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16 Feb 2018 15:31:49
Hi eds, is there any truth in the reports from turkey yesterday that fellaini has agreed a deal with fenerbece and signed a pre contract?

ken

{Ed002's Note - I obviously have no idea about any reports in Turkey. I have explained for some months been explaining the situation and discussions that have been going on with Besiktas. If he has agreec a pre-contract with Fenerbahce I am afraid I am not the one to ask. I can't answer any questions about "what do you think of reports ..." Ken.}


1.) 16 Feb 2018 16:35:33
It was Besiktas, today he has been linked to Galatasaray. We will see.

Ed002 has been saying long ago Fellaini wanted out last Summer, and it was Mou who intervened.


2.) 16 Feb 2018 16:17:14
The reports were Besiktas.

{Ed002's Note - That makes sense then. It is where I expect him to go.}


3.) 16 Feb 2018 16:19:32
Sorry ed my bad. i should have worded that differently.
Thanks.
Its obviously a false report.
Jose is obviously keen for him to stay but perhaps more regular game time is what he is after at this stage of his career.


4.) 17 Feb 2018 11:22:21
He needs to go. If he wants regular game time he has to go. If he stats he's just a bit part player and plan b. Frankly given the wages and his age its better he goes.


 

 

17 Jan 2018 22:35:52
Ed is there anybody interested in signing blind this window?

ken

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any approach to MU.}


1.) 18 Jan 2018 09:34:53
I didn't see that coming. Lol.


 

 

12 Jan 2018 23:35:13
If any of The eds are around,
Do you know if this is a completely optimistic attempt or has sanchez always been a target.? There has been no serious links with him since his days In italy.

ken

{Ed002's Note - it is simply a case of him being seen as a potential option.}


1.) 13 Jan 2018 08:07:10
Of course he is an option. He would have been looked at by all major clubs, the same as Ozil, because how many times does a player in his prime in the elite category of his role become available for such deflated cost or potentially for free.

Real, Bayern, Juve and co would also have discussed Alexis but maybe have decided to step back or not register offical interest for whatever reasons. He is a world class player, doesn’t make many stupid media appearances, doesn’t dab, doesn’t get injured too frequently and is passionate about the game.

If ever there was a player to sign it is Sanchez.


2.) 13 Jan 2018 00:07:36
Thanks ed. Personally I feel its still a long shot as his mind was probably set on a city move for months now. Perhaps what we can offer is better for arsenal so if his heart is set on city he will sit tight until June.
Perhaps we can sell him our club and the opportunity to achieve legendary status by helping us become champions again. Oh and pay him more😂.


3.) 13 Jan 2018 02:00:54
Hi Ed, is he seen as a potential option to Greizman with him seemingly off to Barcelona?

{Ed002's Note - I would not try to complicate matters.}


4.) 13 Jan 2018 09:53:06
Over the last three seasons Pogba and Sanchez have both spent 3 months on the sidelines injured, and am I'm not sure the Arsenal fans would agree with you regarding stupid media appearances. But cut lips and a slight sniffle aside you are right Maze, Sanchez doesn't dab, he sulks because he didn't get his move in the summer and causes well documented dress room bust ups.


5.) 13 Jan 2018 10:15:49
No doubting Sanchez ability, but if rumours/ reports are correct with his replacement at Arsenal being Malcolm, would like a punt on him instead: cheaper wages by far, longer service, right winger as opposed to AS and hopefully less disruptive. I think he could be a better long term fit and not hinder martial/ rashfords progress.

{Ed002's Note - Malcom would be a Walcott replacement, not a Sanchez replacement.}


6.) 13 Jan 2018 11:22:40
Malcolm looks a talent Cookyman but I disagree as we do not need another player with 'potential' seeing as though we have martial, rashford, lingard and even andreas pereira on our books who are young players with 'potential'. We need a finished article who performs consistently at the top level. We have far too many young inconsistent players and when they are all having an off day we have nobody who can step up and take the game by the scruff of its neck. Sanchez is perfect for us and personally I think we are a better fit for him than city. He will be the main man and be one of the first names on the team sheet. And if he gets the number 7 shirt, then he will be one of the most marketable players in the world. Personally, think he is city bound but it is very quiet from his end, city's end and our end. Seems everyone has their poker faces on.


7.) 13 Jan 2018 11:40:29
I hope the line "Perhaps we can sell him our club", Ken was a joke?


8.) 13 Jan 2018 12:08:06
Why fzz its not the only show in town?


9.) 13 Jan 2018 13:20:19
Ken this is not like little school girls trying to sell brownies to raise funds for field trips. This is Manchester United one of the most recognised sporting institutions in the world.

