmus looked hopeless and Zirkee, Onana the same along with Ugarte, Garnacho is one trick pony nowadays, Pep would win nothing with this squad.

The reality is the players bought under ETH are woeful, no system will mask that.


8.) 22 May 2025 12:47:21
Spot on German.

The system isn’t the issue, this team has played multiple systems the fact is they are just not very good.

Other than a few there needs to be as much ruthless given to the squad as they did when they got rid of the office staff and the dinner staff to save on money.


We will be playing 1 game a week next season, that squad needs trimming down big time.


9.) 22 May 2025 19:13:49
They were 4 points off 4th when RA took over, alive in 4 cup competition and over half a season remaining. We weren't great but when this system got introduced we couldn't beat anyone.
"There are many poets in football but poets don't win titles" Jose.


 

 

27 Dec 2023 15:29:16
So pleased for Hojlund. Can see what it meant to him.
With Erikson coming back, Shaw back, Garnacho on the right and even Rashford starting to cross the ball more maybe now he'll get some service and show us what he can do.

Great second half performance, hopefully that is going to give us some confidence going forward. We have to build on this now, no excuses.

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1.) 27 Dec 2023 17:30:40
As it seems ten hag doesn't learn from the positives, i can see Garnacho back on the left the next game.


2.) 27 Dec 2023 17:54:56
Not seen a player have such a release of emotion since that mad baldy lad from Newcastle kicked the be jaysus out of the advertising boards.
Love seeing how much it meant to him and then all.
5 or 6 teenagers played for us yesterday 6 or 7 academy players that's pretty amazing. They showed more effort and passion than we've seen from most of what the club have blown 1.3 billion on.

OK 3 or 4 were only on for 10 mind or so, but nevertheless, it's quiet extradinary.
For me it's no coincidence that eth has fallen out or challenged most of the highest earners in the squad.

Ddg sancho varane cassimero poking rashford. The club and squad can like most others only afford so many superstars on the biggest money. Ours were are not delivering enough value for the biggest money in the main they are not making the difference their wages demand. He needs to move them on and like he will get all off the books.


3.) 27 Dec 2023 19:36:59
Ketsbia?


4.) 27 Dec 2023 20:11:23
If Casemiro is poking Rashford, he needs to go as soon as possible.


5.) 27 Dec 2023 21:41:59
No wonder it looks like his head has been elsewhere AJH!


6.) 27 Dec 2023 23:11:38
Is there any indication that they are poking Rashford mates? Or it’s simply a rumour?


7.) 27 Dec 2023 23:46:07
That's the fella fzzz. He went nuts. he'd be sent off for it now and be cancelled for cruelty to hoardings?.


8.) 28 Dec 2023 06:43:36
You guys read way too many things into stuff that is a nothing burger. Players like Varrane, Rash, Maguire get dropped because their form is poor. It happens at every club and most players want to play and don't like it and will not be happy sitting on the bench. Pep is a master at this and does not give a s. t

I have read so many times the managers has fav but eth does not seem to care or have fav. if you are doing the business he wants you to do, you play otherwise you are a bench warmer. He cares none for what we think and who should start or play where, evident by Mc playing almost every game recently.

Some players do look for a move and some fight their way back into the squad. Valdeverde and Rodrygo were struggling to get minutes in the second part of the season last year and form wise were poor if you watch any of the Madrid games, they are both back and starting most games.

All this stuff about Varrane and Cas going in Jan is noise and bs imo and not fringe players that you can sell and replace in Jan.

We will be busy and desperate to move Sancho and DVB as a priority in the coming window and may see a final decision on greenwood. some additional loans out depending on what our injuries look like is probably on the cards. The only thing that would change that is if we are forced to move on a long term target that we may lose to another team that we deem a must get.

Todibo is a player that seems to get mentioned a lot and may force us to make a move although personally prefer Tapsoda from Leverkusen but I suspect very expensive.

Come summer it will be a different story and I suspect we will see an overhaul.


9.) 28 Dec 2023 10:05:51
I hope you’re right. The right back office structure and team supporting ETH with the correct signings and backing will be a huge difference in my view.


