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17 Jul 2022 14:15:08
Question for Ed002 if you're around. Any chance of us making a move for Depay this summer if Ronaldo leaves?

redseven

{Ed002's Note - No he is heading elsewhere.}


1.) 17 Jul 2022 16:06:42
Where?


2.) 17 Jul 2022 16:55:07
Looks to maybe be Spurs?


3.) 17 Jul 2022 17:14:28
I would assume Spurs Fireman.


4.) 17 Jul 2022 18:10:12
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5.) 17 Jul 2022 23:41:54
Thanks, Ed. Think he’s ready for the EPL now, so can see him being a bit of a bargain for somebody. Shame it won’t be us. A front three of Rashford, Sancho, and Depay could be interesting. I’d much rather him than Anthony.


6.) 18 Jul 2022 09:42:13
He’s had two cracks at playing at an elite level with us and Barcelona and been found wanting. Plus the whole circus show that follows him. Not for me.


7.) 18 Jul 2022 13:45:17
If ever there was a player to sign for spurs it's Memphis, dunno why but he is the most spurs like player ever??.


 

 

31 Aug 2021 13:57:00
Martial to PSG rumors starting to come in. Could be a good move for all involved.

redseven

{Ed077's Note - except PSG 😂😂. Although I would think it improbable at this stage of the window


1.) 31 Aug 2021 14:04:42
Really depends on whether Real come back with another bid for Mbappe. One has to suspect that PSG are hoping that they will though. I know they’re rolling in cash and Mbappe is a top player, but €180m + wages is a ridiculous amount to pay/ lose for the sake of one more season. If he goes, I can see them scrambling to spend the money on Martial and/ or Pogba, which may allow us to bring in a MF. Mendez is apparently working on the deal as an intermediary, although apparently we’re not overly keen.


2.) 31 Aug 2021 15:40:06
Did Tony start those rumors?


3.) 31 Aug 2021 19:05:23
Martial has more chance of signing for Melchester Rovers today than PSG. Sulkychops is here to stay sadly. Frustrating as we know there’s a talented lad there. Just doesn’t show it anywhere often enough!


4.) 31 Aug 2021 19:32:13
I can only see Martial playing in the league cup and fa cup this year unless we have a lot of injuries.

If we want a chance of winning anything this year the left side has to be rotated between Pogba and Rashford, the right between Greenwood and Sancho, the number 10 between Fernandes and maybe Lingard and CF between Ronaldo and Cavani. Rotating these players in each position doesn't significantly alter the quality in my eyes, it is CM that the issue still is.

McFred isn't ideal but it gets the best out of Pogba being on the left and let's the front 4 and full backs do what they do going forward, well maybe not AWB so much.

We always look worse with Pogba in the centre or when Matic comes in which is why we needed an upgrade there, however it was a pretty good window so hopefully CM will be addressed in Jan or next Summer 🤞🤷‍♂️.


5.) 01 Sep 2021 02:35:07
The front 4 options are incredible, and you didn't mention DvdB, Amad, Elanga, Martial. Crazy.

Lindelof and Bailly as reserve CBs

Our squad is stacked.

I actually like McT and Fred surrounded by this team, I am concerned when they can't play. I HOPE McTom and DvdB play together and create something new, I can see Scotty having the physicality height and field coverage to play well with Donny. He needs to be a bit more disciplined.

I think we will suprise a few non believers this year, we could pull it off. The league is very strong, be tough for anyone to win this year.


6.) 01 Sep 2021 17:55:51
I just don't see DVDB getting much league and CL game time again for whatever reason Dodgy, and Amad and Elanga will only be cup players on the whole I think and won't get many league or CL run outs.

I agree those 3 are very good players and add to the rest nicely, I just included the players I see playing plenty of league and CL games. Hopefully Martial isn't one of them, unless he stops being a moody, sulky baby and puts the required effort in.


 

 

07 Apr 2021 11:43:01
Question for Ed002, if you're around.

You mentioned recently that we may look to a more experienced striker like Benzema this summer as a stop gap of sorts and I was wondering if Aguero may be an option in that regard.

Reports today are suggesting that he wants to stay in the Premier League and would consider offers from Chelsea or Spurs. I'm aware of the animosity between United and City, but surely we could afford to pay more than either club, can all buy guarantee Champion's League football next season and our Manchester location means that he wouldn't have to relocate his family half way across the country.

