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26 Aug 2025 22:31:49
Real and Atletico keeping tabs on Mainoo over a potential loan deal. Personally hoping its just media clickbait!
1.) 27 Aug 2025 05:56:42
A Real midfield containing Tchouaméni, Camavinga, Guler, Bellingham and Valverde and a Athetico team who have just spent €30m on Cardoso from Betis to partner Pablo Barrios and Rodrigo De Paul.
If he wants minutes on the pitch then these are probably not the best two teams to be linked with, that is why it’s either idle paper talk because United generate clicks, or an agent stirring.
{Ed077's Note - should I point out that De Paul has joined Inter Miami earlier this window ?
2.) 27 Aug 2025 08:05:21
Interesting discussion on Muppetiers about what’s really going on with Mainoo.
Fuelled by agent who wants new contract / more game time
Mainoo being gradually prepared to take over Bruno when he leaves for Saudi next summer and will hopefully partner Baleba.
3.) 27 Aug 2025 08:31:33
I am not worried about Mainoo going. We have not managed to complete a sale in 2 months of negotiating.
Cant see us suddenly completing one in under 5 days.
4.) 27 Aug 2025 06:20:59
Sorry Ed, early in the morning, thought he was still there.
{Ed077's Note - NW
5.) 27 Aug 2025 12:45:02
Listen to mitten. Muppeteers is an aggregator.
6.) 28 Aug 2025 10:37:18
Lets be honest about Mainoo, he's a talented young player with potential. He isn't a top level player right now. Maybe his first season and his run the Euros final with England has made him think he's further along in his career than he actually is.
Right now he's a talent young player who had a purple patch for the first 8 months in the first team while he benefitted from having the surprise element over his opposition. He then had an injury hit season where he struggled to match his first season performances.
Yes he has a lot of potential, and if he works hard and develops his game then I'm sure he can be a regular first choice player for us.
But right now he isn't that player no matter how much us fans want him to be the Messiah.
He struggles in a midfield two and to be completely frank while he looked good individually when he played in a midfield three with Casemiro and Bruno, it didn't improve our performances as a team. Games still reassembled a basketball match with teams running right through the heart of midfield where we left far too many large gaps.
The reality is that the midfield issue cannot be solved by any of our current midfielders. In fact it's not even entirely a midfield issue.
Yes we need a more athletic and positionally intelligent defensive player in there than we currently have in the squad.
However, half the problem is still that the team overall loses it's compactness as the game wears on. Our defence later in games stops pressing as high and drops deeper which increases the amount of space the tiring legs in midfield need to cover. Which is why Amorim has subbed a couple of CB's in the games this season, to try and get the defence to push higher up and close those gaps.
While the new No.10's are yet to fully adapt to the role they need to play. They need to both offer attacking creativity, but they also need to drop deeper when we don't have the ball to help form a 4 man box midfield. The issue we have had so far is Cunha has had to play as the false 9 in games due to Zirkzee being injured and Sesko still settling in. Which means he hasn't managed to get to grips with the role fully yet. Then Mbeumo joined later and is still clearly trying to get back to full fitness to the level needed, as well as having very little time to be coached the role.
The two man midfield is not the real problem, lots of teams line up with a double pivot. The real problem is that we haven't got the right blend of skill sets and quality amongst the midfield options, along with the rest of the team struggling to implement the tactics successfully for the entire 90 minutes.
If the defence can push high for the whole game and the No.10's can drop deep when we don't have the ball then we actually have 5 players in the middle of the pitch (CCB who steps up, both midfielders, and both No.10's) when the opposition have the ball.
This issue is more about how the team play together as a team and move together as a unit. Once they get that the performances and results will start to improve.
We saw it against Arsenal where we did it so well that Arsenal retreated into their shell and hung on. We started doing it against Fulham, but the confidence of the players wobbled and the defence started to drop deep along with Bruno pushing further forward trying to force the goal which totally opened us up in the middle of the park allowing Fulham to take control of the game.
The strength of a clear structured system is it can allow a team to play greater than the sum of its parts. The weakness of it is that it only takes one player to not do their job properly and it starts to break down,
7.) 28 Aug 2025 14:02:58
I'd say probably a year ago Mainoo was one of our better players, and more England too. His best position is difficult to pin down. I thought he wasn't quite right for those no.10 roles but still managed to contribute a lot in an attacking sense.