10.) 28 Dec 2023 13:12:18
Seeing how much it meant to Hojlund just highlights how much pressure he must be under to perform. He clearly is trying his best and giving everything, through a combination of poor service and his own for fluctuating (probably due to pressure and confidence) he hasn't been able to find the back of the net in the EPL until the Villa game half-way through the season.

I'm so pleased for him, and hope he can maybe go on a bit of a scoring run now.

The frustrating thing is that for the most part he's done all the right things. He works hard and presses well from the front, his off the ball movement is good. But so many times I've seen our players either not pass to him, or more frustratingly nip in front of him to steal the shot practically off his toe (more often than not missing as well) . McTominay did it the other week with his headed goal, literally ran in and took the ball off of Hojlund's forehead.

It's like the team don't know how to play with him yet, they aren't releasing the ball when he makes his runs, or they are too focused on cutting in and shooting themselves ignoring Hojlund unmarked in a better position, or when a ball is played into him someone cuts it out to shoot themselves.

I can't imagine how frustrating that must be for him, especially with the pressure of a massive transfer fee hanging over him. Although the way he celebrated that goal shows it has been eating away at him. Even better that his first goal was the winner in a 3-2 turnaround. A deserving goal.


 

 

23 Sep 2023 22:20:14
Jonny Evans take a bow. Outstanding tonight. Massive result, 1 we desperately needed. Our season starts here.

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17 Jan 2021 11:30:45
So Excited for today. It's an amazing opportunity to go 6 points clear. I just hope we go for it. We're no good at playing for a draw.

Pogba has to play in the form he's showing. Although Scott and Fred are his go to pairing for the big games so not sure who and in what formation he's going to go with. Hope Rash is on the left and Cavani up top. Maybe drop Martial for this one, nice to have him and Greenwood on the bench should we need them.

Whoever plays I'm behind them 100% and would be great to shut the scousers up for a while.
Cmon boys!

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1.) 17 Jan 2021 11:47:30
Nervous and excited at the same time.
Lets hope we can continue our form of late.


2.) 17 Jan 2021 13:10:06
It would be some achievement to be the first team to win in the league at Anfield since St. George's Day 2017. 2017! Incredible. But just maybe, without fans, with Liverpool's defence in disarray, with United's away form and a few key players starting to come good. who knows!


3.) 17 Jan 2021 13:47:20
Let's hope so spenno the stars seem aligned.


 

 

02 Jan 2021 10:32:18
Ole has had so much stick in the press and on here. Yet here we are joint top of the league.
Some of the stick he's had was perhaps warranted but the majority was way over the top and a lot of it embarrassing.
We weren't match fit when the league started but now we are we're getting the results.
We are also playing the best, most exciting football since SAF left.
He got the stick so now he deserves the credit, yet he doesn't seem to be getting it.

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1.) 02 Jan 2021 11:23:11
Mate we needed 1 points from 2 games in Ucl to progress through and are now in the Europa. So the stick Ole got was definitely warranted. Maybe some of the things said against him has been over the top but the criticism he got can't be labelled unjust. We are joint top of the league but a part of it is because of a tipsy-turby season affected by the C.V. and a bit of luck on the injury and C.V. front.

WHATEVER might be the reason for us being up there in the table but i think its time we start believing in title challenges, cause we're in one :)


2.) 02 Jan 2021 11:55:56
I think he is getting the credit from most people.
In the current season in the epl over the last 10 games we Are the team getting the best results.
The beginning to or season was a shambles as was our cl exit.
But now we find ourselves in a cup semi 1 leg at home against city and joint top of the league.
The results and reaction since cl exit has been great. Ole has juggled an awful fixture list and came out undefeated and winning most of our games. Nobody else did as well.
He deserves full credit for that as do the players.
Im very much enjoying competing. Only time will tell If what were are seeing now is oles preferred style and it wins ill be delighted with that. i'd prefer a different for dominant agressive style but if ole can sustain the results his way than that's just great.
Hopefully we can remain competitive for the whole season and come out on top.
Imo competing comes first i hope we see some evolution in our game.
This is a good squad and are getting the results now that they should be getting.
Keep the results coming and watch the cracks appear elsewhere.
The coaches manager and players have worked hard to get into this position midway through the season.
They have earned themselves an opportunity. Opportunity knocks.


