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14 Apr 2019 16:12:09
I see Paul Scholes has said he can't see us challenging for the title next season. Given his opinion was so highly rated by many on here about Mourinho, who thinks he is correct on this?

I think there is a chance of challenging next season but it needs a strong summer window plus Ole to realise he is manager, none of this leave the car park space for his old boss nonsense (if that is true) and get Meulenstein involved. He needs set out a style, be decisive over failing players like Young and improve his in game management. However, my concern is that the club will fall short on what it needs.

The Ed's comment that Solskjaer will have little say in transfers is very concerning. I fear we will buy for some not all the positions and not at the quality level needed to save money, nor exit those who need to go perhaps because the decision makers don't want to be seen as wrong over previous decisions. That could see us challenging for third. It needs decisive action, selling and buying but are the club capable? In that case Scholes may well be right.

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1.) 14 Apr 2019 17:43:29
Red Man, nothings changed. Its the same squad Jose struggled with minus Fellaini. How much control over transfers did Jose have? We all know he asked for a centre back and never got one. As long as we have these owners and their man running things we won't challenge. We haven't challenged since we can Persie's first season.


2.) 14 Apr 2019 17:55:29
Ed002 pointed out that we're looking at players that Jose wanted, but the club refused to purchase. That alone shows you there is no planning. We'll buy random players, for random systems, for different managers and hope that one clicks.

Ole really needs to grab this opportunity with two hands because it will never come again. The ruthless Ole that his old teammates talk about would want to put his stamp on this team.

The sad thing is, if Jose can't get the board to buy what we need, then Ole, a fan of the club at his dream job isn't going to ruffle any feathers. But I sincerely hope he does.


3.) 15 Apr 2019 12:18:35
this summer will prove where the owners priorities are and what they care more for.

do they cash in on the only 2 players that will get a hefty fee for or do we invest and get rid of the rubbish.


 

 

10 Jan 2019 06:50:04
I have just read there has been a major rule change for this seasons Champions League. Any players signed in the January transfer window will be eligible for the knockout rounds even if they have played in the group stages of the competition for another club earlier in the season.

I wonder if that could stir up activity in the January transfer window!

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1.) 10 Jan 2019 11:25:18
10 days in and none so far Red Man.

Though if Solanke is worth £19m and Callum Wilson is worth £50m I think we might be better just sticking with what we have got.


2.) 10 Jan 2019 12:47:24
Looking at most of what we've been linked with i'd save the money as well.


3.) 10 Jan 2019 13:47:11
Callum wilson is a decent striker.


4.) 10 Jan 2019 14:10:39
Singh,

I know, but £50m? I appreciate the game has changed and the prices of players has increased but that is utterly ridiculous.


5.) 10 Jan 2019 14:53:33
Decent players should not be going for £50m. Same with Tarkowski. Its this that pushes prices up for good players.


6.) 10 Jan 2019 18:13:45
I know GDS but we can't do nothing to change it. It is still not bad as Andy Carroll going for 35 mil.


7.) 10 Jan 2019 21:10:32
We paid over £50m for Fred, makes Wilson for £50m look like a bargain.


8.) 10 Jan 2019 22:30:46
So true danny. We have gone after two players which city were after and both have so far let us down.


9.) 10 Jan 2019 19:42:41
Hearing strong rumors that we are interested in signing Manolas from Roma this January. Does any of the Eds know if it's legit?

{Ed002's Note - They will have the opportunity to talk with Roma in Geneva next week - with Roma looking to move him on in the summer.}


10.) 11 Jan 2019 09:58:08
With Aldervierweld supposedly have a £25 million clause surely that is great value. Even 35-40 would be.


11.) 11 Jan 2019 12:01:20
You'll always pay a premium for decent English players.


12.) 11 Jan 2019 16:03:30
If Wilson's worth 50 what's Rashford worth?


13.) 12 Jan 2019 11:49:46
Mort it doesn’t matter what Rashford is worth because we won’t be selling him and don’t need the money.

£50m is the new £30m.


14.) 12 Jan 2019 13:30:29
Never suggested we should sell him or that we needed the money. Just a question on what his value is.