What is exactly are United trying to sell him? They offer what they can and what they believe is reasonable, that is all. There is nothing to sell, you have watched too many episodes of only fools and horses, Maze suggests maybe it is time to try a different show?


10.) 13 Jan 2018 13:32:48
I shouldn't need to answer mate.


11.) 13 Jan 2018 14:37:09
Park - totally understand the potential reason you state but do we need a player whose heart isn't in it : another di Maria? I don't think so but we've still got 18 days left. lol

Ed002- sorry when I stated replacement, I was referring to a shiny new player to appease the fans as opposed to playing position:)

{Ed002's Note - Arsenal are looking to someone else to replace Sanchez.}


12.) 13 Jan 2018 14:38:57
Maybe how we plan on dominating the EPL again at some point, and convince him he can fulfil his ambition of winning the league here? We have finished top 4 once in 4 seasons!


13.) 13 Jan 2018 15:33:01
Would it be lemar?


14.) 13 Jan 2018 19:18:24
Correct stand. Players if his calibre gave options of lots of clubs with great history and tradition as well as the ' new money ' clubs like city and psg who are attracting some of the world's best. So yes we do need to convice him we are a better option than any of the other great options available. Its not all about offer him what you can financially or he would be off to China.


 

 

10 Jan 2018 21:28:14
Looks like Dimitri Mitchell is going on loan to hearts. Best of luck to him.

ken

1.) 10 Jan 2018 22:07:03
Looks a good player, hope he comes back and gets a chance, good luck to the lad.


2.) 10 Jan 2018 23:10:25
Why on earth to a third rate league? Really don't get that at all. Would be better off in the championship.

{Ed007's Note -

via GIPHY


3.) 11 Jan 2018 06:23:48
Good move. I’d rather see more players go to Scotland than the Championship. The Scottish league is underrated for teaching kids maturity and giving them physical and mental toughness.


4.) 11 Jan 2018 13:58:50
A whole lot better than u23 that's for sure.


 

 

28 Nov 2017 18:53:35
Good thread below on the merits of selling Martial or not.
To be honest I thought jose would sell him and he was open to that as per ed002.
I wanted him to go on loan this season in the hope that playing every week at a high level la liga or serie a that he would come back a more rounded experienced player.

I think he has only started 3 league games this season and like all young players he has been inconsistent . He has done well in cl and league cup and off the bench I the league but is that enough to bring him on quickly enough.
He imo is one of the best close control dribblers in world football. He oozes talent but because of his demeanour he looks lazy at times and lacks intensity concentration and focus at times during matches.

Playing weekly his movement and decision making will improve dramatically ( this is what infuriates me when watching him) . This is where I think jose has a dilemma. Because rashford is in the exact same position.

We have 2 great young talents. But while they are learning and developing they will have as many unproductive games as productive couple that with our requirement to compete in the top comps its hard to develop both at the same time and give them enough starts and doubly difficult when they ideally want to play In the same position.

When both play together if they are both on an off day we look toothless but hot when they are on form we look hot but to be honest that's 50/ 50.
Time will tell but i don't see us developing both.

ken

1.) 28 Nov 2017 19:52:06
Let's be honest developing kids isn't Jose strong point .
Jose has a lot of good traits but that's not one of them .
Tonight is the 11th game martial has started this season with another 8 from the bench .
Lads still only 21 so not doing to bad.


2.) 28 Nov 2017 22:34:12
Nice goal too.


3.) 29 Nov 2017 09:46:08
Martial is on a different planet to Rashford. He has speed, control, sange-froide and great vision. Rashford has speed. But is otherwise a car crash.


4.) 29 Nov 2017 12:50:18
I like rash but martial is a step up imo .
Can't believe people are talking about selling a young talented player like this.
Or saying he will never be a top player or has a poor attitude.

The lad is 21 still has a lot to learn but has absolute bags of talent.


5.) 29 Nov 2017 14:01:06
You really don't rate him that highly Ken do you?

I know he can be inconsistent, I'm going to put that down to age but even on a bad day, he is genuinely one of our only players that has the ability to go past a man and do something incredible. I think we would suffer offensively if he were to be sold or sent out on loan.

He of course needs to iron out the inconsistencies but for me he has to be kept, he is in that bracket of top top players (right jred) I understand now lol, and every young player has inconsitent spells. Just look at Raheem Sterling.


6.) 29 Nov 2017 15:16:58
I think Rashford. Is going backwards in his development. Is it because he is regular in the first team now and feels that's it
I've made it.
And please could we have lukaku playing in Velcro kit, the ball might stick to him then, He has been woeful of late.
Good display by lindelof tho.
Rock the red.


