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15 Jan 2019 19:01:53
Chaps,

What do you think the future holds for Lukaku? I think his days are numbered under Ole as he won't be prepared to play second fiddle. Likewise, I'm sure Poch would rather develop a hungry Rashford than an overweight Lukaku.

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15 Jan 2019 23:14:55
He'd only be a united striker if we always play two up top but we won't infact it will be quite rare. Even then, I would rather partner Rash, Martial and Sanchez in any combo before trying Lukaku. Sadly we vastly overpaid and if we could get 50-60million or involved in a trade perhaps I'd get rid in an instant. He's good but not good enough. We need a fluid front free and sadly he can't perform that role.

On the swap note I'd try Juve in return for Dybala. We pay on top ofc.

Or maybe Kante. they need a striker like lukaku imo and Kantes been pushed further forward to a less favourable position?

Dreamer I know!

16 Jan 2019 14:28:29
Lukaku is an interesting player in this time of transition.

One one hand he is clearly a talented striker, his goal scoring record speaks for itself. He is also a hard working and dedicated player, a player who should be a role model to the other younger players.

However, there are glaring flaws in his game. His first touch is very poor, and for his size and strength his ability as a target man is also pretty bad, mostly due to his poor first touch but also because he doesn't play with his head up enough so is unaware of his options upon receiving the ball.

I don't think he works best in a one striker system, there is too much dependency on him holding the ball up long enough for the second wave to join him. Ultimately that is a system that plays to his weaknesses and not his strengths.

However, I don't think his United career is necessarily over if Ole stays in charge. Ole after all played most of his career at United as one of four strikers often playing in a two striker system. Lukaku does have qualities our other strikers lack so as a squad member he is very useful. If anyone can convince him that being part of a larger squad can benefit him its Ole.

However, if Lukaku wants to be first choice then he might have to look elsewhere as I don't think he quite cuts the mustard, no matter how much I want him to succeed.

16 Jan 2019 16:16:05
If Rashford is hungry though won't he turn into lukaku?

17 Jan 2019 05:56:56
First touch is so important for a top striker especially in the penalty zone where there is less space to control the ball.
Lukaku would struggle to play those intricate 1-2 touch quick passes near the goal.
Not sure whether this part of his game play can improve dramatically. Otherwise he has all the necessary physical attributes to be a target man.

18 Jan 2019 09:11:46
He has had a drop in form but will becbavk soon enough.

18 Jan 2019 18:56:27
Its a good question fresh.
Lukaku scores goals. He will continue to score goals either here or elsewhere i'm pretty sure of that.
Sometimes a certain coaches style of play is not suited to a players key strengths. Its up to ole to develop lukaku into what he wants and needs. That is dependent on lukaku wanting and being able to do that.
There would be no shortage of top clubs in for him if he was made available. We might even get our money back or close to it.
Lukaku would be more suited to poch than ole imo for example.
Rashford can't start evey game very few strikers start more than 36 games in a 55/ 60 game season.
He has been sluggish for a while looks a bit slow and heavy to me. i'm not sweating over lukaku at all. I don't think if he is unhappy that he will rock the boat i think he would just move on in the summer. But he might just surprise a few.
Its a no lose situation for me. If he catches fire great if not he goes and does well elsewhere probably in europe somewhere and we get our money to reinvest.

15 Jan 2019 06:29:55
Lukaku for Hazard anyone?

{Ed025's Note - +£50m you mean of course jacko..

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15 Jan 2019 14:23:18
I’d take that now Edko.

15 Jan 2019 17:34:40
Thorgan Hazard?

17 Jan 2019 22:24:28
To be honest the only time Lukaku and Hazard should be used in the same sentence is when discussing his first touch.

14 Jan 2019 21:33:19
Yesterday was the type of game we have seen before, Newcastle away in 96, comes particularly to mind, it is also the type of game where we lost two Champions League finals to Barca. We played one way but couldn't adapt and eventually lost control in the middle of the park. It was a failing SAF had in that he never nailed down controlling a tight midfield in difficult games, like major rivals could do, particularly in Europe. We definitely had a good plan in the first half, but we got outthought in the second and couldn't adapt or change. With OGS being an advocate of SAF tactics we shouldn't have been too surprised

Great result, and like everyone I think OGS has the right demeanour, says the right things and has made it enjoyable right now. However, we also need to develop our approach, the ability to adjust in games if we want to improve in difficult away games and not rely on the genius of DDG like yesterday. I didn't see that yesterday and we need to.