Past 6 months I have no idea what's happened. All seems to have changed since he cut his hair!
As a Utd follower for about 4 decades I've been treated to and always associated Utd with some of the best centre forwards in the world and always a great pulse or cog in the middle the whole team evolved around. Sadly we've had neither since Fergie left.
8.) 28 Aug 2025 16:34:29
A lot of players burst onto the scene then get found out. Their habits, the preferences, even their tells get noticed and leant and the more the play the more game film there is the more that everyone understands how they play and how to play them. Its up then for the player to add more strings to his bow find ways to hurt you thst cpunter your counter to what he is good at.
With Mainoo you don't press because his great at recieving and turning into space and taking one or two players out of the game whilst he isn't strong he has a low centre of gravity and uses his body well here.
Mainoo for example bevomes a totally different player if people start dropping off allowing him turn and he starts hitting 40 or 50 yard passes. Suddenly you have a massive headache in how to deal with him.
Hjulmand certainly did a bit of this at Sporting. The big thing with Hjulmand though is defensively his reading was exceptional which covered for his lack pace. Mainoo isn't at that point yet by a long way.
Mainoo needs to develop his game like all players. I think that's at least in part why he has seemi gly regressed. He hasn't so much as others have adjusted how they deal with him.
A lot of players have difficult years 2 and 3 whilst they work out what got them through a decade of youth and reserve football isn't going to carry them through EPL.
06 May 2025 11:36:18
Fernandes linked with Al Hilal again. The money being talked about, if true, could significantly help with a squad rebuild.
Personally I worry replacing his assists and goals may make any deal bad but have seen one quote as €120 million. Would be about £80 million after Sporting Sell on fee and final amount of. amprtized deal.
1.) 06 May 2025 12:02:38
Would be crazy letting him go right now. He contributes so much in terms of goals and assists. Would be one hell if a gamble.
2.) 06 May 2025 12:16:01
I think it is upto the players. If he wants to leave, let him leave.
3.) 06 May 2025 17:56:37
I would be shocked if Bruno wants to play in such a league at this time, I appreciate money talks, but maybe in couple of years.
But if he did go we got mega problems, him and Cas are only good players we got.
4.) 06 May 2025 20:03:03
Only thing on my mind is Fernandes is 30, 80 million is roughly 240 to spend and means we shouldn't need to sell Garnacho or Mainoo this summer.
Its not going to happen but at that fee it surely makes the powers that be question it, if it were to come to fruition.
5.) 06 May 2025 20:31:08
Fernandes turns 31 in September. Every player has avalue, especially if the Saudis come in with a lucrative offer.
6.) 06 May 2025 22:54:53
By all accounts the fee could be even higher than that. There has to be a price at his age and our present standing.
7.) 07 May 2025 05:47:08
I think this is one of those situations where no matter what happens the club are likely to be seen to be doing the wrong thing.
On one hand Bruno is our captain, our leader on the pitch and currently our best and only player close to being world class. Losing him would absolutely have a negative impact on the team, at least in the short term. While there are absolutely no guarantees that any money he brings in would be spent on the team or if it was that it would be spent wisely. Remember when Spurs sold Bale and bought 3 or 4 players with the money. None of them came close to providing even a quarter of what Bale did.
On the other hand he is 31 in September, on huge wages, and will only decline on the pitch. When that happens is anybody's guess. Maybe he does a Modric and keeps playing at a high level for another 5 or 6 years, or maybe his body starts giving up on him over the next couple of seasons. He has after all worked it harder than most, rarely injured, playing the majority of available minutes every year for the past 5-6 years or more. Does he even know how to slow down and manage himself? While if the rumours of a record British sale price are true then it isn't an offer the club can dismiss out of hand. Sacrificing Bruno in the short term might be the better option for the club in the long term. It helps rebalance the wage structure by getting another higher earner off it. While if the money is reinvested well in the squad then we could bring in 4 maybe even 5 players who if even half of them go on to be vital first team members means that we've improved the team overall.
Whatever happens the naysayers will be out in force. If we sell him then we lack ambition, and have lost our best player. If we keep him then the moment his form drops they will say we wasted the opportunity to sell him for a huge fee and the club is being mismanaged.
