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22 Mar 2019 00:02:14
Hope these rumours of Herrera to PSG are media rubbish. Would be gutted to see him go. Any truth in it Eds?

Park3lung

{Ed002's Note - They have spoken with him they say.}


1.) 22 Mar 2019 08:09:26
Are any clubs looking at .....

{Ed002's Note - This is the MANCHESTER UNITED page.}


2.) 22 Mar 2019 09:42:33
Thanks for the swift response ed.


 

 

06 Mar 2019 13:11:26
Hi Ed002 any truth in the rumours united are interested in Bruno fernandes? Seems he plays attacking mid and may well be a replacement for pogba if he goes. Thanks.

Park3lung

{Ed002's Note - Bruno Fernandes (AM) is of interest to Everton and Liverpool have certainly looked at him on two or more occasions. Spurs maintain an interest but only if Christian Eriksen leaves. Asking price has more than doubled from what was already a high price in recent months and that has pushed aside interest from Juventus who don't see the value, Valencia and CSKA. Whilst Manchester United, Bayern Munich and another EPL side, none have a declared interest that I know of and all have other AM targets.}


1.) 07 Mar 2019 00:37:30
Thanks very much ed.


 

 

07 Jan 2019 12:20:18
Hi Ed apologies if this has already been covered but is there any truth in united bidding for Barella? I understand Chelsea are looking at him to replace fabregas. From what I’ve seen of Barella he looks a talented player. Be interested to hear your thoughts on him. Thanks.

Park3lung

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any MU bid.}


1.) 07 Jan 2019 13:44:17
thanks for the quick reply ed. hope all is well.

{Ed002's Note - No problem.}


 

 

15 May 2018 10:20:26
Hi Ed002 is you are around hope you are well mate. I know you said we had interest in alex Sandro but is he now our first choice target for left back? Thanks.

Park3lung

{Ed002's Note - I can't help with transfers any longer, sorry.}


1.) 15 May 2018 10:41:41
No problem thanks ed.


2.) 15 May 2018 12:32:14
If there is any truth in Sandro at 50 mill and the lad from Napoli as right back who seems highly rated at 44 mill -I don't pretend to know much about him -then Shaw and Darmian out as directly replaced for a net spend of 60 mill for a key part of defence with added attacking flair seems a good deal.


3.) 15 May 2018 12:52:37
would be a great pair of signings if true burrenway. I like Hysaj he looks a very good player. Only time will tell!


4.) 15 May 2018 12:25:31
Ed002 - is there any light at the end of the tunnel? When will you be back?

{Ed002's Note - Right now there is no plan to do anything involving transfers any longer.}


5.) 15 May 2018 14:46:53
Yes Park3lung, a bit of pace and flair going forward. I would then hope TFM comes into the first team squad as a back up rb to get him some real experience.


6.) 15 May 2018 17:41:54
Ed002 i am very sorry to hear that. I hope that there comes a time when this is all resolved and we have the pleasure of your wise words once more.

{Ed002's Note - Thanks, we'll see.}


7.) 15 May 2018 21:13:54
Most of us echo those thoughts Pogthedog, this site is a better place with Ed002 on board.


8.) 15 May 2018 22:41:22
Ultimately United will but whoever they buy.

{Ed033's Note - Sounds painful and unnecessary :)


 

 

10 Apr 2018 16:18:06
Hi Ed are the rumours of martial looking to leave in the summer true? Be bitterly disappointed if they are.

Park3lung

{Ed025's Note - i suspect he is angling for some more game time myself park..


1.) 10 Apr 2018 16:31:51
Smacks of short termism Ed if you ask me. I know he is not the finished article but if Jose really is looking to replace him with a 29 year old injury prone Gareth bale then I will be pretty livid.

Can’t blame martial he has 21 goals this season in all comps second only to Lukaku and played far less games. This has a feeling of De Bruyne if you ask me. Just my humble opinion 😂. Would much rather he was sent on loan.

{Ed025's Note - a loan to everton sounds good to me park..i love the guy..


2.) 10 Apr 2018 17:17:21
I’m fairly certain marital has 12 goals. he's a fantastic talent but doesn’t perform consistently enough, and if he doesn’t want to be here then get rid. If he does want to stay, he needs to get his head down and work hard.


3.) 10 Apr 2018 17:58:57
My mistake caolan was meant to say goals and assist. All together it would be 19 not 21. Agreed mate consistency is a problem but getting rid would be a huge mistake. If he wants regular play time a loan is better.


4.) 10 Apr 2018 16:46:50
Would be a great move ed he would get regular game time and in the premier league. But only if big sam is not managing him. A fonesca or Marco silva would do nicely! Fingers crossed he isn’t leaving but I’m not optimistic unfortunately. Thanks for your input as always ed much appreciated.

{Ed025's Note - no problem mate..


5.) 10 Apr 2018 18:25:30
This will be our kdb moment and given who the coach is not a surprise.


6.) 10 Apr 2018 18:40:48
Need to remember he is still young and developing. To maximise his potential he needs to play. I can’t blame the lad for looking elsewhere. The club took his number off him after he was trying to build a brand, we then bought Sanchez and moved him from his favoured position to the right. We then did not give him a run of games to get use to being on the right and then dropped him.