Have we or he expressed any interest in making a deal?

redseven

{Ed002's Note - No, Aguero won't be moving to Manchester United.}


1.) 07 Apr 2021 13:53:37
Shame, Aguero and DDG are good friends and he would have been a nice stop gap for us.


2.) 07 Apr 2021 15:27:51
There is a good chance neither of them will be in Manchester come the start of next season.


3.) 07 Apr 2021 20:07:32
I wouldn't be surprised to see both back in Spain next year. If DDG does want to go, let's hope we don't make the same mistake as we did with Romero.


4.) 07 Apr 2021 21:48:59
Romero is very handsomely paid to sit on a bench every week.


5.) 08 Apr 2021 15:35:08
Still got that sinking feeling that Giroud is a candidate in this area. A scorer of great goals, but not a great scorer of goals, and you get the feeling Tuchel will be bringing in his own CF this summer (maybe Aguerro) .

{Ed077's Note - Giroud isnt a bad player for me. He would be a decent back up option but I am starting to think we need a starting ST.

Aguero to Chelsea? Improbable IMO.}


 

 

23 Jan 2021 02:58:30
Hi Ed002. Any truth to the reports stating that we've offered to take Eriksen on loan until the end of the season?

redseven

{Ed002's Note - Christian Eriksen (AM) Borussia Dortmund may offer a solution at the right price. Again PSG will look to an exchange with Leandro Paredes but Inter will again ask for some cash on top of any transaction but may be willing to forego that to resolve the situation. He is being offered to other sides as well with his return to Spurs, possibly on loan initially, being considered if Dele Alli were to depart. Christian Eriksen is seen as an option to Grealish by OGS but it makes no sense until the Pogba and Van de Beek issues are resolved and no offer has been submitted. It is difficult to see how he would fit in to the team as it stands right now. Leicester want a loan but cannot afford the wages.


1.) 23 Jan 2021 12:55:05
Pleased to see we are still thinking of Grealish - I’d love to see us adopt the Bayern model of buying up the best domestic league talent.

I’m not sure where exactly he would fit into the side but a player of that quality has to play.


2.) 23 Jan 2021 13:52:05
Looking at the current form Grealish will easily replace Rashy on the left. He can also help to rotate Bruno at no 10.


3.) 23 Jan 2021 14:07:25
Form is temporary mate.

I could only see Grealish being played off the right or in a very attacking midfield 3 alongside Fernandes and a defensive midfielder. It would be exciting viewing, reminiscent to Xavi and Iniesta.


4.) 23 Jan 2021 15:02:55
Xavi and Iniesta had nothing to do with a very attacking midfielder. They were first of all good at possession, their job was to control games. Grealish and Fernandez as a pair are totally different kind of players.


5.) 23 Jan 2021 18:52:28
Wash your mouth out Fresh!


6.) 23 Jan 2021 19:34:55
Agree with Herrera. Grealish and Bruno I don’t think could play central together unless we had an absolute beast of a DM. And for me grealish despite rashford form right now does not displace him.


7.) 24 Jan 2021 11:18:38
You would need an avenger to play dm in a midfield with bruno and grealish to cover defensively.


8.) 24 Jan 2021 12:07:43
lol DSG. Thankfully we are interested in Rice, Zakaria and Saul.
Either one would be another step towards high quality.


9.) 24 Jan 2021 14:36:10
I'd go for ndidi if we are looking for a cdm. I love watching him play.


 

 

05 Oct 2020 11:04:57
Cavani and Telles have both signed. Expect a deal for Dembele to come through late in the day after Dortmund reject our €120m bid.

redseven

1.) 05 Oct 2020 11:08:32
Hope you’re wrong. What I want to know is why Sancho (who is apparently unwell) has been out of the Dortmund squad for over a week and is currently in the UK. What is going on. Is it really unrealistic to think our terrible PR team have kept this all under wraps and will in fact announce Sancho this afternoon?


2.) 05 Oct 2020 11:13:58
would be peak woodward to bid what dortmund wanted all window to then be told to do one.


3.) 05 Oct 2020 11:18:27
Find it funny how so many United fans seem to not want dembele and the majority of Barcelona fans don't want to lose him.

On his day one of the best players in the world and a fast attacking style like ours would be a better fit for him than Barcelona who's play doesn't require players to be quick

Ed's already said it's a possibility I hope we are trying to make this one happen.


4.) 05 Oct 2020 11:18:41
Sancho not happening, deal went dead a while back, probably even if we offer the full amount today. Sancho is at St George's Park at the moment getting a C.V. test. Dembele, Cavani and Tellas will be the only signings today.


