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15 May 2018 10:20:26
Hi Ed002 is you are around hope you are well mate. I know you said we had interest in alex Sandro but is he now our first choice target for left back? Thanks.

Park3lung

{Ed002's Note - I can't help with transfers any longer, sorry.}


1.) 15 May 2018 10:41:41
No problem thanks ed.


2.) 15 May 2018 12:32:14
If there is any truth in Sandro at 50 mill and the lad from Napoli as right back who seems highly rated at 44 mill -I don't pretend to know much about him -then Shaw and Darmian out as directly replaced for a net spend of 60 mill for a key part of defence with added attacking flair seems a good deal.


3.) 15 May 2018 12:52:37
would be a great pair of signings if true burrenway. I like Hysaj he looks a very good player. Only time will tell!


4.) 15 May 2018 12:25:31
Ed002 - is there any light at the end of the tunnel? When will you be back?

{Ed002's Note - Right now there is no plan to do anything involving transfers any longer.}


5.) 15 May 2018 14:46:53
Yes Park3lung, a bit of pace and flair going forward. I would then hope TFM comes into the first team squad as a back up rb to get him some real experience.


6.) 15 May 2018 17:41:54
Ed002 i am very sorry to hear that. I hope that there comes a time when this is all resolved and we have the pleasure of your wise words once more.

{Ed002's Note - Thanks, we'll see.}


7.) 15 May 2018 21:13:54
Most of us echo those thoughts Pogthedog, this site is a better place with Ed002 on board.


8.) 15 May 2018 22:41:22
Ultimately United will but whoever they buy.

{Ed033's Note - Sounds painful and unnecessary :)


 

 

10 Apr 2018 16:18:06
Hi Ed are the rumours of martial looking to leave in the summer true? Be bitterly disappointed if they are.

Park3lung

{Ed025's Note - i suspect he is angling for some more game time myself park..


1.) 10 Apr 2018 16:31:51
Smacks of short termism Ed if you ask me. I know he is not the finished article but if Jose really is looking to replace him with a 29 year old injury prone Gareth bale then I will be pretty livid.

Can’t blame martial he has 21 goals this season in all comps second only to Lukaku and played far less games. This has a feeling of De Bruyne if you ask me. Just my humble opinion 😂. Would much rather he was sent on loan.

{Ed025's Note - a loan to everton sounds good to me park..i love the guy..


2.) 10 Apr 2018 17:17:21
I’m fairly certain marital has 12 goals. he's a fantastic talent but doesn’t perform consistently enough, and if he doesn’t want to be here then get rid. If he does want to stay, he needs to get his head down and work hard.


3.) 10 Apr 2018 17:58:57
My mistake caolan was meant to say goals and assist. All together it would be 19 not 21. Agreed mate consistency is a problem but getting rid would be a huge mistake. If he wants regular play time a loan is better.


4.) 10 Apr 2018 16:46:50
Would be a great move ed he would get regular game time and in the premier league. But only if big sam is not managing him. A fonesca or Marco silva would do nicely! Fingers crossed he isn’t leaving but I’m not optimistic unfortunately. Thanks for your input as always ed much appreciated.

{Ed025's Note - no problem mate..


5.) 10 Apr 2018 18:25:30
This will be our kdb moment and given who the coach is not a surprise.


6.) 10 Apr 2018 18:40:48
Need to remember he is still young and developing. To maximise his potential he needs to play. I can’t blame the lad for looking elsewhere. The club took his number off him after he was trying to build a brand, we then bought Sanchez and moved him from his favoured position to the right. We then did not give him a run of games to get use to being on the right and then dropped him.

It does not demonstrate that he is valued. More gives the impression of you are here to make up the numbers and will be moved around or messed around as soon as we sign somebody else. I would be gutted if he left.


7.) 10 Apr 2018 19:29:29
I wanted him loaned out this season. He needs to play to improve and the scope for improvement is huge.


8.) 10 Apr 2018 19:38:01
Don’t be agree or get the love in with Martial. He’s a 1 in 5 player, and he needs to work hard every single day he’s here to prove he’s worth his chance.

We vastly overpaid for him in desperation and has been ok, but Rashford stays and plays more then fine by me.

Of course he could be awesome and fingers crossed it’s more media nonsense and he becomes a world class talent for us but he’s a striker not a winger.


9.) 10 Apr 2018 19:56:07
Caolan this is utd player's minutes per goals or assists ratio.

Lukaku- 110 mins per goal/ assist
Rashford- 111 mins
Lingard- 108 mins
Martial- 103 mins

Looks more like we just don't give him a consistent enough run to actually let him perform well consistently. He was utd player of the month 3 times this season until the 500k man arrived then mourinho did what he does best with young attacking players.


10.) 10 Apr 2018 20:50:03
Is it a case of the manager wants rid or the player wants to leave. Quite a lot quick to blame Jose an cite de bruyne but I think eds said that wasn't down to Jose.


