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15 Dec 2022 17:24:24
"Asked for an update on the sale of United, he (Glazer) told the outlet, "It's not necessarily a sale, it's a process and we're going forward with the process, so we'll see what happens. "
When he was pushed for further updates about how many interested parties had made themselves known already, he added: "I'm here to really watch the World Cup but I appreciate your interest. That's the update, it's the process and the process is proceeding. "
Loose lips sink ships, eh? Or, no offers yet?
1.) 15 Dec 2022 19:03:26
Shawthing,
The cynic in me think he’s was over there in business. He doesn’t give a damn about football, he wouldn’t be able to tell you the United players left.
2.) 15 Dec 2022 20:31:51
The Glazers have been to something like 6 United games in 17 years. No chance he was in Qatar to watch the world cup. He was there on business.
3.) 18 Dec 2022 08:37:42
They were there to watch Man Utd in the Soccerball World Cup Superbowl Finals.
29 Jan 2019 22:38:42
Frustrating game in many ways, which could have been so different had Rashford scored as he should have done in the first 10 minutes. He did not have a great game and nor did Pereira who looked completely out of his depth against a very aggressive midfield. I really don't think he's good enough for United, or indeed the type of player who will do very well in the EPL.
In this new system Sanchez looks like he could contribute significantly. A forward line of Rashford, Martial and Sanchez seems like it ought to pay dividends.
1.) 30 Jan 2019 05:23:42
Agreed, the interplay of Lukaku near the penalty box is not fluid as between Rash, Martial and Lingard.
2.) 30 Jan 2019 09:31:55
I was sat in the East end at OT. We should have had another penalty.
3.) 30 Jan 2019 14:28:00
To be honest I think Pereira didn't have his best game ever, but Jones throw him a brick, and then he got completely confused in the one-one defending.
I believe Pereira could be better but in an attacking position and no asan "herreras" replacement.
This is the first Ole´s game we start losing and that does not goes as planned, but the squad show commitment and desire. If Rashford scores that 10m goal the game would have been completely different with space and time for counters but rubbish happens. Let's focus on the next games and let's hope we have a great february.
i think it is better for Ole and the team to have lost the winning streak now and no in a game against PSG or Chelsea.
GGMU.
26 Dec 2018 22:43:47
Very good to see United score 8 goals in 2 games even if it was against teams near the bottom against whom we've been having all sorts of trouble. The tempo and the pressing seem to be what's needed. Perhaps Sanchez and Lukaku will benefit from it when they come back into the reckoning. But suffice it to say we have now scored 37 goals this season. If we can double it in the second half it will be our best haul since SAF's last year. If we're going to come 6th then the United way is surely that it's more entertaining to do it with 75 goals for and 55 goals against than with 50 goals for and 30 goals against.
I must say I've been unimpressed by Dalot defensively. He doesn't look like he has the pace and his positioning appears very suspect. I know he's young and there's an adjustment time - Evra didn't settle immediately - but nevertheless he's going to have to improve dramatically to cement that right back position. The other new player who doesn't they seem to have what it takes is Fred. It's hard to believe we were persuaded to spend £52m for him - or perhaps not, given some of our purchases recently. We would have done better spending it on a top center half. Many United fans criticized Liverpool for spending so much on Van Dijk but he seems like a bargain at this juncture.
1.) 26 Dec 2018 23:26:42
Shawthing, speed can be deceptive. Dalot was clocked as being the fastest player on the pitch today. But if the timing of that speed is not right it can be wasted.
He is a raw talent no doubt. We don’t have great options right now.
2.) 26 Dec 2018 23:44:01
Give the young lad Dalot a break. A couple of weeks ago against Fulham he couldn't get enough praise. That he was the answer to our right wing back problem for the next 10 years. Then a weaker game today and you're not sure is he going to make it. Inconsistency is a given for a teenager. Support your own.
3.) 27 Dec 2018 07:15:15
In fairness, that was one of Huddersfield’s tactics, mbenza is very quick, and Anytine they could they tried releasing him. Dalot was on the back foot very quickly after an attack broke down. Great lesson for the Lad.