For what it's worth I've changed my view over the course of the season. At the start I even suggested that we might need to sell Bruno as he might not be a great fit for Amorim and that he wasn't the long term solution. I likened it to Liverpool selling Coutinho after Klopp joined. He didn't quite fit the system and the funds helped buy key players who did.
Yet now I'd say it makes more sense to keep him. I've seen how valuable he has become for Amorim. A key player who helps set the managers vision on the pitch. He has adapted his game and shown that he can do so and still put in top class performances. He has grown as a leader on the pitch, with some of the pettiness and rubbishhousery being cut out of his game. While he his experience is vital for what is becoming a much younger and inexperienced squad. His professionalism has never been in doubt, he trains hard, and is committed to the club. I think we lose vital things needed for the rebuild of this squad if we sell him, things that just cannot be replaced. For that reason I think it's best we keep him.
However, that's just my opinion. Ultimately this decision needs to be in the hands of the player. If he wants to move on and take the insane wages on offer then it will be the right time to part ways. I won't begrudge him that opportunity, nor will I hold it against him. I'd thank him for all he's given us and wish him well. Then move on and see how we can use the money to improve the squad. If his head is turned then there is no point in keeping him. Likewise, if he listens to the offer and decides "no thank you" then it reconfirms his dedication to us and proves he is the right man to captain us over the next few years.
I hope he stays as we are a far better team with him than without him.
8.) 07 May 2025 06:03:28
If he wants to go, let him go.
9.) 07 May 2025 06:59:03
I don’t think anyone heard Bruno say he wants to go to Saudi league, I don’t think anyone even seen any drop off in his standards that show he may want to leave…. So basically it’s just noise, even if the club like the sound of 100 million plus if he don’t want to go, he don’t go, I am not saying that if a RealMadrid was not looking for a Modric replacement he would not be straight on the plane and who could blame him, but I really can’t see at this stage of his career him going to Saudi, even at 30-31 he does more running then most of our players and certainly better than them all.
10.) 07 May 2025 08:39:36
The press is reporting a British record fee which would be north of £118m. Bruno turns 31 next season, with the issues at the club financially and from a playing staff standpoint we would be crazy to turn down the cash. Bruno’s original contract lapsed so his net book value doesn’t have any debt on it.
We have players coming to the end of their contracts that need replacing (Heaton, Evans, Eriksen and Lindelof) . Players that are likely to leave that need replacing (Malacia, Sancho, Rashford and Antony) hopefully we receive a decent fee for these players. Players that can’t be relied upon due to ongoing injury issues (Shaw, Mount, Martinez) and players that the club would like to replace (Onana and Casemiro) .
The above doesn’t event take into account that we are short on both sides of the fullback role, we desperately need another midfielder and an established striker.
Rangnick was right about needing open heart surgery, we have just left it 3 years and spent an incredible amount of money since he left poorly. Hopefully those days are over.
I personally think we sell, reinvest and rebuild.
11.) 07 May 2025 09:23:21
Redseven and if he doesn't want to go?
12.) 07 May 2025 11:07:36
I think the choice will be his. He obviously had a chance to make a Saudi move recently and approached the club to convince him or the direction and that they still wanted him, which they did. Maybe the same situation arises in the coming weeks.
13.) 07 May 2025 15:43:31
If he’d rather stay, then that’s good too.
14.) 07 May 2025 15:52:12
Hope he stays. The club will be able to buy and build without selling Bruno.
Sure if we sell Bruno, we have a few extra quid, but there is no guarantee we replace that quality. I'd rather build with him than without.
15.) 08 May 2025 17:50:06
I'm indifferent to be honest. That goes for any player in the squad. I doubt bruno wants to leave if he doesn't then that's good. We have other players to sell.
If he wants to go amd take a reported 65m tax free season i certainly wouldn't blame him. The free reported would be well received.
I think he will stay. I think he will want to stay.
I think the manager would sacrifice lots of others like garnacho and rashford or even mainoo before bruno.
We need to sell 100% profit players i think it will be rashford and at least 1 other. If we don't make cl then it will probably be rashford plus 2 others.
09 Aug 2024 21:06:19
Any truth that progress has been made on De Ligt and Mazraoui? Plettenberg tweeted they will join in Aug, Further positive and ongoing talks.
