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05 Oct 2025 07:08:21
I’m the first to admit one win changes very little. Although I hope we now have some potential stability in goal. It seems a a long while since we’ve had that.

What is very pleasing is the INEOS noises suggesting Amorim has the season. He’s the right man at the right time. Very much in the fight for European places. January is a big transfer window. Next summer bigger still. Despite the nonsensical Amorim out brigade, I remain very optimistic we’re on the right path.

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05 Oct 2025 08:33:16
Lammens did look confident, and you could see he was constantly talking to the players. Very positive signs!

It's not nonsensical; it's fans wanting us to be more competitive and to be more consistent. It's also looking at his results and saying it's simply not good enough.

None of us wake up in the morning and want Amorim to fail. I would love for him to succeed, not have to go through the cycle of changing managers again and again. It's exhausting. But that doesn't mean I'll give him my unwavering support like others here seem to have. He needs to earn that, and after his first 32 games, he certainly doesn't deserve it (yet) .

Let's hope he can turn a corner and grind out some consistent results. It's good to see some players returning from injury. That should certainly help his cause.

05 Oct 2025 09:01:13
Still not confident in amorim by any means but I do hope he starts to win and get results never want to see a manager sacked.
He has 2 positives yesterday starting lammens and yoro and tbh dropping Cunha was another we look far better with mount and casemiro in the team.
I think mount is the player who makes the team better because he acts nearly as the third midfielder.
I think amorim should drop Shaw now and start heaven tbh he needs his best played playing.

05 Oct 2025 09:18:26
Fully agree with you again BRD.

05 Oct 2025 10:02:14
Less goalkeeping errors = more wins so onwards and upwards. Nothing so far has given me hope the manager will succeed. Do i want him to fail? Hell no, he knows what’s wrong (playerwise, getting rid of wasters) he just needs to fix it.

05 Oct 2025 10:42:11
I think most fans allow their emotions to rule their heads most of the time.

We had/ have the hardest opening run of fixtures, are a team that is trying to rebuild and find some rhythm, had unfortunately only been able to bring in a new keeper and striker (two key positions) late in the window, meaning neither player had a pre-season with us and were not up to speed for the first 5-6 games, as well as having a few key injuries (I know every team gets them, but we lack the quality in depth to handle them more than most) . Despite all that we have played better football, and there are positive signs. The results will come as will more complete performances.

We have to accept that we are still very early in this rebuilding process, we were never going to be able to fix every problem this summer. Therefore, we were always going to have areas of weakness that will cost us points this season. Yes the manager has had several new player bought to aid him, yet he is still mostly having to rely on players who historically haven't been good enough for us over the past 5 years or so.

We chose to go for a systems manager over a pragmatist manager, when you do that it will always take longer to get results as they need the right players to fit that system. We still need a couple of midfielders, another wing back and probably another CB just to have the right players for a starting 11, let alone players for squad depth to cover for rotation/ suspension/ injuries.

Finally, many of our most promising players are still very young, and with that comes inconsistency. Players like Lammens, Yoro, Dorgu, Amad, Mainoo, and Sesko are young and inexperienced and will struggle with consistency. With many of them playing either a key role or in key positions. They are all 2-3 years away from being ready and able to put in consistent high quality performances.

05 Oct 2025 10:50:05
Dropped in just to see what. comments come after a solid win

Unsurprisingly one positive comment woth a little bit of endorsement.

But still the drivel and illogical nonsense about Amorim having had 30 plus games.

Its like saying Jos Verstappen was rubbish when driving in F1 in a Fiat 500, and now he's managed to upgrade to a porsche he should still be winning the F1 championship

With less than half a team hired that he specifically stated BEPORE he took the job, he now had a 50 percent win rate in the league this season having already played 3 of the previous top 4. Saying ypu hope he succeeds but still want him out if it isn't a spectacular success is exactly why you're bemoaning so many managers.

At what point are you going to stop whining, bit the bullet, accept we aren't in the fergie years (of which the first 7 were utter shyte and than the lord Kurtis and co weren't around then) we would never have even sen the fergoe years if these sort of buffoons had their way, toxic, entitled and utterly delusional on the reality of our starting point.

