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20 Apr 2018 20:43:54
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20 Apr 2018 14:46:03
According to di marzio, romelu lukaku has changed his agent, no longer with mino raiola.

Any chance paul pogba will do the same?

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{Ed002's Note - None.}

20 Apr 2018 15:48:35
I read that, some agency that Jay-Z is involved with apparently.

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20 Apr 2018 16:34:44
Big mistake, whether you loathe of like raiola, his speed dial is like the keys to the candy store, this jay-z agency will want him involved in more promotional work, want to negotiate better imaging rights, his contract etc, i reckon jose will need a sponsorship deal with anadin and andrews this summertime, nice one romelu!

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20 Apr 2018 16:50:29
they probably think they are signing up Stormzy! personally feel united want to break all ties with Raiola.

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20 Apr 2018 18:21:31
Lukaku moving away from an agent renowned for persistently moving his clients from pillar to post is hopefully good news for us.

However, it could also provide an insight into other situations at the club. Mostly the one with Pogba.

Six months ago we had 4 Raiola clients on our books. Now in the space of 4 months Mkhitaryan has moved to Arsenal, Zlatan was released from his contract to join LA Galaxy, and now Lukaku has left Raiola to join up with Jay-Z. Leaving just Pogba left.

Is Pogba's supposed unhappiness cause or effect. Has Raiola reacted to the loss of his clients at our club by whispering in Pogba's ear as he has before. Or is the club unhappy with Raiola and systematically removing him from the club. Maybe Lukaku realises the club's relations with Raiola are strained and him changing agents is him attempting to prolong his United career.

Or maybe I'm putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with 5 as usual. Lol.

However, if Pogba leaves this summer we will have gone from having four clients of Raiola on our books to none in six months.

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20 Apr 2018 19:19:24
I thought Sergio Romero is a client of Mino.

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20 Apr 2018 20:41:45
I'd forgotten about Romero being a Raiola client. Although there has been speculation he is keen to move on to get regular playing time. And to be honest I don't blame him. He has to be one of the best if not the best second choice keeper in world football. He is far too good to be a back up. I wouldn't be gutter if he left, I have high hopes of Joel Pereira. I would be happy for him to be our second choice.

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Football-Rumours Editors Premier League Season Awards

20 Apr 2018 10:33:58
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20 Apr 2018 11:08:53
Good read, Ed001. How come Kane didn't get Young Player of the Year, as well? 😁.

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{Ed001's Note - it is awaiting the appeal he has lodged with us to decide whether he qualifies as he was once under 23. Or so he swears. We are waiting for documentation to prove that he is correct as swearing on young children's lives is not something we approve of here, unless it is on Ed004's life and you are lying of course....}

20 Apr 2018 14:22:43
Damn that was good Eds. First class 👍👏
I couldn’t stop laughing as I was reading. Enjoyed the comments and remarks.

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{Ed001's Note - cheers 666 realy glad you enjoyed it mate.}

20 Apr 2018 14:30:26
Ed001, that was hilarious.
Thanks for the post. Great read. :)

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{Ed001's Note - thank you zaid. Just hoping we can get Ed007 to at least watch the right competition for the World Cup awards....}

20 Apr 2018 10:06:15
So there we have it, Le Professeur has finally stepped down, least he'll leave in a respectable manner (hopefully) after receving s**t loads of abuse in the past few years. Absolutely loved our games against Arsenal all them years ago, two icons of the PL went head to head and it couldn't have been any better. All the talk about Guardiola changing English football this season but it was Arsene in '96 who really brought in a new style, ideas, tactics etc, combining technical skills with pace, power and grit.

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20 Apr 2018 10:20:08
Can’t believe it’s finally happening. He was amazing when he came and the rivalries with arsenal were so intense I miss them so much. I grew up on united v arsenal, Fergie v Wenger and Keano v vieira. No rivalry has come close to that. If arsenal can get a top manager in and sort out there defence they will be close to challenging imo. Got some very good attacking players. Apparently vieira is being talked about as the replacement. Would be a very interesting signing.