{Ed002's Note - The options remain as I have explained. Prices need to be agreed.}
1.) 09 Aug 2024 21:14:21
Thanks Ed, I may have got hopefully optimistic lol. Have a great weekend.
{Ed002's Note - And you.}
2.) 09 Aug 2024 21:19:32
Really done see de ligt as a good option, high fee high wage, very similar to Maguire maybe a bit better in the tackle.
Be interested to hear what ed001 thinks about MDL I think he would really struggle with the speed of the prem especially in a high line.
{Ed001's Note - I don't rate him at all, Ed77 calls him the Dutch Harry Maguire and I think that is a decent approximation, though De Ligt is better on the ball. He played a few games in midfield early in his career and looked much better in there, but as a defender he lacks massively. His reading of the game is not good enough to make up for his lack of pace and his positioning is, at best, dodgy. I really do not see him as a good choice at all.}
3.) 09 Aug 2024 22:44:05
De Ligt feels like an unusual one for me, especially as we already have Maguire who appears to be going nowhere. He’s also not shone at Juventus and Bayern.
JB is the signing for me at centre half from Everton and hope it happens.
4.) 10 Aug 2024 08:41:14
Ed, Bayern want to buy his replacement for 20m less. Red flags all over the place.
But if he is just a back up to share the load, I'm hoping it turns out to be an inspired piece of business.
5.) 10 Aug 2024 08:50:04
Personally I'd avoid both MdL and Mazraoui. While I think Mazraoui is a better fit stylistically, his injury record is appalling.
Bayern don't tend to sell good players who go on to bigger and better things. In fact the only player I can think of to leave Bayern and achieve greater success is Toni Kroos.
Every other player I can think of that has left Bayern have either taken a step down or declined upon leaving.
There is a reason why Bayern are prepared to sell Mazraoui and MdL this summer and it's not because they are being forced to buy financial pressures. They are selling them because neither are considered good enough or value for money.
While we are struggling to sell our cast offs let's not do other top clubs a favour by buying theirs.
6.) 10 Aug 2024 08:58:09
I get the doubts, but not the Harry M comparisons.
Maguire problem is that he has poor positioning and compounds it with abysmal mobility. MEL's positioning may not be the best, but it is far better than Maguire's, and his mobility is at least reasonable.
He's also noticeably better on the ball.
7.) 10 Aug 2024 09:09:28
Too tall, too small, too slow, too injury prone, too whatever.
This dream team of half a dozen people above ten Hag have identified these players. Do we know better?
8.) 10 Aug 2024 09:42:07
Half a dozen above ten hag identified him? Did they spenno? Remember Eth extended his deal not signed a new one he still has a level of control over signings MDL seems a very ETH signing.
9.) 10 Aug 2024 10:57:56
I’ll leave it to the essayists and forum experts to decide.
10.) 10 Aug 2024 11:28:21
Rumours are that he is facing criminal charges for ramming another car and driving off. Sounds like he will fit in well at old Trafford. It's nearly a prerequisite to have players at the club that are in trouble with the law.
I hope we go back to Everton and stay well away from MDL.
11.) 10 Aug 2024 15:53:08
Some people are never happy, deligt is an upgrade on what we have, as is mazraoui, no?
06 Aug 2024 23:55:56
Enquiries started over Youssouf Fofana supposedly. Never seen him play but supposedly available for around 30 million, depends how bought into AC Milan he is/ was.
1.) 07 Aug 2024 08:30:07
read on 3or 4 sites they doubled the price when UTD came calling -Milan offered between 14-18 mill euros depending on what news outlet you believe - going into his last 12 months of his contract 30 mill is way too much.
2.) 07 Aug 2024 11:11:30
He doesn't seem to have set the world alight whenever I've watched him but maybe he can do the job required. The players in this DM position vary from being quite understated and tidy to being gung-ho and jumping in all over the place. Not sure which variety he is!
3.) 07 Aug 2024 13:06:31
He's a good player, different to Ugarte, but still has lots of useful qualities our midfield lacks.
I wouldn't be surprised if the price went up when we inquired. Partially because we have a reputation of over spending on players, but also because simple supply and demand. How much Monaco can ask for a player when just one side is interested in buying him is significantly less than when there is a potential bidding war.
