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24 Jul 2016 12:15:33
Di marzio says 120m € bid rejected.
We should step back now.
There has to be a limit.

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24 Jul 2016 12:38:42
Or we can throw in Rojo, Jones, Valenica, Fellaini and some money. Jobs at good one 😏.

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{Ed041's Note - so that's 5m back.

24 Jul 2016 12:40:47
If true, yes we should.

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24 Jul 2016 12:53:19
Yep; we should run like the wind from that mob.

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24 Jul 2016 12:59:20
If true can't see us going higher than that. That's about 104 million sterling.

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21 Jul 2016 10:15:48
United in advance, talks with fabinho.

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21 Jul 2016 14:34:22
Good player.

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21 Jul 2016 15:42:33
The names a clue ;)

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21 Jul 2016 19:29:22
Never realised he is 6 ft 2 - always handy in a defender.

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24 Jul 2016 01:06:12
What's an advance talk consist of? Seems to be taking a while.

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24 Jul 2016 09:23:16
It means there is somebody there who can actually pronounce words yo.

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21 Jul 2016 09:22:39
Hairdresser - Pogba deal is done!

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21 Jul 2016 14:07:13
Who should we believe:the hairdresser or the players agent who tweeted that everything is just bla bla bla😒.

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21 Jul 2016 14:59:04
By the sounds of it, it's almost done just negotiating agent fee mino wants €18m we want to pay €9m.

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21 Jul 2016 16:08:49
The hairdresser apparently tweeted that he was fixing his hair for the colour of Pogba's new team. Photos today show it as white. We will have to wait and see if it is a different colour tomorrow.

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20 Jul 2016 20:11:17
L'Equipe - Pogba deal done.

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20 Jul 2016 21:19:40
I know it has been said before but to spend that sort of money on a player he would need to be able to change games single handedly and to date I haven't seen enough evidence of that with Pogba. Just hope he fulfills his potential.

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20 Jul 2016 21:35:12
To be honest if this is the guy our manager said he needs at any cost then we have to trust him. I don't think he is worth that much but if we challenge for the title this season and it attracts other big names so be it. Come on United let's get back to the glory days.

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20 Jul 2016 21:39:56
Some players win you games in a minute some win you a league over the course course of a season he is in the latter group.

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20 Jul 2016 21:51:29
I know statistics can be manipulated to show anything, but there was an interesting piece in the Manchester Evening News which basically said that as a proportion of turnover the suggested Pogba purchase ranks only 3rd on the list of our purchases. Veron was the most cash intensive, followed by Rio and then pogba.

I personally think that buying both sanches and kante would have given us a better more balanced midfield and would have cost less. But ultimately it is Jose team and he will either succeed or fail based on his decisions. The glazers have obviously set a budget and old Jose is spending how he sees fit. At least the glazers and mr Woodward are giving him the best opportunity to deliver his objectives.

If the £200m war chest is to be believed there is still &35-40m left before sales of existing players to facilitate buying a new RB or CB.

If we add either or even both we really should be challenging next season. I don't expect it to be a guaranteed first place finish. I think pep has will add quality to an already good squad. Chelsea seem to be adding quality. It should be an exciting season.

Add to that the fact that the club name has been an ever present in all media for the last month with all the transfer activity we will probably sign more lucrative sponsorship deals given the exposure the name man Utd brings that will make the pogba purchase look even cheaper as a percentage of turnover.

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20 Jul 2016 21:51:29
I know statistics can be manipulated to show anything, but there was an interesting piece in the Manchester Evening News which basically said that as a proportion of turnover the suggested Pogba purchase ranks only 3rd on the list of our purchases. Veron was the most cash intensive, followed by Rio and then pogba.

I personally think that buying both sanches and kante would have given us a better more balanced midfield and would have cost less. But ultimately it is Jose team and he will either succeed or fail based on his decisions. The glazers have obviously set a budget and old Jose is spending how he sees fit. At least the glazers and mr Woodward are giving him the best opportunity to deliver his objectives.

If the £200m war chest is to be believed there is still &35-40m left before sales of existing players to facilitate buying a new RB or CB.