3.) 02 Jan 2021 12:10:43
Don't forget last season we got beat of the scouse in January then won 11 drew 4 of our next 15 league games to finished 3rd .
Since ole has come in we have moved a few out and started to build a decent squad .
Been playing well and picking up points for 12 month, need to continue that.


4.) 02 Jan 2021 13:45:08
Maybe Ole is the guy who gets rid if the deadwood for Woodward lol.

Credit is due where credit is earned. The past few games have been an improvement. Most importantly, enjoyable to watch.


5.) 02 Jan 2021 17:19:04
I think Ole takes a lot of credit and i would say more than he deserves. This is a season with a lot of games and less time to prepare for games, i don't deny that even in this period (ofcourse) coaches play their part. But more than ever players express themselves this season and we are lucky that he don't have injuries to key players like Liverpool a new team like Chelsea and to have a true leader like Bruno which is one of the best players in the league the past year in current form, if not the best. We have a strong squad with squad depth (althought its far from perfect) and a leader like Bruno who has contribution in 52% (;) of our goals.
We can all agree that althought we have a very good squad we will suffer if we wouldn't have Bruno. Good coaches make good teams who don't rely so much on individual greatness. I know you don't like my opinion but that's my opinion and didn't change because we are tie with Liverpools. That said, ofcourse i like the title challenge and i want nothing more to be champions like you all.


6.) 02 Jan 2021 17:30:13
Top players make a difference to any team.


7.) 02 Jan 2021 17:35:15
But not having your top player doesn't make you so much worst like us. Unless you rely so much on him.


8.) 02 Jan 2021 17:44:14
Herrera how have you judged that?


9.) 02 Jan 2021 17:50:52
Maybe the results pre and after Bruno arrived? Except that can't you see the difference he make and that we rely too much?
You want the same conversation over and over? If you can't understand or you don't agree don't bother. You made your opinion clear, things aren't so bad (and i agree) etc etc. Why are you think that always its your responsibility to defend the coach? Just move on.


10.) 02 Jan 2021 18:40:19
Much prefer watching utd to city style. Pep teams bore me - especially this year.

Liverpool have been seriously effected by injuries.

Jose is turning tottenham into a borefest.

Chelsea tend to be a good watch.


11.) 02 Jan 2021 18:57:20
City are struggling with out aguero.


12.) 02 Jan 2021 19:08:36
Very few teams suffer when their most important player is out.


13.) 02 Jan 2021 19:19:54
I agree on Pep, i don't like his football this year too. I think when everything is in place he is playing good football. This year that's not the case.


14.) 02 Jan 2021 21:03:57
Really Ken? You think Liverpool doesn't struggle without VVD? Or that they wouldn't struggle without Salah? Villa without Grealish? Sure, he means a lot to us, but we can't just compare time before and after him. Before he was here, we had some serious injuries. Also, he was here in the begining of this season, and we were bad.
Anyway, if your point is that we need one or two more star players, I would agree, who wouldnt? Also, I hope Rashford, Martial or Greenwood could grow into star players, but we just have to wait.


 

 

 

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02 Sep 2025 21:32:04
He has all the attributes to be a top keeper. In some ways following Onana makes it easier for him. He's allowed the odd mistake just not 2 a game.

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19 Aug 2018 10:31:23
Football is not just about pace Shan. Mata is class in every way and a valuable member of our squad.

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21 Aug 2017 17:39:03
Blind rarely let's us down. What he lacks in pace he makes up in positioning and reading of the game. Also tidy on the ball.
A very good back up and utility player for me.
Doesn't deserve th stick.

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04 Oct 2025 20:01:17
BMENA red

He's created more chances than any other player in the league since his debut. By far. In a poor Utd side.

I'd be more worried about your own playmaker who you paid 115 million for. 0 goals, 0 assists.
Half a billion spent this summer and the cracks are starting to show.

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27 Sep 2025 17:30:51
Glasner plays a back 3 though.

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27 Sep 2025 17:23:38
God no not Southgate!

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02 Sep 2025 21:33:58
We've had some shocking signings in the last 10 years but he's right up there with Sancho and Onana as the worst ever.

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30 Aug 2025 21:54:29
Tbf I struggle to play at my best when I need a crap.

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