15.) 12 Jan 2019 17:17:25
According to transfermarkt, his value is 65m euro. Doenst mean United would accept that though :)


 

 

23 Jul 2018 19:43:22
Who knows how true a rumour is but today it is said Mourinho is meeting Woodward and a member of the Glazer family. It is rumoured Mourinho is not at all happy with transfers. Last summer he openly asked for 4 and they let him down only got 3 and didn't bring in the wide attacker, we can see what has happened this summer and whilst the window isn't closed is anyone else getting the feeling there is a financial squeeze?

I hope Mourinho has the guts to call the owners and Woodward out, something SAF didn't. To get change a business needs to experience pain so for me if there is a financial squeeze I hope Mourinho walks away, leaves us in the mess the club will have brought on itself. Years of no value, LvG saying he didn't get what he wanted, only 3 out of 4 last summer. The trend has to stop now, I hope Mourinho is the one to finally take a stand. What we have isn't good enough, 2 more players, no fullbacks, really? Time for change at Old Trafford.

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1.) 23 Jul 2018 20:46:59
Red man the club is obviously trying to sell off a few before we can buy. Our moto like citys when they first got money of double or tripling players wages will always come back to haunt us. Weve spent like the moneys burning a hole in our pockets without a clear plan. The club may also view 3/ 8 of joses signings could be gone by the end of the summer that's hardly a good turn around on who the manager is investing in either.


2.) 23 Jul 2018 20:52:36
Hope so RM.


3.) 23 Jul 2018 21:17:56
W16wes

Do we really know how many were Mourinho’s first choice? We know he did not get Perisic. There is a pattern from when the owners arrived and now the club owners need to realise this isn’t a transition from SAF to a new manager but from United to a new dynasty, either City or Liverpool and they are letting it happen on their watch. I have banged on about a plan for years whilst watching City when they were dismissed as noisy. The owners need to have a plan and be decisive, now, right now.


4.) 23 Jul 2018 21:36:52
Walk away without a payoff? Rightfully no way he'd do that.

If mourinho is really that upset, no reason why they can't come to a mutual agreement and a stopgap manager put in charge till next season.


5.) 23 Jul 2018 21:39:44
Think we have spent plenty with the last 2 managers. Our targets are with other large European clubs and so it’s not easy to get them in.
Where is the development of youth? We have a good coaching and scouting system with some excellent youngsters pushing through who won’t get a chance under JM.
It’s not all about pure money.
I like JM but he is a 3 year project which is coming to an end. If he could see the bigger picture then he has the chance to create sonething special at Utd. Our club and fans are more patient and will stick by a manager who is creating a team between bringing in top class and developing youth within. As long as too 4 is achieved people will stick with the project if it’s a long term plan.


6.) 23 Jul 2018 22:49:49
The point is does the club have a plan. It doesn't look like it.


7.) 23 Jul 2018 23:10:52
Mourinho looks completely disinterested during the matches. His demeanor and comments afterward makes it seem like these friendlies are for fitness only, it looks like there are no tactics being worked on. He has also shown very little enthusiasm for his own players. His lack of passion looks like it is spreading to the players, and the fans as well. I think it is shocking that a manager, whatever his resume, can have so little enthusiasm for such a big job.


8.) 24 Jul 2018 04:27:20
Spent millions and people are still hanging on to the poor Jose line .
He didn't get perisic so what it happens, Jose has said he didn't want to come and he signed a nice new deal with inter.
So we went and got Sanchez instead what's the problem?


9.) 24 Jul 2018 06:33:53
Jred

The problem? Fullback, centre half, right side attack to create and score goals, as a minimum.


10.) 24 Jul 2018 06:44:00
Every single manager without exception missed out on at least one transfer target last summer.

It has probably happened to Mourinho every season at every club he has worked at.

Ed002 has said Mourinho doesn't want to be at our club, and that it has little to do with his professional life and more to do with his personal life. That suggests the club aren't doing a lot wrong in Mourinho's eyes.

If he's kicking up a stink it's because he has decided he wants out and is just trying to engineer it. He missed his daughters graduation to be on the preseason tour. From what Ed002 has said that is more likely to have caused Jose's bad mood than a lack of transfers.

6 years ago I would have agreed with you about a lack of investment from the owners. Personally I still think they are investing poorly on quick fixes rather than a long term plan.

However, Jose has spent over 400m so far. A figure matched/ beaten only by Pep at city. So I don't think Jose has a right to claim the owners haven't backed him.