5.) 05 Oct 2020 11:29:29
O. Dembele's camp have come out and said he won't leave Barcelona today. He wants to stay there and fight for his place.


6.) 05 Oct 2020 11:32:22
Dembele off according to multiple reports.


7.) 05 Oct 2020 11:34:04
Sancho broke quarantine earlier in the year to go to UK for a haircut apparently, left out of squad in last 3 games due to challenge and is at a party in UK. might not be the best role model if true.


8.) 05 Oct 2020 11:38:32
I suppose Dembele could keep Tuanzebe company throughout this season.


9.) 05 Oct 2020 12:08:25
Sancho is trying to push the move too, or at least he will if and when a bid goes it.
Points re: Dembele, on his day, yes he’s great but we can say the same about Pogba. We need consistency, no more gambles.


 

 

 

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27 Jun 2022 01:10:18
Rumors that Barcelona asked for Harry Maguire to be included in the FDJ deal. If that weren't ridiculous enough already, apparently we turned it down. Now I really have heard it all.

redseven

1.) 27 Jun 2022 02:43:22
From the sun, so no story in all probability.


2.) 27 Jun 2022 06:48:10
Really depends on what the deal was.

What was his value in the deal, did they want to knock 10m off in exchange for Maguire?

Personally I'd take anything to move him on. I don't think he has the intelligence or the mobility to play how EtH looks to play. While the whole captaincy issue with him is a headache I think EtH can do without.

Keep his as captain then you have an ineffectual captain. The way the squad just gave up last season shows Maguire isn't fit to lead. Yet if you take the captaincy away from him then you could potentially provide a split in the dressing room.

Personally I think Rangnick's preference for allowing the squad to pick their captain might be a clever one. You are less likely to create a split that way, and at least know that the captain has the support of the majority of the dressing room.


3.) 27 Jun 2022 08:53:29
I’d have chucked Maguire in for free as a sweetener! He isn’t good enough, that simple.


4.) 27 Jun 2022 08:28:49
Im pretty sure Arsenal allowed the players to pick their captains and ended up with xhaka and aubameyang. i bet there are good examples of it working also but this is the main one I've heard about with this idea.


5.) 27 Jun 2022 08:59:28
It's an awful idea then you might not get the captain you want a manager.
Whomever is carousing should be the managers choice imo.
Otherwise it's a case of the tail wagging the dog.
If it was a settled squad and unified like City then it might be different. But even then my understanding is the squad are given 3 options to choose from selected by the manager.
In eth's position I can't think of a worse idea but that's a personal opinion.
Maybe that's one of the reasons why RR is such a failed manager. That philosophy had never brought him any success.


6.) 27 Jun 2022 09:18:57
Ken, is RR a failed manager?


7.) 27 Jun 2022 09:37:01
angelred - yes he was.


8.) 27 Jun 2022 09:44:18
Yes angel he has never won anything of note to the best of my knowledge nor has he ever coached an elite club team until he came to united.
Awful managerial record.


9.) 27 Jun 2022 09:45:27
Agreed Brooks I can't think of a worse idea for any new manager.


10.) 27 Jun 2022 10:06:11
Keep Maguire as captain but never actually play him, he can do the pre match coin toss and post match interviews but doesn't actually have to play.


11.) 27 Jun 2022 10:43:49
The Barcelona looking at Maguire was first voiced about 6 weeks back and laughed off as the obvious very late April Fools joke it seemed but apparently there was some legs to it. Ten Hag clearly sees something in Maguire that we (largely) don’t. He had an atrocious season. He’s a good header and his long passing isn’t bad to be fair but his lack of pace, especially in a more attacking / risk-taking Ten Hag style will surely be found out?

I think like many if someone offered half of what we paid for Maguire I’d snap their hand off. However we are in that period where we just have to trust the new manager.

A lot of us are frustrated at lack of signings compared to our rivals but I do think we’ve already made the signing of the summer in Ten Hag. I just hope he’s given the time he needs.


12.) 27 Jun 2022 11:47:33
I watched a really good tactical breakdown video of us under Ole and RR last season. One thing that stood out is that Maguire gets pulled out of position very very easily, he can't resist pressing up into midfield rather than holding his line which creates a massive gap between the LB and RCB, this was a large contributing factor to our conceded goals last season. Teams appear to bait Maguire with this trap.