Kind a sick. of saying the same thing, but its not going to be Utd competing for 2 more years. That's called realism. There is a ton of work to do yet, a host of players to get rid of, and that takes time, money and to some degree luck as well. Not all signings will pay off, so it may take longer to swap them out and replace them. Get real. We are going to be up against it between now and Christmas, and we have to have a solid winter window where at least 2 players are brought in, one at DM and one at RWB so we aren't reliant on Dalot who is a disaster on both flanks.

Even then we only have half a team. There is much to be done, and we should judge the guy when the team is complete, not half baked like most of the comments in this forum.

05 Oct 2025 11:32:00
Nail firmly hit on the head, there, Captain.

05 Oct 2025 11:39:23
We are 2 penalty misses from Fernandes this season from being in the top 4, 2 points off top of the league.

05 Oct 2025 12:00:34
I’m genuinely curious CaptainObvious — what are your actual metrics for success then? Should fans just sit quietly for three years, no matter how performances look, and never question anything until then?

And let’s be real — the whole “toxic fans” argument has become a lazy deflection. The irony is that it’s usually the same people throwing that word around who make this place unbearable for anyone who doesn’t agree with them. You don’t get to call people toxic just because they’re not singing from your hymn sheet.

Nobody’s denying Amorim inherited a mess or that he needs time — but plenty of managers have gone into struggling teams and made an immediate, visible impact. Expecting signs of direction and improvement isn’t entitlement; it’s the minimum standard at a club of this size.

05 Oct 2025 13:27:54
Kurtis. You seriously think trying to rebuild United is comparable to managers improving Brighton, Palace, Forrest, Bournemouth, Villa, Sunderland or even Spurs? GIVE ME A BREAK.

None of us in here can comprehend trying to deal with the toxic ( ‘like this post if you want Amorim sacked’ on X ) messaging coming his way. Every match is a Cup Final for the opposition. The media onslaught has been vile. No other manager has pitch-fork waving ex-players to deal with. Amorim has been nothing short of superb so far despite given all of this.

He’s honest. Analytical. Has a plan and methodology he believes in - so everybody has to sing from the same sheet. He is passionate. He has a track record of winning. He’s managed the club at its rock bottom in terms of overpaid divas. He’s got them out. The club is revamping its buy young policy. Amorim is no doubt learning a new set of skills to manage the giant that is United.

But, despite all of this, there is still a core to the squad that is not good enough. The game right now is squad turnover. It has to be done at pace so that the new players don’t succumb to the lethargic approach that prevailed.

I love, with a passion, the way he got rid of Garnacho. Academy player. A winger no less. So no small decision. He has the ruthless streak of SAF. Every supporter in that ground should sing his name.

05 Oct 2025 13:33:46
It's not a job any football manager should want. but would never be able to turn down.
Only ever a couple of defeats from intense pressure.
Had Utd lost yesterday he'd probably be on the brink and with it being international week it might have swayed a decision.
But we win and all's good. Nice to see a little rotation up top and for Sesko to get another. We need 1-2 strong midfield signings in the next window or two. Maybe a few out like Dalot/ Shaw. But otherwise I think it's a strong squad. Shoot me down lol.
Onwards and upwards!

05 Oct 2025 13:57:11
KurtisHaywood, you're defining signs of improvement narrowly. There are multiple metrics that show there is improvement but because results are still volatile those metrics are completely discounted. We've had two really bad performances this year - Grimsby and Brentford. The Grimsby one went off the rails due to a horrific goalkeeping display that has ended Onana's career at the club. Brentford, as I mentioned elsewhere, was an Amorim error. He chose too many poor players and didn't make the obvious changes when he should have. In the other games we've been been good - even against City there were good signs. You seem to want a linear trajectory and that's not reasonable given the turnover in players. We've had a really tough opening sequence of games, but if you really don't see we're way better offensively now with Cunha, Mbeumo, Sesko, Mount (and I'd highlight the system suits Mount) . Amad is adapting at RWB.

Your comparison to other managers going in and getting immediate improvement is fine, but I'd argue that in most of those cases the teams regress after a spell, and they aren't trying to do what we're doing, ie build a side capable of winning the league. That involves a root branch change. It is incredibly disruptive and can cause volatile results in the short term. The managers that get that immediate uplift almost never turn those clubs into league winners.

So I'm with CaptainObvious in his critique . I think there is way too much negativity and short term thinking here. Look at Liverpool. For everyone talking about how great they've been, some of us have spoken about how they had been massively overperforming their underlying metrics. So it's no surprise to see them regress a bit. They will sort it out as they've good players. But the point remains that those underlying metrics tend to be better predictors of long term results than the short term results.

