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20 May 2025 08:45:22
Aside from the lads out on loan (Rashy, Sancho, Antony, Malacia) and those who's contracts are up (Eriksen, Lindelof, Evans, Heaton) . do you think there are other players the club will actively look to sell?
My impression is that Amorim isn't too happy with either goalkeeper option, so if a new GK target is gettable I assume one of them would be pushed out.
I also wonder about Toby Collyer – he’s filled in a bit for the first team and looked fairly dependable, but doesn't look like he's going to be a starter. Might the club look to cash in? Obviously we don’t have loads of options in CM, but Kone gets talked about as a great prospect.
Casemiro – I get the impression he will be relied upon next season, and then leave for free NEXT summer. But if there is solid interest this window, the club may look to receive a fee to reinvest. Again it gives us the job of finding ANOTHER CM this window.
Hojlund – Amorim has stuck by him, and selling just means we take a big loss and have to sign 2 forwards (likely expensive) . I assume he stays, but missing out on Europe (perish the thought) might mean we approach next season with a smaller squad – so he could be at risk.
Maguire? He enters the final year of his contract next season, so will need an extension or we lose him for free NEXT summer. Might the club look to get a fee this summer? Unlikely as he has been integral recently, and unsure if there will be a queue of clubs willing to pay a fee AND pay him a wage he is happy with.
Garnacho? Mainoo? Obviously both been talked about a lot and would be plenty of takers I assume. To me it would be strange if the club actively tried to sell these players, but I would understand if a BIG offer (£70M+) was accepted for either.
Mount? Dalot? Shaw?
1.) 20 May 2025 10:42:10
Rasmus is already as good as gone, no way he will accept being understudy his ego won’t allow it, he is pointless keeping, he will never be a goal scorer of any note in the EPL 1st 2nd or 3rd choice
Onana probably gone too along with Garnacho, who just is a terrible finisher and becoming a one trick pony, we certainly need an experienced commanding CB along with decent midfielder.
2.) 20 May 2025 11:54:48
We should be actively looking to sell/ let go on a free etc
Evans
Maguire
Shaw
Linder
Erickson
Antony
Sancho
Rashford
Onana
Bayinder
Hojland
Martinez
Malacia.
3.) 20 May 2025 13:04:52
Add Garnacho and possibly Mainoo to that list and I would add Deligt and Ugarte, but can’t get rid of that many in one go, because certainly more than half those nobody will want on the contracts they are on with us…
TBF who would you buy from that list?
4.) 20 May 2025 14:57:27
I don't understand you're problem with DeLigt.
I think he is quality.
5.) 20 May 2025 16:37:43
Would like to see if Martinez can recover and keep fit. Even if not in Central defence he could play just in front of a back three.
6.) 20 May 2025 16:42:05
My problem with him, is he been injured most his career and he too slow and ponderous and not even a leader, ok if your not looking to be up the top half the table, but that’s about it.
I think same of Deligt like Ugarte, both not good enough to get us where we want to be. Both ok if that’s what you’re looking for, I would much prefer Spurs Dutch CB, who got pace to burn, but he always injured too. So what’s the point in them….
7.) 20 May 2025 17:11:23
Casemiro too. Massively overpaid and after another season will be moving in slow motion.
8.) 20 May 2025 18:44:10
German that's not true of de ligt. He has not been injured most of his career.
9.) 20 May 2025 21:01:12
Martinez is out until Jan 2026, he ain't getting sold for toffee.
10.) 21 May 2025 00:22:47
Like quite a few players we have deligt has some good attributes and is a strong character. He does lack pace and is imo a better version of a mguire type of player. We have a lot of young defenders so we do lack experience. You can't just throw everybody out martinez is out till next year so I think we do need to sign a cb and I think they will. We are losing 2 plus martinez so effectively only have 2 teenagers in yoro and heaven with maguire and delight as cb options next season plus 2 makeshift options of maz and the ever reliable Shaw.
11.) 21 May 2025 10:25:43
100% we sign a commanding CB
If offer come in for Deligt he be out, too slow for EPL and he injured far far too much for a young player, how anyone says he is quality, judging him in the EPL is beyond me, but then the same ones think Ugarte is quality, neither of them can catch a cold… so it says it all really.
24 Jan 2025 08:42:31
Wingers.
I understand Amorims system doesn't call for conventional wingers/ wide forwards, but I wanted to raise a concern about not having enough of them in the squad.
Antony, Garnacho and Rashford all potential leavers.
If things don't work out with Amorim and we change manager, the likelihood is that the successor will want wide forwards (not many sides play without them) .
We will be in a situation again where a manager gets a free pass because they didn't choose squad, don't have the right tools etc.
The main concern is how expensive wide forwards are to buy (eg Sancho and Antony) . I can see us being in a real expensive pickle where we need an attacker on each side.
If the 3 above were to leave, it would leave only Amad in the whole squad who would slot into one of those roles. Even future academy grads will not get first team experience as a wide attacker as the manager doesn't use them
But fingers crossed it doesn't matter because the Amorim reign will be long and successful!