It is not the fault of the money men that the targets Jose wanted haven't worked out. Mkhitaryan already sold. 65m spent on Bailly and Lindelof and yet Jose wants another CB because he isn't happy with the ones he bought. Club record fee on Pogba and now touting him around Europe as again Jose isn't happy with him. Zlatan was only ever a short term fix, yet the club agreed to extend his stay while injured on Jose's say so. Jose then played him 4/ 5 times before he left. He was on a crazy contact by all accounts, so I can't see the club being too happy at extending his contract for him to play less minutes than Scott McTominay.
Sanchez is another who was signed and as yet has not proven his worth.

Then there is the 70m+ worth of young talent in Martial and Shaw which Mourinho shows little interest in developing.

Mourinho has been gloomy and miserable since day one and we can't blame that on the owners. Red man I know your a big Jose fanboy, but it appears I may have been right when I said hiring Jose will end in tears. He just isn't the right fit. I know he has the ego and the drive to win like Sir Alex, but Sir Alex had so much more. It's like taking two ingredients out of your favourite meal and slapping them in something else, it won't be the same as your favourite meal. I love a Sunday roast, and roast potatoes and beef make the meal, however, they would be awful in a trifle, or in my corn flakes.

Sir Alex was the perfect man manager, knowing how to change tact to get a tune out of everyone. With Jose it's his way or the highway.

And so far it looks like it's the highway for around 150-200m worth of our players the most of that players Jose himself has bought. So I could see why the owners might be a little more concerned about trusting Jose's judgement on players this summer.


11.) 24 Jul 2018 07:34:07
Top post Shappy, we’ve spent a lot, some of it badly, bought who the Manager wanted, and he doesn’t play them or wants them gone. It’s the Board’s fault, go figure.


12.) 24 Jul 2018 07:42:54
Shappy

One point I can tell you from your post is very wrong, I am not a Jose “fanboy”, and I have posted who I wanted as manager many times, but why let the truth get in the way of your anti Jose position. When Bailly was playing well Jose got no credit and it was a club decision to buy, now it’s his fault we spent money on him. Pep bought and sold and their club supported him, do we support our own in the same way? Apart from Matic do we really know how many were Jose first choice signings? He needed many positions changing but did he have the budget after years of underfunding? He may have approved some but that doesn’t mean they were his first choice. If you look back at our transfer activity the dip in buying started when the club changed owners, buoyed by the longevity of what was already there and SAF we kept going, the dip started when Ron left and years of underfunding has come home to roost. Looks like we are watching the same dance again this summer.


13.) 24 Jul 2018 08:08:36
Red man, you've always been a huge fan of Jose. Since the mid 00's you have said he would be the perfect replacement for Sir Alex. You said when we hired Moyes that it should have been Jose. Under LvG you said we should have hired Jose. So under our last three managers before hiring Jose you have stated Jose should be our manager. In my books that makes you a bit of a fanboy.

You say the spending has dried up under the current ownership. Yet the the club has broken it's transfer record as many times since Sir Alex has retired as we did under him. We've broken the world record transfer fee and the world record fee paid for a teenager in the last 4 seasons.

Has Jose been backed? Yes, 400m in a shade over two years in charge is certainly some backing.

Your excuse of whether they were Jose's first choice is laughable. Bailly wasn't his first choice, and is probably one of his best signings. He wanted Perisic and got Sanchez a player many of us believe is better than his first choice. Zlatan, Matic, Lukaku were definitely his first choice. Pogba was a player he was interested in at Chelsea. Lindelof was another he wanted after leaning heavily on advice from people he trusts in Portugal.

Regardless of whether they are his first choice, second choice or third choice. They are players he wanted and he got them. So he can have no complaints. No manager gets all the players they want, but they don't for the most part throw their toys out the pram like a petulant child. Especially when only one manager in the history of world football has spent more money than you in such a short space of time.

Jose has been well backed, now he has to deliver. So far this preseason he seems to be getting his excuses in early. I suspect another Jose third season implosion.


14.) 24 Jul 2018 08:27:36
Shappy

Incorrect, yet again. I wanted Jose to replace SAF because it needed someone with stature. I wanted Klopp to replace Moyes and then wanted Pep to replace LvG. It was all written on here, only when Pep declared for City did I suggest Jose. If you get that so wrong when I have repeated it many times what else do you get wrong?