11.) 10 Apr 2018 22:28:15
Sanchez is ten times the player Martial is right now. Blaming Jose for his sulky nature and lethargic style is ridiculous. Don’t get me wrong he has the potential. But he needs to work hard to get there. Where is he realistically going to be allowed to move to that are equal to Utd and actually start matches? Modern footballers wind me up no end.


12.) 11 Apr 2018 00:26:18
Martial reminds me of Nani. Extremely talented but not consistent and extremely frustrating. Not sure if it's an attitude or lifestyle problem but he needs to change.


13.) 11 Apr 2018 00:49:21
Csm, I understand those stats, but they can be misleading eg the opening day he scored and assisted with 10 minutes left, but it shows the talent. Unfortunately, He’s not progressed in 3 years, his first season here was without doubt his best. He needs to show more and just keep an eye on Tahith Chong, works his backside off and looks a top talent. I don’t think martial has the desire, so if he wants to leave, let’s get a good price and move on.


14.) 11 Apr 2018 01:12:38
Don't disagree Eric, but that 10 times the player has also been ten times the tripe and not been benched, if martial had 1 game like Sanchez had a dozen he won't be starting for most of the 12 or so Sanchez has played for us.


15.) 11 Apr 2018 05:35:26
Caolan I don't have a problem with selling martial if the replacement is someone like a dybala but mourinho will replace martial with the Croatian Ashley young because he tracks back better. 2-3 years down the line when martial would be tearing it up in a team that actually is allowed to attack we will be in a Wayne Rooney situation with 2 30+ pace merchants who would have lost their pace and will be on high wages and whichever poor sap replaces mourinho will be left dealing with the issue and again we will be in a transition period.


16.) 11 Apr 2018 09:50:23
Perisic is twice the player Martial is at the moment in the wingers position.

He will do the job Mourinho requires him to do.


17.) 11 Apr 2018 10:09:34
MARTIAL's problem is Martial. Talent but gives the impression he only does what he thinks is enough which isn't always enough. If a deal to be had is better then let him go but not cheaply.


18.) 11 Apr 2018 10:43:51
What exactly is this job Singh.

Martial pl stats- 1347 mins 9 goals 5 assists

Croatian Ashley Young serie a stats- 2686 mins 9 goals 5 assists.

Sqauwka do a defense score in their comparison matrix it reads

Croatian Ashley Young- -23.9
Anthony Martial- 60.82

Doesn't seem like a defensive stalwart by looking at those stats. Only thing Croatian Ashley Young is better at than martial is his crossing and having watched him more than a few times, it ain't something to write home about. If we sign an actually decent lb we will get a crosser most likely better than the Croatian Ashley Young.


19.) 11 Apr 2018 11:27:55
Perisic is a decent player nothing more .
Done ok at inter last couple of years nothing more . will be 30 next season.


20.) 11 Apr 2018 11:41:23
Perisic is a decent player, who has had a couple of seasons of good form. But as CSM points out he is performing at currently around the same level as Martial. However, Martial has potential to get better whereas, Perisic will only decline.

However, Perisic plays predominantly on the left, Martial supposedly isn't happy because Sanchez has taken his place. Rashford supposedly isn't happy because he isn't starting as many games as he would like and he too has predominantly played on the left for Jose.

So we have three players two of which are talented young players who all predominantly play on the left.

Lingard has stepped up this year, and Mata remains consistent, we then have Angel Gomes and Chong in particular knocking on the door.

So why do people think that if Martial leaves he will be replaced?

If he leaves we probably won't see anyone come in to replace him. Sanchez has already done that.

Jose wants at least one full back, preferably two. A centre back despite already signing two and having a super talented Tuanzebe coming through. And at least one if not two midfielders again having already signing two, and having McTominay, TFM and Andreas Pereira trying to break through.

The forward positions are bottom of the list and we will only likely see another forward join after 4-5 other players who are higher priority. Which means we won't be signing one.

So by all means wish a super talented young player away, but don't cry when he isn't replaced and he goes on to become a star else where. Just like Lukaku, De Bruyne and Salah did after Mourinho wasted their potential.


21.) 11 Apr 2018 11:58:14
Martial has been good this season when he's played. Has electric pace and the type of dribbling where it feels like the ball is glued to his foot. How many players in the world can you say that about? Add to that ice cool finishing and solid link up play. He is being wasted and will come back to haunt Mourinho like De Bruyne and Salah. Play Sanchez on the right (where he got his best goal and assist stats. Where he is comfortable playing) and Martial on the left of Lukaku. Serious skill, speed and finishing ability in that front 3 with Pogba supporting from deep.

But of course none of this is going to happen. Sanchez will play on the left to stunt Rashford and shuttle Martial out the door, while Martial will come back to piss all over us one day. Mourinho logic.