05 Oct 2025 15:36:54
BRD / DonRed – both valid points, and I genuinely appreciate the proper discussion.

Maybe I’m taking it a bit personally, but every time I (and others) try to voice our reservations about Amorim or question whether he’s the right manager, it gets met with the same tired line — “Oh, it’s the same old toxic fans. ”

Most of us who’ve raised concerns have done so with facts, observations, and personal interpretations of where the club’s at. There’s been no “Like this if you hate Amorim” nonsense — people here generally respect each other’s opinions, and this isn’t a troll page.

Yet we’re constantly labelled as toxic, delusional, or negative simply for voicing doubts. Nobody has to agree, and debate is healthy — but it’s the same few who keep making sly remarks and acting like they’re on some pedestal above everyone else who doesn’t share their view. That’s the part that gets frustrating.

05 Oct 2025 15:56:31
Fair shout Kurtis. From my part your comments are perfectly fine. I think there are a couple of ardent naysayers here who focus on formations and so on without rationalising why a change would be better, or just resorting to tired arguments that aren't founded in logic. I accept I may be wrong about Amorim but, I think like you, I'll base a change in opinion on evidence rather than some stuff about the clipboard that Amorim uses or some other things like that I've seen here.
Debates like this thread are the lifeblood of a forum like this and I appreciate the proper discussion too.

05 Oct 2025 16:10:11
Maybe you should respect their right to have their opinion on your opinion.
The issue is your perception of how some write their opinions and rebuttals.
Writers are not responsible for your perception or feelings.
There is no tone gathered from the written words .
Maybe you are perceiving sly digs that are unintended. i'm sure some are intended but that's OK imo if they are OTT they won't get posted.

05 Oct 2025 19:04:08
Kurtis - Never meant to label anybody in here as toxic. I'm looking at the wider social media arena. Everybody in here backs up their opinions with strong arguments - and there are arguments on both sides that stand up for keeping/ sacking. Part of my reasoning is that we have to break the rinse/ repeat process of new managers. At some point we have to put a steak in the ground, and for me Amorim is it. He has many likeable qualities - though I conceed his selections and substitutions can be baffling.

Toxicity for me defines the idiots on social media trying to boost their engagement at Amorim's expense. That and the toxic ex-players - Rooney in particular has ground my gears with some of his opinions. Him and Neville have shown they couldn't manage a raffle yet spout their own management ideas on where Ruben is going wrong.

05 Oct 2025 19:04:16
The facts are still that RA not won 2 on the trot, got lowest % win rate of any United manager only got 1 way of playing, changed CBs 44 times out of 50 and in game management is poor, talks a good game, but there is zero evidence he can walk the walk at United.

Ineos are probably working on a replacement as we speak and RA can have no complaints, I would have loved him to succeed, but not a cat in hells chance any manager with just 1 solitary way of playing will succeed in this league, even Pep changes, Slow won league last year he is changing too, you got to evolve and it appears RA knows absolutely no other way, that’s my concern.

05 Oct 2025 19:19:55
Kurtis, I'm going to straight up call it as I see it.
Over the last few weeks/ months where there has been persistent calls for Amorim to roll on here by an evergrowing group of followers, you have been more vocal for his head as the masses have assembled.

That said, of all the naysayers you seem a very level headed poster and willing to digest comments and have a discussion. Others, that are literally incapable of doing so, are the toxic fans. So I retract my comment calling you toxic, but maintain that the posters who are literally nowhere to be seen currently are toxic.

Think about it, and you will rattle off maybe 10 posters who have been banding together to bring misery to this site say in day out and spread a narrative of sack Amorim. They are currently muted, and I hope we can go on a prolonged period so that they remain that way, as overall they bring naff all to this site.

05 Oct 2025 19:55:38
Those 10 posters might be the same person though Jimbobred ?.

05 Oct 2025 19:58:37
There not much toxicity on here thankfully bar the odd troll. Good safe space for us who are passionate about football and Utd to voice our views, often differing which is awesome.

I really Amorim and his passionate attitude, always have and always said it. I just can’t see how he’s going to turn this around - there are just not enough positive signs. And as I’ve always said, I hope I’m so wrong, and get a good dose of told you so by Amorim’s biggest supporters.

