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09 Jun 2019 21:34:28
That Dias looks a very composed and tidy player. Hope our interest is serious because in today’s day and age, £50m could be a shrewd signing.

Park3lung

1.) 09 Jun 2019 21:57:20
He looks a player, although I think he might take a year to settle a bit like Lindelof. He doesn't look the strongest and will need to be stronger in the EPL. But he has great technique, wonderful reading of the game and a bit of bite in him.


2.) 09 Jun 2019 22:43:43
He looks made for the Premier League to me fella’s, would me more than happy if we could bring him in, Bruno Fernandez was also impressive tonight. Could do a lot worse than aiming to sign both up.


3.) 09 Jun 2019 23:15:41
Spot on lads. I have been a bit concerned about de ligt when he is against pace which is why I’ve not been fully sold on the idea of joining. I know there is no chance, but I do think defensively he’s not the best. Great on the ball and he has the potential to be a great player. But first and foremost I want my cbs to be able to defence.

Dias looks like a good defender and keeps things simple. If there is a chance to sign him I’d be all over it. Alderweireld is another, koulibaly is too expensive and perhaps Milenkovic. Never been the biggest Maguire fan but he is an improvement.

Impressed with Bruno tonight, hope we sign him. The Portuguese team had really quality on the ball, something the Dutch perhaps lacked. Bernardo, Ronaldo and Bruno are all players with equisite technique. That was the difference for me. Bernardo is an absolute gem of a player. Combines talent with sheer work rate and industry. City have a great player on their hands. Thoroughly jealous.


4.) 10 Jun 2019 12:26:58
Bernardo Silva is absolutely class, I'm surprised how strong he is for such a small player.

Hopefully CR7 has put in a good word about us to Bruno and Dias, both look very good.

In terms of CBs, Toby would be my first choice. I know he's a short-term fix, but we need an instant fix to our defence, we can't wait 2-3 years for a new full back and centre back to develop.


 

 

22 Mar 2019 00:02:14
Hope these rumours of Herrera to PSG are media rubbish. Would be gutted to see him go. Any truth in it Eds?

Park3lung

{Ed002's Note - They have spoken with him they say.}


1.) 22 Mar 2019 08:09:26
Are any clubs looking at .....

{Ed002's Note - This is the MANCHESTER UNITED page.}


2.) 22 Mar 2019 09:42:33
Thanks for the swift response ed.


 

 

06 Mar 2019 13:11:26
Hi Ed002 any truth in the rumours united are interested in Bruno fernandes? Seems he plays attacking mid and may well be a replacement for pogba if he goes. Thanks.

Park3lung

{Ed002's Note - Bruno Fernandes (AM) is of interest to Everton and Liverpool have certainly looked at him on two or more occasions. Spurs maintain an interest but only if Christian Eriksen leaves. Asking price has more than doubled from what was already a high price in recent months and that has pushed aside interest from Juventus who don't see the value, Valencia and CSKA. Whilst Manchester United, Bayern Munich and another EPL side, none have a declared interest that I know of and all have other AM targets.}


1.) 07 Mar 2019 00:37:30
Thanks very much ed.


 

 

07 Jan 2019 12:20:18
Hi Ed apologies if this has already been covered but is there any truth in united bidding for Barella? I understand Chelsea are looking at him to replace fabregas. From what I’ve seen of Barella he looks a talented player. Be interested to hear your thoughts on him. Thanks.

Park3lung

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any MU bid.}


1.) 07 Jan 2019 13:44:17
thanks for the quick reply ed. hope all is well.

{Ed002's Note - No problem.}


 

 

15 May 2018 10:20:26
Hi Ed002 is you are around hope you are well mate. I know you said we had interest in alex Sandro but is he now our first choice target for left back? Thanks.

Park3lung

{Ed002's Note - I can't help with transfers any longer, sorry.}


1.) 15 May 2018 10:41:41
No problem thanks ed.


2.) 15 May 2018 12:32:14
If there is any truth in Sandro at 50 mill and the lad from Napoli as right back who seems highly rated at 44 mill -I don't pretend to know much about him -then Shaw and Darmian out as directly replaced for a net spend of 60 mill for a key part of defence with added attacking flair seems a good deal.