22.) 11 Apr 2018 13:11:53
Sorry but csm I don’t get why you’re comparing him to Persic, a completely different style of player? Once again thought it’s a minpulation of stats, whilst comparing two completely different players. I could find you a stat that says Milner was more creative than Scholes. I understand a lot of fans on here love martial, heck I’m a big fan of his, due to his talent but he’s not progressing on. Let me ask you this, would he have dug in on Saturday like Sanchez and tried to eat us big in the game. I don’t see the attitude from him that will make him a really top class player, that I know he can become. As snappy says there are young hungry players coming through the academy, so maybe let’s promote one and stick to the club values? Rather than spending our time on a player who has rejected a new 5 year deal (which shows the club value him) . It’s that reason why I’m not opposed to selling him.


23.) 11 Apr 2018 13:45:56
Martial isn't going yo get chances at United until Mourinho is here. Like Shappy has said Sanchez has already replaced him and if Mourinho signs another attacker it will limit his progress further.

He could be a superstar in the making but it just isn't going to happen at United unless something drastically changes.

Hr has had enough chances to prove himself at lw but hasn't really done much, stats are stats and it makes Ban Dost look like world class.


24.) 11 Apr 2018 14:01:30
So people want to sell martial?
Lot of people trying to justify the sale .
I do wonder if people would be wanting to get rid rid of him if it wasn't for the fact it's in the press .

Same goes for perisic being twice the player martial is . I doubt that would be the case if he wasn't linked to us last summer .
If martial signs a new contract has the club and Jose made a massive then reading above .
In fact are they in the wrong offering him a new contract?


25.) 11 Apr 2018 14:06:15
Perisic is twice the player Martial is at lw. Have you not seen how many times Martial loses the ball, makes wrong decisions and just stands their confused or even sulks when things don't go his way at lw.

Martial has loads of potential but not at lw. He will never be a winger unless he changes things draatically.


26.) 11 Apr 2018 14:11:48
Perisic is a lw isn't he caolan, milner scholes comparison is stupid but lw is lw styles might be different but end result expected is the same, it isn't mf where a pogba has different job to a matic. Your job as a lw is scoring or creating goals. Ronaldo and Beckham were different players with different styles but we expected both to either create or score goals. If we sign a lw we will expect him to score and create won't we?

You ask about the city, you seem to forget that it was martial who assisted lukaku in the Chelsea game for the equalizer and scored the late winner against spurs.

Also it's funny you complained about martial being inconsistent yet bring up Sanchez in comparison a player who has been nothing but inconsistent for us.


27.) 11 Apr 2018 14:16:38
Do you have some substance to back up this twice the player stance Singh because there isn't any metric out there that proves perisic is better than martial let alone being twice the player.


28.) 11 Apr 2018 14:41:39
CSM, I didn’t say Sanchez has been consistent did I? Merely pointing to the battling performance at the weekend I don’t think martial may be capable off, and he hasn’t shown that yet. Also shall we go back to that Chelsea game? He played a lovely pass to lukaku for the goal, and then was god awful after that.
And no I don’t agree that you can compare persic to martial, as all you’ve done is take statistics and use them as gospel. Don’t understand how you can say that’s a fair comparison but Milner to Scholes isn’t? Both play in the midfield don’t they?
Also if you read my post you’ll see that I don’t dislike martial, but he’s not been consistent enough, or hell even progressed. If he misses a chance his head drops, eg the Newcastle away game. He has all the talent in the world but I don’t know if he has the desire to achieve it. His movement off the ball at times is non existent, he would reluctantly go backwards, is he capable of a high press? The talent is there. He needs to work hard and fulfill that potential. I’m order to achieve that if he feels the need to leave then good luck to him. It’s the same with pogba.


29.) 11 Apr 2018 14:45:16
The main complaints about Martial is he doesn't track back, he is inconsistent, he loses the ball often and he should when things don't go his way.

Obviously the people voicing these complaints either haven't been United fans that long or they have very short memories.

All of the above could have been leveled at a 21 year old Ronaldo.

Sulks if he doesn't get the ball, inconsistent, doesn't track back, loses the ball.

Very short memories.


30.) 11 Apr 2018 14:51:53
Shappy, my criticism isn’t entirely based around work rate, but is he putting in the work Ronaldo did? We don’t know. Also the reason I’m leaning towards selling him is that the various reports state he rejected a contract. If that’s the case and he doesn’t want to be at united anymore then sell him.


31.) 11 Apr 2018 14:54:41
If Ed 2s about can you clarify it was de Bruyne who wanted to leave Chelsea. Also same with Lukaku and Salah. Apologies I know you've this before but I think it just needs to be clarified.

{Ed002's Note - De Bruyne and Salah both wanted to leave for specific reasons and Chelsea did not stand in their way. Lukaku did something which meant he would never return to Chelsea from loan and would never play for the club again.}


32.) 11 Apr 2018 15:15:03
Caolan
So if it is true that he has been offered a contract are the club and Jose wrong to offer him one based on the negatives above .

Very talent young player and people want to sell him?
I hope he stays and relises his potential at United.
Got to wonder what some on here would of thought of a young Ronaldo.
Singh
Have you actually watched perisic, he really isn't twice the player martial is .


