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11 Dec 2018 07:29:06
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Review Of The Day 11th December 2018

11 Dec 2018 07:29:01
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And Finally.....The Good Old Days?

10 Dec 2018 16:46:21
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, And Finally.....The Good Old Days?

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10 Dec 2018 18:06:25
Worth the read!

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{Ed001's Note - thank you mate, glad you enjoyed.}

10 Dec 2018 18:37:19
Good read that Ed, but the last paragraph is so so true. Selfies should carry a custodial sentence. Even worse, bloody selfie sticks. Now they should result in severe corporal punishment by means of rectal insertion by said object.

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{Ed001's Note - the only thing a selfie stick is good for is beating the person attempting to use it.}

10 Dec 2018 20:40:16
Great read. Every generation is told by three preceding one 'it wasn't like that in our day'
I've said it to my own lads.
One of the biggest earners on you tube last year at £18m was a 7 year old doing toy reviews. The worlds gone mad.
By the way betty i'm with you on the selfie loons😂.

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10 Dec 2018 21:11:11
Great read, my gf wants yo take a selfie stick on our first holiday.

I have a feeling it will break during the flight.

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11 Dec 2018 01:00:41
Great article Ed. Am sure this was inspired from your catch up with your parents 😉. Makes me miss my late father and the times he was around epitomizing the meaning of “good old days” for me. There were tough times but good and great always follow after that.
And yes I agree with all on the selfie stick. Have yet to own nor use one and probably won’t ever.

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{Ed001's Note - they are not here until tomorrow morning mate. I like your interpretation of 'the good old days'. And thank you, glad you enjoyed.}

10 Dec 2018 14:30:08
Just to expand on the earlier post about Axel Tuanzebe. As we have number of 'squad' players who are either not playing or who would you replace and add to the first team squad for 2019/ 20 season.

Smallling - Tuanzebe
Valencia - TFM
Young - Mitchell
Matic/ Fellaini - Pereria
Sanchez - Gomes (Martial to start)

I would also add Chong and Greenwood if they are ready.

Some great young players who supplemented with Elite level singings such as Koubalily would be decent. And kind of similar to what Poch did at Spurs. Maybe that's why there's interest?

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10 Dec 2018 15:36:44
Tbvh, Pereira doesn't have that physical attribute in his game which we need for a CDM, his best position is #10 and hence does not fit in Jose's system.

Mitchell can be a good backup option but would definitely not be my first choice Lb.

Also i would not rush any of the young academy lads in the squad, would loan them for a season or two.

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10 Dec 2018 16:42:56
At center back, I would love to see Smalling, Jones, and Rojo moved on, and bring in one proven veteran along with Tuanzebe. Young might stay, given his leadership and experience, to back up Shaw. I agree with Becks that Pereira might not be strong enough defensively for the CDM position in the PL. Sanchez gone will be a bonus by itself. Too mnay minutes taken from Rashford, Martial, Lingard, Mata, all of whom are better players now.

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10 Dec 2018 17:52:33
What do people see TFM's best position as?

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10 Dec 2018 18:09:17
I personally feel that gomes has little chance of making it in a mourinho team because of his height.

Same with chong unless he fills out and adds some muscle, don't think he has a chance under mourinho.

Greenwood however from what i've seen of him has both the technical and physical attributes to make it under any manager, whether that's at united or another club.

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10 Dec 2018 20:43:57
Hazzard deco duff robben di maria cole all excelled under jose.

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10 Dec 2018 07:16:37
The abuse directed at Raheem Sterling was appalling and the people responsible need banning and prosecuting. Sadly there are still morons who think that race, or religion, or sexuality is fair game for abuse.

Watch any match and see the general abuse that is directed at players. The ball goes out for a throw or a corner and an opposition player goes to take it. Faces contort with fury, bile is shouted at them, and the hand gestures start. This is mature adults screaming abuse at young men, very threatening behaviour that is very disturbing: outside a stadium it would be illegal but in a ground it seems anything goes. Football is a passionate game but things are regressing. The world seems an angrier place right now and I worry a fan will do something stupid. We’ve already had a couple of players assaulted in recent years and yet the abuse goes on. Is it any wonder no footballer has come out?