7.) 29 Nov 2017 17:11:28
Angle
Lol.
Martial looks a talent looks a threat and season looks up for it .

For his age and position I don't see much better out there .
You have to give these young lads a chance .
To be fair to Jose he has so this season with martial.
Looks better playing striker as well, that's where the lad himself wants to play .


8.) 29 Nov 2017 19:54:11
Why sell a player for £80 mil that would cost us £150mil to get close to replacing him?


9.) 29 Nov 2017 21:39:48
Please lay off Rashford as he is a young kid and will have ups and downs. Also he is under a lot of pressure knowing he has Martial Lukaku and Ibra fir competition in his preferred role as central striker. His end product is generally very good. Cut him some slack.


10.) 30 Nov 2017 09:14:55
The problem is that Jose appears under pressure to always play Rashford as he is being positioned as a locally grown brand. He is not technically good enough to make it. Won't be best option is to take advantage of the elevated pricing for young stars and sell him now, focusing on Martial.


11.) 30 Nov 2017 11:10:51
Angel. I do rate him. I've said above and have always said that he has a dribbling talent that is nearly unrivalled. I never advocated selling him although I thought jose would sell him because he is not know for his patience with young players.
I think the issue is we have 2 players that play I the same position so it would be difficult to get them both enough game time to develop both quickly enough from the club's point if view but akso from their point of view. Martial will only improve with experience like all young players. I thought he would struggle for game time under jose like 40 starts and if he does get 40 starts rash won't so it will be difficult to get both up to speed and keep them happy.


12.) 30 Nov 2017 11:54:19
Ken
You argued with me last season he would never be a top player .
Round about the time you where posting Jose would sell him .
Coincidence?


13.) 30 Nov 2017 20:16:20
Jred you have a more select memory than Boris Johnson.
You argued that cattermole was as good as matic.
Jose was open to selling him as we know.
I have been 100% consistent on martial. He is getting more game time than I thought he would and has done very well this season in some games and has as the manner said improved both his play and his application so fair play to him it's paying dividends for him and the team.

Fair play to the manger for getting more out of him and fair play to the player who by his own admission was not concentrating fully on his game last year.


14.) 30 Nov 2017 21:42:59
Ken
Of course you have Ken, can't imagine why anyone would think differently .

Bags of talent will be a top player imo.


15.) 30 Nov 2017 21:58:17
Matic cattermole doh . Lol like I've had to say before I was pretty drunk the one time I posted that .
I was trying to make a very drunken point . Badly .


16.) 30 Nov 2017 22:44:14
Phones laptops tablets and guns. should never be in the possession of a drunken man lol xx.


17.) 01 Dec 2017 08:41:50
To he fair it's not like i went on about it for a full season.


18.) 02 Dec 2017 03:33:32
Both are young and run into blind alleys, time is the only cure.


 

 

 

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15 Feb 2018 22:27:41
Looking ahead to midweek and champions league game how did you think jose will approach the game.
Personally i think he will put in a 3rd midfielder and play sanchez left lukaku and mata on the right maybe jessie.
Its an away game and even though thier form is patchy they have a new manager and won't be easy opponents.
A win at the weekend would be a great way to go into this match.

ken

1.) 15 Feb 2018 22:36:35
Defensive, he will set up the team t not concede a goal and play counter attack. that's how we play.


2.) 16 Feb 2018 09:51:18
4141 with Pogba as the holding midfielder. Smalling in defence.


3.) 16 Feb 2018 11:56:00
Reman,

Not sure we play counter attack generally, maybe in the big games but that is the right way to play in them. We are organised but mainly control most of the possession in a game, it is just whether we can step up, hopefully the Newcastle result was the kick up the arse they needed to kick on now, the players are good enough they just need to show it.


4.) 16 Feb 2018 16:32:14
GDS, what game do we play? What are our tactics? We seem to put 10 people behind the ball, play slow ponderous football, allow teams to have a go, not press the ball and never get out of 2nd gear.
But do we have a style of play? Do the players know what they're being asked to do? Not in a million years.
So we'll go out, try to defend and see what happens.


 

 

13 Feb 2018 11:31:47
Around 10 years ago we played in 3 cl finals in 4 years.

But stalworths like rio and vidic have been replaced by jones and smalling.

Scholes and carrick by fellaini and herrera.

Neville . / rafael / evra by the likes of young and valencia and shaw.

Ronaldo tevez rooney by martial lukaku and mata.

Anyone still unsure we have a great squad?