33.) 11 Apr 2018 15:51:44
Caolan again remind me what Sanchez did other than the 2 assists before or after? He is 22 if you expect a 22 year old attacker in a jose mourinho team to be consistently brilliant either you are naive or have never watched football.

Most reports suggest that he isn't happy with the playing time which has been compounded by the signing of Sanchez, he isn't wrong in that is he. He rightfully started on the bench rather than first 11 this season because of his last season performances but then performed well enough to displace rashford and was one of our better attacking players until Sanchez arrived. Would you sign a contract if you get benched for multiple games after a single bad games but are forced to change position because a new player comes in who then proceeds to set new standards on how bad you can play but this player never gets benched.

About perisic martial comparison, you keep bringing milner and scholes in the conversation when they don't play the same position or are expected to do the same job yet ignore my Ronaldo and Beckham comparison because it doesn't suit your point. There is no real stat or fact or anything that can firmly say that perisic is better than martial so you come up with stuff like goals and assists aren't the only things we rate wingers on, fact is that is the biggest point on which people rate attackers on.

You don't want Sanchez or griezmann ahead of martial or rashford because they run more or track back but because they are better going forward and the Croatian Ashley Young ain't.


34.) 11 Apr 2018 16:01:24
Media spouts nonsense and the page goes into meltdown blaming Jose for this and that. Blah blah noise. Read what ed2 says above. None of which had anything to do with Mourinho. It’s very tiresome reacting from day to day on this stuff.

Jose hates youngsters so much he didn’t go to school and won’t talk to his children until they’re 25.

{Ed001's Note - that's not true Jose loves kids, on toast with a bit of cheese, but he couldn't eat a whole one...}


35.) 11 Apr 2018 16:31:49
Eric, I believe both Salah and De Bruyne left Chelsea for more playing time, in fact for any playing time as he wouldn't pick them.

Are you suggesting that Jose doesn't get to pick the team?

Jose may not have activity tried to sell them, but he didn't give them a chance. So they had to leave to further their careers.

No one is saying Martial, Shaw and Rashford want to leave United because they have it in Manchester, not is anyone saying they are being forced out by Jose. Merely Jose doesn't trust young players, he doesn't progress them as he doesn't create an environment for them to flourish. He would rather sign older players because Jose doesn't think about next season or the future of the club he is working for, he only cares about this season and how many trophies he can win for Jose Mourinho.

That is why he is a short term manager, and unless he wins the title next season he won't be our manager by the start of the 2019/ 20 season.

{Ed002's Note - No it was not really the situation with either player, it was more complex than that.}


36.) 11 Apr 2018 16:38:04
So where have I put down persic is better mate? And I’ll comment on Ronaldo and Beckham if you want. Two completely contrasting styles of players yet again. Only here for a bit of a debate and to give my opinion. No need to call me naive or question whether I’ve watched a game. At the end of the day you have your opinion, and I may not agree with it but it’s not me having a go, because we all have an opinion and no one is right or wrong. Last I’m going to say on the matter.


37.) 11 Apr 2018 16:55:31
And sorry I just seen the question about whether the club should offer him a new deal from Jred.
I’m reaponse mate, if the club feel he can fulfill his potential and he’s willing to work hard to do so then off course like I said earlier. There’s no doubting his potential at all the main reason I’m saying about getting rid of him is the fact that he’s apparently turned this deal down. My point is I don’t think he’d be as missed as people say, but it’s only my opinion.
At the end of the day I’d love him to stay here and become a legend, score 200+ goals. However, at this moment I don’t see that happening. I hope I’m wrong, but if he wants out, let him out. Last I’m saying.


38.) 11 Apr 2018 17:08:25
Didn't mean to cause offense caolan, sorry if i have. But it is annoying when people expect consistency from 22 year old attackers especially given our attacking play.


39.) 11 Apr 2018 17:10:59
When Ronaldo was here it was a differenr situation . We had fergie as our manager, we didn't have to compete with 4 other possible premier league challengers . We had a proper defence had a very good midfield had Tevez and Rooney and vannisteroy so we couldve carried a 21 year old inconsistent Ronaldo and even then he Ronaldo showed more skill then Martial has in his time here.


40.) 11 Apr 2018 17:20:35
No worries CSM. I’m not expecting Ronaldo/ Messi performances but I get frustrated with him because of how much ability he has, and I’m sure there are many who want to see a hell of a lot more from him because we know that potential.


41.) 11 Apr 2018 18:00:32
Singh
After reading all that then you want to sell him?


42.) 11 Apr 2018 18:28:37
Shappy he can only play 11 players at a time. Jose thinks sanchez is better than martial. I agree with him. He also thinks at this time that rashford is a better option than martial. I agree with him. He thinks lukaku is a better option i agree with him.
Its just The managers preference.
Lampard said last night that he never saw the potential in salah nobody at chelsea did and his leaving had nothing to do with jose personally nor did kdb leaving.


