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17 Jul 2017 11:03:42
So current rumour is that we will move for Kroos as part of the discussions withRM about DDG.
So, if available should we get him, does he offer the best style to complement Pogba/ harera or do we truly need a Matic HM.


1.) 17 Jul 2017 12:11:09
Kroos better player but Matic will suit our system better, plus Moo Moo knows him and will do what he's told. Prem proven.

2.) 17 Jul 2017 12:53:25
Toni Kroos won't come mate. Best chance we had was a few years ago before he moved to Mardid.

3.) 17 Jul 2017 13:23:41

That isn't what we have heard previously from Ed002.

4.) 17 Jul 2017 13:56:56
GDS2 - Sorry, what have I missed and where is it?

5.) 17 Jul 2017 14:13:18
If there was an acceptance ddg was leaving it would be a big call not to take kroos if it shown to be possible, played for some good sides but made them better a serial trophy winner, you'd need a pretty special side not to fit him in, not realy a destroyer though but offers massive control of a game against good sides to imo.

6.) 17 Jul 2017 18:01:24
I'd take Kroos all day long and there's no reason at all a midfield 3 of Kroos, Herrera and Pogba wouldn't work. I get what people are saying about what Matic would bring but there's no need for that if the opposition can't get the ball off us.

7.) 17 Jul 2017 19:28:39
Kroos is one of the best centre mids in the world and played really well under Mourinho. If there is any chance of getting him in the DDG transfer we should go all out for him. Kroos, Herrera and Pogba as a 3 would be scary.

8.) 17 Jul 2017 19:29:38
I said this at the beginning of the summer and got bashed by a few saying he can't play in a 3 man midfield.
For me he's the best in the business, I've watched him pick teams apart for Madrid. If it meant getting Matic too I'd do it. If a truley world class player becomes available to us we should get him in.g

9.) 17 Jul 2017 22:07:26
Kroos was playing in a 3 man midfield all last season with Modric and Casemiro and was brilliant.

10.) 17 Jul 2017 22:36:41
I'd buy both Kroos and Matic then sell Fellaini.

That would be a massive upgrade to the squad.



25 May 2017 19:09:59
Rumours that the three options for CB Lindelof, Keane or Van Djilk. Who do you guys feel would better suite.
For me it would be Van Djilk as I think he is a leader and would be great alongside Bailly. I Like Keane but worry it would be too soon, not seen any of Lindelof to judge.


1.) 25 May 2017 19:50:32
haven't seen lidlof either except on youtube since we have been linked with him. Vdijk looks good, fast, big and strong and seems to get his head on everything both ends of the pitch -out of those 3 he would be first choice. silly money of course.

2.) 25 May 2017 19:53:17
VVD is not worth the price, keane is not good enough to start for us, lindelof isn't much better but he has a high ceiling, would love a double swoop for semedo and lindelof.

3.) 25 May 2017 20:51:52
VVD out of the 3. He's one of the top 3 centre backs in the PL.

{Ed004's Note - It would be between Lindelof and Van Dijk for me. I'm edging towards Van Dijk because of his power in the air, physical attributes and being premiership proven. I think he could form a perfect partnership with Bailly. It would be nice to be a threat from set pieces again}

4.) 25 May 2017 21:58:58
None of the above.

5.) 25 May 2017 22:09:05
I think comes down to value for money. Keane should stay at Burnley for at another 18 months. He certainly has potential. Perhaps cut a deal with Burnley to buy him and then loan him back.
Lindelof is an unknown, just Like Bailly. I've see Youtube clips etc.
VVD looks very good and would compliment Bailly. He is as ED004 says prem proven. Keane isn't quite there yet. However if he plays well in the next two England games then his price will rise.

6.) 25 May 2017 22:02:38
Couldnt agree more ED004, over recent years we seem to have lost the threat of our CBs coming forward for corners ala Vidic, pally, bruce, rio, stam etc etc, fair play to smalling last night for his assist but we used to be a real threat in days gone by with our cbs.

{Ed004's Note - Maybe that's why by reports we seem to be looking at Dier ahead of Fabinho and the links with Van Dijk and Keane. Two of them along with Pogba and Bailly would give us good height}

7.) 25 May 2017 23:54:44
I would love Van Dijk but we may have competition for him, same goes for Fabinho. I don't see Tottenham selling any of their key players this summer, just my opinion.