If we add either or even both we really should be challenging next season. I don't expect it to be a guaranteed first place finish. I think pep has will add quality to an already good squad. Chelsea seem to be adding quality. It should be an exciting season.

Add to that the fact that the club name has been an ever present in all media for the last month with all the transfer activity we will probably sign more lucrative sponsorship deals given the exposure the name man Utd brings that will make the pogba purchase look even cheaper as a percentage of turnover.

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20 Jul 2016 22:28:50
But now multiple media outlets from Italy saying Madrid back in and will match Uniteds offer.

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20 Jul 2016 22:51:07
Di Marzio reporting Madrid came asking Pogba but he said he's already agreed with United. I expect a move by Madrid to save face must be a sad day for them not being able to financially bully every club anymore.

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20 Jul 2016 22:50:26
Burnley, if LVG had said, I need 100m for Pogba - would you have trusted his judgement?

Regardless of the quality of the manager, and Jose IS quality, despite my personal views about him, 100m is still a ridiculous amount of money to be risking on a good player, albeit one with a tremendous amount of potential. He could just as easily end up with a career-ending injury in pre-season.

Personally, if I'm spending 100m, I spend it on two or three top players, or I buy Bale, or a Ronaldo from a few years ago. Not a promising talent, surrounded by a ridiculous amount of hype.

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{Ed041's Note - but lvg had two seasons and a lot of money to prove to the fans he was making the right decisions and taking the club on. He didn't do that.
Jose has come in and said what and who he wants and again the club have got them if possible. Comparing the two is irrelevant I think.

20 Jul 2016 23:19:27
Ed, sorry, my point was meant to be more, how you rate the manager seems to determine whether or not you'll trust him with 100m. And it shouldn't. If LVG had wanted him at the start of his reign, would many on here have trusted him with it? The answer for me, is still no. To be honest, I wouldn't have trusted him with £100, but that's another discussion :) If he'd wanted to buy a proven star like Bale, then it might have been a different answer. Not if he was wanting to spend it on Pogba. A player I like, and would be a good purchase.

I'm probably being old-fashioned, but I expect a bit more for 100m+ than a good player with potential. There are any number of players in that category, who would offer much more value for money. He wasn't even the best midfielder for France.

And for all those who keep wittering on about how, 'it's not your money, get your head out of the sand, lads. It all has a trickle down effect in the end. And I always like a good laugh at Man Utd fans justifying it to themselves so easily, after spending the last lot of years denigrating Chelsea and City for spending silly money.

Yep. I'm an old goat :)

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{Ed041's Note - so you would be happy to spend money and see how he does this season then back him next?

I keep reading people expect more for 100m well who? 2 Sterling's or Stones? 3 Andy Carrols? 1 and a half Lukaku's....? The going rate on players will always increase.

20 Jul 2016 23:27:49
Noucamp it's not my money it doesn't matter what I think. I am sure Man Utd can afford it with all these sponsorship deals around. I said I don't personally think he is worth it but I trust the manager and the club and you have to agree this transfer window has been handled a lot differently this year and I think we need to get behind the team and manager from right at the start.

I don't tHinksey it matters what I would have thought if LVG was buying because to be fair he spent a lot of money and won the fa cup in 2 seasons. Let's hope this year we can really have a go, I for one cannot wait for the season to start.

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21 Jul 2016 01:31:45
I'm sure he will be insured Noucamp, don't worry to much about a career ending injury.

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21 Jul 2016 03:14:57
Bale wasn't a proven star when he cost Real Madrid all that money. He'd had a couple of good seasons at Spurs and scored a few goals. Not won the league or an FA cup.
He could quite easily have been another Michael Owen for them. He did have potential and has fulfilled some of that potential. But don't make out like Bale was a guaranteed success.

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21 Jul 2016 06:42:11
Bale was a game changer back then as well - that's what you pay the big money for. Players who can hurt you with their skill and pace. Most people who've watched him knew he was destined for the top even before then. I'd say he's fulfilled plenty of his potential.

How often have you seen Pogba change a game?