Standards have been dropping for years guys.

ken

1.) 13 Feb 2018 13:35:04
Ken,

Whilst some of the players you mention have been replaced by players now deemed not up to the standard of the previous ones some of it has not been for the want of trying. Some of the players mentioned are young and have massive potential - Martial for example. Ronaldo when he left was the Ballon D'or but when he signed was a talented but promising teen the same way that Shaw and Martial are.

I fully agree that the current team is not to the same standard as the one from 2007-2009, but at that point we were one of the best teams in Europe with one of the games all time greatest managers. Its a standard the club should aspire to reach again, but the club is showing the signs of trying to get there. Bar Tevez, from the players you mention above all were given the time to grow into the Club and become great players whether promoted from the youth system or bought in.

Modern day football is blighted by short termism. Yes we are behind City at the moment and the football being played is at best good but inconsistent and at worst disinteresting, but knee jerk reactions and chopping and changing everything might not prove any better.


2.) 13 Feb 2018 13:44:53
That's just stupid.

Rio and Vidic have been replaced by Bailey and Lindihop (one excellent defender and one with a lot to prove)

Scholes and Carrick - Pogba and Matic (most expensive cm on the planet and a proven EPL winner.

Rooney Tevez Ronaldo - Sanchez Lukaku Martial (perhaps not the same league, but a potentially top class attacking trio by any standards) .

We have some top class players, but the performances aren't where they should be. However, making false equivalences to previous teams is just a bit sad.


3.) 13 Feb 2018 13:58:07
Danny,

Have to agree, the first thing I saw when I read this was Herrera and Fellaini replacing Scholes and Carrick and just wondered who the 2 players were that were better than Scholes and Carrick back then as we have 2 midfielders better than Herrera and Fellaini now.

Weird comparisons to be honest Ken, I get what the narrative is but the points to back it up are way off.


4.) 13 Feb 2018 14:52:49
Sorry ken disagree with that. As Danny has stated above we haven’t got as bad a squad as everyone thinks. Granted that 08 team was one of the best this league has seen, we have some very good talent at our disposal now. But Jose is not getting enough out of them. I agree with the narrative we are not at the level we should be. But I disagree that this squad is not very good.


5.) 13 Feb 2018 14:54:44
Pogba replaced fellaini essentially but fellaini replaced scholes in the squad and herrera really replaced carrick and matic replaced herrera idnt see your point gds. jones and smsllung eere brought into replace rio and vidic yeah?
Im assuming you agree on tje full backs.
On the forwards i'm saying what's here now v then thete have been too many inbetween.
The club has seen the mistakes of bringing in fellaini and herrera to replace dcholes and carrick so bought better in pogba and matic and yes now we are 2nd so its improving.


6.) 13 Feb 2018 14:46:44
Hi becks. I agree with a lot of what you say there.
But kneejerk? This will be 5 seasons without a title challenge.
5 years of poor football.
Smalling and jones have been here for 7 seasons and as they play more often our position gets worse.

Fellaini is a great professional and gives his all but in 5 seasons his presence has not improved the team blind the same for 4 seasons darmian 3 rojo 4 there is no knee jerk reactions there.
Valencia and young are 33 its hardly a knee jerk reaction to be looking at replacements.

I would keep shaw herrera and martial but bring in top quality players for them to compete against and let the best men win.
Its a squad game and imo we have too many players that i would consider squad players or 2nd choice players starting every week or more often than not.
We also need our best centre back back fit and our big players pogba lukaku and sanchez to play at a higher level on a regular basis.
The team lacks a leader imo. A player that sets the standards and insists on those around him that they come up to those standards.
Its ok developing youth but they have got to have players ahead of them to learn from.

For example in the juve dressimg room pogba had chillini pirlo buffon and the likes to keep him straight.
Rooney and ronaldo had rio keane scholes neville etc
Winners that rooney and co all followed and wanted to win more than them.
We lack quality and winners and most importantly winning or big club mentality and experience in our squad. Matic and sanchez bring that we need a couple more.
If we want to get the best out of pogba lukaku bailly lindelof shaw jessie gomez tuanzabe, mctominay rash martial who are all under 24 and not yet mature enough to be the 'leaders of the team but have all got the potential to grow into leaders, we need to surround them with 4 or 5 more players of the level of sanhez matic ddg mata.