It was actually a really interesting piece and highlighted how structurally and statistically we improved under RR in the 2nd half of the season BUT a number of players essentially actively tried to look busy whilst not doing much.

One player I'm interested to see under EtH is Bruno as his passing play over the last two seasons doesn't really fit with how EtH plays. Also without the ball he's one of the players highlighted to look busy but not offer much.


13.) 27 Jun 2022 12:09:37
Nothing wrong with the team choosing the captain. I played for 40+ years including 20 at a reasonable level and in most of those the team chose the captain. Not only should he be the leader on and off the park but also the players representative with the coaching staff. Having the manager choose the captain results in choices like Maguire. Do you think the team would have chosen that clown? I doubt it. There is also the risk that the managerial chosen captain is perceived the teachers pet and can cause ill feeling.

But that just my humble opinion.


14.) 27 Jun 2022 12:26:57
Couldn't disagree more keefy.
Let's let the staff pick the ceo next and the head scout.


15.) 27 Jun 2022 12:28:00
Rewz, That is the really issue with Maguire. A lot of people talk about his lack of pace or mobility, which obviously aren't ideal. However, many defenders have been truly world class without a turn of pace or are not the most mobile.

The nature of a centre back tends to be that they are taller and physically larger, the trade off to those traits is that it means their acceleration is slower and they aren't as mobile.

The real problem with Maguire is he is a headless chicken. His lack of pace and mobility wouldn't be a problem if he was in the right position.

But he wanders off into midfield and tries to win balls back aggressively that aren't there to be won.

For me the only system that can mitigate Maguires weaknesses is a back three system which means there is less space left behind him when he wanders off. The two remaining CB's can shuffle across to keep the gaps to a manageable size.

I think he would actually look pretty good at either Spurs or Chelsea, not world class, but not a complete donkey either.

Bruno I think will be fine, but I understand the concerns over him. Even in EtH's side not every player will look to make the safe pass that retains possession. Tadic was never a "safe" player, yet he adapted wonderfully to EtH's system.

Bruno also plays deeper and with less pressure to make things happen for Portugal. I wonder how much of Bruno trying to force risky passes over the past 2 years is more down to a lack of movement and good passing options ahead of him with our forward.

As for his "pointless" work rate, it might just be that he is a player happy to press amongst players who didn't press. In football an effective press MUST be done as a team. Bruno has shown willing, if his team mates stepped up and pressed with him then maybe his pressing wouldn't be considered pointless.


16.) 27 Jun 2022 12:54:04
Good points shappy.
These players have not had an elite professional environment to work in many of them since they signed for the club.
A good manager has a team plan that all players must adhere to.
Under ole players did what they liked when they liked and this days are gone
All our players will improve this season.


17.) 27 Jun 2022 13:31:00
Ken, while I think EtH will at times make concessions for the players at his disposal, he is much more a system oriented coach as opposed to a player oriented coach.

Much more a case of "this is how we play, you need to do this in this situation and that in that situation" rather than a case of putting good players together and entrusting them to figure it out.

Some player will adapt to it in time, some will take to it like a duck to water, others will struggle and fall by the wayside.

The important thing is the manager is backed throughout his entire time at the club. It doesn't matter what the name or how much a player cost, if they can't play the way he needs them to play then the club need to move them on. Get them out the squad, don't leave them there discontented and causing a bad atmosphere.

Personally from the outside looking in there are a few players who stand out as players I really think will struggle with the type of systems EtH used at Ajax and Utrecht.

His style requires players who can read the game and adapt and change their role depending on the situation in game.

In defence for example, Timber and Martinez line up as the CB's, but they also rotate round to be playing as a full back at times, or step into midfield.

My concerns are over players who lack in technical ability and tactical intelligence.

Maguire, AWB and Shaw are players who tend to play more on instinct than making intelligent decisions though good reading of the game.

They all might struggle, as the demands on them will increase and they will need to play more with their head than they ever have.

In midfield Fred and McTominay might struggle for different reasons. Fred isn't the best technically and can have a loose touch. While McTominay seems to struggle with his positioning in the build up. Often one of our CB's have the ball and McTominay is standing in the opposition CF shadow effectively marking himself out of the game. Good coaching could fix that, its also important to remember the played youth football at CF or No.10 and never as a holding midfielder, so he's probably only ever had a small amount of coaching under Jose on playing that position.

Let wait and see though, maybe with top class coaching those players might surprise a few of us.