8.) 26 May 2017 03:08:12
i would like to bring in alderweireld from spurs.

9.) 26 May 2017 05:37:25

When Spurs signed for £7million I thought why the hell didn't we try and buy him. He'd cost £50 million now. Bargain buy for Spurs. Top class CB.

10.) 26 May 2017 09:36:58
Thing is with Spurs, they brought in players like Alder, Alli, Wanyama for little money - but they play them every week. We sign players for 3X-5X that and keep them on the bench or play them sporadically.

We'd pay £25m for Keane and use him in rotation. We need nailed down 100% starters for the money we are going to undoubtedly spend, otherwise it's a Depay/ Martial/ Schneiderlin type waste.

Godin for me.

11.) 26 May 2017 09:44:27
If this is the CB's that we are looking to strengthen with then I am slightly disappointed. Personally, I would have liked to have seen a world class CB come in, someone like Bonucci. I know VVD is being touted as the next big thing, I don't know anything about the Swedish guy, Keane, I am not convinced is good enough either. I was hoping that if there is a deal for DDG to go to Madrid, that they would have had some clout to be able to try and sort out a deal for someone like Varane.

12.) 26 May 2017 09:46:03
Agree with Beast here, a consistent line up breeds success.

13.) 26 May 2017 11:17:23
If Jose is the master at one thing it's picking out defenders. Whoever we buy will fit in well. Perhaps Rojo has convinced him and Blind has looked very able there
too? We need one more to replace Smalling.

Keane or VVD for me please Jose. It's the full back positions where we need the serious investment and another midfielder to replace Carrick. I'll be well chuffed with Greizeman though!

If Keane re-joins, we just need to go back for Welbeck now to show just how clueless LVG was!

14.) 26 May 2017 12:40:49
I'll keep my answer simple enough.

Has to be Van Dijk, he's the best of the three.

15.) 26 May 2017 16:28:43
Agree Harry, before his injury he was the best CB in the prem. Would be a decent partner for Bailly for the next 7-8 years.



04 May 2017 13:32:01
Willian getting another link to us. It shows that we are likely to add an additional attacker as well as a striker. I for one would take him as he will fit straight into Jose system.


1.) 04 May 2017 14:49:54
I think there is a chance of this being true.

2.) 04 May 2017 18:14:13
I would welcome him if it wasnt silly money. Like a lot of fast attacking players he is one of those who can get you off your seat but also frustrate you when he beats 2 players and over hits a cross time and again- but in the main he has improved a lot at Chelsea and on his day is class - then again so was Nani but I've seen us linked with lesser players recently.

3.) 04 May 2017 22:23:11
Always good for a goal, great on set pieces and a player trusts. He was phenomenal last season for Chelsea.

Far better than any right sided option we have. Willian right, Mkhitaryan in the middle and Martial left is very likely behind Rashford or a new striker.

I don't think we will see a Griezmann and Belotti double buy. That's fantasy. Rashford is hugely impressive though right now and is doing all of the right things. You could easily envisage Griezmann playing off of Rashford with Ibra to come back into the fold when fit.

4.) 05 May 2017 16:33:46
I agree fresh. Personally wouldn't touch belotti at the prices quoted.



10 Apr 2017 22:05:43
Looks like Pogba is good mates with Lukaku. could he be using that friendship to bring him in next year?


1.) 11 Apr 2017 07:37:17
It might be the other way round ;)



01 Apr 2017 20:34:21
I am remaining positive for the season as a whole. We are making progress and whilst the past 3 years feels like a transition this season is also one.
That said i do want to ask those that get to watch more games than I do, what are we missing that will make us click.

Is it the clinical striker as we say that we are making lots of chances, is it the player that will pick the pass from deep in the Kroos mould. Is it our lack of high energy as some have intimated before when comparing our play to the scousers.
We can all talk about 5/ 6 players coming but are we really that far off.


1.) 01 Apr 2017 21:07:49
Decent questions to consider. Carrick looked old today, barely escaping pressure, and not making any penetrative passes. But that may also been down to the attackers coming back for the ball too much.

We did win the ball back today throughout the match, but adding a few players to allow us to play more a high energy style can only be a good thing. I think another good box-to-box MF would help, as well as a dynamic left back if Mourinho does not want to use Shaw.