It does not demonstrate that he is valued. More gives the impression of you are here to make up the numbers and will be moved around or messed around as soon as we sign somebody else. I would be gutted if he left.


7.) 10 Apr 2018 19:29:29
I wanted him loaned out this season. He needs to play to improve and the scope for improvement is huge.


8.) 10 Apr 2018 19:38:01
Don’t be agree or get the love in with Martial. He’s a 1 in 5 player, and he needs to work hard every single day he’s here to prove he’s worth his chance.

We vastly overpaid for him in desperation and has been ok, but Rashford stays and plays more then fine by me.

Of course he could be awesome and fingers crossed it’s more media nonsense and he becomes a world class talent for us but he’s a striker not a winger.


9.) 10 Apr 2018 19:56:07
Caolan this is utd player's minutes per goals or assists ratio.

Lukaku- 110 mins per goal/ assist
Rashford- 111 mins
Lingard- 108 mins
Martial- 103 mins

Looks more like we just don't give him a consistent enough run to actually let him perform well consistently. He was utd player of the month 3 times this season until the 500k man arrived then mourinho did what he does best with young attacking players.


10.) 10 Apr 2018 20:50:03
Is it a case of the manager wants rid or the player wants to leave. Quite a lot quick to blame Jose an cite de bruyne but I think eds said that wasn't down to Jose.


11.) 10 Apr 2018 22:28:15
Sanchez is ten times the player Martial is right now. Blaming Jose for his sulky nature and lethargic style is ridiculous. Don’t get me wrong he has the potential. But he needs to work hard to get there. Where is he realistically going to be allowed to move to that are equal to Utd and actually start matches? Modern footballers wind me up no end.


12.) 11 Apr 2018 00:26:18
Martial reminds me of Nani. Extremely talented but not consistent and extremely frustrating. Not sure if it's an attitude or lifestyle problem but he needs to change.


13.) 11 Apr 2018 00:49:21
Csm, I understand those stats, but they can be misleading eg the opening day he scored and assisted with 10 minutes left, but it shows the talent. Unfortunately, He’s not progressed in 3 years, his first season here was without doubt his best. He needs to show more and just keep an eye on Tahith Chong, works his backside off and looks a top talent. I don’t think martial has the desire, so if he wants to leave, let’s get a good price and move on.


14.) 11 Apr 2018 01:12:38
Don't disagree Eric, but that 10 times the player has also been ten times the tripe and not been benched, if martial had 1 game like Sanchez had a dozen he won't be starting for most of the 12 or so Sanchez has played for us.


15.) 11 Apr 2018 05:35:26
Caolan I don't have a problem with selling martial if the replacement is someone like a dybala but mourinho will replace martial with the Croatian Ashley young because he tracks back better. 2-3 years down the line when martial would be tearing it up in a team that actually is allowed to attack we will be in a Wayne Rooney situation with 2 30+ pace merchants who would have lost their pace and will be on high wages and whichever poor sap replaces mourinho will be left dealing with the issue and again we will be in a transition period.


16.) 11 Apr 2018 09:50:23
Perisic is twice the player Martial is at the moment in the wingers position.

He will do the job Mourinho requires him to do.


17.) 11 Apr 2018 10:09:34
MARTIAL's problem is Martial. Talent but gives the impression he only does what he thinks is enough which isn't always enough. If a deal to be had is better then let him go but not cheaply.


18.) 11 Apr 2018 10:43:51
What exactly is this job Singh.

Martial pl stats- 1347 mins 9 goals 5 assists

Croatian Ashley Young serie a stats- 2686 mins 9 goals 5 assists.

Sqauwka do a defense score in their comparison matrix it reads

Croatian Ashley Young- -23.9
Anthony Martial- 60.82

Doesn't seem like a defensive stalwart by looking at those stats. Only thing Croatian Ashley Young is better at than martial is his crossing and having watched him more than a few times, it ain't something to write home about. If we sign an actually decent lb we will get a crosser most likely better than the Croatian Ashley Young.


19.) 11 Apr 2018 11:27:55
Perisic is a decent player nothing more .
Done ok at inter last couple of years nothing more . will be 30 next season.


20.) 11 Apr 2018 11:41:23
Perisic is a decent player, who has had a couple of seasons of good form. But as CSM points out he is performing at currently around the same level as Martial. However, Martial has potential to get better whereas, Perisic will only decline.

However, Perisic plays predominantly on the left, Martial supposedly isn't happy because Sanchez has taken his place. Rashford supposedly isn't happy because he isn't starting as many games as he would like and he too has predominantly played on the left for Jose.

So we have three players two of which are talented young players who all predominantly play on the left.

Lingard has stepped up this year, and Mata remains consistent, we then have Angel Gomes and Chong in particular knocking on the door.

So why do people think that if Martial leaves he will be replaced?

If he leaves we probably won't see anyone come in to replace him. Sanchez has already done that.

Jose wants at least one full back, preferably two. A centre back despite already signing two and having a super talented Tuanzebe coming through. And at least one if not two midfielders again having already signing two, and having McTominay, TFM and Andreas Pereira trying to break through.

The forward positions are bottom of the list and we will only likely see another forward join after 4-5 other players who are higher priority. Which means we won't be signing one.