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{Ed0333's Note - wonderful and wise words my friend. Let’s hope footballing stadia is filled with people of your mindset in the not too distant future.

10 Dec 2018 08:00:23
I forgot to mention referees where Managers add fuel to the fire as well. At grass roots level referees are being assaulted regularly and I believe the example set at the top level plays a part (as well as societal issues) . Why on Earth would anyone want to be a referee nowadays?

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{Ed001's Note - it is sad but people take a game far too seriously. It is not just football though, it is all walks of life, people over react to nothing.}

10 Dec 2018 08:04:02
Seems to happen with most black players who are percieved to be flashy and not humble.

Similar sort of thing happening with the stick pogba gets but on a lesser scale.

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10 Dec 2018 09:28:53
DSG,

I agree it does, however, I was also trying to make a wider point about abuse generally inside grounds against opposition players, irrespective of the colour of their skin.

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10 Dec 2018 09:42:17
Well said tony, It’s totally unacceptable and I applaud sterling for standing up and speaking out. I’ve always thought he got such a rough ride by the media because of the colour of his skin. I hope something is done but call me a cynic because I don’t think this issue will ever be fully eradicated. There is always one of two Neanderthals who ruin it for the majority.

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10 Dec 2018 12:01:26
I agree with ed people are overreacting to everything now. christmas songs, eating animals everything. Now I have a true story that happened here in cork, hard to believe but it's true,
A young lad started school here in cork his name was Mohammad, anyway the teacher said your in Ireland now and your new name is Mike, fine said Mike and he went home and told his mother, his mother went mad, are you ashamed of your name, your family your religion and gave him a right few slaps, then his father gave him a few more slaps, he went to school bruised the next day, what happened you Mike the teacher asked,
Shortly after I became an Irishman I was attacked by two Arabs. 😀.

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10 Dec 2018 12:43:29
Nice one Mike Leahy 😉🤣.

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10 Dec 2018 18:08:49
Leahy, I'm assuming the irony is lost on you.

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10 Dec 2018 19:26:37
Ajh you can assume whatever you like.

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10 Dec 2018 21:06:03
I know how they feel, the Irish Catholic community in Glasgow have been discriminated against since we came here after The Famine.

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Review Of The Day 10th December 2018

10 Dec 2018 07:29:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 10th December 2018

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10 Dec 2018 07:48:02
Great read. Thanks ED001.

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{Ed001's Note - cheers mate.}

10 Dec 2018 07:54:37
ED001 have you seen Atlanta's stadium?

It looks very impressive, albeit an unusual design.

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{Ed001's Note - is that the one with the roof that open up by sliding back in small sections? Looks a bit like an pic of a sun when viewed from above?}

10 Dec 2018 08:31:56
Yea that's the one. Mercedes segments move apart to allow light inside.

Looks gloomy inside.

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{Ed001's Note - it does look a bit of a case of form over function. It is a tiny roof in comparison to the size of the stadium really.}

10 Dec 2018 10:01:07
As always Ed great review given you are busy with your parents. Thanks for the extra effort 👏👏.

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{Ed001's Note - cheers mate. It was nice to have enough to fill up a page on a Monday!}

10 Dec 2018 11:15:45
Ed001,

It's like a crushed tin can with a pitch inside.

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{Ed001's Note - that is a great analogy.}

10 Dec 2018 14:20:37
Braga stadium is my favourite.

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09 Dec 2018 19:34:53
Did anyone watch Tuanzebe against West brom?
If this guy was playing in some Dutch or German league we would've been ready to pay over the odds to get him.
Defensively he was solid and so calm in bringing the ball out of defence. Reminded me a bit of young Ferdinand.
He should definitely get in the squad next year imo.

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09 Dec 2018 20:22:13
He is known as the Rochdale Rio. He should be in the squad next season maybe even january if we could clear one or two out.