3.) 15 May 2018 12:52:37
would be a great pair of signings if true burrenway. I like Hysaj he looks a very good player. Only time will tell!


4.) 15 May 2018 12:25:31
Ed002 - is there any light at the end of the tunnel? When will you be back?

{Ed002's Note - Right now there is no plan to do anything involving transfers any longer.}


5.) 15 May 2018 14:46:53
Yes Park3lung, a bit of pace and flair going forward. I would then hope TFM comes into the first team squad as a back up rb to get him some real experience.


6.) 15 May 2018 17:41:54
Ed002 i am very sorry to hear that. I hope that there comes a time when this is all resolved and we have the pleasure of your wise words once more.

{Ed002's Note - Thanks, we'll see.}


7.) 15 May 2018 21:13:54
Most of us echo those thoughts Pogthedog, this site is a better place with Ed002 on board.


8.) 15 May 2018 22:41:22
Ultimately United will but whoever they buy.

{Ed033's Note - Sounds painful and unnecessary :)


 

 

 

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19 Jan 2020 19:56:58
One player stood up today and looked the best player on the park. And that was Fred. He was outstanding again, like he has been nearly all season. If we had 11 Freds we wouldn’t be where we are. He works so hard and doesn’t hide. So happy to see him prove his doubters wrong.

Park3lung

1.) 19 Jan 2020 20:14:13
Williams?


2.) 19 Jan 2020 20:45:17
Now park i get the sentiments but i think 3 4 or 5 Fred's would be enough for anyone😂😂
But you got to say In terms of energy and effort he would but the Duracell bunny to shame.
Lots to like about fred.


3.) 19 Jan 2020 21:04:15
Haha yeh fair point ken 😂. I just love his commitment to the cause. Something we’ve lacked for years. Unfortunately we are severely lacking in quality both in terms of coaching staff and players. Hence why we are seeing what we are seeing.


4.) 19 Jan 2020 21:18:24
Best utd player definitely still wouldn't make the liverpool match day squad me thinks.


5.) 19 Jan 2020 21:30:16
Some people in particular didn't see a footballer in him at all ken if you recall.


6.) 19 Jan 2020 22:21:43
Angel in fairness he was tripe for a while😂😂 opinions change with form.
With rash out now we are really light up front on numbers. Pogba should be fit in a month or so
Its going to be an interesting last week of the window. Top 4 somehow is still achievable. I just don't think ole can lead us there unless he pullss a few rabbits out of the hat before the end of the month.


7.) 19 Jan 2020 23:11:24
Fred was quite poor, he made some good tackles and interceptions and worked hard, but he lost possessions all too easy and was unable to feed any quality balls to the forwards. Better of the three midfielders though, but I don't think I've seen a worse midfield for United, I'm not sure Perreira is even Middlesbrough level.


8.) 20 Jan 2020 01:40:59
Fred was poor? I must have watched a different game.


9.) 20 Jan 2020 11:21:10
What did Fred do? He and Matic were totally overrun in the midfield until late in the second half after Liverpool made their changes. He made a few interceptions and a couple of tackles, but failed to create anything. He made a couple of runs with the ball that led to a shot that lacked both precision and power. The commentators were constantly bemoaning the lack of any pass towards the front three who were creating space and making runs, and Fred and Matic were the culprits there. Fred works hard, but lacks in technical ability, he's very easily dispossessed and misplaces far too many passes. If I'd have to rank Fred in comparison to other United midfielders of recent years, he'd be somewhere in the Fellaini/ Anderson level, although Fellaini could score and assist as well as intercept and tackle, so that comparison maybe isn't fair.

It was dire yesterday, the forwards were starved of service. The tactics of stretching their defence to create space in the middle worked, but Perreira was unable to do anything with the ball. The central defence was shocking, the amount of times Shaw was having to cover for Lindelof and Maguire who were out of caught position just isn't right. Until the midfield is sorted and a strong centre back provided, nothing will really improve.