So by all means wish a super talented young player away, but don't cry when he isn't replaced and he goes on to become a star else where. Just like Lukaku, De Bruyne and Salah did after Mourinho wasted their potential.


21.) 11 Apr 2018 11:58:14
Martial has been good this season when he's played. Has electric pace and the type of dribbling where it feels like the ball is glued to his foot. How many players in the world can you say that about? Add to that ice cool finishing and solid link up play. He is being wasted and will come back to haunt Mourinho like De Bruyne and Salah. Play Sanchez on the right (where he got his best goal and assist stats. Where he is comfortable playing) and Martial on the left of Lukaku. Serious skill, speed and finishing ability in that front 3 with Pogba supporting from deep.

But of course none of this is going to happen. Sanchez will play on the left to stunt Rashford and shuttle Martial out the door, while Martial will come back to piss all over us one day. Mourinho logic.


22.) 11 Apr 2018 13:11:53
Sorry but csm I don’t get why you’re comparing him to Persic, a completely different style of player? Once again thought it’s a minpulation of stats, whilst comparing two completely different players. I could find you a stat that says Milner was more creative than Scholes. I understand a lot of fans on here love martial, heck I’m a big fan of his, due to his talent but he’s not progressing on. Let me ask you this, would he have dug in on Saturday like Sanchez and tried to eat us big in the game. I don’t see the attitude from him that will make him a really top class player, that I know he can become. As snappy says there are young hungry players coming through the academy, so maybe let’s promote one and stick to the club values? Rather than spending our time on a player who has rejected a new 5 year deal (which shows the club value him) . It’s that reason why I’m not opposed to selling him.


23.) 11 Apr 2018 13:45:56
Martial isn't going yo get chances at United until Mourinho is here. Like Shappy has said Sanchez has already replaced him and if Mourinho signs another attacker it will limit his progress further.

He could be a superstar in the making but it just isn't going to happen at United unless something drastically changes.

Hr has had enough chances to prove himself at lw but hasn't really done much, stats are stats and it makes Ban Dost look like world class.


24.) 11 Apr 2018 14:01:30
So people want to sell martial?
Lot of people trying to justify the sale .
I do wonder if people would be wanting to get rid rid of him if it wasn't for the fact it's in the press .

Same goes for perisic being twice the player martial is . I doubt that would be the case if he wasn't linked to us last summer .
If martial signs a new contract has the club and Jose made a massive then reading above .
In fact are they in the wrong offering him a new contract?


25.) 11 Apr 2018 14:06:15
Perisic is twice the player Martial is at lw. Have you not seen how many times Martial loses the ball, makes wrong decisions and just stands their confused or even sulks when things don't go his way at lw.

Martial has loads of potential but not at lw. He will never be a winger unless he changes things draatically.


26.) 11 Apr 2018 14:11:48
Perisic is a lw isn't he caolan, milner scholes comparison is stupid but lw is lw styles might be different but end result expected is the same, it isn't mf where a pogba has different job to a matic. Your job as a lw is scoring or creating goals. Ronaldo and Beckham were different players with different styles but we expected both to either create or score goals. If we sign a lw we will expect him to score and create won't we?

You ask about the city, you seem to forget that it was martial who assisted lukaku in the Chelsea game for the equalizer and scored the late winner against spurs.

Also it's funny you complained about martial being inconsistent yet bring up Sanchez in comparison a player who has been nothing but inconsistent for us.


27.) 11 Apr 2018 14:16:38
Do you have some substance to back up this twice the player stance Singh because there isn't any metric out there that proves perisic is better than martial let alone being twice the player.


28.) 11 Apr 2018 14:41:39
CSM, I didn’t say Sanchez has been consistent did I? Merely pointing to the battling performance at the weekend I don’t think martial may be capable off, and he hasn’t shown that yet. Also shall we go back to that Chelsea game? He played a lovely pass to lukaku for the goal, and then was god awful after that.
And no I don’t agree that you can compare persic to martial, as all you’ve done is take statistics and use them as gospel. Don’t understand how you can say that’s a fair comparison but Milner to Scholes isn’t? Both play in the midfield don’t they?
Also if you read my post you’ll see that I don’t dislike martial, but he’s not been consistent enough, or hell even progressed. If he misses a chance his head drops, eg the Newcastle away game. He has all the talent in the world but I don’t know if he has the desire to achieve it. His movement off the ball at times is non existent, he would reluctantly go backwards, is he capable of a high press? The talent is there. He needs to work hard and fulfill that potential. I’m order to achieve that if he feels the need to leave then good luck to him. It’s the same with pogba.


29.) 11 Apr 2018 14:45:16
The main complaints about Martial is he doesn't track back, he is inconsistent, he loses the ball often and he should when things don't go his way.

Obviously the people voicing these complaints either haven't been United fans that long or they have very short memories.

All of the above could have been leveled at a 21 year old Ronaldo.

Sulks if he doesn't get the ball, inconsistent, doesn't track back, loses the ball.

Very short memories.


30.) 11 Apr 2018 14:51:53
Shappy, my criticism isn’t entirely based around work rate, but is he putting in the work Ronaldo did? We don’t know. Also the reason I’m leaning towards selling him is that the various reports state he rejected a contract. If that’s the case and he doesn’t want to be at united anymore then sell him.