Not surround them with the likes of darmian blind jones smalling fellaini and rojo.
The under 24 brigade i mentioned above all 12 of them have lots of talent. Many of them cost a lot of money. But they are not yet ready to be the backbone of the team imo. They need ecperience around them top class experience.
Honestly its not all doom and gloom.
We have those 12 plus ddg romero valencia matic sanchez mata
A top cb to compliment bailly lindelof jones tuanzabe
A solid matic understudy
A top rb to replace toni
A top cm to compliment pogba
A top rw to compete with mata.
A top lb to compete with shaw.
players linked to us that i think fit the bill.
Cb varane.
Matic understudy and rb fabhino
Cm. Kroos / jorgihno/ savic
Rw bale
Lb sandro / rose / tierny
Release on free fellaini young carrick
Sell darmian blind smalling and rojo

None of that is knee jerk becks its all based on what I've seen in last 5 years mate. Just my opinion. Its not a major overhaul. The base is quite solid just think the squad needs some under pinning.
The most important thing is to sell those dragging the levels down. Get them out keep carrick as a coach but get a few proper senior pros in. I think it likely you will see less snap chat and more snap crackle pop.


7.) 13 Feb 2018 15:37:52
Park name me our good defenders.
Name me our good midfielders.
Now for me good is if you need them to play 20 plus games we still can win the league.


8.) 13 Feb 2018 15:44:51
Vidic and Evra both took a year to grow into the team, and as much as Vidic is praised, and for good reason, against some of the best teams/ players he was shown wanting. How many times did he get red carded against Liverpool? Besides which I'd rate Valencia as an improvement on Rafael, and Shaw is still re-emerging after an horrific injury and has the potential to be every bit as good as Evra.

You mention Scholes and Carrick but not Darren Fletcher? Scholes was brilliant but he was the last of his kind, a lifer who started out in the academy and stayed with the club until retirement. The other two were excellent players but it was not their brilliance or otherwise that was relevant so much as the way they fit into a team, and the heart they gave to it. Arguably Matic, Pogba and one new midfielder next year could be the equal of them. And as for the forwards, I think we might have an excellent group in Martial, Sanchez, Lukaku, and Rashford, although, as yet, they do not seem to be in sync. It's kind of understandable given the recent addition of Sanchez and the poor form of Pogba behind the forwards. So, yes, they have yet to prove themselves. Do we have a Christiano level player? No.


9.) 13 Feb 2018 16:01:08
Rio and vidic have been replaced by bailly and maybe lindelof and most likely another cb coming in summer.

Scholes and carrick have been replaced by Matic and Pogba. Its fletcher and anderson who have been replaced by herrera and fellaini.

rafael was never actually better than valencia has been only had potential to and given he never fulfilled it its a moot point.

Ronaldo is a once in a generation talent you don't find those every other season, the others you have listed can easily be replaced by the players replace by the players in our squad today.

Its funny you mention standards dropping while conspicuously failing to mention any of pogba, matic, ddg or sanchez.


10.) 13 Feb 2018 15:54:36
Attacking wise I think we are ok ken. Bailly is a good defender just struggles to keep fit. Jones and smalling are not good enough I agree. Lindelof has potential and j wouldn’t right him off yet. But I would be playing him in every game till the end of the season so that he can get used to the rigours of the league. Rojo is a decent understudy and Tuanzebe is immensely talented. We could do with one more top quality cbs. But let’s be honest how many defenders out there come close to Vidic and Rio? Those two were the best you could get and I ask you to name me 5 defenders that on their level currently in world foootball? I think you would struggle as there is a serious lack of quality. And if you could name 5, how attainable are they?

I agree we need another quality right back and a left back to compete with shaw. In midfield, Herrera matic pogba are good enough but we need two top quality additions. I would re integrate Fosu Mensah and pereira in midfield and I think they both would have made a big impact if they stayed this year.

Attack wise we are well stocked. I agree a rw would be a much needed addition so that we can utilise lukaku’s heading qualities in the box. But apart from that I would trust what we have got. Jose needs to find a solution and get the forwards working because we can keep throwing money at the forwards. It is clear that the tactics aren’t right and that’s what Jose gets the big bucks for.


11.) 13 Feb 2018 15:55:10
Bottom line is that we are miles behind the top team not just here but also abroad. We were not so behind years ago and bear in mind just how much we have spent already in the past few years. We should be much much closer to City for a start. The Utd teams of 1999 and 2008 were miles better than what we have now. For a start they were teams. Not a group of individuals who still have no recognisable consistentplaying pattern. Also those teams were full of leaders. Sorry guys but we are miles away from where we need to be. How many of this current team would be guaranteed a start in the teams of 1999 and 20008? That tells you how far we have fallen. The results this season prove it.


12.) 13 Feb 2018 17:01:53
Csm. When scholes retired we bough 1 midfielder. Fellaini. Fellaini replaced scholes in the squad. That is a fact.
Fergi bought jones and smallung as replacements for rio and vidic as per his autobiography. The fact is we have since purchaed players to replace tbose original replacements.