 

 

12 Jan 2020 14:45:42
On a more positive note away from Ole in/ out. I’ve been so impressed with Brandon Williams. He’s taken to the first team like a duck to water. Never easy to come in when the team is Struggling. The biggest thing that has stood out to me is his willingness to get forward. The penalty was all down to his sheer determination and desire to get on the end of it. Something that wouldn’t have happened is Shaw was playing. Full backs are so important in the modern game and we’ve lacked that so much in recent times. I love that Williams has a bit of bite and a nasty streak about him. Something we have also lacked recently. Fast becoming one of my favourite players.

Park3lung

1.) 12 Jan 2020 15:51:58
One thing that can't be taken away from this season is how well our academy has done this season. McTominay, Rashford, Greenwood and Williams have all done very well. I also hold out hope of Tuanzebe grabbing a place in the side by the end of the season too.

Really if your looking at non academy players that have done well this season you could only really say AWB, James and Martial have done well, but none have over achieved like the academy lads.


2.) 12 Jan 2020 16:37:57
Too right shappy. They’ve played without fear which has been amazing.


 

 

08 Jan 2020 09:49:05
The worst thing about yesterday was that I was relieved and in some ways pleased we didn’t get smashed more than 3-1. That’s how far we’ve fallen. We’ve become a laughing stock on the world stage.

From top to bottom we are inept. Amateur board, scattergun transfer policy, disinterested owners, egomaniac CEO, a manager who is devoid of any tactical nous or ability, a supposed ‘star’ player who publicly undermines a club, a graveyard for talented players.

What has happened to this great club? It’s been destroyed in a matter of 6.5 years. We really are at an important cross road for our future. Keep someone who is so out of his depth as manager is potentially catastrophic for our future.

Already we are an unattractive proposition, but who wants to play for a manager and team that serves up that dross last night? Can’t deny I’ve never been this worried in my lifetime as a United fan.

The only positive last night was Brandon Williams for me. That kid has the heart of a lion. He never gave up, never let his head drop and was a match for Bernardo. He made some brilliant driving runs and showed real quality at times.

I’m not sure how long we can go on like this, but I hope our board can make a decision and fast. The past suggests they can’t even do that.

Park3lung

1.) 08 Jan 2020 10:13:42
Top post.


2.) 08 Jan 2020 11:13:59
The rot set in the day the Glazers bought the club saddling us with enormous debt and high interest payments making the timely replacement of like with like as players aged a thing of the past.

Only the will power, nous, and ability of Sir Alex, coupled with the marketing power of the EPL and the CEO's ability to capitalize on a United brand that someone else created for him, held it together for so long. The last six and half years are the fruit of the first 10 under the Glazers. Yes, they have spent money - lots of it since - but they have spent it unwisely because they haven't a clue what they're doing as far as football itself is concerned. Not a clue.

Ed 002 has blamed the toxic fans in the past, but nowadays he regularly talks about the incompetence of the club's management. In truth it has always been a failure of management that's at the root of the problems. (This is not the fault of the Board except insofar as they retain the services of a CEO and team who don't know how to inspire a football club)

I sometimes wonder, when the Glazers took over and our debt was £600m+ and revenues were £230m, what would have happened if all of a sudden the club started sputtering on the field as it's doing now. Would we have survived? Would we have gone the way of Leeds United? The Glazers have been very lucky. They leveraged the club and made a lot of money. But it could have been otherwise. It may yet be.

As far as Ole is concerned he is obviously out of his depth. I have not been a great fan of Pocchetino for the role, that is assuming he's even interested in the position, but I will give him this. He did a very good job working with a young Tottenham team, giving them an identity and style. He may not have won anything, but at this point in time winning things should not be the top priority.

We need to get back to basics. What we have are a number of very promising young players and not much else. Let him get rid of the dead wood, give him the budget he never had at Spurs, and perhaps, in 2-3 years, we will have a decent football team again. despite the incompetence of Woodward and his team.


3.) 08 Jan 2020 11:19:13
Cheers Singh. And really good post Shaw. I agree with all of that. Although I do think Poch would do well here.


4.) 08 Jan 2020 11:25:35
If we are to navigate ourselves out of this current malaise Man Utd must start acting like a big Club. Despite our recent appalling performances against Arsenal, Wolves and Man City a top 4 finish is still within reach but only if the Club acts decisively and invests in the squad this January.