31.) 11 Apr 2018 14:54:41
If Ed 2s about can you clarify it was de Bruyne who wanted to leave Chelsea. Also same with Lukaku and Salah. Apologies I know you've this before but I think it just needs to be clarified.

{Ed002's Note - De Bruyne and Salah both wanted to leave for specific reasons and Chelsea did not stand in their way. Lukaku did something which meant he would never return to Chelsea from loan and would never play for the club again.}


32.) 11 Apr 2018 15:15:03
Caolan
So if it is true that he has been offered a contract are the club and Jose wrong to offer him one based on the negatives above .

Very talent young player and people want to sell him?
I hope he stays and relises his potential at United.
Got to wonder what some on here would of thought of a young Ronaldo.
Singh
Have you actually watched perisic, he really isn't twice the player martial is .


33.) 11 Apr 2018 15:51:44
Caolan again remind me what Sanchez did other than the 2 assists before or after? He is 22 if you expect a 22 year old attacker in a jose mourinho team to be consistently brilliant either you are naive or have never watched football.

Most reports suggest that he isn't happy with the playing time which has been compounded by the signing of Sanchez, he isn't wrong in that is he. He rightfully started on the bench rather than first 11 this season because of his last season performances but then performed well enough to displace rashford and was one of our better attacking players until Sanchez arrived. Would you sign a contract if you get benched for multiple games after a single bad games but are forced to change position because a new player comes in who then proceeds to set new standards on how bad you can play but this player never gets benched.

About perisic martial comparison, you keep bringing milner and scholes in the conversation when they don't play the same position or are expected to do the same job yet ignore my Ronaldo and Beckham comparison because it doesn't suit your point. There is no real stat or fact or anything that can firmly say that perisic is better than martial so you come up with stuff like goals and assists aren't the only things we rate wingers on, fact is that is the biggest point on which people rate attackers on.

You don't want Sanchez or griezmann ahead of martial or rashford because they run more or track back but because they are better going forward and the Croatian Ashley Young ain't.


34.) 11 Apr 2018 16:01:24
Media spouts nonsense and the page goes into meltdown blaming Jose for this and that. Blah blah noise. Read what ed2 says above. None of which had anything to do with Mourinho. It’s very tiresome reacting from day to day on this stuff.

Jose hates youngsters so much he didn’t go to school and won’t talk to his children until they’re 25.

{Ed001's Note - that's not true Jose loves kids, on toast with a bit of cheese, but he couldn't eat a whole one...}


35.) 11 Apr 2018 16:31:49
Eric, I believe both Salah and De Bruyne left Chelsea for more playing time, in fact for any playing time as he wouldn't pick them.

Are you suggesting that Jose doesn't get to pick the team?

Jose may not have activity tried to sell them, but he didn't give them a chance. So they had to leave to further their careers.

No one is saying Martial, Shaw and Rashford want to leave United because they have it in Manchester, not is anyone saying they are being forced out by Jose. Merely Jose doesn't trust young players, he doesn't progress them as he doesn't create an environment for them to flourish. He would rather sign older players because Jose doesn't think about next season or the future of the club he is working for, he only cares about this season and how many trophies he can win for Jose Mourinho.

That is why he is a short term manager, and unless he wins the title next season he won't be our manager by the start of the 2019/ 20 season.

{Ed002's Note - No it was not really the situation with either player, it was more complex than that.}


36.) 11 Apr 2018 16:38:04
So where have I put down persic is better mate? And I’ll comment on Ronaldo and Beckham if you want. Two completely contrasting styles of players yet again. Only here for a bit of a debate and to give my opinion. No need to call me naive or question whether I’ve watched a game. At the end of the day you have your opinion, and I may not agree with it but it’s not me having a go, because we all have an opinion and no one is right or wrong. Last I’m going to say on the matter.


37.) 11 Apr 2018 16:55:31
And sorry I just seen the question about whether the club should offer him a new deal from Jred.
I’m reaponse mate, if the club feel he can fulfill his potential and he’s willing to work hard to do so then off course like I said earlier. There’s no doubting his potential at all the main reason I’m saying about getting rid of him is the fact that he’s apparently turned this deal down. My point is I don’t think he’d be as missed as people say, but it’s only my opinion.
At the end of the day I’d love him to stay here and become a legend, score 200+ goals. However, at this moment I don’t see that happening. I hope I’m wrong, but if he wants out, let him out. Last I’m saying.


38.) 11 Apr 2018 17:08:25
Didn't mean to cause offense caolan, sorry if i have. But it is annoying when people expect consistency from 22 year old attackers especially given our attacking play.


39.) 11 Apr 2018 17:10:59
When Ronaldo was here it was a differenr situation . We had fergie as our manager, we didn't have to compete with 4 other possible premier league challengers . We had a proper defence had a very good midfield had Tevez and Rooney and vannisteroy so we couldve carried a 21 year old inconsistent Ronaldo and even then he Ronaldo showed more skill then Martial has in his time here.


40.) 11 Apr 2018 17:20:35
No worries CSM. I’m not expecting Ronaldo/ Messi performances but I get frustrated with him because of how much ability he has, and I’m sure there are many who want to see a hell of a lot more from him because we know that potential.


41.) 11 Apr 2018 18:00:32
Singh
After reading all that then you want to sell him?