43.) 11 Apr 2018 19:03:49
Looks like I’m massively in the minority but if it were a simple case (which it isn’t of course, with £/ age factors) of Martial or Bale, I’d have Bale every time. So he’s much older, past his prime and with a questionable injury history. But he’s still got plenty left in the tank. Martial was a panic buy worth nothing like what was paid and has never been as good as his debut against Liverpool. Next Henry? Give me a break, he’s not on the same planet.


44.) 11 Apr 2018 19:14:35
Again Jred its about if Martial can be happy being part of the squad then he should stay but if he wants more game and if Mourinho isn't going to give him assurance then for his own career he should move elsewhere to get the game time he badly desires.

I would keep him if i was in charge at the club but i am not and i am here debating with you like many others.

You can't keep everyone happy and if Martial really wants to fight for his place and like mentioned in the media the contract is on the table foe him then he should sign it and fight for his player like everyone else.

If i was him personally i would make a move and get the game time i so badly want.

There are so many good clubs around the world he can make a name wirh foe himself.


45.) 11 Apr 2018 21:19:51
Singh
You seem to of given a lot of reasons to get rid of him.


46.) 11 Apr 2018 22:48:26
I don’t really post on here much just like reading everyone’s opinions but this thread is ridiculous.

Also I don’t know if you guys played football or if you did to what standard but if I was either martial or Rashford I’d be looking to the likes of Sanchez and Lukaku etc and saying help me. Looking at these players day in day out should show you what you need to improve yourself.

Martial has bags of potential BUT does he want to fight for his place and prove that he deserves to stay there? Does he try and adapt his game to fit playing right wing? Is he trying to develop himself after training etc or does he go home straight away? We don’t know the answers to these questions so therefore we don’t have that much knowledge on the matter.

I also seem to remember an attacking midfielder that had was better than Wayne Rooney when we signed him, he had bags of potential to. that was ANDERSON. Great potential turned into an average player.

Talent doesn’t automatically mean your going to be a star, you still have to work and dedicate yourself to the game so that you can maximise your potential e.g Ronaldo.

I don’t want him to leave but the club may see him strolling around in training not over bothered, bad attitude etc, not willing to learn blah blah blah. They are in the best possible position to make a decision on getting rid of him.


47.) 11 Apr 2018 23:15:15
Gazza91 top post that.


48.) 12 Apr 2018 08:29:54
Gaza
If that was the case why would they offer him a new contract.


49.) 12 Apr 2018 16:21:11
So if the player wants to leave should we keep him jred?


50.) 12 Apr 2018 18:18:11
Ken
If he wants to leave and won't sign a contract then it would be best to let him go .

But all this we should sell because of x y z are a bit silly imo .
If there were not rumours in the papers very few would want to sell a very talented young player .


51.) 12 Apr 2018 23:09:22
I wanted him to go on loan this season i feared that this would be The situation if he didn't. He actually got more game time than i thought he would be given.
He does have potential and now we are 1 year further down the line and we are none the wiser and he is no closer to fulfilling that potential if he had a hreat season in italy or spain then at least he would be coming back proven and confident and be a more rounded and experienced player. But now starved of meaningful gametime we have forced him into a corner.
But to be fair he hasn't forced himself into the team either.
Hindsight is 20/ 20 vision i suppose.


52.) 13 Apr 2018 10:13:03
He has been offered a 5 year contract which talks you a lot .
40 appearances so far in the EPL only lukaku has scored more
If he had went out on loan would he of gained more than that?
Who would of taking up the slack of him not being here?
How would his situation now of been any different, lukaku Sanchez etc would still be at the club he would still want reasurrences over his playing time .
New contract with a lot of other options as he is a top player, big decision .


 

 

28 Apr 2017 16:28:10
So gutted if the reports are true that fosu mensah has dislocated his shoulder. Was so looking forward to him getting some game time in midfield as I believe an eventual combination of him Herrera and pogba would compliment eachother very well.

The injuries really have taken its toll and it time for the players to stand up and be counted for. Rooney apparently could play in midfield and many will disagree but I think he could have provided a link from midfield to attack that we were missing yesterday. Not the same player but he can still do a job. Big game Sunday let's get the 3 points on the board and put pressure on city and the scousers.

Lots to play for and could end up being a special end if the seasons. Onwards and upwards.

Park3lung

{Ed025's Note - mensah is not the biggest loss though park, better him out than one of the bigger names as im sure we wont see the best of him until next season at the earliest mate..


1.) 29 Apr 2017 14:40:00
We need to remain calm about the youth players. I'm a huge fan of Rashfords potential but he isn't in the top 50 scorers in the 'league' this season and Mensah has done nothing yet to even be discussed as the main defensive midfielder in a team that wants to win the CL. It's almost bordering on hysteria. Both their positions need serious strengthening in the summer.


 

 

 

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15 Jul 2018 17:41:45
So pleased for pogba. Brilliant player and has had a very good tournament. Hope to see him carry on this form this season.

Park3lung

{Ed002's Note - Where?}


1.) 15 Jul 2018 17:55:32
All about desire shown this world cup all the silly excuses he can only a certain position, can't play cm can defend are rubbish .
Defensively been excellent for France .
Doesn't look interested or happy at United certainly when compared to him in the French shirt during this wc.