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14 Jan 2019 23:13:29
I don't see too many negatives to be honest redman.
You can't expect the players to suddenly become good enough.
Jones makes and has been making similar errors all his career. Young gets caught under the ball regularly we have no credible alternative for pogba and matic.
But shaw continues to improve as will dalot.

Lindelof also is improving. Herrera is on top of his game and his enthusiasm is infectious. Keeping those guys fit and fresh will be a key challenge. We have good options in attack but we are thin on the ground behind them for the game ole wants to play.

15 Jan 2019 04:56:52
Ran out of legs as well. I think the Dubai camp and travel showed dividends first half but also played a part in how tired we looked 2nd half.

15 Jan 2019 07:02:52
Yes Robbie but Spurs had a tough game against Chelsea with a squad that hasn’t been strengthened and looked to have more legs than us. Travel especially 7 hours can affect players plus jet lag so we should take that into account. I just was pointing out we didn’t get any control in the middle and it was something we saw with SAF as well.

Agree Ken very few negatives but that pattern is something we saw with SAF sides and I think if Ole wants to be permanent it is an area that needs to change from SAF day’s.

15 Jan 2019 09:50:19
We did ok under SAF Redman.

15 Jan 2019 18:35:20
Eric

Yes, we certainly did, but fell short in Europe because midfield was overrun, many on here said we need a plan B (not Fellaini) that involves controll8ng midfield in tough games. It would be the difference between 3 European cups and 6 and that rankles.

15 Jan 2019 22:58:43
It's longer term fitness as well I think, we didn't run much under Mou so it will take time to get that level of prolonged fitness back up and I think that showed 2nd half.
What is worrying though is they had no central midfield for last 3rd of the game and still bossed the play.

It all depends on how we play, if its fast counter attaching then we want cms who can release a forward pass quickly and effectively as pogba, I agree though that we are still a little light in the ball winning department though.

14 Jan 2019 18:42:39
Did I miss something? Lucky to win, Jose performance? Not for me. In the first half we completely dominated them, they were all over the place and didn’t know what to do with us. Second half the reverse was true. Yes they had 11 shots on target but we had 7 so it wasn’t as one sided as some would have you believe.

Ole did a great job in the first half but was unable to respond to the onslaught in the second half. If the halves had happened the other way round we would be having a totally different conversation.

Tottenham were probably knackered and we had enjoyed a break so that probably also played a part, but you can only beat whatever is put in front of you. I look forward to games now, I was on the point of giving up watching towards the end of the miserable one’s reign. I actually don’t mind if we win, lose, or draw, it’s just great to see us attacking again.

United fans on the radio last night were dissing Ole which was unnecessary. As GDS has said, let’s just enjoy the ride and see where it takes us. Imagine if he sees off PSG?

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14 Jan 2019 05:33:57
4 top signings would be immense to our current team.
Mbappe in place of Lingard, Saul Niguez in place of Herrera, Koulibaly for Jones and Ricardo Perreira for Young.
One can dream.

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14 Jan 2019 10:52:49
What’s Lingard done wrong. He’s the key cog in that front three!

14 Jan 2019 11:04:37
Just mentioned my dream signings :)
Mbappe is almost unattainable, but by getting him United could dominate for years.

14 Jan 2019 11:05:29
For me Lingard and Herrera have been excellent under Ole, Lingard was even good under Mourinho. I wouldn't be so quick to replace them.

Clearly we need a first choice CB partner for Lindelof and a RB. If Dalot can step up then great.

For me the areas we need to improve in squad quality. If Matic or Pogba can't play then who does? Also the full back positions are very demanding, beyond Shaw and Dalot we only have Young who can come in without a huge drop in quality. So more depth is needed there, especially when you consider full back is the most physically demanding position on the pitch in the modern era.

So a First choice CB, then quality squad depth options at full back and in midfield.