42.) 11 Apr 2018 18:28:37
Shappy he can only play 11 players at a time. Jose thinks sanchez is better than martial. I agree with him. He also thinks at this time that rashford is a better option than martial. I agree with him. He thinks lukaku is a better option i agree with him.
Its just The managers preference.
Lampard said last night that he never saw the potential in salah nobody at chelsea did and his leaving had nothing to do with jose personally nor did kdb leaving.


43.) 11 Apr 2018 19:03:49
Looks like I’m massively in the minority but if it were a simple case (which it isn’t of course, with £/ age factors) of Martial or Bale, I’d have Bale every time. So he’s much older, past his prime and with a questionable injury history. But he’s still got plenty left in the tank. Martial was a panic buy worth nothing like what was paid and has never been as good as his debut against Liverpool. Next Henry? Give me a break, he’s not on the same planet.


44.) 11 Apr 2018 19:14:35
Again Jred its about if Martial can be happy being part of the squad then he should stay but if he wants more game and if Mourinho isn't going to give him assurance then for his own career he should move elsewhere to get the game time he badly desires.

I would keep him if i was in charge at the club but i am not and i am here debating with you like many others.

You can't keep everyone happy and if Martial really wants to fight for his place and like mentioned in the media the contract is on the table foe him then he should sign it and fight for his player like everyone else.

If i was him personally i would make a move and get the game time i so badly want.

There are so many good clubs around the world he can make a name wirh foe himself.


45.) 11 Apr 2018 21:19:51
Singh
You seem to of given a lot of reasons to get rid of him.


46.) 11 Apr 2018 22:48:26
I don’t really post on here much just like reading everyone’s opinions but this thread is ridiculous.

Also I don’t know if you guys played football or if you did to what standard but if I was either martial or Rashford I’d be looking to the likes of Sanchez and Lukaku etc and saying help me. Looking at these players day in day out should show you what you need to improve yourself.

Martial has bags of potential BUT does he want to fight for his place and prove that he deserves to stay there? Does he try and adapt his game to fit playing right wing? Is he trying to develop himself after training etc or does he go home straight away? We don’t know the answers to these questions so therefore we don’t have that much knowledge on the matter.

I also seem to remember an attacking midfielder that had was better than Wayne Rooney when we signed him, he had bags of potential to. that was ANDERSON. Great potential turned into an average player.

Talent doesn’t automatically mean your going to be a star, you still have to work and dedicate yourself to the game so that you can maximise your potential e.g Ronaldo.

I don’t want him to leave but the club may see him strolling around in training not over bothered, bad attitude etc, not willing to learn blah blah blah. They are in the best possible position to make a decision on getting rid of him.


47.) 11 Apr 2018 23:15:15
Gazza91 top post that.


48.) 12 Apr 2018 08:29:54
Gaza
If that was the case why would they offer him a new contract.


49.) 12 Apr 2018 16:21:11
So if the player wants to leave should we keep him jred?


50.) 12 Apr 2018 18:18:11
Ken
If he wants to leave and won't sign a contract then it would be best to let him go .

But all this we should sell because of x y z are a bit silly imo .
If there were not rumours in the papers very few would want to sell a very talented young player .


51.) 12 Apr 2018 23:09:22
I wanted him to go on loan this season i feared that this would be The situation if he didn't. He actually got more game time than i thought he would be given.
He does have potential and now we are 1 year further down the line and we are none the wiser and he is no closer to fulfilling that potential if he had a hreat season in italy or spain then at least he would be coming back proven and confident and be a more rounded and experienced player. But now starved of meaningful gametime we have forced him into a corner.
But to be fair he hasn't forced himself into the team either.
Hindsight is 20/ 20 vision i suppose.


52.) 13 Apr 2018 10:13:03
He has been offered a 5 year contract which talks you a lot .
40 appearances so far in the EPL only lukaku has scored more
If he had went out on loan would he of gained more than that?
Who would of taking up the slack of him not being here?
How would his situation now of been any different, lukaku Sanchez etc would still be at the club he would still want reasurrences over his playing time .
New contract with a lot of other options as he is a top player, big decision .


 

 

 

Park3lung's banter posts with other poster's replies to Park3lung's banter posts

 

21 Mar 2019 12:13:24
Whilst I don’t think pogba’s comments are great I think people need to relax a bit. This is what happens every international break. It’s a slow news day and the media just want to stir up drama.

Ed002 has told us real’s interest has gone. Pogba didn’t say real was THE dream club but A dream club. That’s hard to argue with. It’s a massive club and for most players it is a dream. He also said he’s happy at united under ole. Funnily enough people have ignored that part.

Pogba does infuriate me at Times. Massively talented but also can go missing for games at a time. But there are very few players in the world with his talents. Losing him would be a disaster going forward. It would take 2 players to replace him. We need to retain players of his calibre and build the team around players like him. Not sell him. I rarely listen to what the media says these days. It’s always clickbait. Just look at the rubbish they print every time hazard goes away with Belgium. Just trying to sell papers.

Park3lung

1.) 21 Mar 2019 13:03:06
You’re right about that. We’d need one top class player to replace him for the games he turns up for, and a bang average one for the games where he can’t be arsed.