2.) 15 Jul 2018 17:57:12
That’s the question ed! Hopefully united. But as you have previously said, that may not be an option.


3.) 15 Jul 2018 18:00:08
Oh ed you tease 🤣.

{Ed002's Note - He has been offered around - I keep telling you all that.}


4.) 15 Jul 2018 18:05:30
Hes shown this form at united, whenever we've played well he's been at the heart of it.

Agree with Jred, neither him or jose will be here in a couple of years.


5.) 15 Jul 2018 18:15:37
Pogba lining up next to SMS in midfield, pinging balls to Bale and Perisic on the wings!


6.) 15 Jul 2018 18:40:00
Mumbles, that's a 250 million comment to contemplate.


7.) 15 Jul 2018 18:53:30
That was tongue in cheek mate.


8.) 15 Jul 2018 19:10:37
Comments are free and it won't cost 250 milliion. 😂😂😂.


9.) 15 Jul 2018 21:08:00
Didn’t think Pogba did all that much today tbh, had a decent tournament but still not seen the hype if I’m honest.


10.) 15 Jul 2018 22:03:08
He was fantastic today anf has been all tournament to br fair and i am one of his biggest critics.

He has worked tremendously hard in the tournament and has also helped the team defensively which he didn't do much this season for us.


 

 

11 Jul 2018 20:52:05
Should have played the couple of million extra for perisic. Big, strong quick and direct. Can put a ball in. Been the best player on the pitch.

Park3lung

1.) 11 Jul 2018 21:44:41
I wouldve bought him last year but not now. i'd rather stick with what ans try get a lb in.


2.) 11 Jul 2018 21:46:52
1 game park, 1 good game doesn't make an average player great. If we are going to judge players by 1 game, lukaku needs to be sold and city should get rid of debruyne and that little Argentine that Barcelona pay so much money to he needs to be gotten rid of too.


3.) 11 Jul 2018 21:50:22
Modric ran the show. Croatia were more clever and experienced where we were trying to go forward too quickly. Could have been won in the 1st half. Croatia got away with being more physical.


4.) 11 Jul 2018 22:02:34
Not judging on one game csm. Seen him play for inter this season and he was very good in the first half of the season. I’m a fan of his personally. All about opinions. Never said that a player should be judged on one game. I’m usually careful not to jump on the match of the day fever regarding a player during the World Cup.

Supasub you are spot on about Modric. He was amazing again today. Best midfielder in the world for me. Would still love to sign him even though he is 32.


5.) 11 Jul 2018 22:17:08
What happened in the 2nd half of the season, martial got nos similar to him in less than half the minutes and playing in a tougher league. He is and always will be a average hard working player, not utd quality.


6.) 11 Jul 2018 22:17:54
It might have been a different game if the ref had issued a few yellow cards early in the game when England were on top. Lovren might have had 2. Given that this was the ref who sent Nani off in our match against Real Madrid, it does tend to make one feel he doesn't like English teams. This may seem like sour grapes but I think it makes a real difference when every move is stopped through professional fouls that do not receive an automatic yellow.

That said, in the end we didn't deserve the win. It seemed like we were starting every attack through Pickford. The intention might have been to spread the other team out but the result was that there was no speed in the attack and the defenders had plenty time to get organized. Add to that a performance by Kane that was the antithesis of what you want from your captain.


7.) 11 Jul 2018 22:27:19
i saw him at the san siro in may and he was crap.


8.) 11 Jul 2018 22:29:32
Csm by that logic what happened to martial second half of the season? His numbers were crap so does that make him not good enough for us either? and of course your going to point towards sanchez’s Arrival. But if martial had the mentality to be a top player he would have taken sanchez’s arrival as a challenge and would have worked his arse off to get his spot back. To say perisic is an average player is pure snobbery. The guy is playing in a World Cup final so he must have some talent. Not saying we should sign him now as we are well stocked in the left wing position with Sanchez now here. But I would have been happy to see us pay what was needed for perisic at the beginning of last season.


9.) 12 Jul 2018 02:30:31
Park he is playing world cup final means his team has been great, it doesn't mean he turns into a great player. Lovren and rebic also play in the same team are they now also world-class since they are playing in a team that has made it to a world cup final.


10.) 12 Jul 2018 10:31:44
Its a team game. Maybe you should give credit to Modric and the rest of the team as to why they are in the final.


11.) 12 Jul 2018 11:02:58
Of course it’s a team game Singh. As I’ve said above Modric is the best midfielder in the world. I don’t see why it’s hard for people to give credit to perisic. He changed the game for Croatia and was the attacking outlet for them yesterday. All that was good can through him. But because his name is not Gareth bale he is average and not good enough. I seem to remember CSM calling him the Croatian Ashley young when we were linked with him previously. Football snobbery tbh.