15.) 24 Jul 2018 12:48:45
If the board don't trust Jose, why give him a contract extension. Also if Jose is that unhappy why sign it? Just extra post melt down compo?

{Ed002's Note - The club wants consistecy - Mourinho will be more than happy to take the money. The fans did the damage a couple of years ago and are entirely responsible for where the club is now.}


16.) 24 Jul 2018 15:18:22
Ed 002 - LVG and his awful football had nothing to do with it?

{Ed002's Note - No.}


17.) 24 Jul 2018 18:05:52
Shappy on the money.


18.) 25 Jul 2018 11:26:42
Here we go again. Fans fault. Let’s just remove them from football completely. Ruining it.


19.) 26 Jul 2018 11:20:22
Ed do you mind explaining why the fans are at fault?

{Ed002's Note - The toxics forced the club to change their agreed plan because they are far from bright.}


20.) 26 Jul 2018 12:17:33
The agreed plan being to let Van Gaal see out his project?

{Ed002's Note - And then to be replaced by Max Allegri.}


 

 

17 Jul 2018 09:28:49
No idea how true it is but am led to believe that Woodward is struggling on recruitment (perhaps Glazernomics, perhaps being led up dead ends) and the Manager is not happy with the situation. The next few weeks will be interesting.

Red Man

1.) 17 Jul 2018 09:36:47
If Mourinho is going to be that unhappy with the situation i hope both parties come to some sort of mutual termination before the season starts.

Better that than mourinho sulking for the first half in the season and the club has to end up sacking him.


2.) 17 Jul 2018 12:12:59
or maybe its the fact that this is not football manager and it takes time to complete a transfer.

the panic is already starting to creep in.


3.) 17 Jul 2018 12:56:27
If Jose was an adaptable, modest and inspiring manager he would realise that our squad is only 2 or 3 additions away from being up there with the very best.

However, his insistence on sticking with the only way of football he knows and picking fights with his players has left us with a needed squad overhaul in his eyes.


 

 

01 May 2017 09:31:34
I read this morning that Romero has bought a house in Milan. Obviously no idea if that is true or whether he is leaving but strange place to buy if you play in Manchester.

Red Man

1.) 01 May 2017 13:41:07
Holiday home/ investment property? Doubt he's short of a few quid.


2.) 01 May 2017 18:25:03
Linked with inter.


3.) 02 May 2017 08:23:11
Get the lad from Milan and send them a ready made replacement?


 

 

 

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02 Jun 2019 17:15:42
The multiverse theory, every possible thing that happens has an alternative and means a Universe takes a different path. Imagine being in the one where the Glazers bought City, FSG bankrupted Liverpool, or where United had a plan. We could dream.

Club games are over and now the merry go round of players and managers starts. Massimo Allegri became available, imagine if we hadn't appointed the sentimental choice, imagine Poch actually wanted to come to United. We could dream. In a Universe somewhere Woodward is still in a bank.

Red Man

1.) 02 Jun 2019 17:36:02
In an alternative universe Ed Woodward is the greatest footballer of all time and Red Man supports Liverpool. 🤣.


2.) 02 Jun 2019 17:51:17
. or Red Man had faith in Ole.


3.) 02 Jun 2019 18:29:56
Imagine a universe where Red Man isn’t wearing grumpy pants. No, I can’t either 😳.


4.) 02 Jun 2019 23:42:45
It's a shame the governing bodies that blocked Rubert Murdochs bid for us citing it would have an "adverse affect on the wider football industry". It's a shame they couldn't step in to stop owners that only had an interest in cannibalising our club for their own financial gain.


 

 

26 May 2019 11:07:50
It seems everyone is getting excited about DeLigt, so I may be the only one concerned should it all be about money. Money isn't a motivator.

We need a leader, a CB for sure, but we expect a 19 year old to carry the team at a time when we are struggling, don't have a leader from manager down and that is a big ask for anyone. To me it has the smack of Woodward and Co trying to show we and they still have it, the charisma to do things "others in the transfer market can only dream of". We are after a young talented Dutch player who had a good season, just like Rashford when he first burst on the scene and now expect him to be the cornerstone of the team. I would not dismiss the opportunity but have misgivings over it. After all these same decision makers gave new contracts to Young, Smalling and Jones plus the manager allegedly told Rojo he is in his plans.

Red Man

1.) 26 May 2019 11:50:15
The Dutch league is an easier league to play in.
He is young and part of an Ajax side that has over achieved this year in the CL.