We do lack a clinical finisher. One observation about Rashford is that as a #9, he can stretch defenses with his pace, but against defenses that sit deep, he is not that effective as a center forward. He is not a physical presence, nor is he a goal poacher just yet. Once he gets away from the congested area, then he becomes more dangerous, with his pace and fine ability on the ball.

2.) 01 Apr 2017 22:56:28
Carrick looked the same last season against West Brom and the season before. Our squad players just aren't good enough much like our young pretenders. They have been vastly overrated, mainly due to having little else to feel good about. We're still a couple of windows off a good side yet. The only think to really take from the last fews years is how not to do it. Putting in two bizarre managerial choices instead of going for top managers as other top teams do put us back at least 3 years and around £400m. Hopefully we have now learned but the money needs to be spent again, hopefully with Mou in charge to reassert us. We've some promise no question but it ain't the youth players i'm afraid. We're shouldn't be looking to beat Pool and Arsenail to top four we should be looking to dominate like the other Euro giants. Not an easy task granted but possible, but for the implosion I reckon Chelsea would have won 3 on the bounce.

3.) 02 Apr 2017 09:03:58
I think it is our lack of width, both Rashford and Martial proved last year they could be clinical. Mata and Mkhitaryan are also pretty clinical when presented with a chance.

I think the issue we are having with scoring is that opposition full backs are able to play very narrow against us as the players who typically fill the wide positions for us all prefer to cut inside and are predictable. This is limiting the space and leading to us having to shoot in a crowded area limiting the target area we have to shoot at. This lack of space means many of our shots have to be rushed, or are blocked or simply can only be shot straight at the keeper.

When our wide options include Rashford and Martial who are both natural strikers. Or Mata, Mkhitaryan or Lingard who are No.10's by trade then obviously our forward options are going to be quite narrow.

What we need is overlapping full backs to drag opposition full backs wide to create space in and inside channels for our forward players to attack, this will either force the centre backs out wide to cover the space thus creating space behind them if they allow players like Mata, Mkhitaryan and Martial to waltz into the box unchallenged.

The lack of quality in these wide areas are imo a large part of why Valencia has had such an impact this season. As he is literally the only one doing that.

Thats why for me the four most important positions we need to fill are two new full backs, followed by a true holding midfield partner for Pogba, then an centre back of quality to be Bailly's long term partner. If we can get those four players then I'm sure you would see a far more productive United side next season.




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24 Aug 2019 19:37:32
Have not had chance to see more than you tube highlights of first three games so was wondering if someone could give me an honest view of what is happening, especially as we seem to have played the same or similar team in all 3.
Depending on who you read we are either progressing well or no different to last year.
Thanks all.


{Ed0666's Note - be careful what you wish for mate and be greatful you only watch highlights. For me plus points are Martial, Rashford, James. Negatives I haven’t got all day. What I will say is if Ole finishes the season as united manager I’ll be flabbergasted.

1.) 24 Aug 2019 20:11:16
Depends on want you want to hear,
You can hear the truth on here or a load of boloxology.

2.) 24 Aug 2019 20:45:37
Sounds brutal but probably true Ed0666. I want to stay positive as I think its still early days but I thought we would hit the ground running and it may catch up with us after 7-10 games. Feels like we are struggling already even if certain ares are improved.
Leahy, I'm a glass half full rather than empty person but also realist. Not into twisted fake positivity which is why I thought I would ask on here as the message is Always slanted with pundits and papers dependent on who the writer or pundit is.

3.) 24 Aug 2019 21:01:49
Brad here is my honest opinion.
We really should have won all 3 games. But we didn't because iur players are simply not good enough to take their chances.
Ddg. Not playing well beaten twice at his near post today. He has been shakey for club and country now for over a year.
AWB. Has been solid looks a very good signing.
Lindelof and maguire. It will take time bad as a pair for the first goal today.
Shaw. Looks to be injured again. Has did ok in the first 2 games.
Notsoyoung. Hopefully dalot will be back soon.
Pogba. He was poor all game today but sparked the equaliser but cost us their winner. That sums him up really. A couple of decent flashes punctuated by moments of stupidity. Should have been sold i wouldn't be against selling him if madrid make an offer next week.
Mctom. Doing ok solid. Has to be given more time.
Pierera. Average joe.
Lingard. Has been very poor well below the reqired standard.
Mata. Hardly had a kick.
Fred. Not made a squad.
Dalot not made a squad
Smalling not made a squad
Jones not made a squad.
Greenwood hardly had a kick
Dan james been the best of the summer signings
Gomes not made a squad
Rashford been good at times wasteful at times what you expect from a young forward.
Martial same as rashford but a lot better than last season.
Matic not made the pitch yet
Chong hardly had a kick.