Nobody was too disheartened when the likes of Lukaku, Sanchez, Fellaini and Herrera were allowed to leave the Club. Most were deemed not good enough to wear the shirt of our great Club and had become synonymous with the abject and mediocre performances we'd come to expect. Sanchez, Fellaini and even Lukaku had all become scapegoats for a Club basking in mediocrity yet paying a kings ransom for the privilege. The expectation was these overpaid charlatans would be replaced and upgraded by better models more deserving of the shirt; yet amidst the exodus came no fresh blood. No upgrades, no additional quality, nothing.

Instead the Club would choose to promote from within; ignoring the inconvenient truth that the charlatans were perhaps still better than what remained. Players like Lingard, Pereria, Fred, Mctominay, Rashford and Martial led by the enigmatic Paul Pogba would herald a new dawn, or so we were told. The fact that most of theses players had already been at the Club for a number of years and failed to deliver on any kind of consistent basis was seemingly dismissed and ignored.

OGS is now paying the price for a naive and complacent summer window. Lukaku and Herrera simply had to be replaced; not just replaced but upgraded and this was in addition to the business we'd already done.

If this season has taught us anything it's we don't have a recognised No10. Lingard, Pereria and Mata simply aren't good enough. We still don't have a RW and our midfield is none existent. Matic and Pogba will move on in the summer. Both will need replacing. Realistically we'll need at least three CM's, a No10, a RW and possibly a CF.

Bruno Fernandes is still available and would be a good place to start. Waiting for the inevitable is simply repeating the mistakes of the past.


5.) 08 Jan 2020 12:06:47
Good post dlib, sorry to nitpick, but weren't you and shappy championing the club's vision and yourself dismissing and ignoring that what we had wasn't good enough? I remember, me and a lot of other posters complaining about the lack of depth and you both replying with essays about how pigs might fly.


6.) 08 Jan 2020 12:59:09
CSM - ha ha ha ha, your right mate and I do love a good essay.

I thought the players we signed during the summer were promising however there was no doubt in my mind more investment was needed especially considering the players that had been allowed to leave.

I was livid when Lukaku was sold and not replaced. It was obvious there was a lack of goals in the squad and I was unhappy that we didn't get a RW or a replacement for Herrera.

I'm not a fan of 4-2-3-1 but to play this system effectively we needed a No10 and RW.

I believed in the likes of Rashford, Martial and Mctominay to step up but I wrongly calculated that Pogba would give us a decent farewell season with the Euro's in the summer to keep him honest.

Injuries have bitten hard and left the squad exposed and I must admit I've been very disappointed with the form of De Gea, Lindelof, Shaw, Lingard and of course Pogba who has been injured. I feel that these players in particular have let the manager down after he placed so much faith in them.

Had they performed to expectations I think Ole was entitled to think this team was capable of achieving a top 4 finish but it was also naive not to expect some injuries and loss of form and the depth of the squad was just not good enough.

Ole's great gamble will probably backfire but he didn't get the backing he needed. Another two key signings in the summer could have made all the difference.

Sadly it's looks like the Club are paralysed by indecision once again. They will probably not invest this January and leave Ole a dead man walking. A new manager beckons in the summer when Ole doesn't deliver Champions League football and the whole sorry circus will start again.

{Ed047's Note - you sure do! 😉


7.) 08 Jan 2020 14:12:13
the problem as regards lack of goals in our team is not our forwards Rashford, Martial and Greenwood have scored a fair few between them .

The problem is the complete lack of goals and creativity from midfield and also from the full back areas .


 

 

28 Dec 2019 23:47:07
That’s a massive win. I really enjoyed it because we haven’t kept a clean sheet in a while and we beat a team that is notoriously physical and difficult to beat. You have to have a strong appetite and work rate to beat a team like Burnley. We had that in abundance.

Martial was brilliant and has been for the past few weeks. You can see he is playing with the bit between his teeth - making runs and stretching the defence. He clearly has a lot of talent. But his attitude has always been in question. If he can play with consistency then he will fulfil his huge talent. Something I have noticed is how genuinely happy Rashford and Martial are for each other when each other scores. That is very rare nowadays, so it’s great to see.