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10 Dec 2018 08:32:23
Always rated the lad. Really hope he makes it at Utd.

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10 Dec 2018 09:39:38
I would be happy to let Smalling, Rojo and Jones leave, then bring on one new CB and promote Tuanzebe.

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10 Dec 2018 10:11:25
Agreed Shappy, if we can move those 3 on, promote Tuanzebe and sign one I'd be happy. I'd prefer a more experienced top class centre back aged between 27-31 to guide Tuanzebe, Bailly and Lindelof on rather than sign another 22-25 year old.

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10 Dec 2018 17:42:57
Agree Mort. Isn't that exactly what Jose wanted, before Woodward imposed his veto on buying 'more experienced' players?

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09 Dec 2018 18:38:05
Just a quick question for you all, I don't know how many (if any of you) read the review of the day news round up I do each day, but on a Monday I used to do an 'And Finally. ' section on the end with footballing anecdotes based around a theme. After chatting with a group of people on the Liverpool site, they have requested I turn that into a separate longer article that I do regularly.

Anyway, for those that are interested in reading it, what kind of anecdotes would you be interested in:

Would you like it to just stick to football only?

Would you be interested in any sports-based anecdotes?

Or would you want it to also include slightly unrelated anecdotes as well? As in just something funny (well I hope it would be funny anyway! ) that came to mind.

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09 Dec 2018 20:39:27
Yep, I read that.

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09 Dec 2018 23:13:39
I'd read it, I like a bit of funny.

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{Ed0333's Note - Ed’s 001 is more tragic than funny mate.

09 Dec 2018 19:56:16
Great idea ed, always enjoy your daily reviews. I would be interested in hearing any sport anecdotes you may have.

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{Ed001's Note - ok thanks mate. That makes it easier for me, as there are only so many football anecdotes!}

09 Dec 2018 20:01:17
Would be nice to detract away from football, given our current situation Ed.

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{Ed001's Note - fair point, and that will be the same for other teams from time to time as well, so probably a good idea.}

09 Dec 2018 20:23:48
Mainly football for me, but I wouldn't mind seeing other sports if you need to pad it out. Or anything funny.

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{Ed001's Note - ok mate. I am thinking I will have to pad them out after a few weeks at the most!}

09 Dec 2018 21:03:49
Doesn't have to be sports based for me 001
I read them 1st thing most mornings so something funny or something we can share with others that sets us up for day.

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{Ed001's Note - ok thank you mate.}

09 Dec 2018 22:02:51
Open it up ed001, nice to have more than just 'football'

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{Ed001's Note - thank you angel, that does make it easier.}

09 Dec 2018 22:28:37
I read that too Ed and i wouldn't mind just reading any type of anecdotes as they are all worth the read.

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{Ed001's Note - ok thank you mate.}

10 Dec 2018 09:20:21
I read it regularly, if it won't be too much trouble then general sports anecdotes.

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{Ed001's Note - ok mate, I am putting together a quick sample article of one that would not stick too closely to the topic of sport, just to show people. I realised after posting the question that it is kind of vague without a reference point of what an open article would be. It would still start off as football or sports but it would just then go where it goes.}

Bournemouth v Liverpool - A Liverpool Perspective

09 Dec 2018 18:14:53
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09 Dec 2018 17:45:38
Shappy. Shappy. Shappy. Shapppy. anyone seen Shappy after the weekend's game?

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09 Dec 2018 18:00:21
Wow. One win against the bottom team, and we're calling out other posters for their honestly held opinions. Is this how far we've dropped? I see the old, 'judging managers/ players on a game by game basis' syndrome has reared it's ugly head again.

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09 Dec 2018 18:10:58
Yes Stevie, we are falling low cz we like to call it fair and square on how we see it. When we are poor and losing we call it as bad as it is. But there are a few who just have an agenda against you know who and they push it on the others. Shappy used to be a really objective poster but these days he only sees the poor in you know who. Remember Maze and how he used to disappear from the page after a win and would grace the page after a poor performance.

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09 Dec 2018 18:40:27
United Addict, just a quick question who do we credit the win against Fulham to? Jose or the players?