05 Oct 2025 20:46:47
I get and share a lot of the frustrations. I posted weeks ago that there are lots of good but some less likeable things at the moment.
Look how difficult Liverpool are finding it to adjust to new players and style city likewise and they are coming grim a much stronger base. Chelsea are the same.
While a don't expect any team to dominate i think in the 2nd half of the season a couple of teams will breakaway leaving a close enough 6 team race for the club positions. All I'm hoping for is to be in that 6 and if we get couple of signings in Jan then why not hope for that?
I see more incisive play in terms of creating good opportunities.
Ive only seen lammens play the once but if he proves to be solid then don't underestimate the positive impact that will have on the whole team.
I see players really working hard. Nobody is slacking and that for me is step 1.
Due to how the manager wants to play we still have a few square pegs in round holes so you just have to hope we can hang on to the tail coats of the chasing pack until we get a couple of reinforcements in this Jan.
If we are not in that mix he might not get the money to spend and then unless he gets Europe with what he has then is the time to evaluate. Imo.

06 Oct 2025 00:02:52
Popped in after a while. Think this is a great example of the kind of thread one really likes, because of the nuance - there are two clearly opposing views, and I found myself nodding in agreement to both of them, because both have very well reasoned arguments.

06 Oct 2025 13:17:53
Kuetiw, how do I measure success. Well in some aspects emotionally and some with an approach of balanced realism.
Do I look forward to United games now woth a belief we are going to win, as opposed to having a bizarre impact ding sense of negativity and dread the closer we got to a weekend, even dreaming up ways to maybe be busy so I might miss thw start of a match or even the whole thing tha ks to Ten Hag, and Ole, then yes.

The performances this season with only a few players coming in is absolutely night and day compared to last season, woth the same manager with none of the tools he needed to get the job done. Hence for me, his role as coach started this season. Not last. Because last season he was coaching players who weren't good enough, either skill wose or more importantly mentality wise.

He got rid of half the bad apples but let's be honest he's still got some two faced scumbags in his squad, who come out in support of him but brief behind his back for their own benefit the minute they sense blood, all brought on by media driven narrative from Merson and Carragher, who dress up 'punditry' rather than the deliberate lambasted of any united manager, desperate to see yet more turmoil amd change with a superficial and utterly transparent pretence of actually wanting to see a better united team. Yeah, bollox, turkeys don't vote for Christmas. They both see that their own teams only began to perform after several years of stability, so the fact that we have fans coming on here that either don't grasp that, or feel the same way through impatience just really gets on my wick, and that's why I state that its toxic.

You're impatient. You're negative, and you're unrealistic. You seem to be eother driven by media stats and repeat them parrot like without even sa timing whether they're in any way useful or balanced or that support your insistence he's not the man for the job.

You have repeatedly led calls for him to be out, and I strongly disagree. I don't know what ypu expect after a single transfer window.

But again. Look at Ten Hags first window, massively overpaid for utter shyte, like absolute shyte, and set the club back years, not only through massive loss in resale values but also through a total lack of what those players were supposed to contribute on the pitch. It was the worst football I have ever seen united play and I remember Dave Sexton, so count yourself lucky.

What's bizarre is I dotn ever remember you opining.

06 Oct 2025 13:42:24
Sorry. mistakenly pressed send. Please add to post,

that Ten Hag should go. The new signings have been excellent for the most part so early into being able to gel woth the team. 2 of them only signing at the end of the window.

Getting a tune out of Mount, the improvement in Dorgu since he started, and prepping for more change is impressive.

Do I like seeing us lose? He'll no of course not. Do I expect us to lose a good few games whilst we only have half a team, and a quarter. of a proper squad? Hell yes, obviously. We aren't able or ready to cha3nge for anything yet.

Yes McGuure has saved us a few times in games, but he's still cost us far more than he's saved us, he's so damn slow and can't read runs even now at 32. So whos going to impeove Yoro or Heaven? that's still a problem. I hope we go for Mark Guehi in Jan, and blow everyone out the water. He can lead a line, and lead a defence. Harry got left behind because rather than lead a line he couldn't even read a line of youngsters knowing better than him there was danger and an easy offside to gain and yet he cost us the goal and definitely a win. Appalling and a liability. Dalot the same, too many times caught in transition doing the wrong thing at the wrong time. Ugarte is the same. Woeful judgment in their positions. There's 3 liabilities he is still carrying who are capable at any moment of ruining your progress. Upsetting momentum. Then there's Shaw, but i'm in a good mood so I can't be bothered with that conversation, I surely don't need to say anything.