2.) 21 Mar 2019 13:33:03
Park I’m one of those who commented below and honestly I am very relax. For me the best way is talk less and show more on the pitch. When one has achieved greatness, the softest of whisper will be very loud and positive. Pogba has not achieved greatness yet and I have no doubt he could one day. Till then he should just concentrate and not dwell into controversial subjects. Leave that to the manager. That way more people would trust him and be less critical of him I feel 😉.


3.) 21 Mar 2019 14:50:09
Danny if you look at city they are littered with quality in midfield. When pogba has an off game or is marked out the game our attacking plan goes down the pan. That should not be the case for a club the size of united. We should have 2/ 3 ball players in midfield that can create and supply our forward line. I like matic but we need to upgrade. Same potentially for Herrera. Matches are won in midfield and we just don’t have the quality to compete or dominate against top quality opposition. So selling someone of pogba’s quality is a hindrance to our progression and would set us back in our pursuit for the top honours. I can’t name many midfielders in the world that would improve on him. And the ones I can are unattainable.


4.) 21 Mar 2019 14:51:32
Park, like others I am very relaxed about this situation.

If Pogba wants to leave then let him go and if he wants to stay then I have no problem either.

He needs to up his game if he wants to be irreplaceable at Utd.

If he turned up in every game then he could boss the midfield on his own. That’s the talent he has but we don’t see enough of it.


5.) 21 Mar 2019 15:49:50
At City, the team is built around Pep’s system, and the players adapt to this.

For Pogba to play at his best, the team needs to be built around him. That is what Ole has done over the last few months: putting Pogba in front of two holding players with three quick attackers making runs in front of him. Fair enough, it has worked pretty well all in all.

There are two issues with this. First, because the team is set up around Pogba, if he doesn’t turn up or can’t be arsed, the team performance is going suffer. Second, and most importantly, there is absolutely no sense in building the team around a player who is looking to leave the club. Ed002 has been telling us for the two years that Pogba and his agent are actively trying to secure a move elsewhere. Part of this was down to his poor relationship with Jose, but his recent comments about Real show that he isn’t committed to the club long term.


6.) 21 Mar 2019 17:11:38
TOP Top post Danny and 666. It is time for us to move on from pogba. I will be so gutted to see City sign Niguez who desperately wanted to play in England and we had a great chance of singing him a couple yesrs ago but instead we signed a player who never wanted to come to us in the first place!


7.) 22 Mar 2019 00:56:48
Danny, that first post is hilarious 🤣.


8.) 22 Mar 2019 05:54:55
Well said Park. If Pogba leaves, we will loose further quality in our team.

Rash, Martial, Lukaku and many others have very poor games often. Still it's Pogba who is always scrutinized.
Young often looses his marker. Shaw makes those sprints up and down very rarely.
But at the end of the game, fans and Pundits both slam Pogba.

We must also realize that this is the first time in years, he has played in his natural position. And he has delivered in 80% of those games.
Although he looses possession, he atleast tries to make those difficult passes.
Our midfield will be flat without him.


9.) 22 Mar 2019 20:56:29
I'm surprised that people think Pogba is any good because to my mind he is a pretty average player.

All players have mental and physical abilities and although Pogba has physical talent, he doesn't have the mental ability to be a top player. It doesn't matter what he might be capable of because it happens so erratically it could almost be accident. if you try something enough times eventually it will come off. Top players do it week in, week out.

Pogba has what is called in Argentina 'Pecho Frio' which as a direct translation is 'cold chest' but means no heart. And that's Pogba - no heart.

Remember, when Pogba doesn't turn up, he is taking the place of a better player we could have in the team who can be bothered every week.


 

 

20 Mar 2019 09:58:17
Hi Ed002 is there any truth in .....

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{Ed002's Note - Wrong page.}


1.) 21 Mar 2019 18:00:35
Is there any truth in the fact there is no truth?


 

 

17 Mar 2019 18:24:02
Banter please Eds. Yesterday was extremely poor. I feel really deflated today if I’m honest. The last two results have knocked the winds out of our sail’s. However, I don’t want to be a prisoner of the moment and declare all doom and gloom. I don’t want to ignore the 3 months of progress in light of two poor results. Likewise, I don’t want to ignore the fact that we have looked poor recently.

Just want to touch on wolves. They were brilliant and they deserved to win. Nuno is an excellent manager and they simply wanted it more than us. They’ve taken points off the other top 6 so it was never going to be easy. They have a quality midfield with neves particularly impressing me. I like him and we should be after him in the summer. Jimenez was a handful. He’s a proper old school no 9 . I hope they go on and win it now.

In contrast, we were very poor. Not one player had a decent game. Moved the ball too slowly and hardly looked a threat. The midfield were shocking. We had far too many players who had just returned from injury. Martial and lingard were ineffective. Martial really needs to improve his work off the ball and his movement. If there is anything that will hold him back then it’s that side of his game. Matic and Herrera off the pace. That’s a quarter of the side not playing to their potential. Add rashford and pogba to that we half our side haven’t turned up. You can’t expect to win when that happens.

I think mctominay and Fred have been a bit hard done by. Not the former’s biggest fan but he was brilliant when matic was out. Both these players should have been retained so that the injured players can slowly be introduced. This is a mistake by ole and the management.