What excites me most is for the first time in many years we have a younger up and coming top class coach whose ideas and style fit well with the current football landscape, and the progressive nature our club is synonymous with.

Is he the right manager? Only time will tell, but he is the right profile of manager.

Exciting times.


18.) 27 Jun 2022 14:32:43
Wouldn't have minded to be a failure like him ?.


19.) 27 Jun 2022 14:53:28
Angel he won nothing I think your more ambitious than that.
He had not been a financial failure just a coaching one.


20.) 27 Jun 2022 15:20:31
Makes it a shame that his actual expertise wasn't used in the one area the clubs needs the most!


21.) 27 Jun 2022 15:32:41
What the club needs most is a team that performs on the pitch and a coach that can make that work.
Owners have not been found wanting in investing in players. They spend more than anybody else. Never forget that.
But too many folk get caught up in stuff they either don't understand or know anything about.
Concentrate on the football. If that goes well the capability to invest in the infrastructure will improve. Its not rocket science.
Don't forget it's their money and they can do with they like with it. But they cannot be accused of not providing funds for the team.


22.) 27 Jun 2022 16:38:46
I understand ken, but I think it's been long known and said by eds on here that they are amateurs.

Would've been good to keep him.


23.) 27 Jun 2022 16:43:03
Eth didn't want to work with him therefore he had to go.
Be patient angel.


24.) 27 Jun 2022 16:44:54
To use your thought process I wouldn't mind being armatures as successful as our owners.
Too many people are jealous of their position as owners. If it was so easy why didn't you or others do what they did.
Simply because they are smarter than the average bear.


25.) 27 Jun 2022 18:16:17
Hey Shappy,

If we were to get De Jong and a CDM such as Sangare, do you think it would help Maguire be less likely to get pulled out of position by offering more protection?

Also, do we have any fullbacks in the squad/ youth teams that can move into the inverted Position (more CM) EtH likes his fullbacks to pick up during build up?

The more I research the systems that EtH has utilised the more I’m excited to see what he can do. I can see Sancho really kicking on for us next season having been in a team that uses pressing traps and build up structure similarly to those used by EtH teams. I can see why he wants De Jong primarily as this type of player is imperative for how he likes to build up and transition. I can see why he wants Antony as we are predictable, most of the time attacking down the left. Fullbacks I can see being an issue as ours don’t really fit.


26.) 27 Jun 2022 19:04:03
Rewz, simply the club can't afford to fix every issue EtH is likely to have this summer.

So there will be positions we know are weak or could be a problem but can't do anything about until next summer at the earliest.

I don't think there are any midfielders we could buy that would stop Maguire constantly having brain farts.

He doesn't just move into empty space, he has one numerous occasions just charged out and got in the way of one of our midfielders rather than leave it to them.

He did the same thing at Leicester but a combination of Evans and Chilwell along with Ndidi would cover for him.

Maybe EtH can coach him to stop doing it, yet I doubt it as I don't think Maguire has the intelligence to understand what he is doing wrong, let alone the common sense to learn from it. He's 29 years old, he isn't a green kid who's still wet behind the ears. He's a seasoned professional, with over 10 years experience at the highest level both domestically and internationally.

Dalot could easily play the inverted role, and would be easy to coach it I feel.

Shaw in theory has the skillset to do it, but does he have the intelligence?

We have young players in Laird and Fernandez who should be malleable enough for EtH to educate and develop his ideas into their progression.


27.) 27 Jun 2022 19:21:25
I think it's the ones who run the club that are the amateurs, because the glazers aren't lol.

That's where my logic is applies.

Glazers care about commercial, I think that's the only side that has been run right. Footballing? Let's have a look at the last 10 years.

ETH, great coach, but will only be as good as those at top willing to do right. Jose was good, LVG before him, all proper footballing men. Club didn't give them what was needed, therefore they went.


28.) 27 Jun 2022 19:22:57
Patience is something I have for ETH, just not the rest of them.


29.) 27 Jun 2022 20:29:09
I hear you mate.


30.) 27 Jun 2022 21:35:09
Love your optimism though pal. And I hope to the high heavens you're right.

He is a couple of signings, possibly the emergence of Donny, and a few tactical changes away. Football is a funny old game.

And for all the crap we played at the end of last season, we weren't a million miles off top 4 so who knows.


31.) 27 Jun 2022 22:00:14
I think the captain is a slightly different consideration than the CEO or coaching staff Ken. Taking the discussion a bit far there.