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20 Apr 2018 10:41:37
Would hate it if they got someone like Allegri or Simeone.

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20 Apr 2018 11:03:39
Agree Scholes. From the outside it seems they have been putting the ground work in the club with the appointment of mislentat for recruitment. Something which we seem to have failed to do. I think that if they get the appointment right they will be flying next season.

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20 Apr 2018 11:05:47
Tuchel is their man.

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20 Apr 2018 12:03:07
Psg bound tuchel i thought.

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20 Apr 2018 12:40:32
Tuchel to arsenal. Jose to psg. Big sam to united. Told by a pigeon.

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20 Apr 2018 12:48:17
Bang on Scholes. IF Wenger used the funds Guardiola got to use or spent the money he did. I reckon he wouldve got a similar type of season this year if not better.

I enjoyed Aresenals team over the years and the way they played rather then this Guardiola team.

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20 Apr 2018 12:55:19
Singh
Are joking? Wenger went a full season undefeated he was a fantastic manger but them days have gone.
Arsenal have underperformed for a few seasons now and even with an extra 100 mill wouldn't be on city's level .
Been a fantastic manager but past his best now.

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20 Apr 2018 13:12:26
For Wenger to keep them in champions league for the amount of consecutive years like he did, with the amount of top players leaving each other is a great achievement. Infact a very big achievement.

He took on Fergie with his teams and the way he played attacking football. I reckon the owners of Arsenal football club were just happy with the champions league footie each year hence why as soon as they are not achieveing that this year is the year Wenger has decided to quit.

His main aim was to qualify for champions league in the last 10 years which he did exceptionally with the type of player he had.

When you are a manager you are only mirroring what your owners expect of you and the expectations in the last 10 years at Arsenal was to qualify for champions league based on what we saw in terms of funds available, players moving away and players signed.

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20 Apr 2018 13:13:28
Haha mort 😂. Agree jred Wenger was great but he should have gone 5 years ago. A legend but it’s said how his reputation has taken a hit the last few years. hope he gets the send off he deserves as it’s an end of an era of managers staying long term at clubs. If they get Tuchel they will be a force next year.

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20 Apr 2018 13:30:08
I don't think Tuchel is all that tbh. His Dortmund team wasn't particularly great (Klopp's were better) and I cannot see him taking Arsenal from where they are now to title challengers.

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20 Apr 2018 13:31:36
I think we'll see Unai Emery Or Leonardo Jardim move to Arsenal.

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{Ed004's Note - Jardim would be a very good appointment}

20 Apr 2018 13:58:23
Money was there for arsenal last few years .33 points off city .

Been a great manager, but had his day.

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20 Apr 2018 14:16:55
Maybe he's saved the money for the next manager just like Fergie did at United.

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20 Apr 2018 14:42:59
Game of fine margins. Always had a lot of respect and admiration for Wenger, but probably stayed on too long. If SAF hadn't bought RVP, and won the title in his last year, I sometimes wonder if he would have been tempted to stay on to oversee another challenge. If so, and he failed, we might be talking about him, with the same open disdain that we've seen from Arsenal fans over the last few years. Sorry, just waffling.

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20 Apr 2018 14:44:17
Singh
Either way I don't think Wenger would of had a better season than city.

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20 Apr 2018 15:08:22
He was an inspired and brave choice as manager by the Arsenal board at the time, after Rioch and Graham. No one had really heard of him. His ideas revolutionised the Premiership and his and Arsenal's rivalry with Ferguson's United was incredible. Some of the best games I have ever watched.
I agree, Jardim would be a good choice for them.

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20 Apr 2018 13:46:00
Ed004 - I know mate, the kind of manager that some of us wanted to take over at Man United, but it is what it is. as SAF said we have to stand by the manager, regardless of who it is.