13.) 13 Feb 2018 17:05:06
So park you agree 5 new player's and to get rid of smalling blind fellaini darmian you would keep rojo not jones. You agree we need 2 moee full backs 2 midfielders and a rw. So what exactly do you disagree with?
You say its a good squad then go on to say 25% of it needs changing. ergo its not a good squad. Finished 4th or below 4 years on the bounce is not a good squad.


14.) 13 Feb 2018 17:10:23
Your right hedon. Anybody who argues otherwise is sadly mistaken biased or blind.


15.) 13 Feb 2018 17:53:33
Them players we are talking about from before this bunch of heartless players would have ate their way through Newcastle on sunday.


16.) 13 Feb 2018 18:36:56
Lol
Don't forget the 2011 cl final . won the league that year .
Fabio and evra fb.
Carrick and Giggs cm.
Tony park out wide.
Chicarito up top .


17.) 13 Feb 2018 18:54:55
Spot on leahy.


18.) 13 Feb 2018 19:04:57
Or the 2009 final
Park Giggs Anderson Carrick in midfield .
J oshea right back.


19.) 13 Feb 2018 19:06:35
Leahy
Yep them players never lost a single game . summers never ended and you could buy 5 pints and a pickled egg for a fiver .


20.) 13 Feb 2018 19:38:20
Personally I can’t believe we replaced Best with Ralph Milne, and Charlton with Tom Cleverly, it a disgrace.


21.) 13 Feb 2018 19:57:07
No jred your right I suppose the wouldn't beat a bad Newcastle team. lol.


22.) 13 Feb 2018 20:06:26
Leahy

We lost some silly games as well pal .


23.) 13 Feb 2018 20:16:46
Well done jred 2 great examples of teams that help my point teams with good experieced pros proven winners time and again, players that learned how to win and knew how to win. Not fancy names but teams with carrick giggs park o shea rooney evra rio vidic ( how many medals have that lot between them) sprinkled with young potetial players like nani anderson fabio and the likes.
But now we have young players better than anderson fabio rafeal etc here but not enough proven winners ddg matic sanchez mata toni is not enough. Pogba is not mature enogh yet.
Those teams you mentioned don't look right or fancy but they knew how to win and played under a great and succesful manager. The football was often poor at that time too. But wins and results kept coming. The legs ran out for the snr pros and tbose brought in to replace them are now snr pros at our club but they have little or no pedigree. Blind darmian rojo fellaini young smalling jones are now the longest serving snr pros at our club. Jeez not much they can pass on to the talented crop we have.
Despite his 30m price tag shaw is far from the finished article same for bailly lindelof.
Despite his 87m price tag and obvious talent pogba is also not the finished article.
Likewise lukaku martial rashford.
They all have great potential and need some good proven winners around them.


24.) 13 Feb 2018 20:19:36
Jred I was talking about Newcastle. And the other day you said the table doesn't lie. Where were Newcastle before they got 3 points off us.


25.) 13 Feb 2018 20:26:17
Lol now we need Giggs in cm 🤣🤣🤣🤣.


26.) 13 Feb 2018 20:24:30
Leahy we have been better than newcastle this season we are a better team than newcastle .
The table shows that .
Even great teams lose games .

You must get your football coupon up every week?
Ken your killing me pal on this page and the other .


27.) 13 Feb 2018 20:26:17
Lol now we need Giggs in cm 🤣🤣🤣🤣.


28.) 14 Feb 2018 14:26:47
I do agree with some parts of your OP Ken, I think the knee jerk reaction part (in my view) was with the post coinciding to a disappointing result against Newcastle.

I agree there are some players that need to pursue careers elsewhere - Smalling, Fellani (on the basis he looks unlikely to renew his contract) Zlatan, Darmian and maybe Blind, Rojo and Romero - the latter 3 more to get regular football.

I do think the squad is maybe 3/ 4 players away from being able to win the league and champions league especially when the young players like Gomes etc are considered. If in the summer the club sign a top class midfielder like a SMS, Weigel, Veratti, Jorgino to dovetail with Pogba and Matic, plus a CB and RB then think we're set.


 

 

13 Feb 2018 11:28:29
{Ed's Note - ken has posted a new article entitled, A view of the current Manchester United squad without the red tinted glasses on.

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1.) 13 Feb 2018 12:27:12
Good post kinky ken.


