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23 Nov 2018 11:15:29
These are the quotes from Jose; that have been 'lost in translation', shame on the media for twisting his words (again) and for our fans who fell for it aswell. Thought i'd put the quotes on here before someone goes on a rant saying 'he's throwing his players under the bus'

"Maturity. When I say that, I mean maturity at a personal level. We (talking to the interviewer) are more men, we are more mature, we were more prepared to face life. We were less protected. In England, they call it 'spoilt'. Today, we're talking about 'spoilt kids'. Our children are more 'spoilt' than we were.

"I think kids these days have a different social life than us, and players have around them an 'entourage', and I mean a personal entourage, the people that surround them, that protect them more, give them more affection, more excuses. They reach maturity more slowly.

For example, this kid, Luke Shaw, who is currently the national team's left-back, when I arrived here two years ago, he didn't know how to compete. He had great potential, yes, but he didn't know how to compete. When we talk about Luke Shaw, Martial, Lingard, Rashford, we're talking about kids with great potential but still lack a word I can't say but that you like a lot. they lack a bit of that. ".

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23 Nov 2018 11:36:45
Why name drop those four players and say they lack character.

It just does not make logical sense to do it in the press. Keep it behind closed doors and say whatever you like within reason.

Martial has pretty much saved his job, that showed some character in my opinion.

Where are all these experienced players with character getting us, sanchez, lukaku, matic, smalling, herrera, young and valencia. They have all been awful this season.

23 Nov 2018 11:58:54
You have left or missed the critical part of the interview out.

23 Nov 2018 12:04:46
^^^ that's also incorrect and only part of it . Watch the interview with Stoichcov.

23 Nov 2018 12:22:26
Which part is missed out jred? Copied the quotes from Sport Witness. He never exactly said that DSG, he says young players in this current age aren't like the youngsters 10/ 15 years ago and the one's we have are simply part of this current trend, have everything handed to them on a plate.

23 Nov 2018 12:29:23
Scholes half the interview pal, looks like sports witness have just posted what was in the MEN or vice versa .

23 Nov 2018 14:54:19
scholes how exactly is this much different from what is being reported Mourinho according to your own quotes and said they lack a bit of something he did not clarify what he meant but agreed with the interviewer when he presented the word "Character" to mourinho.

To me that is basically mourinho naming 4 of our players 2 of whom are big reason why he hasn't lost his job already and saying that they lack character.

Quite the man motivator mourinho is isn't he, no better way to get your players to perform other than to name drop and call them out for literally no reason.

If he actually had the balls as you say he would maybe call out the serbian titanic who moves slower than the orignal one for being utterly hopeless for most of his time at utd or his 75mn striker who likes to talk big in press but gets bullied on the pitch like a frightened little 5 year old when actually having to play against one of the real big boys.

23 Nov 2018 14:59:07
Also if mourinho wants to talk maturity how about maturity from a 55 year old man, shouldn't a mature man pick one of the fit cb's or a mf who plays cb from time to time when he wants an additional cb rather than playing a 21 yr old not caring about the result it gets just so he can prove a point that he wasn't handed another toy to play with in summer. Funny how mourinho fans want maturity from 20yr olds but don't mind the 55yr old baby throwing a hissy fit everytime things don't go his way.

23 Nov 2018 17:09:43
This sort of stuff just makes me think that he knows he has no long term future at United so is just getting the excuses in early and laying the blame on other people's shoulders.

23 Nov 2018 20:39:59
As usual there is a rush to jump on Mourinho’s back without reading everything that was said and the context.

One clear point is that a leader considers all aspects of what is needed to bring success. A leader will have a holistic view of what is needed to improve personality of young people to improve the collective. This is the work of a leader and needs to be understood.

23 Nov 2018 21:08:49
Not many leaders here Redman . They won't understand .

23 Nov 2018 23:36:03
he did it so he can take the credit for their development when they start performing. simple as.

24 Nov 2018 03:30:29
Some patronising posts on this thread, alright.

24 Nov 2018 05:04:52
Redman are we talking about the same leader who lost his dressing room at his last 2 clubs and has most of our actually good players wanting to leave or not signing new contracts. I may not be a leader singh but i know a guy who constantly picks on his players and blames everyone else for all that goes wrong when most of it is his own making is not much of a leader or are you and mourinho much the same and don't think taking responsibility comes under the purview of a leader.

24 Nov 2018 09:03:03

Let’s address lost the dressing room first. When a club let's the players think the manager will get overruled or is in a weak position you get major problems. SAF had an unassailable position so players had to play because they knew they were going before him. Your tag name common sense Moyes, maybe you think Moyes was a leader and Mourinho isn’t. The club gave Moyes a six year contract to make the players think he had full backing to avert that issue and it didn’t work. I also recall he was allegedly seen reading a book on leadership. That is not a leader. The manager must be in control and come before the players. Interesting what Hazard said about Jose wasn’t it.

You say Mourinho is not much of a leader, but from your tag name and comments I don’t think you understand what a leader is. If Mourinho wasn’t a leader, he would not have won all he has, been manager of great clubs, won in and understood different countries and cultures or earned the respect of leaders on the pitch like Terry. If he lost the dressing rooms why did Chelsea take him back or why are Madrid so keen to have him back? The man is a leader a winner.

When you examine what he said in the interview he was right and to me shows a greater understanding of the challenges of modern day football, getting to understand the psyche in young people’s heads. Its part of the full leadership package.

24 Nov 2018 09:33:16
Top post Redman.

24 Nov 2018 10:57:43
Redman are you Mourinho? Childish name calling and basically a written version of the 3 finger nonsense that Mourinho does.

He was a winner so was LVG, so was Wenger. No one is denying what he was, I am stating he isn't those things anymore. He hasn't adapted with time and finds his old ways not working as they used to.

If you fail once fair enough to try the same again but this will be the 3rd club where he is on the verge of having players stop playing for him because of his antics. How many sackings before does a manager go from is great to was great.

Fergie was feared for his hairdryer treatments of the players, yet as time went on he did that less and less not because he grew old but because he saw that the younger players were different now than they were 20 years ago. People change, you may think that people today are softer or whatever from 20 years ago but if that is what you to work with that is what you need to do, name dropping and calling out players helps no one. That's what a leader does he adapts according to what he has not bitch about it every 10mins.

Also for so much of his understanding the psyche of players it isn't really helping us much is it. 8th on the table, 12 points behind the toppers, our best player might leave on free, our best young talent isn't signing a new contract, his 100mn signing is making overtures wanting a move.

24 Nov 2018 11:37:10
Jose makes a vaild point. He needs to make certain players who got everything too soon understand about the people around them.
"Character" is exactly what many players lack in our team. The ability to come back when things are not going for them.

24 Nov 2018 11:46:13
Great post redman and true red devil. Maybe its a view that comes with maturity.



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