14 Jan 2019 11:23:24
Yeah, Shaw and Young can fight for LB spot.
We need Dalot and a top right back to compete for the RB spot.
Personally, I feel Herrera has limited ability on the ball. Saul can press with high energy as well as can release our forwards with quality through balls.

14 Jan 2019 11:52:09
Herrera started his career as a No.10, I wouldn't say he is limited on the ball. What I would say is that in our current set up a lot of freedom is afforded to Pogba. In fact, Pogba himself has said it.

To make sure the balance is right Herrera will have to be a little more conservative in his passing to avoid the risk of turn overs and the team being exposed.

Saul is a wonderful player, however, He is left footed the same as Matic, Pogba likes to drift to the left so that he can cut in onto his right foot and shoot. A midfield of Matic, Saul and Pogba would lead to three midfielders who are more comfortable on the left hand side of the pitch possibly leaving gaps to the right.

I think the Balance of Matic, Herrera and Pogba works because Pogba will play in an advanced position on the left, Matic in a withdrawn position slightly to the left and Herrera as a box to box option, although with more onus on defensive work on the right handside.

Also consider Lindelof has being playing the ball out from the back in the RCB position, while a lack of quality at RB means Herrera has to be mindful of losing the ball on that side.

13 Jan 2019 21:06:39
OGS came out and said Rossi is just here to build up his fitness and find a new club.
Maybe he is, but I find it a bit hard to believe.
He just mentioned that he scored a fantastic goal in training.
Are we looking to sign him for 6 months?
I wouldn't be against it, because as injury prone as he is, he can finish, and I'm sure there will be games when we will need a poacher in the last 10 minutes and maybe he'll be one.
This Rossi training here feels a bit weird to me.
I know we did the same with Berbatov, but this one is just out of the blue and odd.

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14 Jan 2019 10:53:56
He’s nowhere near good enough although there are some clubs in the Premier League who need a striker more than us. Huddersfield, Palace, Southampton etc.

14 Jan 2019 11:08:13
Rossi is a former teammate of Ole's, I very much suspect it is just him getting up fitness. He wouldn't get a sniff upfront ahead of Rashford, Lukaku and Martial. Even Sanchez would probably be ahead of him. Then if for some reason all four of them were unavailable I would rather Greenwood be given a shot than an older, perennially injured striker who was never quite good enough for the highest level of the game.

12 Jan 2019 23:21:39
Article about the Class of 92 and their adventure at Salford City.

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09 Jan 2019 21:36:18
Wait until Burton play them at home, its only half time.

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09 Jan 2019 21:42:45
Like it, centurion. Like it.

10 Jan 2019 03:10:02
Foden getting lots of game time under Pep.

07 Jan 2019 20:40:29
I still don't think many fans realise the problems with our club is the glazers,

Other clubs are strengthening and planning for the summer, I just hope we are too but I do feel we are penny pinching.

We don't need to spend stupid amounts we need a rb cb rw.

Couple years ago one of the Ed's did predict by 2022 they would be sold to the Saudi Arabians.

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07 Jan 2019 22:19:57
Mate, we have spent a lot of money, most of it badly. There are not many clubs that have spent more than us so I’m not sure where this view comes from. I’m not a fan of he Glazers but be careful what you wish for.

08 Jan 2019 08:27:11
Beast can I ask how much have you made in the 3 yrs that you’ve invested and what kind of amount you have invested?

08 Jan 2019 13:36:42
Some things are bigger than football. I would not want to be owned by people who have disregard for human rights. I understand if people say it’s nothing to do with us but I’m not sure I am am ok with that.

I would like us to go to a similar way of Bayern. The fans own 51% I believe. We make more than enough money as a club to run without a rich owner. At the moment it seems the glazers are taking money out of the club. We are still leveraged with around 400m of debt and the glazers are only paying off the interest that is on it. The glazers have not spent a dime on developing old Trafford or Carrington. We have fallen behind infrastructure wise. They are business man. And to be quite honest they are phenomenal businessman with a phenomenal model at united.

We make enough money to comfortably spend 200m a year on transfers if need be. I know it won’t happens but I would love us to follow Bayern and give the club back to the fans.