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21 Jul 2016 06:50:32
We are 18 months away from possibly seeing a 150 mill player on the market in my opinion. so transfer fees are just daft -
If United get Pogba then there is your benchmark for a Bale or a Neymar . the Pogba fee + 30 million - football is just money daft.

Hammers linked with James Rodriguez at 50 mill, Everton wanting 50+ for Lukaku . Stones / Bomucci the same . Watford wanting 35 + for Ingallo . Place offering 30 mill for Benteke .35 mill for sissoko, . its not stopping anytime soon its just going up and up because of the money in the game.

Just reading a running back at Colarado rapids american football team signed a new deal . must guarantee him a minimum of 70 million dollars per year although the contact is for 104 mil dollars a year incl bonuses. and he is not the highest paid player! . who is to say what will be the norm here in next 5 years? When there is now billions in football why wouldn't clubs ask 45 million for a palyer we all know is worth 20 mill . its a game within a game now and fans can only look on at this new monolopy money world its become.

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21 Jul 2016 00:27:57
Sorry, Ed, I don't know where you got that from. I've every faith that Jose is a top manager, and his track record means he doesn't have to take a year to prove himself to me. My point is because some on here rate Jose, they're happy to back his judgement, whereas the same people didn't rate LVG, and if he'd said he needed to spend £100m for the right player, they wouldn't have let him near the money. Even though LVG had a decent CV as well.

My argument is that it shouldn't depend on the manager at all. I couldn't care less who the manager is in this case - I still think 100m is too high for what we're looking at.

I hate estimating values of players, but for discussion's sake and off the top of my head, we could have had two or three out of a combination of any of the following - Kanté, Varane, Stones, Kroos, Matuidi, Draxler, Alli, Mahrez etc.

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{Ed041's Note - I do get what your saying mate. 100m is a lot, but if mourinho feels that is the player he needs to get us challenging again so be it.
Good post by the way.

21 Jul 2016 10:25:18
I think we need to forget about figures. value for money is not something we (those not working in Uniteds commercial department) can understand with the way the club can market a player in seemingly infinite ways these days. The Glazers definitely won't be spending £100m for fun as they're clearly not that type of owner, so they must feel the price tag to be worth it United is one of the most recognisable and prestigious brands in the world. This price tag for most (if not all) other clubs wouldn't be worth it because they can't get the market exposure etc out of the player that we can and they don't have the operational income that we have.

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21 Jul 2016 10:43:12
The difference between ourselves and city/ chelsea/ psg is that this is the clubs own money that's being spent and not some oil billionaires.

Would city have been able to sign aguero an yaya just using their own money?

Id rather see uniteds money spent than disappearing into the glazers back pockets or to a bank on interest on debt.

100 million is excessive but the same was said about Trevor Francis, shearer and Ronaldo.

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21 Jul 2016 12:51:20
Mort, I don't mind spending the money. In fact, I don't think we've done it quite enough over the years, when needed. And I don't mind spending £100 million of the club's money either, on a proven world star (it does stick in the craw a little, to be fair) .

I do mind spending such a sum on this particular player, that's all.

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21 Jul 2016 13:54:07
If the transfer does go through I can't wait to see the even more anti United articles in the Spanish press. Marca will be even more of a comic book than usual :)

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20 Jul 2016 12:10:43
Apparently, Victor Lindelof is in the country and having discussions with Chelsea?

Was this guy not one of our targets?

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20 Jul 2016 13:04:56
Yes he is.

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20 Jul 2016 15:32:38
Are we focusing on other signings or until Pogba is done, nothing is on the agenda?

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20 Jul 2016 15:44:03
Maybe Jose is happy with defenders he has: Smalling, Bailly, Blind, Jones, Tuanzebe.

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20 Jul 2016 18:43:35
Was he one of our targets?
The only targets we know of are Bailly, zlatan and Micky.
The rest are all assumed.
Relax. we will be okay.

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19 Jul 2016 08:57:36
From what I've been told by friends who work at Carrington who have heard players talking, Pogba isn't happening so let's all put that to bed. His agent is basically just using us and the media to get himself and Pogba more money from Juventus whilst they hold out for Madrid next season.
The whispers currently going around at the moment is that Mourinho's actual midfield target is his trusted protector Matic. He is seen as the player to protect the back 4. Matic also wants the move now that Kante and is confirmed.