2.) 13 Feb 2018 12:40:56
Leahy it annoys me a little when people say tbis is a good squad. what have they achieved to warrant tje title of a good squad.
Jones here nearly 8 seasons and only played 40 games once. Only more than 20 in the league twice never over 30 in the league
Smalling the 2 seasons he made most appearances we finished 5th and 6th.
Both have league medals but mafe fewer than 16 appearances those seasons.
They are not good squad players. Nor are darmian or blind or fellaini jeez we have not finished higher than 4th since he signed he had started 2 league games this seadon and we could be 2nd. Blind only started a couple darmian too so maybe that's why the upturn in league positiin.
We have some good players but there is a bunch there dragging the rest down turning this into a poor squad. too many average joes.
Many thought adnan was next big thing. Ditto welbeck ditto cleverly ditto martial.


3.) 13 Feb 2018 12:50:35
Good article. But don't agree with Martial who i believe will be a top player and can't believe you are comparing him to Adnan, welbs or cleverly.

Thos players grew up in manchester and messed therr chances and Martial is a player from another league who had a lot going on last year.

Give him a chance and he will be fine but it might not be here with Mourinho.


4.) 13 Feb 2018 13:01:48
Singh. I respect your view. I think he has magic in his feet but rocks for brains.
He may well go on to have a great carreer but i just don't see it myself.
Things can change the penny might drop i hope it does but i can't see it being at united. Happy to be proved wrong on this one tbh.


5.) 13 Feb 2018 13:05:50
Agree with everything. good post. Martial and rashford seem to look good because of just how average our squad has been. Both definitely have huge potential and will have to step up quickly or their time will run out soon with the likes of sanchez coming in.


6.) 13 Feb 2018 13:17:18
Good posts Ken 👍👏.


7.) 13 Feb 2018 13:43:09
Totally agree Ken.


8.) 13 Feb 2018 15:13:15
Danny ehen scholes retired for the 2nd time who replaved him in the squad? Fellaini

When herrera signed who did he knock out of the sude originally? Carrick

Who were bought replace vidic and rio? . Smalling and jones. that's in fergies autobiography.

The fowrads are what's here now v then. I could have included sancez but he is only in the door.


9.) 13 Feb 2018 16:46:51
Ken, agree with most of what you say but you mention Rashford/ martial ect as potential and won nothing yet but people are speaking of city as one of potentially the prems best ever teams ( personally disagree been others as good), just watch if you put those players up for sale how much interest there would be.


10.) 13 Feb 2018 16:58:50
Smooth i would keep both rash and martial.


11.) 13 Feb 2018 17:11:53
The "without red tinted glasses" part of the title made me laugh.


12.) 13 Feb 2018 17:52:48
Sepp😁 its hard to be totally objective. We have 12 really good young players in or around the squad all 24 or younger. Most of them will be the backbone of the squad for years to come but in my opinion we need 3 or 4 more players with the quality of ddg matic sanchez to help bring on this great core group.


13.) 13 Feb 2018 18:01:58
I agree with u on a lot of that ken, as with others not the martial bit, in games where we sit bk and look to hit on the break I'd play him upfront central .
There are a few treading water now blind darmian and others . Centre back does concern me a bit despite our numbers JM can see smallings shortcomings but he sees them train everyday and it appears rates him above lindlehof which isn't a glowing endorsement for lindlehof.
Many areas could still do with improving which is pretty unbelievable considering the outlay in recent years, you make a good case for fullbacks and still a right sided attacker if Sanchez isn't to be used there.
Midfield though will surely have to be dealt with first though if Carrick, Fellini, and maybe Herrera leave, I don't get all the tfm and Pereira optimism personally but hope I'm wrong .


14.) 13 Feb 2018 20:42:54
Ken by that logic Valencia replaced Ronaldo do we include that too. Fact is you want to paint a picture and are twisting facts to suit your argument, who they were bought to replace is an argument for when they were bought not for today when they clearly aren't seen as first choice for those positions.


15.) 13 Feb 2018 21:33:53
Correct csm they were bought to replace them but were miles below the level required and have all had plenty of time and don't look like tbey can most are just squad players and as you say have been replaced in the first 11. Our stadards slipped for 3 5 or 6 years w jose won't fix it overnight. He has 6 of his own signings left excluding ibra. But it was more than 6 players needed when he got here the squad was a mess in all honesty.


 

 

31 Jan 2018 23:04:35
Sorry mata is often the link between midfield and attack.
Tough decisions for him but I expect a response at the weekend.