I have always allowed my teams to choose their captain. Whether you agree or disagree it has for the most part been successful with a team that respects the captain.

I do agree though that it could mean the “staff” choose a weaker option but having the manager chose Maguire was a roaring success eh!

I am with you!00% that we need to have confidence in our new manager and hope he is given time to get his ethic across.


32.) 28 Jun 2022 00:26:35
No worries keefy and yes I was stretching the point.
However our dressing room is divided so then choosing is a mess in the making.
But if the manager chooses then if your not behind the captain your not behind the manager.
What if the majority vote for maguire and he's not in the team.
Or ronaldo loses out to mctominay by a vote?
Nah can't let the lunatics run the asylum on this one.
Imo the captain is the managers man he should echo the words and standards of the manager. Never ever not be aligned unless behind closed doors.
Others see the captain as the players man, their voice, their buffer between the staff and the players.
That's not my view of a captain I'm very much of the former view.
But imo the really great captains are all of the former but the squad believe he is the latter.
Great captains have the trust of the manager and are respected by the squad not chosen by them.


33.) 28 Jun 2022 08:24:59
Agree Ken. 100 %. With the current fractured playing group it is one time it could and probably would significantly backfire. Agree also that the captain should have the managers back. That is absolutely the baggage he must carry. The great captains just like NCO’s in the forces are the driving force. They filter the crap from above to make it more palatable.

There is also your point that with the current squad any player selected either by the team or manager would be a mess.

In the days of Fergie I would imagine that the players and manager would have agreed on the captains as they all played for the shirt not the money so anyone theoretically could have been captain.

However history has shown that the likes of Robson, Keane, Cantona etc. were clearly no brainer decisions.

Anyway. Let’s hope ETH can create a unified dressing room and we all move on from this conjecture eh!


 

 

05 Mar 2022 15:37:23
Fair play to Sevilla and Lopetegui. Martial has only been there for a little over a month and yet they've already figured out that he's not good enough. It took the clowns in charge at United more than half a decade to figure that out.

redseven

1.) 06 Mar 2022 08:30:08
Someone gave him a new contract, decided he was Lukaku’s replacement. The shocking decisions made. RR is absolutely right what he has been saying about player buying decisions, there again he could have been reading what a couple of us have been writing on here for years!


2.) 06 Mar 2022 08:41:56
Could have used him mind considering Cavani doesn't feel like turning up for work, Ronaldo is losing his battle with father time and Raahford looks increasingly amateurish.

Not saying Martial is perfect but our forward options are pretty poor until the end of the season.


 

 

15 Sep 2021 03:13:11
Yet another example of Ole's poor in game management last night. Granted, we were down to ten men, but the decision to drop deep and defend a one goal lead for 65 minutes is ultimately what cost us the game.

Ronaldo needed to come off the moment AWB did, but instead Ole opts to take off Sancho - the only player in our starting 11 with the pace to catch them on the counter - lumping the ball forward to a 36 year old who was completely isolated and lacked the pace to do anything with it if he did somehow get the ball under control. What's more, he lacks the pace and stamina to drop back and help out in times of need.

Worse teams have been able to hold on to leads with ten men against much better opposition, yet despite having five defenders and three midfielders on the pitch for much of the second half we just couldn't keep hold of the ball. All credit to young boys though; they exploited Ole's non-existent tactics and deservedly got the three points. Tbh, I thought they looked the better team when both teams had 11 men.

On a side note, the Ronaldo signing has been great for the club, but none more so than Jadon Sancho. Were it not for Ronaldo (and Ole's poor management) people would probably be starting to point to the fact that we're now five or six games in and our £76m signing is yet to contribute anything meaningful. I'm sure he'll come good eventually, but, in the mean time, Ronaldo and his goals are serving as an excellent distraction and will hopefully be eleviating some of the pressure on Sancho's shoulders.

redseven

1.) 15 Sep 2021 03:54:59
The biggest mistake Ole made was not bring on Bailly.
All we needed is another defender.
Imagine 4 CBs, 2 fullbacks and 2 DMs.
What a lineup that would be.


 

 

28 Aug 2021 15:17:50
Romano now claiming that we're happy with Dalot as our backup right back and will not be selling him, so looks like a CM or nothing between now and deadline day.