The football is boring uninspiring and insipid.
Ole is spouting the same old lines to the media.
Our midfield selection for the 2 spots are matic finished. Fred missing in action. Pogba who doesn't want to be here and mctom who is learning on the job.
Our no 10 options are the technically inept lingard the aging mata or pierera who can't play there or gomez who does not look ready yet and is still a child really.
Our right wing options are
Midfielder mata. Midfielder lingard left winger james

The way i see it is we will win games when it all clicks and lose games against crap teams because we are going to be woefully inconsistent.
2 of the 3 games we have hardly registered a shot on target. Wolves and palace keepers hardly had to make a save.

The real positives have been the new signings in fact along with martial they have been our best 4 players.

All we can do is hope that we improve as the seadon goes on.
But so far its been the reverse of that.
Good against Chelsea
Average against wolves
Appalling against palace
3 wins in our last 15 games tells its own story.
Brad. Stick to youtube check in in a couple of months and well let you know if its safe to come out from behind the couch. 😂
I think ole will do well to survive that long to be honest.

4.) 25 Aug 2019 08:36:18
Precise and to the point there ken. I certainly can't argue with any of that.

5.) 24 Aug 2019 19:48:01
Are there 665 eds now? Welcome 666.

{Ed0666's Note - Thankyou DSG. I was eds333 but kept getting mistaken for Ed’s 033 so I thought I’d go full devil.



09 Aug 2019 16:39:36
So now we turn our attention to Sunday and I am more than a little intrigued to see who our captain will be. Will it stay with the the old guard and be given to Matic/ Young/ Mata should any of them play (lets hope not), will it go to De Gea/ Lindelof as one of the defensice units guaranteed starters or will it go to Pogba as part of the charm offensive to get the best out of him and commit to us for the season.
Personally I would be happy with either of De Gea or Pogba.


1.) 09 Aug 2019 16:52:13
I think DDG will get it on the day.

2.) 09 Aug 2019 17:15:32
Well Young is club captain, so if he plays he will be captain.

DDG has worn it during pre-season when Young wasn't on the pitch.

So it's likely to be him. Of course if Ole is trying to placate Pogba over not getting his move he might make him captain to give him a "new challenge".

3.) 09 Aug 2019 17:34:27
Maguire will be the captain at the end of the season.

4.) 09 Aug 2019 17:40:04
Under no circumstances should Pogba be given the armband.

5.) 09 Aug 2019 18:00:31
Should be DDG all day.

6.) 09 Aug 2019 19:18:08
Ddg for me. I don't thnk young will start.
Awb lindelof maguire shaw
Mctom PP
James jessie martial
Romero young tuanzebe periera fred greenwood mata.

7.) 09 Aug 2019 20:47:57
Does anyone see McSauce as a future skipper?

8.) 09 Aug 2019 20:56:55
If he carries on in the same vein Mort, very much so. I prefer the captain to be the driving force in the middle of the park.

9.) 10 Aug 2019 02:16:57
He certainly has the potential to be the captain it’s up to him now.

10.) 10 Aug 2019 08:24:48
If he progresses as much this year as he did last year then yes.