4.) 27 Dec 2018 07:29:16
Dalot is young, 19 years old and playing only his third game in the EPL. His last performance won him man of the match so I see no reason to be worried about him. He is young and he will be inconsistent, he will make mistakes that is all part of learning. He has the qualities to become a world class full back, we need to give him the time and the chances for him to fulfill that potential.
5.) 27 Dec 2018 10:20:15
Dalot is certainly my Pick over an aging TonyV and Young (who is doing ok too) .
He is our future at right back, so let him play I say.
6.) 27 Dec 2018 11:25:22
He looks more like a future winger to me. He doesn't seem interested in defending.
7.) 27 Dec 2018 15:25:05
We've been defending whole season and still conceding goals. I don't even care whether Dalot comes back to defend or not. It was just nice to see our right back in the opposition box getting a cross from our striker and almost scoring a goal.
8.) 27 Dec 2018 18:07:46
Centre back and we are sorted Imo. we have options everywhere else. I'm really excited by dalot him, Shaw and lindelof could be together for a while along time and build a good understanding.
9.) 27 Dec 2018 19:03:50
Also how he plays will depend a lot on who is managing him. He did well defensively in Mourinho's defensive set up.
Ole has said publicly he wants our full backs to push up high and overlap our wingers. So if that is what is being asked of Dalot then it's good to see him following the managers commands.
02 Dec 2018 17:46:30
Assuming the rumours are true, if you believe your £90m transfer is playing with inadequate effort and/ or a poor mentality, a dressing down in the changing room in front of team mates is perfectly reasonable. I bet every one of us who have played sports have at some time or other have heard it from a coach or a colleague. Grow up and knuckle down. Most of the kids who watch you would kill for a chance at 1/ 10th of the benefits your innate talent has brought you.
The fact is Pogba is a disappointment. While he covers a fair amount of ground within a team that consistently covers the least in the EPL, he rarely sprints, neither in offence or defence. This characteristic was visible when he first stepped on the field in a United jersey before he went to Juventus. He looks lackadaisical, and it's probably one of the reasons why Ferguson was not inclined to fight to keep him. The problem is that, while he has talent, he is way to into himself to be a true leader, and that's the key role we need him to fill. A player who leads by example.
We are 5 years into the post-Fergie era and we are worse than ever. We do have some good players to build a team around but it's hard to see anything positive coming from them in the current climate. Given the amount of money we've spent, the only conclusion we can draw is that we are infected by a virus. Whether the source is Pogba, Mourinho or the general club mentality itself is a matter of conjecture. My own sense is that Woodward, Mourinho and Pogba are all symptoms of a deeper problem.
1.) 02 Dec 2018 21:07:06
All 3 of them should go at the end of the season.
We should say thanks Jose but uts not worked ta-ra. Says Pogba but you want to go to Spain so here's the asking price. And Woodward should have the decency to say "it was my decision to appoint Jose so I'll step down. "
2.) 03 Dec 2018 06:49:20
Fergie did want to keep Pogba, it was out of his hands. and while you might think Pogba has been disappointing his season, so has Lukaku, Rashford, Martial (most of the time), Bailly, Fred, Matic. who hasn't been disappointing? People might point to Shaw, but he hasn't gotten back to the 2-way beast he was looking like before his injury either.
I think when that many players aren't performing you have to look at the manager. And it's not like Mourinho's faults have been hard to see. Bizarre team selections and subs, consistently embarrassing behaviour, publicly sledging players all the time and bemoaning a lack of signings.
He's got to go. He's not one of us and he never will be.
13 Jan 2018 13:49:56
Sanchez has a bit of the Tevez about him. Very emotional. He obviously has all the skills, and when he's motivated his intensity and purpose adds a dimension to his game that any team would covet. So what is it that motivates him.
Clearly it's the thought of winning honours, and conversely looking at he seems to be demotivated by his team's mediocrity. So my guess is that:
1) he would only come to United if he thought he would win the EPL and/ or the Champions League in the next couple of years, and
2) if he did come, and it looked like those objectives were not going to be fulfilled, then it would be a disastrous transfer because his negative emotionality would end up leeching into and upsetting the dressing room.