1.) 24 Jan 2025 09:08:20
Rashford and Antony for 18 months have stunk the place out.
Garnacho I think lacks real quality when it comes to end product. I get what you’re saying, but even if Amorim doesn’t work based on what we’ve seen recently I’d imagine any new manager would want them upgraded.
2.) 24 Jan 2025 09:37:24
Your concerns have been duely noted.
3.) 24 Jan 2025 14:29:17
Don't worry about it. Antony's only gone until the end of the season and nobody wants Rashford at his price. Quite possibly no team will match the valuation Utd need to make selling Garnacho worthwhile. If Amorim goes soon the next manager will also be stuck with them.
4.) 24 Jan 2025 15:27:41
Players can adapt and learn to play in a system just like amad is showing, he is as you say a natural forward but looks at ease playing as both wing back and SS
In some aspects the 2 players behind the striker still play as a winger as you seen last night garnacho was hogging the line and the wing back often came inside underlapping and zirkzee was often dropping to link so the 2 wide players made the runs behind
The main players for this system are the wingbacks if we get those sorted the players infront won’t be an issue weather it’s a winger/ wide forward or inside forwards/ ss
The players have to be comfortable playing in multiple positions in a team.
5.) 24 Jan 2025 22:01:01
Very very simplistic I know but I still do not get why we do not/ cannot put the ball into the box? We faff about trying to walk it into the net. It isn’t working!
One cross and bang we score a goal. There’s a hint right there! We keep stating that we need wingers/ wingbacks but until we use them to do a job then they are just another player on the park with zero direction.
We have collectively slated players like Weghorst, Hoijland etc but as yet have never really provided a reliable service for them to live or die by.
I just want football I can watch and be excited by. going to be a long wait but I shall persevere.
6.) 24 Jan 2025 23:42:07
weather?
7.) 25 Jan 2025 00:23:28
When wide, our players look up and see hoylund and then look for a cut back or second option. We need to be more prepared to play simple football in the final third and then the spaces will open up.
Amorim stacked his sporting team with wingers who were creative and could carry with pace. That is why I'm not a fan of selling garna, he is young and could develop into one of the roles.
8.) 25 Jan 2025 05:55:23
Got enough whingers.
09 Aug 2024 08:28:12
How's everyone feeling about tomorrow? Anyone place any kind of importance on the Community Shield?
1.) 09 Aug 2024 08:50:18
It’s a pre season friendly for me, nice to win it but it’s more to see where the squad is at
Personally I’m not confident as again we have players missing and we have a much weaker squad than when we finished the season
As long as the performance is promising and we see an actual pattern to our play.
2.) 09 Aug 2024 09:08:47
No more confident than I was before the FA Cup Final, which was 50/ 50 for me.
I like the buzz of the first unofficial game of the season, but it can't be taken as a benchmark with the players barely breaking a sweat and many still vying for moves away.
Bizarrely considering our woes at CB last season we've now got two LESS players in this position (factoring in Yoro's injury) .
I do think we have a more professional team of people dealing with transfers etc but I also think they could have been a bit more decisive and moved on to other targets quicker. If we end up with any of the names that have been circulating for weeks then all well and good but if not it's just de Jong v.2.
3.) 09 Aug 2024 09:14:43
Same as above. If we get a couple of injuries then we are in big trouble. Squad actually weaker than last season especially at cb and cm.
4.) 09 Aug 2024 09:41:16
You do know the season starts the week after?
If we don’t know where the squad is at, given that apart from 2 players coming in, is the same, then we are in real trouble!
5.) 09 Aug 2024 10:16:00
I think we'll get at least 2nd place tomorrow, I can't see us doing any worse than that ?.
6.) 09 Aug 2024 10:35:16
I think there is importance to the game, always have.
It counts for nothing but there is a little prestige and a lot of confidence to be gained.
Should be about fine tuning at this point of pre season but we are miles off just having to fine tune.
7.) 09 Aug 2024 12:31:23
I know a lot of people have said it doesn't matter, maybe but a good performance gives momentum into the season, and bad performance and all the old questions from the end of last season come flooding back.
We have a lot of first team players whom have only just come back to training, and our first choice transfers seem to have stalled over the last few weeks.
I expect we will see them same inconsistencies as last year with EtH saying he hasn't been able to pick his strongest 11 because of injuries and tournaments.
8.) 09 Aug 2024 13:27:37
I feel like we have a fragile positive mood around the club at the minute. Obviously plenty to work on, but generally people are optimistic. New season, new coaches, new management. but i really don't think it will take much for us to revert back to the mood of the end of last season.
For that reason, I think tomorrow is quite important. It would be nice to de-stabilise the pep trophy train and build some scrutiny on the blues.
9.) 09 Aug 2024 13:50:30
Both teams have a number of players yet to play a game in pre season yet, it will be a good game to get some minutes in the legs of anyone that didn’t go on tour for both sides, the game means nothing in the grand scheme of things but I’m looking forward to seeing the best players back in the team and seeing what Zirkzee has to offer.
City lost the last 3 community shields and then went on to win the league so not sure it counts for much in momentum either.