08 Jan 2019 17:52:59
I'm certainly not happy with the Glazers, however, sometimes it's better the devil you know.

When I look around world football, especially the top leagues of Europe I don't see many great owners, or at least none that standout. Maybe it's only the poor ones you hear and read about. But especially in the EPL the list of dodgy owners and mismanaged clubs is endless.

It's a well worn trope of owners getting to involved in team matters, clashing egos with managers, wanting to play fantasy football and sign big name players who don't fit into the managers plans.

Yes the Glazers have saddled us with unnecessary debt, and it's probably true that for a time that debt restricted us from signing some players. However, they have never got too involved in the running of the club.

If the Glazers hadn't bought the club someone else would have. There is no telling that whoever that was would have run the club better or worse.

We might have been in a better position now, or we could have been in a worse one. It's easy to point out the mistakes in hindsight, and say things would have been better if we did x y or z.

For me the biggest mistake the Glazers have done is to trust the day to day running of the football side of the club to a man who doesn't know enough about it. However, most of us would be more inclined to give control over to someone we know well, who has done well for us in the past and who we trust than go out and hire someone who we have no connection with. It's easy to judge them for it and say they should be professional and hire the best person for the job. But in the real world that doesn't always happen. Sometimes we go with our gut, or our heart but ignore our brains.

If you have me a choice right now, Glazers or Saudis? I would go with the devil I know. As I don't like the way the Saudis do business and I wouldn't want to place something I love dearly in their hands.

07 Jan 2019 17:51:53
Hi Eds and fellow posters.

You may remember me promoting Football Index a couple of times over the past 18 months. Just a heads up that they are going to do a share/ split at some point before April. Last time they did it 2 years ago, the price of players rocketed shortly after and a fortune was made by those that had got in before the split.

So if anybody is interested I'd take a look at the website. You basically buy a share in any one of thousands of players, they then can earn you dividends for performance or media pull for up to 3 years (you can sell at any time) and you can earn dividends every day if you build a portfolio. They also have an offer for new accounts where you can get your money back for 30 days and if you buy a player for the first 30 days they qualify for goal and assist bonus payments as well.

I've made good money for the past 3 years and they have doubled in size last year. Anybody interested there are a few tutorials online - but if you like a bet or investing and have football knowledge then it's almost impossible to lose with these offers at the moment. Good luck.

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07 Jan 2019 23:38:10
Sounds a bit like my cryptocurrency investments.

08 Jan 2019 10:38:54
These pay dividends mate and is about to grow, not rot. Have a look into it anyway if you like to make money from your football knowhow - safer than a bookies and makes games a lot more fun as you bet lasts for 3 years.

I think I last mentioned it about a year ago, if you put money into any top player then and left it until now you would have at least doubled your money.

08 Jan 2019 15:44:22
Worth a look - I do like a flutter.

Ps have doubled my cash on cryptocurrency too without having a clue as to what to do!

09 Jan 2019 14:21:44
Haha good man. Yeah it makes games a lot more enjoyable, anything you are unsure about let me know, try 'FIG Podcasts' for tutorials.

Honestly it's starting to take over my life, haha.

09 Jan 2019 17:51:21
Can you give us any tips beast? If just put 100 quid in. I've bought 5 shares in hazard, 9 shares in koulibaly and 1 share in lewandowski. Is this wise or do you go for the next up and coming players?

10 Jan 2019 08:57:44
Several ways to play it mate, it's a 3 year bet. I play for dividends, so it's more of an investment. Every day I wake up to money in my account because I have over 200 players in my portfolio. If you hold those players and don't trade often the rate of growth should mean I make dividends for 3 years and then be able to sell my shares for X2-X5 what I paid for them. This is certainly the case for the past 3 years and they are growing rapidly.

Those 3 players will rise in value and bring in regular dividends (Hazard won a bit last night as he was 3rd most talked about on the day in the media) .

There is a crush on young players at the moment, they are rising ridiculously. Thiago and Kimmich at Bayern are solid players for the scoring system, Kroos, Neymar and Messi (expensive) - this is why they are performing a split, to make it possible for people with small budgets to hold some of the superstars. I've punted on Bale, Dybala and Isco as they rise shed-loads on transfer stories etc and their prices have dropped a lot recently, so represent good value. Good luck and hope this helps.

10 Jan 2019 13:05:35
Cheers mate.

 


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