Like for most supporters winning is ultimately more important than style. Arsenal play with style but they don't win the important trophies any more, which doesn't please their supporters and is clearly a demotivation to top players.
1.) 13 Jan 2018 15:39:18
Agreed for sure!
Lucas Moura maybe?
On another note, I mentioned a defender Jorge Mere who was at Espanyol and now at Koln and NOW Barça are after him!
We should have got this guy! Well disappointed!
2.) 13 Jan 2018 16:06:08
Well Ronnie don't mean to be rude but you might have named atleast 200 players by now. It might be difficult for United hierarchy to properly understand which one you want.
3.) 13 Jan 2018 16:34:44
I deserved that! 😂.
4.) 13 Jan 2018 21:09:56
For Sanchez's supposed attitude you can see the same thing happening at Spurs in the next 18 months if they win nothing -Ali, Erikson etc have no real affinity to Spurs as many players don't to their clubs. Sanchez probably looks around and sees nothing there but the odd FA CUp. maybe views us the same . time will tell.
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17 Jul 2024 18:05:56
The truth remains that United is not likely to be the top destination for any top player at this moment in time, so there may yet be a tendency and need to both gamble and perhaps overpay. But the instinct is right. We're replacing Varane, a player who came to us at the end of his career with no residual value, a known propensity for injury and was paid over £17m pa with a young player with potential for 1/ 2 that amount.
If Yoro proves to be the player many are expecting then, if RM want him in 2 years time they will have to pay a lot more than United have just done. So, there is an opportunity to profit, unlike Varane. The risk is that he will not pan out in the EPL, or at least not immediately.
Clearly the new management team is taking a different approach, and it's what we have all wanted: a return to the United philosophy of constantly building for a better future on a foundation of nurturing young talent. Will there be missteps along the way? Of course. With Mainoo, Garnacho, Amad, Hojlund, and now Zirkzee and Yoro we can see a squad building that could be worth far more than is on the books. That's good business. The new management team has been at work for but a couple of weeks. They, along with the manager, seem to have a clear idea of what they're trying to achieve. I have no idea how any player will fare within our set up, but I do sense that a much needed change in direction has taken place.
1.) 17 Jul 2024 20:34:02
I get what you’re saying, but since when have United been a buy to sell club? We should be looking to be the club that all players want to be at, not A Real Madrid feeder club! I wouldn’t sell them a canteen lady, never mind one of our players.
2.) 17 Jul 2024 22:40:46
I dunno about that Fireman, I'd sell them most of our current players to be honest. Only a few in our current squad I wouldn't want to sell to them.
3.) 18 Jul 2024 05:22:17
You are spending way too much time about Real Madrid and him going there in a few years. He may end up being at the club for the next 10 years if he turns out to be what people think. Its a pointless conversation imo and most important thing is how well he settles down and adapts to the Pl and life in Manchester and at United. Winning trophies being happy and in general players mindset come into it when they decide to make a change. We are a massive club and not some transit station mid level team with little history.
4.) 18 Jul 2024 08:15:05
Ahmad - think you make a really good point about being settled, adapted and happy in Manchester/ PL. It's not something that is obvious watching games but to get the best out of players they have to have the mental side right. I think we have bought dozens of really talented players who failed to demonstrate what they're truly capable of. I wonder if an area we have struggled as a club is player wellbeing, and we only notice when it looks like players stop trying and the culture is poor. We get on the players backs, but there's so much that goes into being on top of your game, and its not just what happens on the training ground.
5.) 18 Jul 2024 09:13:34
For me, the important thing is that he's been open about wanting Madrid. The club knows and can plan accordingly. If RM come in for him in 2-3 years, we'll already have replacements scouted and we'll be ready to get the replacement in before letting Yoro go, and he won't go cheaply.
I don't mind us getting a few years out of him and then selling him at a massive profit and using that money to improve the squad. We are not in the position we once were, and we have to accept that. If an influx of cash from selling Yoro in a few years can help fund the final stage of transition back into being a top team challenging for the title, I'm ok with that.