I like Bruno, but he's not a captain of united. I think on balance that's why I get so angry with him, he does lots of stupid stuff. He misses simple passes and he gives the ball away too much, his attitude many times is appalling and doesn't help the team one iota, but instead of being bollocked by a roy Keane or Bryan Robson and told to sort his attitude out and get on with it, its him setting the tone for the attitude amd emotion on the pitch. In that respect he's such a liability that if he remains captain I want him out. I despair when he starts whining. It is his job to lead by action and shut up and close off anything negative as a leader. He's no leader. He's terrible, egotistical leader that wants the limelight and adoration but doesn't put in the painful yards or suffer for his cause.

So in answer to your question, no ypu shouldn't sit quietly, by all means vent frustration
But enough of the finality and the histrionics. Demanding a guy is sacked because you don't like what you see? Right now? Come on man, that's the lazy toxicity, you don't have any answers, because you're not trying to solve anything you're part of the problem amorim faces. The delusional view that all should now be well, ignoring the board, the owners and the expert leaders that 2028 is realistically when we will have built a team capable of challenging. Let me translate that for you.

You're going to see some car crash performances still until we get the right players in every position. They you're going to have to wait until they've spent enough time playing together that they can really deliver as a team.

Meantime, buckle up for the ride because ypu are going to have se real highs and se real lows. Enjoy the highs and don't over react to the lows and cut your nose off to spite your face.

I like this manager. He is truthful, he is emotional, he says stuff he shouldn't (i really wish Fergus would drill him in the art of complaining about referees, about results going against us deliberately, about how unfair we are treated, complain about how often we are fouled in transition with no yellows or reds, lack of penalties, too many bad decisions against us, encourage absolute aggression, especially in midfield, hey Manuel, hey Kobbie, , December Ligt, Yoro, if i don't see their playmaker smashed into the air in the first 10 minutes you're not playing the next game. And get into the team and use Merson, Neville and Carragher to develop a siege mentality just like Fergie. This guys capable and the media will buy it. They slag him off all week, and then when he gets in front of them, they row back and show balance even before the game, so why isn't he doing more midweek to manage the narrative? that's an objection i have not just of him but the whole Man utd passive PR machine. Get on the front foot and manage all this shyte coming out in the press, do it Donald tump style, cut the media out and do it dorecr so the media want the story and then they comply with you.

Not rocket science so yeah there's loads I am pissed about and want to see change. I am no different to you in that respect.

The big difference is that i'm using a collection of calendars and you're using a stopwatch! That's my serious view of why ypu become toxic. Its not your view, its your ultimatums and especially your timelines! They're insane and unrealsitic so I don't see ypu balancing the journey out and simply demanding we hit the top of the charts is unrealistic when we only have half a band even with a great promoter.

06 Oct 2025 14:32:12
Super post CO. Kurtis to be honest imo is a good poster and seems like a really decent bloke.
The weird thing is he didn't want eth sacked yet we are doing better after 7 games this season compared to last.
The reason I didn't want ole or eth to stay was because they were skirting around obvious issues in fact ole started and allowed for a lot of slack behaviour and bad habits imo. But they didn't take the bull by the horns and start getting rid of bad apples with bad habits. RA is a much better leader imo and is taking a lot of pain now for a better future. Unlike our previous managers.

06 Oct 2025 16:36:33
Thanks Ken and I am not anti Kurtis, I am anti illogical ultimatums that I really fear in that they might be listened to. Martin Edwards took almighty stick for remaining behind Ferguson, I remember it clear as day.

He stood firm, believed in Ferguson getting rid of the drinking culture and being unafraid to sideline or move on powerful personalities like Robson, Whiteside, McGrath, Kevin Moran, Frank Stapleton, who were always to be found in the Valley Lodge in Wilmslow getting absolutely hammered. Also Neil Webb Arthur Albiston and he made a fair few transfers who didn't last long as they weren't deemed good enough, Desperate Olsen, Gordon Strachan etc. So it wasn't perfect. Even though he brought in Brice and Palliater in 1988 it took 5 more years with a solid defence to win the league.