12.) 12 Jul 2018 12:16:28
It's not snobbery park, just look at most of his crosses and Young's, they both rarely get to the player they are supposed to. Both are capable of odd good games but reliable and consistent are words neither can ever be associated with and neither will ever be considered anything other than average players.


 

 

07 Jul 2018 17:19:36
Absolutely buzzing england are in the semis. Wasn’t born for Italia 90 so have never seen england go beyond the semis. Today felt like a friendly and I’ve never been so chilled for an england game. Southgate and the boys should be so proud. They have united the country and restored some pride back in the English National team. In years to come I will look back at the summer of 2018 with great fondness.

Park3lung

1.) 07 Jul 2018 17:55:41
Italia 90 was my first memory of football. I was 7. This is so special.


2.) 07 Jul 2018 22:45:00
I was 9. I was almost in tears. After all the false dawns, useless coaches, over hyped egotistical players picked on reputation, this teams restored hope.


3.) 08 Jul 2018 02:46:12
I was 3 🙄 Just remember England being bi-annually pathetic since Euro 96 - hopefully this is the start of restoring some pride.


4.) 08 Jul 2018 10:40:48
I was 14. Italia was the best world cup in my lifetime along with 1982.
Russia is the best since then imo in general although the goals scored aren't as memorable as those older world cups. Maybe to do with less risk being taken over the years.


 

 

07 Jul 2018 11:33:56
Just my view on whether we should or should not sign Ronaldo. When the news first broke about Juve’s interest I fully believed we would go in and finally bring him back. I was very excited at the prospect of seeing him back in a united shirt. But now that I’ve had a few days to digest the information and think about whether or how it could work, I’m quite happy we haven’t gone in for him.

It’s very much a head v heart debate for me. My heart romanticises it and tells me that he will come back and win us league, which he may well do so because he’s a goal machine. But my head tells me that he would potentially disrupt the likes of Lukaku and that we would have to set up a certain way to accomadate and get the best out of him.

Jonny8 makes a great point down below that he would be a Keane like figure in the dressing room. His sheer will to win and his unbelievably high standards are something we do greatly lack on our dressing room. He always leads by example and he would inspire and push the youngsters to new heights. When I think about this I feel for 88m we must go in for him.

At the end of the day, if we were truly interested in him I think he would not think twice about rejoining us. However, there are far more pressing areas to fix (rw, lb) and so in some ways I’m quite pleased that we haven’t gone and spent a large amount of our budget on a player we perhaps do not necessarily need. If we do not end up signing a rw or lb and do not get Ronaldo either then I would be pretty disappointed. But I do feel that ship has sailed as fans such as myself should move on and wish him well.

Park3lung

1.) 07 Jul 2018 11:56:03
Top post Park.


2.) 07 Jul 2018 15:41:56
Thanks Park.

The real question here is whether the players we have could actually be good enough if the realized their potential.
I think that’s a yes.
And then it is whether Ronaldo would be enough to straighten them out.

It could easily be money better spend if Shaw gets his act together and Pogba does then signing Sandro and Milinkovic-Savic.

Not saying that’s the case, just a point to consider.

And signing Ronaldo will boost our revenue stream mir then signing Sandro and Milinkovic-Savic.
That’s a big plus in Ed’s book and should be in ours as well if the result on the pitch is the same.


3.) 07 Jul 2018 15:58:14
Ronaldo isn't daft won't come back to the EPL Italy and juve are a far better fit.


 

 

06 Jul 2018 21:25:26
Lukaku has been simply outstanding this tournament. He looks much leaner and explosive than he did during the season. That run for de bruyne’s goal was world class. We need to build the team around him and play to his strengths. He can be the best striker in the world. I am so happy we got him. I wouldn’t even swap him for Ronaldo because his potential is huge.

Absolutely chuffed for Belgium. Wanted them to win because I cannot stand Neymar and his antics. He is an Instagram footballer who falls to the ground. He has so much talent yet his antics ruin it for me. Hazard was phenomenal tonight. What I would do to have him at united. When on song he is up there on the group below Ronaldo and Messi.

Finally, our marmite player fellaini. I will admit I was furious when he signed and to an extent I still stick to my view he is not what we need if we are to get back to the top. But tonight he had a great game snuffing out the Brazilian attack. He has the heart of a lion and I can see why managers love him. His attitude is exemplary and he always gives his all. I stick by not wanting him to sign a new deal. But if he is used in certain circumstances and not a starter, then I am happy to see him in the squad.

This World Cup has been crazy and I’ve loved every second of it. It has been a great advert for football and russia have been great hosts. It is refreshing to see unfancied teams with the potential to make the semis. I am firmly in the camp that believes england can bring it home. And if they don’t, well Gareth and the boys and restored the pride of the country and instilled a sense of togetherness and hope for the future. He is building something potentially great and it has been great to see.

Park3lung

1.) 06 Jul 2018 22:50:08
Park, i have always loved how lukaku has played for us this season. I don't understand the stick he gets. You supply him, he scores. Simple as that.
Fellaini did ok without being outstanding. He gave the ball lot and his control in tight situations is poor. But he plays to his maximum and we can't ask for more.
I thought Belgium were outstanding.