We also need to remember that RM may lose interest in him over the next few years, or move on to the next "next big thing" which could then see us having Yoro for the next 10-15 years. Just becuse he wants to go to RM and they are interested now, doesn't mean he'll end up there. RMs interest can be fickle, and if another such promising youngster suddenly emerges, RM could forget all about Yoro.
6.) 18 Jul 2024 14:08:47
Shappy…. we’re getting there. But you get my point.
15 Jul 2024 14:02:11
So much of winning at sports is about psychology, particularly when it comes to finals. Neither Kane nor Southgate possess that final piece of the puzzle. England had a decent first half but they were not primarily set up to win but not to lose. Spanish teams are set up to win. Negativity.
We have had some great players but not since 1966 have we had a manager who knew how to make a team that was greater than the sum of its individual parts.
1.) 15 Jul 2024 15:30:30
Agreed. Southgate will get a new contract and stay on for the World Cup I expect.
If it was me in charge at the FA I’d be going straight after Klopp.
2.) 15 Jul 2024 17:56:00
I feel stuck between a rock and a hard place.
On one hand Southgate has done a decent job in terms of results. Certainly better than most England managers. Yet it's obvious that he can't take the team that next step to actually winning something.
Yet if he's replaced this summer then I have a real feeling of dread that if things don't start well next season that EtH will be replaced with Southgate.
So I hope he's given a new 2 year deal and we can rule him out of the United job.
3.) 15 Jul 2024 19:33:53
Shapoy,
Give him a 4 year contract just to make sure lol.
4.) 15 Jul 2024 20:35:42
Sign him up to england for life!
5.) 15 Jul 2024 21:05:00
Too right fallguy.
Klopp could do wonders with this England squad!
6.) 15 Jul 2024 21:53:09
I'd love to see Klopp as England manager.
It's a really interesting scenario to see managers in, where they can't buy players to fit their system, it's a real test.
7.) 15 Jul 2024 23:28:45
Shappy, yes he's done a decent job, but that's it given the talent pool at his disposal. Meanwhile ETH has shown that he can win trophies. And I for one am not prepared to start out the season believing that ETH will fail, or that Southgate would do any better if the board decided to hire him.
8.) 16 Jul 2024 05:28:37
Shawthing, nothing is a given. There have been great managers with as talented groups of players who have achieved less with England.
I'd 1000% prefer EtH as our manager over Southgate.
I don't believe he will fail, but to be blind to the possibility that he could is just plain gullibility. Like it or not I think it's fairly clear that the manager has kept his job because there is no one better available and willing to take the job. Rather than because EtH is the man they want. It is a marriage of convenience, which means that the moment it becomes inconvenient it will end.
That's not what I want, but it's the reality of the situation. Hopefully the manager does well next season and we can all keep moving forward.
I don't think Southgate would do better. Which is why I'm concerned that he could be a genuine option to replace him if EtH is relieved of his duties.
9.) 16 Jul 2024 06:30:40
England ranked 23rd out of 24 teams for expected goals per 90 from open play at the Euros. Now I don’t usually pay too much notice to fluffy stats, but anyone watching could see that England hardly had a shot.
And that’s with better players than United has.
Southgate will be a disaster, we’d be bored to tears, and will finish mid-table before he’s eventually sacked. Nothing is certain but there’s more than enough evidence to suggest Southgate would be a huge failure, at any PL club.
10.) 16 Jul 2024 12:13:49
Wazza
Managing an international team where you get the pick of the best there is and if you listen to the pundits and media this england team has generational talent all over the pitch and he can't get a tune of them. At club level you have to play and manage squads that are not necessarily the best players and add injuries to that too and sometimes no options. He will sink imo no matter how good a guy he is.
03 Jul 2024 19:37:48
What are people's feelings about the announced redundancies? How much a year will it save the club? Maybe £12.5m or so? 250 x £50k average. That's about the equivalent of 1 year's amortization of Antony's transfer fee.
I guess it's all part of the process of modernizing and making us profitable again, but one wonders why, if there are 250 unnecessary people on the payroll, it's taken so long in the light of the losses the club has been racking up.