Given the window we've had so far, I feel like a spoiled brat for saying this, but if we want to compete, I think we should be moving heaven and earth to sign one. I just can't see us winning anything with McFred no matter how good the rest of the team is. I'd love to be proven wrong, but would love it a whole lot more if we just signed somebody like Ndidi!

redseven

1.) 28 Aug 2021 15:52:46
We would have been okay without ronaldo.
But even SAF said before when players like RVP or ronaldo are available you make space.
Midfielder should have been part of the original plan and I really hope we sign one up.


2.) 28 Aug 2021 15:58:42
Cant win anything with McFred and Matic legs have gone. Noises again today Pogba wants Madrid move so surely we plan ahead? DVB is possibly seen as Pogba replacement, but with Saul and Bissouma possibly available at decent prices we should be all over one of them.


3.) 28 Aug 2021 16:02:15
This isn't true, just posted on rumours page.


 

 

28 Aug 2021 14:44:05
So the Ronaldo signing has finally started to sink in and I have mixed feelings. For the most part I'm delighted that he's coming home, but there's also a part of me that would have preferred him to stay at Juve or sign for PSG instead. Of course, that will change very quickly if he picks up where he left off when he left, but it's definitely a bit of a gamble on the club's part.

If it's true we'll be paying him £470k a week, I can see this causing issues further down the line. We're currently trying to renew Pogba's contract and so it wouldn't be too surprising if his demands shoot up a little now that he knows the club are willing to push past the £400k mark. The same goes for Bruno, although given that DDG, Varane and Sancho are all earning between £375k and £400k a week, he arguably deserves it.

I'm not too worried about Ronaldo taking game time away from our younger players as I think that with a little bit of rotation there should be more than enough minutes to go around between him, Rashford, Sancho, Greenwood and Cavani. Cavani is going to miss 5-10 games through isolation and injury anyway, as too is Rash. Ronaldo himself has only once managed to take part in all 38 league games in a season once in his entire career, so I expect him to miss about as many, if not more.

Where I do see some issues arising is when it comes to penalties and free-kicks. His record from the spot isn't terrible, but it's nowhere near as good as Bruno's. Free kicks are another story though. He's scored some fantastic ones over the years, but his conversion rate is and has always been fairly shocking. As such, I can see him costing us a few goals in this way over the next few seasons. He also has a tendency to shoot unsuccessfully from range, although, to his credit, has become a little less selfish in recent years.

Thankfully, I think he'll score far more than he'll waste. Whether he's a massive step up over Cavani when it comes to finishing is a matter for debate, but given that Cavani will likely miss quite a few games this season, having a clinical finisher like Ronaldo available can only be a good thing. He's definitely a much better finisher than Martial and, like Cavani, could teach our younger players a thing or two about movement and positioning.

Another area where he'll prove valuable is through his experience, leadership and winning mentality. I've already seen people call for him to be made captain, but whether he is or he isn't shouldn't really matter. He doesn't need an armband to demand the best from his team mates and will do so whenever he feels that he needs to. I think this is where we'll see the bulk of his value on the pitch rather than through his goals. Of course, I'd prefer it if we got both.

Then there's the impact that the signing has on the United brand. I know we won't make much more money from shirt sales, but it definitely puts us in a stronger position when it comes to negotiating new sponsorship deals. GOAT or not, he's probably the most marketable player in the world (his announcement Tweet got more likes and retweets and likes in less than 1 hour than Messi's did in 2 weeks plus) and will lead to increased revenue for the club in both quantifiable and unquantifiable ways.

He could also prove to be decisive when it comes to our attempt to sign Haaland next summer. Ronaldo is his hero, after all, and the prospect of playing alongside him for a year (as well as with his good friend Sancho and under the manager who gave him his first big break in football) could make all the difference. Maybe not, but I do think he makes us a more desirable club either way.

Some might feel that we'd have been better off spending the money on a top drawer CDM rather than a 36 year old striker and in some ways I'm inclined to agree. Had we signed Ndidi instead, for example, I'd be putting a cheeky fiver on us to win the title, but as is, I'm not confident we'll finish in the top three. When all's said and done though, I do think that Ronaldo improves both our starting 11, our squad, and our club, which is more than can be said for a lot of our post SAF signings.

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1.) 28 Aug 2021 15:21:15
Greenwood, Rashford, Sancho, Elanga and many others, watch and learn. What set Ronaldo apart was his work ethic and his desire to be the best. The guy out worked all his peers and became the GOAT because of it.

When he first joined, who would have thought he would become one of the best headers of a football?

These guys need to watch Ronny, watch Cavani and take every little bit they can from them.