28 Jul 2019 12:55:06
After my annual weekend trip with the father in law I feel more content with our club than ever (this tends to happen when we get time to catch up and properly talk about the club we love) .
He reminds me that we don't have a devine in right to win things, that over the 70 years he has followed the club there has been as many farrow periods as successful ones and we should be grateful for Sir Matt and Sir Alex not expect this to be our norm.
He talks of owners as merely current guardians some good some bad but of the fans as the true owners who are there across ownerships, good and bad times.
He talks about Liverpool as our fircest rival yet greatest comparison and almost talks in affectionate tones hoping for a Time when both clubs are at there peaks at the same time to enjoy this as a proper rivalry.
And currently he talks about the world being so impatient that unless we see action immediately we despair rather than patiently wait to see what is to come.
For what it's worth he thinks OGS will be good for the club and will lead us in the right direction even if ultimately he moves on. He likes the current strategy and believes that there will be 3 more ins CD, CM x2 before our window closes. He believes these will all happen before any outgoings as all of these will be to European clubs and can happen after our window closes and this is in preperation of Pogba going.
He thinks our youth will flourish if given a chance and told to make mistakes by the club without fear of instantly being dropped (Greenwood and Tuanzebe his current favourites)
Ultimately we just need to be patient and no matter what the team is the fans and Old Trafford can be a 12th man for the team not a weight round there shoulders like in previous years.
Sorry for long post. But we had a lot to talk about this weekend. Keep positive all.


1.) 28 Jul 2019 13:50:07
Sounds like he has his head screwed on your father in law does.

Maybe you should encourage him to post on here.

2.) 28 Jul 2019 15:20:09
Definitely head screwed on but techno phobe. Internet and mobile phones are not for him. Anything he needs to know he will pick up the phone to us and get us to look for him!

3.) 28 Jul 2019 15:26:04
Maybe invite him to join the board.

4.) 28 Jul 2019 18:04:48
Need such experienced people to post on the page for constructive arguments Brad.



15 Jul 2019 12:04:44
If we could get Maguire and 1 CM in this week (ideally Fernandes possibly longstaff) I think that will be it for a while until we see what happens with Pogba/ Lukaku. Whether this is right or not I think that would be 4 in so need outs to offset future purchases.
Risk will be the European window closing after ours so hopefully its before ours or not this summer and all concerned appreciate this. Not how it works probably but here's hoping.




09 Jul 2019 13:56:48
Any thoughts on whether Erikson would fit how OGS is looking to play next year and if so could he and Fernandes play together.
I know spurs are a nightmare to deal with but the moves they are making suggest they are planning for life after Erikson after he commented he could leave.


1.) 09 Jul 2019 14:15:46
Tbf to eriksen he did quite well last season when he was asked to drop deeper for spurs. But that seemed more of an emergency stop gap due to dembele moving to china, wanyama being crocked and winks getting injured.

Still seems to be a normal number 10/ attacking midfielder like fernandes. He would be a much better buy than fernandes who will need time to settle and most of hus output did come at a lower level.

Eriksen could slot in immediately behind rashford and martial in the attacking midfield role pogba will vacate and fill huge chance creation hole that pogba will leave behind.

2.) 09 Jul 2019 15:04:12
I have always liked Erikson DSG and would have liked us to get him before he went to Spurs. I think he could play well in either a 433 as part of the AM 2 as the front midfielder in a 4231. What interested me was the discussion around 4222 and whether Erikson could form the 2 AM's with 2 of Matic/ Longstaff/ McTomany behind.
I am disapointed we did not push for Tielmans but have faith we will get where we need to come the season beginning.

3.) 09 Jul 2019 15:52:43
Sorry but Erikson is past his best. He’s too slow, we need young hungry players.

4.) 09 Jul 2019 16:11:03
Brad, Eriksen could certainly play as one of the advanced midfielders in a 4222 type system. The two advanced midfielders in that system are ideally a cross between wingers and No.10's players who can go outside or cut in, but players who have quality on the ball and can control the attack.

Eriksen has on many occasions played in one of the wider roles of a 4231 at Spurs, which often looked more like a lopsided 4222 with Son often pushing on as a loose striker on the left and Eriksen tucking in slightly on the right to allow Trippier space on the overlap, with Alli moving slightly left so he can then cut in more central onto his right foot to shoot.

5.) 09 Jul 2019 16:22:15
BR, Eriksen often covers more ground than any other player on the pitch.

He tackles and intercepts high up the pitch and keeps the ball well when in possession.

He wants to move to a top club no doubt to win trophies.

I'm not sure his hunger can be questioned.

6.) 09 Jul 2019 16:37:36
Is he another that goes slightly missing in the bigger games? I've seen it mentioned on the spurs site a few times i personally can't say I've watched enough to notice.

7.) 09 Jul 2019 16:59:02
Agree totally that in the biggest games he often does do enough. When did you see him dominate top class opposition or haul spurs back into a match from a losing position against a really top team. Not often enough for me.