2.) 06 Jul 2018 23:26:33
Agree mate imagine if we were able to provide him the service he gets playing for Belgium. The guy would be unstoppable. He is so dangerous when he is running behind or coming off the right and playing players through. His distribution is so underrated. I worry we won’t be able to keep him and that his head may be turned by the likes of Real. I would love him to be our no 9 for years to come.

Agreed fellaini’s close control isn’t the best. But when asked to fulfil a disciplined role like tonight he did a very good job. Belgium are a great team to watch and I expect them to turn France over.


3.) 06 Jul 2018 23:46:12
I've enjoyed the world cup and always felt Brazil would be the team England found just to difficult, lukaku was fantastic against them as were others but it's the utd page
On a side note maybe it's just me but if Sweden were to score against England I'd fancy it was from a long throw, a corner or a free kick so would anyone apply the horses for courses theory and play Cahill or Jones as a cb and move walker to wingback for just this game to counter this . I think trippier has done fine but walker always gets a game for me.


4.) 07 Jul 2018 01:37:55
Pogba has been excellent this world and so has lindelof and jesse. Almost as if we have a really good team with great players in it.


5.) 07 Jul 2018 08:43:49
Agreed on lukaku Park. Problwm is we do not posses proper wingers. Mata Rashford and Martial are not wingers, I've been saying this for three years. We need to buy or promote wingers. We have a couple in our youth and maybe give them a chance. In addition, our fullbacks offer nothing coming forward. Sorry, i don't want to start the Mourinho debate, not for another couple of months anyway, but the system he deploys at United does not allow our fullbacks the freedom to go forward.


6.) 07 Jul 2018 09:06:18
I think the problem is how the team is set. Does Belgium play with proper wingers, I think not, they are playing with wing backs, and haven't seen any of them even providing great crosses.

Lukaku has pace, makes runs behind the defenders, players behind him needs to see his runs and release the ball quickly, Utd game play lacks that. Even if we buy wingers without changing our game play nothing will change.

All in all Lukaku had great season, and by performing well in the WC brings him with good reputation which is better for Utd and himself.


7.) 07 Jul 2018 11:23:27
You are right about our lack of out and out wingers AAA. I have grown up with United always playing with width and quality wingers. There does seem to be a lack of proper wingers these days. The only ones that spring to my mind are sane, Willian and Pulisic. We need to stretch teams by having our wingers stay wide so that the likes of pogba can pick up those pockets of spaces in front of the defence. This will also create so much more space for Lukaku. If we do not have proper wingers, then or full backs need to have the quality and the freedom to bomb forward and create the width. At the moment they have neither. Hopefully we can improve the personnel, especially at lb. hopefully with that, we shall see a more expansive style of play. But agreed we do not set up correctly to get the most out of our most important players (pogba, Lukaku) .


8.) 07 Jul 2018 15:53:08
What we we need is a midfielder like Belgium, someone who can break up play, elbow people in the head and release the ball forward for our front line to attack with pace. 🤔.


9.) 07 Jul 2018 16:00:20
Lukaku has looked exactly what he looked like he was going to become at Everton.
Pogba playing well and playing in the middle .
Hope it finishes all the will excuses he needs this and that can only play x y z position.


10.) 07 Jul 2018 17:49:22
There lots of wingers out there. Perisic, Douglas Costa in addition to the two you mentioned. But it is our fullbacks that should be taking a share of the attacking roles, but i don't think they're encouraged to do so.


 

 

 

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14 Jul 2018 16:33:47
Maguire has been great this World Cup but he is still defensively suspect. He looks much better in a 3 as he is afforded more protection when he goes off venturing upfield. But in a two he is such a liability. I would be happy to sign him if we are to move to a 3 at the back. But we should be going all out for Alderweireld who is the best cb in the league.

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05 Jul 2018 14:38:49
I agree ed would be a good move for all parties. Think he can be a top top player. Cheers ed.

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05 Jul 2018 13:45:00
Thanks for confirming that Ed001. Do you seen Dybala going there?

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05 Jul 2018 13:17:12
I hope so. It seems with Juve in for Ronaldo they will need to offload some players. Perhaps Sandro and Higuain? Rumours that Dybala does not get on with allegri. Would love to sign him. But this is all paper talk and until Ed002 confirms this then I won’t beliieve it.

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02 Jul 2018 09:55:29
Mpez his commentary for that Manolas goal was poetry. He has such a way with words. The best out there.

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15 Jul 2018 23:39:43
Thank you very much for sharing this information with us ed. It is greatly appreciated.

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15 Jul 2018 17:57:12
That’s the question ed! Hopefully united. But as you have previously said, that may not be an option.

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15 Jul 2018 17:40:02
Agree mort. Very good player and would have been a useful addition. Don’t need him now though and need to focus on rw.

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14 Jul 2018 23:14:22
Fantastic news. Hope he makes a full recovery.

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14 Jul 2018 21:10:50
Welcome back mate.

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