Perhaps, given the unpopularity of the Glazers, they were loath to do it themselves (or have their henchman do it). Imagine the stink had they made 250 people redundant. SJR gets something of a pass during the honeymoon period.
1.) 03 Jul 2024 21:17:22
Never nice to see anybody lose their jobs. From a business perspective it needs to be done. We are over staffed regardless of what anybody earns or costs and that's not up for debate as far as SJR is concerned.
If they save 10m a year on players wages it wouldn't mean they employ people unnecessarily because they have more cash.
2.) 03 Jul 2024 22:13:27
SJR is known for cutting costs across all of his business'. Streamlining things. Unfortunately that's just the way he does things.
I don't want to see anyone lose their jobs.
3.) 03 Jul 2024 23:43:14
A few weeks ago an article stated that their was so many employees been paid whilst working from home. I understand that Covid meant this had to happen. The amount of staff working from home was a lot if reports were true.
4.) 04 Jul 2024 01:02:00
I think redundancy payments are tax deductible, I'm not 100%
Standard practice with a lot of mergers or acquisitions.
5.) 04 Jul 2024 06:37:09
Yes was bound to happen. £12 -£15m is a lot for a business making little to no profit. I imagine this is partly funding the renovation to Carrington for the bead counters.
6.) 04 Jul 2024 18:03:13
I don't want to see people lose their jobs but I also don't like to see SJR painted as a villan when I read elsewhere our I. T/ Communications dept has around 110 more employees than Arsenal and 90 more than Chelsea . how can that be possible?
10 Jun 2024 22:18:51
Apparently our payroll in 2024 was 8th highest in Europe at €381m behind Barcelona at €639m, PSG at €617m and City at €554m. Also above us RM, Liverpool, BM and Chelsea. As hard as it is to believe these numbers they MUST be true because some journo somewhere will have spent 100s of hours delving into the intricacies of football club accounting.
Also - apparently!? - we have cooled our interest in Pocchetino, and Tuchel has ruled himself out of contention. So the fact that elsewhere in the universe there are suggestions that ETH will in fact stay at United, following the advice proferred by LVG, it's all becoming increasingly clear what's going to happen. And another fun fact:- we are the third most followed club on social media behind the two Spanish clubs.
The things one learns when one does ones own research!
1.) 10 Jun 2024 23:35:43
Well that leaves only the mighty Southgate left to pick between ???.
2.) 10 Jun 2024 23:46:14
Surely the delay now can only be either Utd talking to Southgate’s people behind the scenes, or the terms of Ten Hag’s new contract not being ironed out.
3.) 10 Jun 2024 23:47:00
. and have nothing else to do.
4.) 11 Jun 2024 00:30:10
Apparently, Southgate is out of the running now because "timelines don't align. "
I don't know what to believe anymore, so I've stopped paying attention.
All I can say is, if Ineos have approached or shown interest in some of the names the press have suggested, then they aren't looking for best in class like they claim. They are desperate, so they have resorted to a pool of out of work managers or are more interested in hiring their mates.
5.) 11 Jun 2024 03:45:08
So with Poch out the running then it’s either ETH or Southgate then. UEFA data about wages has the same list about wages but Chelsea’s numbers are apparently from the season before so will likely be lower.
6.) 11 Jun 2024 07:14:57
It must be de Zerbi then, because ETH has known for months.
7.) 11 Jun 2024 08:46:45
Wazza ??.
8.) 11 Jun 2024 09:03:56
Ornstein who is very well respected has said he won’t speculate as he doesn’t have a clue what’s happening. If he doesn’t know then none of the other so called journos will know. Seems like a lot of the stories circulating are just made up to create interactions…imagine that!
9.) 11 Jun 2024 10:19:25
Who says Poch interest has cooled? Southgate may not be available until end of July which would seem an odd appointment to me considering we have no Ashworth or Berrada in place yet either. I think if ten hag was staying I’d tell United to shove it tbh after courting others only for us to come back to him. I don’t think any journos know the truth in all honesty, the only thing I know is I don’t want Southgate and would prefer ten hag in to that, I’d prefer Poch out of the available coaches and either way can this review just get done so we can crack on with our summer plans and just pay up for Ashworth while we’re at it, meant to be a new United way not the same old embarrassing stories coming out.