Fred was very good again today. He really has stepped up and I love his energy and tenacity, something we have lacked for years, and something we lost when Herrera left. I’m so pleased for him.

Dan james took a battering today yet still got an assist. That’s 6 now in the league - only Trent, de Bruyne and son have more. Phenomenal for someone who has just come up from the championship. He’s still raw and should be rotated with greenwood. But there’s a player there. And at £15m, that’s a steal.

There is some exciting talent in this side. Some obvious gaps we need to fill with quality signings, but nonetheless there is reason to be optimistic. It all depends on whether we can put a run together and really push hard for top 4. Without sounding negative, I’m still not 100% sold. We have shown we are a side capable of beating the top sides (city and spurs), and then the following week we lose to the bottom side (Watford) . Until I see evidence Ole has figured out how to beat the smaller teams on a regular basis, I can’t fully relax and have 100% faith that we will be back where we need to be. I hope I’m proven wrong and I want Ole to smash it. I’m just trying to enjoy each week as it comes and hoping we can do it.

Have a great New Year everyone and here’s to 2020 being a year to remember for United. Thanks to all the Eds you have been great, especially Ed047 whose input has been stellar.

Park3lung

1.) 29 Dec 2019 00:39:18
Park
It's easy to see something after it happens .


2.) 29 Dec 2019 05:27:47
This is the Martial we want to see.
Many have rightly had a go at him because of his don't care attitude.

But the last 2 games from him have been brilliant. He showed work ethic, aggression and closed down the goal keeper regularly.
This is what everyone wants to see from him every week.

Great effort from the whole team considering we had just 48 hours time for recovery.

Our forwards still need to get those tap ins, those nasty goals.
Brandon Williams produced 3 top class crosses which should have been put in the back of the net.

Encouraging signs. Let's hope we improve our consistency in 2020 :)


3.) 29 Dec 2019 10:06:10
What does that even mean jred? Digs again? It’s what you do.

{Ed047's Note - morning Park, thanks for the mention and have a great 2020 yourself mate!


4.) 29 Dec 2019 10:37:13
Park
A week ago ole had to be sacked and half the team sold. Have things really changed so much in a week.


5.) 29 Dec 2019 11:42:32
Jred

We beat two fellow mid table teams, Newcastle and Burnley and now everything is fine, have things really changed so much in a week? works both ways. I am always pleased to win and winning yesterday is very welcome. I think we have Ole until Spring and they will see where we finish in the table.


6.) 29 Dec 2019 11:05:01
You too ed!

Jred - at least I come here and give my opinion when we win or lose. You hide when we lose then when we win you go after posters for what they’ve said the previous week. I stand by my view of Ole. I don’t think he’s good enough and I would rather a better manager. If you read my post, I say that I’m not fully sold. But I can appreciate and credit a good performance. So how about you give your opinion instead of jumping and sniping at others? Just a thought mate. Anyway hope you had a great Xmas and happy new year.


7.) 29 Dec 2019 12:41:55
Park an excellent post and very balanced and positive as the performance deserved praise. So not sure why some people have got their knickers in a twist about it. We performed extremely well and got 3 very important points. I enjoyed the match and our attitude.
We cannot be more complimentary about it, hope the consistency will follow and we carry this form into the second half of the season. There's nothing stopping us from doing so.


8.) 29 Dec 2019 13:21:12
People were talking about relegation a few weeks ago, Knees were jerking all over the place. Depending on whether we can get consistent I see us between 3rd and 8th.


9.) 29 Dec 2019 14:09:34
I'm with AJ. It's one extreme to the other. Talk of relegation battles was ridiculous.

Its obvious we have an imbalanced squad and the buying team didn't do enough in the summer. There have been some awful performances and results and we should be 10 points better off. But waving a magic wand doesn't solve everything.


10.) 29 Dec 2019 14:51:07
Park I don't hide I just don't reply to the frankly ridiculous post.
People shouting for the manager to be sacked each time we lose a game? That Watford game is our only lose in the last 13 games .
Or going on about us getting relegated, martial never a striker etc .
My opinion hasn't changed I like the direction the club has taken, I think ole has been a breath of fresh air and I'm pleased the way things are going . And martial is a striker. It takes time.
Redman spurs and city aren't midtable teams and I honestly don't think we will be relegated this season.