Rashford looks to have suffered a dip in form. Not sure if he’s carrying and injury still but he doesn’t look himself. Predictably too many in our fan base on Twitter are laying into him. I’m not concerned. We’ve played a lot of football and he will pick up again because he’s a quality player. I think the main worry is that whenever pogba doesn’t turn up then we can’t play. This is something that must be addressed in the summer. He also needs to be more consistent. He goes missing far too often and for a player of his calibre that needs to improve.

I don’t think ole can be judged after two defeats the same way he cannot be judged on two victories. If you look at what he’s done, he deserves the opportunity to improve this squad. However, whilst my heart rules my head on this issue, there is this niggling feeling that we would be missing a trick not going for Poch. Yes the wheels have fallen off a bit at Spurs. But his past 4/ 5 years shouldn’t go unnoticed. We will see what happens but ole have to get these boys firing again. The few weeks off will do us good. Not feeling it now but I’m sure I’ll be buzzing when the next game comes around.

Park3lung

1.) 18 Mar 2019 01:24:24
His past 4/ 5 years of having the wheels fall off every season, inclduing the Leicester season when the league was theirs for the taking? Or his past 4/ 5 years of winning nothing but breaking in to the top 4 off the back of teams like Chelsea, Arsenal and ourselves going into a tailspin?

Don't get me wrong, Poch is obviously a great manager but we need to look beyond just Ole (who, if we can sort out all the background drama, I would appoint) vs Poch. There is a wealth of good coaches out there and some of them having actually won trophies.


2.) 18 Mar 2019 06:44:36
What is happening with Allegri? That is someone we should if we could consider, but I recall Ed saying we may have had him in an old plan plan and let him down. We should consider him.

{Ed002's Note - Allegri will almost certainly leave Juventus this summer and has a very good job option lines up elsewhere - not at Manchester UNited.}


3.) 18 Mar 2019 12:02:04
Ed002, do Juventus have an idea of who they would like to appoint as his replacement?

{Ed002's Note - They wanted Zidane or Deschamps but have now got another in mind. It does not impact Manchester United.}


4.) 18 Mar 2019 18:12:25
Thank you Ed002.


 

 

15 Mar 2019 11:58:27
Probably the worst draw but I’m absolutely buzzing! This is what the champions League is about. These are the sort of matches that old Trafford deserves. These are the sort of nights that will be remembered for years to come. We have the attacking players to trouble Barcelona on the counter. It will be damn hard. Containing Messi will be a challenge. But this is not the Barcelona teams of the past. We can do it. I’m so excited!

Park3lung

1.) 15 Mar 2019 12:29:41
This is what it’s all about, bring it on!

We never imagined we’d have CL QF fixtures to look forward to back at the start of December. Let’s make the most of it!


2.) 15 Mar 2019 12:30:05
I think it's a great draw, can't wait.


3.) 15 Mar 2019 12:53:25
we owe Barcelona a defeat after the 2 final losses.


4.) 15 Mar 2019 13:44:38
Worst draw possible but is what it is.


5.) 15 Mar 2019 16:44:13
I cannot wait, so happy with the draw, I think Liverpool or city would have been a much worse draw, let's show the world what we can do against the best team left in it, if we don't win then so be it.


6.) 15 Mar 2019 16:47:11
Worse draw ever? I honestly can't wait it's what being a football fan is about .


7.) 15 Mar 2019 17:14:15
Worst as in worst team we could have got in order to progress to the next round. Fairly obvious pal.


8.) 15 Mar 2019 19:00:39
To win this trophy we'd have to beat a team of this quality at some stage so we may as well look forward to it. You never know we might even put it up to them, after Paris anything is possible!


9.) 15 Mar 2019 23:06:00
If you want to win the CL you e got to play and beat the best. Simples.


10.) 16 Mar 2019 04:47:09
I don’t think it’s the worst draw. essentially we have a shot to nothing; no one thought we’d get past PSG, and we’re underdogs again, losing wouldn’t be embarrassing, so it’s set up to be a proper united champions league tie!


11.) 16 Mar 2019 08:29:24
Got to beat the best teams to win the CL .


 

 

10 Mar 2019 18:48:42
Bad day at the office today. Had a bit of a bad feeling today and just felt like we wouldn’t be at the races. We looked sluggish and flat for the first 30. I don’t think the formation helped and when changed we looked better. Started the second half well and we created a lot of chances. I thought Lukaku should have buried a few of his chances today. His finishing was poor but his overall play was excellent. He is brimming with confidence but his finishing really let him down.

We were bound to have a loss and unfortunately it came in a massive game for top 4. Call me cynical but I think top is gone with arsenal’s Run in being so easy. I would put all our eggs in one basket for the champions league tbh. Shaw was brilliant once again and j thought Fred was really good at times today. Rashford looks like he’s carrying an injury. We should not get too down about today. We learn from this and go again.

Park3lung

1.) 10 Mar 2019 19:01:46
Well spurs aren’t exactly secure in 3rd and games aren’t played on paper, arsenal will drop points same as us and Chelsea and spurs, a way to go yet, we wasn’t quite at it, we still was the better team in terms of chances created, one of them days.


2.) 10 Mar 2019 20:10:01
Still 8 games left if we can win the games coming up and are still within a sniff come the city Chelsea games I think we will be fine.