People have seen the price Joao Neves went for to PSG and feel that maybe we should have bid as well, but if we did then that would have jacked up the price. Same thing last summer when Kane went to Bayern Munich.
I think if we can't get our first choice then we need to be sensible and look at what options are available. No point spending all our budget on a 2nd or third choice option who ultimately probably won't be good enough. Better to get a cheap player who adds something and lifts the floor of the squad, keeping our powder dry to spend next summer on a quality first choice option who raises the ceiling of our squad.
04 Sep 2023 14:04:57
Do any of the Eds know if there is any interest for Sancho from any of the teams in the Saudi League. I just can't fathom a way forward after yesterday, even just till January. I suppose Jadon would be happy to get away from the circus as well.
{Ed002's Note - No.}
1.) 04 Sep 2023 16:44:57
Turkey maybe or Saudi that's it.
2.) 04 Sep 2023 17:13:54
Anyway you chop this up we're going to have to take a big loss on Sancho. His wages are reportedly in the region on £350,000 a week. That would be on par with the likes of Salah, Hallan and De Bruyne.
He has not shown any consistency since he's got here, he hasn't developed or improved at all and would struggle to get into most teams hoping to challenge for trophies.
His mentality mirrors how he plays on the pitch, weak. A team of professionals fighting to be in the first 11, if a manager is saying you aren't picked because you are not showing as much in training as the others then you should respond by working harder, not giving your fingers a work out on social media.
Pellestri was dead and buried at this club until Ten Hag liked what he saw. By all accounts he just put his head down and worked hard everyday. He surpassed the likes of Elanga for a spot on the bench and looks like he's surpassed Sancho too. It's a message to everyone at the club that we have standards.
Sanchos contract is until 2026 which means we're on the hook to pay him £55,000,000. If he is to leave then no club is as stupid as we are with contracts, he's going to want us to chip in with his wages.
Also take into account the fee we'll get will be minimal compared to outer initial outlay.
Saudi would help us a lot because of their wages but will he want to go there?
Anyone else will give us peanuts and expect us to pick up his wages too.
There is a few players still at the club that are on stupid wages who we couldn't give away.
This will take awhile to get the club on the right track, but our recent history of offering Mount, Casemiro and Varane big contracts means we'll probably never be a club that has its wages under control.
3.) 04 Sep 2023 21:54:48
I’m sure they’ll sort it out like responsible adults ?.
4.) 04 Sep 2023 23:22:19
I can remember being shocked when we signed Sancho, I didn't think we had a chance. I can remember the editor being surprised too, but now we know why, £375k a week.
Insane, amateurish.
5.) 05 Sep 2023 06:48:30
I remember Ed01 saying he is nowhere near as good as people think he is or saying he is, he has probably been even worse than that.
6.) 05 Sep 2023 08:36:18
I was pleased when we signed him to be honest. Thought he might solve our issues on the right - sadly not worked out.
We need to not keep these players for prolonged periods. Sell him and move on - let the lad kick start his career elsewhere and we get rid of a player that’s not working. Sadly for Jadon, I think he’ll need to make a step down to make a move back up to where he thinks he belongs, but I doubt he has the mindset for that.
I’d rather give Pellestri and Amad a run to compete with Antony, and play Donny as back up 10!
7.) 05 Sep 2023 11:45:28
Eric
The first reply was funny and made me laugh.
On your second reply, I hope Donny goes too, we need players who are not good enough gone. he is not cut for the PL and no wonder no interest within the league even for a loan.
Having him hang around for a handful of 15 minute cameo's, when we have injuries or winning a game comfortably is not good for him or the club. He needs to go to a club, where he plays week in week out. Never going to be that at United and I suspect will cost us to move him. his wages are up there too.
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29 Aug 2025 21:04:01
Antony seals permanent switch, maybe with him and Garnacho gone/ going we can get GK and CM we so desperately need!
1.) 29 Aug 2025 22:31:39
Or that incoming capital could be used to deleverage. MU is in a dire situation financially, it cannot continue to throw coin to the wind. The club needs a full reset, it has for years. No better time to do that when than now when avoiding relegation is the only reasonable expectation this year. The cat will never catch the mouse when it is bloated and fat.
2.) 29 Aug 2025 22:38:39
Seems like it's going to collapse due to his demands.