11.) 29 Dec 2019 15:07:37
Yes because people that want Ole out only react on a one game basis. Pretty insulting to many long standing fans like red man/ AAA who have supported the club for a long time. It’s ridiculous that if you have any opinion that suggests Ole is not good enough, you are jumped on an attacked. Nobody jumps on your opinion that you like Ole and support him. I can enjoy games and give a complimentary post, as well as believe we would be better under a better manager. They are not mutually exclusive. I didn’t realise you were the one that got to judge how people support the team. And you do like to have digs at people.


12.) 29 Dec 2019 15:30:38
Park, just like anyone like myself, who thinks Ole should be given a bit of a chance, are accused of being over-emotional, sentimental fools who herald bright, new dawns everytime we win a game? As a long-standing supporter, I find that quite insulting to be fair 😉.


13.) 29 Dec 2019 15:47:54
Park
Redman has made his mind up on ole, he will openly tell you he wanted ole sacked before a ball had been kicked .
But that's his opinion and he will stick to it and won't be happy until he is sacked .
I don't get people who shout for a manager to be sacked on the back of a bad result but each to there own.
One day ole will get sacked, imo before a ball has been kicked is a bit early so is after 12 month, especially under the circumstances.
But again each to there own.


14.) 29 Dec 2019 16:07:23
And you are entitled to that opinion Stevie! I just don’t appreciate someone sniping at me or others when they decide to compliment the team, even though they don’t think Ole is the right man. Like I said, you can enjoy a win and also still have that view.


15.) 29 Dec 2019 16:35:16
Jred

I said and still feel the OGS is not qualified to be the manager, esteemed Ed02 said the same. I would be happy, because I support the club, if Ole demonstrated he had got the skills by doing something appropriate but I don’t think he will. I sense we will waste this season and possibly next, waiting for him to do it and then when it doesn’t work, have to start again. The club comes first so if it did work I would be happy.

I am not shouting, as you put it, for Ole to be sacked after one game, being Watford or anyone else, it is on the basis of his record here and at Cardiff and his chronic lack of experience.


16.) 29 Dec 2019 16:41:43
Redman
To be fair to you you wanted him sacked before a ball had been kicked you have stood by that opinion.


17.) 29 Dec 2019 21:29:01
Redman, I have a feeling you will be vindicated at some point.

But we support them matter what. It was nice to see us beating Burnley and Newcastle the last 2 games and hopefully the consistency continues because the way other teams around us are imploding, top 4 should be a realistic goal.


 

 

23 Dec 2019 10:21:52
Serious question - if Ole had not done what he did in 99, would he still have this much support or patience from some fans? I seem to remember Jose and LVG losing support far earlier and quicker despite being far better managers with glittering CVs. To put it simply, The nostalgic rose tinted glasses some fans have towards Ole is masked by what he did as a player. I love him for what he has done as a player, he’s a legend. But he’s a manager now.

And so he should be judged by the same stick as those before him. The general consensus does seem to be that he is not the right man, but I just don’t understand how some are clinging onto the idea we are ‘progressing’. We are meandering towards mediocrity and if we are not careful the damage will be so deep it will take years to recover. I must admit I’ve never ever been so worried about our future as I am today. The worst thing is that Ole seems to have full support from the powers above. You have two top managers in Allegri and Poch out of a job and we are sitting with our fingers up our arses hoping it will all magically fix itself. Time to wake up and smell the coffee.

Park3lung

1.) 23 Dec 2019 10:46:47
Ole is not a single issue.

- Squad has been mismanaged and left to age and stagnate.
- Poor signings have come and gone leaving a weakened team.
- No clear football strategy and amateurs running the club.

Until the above is sorted EVERY manager will fail.


2.) 23 Dec 2019 11:12:57
He possibly wouldn't Park. Ultimately Ole has a huge amount of good will among the fans (quite rightly) for what he did on the pitch but we're not in a good state.