It feels very much the same now, I think one or two brought in are okay, but not title challenging players. That said they're an upgrade on what we had so again, I view that as a stepping stone and progress.

But it will all fall apart if we don't stick with a manager who is stubborn, REALLY HATES LOSING and boy ypu can see it, and I like that. He is in as much pain as we sometimes are. I've no doubt he's angry and frustrated because despite grafting all week to ensure alignment, one idiot always seems to find a way to drag us backwards. Sometimes we are lucky and sometimes we arent. I wonder what we might have had going on right now if the CF had buried the chancenin the forst 3 minutes when Dalot inexplicably went total AWOL, Ball watching and totally out of position, like Luke Shaw mark2, so fine margins as was said by BRD so poingnantly early in the thread. Such a basic error because he's not good enough. Nothing to do woth systems or WBs compared to FBs, just being crap and not switched on. Another day we are bang in trouble in minutes and at home.

So we deserved that bit of luck, and again having Lammens get away woth one error in position and also saving well with his legs De Gea style.

Its going to be like this for a while and I get the frustration. He's honest woth all the players, and I love that even when Mount said we are all behind him hos reaction was very clear, don't back in in the press, show me on the field, that's where I will trust you all, not the drivel post match we need to do betters or we weren't good enough, shut up making excuses and do your jobs on the pitch, week in and weel out.

So he knows what he is demanding and he's not fooled by some of the charlatans who talk a good game but don't turn up on the field. That all bodes well for the future.

The dissipating and disarming humour when a whole week of media abuse and demands he is sacked and can't carry on met with the first question over meeting Jim Ratcliffe of he offered me a new contract, that popped their balloon well and truly and got the press confer3nce on the right track.

So he can take pressure and he can respond to it, but the reality is he still has players who cannot deal with it, eother through lack of mental toughness, focus, or simply they are out of their depth at United.

Same as that great post by DonRed comparing both other managers and our ex players going elsewhere amd shining. This is Man Utd, you can easily go and hack it eother where there is less pressure, spotlight and challenge or where you're already joining a team winning leagues or champions leagues, you may still be bang average but you are in a top club with top players all around in much lesser leagues.

No ones me toning Marcus this week because happily even though he got a goal, not only did we win, but they got battered by a very average team.

So too Hojlund, whos nailed another goal, but we won so headlines can only be like GNEv, possibly only second to Rooney in ex utd know alls as hopeless managers who couldn't achieve in mediocre challenges never mind at Utd, stating oh he's not out the woods yet, rather than show any balance and say hey they played really well and we're easy winners in the end.

For the record he did tweak the system and pushed Mbuemo further up with Sesko, and that caused Sunderland no end of problems. So tok did telling Lammens to go long and not try playing out from the back. So this inflexibility he made a rod for his own back with should hopefully be a thing of the past, as I said he's stubborn so maybe he was allowing these things to get to him, but he's only young and I think he's showing great potential.

It was great to see a ports saying shame we have the international break before we can get at Liverpool where they're at right now, when is the last time a poster was gutted we weren't able to go straight to Anfield after a home game?

And ypur various posts hit the nail on the head on where we are truly at and what we as fans have a duty to the club and to ourselves to be mindful of, so whilst its a forum for United fans it should also be an area where the centers can vent but also expect to be talked down off the roof and encluraged to drop the extremist solutions and knuckle down and focus on the tasks ahead. The balme lies in the players and the previous administration leaving us still in this position.

Im impatient too. Its so frustrating seeing where all the problems are on the pitch and knowing that we are stuck with them for one or maybe 2 summers. But as Amorim said at the end of last season. We are sorry, but the good times will come again. And I do believe as long as the outside noise is shut out (carragher and merson will be wet dreaming for the next 2 weeks that they can knock us back down into turning on ourselves through their bitter nonsense) and I genuinely still think we will get beat at Liverpool, because we aren't there yet by any means to expect to compete, and certainly the scouser will be very confident. Who knows though, a goal midway through first half and going in at 1 nil at halftime with where they're at right now, and it would make my year to see them turn. on themselves and to see the vitriol pointed back at them. That wouldn't juat quite them for a week, that would turn the tide away from United and onto the woeful form and pe4formabces of the current champions who have far more reason to be splashed negatively all over the media than Amorim deserves right now.

06 Oct 2025 18:01:16
We are 2 peas in a podcast CO.





 

 

 
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