3.) 29 Aug 2025 23:21:26
Meikyu,
That’s a lot of absolute nonsense, like really all made up, where did you get all of that from? The club isn’t in a dire situation financially and is certainly not going to be in a relegation battle this year.
4.) 30 Aug 2025 04:07:59
Rabiot and Edison for me. If rumors are to believed we could potentially get them both for a combined £30m. Offer them 2 years + 1 contracts. Both walk into our starting 11 and massively improve it.
{Ed025's Note - Rabiot is a whole lot of trouble Redseven and you need to get away from signing players who come with baggage mate, that has been your downfall in recent years..
5.) 30 Aug 2025 07:36:44
GDS2, MEIKYU / MAZE / German Supp Club continues his negativity. Ignore!
6.) 30 Aug 2025 08:18:47
Ed025. His agent/ mother is a bit of a cock, but by all accounts, he’s a pretty decent guy. The only reason Marseille want shot of him is because he got into a bust up with a player who didn’t like being called out for his lack of commitment. I’d argue we could really do with someone like that right now.
{Ed025's Note - its not his first run in though Redseven, controversy has followed him around for most of his career mate..
18 Aug 2025 09:55:40
I went into yesterday fully expecting United to get beaten by Arsenal. All I really wanted was a proper performance – and honestly, I feel like I got more than that. We didn’t deserve to lose, and if there’s a silver lining it might be that this result finally forces a goalkeeper signing before the window closes.
On the pitch, I thought Yoro, Dorgu, Cunha, Mbeumo and Mount were excellent. Personally, I’d have preferred to see Amad come on for Dalot, and Sesko replace Casemiro, with Mount pushed into central midfield. He was dropping deeper anyway, and his distribution was outstanding – those cross-field balls kept opening Arsenal up time and time again.
On the flip side, I agree with others that Ugarte looks well off the pace. He’s trying too many elaborate things – like shooting from distance when that’s clearly not his game. He just needs to get back to keeping it simple.
Looking ahead, fingers crossed we can move on Sancho, Garnacho, Malacia and Antony. That would free up enough PSR wiggle room for a new goalkeeper and central midfielder, which would really mark the start of the rebuild we’ve been crying out for.
01 Aug 2025 13:39:48
Honestly, I think the Isak bid rejection is just posturing. Newcastle know full well he’ll leave — probably for more than what’s been offered today — and this way they can claim they "tried everything" to keep him. Makes them look good to the fans.
Once that sale goes through, I wouldn’t be surprised to see them move quickly for Sesko and Wissa — smart business that still leaves them with change to spend elsewhere. That would explain why United are suddenly being heavily linked to Sesko again — could be pressure tactics or a backup plan.
If Newcastle pull that off, we’re basically left with Watkins or Vlahović as realistic options. Out of the two, I’d lean Watkins for Premier League experience, but it’s hard to see Villa letting him go unless it’s silly money. Vlahović is a risk, but maybe the only elite-ish profile left if Sesko's off the table.
1.) 01 Aug 2025 15:09:56
I hope Newcastle can hold onto the lad. He signed a contract and should honor it. If the rumors are true that they’ve offered him a new deal with increased wages and a guaranteed release clause for next summer, that seems like a fair compromise all round.
2.) 01 Aug 2025 15:10:09
Vlahovic is so overrated.
3.) 01 Aug 2025 16:37:22
I can easily see Watkins at Newcastle.
I'll drive him there if he's stuck!
01 Jun 2025 07:39:03
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1.) 31 May 2025 21:12:15
Ask AI how to fix Manchester United.
2.) 31 May 2025 22:38:59
Barca now chasing Garcia officially so you can scratch that one.
Mbeumo I hear is Newcastle bound and that makes more sense for both those parties.
3.) 01 Jun 2025 08:25:17
I hear…. you mean read in the press, so we believe that today! because it suits, the one thing the club does seem better at, is keeping its targets and signings quiet, so I am expecting min of 5 in GK, CB 2 strikers and midfielder.
4.) 01 Jun 2025 19:53:12
I seem to be your latest target German. It hasn't ended well for you with others being the target and it probably won't end well this time.
Try changing your name again you helmet.