The club is in a difficult situation, if we sack Solskjaer, it's back to square one. However, if we don't, I think it's clear that we have a manager who isn't cut out for the job. At the moment I think the plan is to get through the next year or two with Solskjaer in charge. Possibly with reduced expectations as we are letting the younger players in the side develop at a more comfortable pace. Then in a year or two we have a more competitive team, which either thrive with Solskjaer or he is moved on and another manager comes in?

Alternative is Solskjaer goes soon and we appoint someone like Poch, Allegri etc who may get more out of the team right away but also might not? Will they want some of the players we have, will we need to switch transfer targets again? Will we actually change the structure of the club to suit a new manager as we have failed to do so with the last 4.

At this moment, I'd give Solskjaer to the end of the season. Do I think he is out of his depth, yes, is he the manager to take us forward to becoming competitive again, no, but the club has mismanaged its way into this situation and I don't think sacking him will help that despite his shortcomings.

League positions and cup runs are one thing, however, my biggest concern with the team at the moment is that we have a former CF as a head coach and none of our forwards can make a half decent run except Greenwood. We also have one of the best CM's of the PL era in our coaching squad and we haven't a clue how to play an effective pass.

The above is basically a long way of saying, the whole club is in a mess and changing manager, players, coaches might help but the main change that needs to happen is in the structure of the club to try to avoid such mismanagement for another 5-10 years.


3.) 23 Dec 2019 12:17:11
Utd Road

He is definitely not the single issue and that is very well documented and understood by all in the fanbase. But what we see on the the pitch in terms of team selection, tactics and performance/ results is solely on Ole. We just lost to the bottom side in the league. That has nothing to do with the owners/ powers above. That is on Ole who spends the week coaching, training and supposedly meant to be improving the players so that they go out on the weekend and put in a performance to beat whoever we play.

RJ

That's a good post mate. Well balanced and thought out and I do agree in parts with you. But I cannot stand the narrative that nobody else would do better than how Ole currently is. We are so so poor and there are many managers who would get more out of this squad on a consistent basis. Yes there are problems at the top and that does need sorting, but the impact of a top manager at a club the size of United should not be underestimated. Liverpool were not exactly thriving before Klopp and look where they are now. Yes there structure has massively helped, but a manager with proven quality and ability has got them to where we all want to bed. But simply put, none of the coaching staff should be here. How a club as big as United has ended up with Ole as manager is beggars belief.


4.) 23 Dec 2019 16:27:12
Park, I agree with your sentiments. Solskjaer is being given time due to his history with the club. I would love him to be a success, but he's shown no signs of improving the team. And more so, as I've been saying for some time, Carrick and Phelan are not up to the job either. The whole coaching staff are not of the required standard.
United Road, I take your points, however, we are on the same points total as Newcastle, are we seriously suggesting joelinton, Cameron and Carroll are the same level as Martial, rashford Greenwood and James, or the Newcastle midfield and defence st the same level as United's? I think our team has underperformed massively this year, we have not got enough to challenge, but we certainly have enough to be at the same level as leicester and chelsea. Only reason we're not, is Solskjaer and his two coaches. They are all clueless.


5.) 23 Dec 2019 16:29:26
Until a DoF and a restructure up above us done we could have Pep, Klopp and Fergie in the dugout and we would flounder.
Poor recruitment and strategy are to blame, Ole is not the ideal manager either but he is and a lot players are simply not good enough.
As per my post yday, change will breed more instability, why we should've stuck by the LVG > Allegri plan, and Ole has bought 3 players, all good signings imo and needs by us and the club to be allowed to have Jan and the summer to continue the long needed transition.
The club have found a man in Ole who can transition the club without fans on their or his back and hopefully he can bring in the right players if only to hand over to someone who can then take us on.


6.) 23 Dec 2019 18:38:42
Park3Lung, I totally agree mate. Many posters on here would say that we would not take Steve Bruce, Roy Keane, Mark Hughes or Gordon Strachan. All were great United Players, but rubbish managers. Why is OLE any different.


7.) 23 Dec 2019 18:54:29
WRD

Seriously, you think “the club have found a man in Ole who can transition the club without fans on their or his back”?

The longer this goes on the greater the risks and if we miss out on proper managers whilst this farce continues the club would deserve the mess.


8.) 23 Dec 2019 20:04:17
Top post AAA I couldn’t agree more.