10.) 09 Aug 2024 17:52:59
It’s City! Not a pre season friendly! Doesn’t matter the situation. Hopefully the players understand that as much as all us supporters do!
24 Apr 2024 12:42:02
Buzzing to be in another cup final. We will be underdogs but definitely in with a shout. City are human. can't say there's much positivity around the team at the moment but we have players capable of big moments which i think we will have to rely on as we can't expect to dominate the game. Chance for someone to become a hero and add another trophy to the cabinet - massive opportunity!
1.) 24 Apr 2024 15:39:55
01jamham2 - what makes you think we have a shout we struggled badly against a championship team should have lost the game and would have if VAR did not intervene, i think we might get battered and it might be the biggest loss ever in a cup final. We are truly awful at the moment.
2.) 24 Apr 2024 16:11:03
Thats the spirit!
I agree we haven't been good recently, but sometimes the underdog can have a good game. On form, I expect a city win - but anything can happen and there's a lot of talent in our squad.
3.) 24 Apr 2024 16:33:25
I agree we were lucky dio and could have easily lost the game, but I think to say we struggled badly is a bit of an overstatement.
We controlled the game quite comfortably for 70 minutes and allowed them an easy goal from too much space. Their second goal came from a horrible deflection and their penalty was a controversial handball, given the appeals and lack of consistency from VAR from other games over the weekend.
I'm not trying to downplay the issues, but Coventry had huge momentum in the game through desire and had a great tactician in Mark Robins. We were naive to assume they would just roll over and accept defeat at 3-0 down, their previous game against Wolves is evidence they will fight to the last breath.
4.) 24 Apr 2024 16:35:18
Dio, we were very good for 70 or so minutes Vs Coventry. We just broke down completely at the end. Saying we struggled and should have lost doesn't really paint the full picture now does it. Any other day we win by three or more goals. Anything can happen in the final. City are massive favourites and all pressure is on them.
12 Aug 2024 07:55:34
People get carried away slating McTominay. He's really versatile, understands his role and follows the managers instructions.
Only a couple of months ago he started the FA Cup final.
I imagine he maintains an intensity in training which helps set a good example and raise standards. He has done plenty of tough post match interviews. A really good pro, and an academy product.
If he wants to leave to fulfill personal ambitions, I would wish him well; but I'm certainly not ushering him out the club.
As Eddie Howe recently pointed out, PSR rules may have good intentions, but they also make it beneficial for clubs to sell their homegrown talents - which can't be right and needs looking at.
26 Jul 2024 08:10:11
I'm a fan - think he'd be a great fit.
22 Jul 2024 13:42:38
If you consider that we didn't have enough CBs last year (see Casemiro playing CB), We have lost Kambwala and replaced/ upgraded with Yoro (prospect ready to play first team games) . Varane (starter) has left and not been replaced - so i would see de Ligt as filling the Varane slot, bringing us back to as many capable CBs as last season, which wasn't enough (granted - bit of a freak with number of injuries) . Lindelof also covered (tried to) a bit at LB last year (as did Amrabat, who won't be staying), and there doesn't seem to be strong links to a new LB so his perceived versatility may count in his favour.
19 Jul 2024 08:51:54
We certainly seem more ruthless and clinical don't we. Would just temper the expectations of Zirkzee Yoro and (potentially) Ugarte. I haven't seen evidence they are necessarily starting quality for us. Not trying to be negative about them, as I'm pleased to have them at the club; but I'm not getting carried away.
20 May 2025 08:55:26
If Utd win against spurs they qualify for Champions League. We would qualify by being the CHAMPIONS of the Europa League - which we only qualified for by being CHAMPIONS of the FA Cup. Which happened the year after we were CHAMPIONS of the League Cup.
Not many clubs more worthy in my opinion.
11 Mar 2025 13:53:53
Evans was relied upon by ETH but seems RA will not renew his deal (no comms but he doesn't use him) .
Recent news about Lindelof wanting to return to Benfica.
When playing 3 CBs at any given time we ideally have 5 fit (subs/ rotation), so to cover injuries I think we would like 6 reliable CBs in the squad:
1. de Ligt
2. Yoro
3. Mazraoui
4. Martinez
5. Maguire (for 1 season)
6. Heaven
As above - I think we can cope with losing Evans and Lindelof. It remains to be seen what happens with Shaw, but he has previously played CB in a 3. If anyone was to be signed, I'd assume a youngster targeted as long term Maguire replacement. Other positions will be prioritised I expect, as you say DonRed.
13 Dec 2024 10:30:30
I'm looking forward to it too mate, but don't think either team will have high expectations. Will leave tactics to the boss but it would be great for Hojlund to have an impact. I've been critical of his ability but recently it seems we have begun to rely on him. I hope he can become a success.
12 Aug 2024 08:06:37
I'm excited - never watched him in great detail but he's got a good pedigree and stacks of experience, including winning titles.
First signing we've (nearly) made that goes into the starting XI?
12 Aug 2024 08:00:13
I'm chuffed he's staying. He's been our best player since the moment he signed - and that hasn't changed.
Also love that he can produce moments that get you out of your seat. Awesome assists and great shooter.