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20 Apr 2018 18:33:03
Sad to see him go, at one point I hated everything about him. However, as I've aged I've realised it was born out of him being a great manager and him denying my club titles and adulation. He will be a loss to the EPL. However, in recent seasons he has shown signs of not aging well. He has become stuck in his ways, refusing to adapt to a new football landscape and has become redundant as a result. His team's had the same old failings every year. You knew how Arsenal's season was going to go, where they would drop points and why. So for the good of the competition a manager with a more modern approach who can get Arsenal challenging again would be good.

I wish him all the best, maybe a spell in international football might suit him before a deserved retirement.

I hope Arsenal don't get Jardim, he could be very good for them. I'd like to see Rodgers given the role. I think the Arsenal job would suit him better than the Liverpool one did. His weakness is he likes the spotlight too much and takes his eyes off the ball. At a club like Liverpool like ours there is a massive spotlight. The players at Arsenal suit how Rodger likes to try and play. Also I would like to see a British manager given a chance at a top club.

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Review Of The Day 20th April 2018

20 Apr 2018 06:51:30
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 20th April 2018

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19 Apr 2018 23:24:38
If last summer had gone differently and we got morata instead of lukaku, and Chelsea got Lukaku, we could well be in Chelsea's position in the table and they could be in ours. A lot of opinion on the site was split between the two. They have missed costa this season and Lukaku would have done a great job for them in my opinion. He has put away a lot of the chances morata is missing. Morata has scored a few with his head but with our lack of wide play would he have scored as many headers playing for us?
Likewise with Matic and bakayoko, Matic has been great for us this season, I'm glad we signed him instead of bakayoko who we were also linked to last summer, a "younger better matic" lol.

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19 Apr 2018 23:47:20
Great Post, and to think he had his bleak form around Xmas, as did most of our team. He's still managed to improve drastically and score important goals. I feel after he broke his duck against the top 6 teams he's been brilliant, and even better news if he's left his fat greedy agent and gone with Jay z's company surely that's only a good thing.

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19 Apr 2018 23:57:56
If you think Matic has been great for us this season your watching a different game to me. He had a good few games at the start, he’s been poor since November.

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20 Apr 2018 00:49:58
He said matic did better than batayoko which is true, matic at the beginning of the season alongside pogba looked like the missing piece, obvs that went tits up. Matic has been Jose's boy who can't go wrong but I don't think he's been poor, he's been brilliant at being slightly above average with the odd exceptional game. Herrera in his past two games in a deep role has been impressive and I'd love for him to be given that role against spurs.

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20 Apr 2018 01:13:19
Stand, I don't know if you go to games or not but Matic is much better than he is given credit for. If we aren't pressing high up the pitch then he can't. When we do he is 20/ 30 yards in their half. He is more than a holding player. When he receives the ball he always looks forward first. More often than not we are static up front so, his passes are either sideways or backwards. he has probably been our most consistant player. Never dynamic or, run a game but, break up play and keep the ball.

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{Ed0333's Note - was he bought to press?

20 Apr 2018 06:31:49
Junctionred most teams walk through our mf like it doesn't exist, you could say that happens due to pogba being lazy but even against Brighton with a 3 man mf opposition still easily run through us, if matic is supposed to be protecting the defense then isn't doing a good job of it.

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20 Apr 2018 07:39:51
Dodged a bullet with morata really don't get the hype around him other than he played for Madrid.
11 league goals this season to go with the 7 and 8 he scored in 2 seasons at juve .
Matic has done well for United but I'm not sure he is the right player for us . Sits deep and starts a lot of the attacks but he sets the tempo from that position and it's very slow .
There is also not another team in the league that has such an exposed CB. Every time a team goes forward against us they get as far as our back line .
It makes me laugh when people say we don't attack because Jose wants to protect the back 4 . It's the most exposed back line in the league.