10.) 11 Jun 2024 11:57:32
I doubt EtH minds what happens, he gets £10m if he sits tight and waits to be sacked rather than quitting.
11.) 11 Jun 2024 12:09:59
Agreed WRD.
There has been a lot of backlash recently on Jacob Steinberg after attacking Mainoo and Saka after the defeat to Iceland. He is the one who wrote the story for the Guardian that ETH was going to be sacked before the Final, which prompted other outlets to follow. He is being discredited for a lot of his previous articles.
Whatever happens, the one take away is that the British press are toxic, and most would sell their own mothers to sell a headline.
12.) 11 Jun 2024 17:50:05
Every day is like groundhog day as a united supporter. Supposed sure targets who are coming going elsewhere with the added twist of a new candidate as a manager on a daily basis or candidates falling by the way side. This club never seems to change. Its farcical IMO and don't need 3 weeks to figure out if someone who has been working for you is good enough or needs to be replaced.
We will end up shopping at Tesco by the time this window is done, nothing has changed.
13.) 11 Jun 2024 18:30:25
The window isn’t even open lol.
Which Prem sides have strengthened so far?
It will be ok ?.
14.) 11 Jun 2024 19:47:53
I remember growing up finding out football news in the paper or teletext, now every man and his dog are giving updates every 5 minutes on social media which are usually bull, the problem is a lot of people follow and believe it which brings impatience.
The moral of the story. Bring back teletext?.
15.) 11 Jun 2024 21:13:21
Wiggy, and the football pink ?.
16.) 12 Jun 2024 04:49:47
Groundhog day over. maybe we are changing for good. let's move on and have a real good window. delighted with the decision.
17.) 12 Jun 2024 06:02:00
Don't read the press then Ahmed, I remember when Murdoch was going to buy us many a year ago and we were supposed to be buying the likes of Ronaldo 1.0, all BS.
United sell papers, they print what they want regardless.
08 Jun 2024 16:02:43
Why the delay?
1. No CEO or DOF in place yet. Do INEOS and the Glazers twant to preempt their new management team? Maybe Berada/ Ashworth would consider ETH, with proficient scouting and recruiting behind him, as good a candidate as any to take the club forward. Guardiola was highly complimentary, maybe Berada feels the same.
2. If compensation has to be paid to either ETH and/ or Newcastle for Ashworth does the timing make a substantive difference to the club's FFP position (or whatever they're calling it now) .
3. In any event, with only 1 year left on his contract, even if ETH is staying, there may need to be renegotiation regarding a possible extension and a change in his responsibilities. The club cannot afford to waste enormous sums of money on the Antonys of this world, and needs to somehow reduce the number of injuries.
1.) 08 Jun 2024 20:57:42
You would have thought as soon as Berrera was talking to Ineos that his opinion on the manager would have been given, so it’s probably a waiting game until July when the new season starts. If they were to carry on with Ten Hag it would be known by now.
2.) 08 Jun 2024 22:45:42
Shawthing, according to some on here he's known he is going for ages though ?
I think they are unsure.
If he does stay, I'd imagine they'd want to give him another year or two, with different terms. Otherwise, a year left, its pointless.
Just doesn't bode well for INEOS, with all this dithering.
3.) 09 Jun 2024 12:12:36
I would have thought ETH has known for weeks. Why would he not? Which way though. .!
4.) 09 Jun 2024 13:53:51
He has known they are taking to other managers since the beginning of April.
5.) 09 Jun 2024 14:40:58
Known he was leaving ken? Thought that was what you said.
25 Jul 2024 00:03:21
De Gea was the highest pad goalkeeper in the EPL by a wide margin and quite frankly he did not justify it. I would go so far as to say that it was yet another piece of poor business by United to hold on to him when his contract was renewed by using what can only be regarded as a financial bribe. In the end, of course, he left and the club made no money from it. It was the correct decision to let him go and thereby rectify the previous error. He was not treated badly. On the contrary he was treated too well.