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19 Jul 2016 09:15:36
CAN madrid even sign players next season?

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19 Jul 2016 09:27:58
I would be more than happy with a Matic in the form he was a couple of seasons ago. Then if Woodward still feels like he's got too much cash burning a hole in his pocket, a player Kroos would go down very nicely.

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19 Jul 2016 09:53:17
If we don't get Pogba it will be Andre Gomes imo.

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19 Jul 2016 10:00:48
Real Madrid will be transfer banned next season.

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19 Jul 2016 10:04:50
nice theory just tell your friends next please check their facts, if pogba move to madrid doesn't happen this year, he isn't going to madrid for next 2 either. according to ed002 juventus want matic, we haven't heard a word about matic to utd from anyone who can be considered remotely reliable, and looking at some of your previous posts i think it is safe to assume u aren't either.

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19 Jul 2016 10:26:19
juventus have signed pjanic and lemina 2 top class cm so it makes sense that someone from there midfield is leaving?

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19 Jul 2016 13:52:01
Somebody needs to tell Sky, they are running with the Pogba to United thing today again.

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19 Jul 2016 14:44:58
Looks like a bid of 104 million euros is imminent. Reported in Italy today that if Pogba leaves Juventus, they will us the money to be Higuain. Wait and see!

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19 Jul 2016 14:54:54
Looks like your mates have given you some bad information.

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19 Jul 2016 16:00:16
reals and athleticos bans were suspended pending appeals, been nothing in media since late january.

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19 Jul 2016 16:04:09
How credible are you're make believe friends at carrington going to be when he signs for us?

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19 Jul 2016 16:09:51
The United players would definitely have the inside scoop on Pogba's agent secret plan to use us to get more money

Either that or your friends have read a newspaper in the last two weeks and added the words "I work at carringtom"

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19 Jul 2016 16:36:16
Go home LVG your drunk.
👍.

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19 Jul 2016 17:38:25
LVG I had hoped we had heard the last when you got your golden handshake. I was also under the impression that you didn't have friends at Carrington.

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19 Jul 2016 19:50:17
Was just joshing.

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20 Jul 2016 08:59:37
Rumours aside who actually wants Pogba for the prices being reported?
Would you rather have 1) Pogba for £100 mil + big wages or would you rather have 2) Matic/ Matuidi and a spare 60/ 70 mil to improve the squad further?
Agree for option 1
Disagree for option 2.

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20 Jul 2016 09:09:42
LVG,

Option 2 would obviously win but is utterly unrealistic, you think we could get Matic and Matuidi for £40m? Nonsense.

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20 Jul 2016 09:10:59
Just realised you meant one or the other, in that case Option 1 all day long, Pogba is and will be better than the other two and that is what really matters. I think the rest of the squad is looking pretty good now just a top centre mid needed.

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20 Jul 2016 09:15:08
We as fans should not worry about fees of players as this don't affect us in anyway. if 100 mil for pogba is what's needed to win us silverware then so be it!

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20 Jul 2016 09:22:22
It's only 30 million more than we get from adidas each year so the fee just isn't important, it's ridiculous but paying anything for a footballer is.

Strengthening the squad further would be nice but there is a point where more additions becomes counter productive as integrating so many new players at once would be difficult especially with a new manager as well.

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19 Jul 2016 08:57:36
From what I've been told by friends who work at Carrington who have heard players talking, Pogba isn't happening so let's all put that to bed. His agent is basically just using us and the media to get himself and Pogba more money from Juventus whilst they hold out for Madrid next season.
The whispers currently going around at the moment is that Mourinho's actual midfield target is his trusted protector Matic. He is seen as the player to protect the back 4. Matic also wants the move now that Kante and is confirmed.

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19 Jul 2016 13:54:14
The only thing that's believable about that post is matic will probable want a move.

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19 Jul 2016 13:55:09
Didn't matic and Jose have a falling out last season?

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17 Jul 2016 19:55:52
Man utd to make a move for fabinho.