For every one person like me who puts most of the blame on the manager there is at least two more who puts most of the blame on the players or the board or the owners or pretty much anyone but the manager.

So as one of those who blames everyone but Jose, why did we win on Saturday. Did the board do a better job this week, or the players? And why?

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09 Dec 2018 19:27:19
As a side note, I am really happy with the result, and pretty happy with the performance. There was some great individual performances from Herrera, Mata, Rashford and Dalot, and it was a promising performance.

As for doom and gloom, what does this mean for Pogba? And we need to consider that it was against the worst side in the league so far this season.

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09 Dec 2018 19:53:16
Where's your agenda against Rashford after saturday's match, United Addict?

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10 Dec 2018 00:43:27
I was delighted to see us win but please let's put it in the right context. It was against the club bottom of our league who lots of concede goals almost every game. Of we can score and perform to the same hight level against our next ten opponents then maybe we can start to have true confidence that we have turned the corner. Until then let's hold our horses and wait and see how we do.

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10 Dec 2018 01:35:05
I agree tbh - yes the performance was a million times better than the last few weeks/ months, however like people have said, it was against the bottom club.
Let’s see if we are having this same convo on Sunday night after we’ve played the team currently at the top of the table.

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09 Dec 2018 10:54:19
Really enjoyed yesterday’s game. Best first half in a while. Of course we were playing the basement club but we have made a dogs dinner out of most of our games against lowly opposition this season.

I’ll be honest I saw the team and I wasn’t particularly enthused. But surprisingly front he off we pressed and harried the opposition. Herrera really sets the tone for us. He plays with such heart and passion every time he steps onto the pitch. He’s should be the first name on the team sheet and he should be captain for me.

Matic put in a better display. He’s been very poor for me but he looked far more positive and more energetic. On form he is a very good player, almost Carrick esque in some respect. We played further up the pitch and looked to impose our game on the opposition. Positive play translated into a positive result. What are the odds eh?

Juan mata. My favourite player at the club. An absolute you magnificently talented player, and even better human being. His movement, vision and creativity behind the striker was great at times. I honestly think we are a far better side with him playing, but it has to be centrally. Whenever he plays he always has an impact, and even when he does not he is the consummate professional. A few could learn from him. The Spanish contingent of Herrera, mata and De Gea have really bought into the history and traditions of the club. All three are shoe ins for me in our best starting XI.

Rashford is really hitting some form. I don’t get why he receives a lot of stick here because he is going to be a very special player. He’s a game changer for us. Direct, powerful and explosive. That’s 4 assists in the last 5 games I believe. He’s our top assist maker in the league with 5. Finishing can improve but it will come with time. Very good game and long may it continue. To lukaku’s credit he never stopped working. Some nice touches here and there and worked his socks off. 2 goals in 2 now for him. Hope he keeps his head down and gets his scoring boots on because we need him now more than ever.

But the biggest bonus for me yesterday was the impact of our full backs. They were both brilliant yesterday. A lot of us have been clamouring for an improvement in our full back areas so we can provide more width up the pitch to stretch teams. Dalot was brilliant. For such a young lad he has a great physique to match with technical ability. And finally we have someone that can cross. Early days, let’s not get ahead of ourselves. Still needs to improve positonally in defence but I want to see him as our first choice rb for the remainder of the season. Credit to young he was very good yesterday. Get shaw back in and we have an exciting full back pairing for years to come.

We look better without pogba. He doesn’t deserve to be in the starting XI. Personally, I’m done with him. I don’t like his attitude and for all his talents he has not lived up to his price tag. He doesn’t play the position properly. If he loses the ball he never tracks back. This is not a talent problem. This is an attitude and application problem. Any manager in the world would get frustrated at their star player not putting a shift in. There’s no guarantee if say Poch was to come in he would suddenly start working. Perhaps Fergie was right regarding his attitude problems. Fred was exciting when he came on. Glimpses of what he can do. I know he splits opinion on this site, but I like the look for him. You cannot judge him based on the game time he has played. I respect Ed001’s opinion on him but I would have to kindly disagree. Think there is a player there, but we need to find his best position. Wouldn’t mind seeing him next to Herrera and behind mata in a midfield 3.