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20 Apr 2018 07:44:11
Its not down to Matic, overall our players do not press.

Matic won't do it alone, if its Mou tactics I don't know.

Without the ball players look lazy and lack desire to win it back.

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20 Apr 2018 08:20:25
Totally agree on Lukaku. I never understood why some posters started attacking him.
Jred and Kennedy have hit the nail on the head and it is something I've been banging on for some time. Our midfield is non existent and we don't work anywhere near hard enough when we lose the ball. Pressing the opposition does not exist in Mourinho's vocabulary. Also, in order to press, you need a mixture of small athletic midfielders to go along players like Matic. Unfortunately, Mourinho is only interested in playing tall big players. that's why our midfield looks so rigid. Our back 4 are constanrly exposed due to this error in tactics. If we had players like thiago, isco, veratti and herrera playing, we'll be a lot more combative in midfield.

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20 Apr 2018 12:50:59
You can't defend with players like Jones and smalling that is the reason why our midfielder can't attack and go gungho style. Not saying Matic is slow or is the best aeound but the blame has to be based on our defenders who are absolutely brainless.

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20 Apr 2018 13:20:39
Singh . He had last summer smalling, Jones, tfm, tuanzebe, rojo, blind plus two centre Half's he actually bought himself for big money bailey and lindelehoff . Whatever you or I think of people like smalling Jose given all those choices has decided smalling has been his go to centre half . I get that people don't rate smalling but he isn't selecting the team and picking himself . Jose given free choice of those players selects him . People then imply what chance has Jose got to play more attacking when people like smalling play but then gloss over he has had lots of other options including players bought to replace the likes of him . I know Bailly has had injuries but Jose has had lots of other options.

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20 Apr 2018 14:02:31
Smalling is picked week in week out by Jose he his Jose first choice cb.
Jose has said Valencia start tomorrow again his captain and first choice rb.
An area we are not looking to strengthen.

That's not the reason Jose isn't going gungho style it's also not the reason some of our cm aren't playing well.

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20 Apr 2018 18:44:56
Id actually say Jones is more his cup of tea except he's always injured.

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20 Apr 2018 19:12:45
And that is why smalling and jones are up for sale. Maybe smalling plays because he's in the shop window.

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20 Apr 2018 19:13:43
We are after a lb and maybe because we can't buy all thr players we want this window that is the reasson Valencia isn't to be replaced. If Mourinho had the chance he would rip thr whole defence up.

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20 Apr 2018 19:32:28
Singh
Would Jose or you? Jose bought 2 cbs smalling still get pick before him .
Valencia his captain plays when fit and is no where near as bad as you and others make out .

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20 Apr 2018 19:51:43
Ok Singh you feel then that utd can't attack much because smalling and Jones at the back don't allow this so Jose has spent the full season handicapping himself by picking them infront of all the other options and forcing himself into being more defensive than he wants to be in order to put them in the shop window . While taking a completely different method on other players he may wish to sell like darmian, Shaw and blind .

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19 Apr 2018 22:41:14
What's everyone's views, if either martial or pogba left this window, who would you rather stay? Perhaps personally I'd say with a heavy heart, would have to be martial, his effort and desire is more obvious than pogbas. So far.

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20 Apr 2018 07:40:56
I want them both to stay.

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Jordon Ibe

19 Apr 2018 20:54:30
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19 Apr 2018 17:32:48
So in January we went out and took a key player from one of our top six rivals. The 29 year old winger Alexis Sanchez. However, we were also linked with another 29 year old winger from a top six rivals, that being Willian of Chelsea.

Considering everything we know about Alexis struggles to settle, Willian's good relationship with Mourinho and his clear understanding of what Jose wants would it be fair to say that Willian may have been the better player to sign in January?

He likes to play off of the right hand side which is where we are weakest, he also wouldn't have to adapt to Mourinho so would have made a bigger impact sooner, which is what your looking for from a January signing. I have no doubt Alexis is the more talent player, I just feel Willian is a better fit for what Mourinho is trying to accomplish.