8.) 09 Jul 2019 20:33:39
Sounds like he would be a good fit and replacement for Pogba and could suit OGS. Whether he is the perfect player could be debatable but he does seem to have hunger and for me could be the ideal person with a young team around him.
Other than players unobtainable I would happily have Erikson and Fernandes as Pogba replacements.

9.) 09 Jul 2019 22:49:32
Past his best at 27 😂😂 Jesus Christ! He had better retire then he's lost it and his career is over. Absolute shocking player.

10.) 10 Jul 2019 06:01:15
Christian Erikson is top top class.
Always wants the ball, passes forward with purpose, works hard for the team, delivers quality set pieces.

{Ed001's Note - do you think so? I think he is massively overrated and goes missing when put under pressure. In easy games he is great, but when it actually matters he is terrible, like in the Champions League final. So long as he has plenty of time and space to pick a pass, he is a good passer, but he just falls apart when closed down. He is one of the main reasons Spurs fail when it matters imo.}

11.) 10 Jul 2019 06:41:14
Agree with you Ed that his impact reduces when suffocated.
But whenever I watch Spurs, Erikson always looks to make something
Because of Spurs's lack of quality in central midfield, he often drops deep and demands the ball.
If he stays, Ndombele could potentially bring the best out of him.

{Ed001's Note - I am not sure how Ndombele will do that, he is really not that kind of midfielder. It is not Spurs' lack of quality that sees him drop deep, it is his own inability to cope under pressure that sees him choose to drop deeper to try and get time and space. Then he lacks the ability to pick the passes required from the deeper position. He just isn't that good.}

12.) 10 Jul 2019 07:35:38
Cheers Ed. Interesting views from your perspective.




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06 Feb 2020 13:34:25
Inter could be a sleeper for Pogba if they have the money. Previous with the manager I think.




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05 Feb 2020 11:07:17
Gomez and Chong are dissaponted but that is based on promise not actions. On the whole I have no problem with any of that list leaving.
Creates financial room and space in the 25 to bring in new blood or move up some under 23s.
To be honest it is one of her positives Olly shoukd be praised for his strength to move players on, despite the club wanting to hold on certain circumstances.


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31 Jan 2020 23:32:05
At least we have accepted we needed additional support up front, he apparently is in good form for country. Don't think option to buy but who knows if he does well.
As a back up for Martial with Greenwood he could be a good addition.
Low risk, just start summer planning now with the Euros I think we need to do our work early.




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14 Jan 2020 18:49:58
It unlikely however if it is true none of us should moan. Most were calling for him in the summer.
Always questions around if a purchase is the right fit but he would absolutely improve our defense no matter who he is paired with.




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18 Oct 2019 10:23:07
Always loved Blanc as a player and thought he was a good manager. Ed002 has been consistent in mentioning him for us for some time now.
I think if OGS leaves Allegri may be the favoured one. Interesting if he does come what he gets out of Pogba if he's still here.





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15 Feb 2020 10:52:10
I'm a big fan, but then I have always liked the players that do the dirty work and not always get the praise.
Is he world class, no one is saying that. Is he very good and makes other players better yes.
For me he is similar to Jordan Henderson a few years back, criticised by fans but loved by managers who appreciate what he does.




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06 Feb 2020 13:31:45
Sell and move on. We will be in the same position down the line when it is not going his way.
The club has not provided the team he was probably promised, he in turn has not played as we had hoped. It's time for both to part ways.
I think it's a shame Mctominy got injured, a 3 of Fernandes, Fred and Mctominy could have been decent for the last few months of the season.




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29 Jan 2020 15:43:30
On the basis we will not get the future players we want with a few days to go I am only interested In loans. That means we are looking at lower end players who can do a soa e and may have upside without blocking Greenwood. In that case Slimani makes sense to me without a long term commitment because who knows what that is for us.




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27 Jan 2020 19:58:52
Don't we tend to scout and show an interest in one window. And only buy that player in the following one.
So look for who we are talking about now and that's our summer purchase.
Did urgently needed.




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25 Jan 2020 19:36:05
I think this is the clear out that Ole intimated in the summer which did whatever reason never fully happened. For all his faults he is at least looking to clear those we see as deadwood.