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18 Jul 2016 10:45:38
Looks like Jose wants the width to come from his full backs, Shaw provides that we know but Darmian isn't the type who can get up and down like Shaw so can see sense in a move for Fabinho, I wouldn't be surprised to see Darmian moved into central defence with his height.

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18 Jul 2016 11:45:52
TFM at RB, he would definitely provide width and pace. I'd rather see him given a chance at RB than sign Fabinho.

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18 Jul 2016 11:59:45
Tfm I have very high hopes for but he is not a right back imo. He constantly gets dragged into the centre where he is much more comfortable. He will play in midfiekd long term I feel.
So I would taster Get a specialist rb if jose does not want darmian.

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18 Jul 2016 17:50:04
I really hope we are after fabinho he's excellent going forward him and matuidi i think would make more sense than pogba i know matuidi us nearly 29 but he has the best engine I've seen in a long time and in TFM he has the potential to be just as good as pogba if not better.

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18 Jul 2016 17:50:11
Agree TFM isn't really a RB, I noticed in the Wigan game how he came central often and on a few occasions there was a ball to be played on the right but he was not in a good position to take it. He should be played centrally either CB or holding mid/ box to box.

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18 Jul 2016 20:09:12
Think Damian will be our first choice right back and if he plays how he started the season with us that is more than fine with me. Injuries and LVG were a major factor in his dip of form last year. Also don't think him being 6ft qualifies him to moved into centre back either Welsh red devil.

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18 Jul 2016 21:28:18
I like darmian but he has constantly been linked with a move away so if he does go wet NEC to replace him. Tfm is not the answer there. Varela is not the answer for sure so we do need a rb but only if darmian leaves.

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18 Jul 2016 21:57:31
Why not, he can play anywhere across the back four, ivanovic was a centre back who then was right back. Jose likes tall players and I don't think he's been too bad, personally hope he stays.

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19 Jul 2016 08:52:38
Personally I believe Fabinho won't come to anything. The player Mourinho deep down wants as his right back is Kyle Walker. As mentioned before Mourinho likes his width to come from the full backs and with Shaw and Walker we have a deadly wide attacking force. Watch this space.

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19 Jul 2016 08:52:38
Personally I believe Fabinho won't come to anything. The player Mourinho deep down wants as his right back is Kyle Walker. As mentioned before Mourinho likes his width to come from the full backs and with Shaw and Walker we have a deadly wide attacking force. Watch this space.

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19 Jul 2016 17:17:22
LVG I'm deeply concerned you know what Jose wants deep down.

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16 Jul 2016 16:37:00
Eds do you think utd are interested in mahrez, looks like he too will be leaving leicester. Mkhitaryan played at no 10 today, if that is where mourinho might play play him, that would still leave us with no good rw.
Martial- Mkhitaryan-Mahrez now that would be a magnificent trio.

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{Ed004's Note - I don't know if we have shown any interest in him or not}

16 Jul 2016 18:27:05
Hopefully we do. Thanks anyway ed.

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16 Jul 2016 22:57:45
No good player for the right? Rashford? Has everyone forgot him?

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17 Jul 2016 03:42:20
But why keep playing players out of position?

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{Ed001's Note - that has always been his position on the right, he played out of position up front.}

17 Jul 2016 11:23:53
Rashford has the ability to play anywhere across a front line and cause carnage, but with the quality around him now he should be allowed to play out wide and run at people to stretch defences.

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{Ed041's Note - Rashford is a central striker for me.

17 Jul 2016 14:15:43
He was played as a ST by LVG and told to always be around the goal. Paul Mcguiness also stated, that Rashford was becoming an out n out ST all he needed to add was them poachers goals to his games.

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17 Jul 2016 19:53:03
Cr92, on the right has been his position until last season.

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17 Jul 2016 20:35:05
StandUnited, good for him!

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18 Jul 2016 18:24:09
Why not try depay on the right after all he is a naturaly right footed i'm surprised he's not been tried before to be honest.

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16 Jul 2016 17:44:44
Are we still interested in Nikola Maksimović of Torino?

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16 Jul 2016 19:50:00
Yes we are.

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