So Willian or Sanchez? Who would have been the better signing?

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19 Apr 2018 17:53:07
I don't think anybody could have suspected Sanchez would be this bad. Sanchez is a better player than Willian - most of our top players have been very hit and miss for years I put very little stock in what Jose does with them, we lack consistency everywhere so Willian may have been better but so could Mick the Plumber from the Horse and Jockey - there is a pattern with creative attacking players and our club under these negative managers we seem to hire.

99% of people would pick Sanchez over Willian with all things being equal imo mate - but I think we could have Messi playing for us and he would look rank average most games.

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19 Apr 2018 19:15:37
I have no idea why we signed Sanchez, but I can guess.

1. He was effectively free
2. He is a top class player
3. City wanted him.

However, did we need him or is holding back the development of others; did we have other positions in more need of strengthening?

A strange one to me.

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19 Apr 2018 21:03:30
Sanchez better then all the wingers we have . Infact we don't have a winger anymore.

Our wingers play as fullbacks.

He is better then Rashford and Martial. I just think we shouldve bought him in the summer but by then he woudlve gone to City.

The only player he has effected is Pogba who is no longer the player we rely heavily and isn't the main man anymore.

Sanchez will be so much better next year as he will have a full preseason with us in the summer.

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19 Apr 2018 21:09:12
I think when we got Sanchez 9 out of ten seemed pretty pleased . i'm guessing quite a few thought he would come in from the right and not oust two young lads being quite productive from the left . Granted he played a lot from the left with arsenal but he was no stranger or mug from the right either and our right hand side is far from productive in recent seasons .
At first he was cut some slack because he tried high risk passes but it seemed to snowball to the point even basic passes he's struggled with . He's a good player and tries hard but I can't blame the club, the manager or tactics as none of that explains why he's found even basic things so hard .
Hopefully he will come good soon but at the min no way should rash or martial be behind him in the pecking order to play left side on what we have seen not what we hoped we would see.

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19 Apr 2018 21:12:16
Good post singh.

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19 Apr 2018 21:38:52
You don’t pass up and opportunity when a world class player becomes available. And we stopped him going to city who would have gone up a level with Sanchez in their team. He’s struggled since joining but he hasn’t had a pre season and he is adjusting to a new club, teammates and surrounding. I agree that he shouldn’t play on the left and that has displaced rashford and martial. However, I think we will see the best of Alexis next season. A full pre season and no World Cup with do him the world of good. Form is temporary class is permanent.

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19 Apr 2018 22:06:28
Sanchez is the better player and I think we will see the best of him next year when he settles. January buys always awkward. Willian is a s player I have touted for us before, a Jose type player who works hard and would have settled quicker.
Maybe a try for him in the summer would be a good option.

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19 Apr 2018 22:14:51
Park, so if Neuer becomes available do we sign him?

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19 Apr 2018 22:36:17
Does nobody feel it was more Woodward than Jose wanting him, we know he loves his stellar signings. Maybe he was thinking of the impact RVP had.

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19 Apr 2018 22:43:50
AJH, that’s not the same situation, as we already have a world class keeper. We don’t have any world class attackers.

On the Sanchez thing, he’s been fairly poor, but I don’t think he’s really been any worse than anyone else. The whole team have been diabolical at times.

Tbh, if we had Messi in this team with these tactics and set up he’d probably look crap. Who think Salah would be approaching 40 goals had he moved to us? Be lucky to have 15 I think.

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19 Apr 2018 22:46:35
Martial and Rashford aren't wingers though?

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19 Apr 2018 23:07:20
AJH that’s obviously not the same situation being that De Gea is world class. I don’t think signing Sanchez was bad but playing him on the left is especially when martial was flying. Jose is paid the big bucks to make it work so he has got to find a way. But getting rid of martial or pogba do fit Sanchez in would be ridiculous.