Never stop improving. Never stop working. Never stop learning. Having those two to learn from is a huge privilege. The competition to play, the masters of movement and desire to learn from. Conditions are right for some of these guys to become the best in the world.


2.) 28 Aug 2021 15:51:36
We will win the title unless Ole fs it up.


3.) 28 Aug 2021 17:04:56
Singh,

I don’t think it’s that easy tbh, City have a great squad as do Chelsea, Ronaldo doesn’t guarantee us the title, he means we should at least challenge.


 

 

 

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13 Aug 2022 06:45:51
Both Rabiot and Icardi would dramatically improve our team if Ten Hag can keep them both focused on their football. I still think we’d need another midfielder to have any hope of finishing in the top 4, mind.

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08 Aug 2022 13:32:19
MA is 33 years old and would be just as inept at pressing as Ronaldo. I’d rather we brought through a youngster or signed somebody like Sesko than drop £10m+ on a stop gap player who doesn’t fit the manager’s system. We really should have signed Darwin when we had the chance….

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08 Aug 2022 12:42:13
A lot of reports now saying that we’ve agreed a deal for Rabiot. Looks like the pursuit of De Jong is finally over.

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21 Jul 2022 13:47:52
Spenno is correct, I did mean Moussa. As for what Dembele and Depay have done, the former has banged in 75 goals in 167 league appearances since leaving Old Trafford and also has an international goals per game ratio that’s higher than England’s record scorer. As for Dembele, he’s notched 10 league goals or more in six of the past seven seasons, netting 79 league goals in his last 166 games. Both are proven goal scorers, both are consistent and both would hit the ground running. Most importantly though, both would cost around a third of the price of Anthony:

I’m not saying that Anthony is a bad player, but he’s only really had one good season and that was in the Dutch league. For some of the prices being quoted for him, we could have signed a CB, a CDM and a forward player in Nathan Colins, Bissouma, and either Depay or Dembele. All of those players would likely settle in much faster than Anthony too given that Colins and Bissouma are already based in the UK and Depay and Dembele have lived/ played here before.

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20 Jul 2022 23:41:06
Not a chance. I’d much rather we went for Depay or Dembele instead. Both are available, would cost about a third of what Ajax would want for Anthony (maybe less) and have proven themselves over multiple seasons and in multiple teams and leagues.

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18 Aug 2022 03:58:18
It’s hard to imagine a worse owner than the Glazers. That said, talk of a buyout couldn’t have come at a worse time. If the Glazers really are open to selling the club, they’ll have very little incentive to invest any more (of the club’s) money in player acquisitions during the remaining few weeks of the transfer window. If that’s the case, we’ll be stuck with McFred until at least January, by which point I could see Ten Haag getting the boot.

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15 Aug 2022 08:52:13
To be fair, Thiago is one of the most injury prone players around and missed around half of Liverpool’s games through injury during his first two seasons at the club. That’s only going to get worse over the next few years of his Liverpool contract, by the end of which he will be 33.

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13 Aug 2022 06:50:23
Aside from his agent/ mother being difficult to deal with, I haven’t heard too much about Rabiot being a particularly problematic player. Iirc, he was only frozen out at PSG after making it clear that he wouldn’t be signing a new contract due to them not playing him enough. To that end, I don’t see how anybody could fault a promising young player for looking to move clubs in order to get more game time.

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09 Aug 2022 17:49:50
According to Ed002, Darwin was open to signing for us at the start of the window. At one point I believe we were even in pole position. Sadly, the board ended up dithering trying to push through a deal for a player who never wanted to sign for the club (and has repeatedly stated as much) and we ended up with neither.

I appreciate that Ten Haag will need time, but he really hasn’t gotten off to a good start. The money is clearly there to be spent (as evidenced by us dropping €40m on Rojo 2.0), so he needs to be providing the board with a list of realistic targets rather than pinning all of his hopes on De Jong and then panicking when the same players that were god awful last season continue to be god awful.

Other clubs have shown this window that quality players can be purchased for reasonable prices, yet Ten Haag’s insistence on us signing De Jong has led to them all slipping through our fingers, with only the likes of Rabiot and Arnautovich remaining.

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08 Aug 2022 13:34:40
We must have been watching a different game. Martinez got ran ragged by Welbeck and was incredibly lucky to not give away a penalty for a very blatant foul in the box.

The only player who earned their pay yesterday was Eriksen, though I can’t for the life of me figure out why he wasn’t on corner duty given the quality of his deliveries.

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