Of course we need leaders in the team, along with experience.
De Ligt looks a good player.

Given our defensive frailties, most CBs will be linked with the club during the summer transfer window.


2.) 26 May 2019 11:55:22
We shouldn't be signing De Ligt and i think we will get a smack in our face if it fails. Let him go to Barcelona and we should go for Milenkovic or Dias.

First choice would be Koulibaly but i think napoli are taking the mick with their asking price.

One thing i am happy about is Lukaku looking to leave and i hope that happens.

Get rid of Pogba as well and go all out for Ndombele or Niguez.


 

 

19 May 2019 08:46:35
The rumour mill today is that OGS is open to selling Pogba because he doesn't want an unhappy player (you could read trouble into that), however Woodward doesn't want to sell because he thinks selling a top player sends out the wrong message (you could read media clicks? ) . If that is true it amply demonstrates the issues we have. Our last manager referred to a virus and wasn't supported now we have this. We don't know the inner workings but being open to sell is vague, either want him gone or not and if deemed that important it should be a matter of principle.

Red Man

1.) 19 May 2019 09:15:40
I read the other day that mourinho and now ole were contemplating selling martial because of his attitude in training and games but he is a favourite of one of the glazers and won't be sold. The more rumours like this come out, the more you have to question what is going on at the club and how much say the manager has in the squad.


2.) 19 May 2019 12:49:44
If that’s the case and Ole has anything about him he should walk away. Clubs rotten at the minute. Manager has to make the big calls on the playing squad for me. I understand clubs have teams who collectively look at recruitment and things but if the manager wants a player out of the dressing room it should happen.


3.) 19 May 2019 13:20:56
Some on here don't half believe some crap that is written in papers.


4.) 19 May 2019 13:33:55
When it suits them angel.


 

 

16 May 2019 19:04:16
Tuanzebe, I would be interested in the opinion of those who have seen more of him this season

I watched the Villa game the other night and it is too little time to form a real opinion plus TV doesn't give all the angles, however my observations were; displayed bravery in tackles, reads the game reasonably and had good recovery pace. However, he became flustered under pressure and gave the ball away a couple of times, not completely assured; got himself out of position a couple of times and for the headed goal he lost who he was marking and they scored. I watched his partner Tyrone Mings put him in position once which was interesting. To be honest Mings looked a decent centre half on the night, certainly a bit more experience at 26 than Axel.

I wasn't convinced about him being first choice at United but am not saying he isn't good enough to be in the squad, welcome others thoughts who have seen more.

Red Man

1.) 16 May 2019 19:16:15
The aston villa page might be worth a shout.


2.) 16 May 2019 19:48:39
I know a few brummies an they said he's had a good season. Nowhere near the finished article and gave same examples you have but full of promise. I'd have him in the first team squad next season. He'd contribute more than Rojo easily.


3.) 16 May 2019 20:39:04
Villa friends have said he has bags of potential, but needs an experienced partner beside him while he learns his trade.

The problem with him coming back here is that we don’t have anyone to help him develop. Smalling and Jones are poor defenders, Bailly is reckless at best, and Lindelof is still learning too. I think he’d do well if we sold two of Smalling, Jones, and Bailly, and brought in a top class experienced defender to help him and Lindelof develop.


4.) 16 May 2019 22:24:56
Long term I get the feeling the best scenario for him would be similar to Henderson at Sheffield United. Promotion to the PL and stay on loan with then for another season. Then if they can prove they are PL ready then come in and compete.
If Tuanzebe came in for next season I think it would be to challenge for the 3rd/ 4th CB and miss out on full season of game time.


5.) 17 May 2019 07:02:39
He can’t pass the ball too well, often goes sideways or turns around to go backwards if he steps up a bit.

With a bit of luck the number of games he’s playing will increase his confidence and ball playing ability.

Physically no problems, he has strength and pace. Looks like a future PL player, where he ends up depends on how he develops as a footballer.


 

 

14 May 2019 06:59:05
May I recommend reading a comment article today by Ian Herbert, I think it sums things up fairly well.

Red Man

1.) 14 May 2019 07:06:11
any link to it?


2.) 14 May 2019 12:48:12
It's in the Daily Fail, Programmer.