Cantona - I agree mate. At the end of the day Ole is Ole the player, he is now Ole the manager. It’s his job to sort these boys out and get the playing at the standard which is expected at this club. If he can’t do it, which in all honesty it’s obvious he cannot, then he must go. You could give him 10 more windows and we wouldn’t be challenging.

WRD - whilst I agree changing and sacking managers can breed instability, sometimes keeping someone longer than their sell by date is even more damaging than keeping them. What we are seeing is not a transition, it’s a decline. Transition means there is change but there is a way to a bigger plan or objective. You can see the steps that must be taken to get to where you want to be. I cannot see any steps, progress or signs of what we are trying to do, and even worse, where we want to be. We are leaderless, rudderless and disgraceful at the minute. Red man is right, keeping him increases the risk of losing out on a top manager. We will be in the wilderness for years if that happens. I agree managers need time, but they don’t when they are clearly the wrong fit and choice for the club.


9.) 23 Dec 2019 23:15:51
Not here to bash anyone and I respect everyone's opinions on here. All I want is consistency from posters. So those bashing Ole, we all no that the inevitable will happen, but I will like that you'll bash him when we win also and not only when the side loses a game. be consistent ok😁.


10.) 24 Dec 2019 10:37:15
St Lucia - bash Ole when he wins? I don't really know what you are trying to say but nobody on this thread has said anything that is not backed up by reason or evidence as to what they have been seeing. When Ole got us the wins against Spurs and City, many posters including myself, praised him but were aware that those wins only papered over the cracks. So just because we criticise now does not mean we are 'inconsistent'. It seems if you say anything negative about Ole then the 'OleIn' brigade will jump all over you. It is so odd tbh. Ask any united fan and of course they want Ole to succeed but it is quite clear and obvious he does not have the ability to do so. Anyway merry xmas and here is to a better 2020 for United.


11.) 24 Dec 2019 12:54:44
Am definitely not part of the Ole in brigade. I personally want him gone (sooner the better) cuz his ideology is stuck in the past. All he talks about is his days under Sir Alex. What worked for Sir Alex back then doesn't mean it will work now, plus Ole doesn't have the necessary skill set to implement Sir Alex's methods. All this talk of the past is why we're stuck in this rut. We need a forward thinking manager and forward thinking board.


 

 

 

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19 Jan 2020 21:05:08
Grim he did also say United would be an attractive prospect to work on. I see him at Spurs too though.

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14 Jan 2020 16:36:03
Unless we look to go to a 3 shappy. Lindelof, Maguire and koulibaly. Let’s say Poch comes in, he did like to play that formation so that makes more sense.

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14 Jan 2020 16:35:05
Saw that regarding Koulibaly. Can’t see it happening at all.

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14 Jan 2020 11:26:02
Shappy that’s nonsense. You always want the best man for the job and if the current person is o to of his depth, you make the decision that best serves the organisation.

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14 Jan 2020 06:48:57
Bit harsh on Setien Stevie. His Betis side were one of the most attractive teams to watch last season. With Barca’s side, could be something special.

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19 Jan 2020 21:04:15
Haha yeh fair point ken 😂. I just love his commitment to the cause. Something we’ve lacked for years. Unfortunately we are severely lacking in quality both in terms of coaching staff and players. Hence why we are seeing what we are seeing.

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19 Jan 2020 11:03:25
Good post red man. Can’t really argue with any of that.

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16 Jan 2020 11:49:03
I love Juan Mata. He’s a beautiful footballer and it’s a shame he doesn’t quite have that extra yard of pace. His vision is brilliant, he’s so intelligent and a real role model on and off the pitch. He’s really immersed himself in Manchester too. He’d be my starting 10 until hopefully Bruno comes in. With this squad being so young, people like mata need to be kept in and around the squad, even if he’s rotation. He’s still got so much quality for the right sort of game where we need to unlock sides. Classy player. Classy individual.

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13 Jan 2020 19:19:13
Aguero for me. Supremely consistent, big game player and can do everything. Still haunts us that we missed out on him and David Silva.

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13 Jan 2020 09:23:15
He has been brilliant. Developed his physique a lot this season. Ole has managed him well. Credit to him.

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