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31 Jan 2018 23:03:04
That was a tough watch I went in hoping right to the end hoping we could nick 1 and they might collapse but we got well and truly battered.
With the exception of ddg possibly lukaku and sanchez had their worst game of the season.
Obviously with the line up he went to attack and that all went out the window after 10 seconds .
Spurs were st home in a must win game and were up for it and we were beaten and bullied all over the pitch.
Martial had one of his beginner days.
Smalling was obviously drunk.
Jones who somehow normally makes himself look good by recovering from his own mistakes had a shocker.
Matic was Annonaymus
Pogba looked unfit from the begging for some reason
I though sanchez was good but played too deep in last 20 mins
Lukaku was not too bad and was always trying
Jessie not in the game after 20 mins.
Young worst show of season I thought shaw deserved to start
Fellaini obviously hurt.
Mata should have started imo he has been very good lately and is often the glue that moulds the.

ken

1.) 31 Jan 2018 23:12:56
Ken,

Like you say, was all lost in the first 10 seconds, Jose must be furious, spurs played very well and were never going to let us back in. Not the end of the world just annoying that we lose another big game, not a habit we want to be in but one we need to sort out quickly.


2.) 31 Jan 2018 23:23:32
Yeah i agree gds. Just so unusual to see every player so fast below par I the same game. Lack of leadership lack of urgency lack of technique lack of speed and composure.
I will predict the team now for Seville away. Ddg toni young lindelof Jones herrera matic pogba mata sanchez lukaku.


3.) 01 Feb 2018 06:39:02
Tough night that can happen away at spurs atm I suppose.

I honest thought after the 1st 5 min we would go on to win we looked great going forward but still a bit iffy at the back.

Once the 2nd went in we looked dead and proceeded to get worse for the rest of the game.

A very disappointing evening all in all.

Well played spurs though the looked very good .


4.) 01 Feb 2018 07:55:30
Not to throw all the players under the bus, but I think none of them turned out for the game last night. I think they either took it lightly, or just didn't recover from the goal that we conceded in the opening seconds.

I really think that Shaw should have started the game, he's looked solid in the last couple of games, and maybe he could have been good last night as well. Matic was a mere bystander, I think he will know that by his standards, this was probably the worst game he has had, in any shirt, let alone United.

As Ken pointed out, Martial looked like he was playing for the very first time at such a level, I'd expected him to make life slightly more difficult for Trippier, but that didn't happen.

Someone had suggested a couple of days back that with the arrival of Sanchez we could have a midfield of three, with Pogba playing slightly on the left and Herrera and Matic through the middle. I think that could have worked today. We could have had a front three of Lingard, Lukaku and Sanchez with the other three in the middle.

On a side note, Alli should have been sent off for the ridiculous tackle, this kind of behaviour and attitude might not be the best thing for him.


 

 

 

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16 Feb 2018 21:53:03
Maybe trying to get a game into him before seville match. We have missed him let's hope he has an injury free run from here on in.

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16 Feb 2018 16:19:32
Sorry ed my bad. i should have worded that differently.
Thanks.
Its obviously a false report.
Jose is obviously keen for him to stay but perhaps more regular game time is what he is after at this stage of his career.

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05 Feb 2018 21:33:35
I rate rashford myself. He is young and learning Kane was not in the sours team at his age. He has time on his side and he is still very early in his development. No way should he be sold nor will he be.
Martial is in the same boat. Slightly further in his development. Neither are consistent yet.

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05 Feb 2018 18:00:35
I would just like to say that just because somebody doesn't rate a player or want to see him in the team doesn't mean that he hates the player. That is a totally stupid thing to say.
I was accused of the same myself with Rooney. I don't hate the guy at all I just thought he didn't warrant a place in our squad and wanted him to be sold.
I don't hate martial but i don't see what many of you here see in him. only time will tell
Hatred is a really strong word and its totally ignorant to accuse somebody of hatred when it's not true. Particularly after lecturing posters on being biased against other coaches and players.

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31 Jan 2018 17:04:33
Cup tied.

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17 Feb 2018 14:27:11
Nearly half the squad was there with moyes.

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17 Feb 2018 12:47:39
Im judging them on what they deliver weekly jred.
You may be jappy with some players contributions and deem them to be good enough but under 3 managers over 5 years they have not been close to a title challenge and finished 4th at best 6th twice 5th once and this season will be hopefully 2nd.
5 years with no title challenge is not good enough. We are improving as better players join that's what i would expect but until we get 4 or 5 new players and release 6 or 7 we will not mount a title challenge.
Its not knee jerk reaction its 3 4 or 5 seasons the players have produced terrible league campaigns.

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17 Feb 2018 12:36:39
Spot on gds.

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17 Feb 2018 12:03:06
I see a less game time for martial not mata. But we will wait and see. Who else is using wingers as full backs in this new fad.

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17 Feb 2018 12:01:39
This squad will lose 6 or 7 players this summer then wet will have a proper squad.

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