12 Jul 2024 15:56:56
Ports, it comes down to Woodward. He was arrogant enough to think that he actually knew something about football. I am led to believe by one of the football directors that all the decisions were his.
You may also recall him saying (echoing Arsenal? ) something about how winning the title was not important from a financial point of view. I remain amazed that the Glazers kept him in that position for so long. Maybe he had some kompromat on them!
The buck, as they say, stops with him.
12 Jun 2024 21:22:22
Pellistri looked underweight and not fast enough for the EPL. Decent player but future lies elsewhere. I hope we keep Amad. He looks like a really good option on the right.
Skillful, quick, can go inside or out, can dribble and shoot, which is to say he has demonstrated in his few opportunities a host of skills Antony seems to lack. An excellent squad member in what will be a full season, especially if we continue to do well in cup competitions.
07 Jun 2024 19:11:12
I am quite happy to see him achieve some form of redemption. I don't generally expect high moral character from teenagers who have too much money and have come from poor backgrounds.
31 May 2024 12:43:00
Okay, Bill, I'll bite.
That's one cup more than Liverpool in the last 2 years under the great Klopp despite not having to deal with some aging prima donna (Ronaldo), the Greenwood distraction (nothing to do with ETH), the ungrateful Sancho (who never produced for us, and was mollycoddled by the manager), being forced to rely on loans because the club has been up against FFP, and inheriting a weak minded short on skills squad put together by an incompetent management structure.
Tell me, would Klopp or Guardiola stand for players dissing them on social media?
20 Jul 2024 20:07:16
A complete transition will not be accomplished in the first summer window. If we end up in the top 4 and win any cup we should all be delighted. We're looking for right direction and right attitude, rather than the finished article.
15 Jul 2024 23:28:45
Shappy, yes he's done a decent job, but that's it given the talent pool at his disposal. Meanwhile ETH has shown that he can win trophies. And I for one am not prepared to start out the season believing that ETH will fail, or that Southgate would do any better if the board decided to hire him.
07 Jul 2024 22:50:56
I've seen the highlight reels and he looks like he has bags of talent, but the EPL can be brutal. It concerns me that he's getting virtually no time on the field for the Dutch. He's 23 so he should be coming into his prime. Let's hope so.
26 Jun 2024 13:43:28
Very hard for a person to accept that he/ she is crap at their job! If that person just happens to be the boss then who gets canned first? Not the boss.
14 Jun 2024 16:21:55
I do think ETH has tried very much to follow the directive to play an attacking style of play. Unfortunately that's a very big ask when you don't have any of your first choice defenders, and one of your key midfielders (Casemiro) doesn't have the legs for it. It's all very well he and Varane complaining that It's not the way Ancelotti coached, the basic reality is that RM is well established top European club whereas MUFC is clearly not. Obviously, in the last few games, with a title on the line, ETH reined in the attacking ambition and became totally pragmatic. So he can go that way, but tell me how many of you will applaud when he goes for that approach against a nominally weak team? Do we want a return to the pragmatic LVG days? How wonderful, we just beat Ipswich 1-0 at home with a break away goal after a demoing a defensive master class!
I do feel for those players who were disappointed by United's inability to recruit truly top team mates. But that's been a problem for a long while now. You may recall when Rooney went through a transfer saga with SAF. I seem to remember even back then there was talk of him being dissatisfied with the lack of top quality transfers. It's been a dominant feature of the Glazer ownership. No competition for top players up to the end of SAF's reign, then indecisiveness ultimately leading to resorting to over priced players who only came for the money, and were not acquired within the context of any thought out longer term strategy. Just big names, often in the twilight of their careers, whose principle value it seems was for the kit sponsors to sell more shirts. I think we fail to appreciate just how toxic the internal dynamics of the club had become in the eyes of outsiders. Why would a top manager or player choose United over City, Liverpool or any of the other major European powerhouses. And of course, FFP rules and the £1bn+ in debt only added to the problems.
Ineos have a lot to sort out. The most important challenge of all is theirs, restoring our credibility to the outside world.