Spurs have had games left.

Could come down to the Chelsea game for a top 4 place.


3.) 10 Mar 2019 20:45:05
The togetherness and positivity around the club has been incredible recently. Not going to feel too down about a game that just didn't go our way.

Yes we have to be more clinical in front of goal. Yes Dave the Save made a bad error in reading the shot. Yes the penalty was a soft as the turf under Steven Gerrards boot. But I thought we were always in the game and some days you just pick yourself up and go again.

We can still finish ahead of Arsenal and Chelsea and maybe Tottenham. Lot of football to be played yet.

In Ole we trust :)


4.) 10 Mar 2019 20:51:00
Massive loss a win I think would have pushed Arsenal out of the race for top 4, we cannot afford to drop points to city and Chelsea now. With spurs and Chelsea dropping points we could have put ourself into strong position, maybe the wake up call some of our players need after celebrating Wednesday like they won the quadruple.


5.) 10 Mar 2019 22:02:20
Jaime,

Do you think they shouldn’t have celebrated like that on Wednesday after one of the best nights in our history?


6.) 10 Mar 2019 23:49:19
Beaten at our own game today maybe even guilty of believing in our own hype.

The first 30 minutes weren't good enough. There was a real lack of intensity and aggression. We were passive and allowed Arsenal to grow in confidence. Matic looked rusty and well off the pace. A De Gea howler and Matic had to close the shot down quicker, the way he just ambled out was criminal especially in such a big game. The work rate and desire was missing for 30 mins. I don't mind sitting deep but there must be pressure on the ball and a desire to close down when the opposition enter the final third.

The second half was better and we pressed higher but Arsenal always looked dangerous on the break. Fred was guilty of carelessly giving the ball away in a really good attacking position and they go straight down the other end and he gives a stupid penalty away. Ok it was soft but there is no need to make that challenge, show him down the line and block the cross. He made two bad mistakes in a matters of minutes and we got punished. On such fine margins games are won and lost. Stay in the game, considering other results a draw would have been more than acceptable in a difficult away fixture.

For me the desire and work rate was missing today. Yes we created chances but we were timid and that real desire and hunger to close down and put the opposition under pressure was lacking. Arsenal beat us at our own game. We never looked secure and they always looked likely to catch us on the break. From an attacking perspective we were guilty of not releasing the ball quickly enough and getting caught in possession.

It's hard to be too critical but after Wednesday I expected us to be flying. I thought we'd at least get a point and feel we've missed a huge opportunity. I just can't help feeling disappointed.

Maybe I'm being a touch harsh but I'm now judging us from a higher standard. Too many individual errors and a lack of intensity cost us the game today.


7.) 10 Mar 2019 23:24:16
Jaime Jaime Jaime. Get real🤔🤔.


8.) 11 Mar 2019 05:44:05
With Martial returning, our attack will improve even more.

imo, we had the best chances in the game. The strikers had an off game.


 

 

 

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22 Mar 2019 09:42:33
Thanks for the swift response ed.

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Thanks very much ed.

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04 Mar 2019 23:24:06
Sailor I think at the end of the day we have to acknowledge that the club is a business. And we are run to businessman (unfortunately) . But I agree if it was my choice I would let him and others leave for free.

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04 Mar 2019 21:30:17
I agree ken. The only reason I can see us resigning Jones is so that we don’t lose an asset for nothing. It may be a way of making sure he doesn’t walk out for nothing. Just my thoughts.

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04 Mar 2019 19:20:48
Very interesting thanks for the update ed. Apologies if you have mentioned it before but which rbs are we interested in?

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{Ed002's Note - Florenzi was the player Jose Mourinho had scouted but I doubt he would be interested in the move after he declared that Dalot was up to stepping up.}


 

 

 

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23 Mar 2019 06:48:24
Welcome to the mad house mate!

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22 Mar 2019 16:27:07
He’s a rare breed these days Stevie. Ultimate professional and top bloke.

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22 Mar 2019 12:32:28
Agree completely MBD and Shappy. Really good posts.

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21 Mar 2019 14:50:09
Danny if you look at city they are littered with quality in midfield. When pogba has an off game or is marked out the game our attacking plan goes down the pan. That should not be the case for a club the size of united. We should have 2/ 3 ball players in midfield that can create and supply our forward line. I like matic but we need to upgrade. Same potentially for Herrera. Matches are won in midfield and we just don’t have the quality to compete or dominate against top quality opposition. So selling someone of pogba’s quality is a hindrance to our progression and would set us back in our pursuit for the top honours. I can’t name many midfielders in the world that would improve on him. And the ones I can are unattainable.

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15 Mar 2019 13:35:02
I was such a massive fan of his at Arsenal. When he scored 30 goals he was arguably the best player in the league. On the face of it, it seemed a no brained to sign a player of his calibre. We all thought that his poor form in his final 6 months at arsenal was due to wanting to leave. But in actual fact he seems in decline. There are shades of Torres at Chelsea with Sanchez. He has lost that yard of space to play on the wing and perhaps wants to play centrally. However, pogba is better than him there so the bets he can hope for is a squad player. I would love to see him come good but it’s very unlikely. Think we need to shift him off the wage bill and bring in a young, quality rw.

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