3.) 14 May 2019 13:33:52
Ole sacked


 

 

 

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16 Jun 2019 10:35:02
I believe Mike Phelan as Hull manager gave Maguire his debut so there is a known connection. The rumour is we are willing to sell Leicester Bailly in return, if they want him.

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14 Jun 2019 07:05:09
Telling people to move on should not be acceptable. I had a dose of that from one or two and at one point I was told I had some mental condition on here, some syndrome, all because I had an opinion that someone didn’t agree with. UA, you have an opinion and stand for what you believe.

As for Ole, my opinion is well known, but we haven’t lost games these last few weekends so Ole’s stock must be improving. We are trying to attract players with an amateur manager and I can’t see Ole’s tactical acumen improving due to pre season. Thank goodness Allegri is taking a sabbatical so when Christmas comes and we are in a mess there might be a potential option when Ole is shown the door. Just wish we could be rid of the owners and Woodward as well.

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01 Jun 2019 10:43:18
Ken

Thanks, I wonder if Fernandes being purchased would prevent any possibility of interest in James Maddison. If so, it’s a pity as Maddison looks to have good potential and I understand he is also a United fan which is an added bonus in the motivation stakes. I haven’t seen Fernandes but is he the player we need when our Manager seemed to be heading in a different direction? Yes stats are useful but don’t tell the whole picture and seem to recall you are more in touch with Portuguese football so interested in your opinion.

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01 Jun 2019 09:48:52
Harry Maguire has faults but at a time we are in need of leadership I see the positives in signing him. He is a commanding figure and is also a threat in the opposition box. Whilst I am not directly comparing the two, if a young Steve Bruce was at Norwich now there would be many on here saying he was too slow, gets out of position etc. I think we need an English spine so would buy Maguire.

In answer to having another year at Leicester, another year older and chances to play at the big clubs don’t come around too often.

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21 May 2019 18:46:59
Shappy, my wife wouldn’t be happy with that downgrade but would like the handbags his £4m a year salary would bring.

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24 Jun 2019 18:56:46
Having watched the U21 and yes it was only one game, AWB worried me. They say a United player has to be brave and he looked nervous, the occasion looked like it got to him and if it was the United speculation, imagine what it will be like when he wears the shirt, then his distribution was not good. It made me think step back and re-evaluate. Not saying don’t buy him but an awful lot of money is being asked.

Dalot looks a better player to be honest, stepped into some key games and didn’t look phased, PSG away being one. Why spend £50m+, I am with AAA to be honest but I haven’t seen Aarons.

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21 Jun 2019 16:26:06
People seem to be missing the point with the what has he done. He hasn’t committed a criminal offence but what about discipline and standards. These were very high on the agenda under SAF.

What is the point of making players wear a club blazer if you are going to allow players to behave as they want and ignore what the club stands for? There is a level of respect that should be upheld for whoever is manager and club and it is like some players feel they can ignore this. It isn’t acceptable on that basis. People should respect the club and manager, the fact it looks like they don’t should ring loud alarm bells.

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20 Jun 2019 18:10:54
Haven’t seen the full version, don’t want or need to but did see a bit

People are talking about it so he will get more followers, his agent can ask more fees for advertisers or more for his clothing range. Some will be happy the club have another high click media personality, maybe he will get a pay rise, oh wait. After the season we have had you would have thought he would keep his head down but no.

Again I won’t be popular but it shows he thinks he can do this, I significantly doubt he would have dared under SAF. However, we don’t have a leader as manager, the players may like the manager but the latest media exploits indicates they don’t fear or respect Ole. By all accounts the players call him Ole in training, I bet they didn’t dare call SAF by his first name. It may pass you by but leadership is not necessarily being best friends with everyone. Do you think he would have done what is just nonsense with Pep, Klopp or Poch, really?

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20 Jun 2019 06:58:07
Perthredmike

Exactly, Spanish speaking, very marketable and can help attract in the future. Experience on the pitch. If we had the defence and midfield we could push up the pitch 10 yards bringing the team, defence, midfield and attack closer, less gap between the lines meaning Mata’s intricate skills would be easier to harness.

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19 Jun 2019 21:15:42
We can’t sell everyone all in one go. Mata has experience and seems to have the right attitude so it makes sense to keep him on board. I may be wrong but he is intelligent and a good communicator so it wouldn’t surprise me if they have a coaching or ambassadorial role in mind for him long term.

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