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19 Apr 2018 23:13:47
Sanchez will come good after a full pre season.

Pogba has the most assists outside of man city’s top 3 in the league but just looks a bit lazy sometimes. Numbers are good.

Both players will be a lot more effective next yr. Pogba with more midfielders around him and Sanchez having bedded in.

Martial I worry about as I love him as a player but I feel he is the one most likely to leave / be sold out of all the press drivel floating about.

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20 Apr 2018 01:26:48
1. He was effectively free. Holy crap.

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{Ed0333's Note - Holy crap is right mate you got rid of one old ineffective player on astronomical wages and replaced him with another.

20 Apr 2018 07:52:55
I think Sanchez will predominantly play from the right next year but have the freedom to roam like mata does now. I think martial and rashford will stay and mata will leave.

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20 Apr 2018 16:51:16
You don't even have to think about that, Shappy. Willian didn't want to leave Chelsea so he was never a realistic option for you :-)

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Premier League Match Preview Thursday 19th April 2018

19 Apr 2018 07:13:02
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19 Apr 2018 10:48:46
Burnley has everything to play for and it will be tough for Chelsea tonight I feel. Not sure those guys will be playing for Conte as well since he is so strongly rumored to be leaving. I just feel the home team will be too motivated and passionate for Chelsea.
On another note Ed001 I heard you will not be doing the preview soon? That would be bloody sad mate!

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{Ed001's Note - sorry mate there will be a preview though hopefully.}

19 Apr 2018 13:34:09
Ed I meant I read that you will not be doing it after this season?

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{Ed001's Note - you are correct mate, though, hopefully, there is someone who will be doing them instead.}

Review Of The Day 19th April 2018

19 Apr 2018 07:09:27
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 19th April 2018

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19 Apr 2018 07:54:51
Wow certainly a great read 🤣🤣🤣
Conte talking about Dykes 🤔🤔🤔. Maybe they can exchange places and I would think Conte couldn’t do a better job. What’s he trying to divert? Joker.
Rafael says a lot about our LVG. This provides good insight into how and what LVG is as a person. I am confident Rafael is good or at least he was that good under SAF. Funny he is not good enough for LVG. Bummer 🤣.

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{Ed001's Note - LVG is just old skool and likes bush rather than Brazilian.}

19 Apr 2018 09:13:04
Agree 666 rafael’s comments were very telling of how things were under LVG and his man management style. I personally think it was a huge mistake to sell him he was one of my favourite players and his attacking output was much better than Valencia’s only issue was he was rash at times such as his sending off against Ribery when we played Bayern in 2010.

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19 Apr 2018 10:44:07
Yeah Park I like Rafael as well - anytime better than Rojo or what we have now. Sending off aside we were always the target anyway. Most times other clubs do the same they get off but we get punished I feel. Just look at the Nani situation. Anyway there will also be cases where we were shown leniency so I’ll leave it as that.
But I really cannot get myself to defend on any criticism of LVG as I just think he is worse than Moyes. Moyes is nice person but lousy manager and LVG is okay manager but I don’t like his demeanor. Those two didn’t help us to be honest. We just went spiraling downwards from there. Sad.

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19 Apr 2018 13:09:06
In fergusons last season at United I remember him being one of our best players. He was very good against Ronaldo in the Madrid games and looked like he was going to be a great player. Anyone know how he’s doing at Lyon?

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19 Apr 2018 14:17:45
He had a great season caolan in fergie’s last season. The best one for us. His goals against Liverpool and QPR was very memorable. I think he’s doing well at Lyon but don’t know too much. Andy mitten wrote the article and it looks like Rafa is loving life in Lyon.

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20 Apr 2018 07:57:18
He should never have been sold. By all accounts lvg has very poor people skills. If any of you have read the biography about Robert enke, Louis comes across as a total git.

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