We have a huge game against the scousers. They are high flying. We cannot lose this. This is more than just a game of football. It is pride. If there is any manager who can win any one off game it’s jose. I don’t care how we win it, just that we do.

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09 Dec 2018 11:55:51
This post is entirely delusional and only propped up by fantasy. We must cure ourselves of false prophets and their excesses. Herrera is OK but not much better than that. Mata is a likeable elf, but is not to be deployed in anger. Shaw is mechanical and creates nothing. Lukuku is a three-legged sack-race. Rashford is fast but reckless. Our hope likes in the classy Fred, rejuvenated Pogba, and Martial.

Our version of T. May, the hapless drone of a manager requires urgent defenestration.

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09 Dec 2018 12:27:45
Good post park.

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09 Dec 2018 16:58:52
Great post, Park.
Cheer up, Pliny.

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09 Dec 2018 17:24:33
Herrera is playing very well, he has always improved with game time. He, as you say should be our captain, not the worlds best midfielder, but very, very good with a world class attitude. So with this in mind I fully expect him to be dropped very soon.

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09 Dec 2018 20:45:20
Very good articulate post mate. I agree it was great to see the full backs more advanced and putting crosses into the box. Yesterday we played with genuine width and both full backs played liked wingers. If we can continue to put quality deliveries into the box this will benefit Lukaku and he'll become more of a goal threat once again.

As for Herrera we need him to bring energy and intensity to the midfield. Without him we are passive and pedestrian. He's not the most creative and is sometimes guilty of playing to many backwards and sideways passes but his role in the team is to put the opposition under pressure and try to win the ball back higher up the pitch. It's incumbent on the likes of Mata, Lingard, Martial, Sanchez and Rashford etc to be more creative and carry a goal threat. Having more advanced full backs providing the width and putting quality deliveries into the box for Lukaku will also help. We can only judge Herrera by the qualities to which he brings to the team and our expectations should be adjusted accordingly. I view Herrera as a facilitator, he provides a platform for the others to play and puts pressure on the opposition with his tenacity and energy. Liverpool's midfield is very workmanlike with the likes of Henderson, Milner and Wijnaldum none of which are any better than Herrera in my opinion. The key to our midfield is finding a balance which I think Jose is close to finding now. I think he's almost given up on Pogba and I expect him to persist with the Herrera/ Matic axis. I think Lingard's movement and energy is also important in the No10/ attacking midfielder role and Mata's quality on the ball links everything together nicely. With Dalot providing the width and pace on the right its no longer such an issue when Mata comes inside in search of the ball.

It is my belief that Pogba has provided Mourinho with perhaps his biggest challenge at Utd. I think he envisaged Pogba playing as part of a midfield 2 but his lack of positional discipline and his attitude to the game has surprised him. He's abandoned his favoured 4-2-3-1 in favour of a 4-3-3 to accommodate Pogba but an extra midfielder blunts our attack and Pogba's performances have been nowhere near consistent enough to justify a switch in formation. His influence in the dressing room has created a divide and their fractured relationship has had a detrimental effect on results as they have both postured for power. When Pogba was introduced against Arsenal the boos were audible and it would appear Jose is finally getting the upper hand in their battle. It's all such a terrible shame because they are both represent the most decorated employees at the Club and they should be pushing us towards the top and not away from it. In reality Pogba will eventually get his dream move and will recover because his talent is undeniable. As for Mourinho top 4 is looking incredibly difficult and I expect he will probably pay with his job. If Jose could somehow build on the Fulham performance, develop a recognised style of play with more energy and intensity in the team with attacking full backs providing the width and ammunition for Lukaku then with a string of good results behind him maybe he could save his job even without finishing in the top 4 if we can see progress. Sometimes we don't look that far away and with some consistency in formation and selection maybe we can look forward to a more productive New Year.

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