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30 Sep 2025 09:24:18
Personally it feels like the narrative surrounding Amorim has changed, and a new manager will be in place soon. I have a feeling Liverpool will be his last game with a new manager starting after that as there is a decent run of games until new year.
04 Aug 2025 14:54:30
Cant help but feel we missed a rick on Joao Palhinha. Loan with option to buy would have got us through this year, or maybe any other deals, including loans impact our ability to bring in the striker we want.
23 May 2025 12:08:32
In my opinion I think the potentials are Bruno Fernandes potentially sold for £120m. Rashford linked with a £40m move. Garnacho, despite his talent, might be off for £50m. Sancho could go for a cut-price £20m. Add to that a list of expiring contracts — Eriksen, Lindelöf, Heaton, Evans — and you’re looking at a significant reset both on the pitch and on the wage bill.
But what does this mean in real financial terms, especially under the Premier League’s Profit and Sustainability Rules (PSR)?
Estimated Player Sales and PSR Profit Impact
Player Sale Fee (£m) Original Cost (£m) Book Value Left PSR Profit (Est. )
Bruno Fernandes £120m £47m ~£5m ~£115m
Marcus Rashford £40m Academy product £0 £40m
Garnacho £50m Academy product £0 £50m
Jadon Sancho £20m £73m ~£30m ~–£10m (loss)
Estimated PSR Profit: ~£195 million
Because Rashford and Garnacho came through the academy, 100% of their sale fees count as profit in PSR terms. Bruno, with most of his transfer cost now amortised, would also register a massive profit. Even with a Sancho loss, the total PSR profit is significant.
Wage Bill Relief
Player Weekly Wage Annual Saving
Fernandes £240k £12.5m
Rashford £300k £15.6m
Garnacho £50k £2.6m
Sancho £350k £18.2m
Eriksen £150k £7.8m
Lindelöf £120k £6.2m
Heaton £40k £2.1m
Evans £40k £2.1m
Total Estimated Wage Savings: ~£67 million annually
This creates vital breathing space under both PSR and the UEFA Squad Cost Ratio, even though United will not be in the Champions League next season.
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So, What Can United Spend?
Under PSR, you can’t lose more than £105m over three years, but player sales and cost-cutting can offset this. With ~£195m in PSR profit and a leaner wage bill, United could reasonably reinvest around £200m–£250m, if structured smartly.
How?
Buy a player for £50m on a 5-year deal = only £10m/ year hit to PSR.
Spread your rebuild across 4–5 signings on these terms, and you stay well within your financial limits.
Other Factors:
No Champions League = a £40–60m revenue hit.
Still paying instalments for past transfers (Antony, Casemiro, etc. ) .
Need to budget for agent fees, bonuses, and future wages.
06 May 2025 20:03:03
Only thing on my mind is Fernandes is 30, 80 million is roughly 240 to spend and means we shouldn't need to sell Garnacho or Mainoo this summer.
Its not going to happen but at that fee it surely makes the powers that be question it, if it were to come to fruition.
29 Jan 2025 09:41:32
According to Fav it's €30 mill with €5 mill in not guaranteed add ons. 6ft 1 and supposedly rapidly, with an unreal engine. Will it work out who knows but seems a far more reasonable expenditure than some of our deals in the past. Now it's whether Rash or Garnacho goes as to if anyone else comes in, I think.
Philip_hunter2003's banter replies
27 Aug 2025 19:31:25
At that price we can just pray we have a good sell on % inserted. Went from 70, to 50 to 35 to 40 : (.
10 Jun 2025 16:45:16
Just enjoying watching them play again would be great right.
09 Jun 2025 09:49:44
Met him in Sheffield in 2010, and sat and chatted over a few drinks. What a nice guy he was! RIP.
{Ed077's Note - RIP
28 May 2025 16:33:45
May or may not be seeing East 17 this weekend at some nostalgic event ?.
{Ed001's Note - is it a reminder of how s**t your youth was? I remember a flatmate of mine used to think they were the best band ever. I think hearing them again would probably trigger a twitch for me!}
27 May 2025 17:59:29
Completely agree Shappy, sad to see him go but we are not getting another opportunity at that kind of money. If it's true and we get 100 mill plus, and manage to sell Rashford, Garnacho, Sancho we can achieve a far greater rebuild that would have taken multiple windows otherwise.