06 Mar 2024 13:55:51
In his last game against Watford, he says:
“The team talk at half time was about whoever wants to play can play, and get your hand up if you don’t want to play. ”
The players subbed off were Rashford and McTominay.
They’re still here today. The players who came on - Martial and Van de Beek.
Pogba was the only player to visit Ole after he got sacked.
Interesting.
06 Mar 2024 15:51:05
Carrick dropped Rashford for the next game too.
06 Mar 2024 16:57:28
He’s a waster
Get rid asap
I’m 99% certain though the mug will still be here next season and we’ll still be on about the same issues with him
He makes my blood boil.
06 Mar 2024 17:02:54
I've just heard ole say in an interview
Bringing ronaldo back didn't work out for me, it didn't work out for ronaldo and it didn't work out for the club, but I'm still convinced it was the right decision to bring him back.
Dear oh dear oh dear. Make of that what you will.
06 Mar 2024 17:10:40
I’m not sure if I’m reading the OP correctly.
Two players put their hand up to indicate they do not want to play?
06 Mar 2024 17:24:12
He used to ask the players who wanted to play every week and if more than 11 said yes he used to hold a raffle ??
Ole and his shadow = Dumb and dumber.
06 Mar 2024 17:26:57
It is an interview with G Nev, was it on overlap? Probably best to watch, listen wazza and make your own interpretation - better than getting the filtered version.
06 Mar 2024 18:40:29
I listened earlier, Ole came across extremely well, no surprise you picked up a negative about him Ken. Listening properly it’s clear he meant that the other option of him going to City meant we had to get him at the time. It’s really worth a listen Wazza, his relationship with Neville and Keane makes it really clear why none of them even really called him out when we were struggling, Keane even went to stay with him in Norway after he got sacked.
Very interesting that Ole pushed for us to sign Haaland for £20m and the club said they hadn’t done enough scouting of him.
If you really try Ken you might even find something good out of it.
06 Mar 2024 19:29:37
He was always a popular player gds2. That was a proper team. They all still respect each other as team mates.
The club screwed up all over the place. But ole ruined what we had (which wasn't great) and ruined a lot more to boot imo as you know.
Listening to him not once did he take any accountability or responsibility for the way things turned out. Its no wonder anybody that played for him turned out like a limp lettuce. He is pathetic. Always the victim, it was the clubs fault for this the players fault for that. What about you ole? The leader?
So gds2 I'll admit my bias as I've always done with him.
I see traits in him as a manager that I just don't like.
Stand up and take responsibility for your actions.
06 Mar 2024 20:41:41
The flip side is that Ole mentioned the players knew and had the feeling it would be his last game because of how the match had gone. Some players crying, some angry etc but for him to mention that he asked the question and that was who he subbed is worth noting. Those two remain and some applaud their efforts, goals etc. We need to move on from these kind of players if we want to close the gap. From an FFP perspective selling Raahford and McTominay would be brilliant but I feel they will stick around. Our squad is full of players who have downed tools under previous managers and got them sacked. I do feel a bit sorry for the manager as he’s not had a chance to work under a proper structure and still did very well last year. Injuries have hurt us badly this season but we don’t have the replacements to play the football he wants. I would be all for giving him a chance under the new ownership. He’s had the squad a while and knows who we need to get rid of and who to keep. He’s not afraid to drop players and discipline them. Reports of players moaning about days off and being working extra hard in training. It’s exactly what they need to be doing though. We can’t close the gap without the basics of hard work and effort. It’s the bare minimum and the players aren’t giving that.
06 Mar 2024 20:55:16
Amz. But seriously don’t the standard of the players he bought or loaned have you worried a little, if he thinks they are good enough which he must do, he wanted them and he thinks we are on the way up and closing in on the top teams, it concerns me what he thinks the level required is, that’s a huge concern
Out of all he bought in, what’s of required standard, Martinez and Rasmus maybe but long way to go for him, the rest have not been very good at all and even if some were not injured which fill you with excitement that could get us challenging again… we now been surpassed by Villa and Spurs and you can’t say there teams filled with anything special, yes we had injuries but so is everyone else, it’s part and parcel of the game, even last year with no injuries football was poor and could not score… I just don’t see anything from him that warrants another game let alone year, but it’s clear he gone at end of season, I would not care or doubt the players would if it’s tomorrow.
06 Mar 2024 21:48:00
I agree that all the signings haven’t worked out but we’re not in a position like city or Liverpool who have long term managers in place with a settled squad. They can add 1 or 2 major signings a year and integrate them successfully. We have to take the risk and are in a position where we always need to buy not just first team players but also squad players. We don’t end up selling who we need to and it’s rinse and repeat. The chances of every signing being successful are slim. Combine that with the amounts being spent and wages being handed out, the environment these new signings come into, the chances increase of signings being a failure. With a proper structure and “football” people in place, would the manager have had as much say? Would the chances of our signings being successful increase?
06 Mar 2024 21:48:11
You see traits in him you don't like Tumble, you annihilate everything about him and have done from way back. Starting to get the same vibe with your view of Eth. No problem, it's just a bit unnecessary to keep labouring the point. I always liked Ole and I don't see how anyone could hate him as much as you do.
06 Mar 2024 23:55:49
I am seeing him in a different light in the interview.
The job is impossible imo.
Moyes, Lvg, Mourinho, Ole and Eth have failed, I'd say they are from different backgrounds and successes and nobody has gotten our team to perform well over 2 successive years.
The rebuild should be now and it should mean within 2-3 years maybe 4-5 of these players should be around.
I don't see us winning anything soon, and the club should be open to ripping things apart even if it means you keep Evans another year or play academy lads than you should need to.
10 senior players departures should be the minimum and nobody should be safe. Replace them 5 players and see how we perform, add 1-2 more in winter market.
And stop focusing on europa league for . That competition just ruins the squad with injuries and we tend to perform woefully then.
07 Mar 2024 05:12:36
That would work in fantasy world but in the real world of business and money and football, you can’t just ignore European football for 2-3 years and get rid of 10 players by just chucking them out the door. Yes we need to rebuild and the last 2 years been wasted because the rebuilding blocks not up to the required standard, but you still have to entertain and win at the time of rebuilding.
07 Mar 2024 09:06:20
All comes back to the culture and personalities in the dressing room.
The club, under Ole, had some of the games best young coaches in there such as McKenna and Carrick, yet still couldn’t get a tune out of them ultimately.
Wrong players, poor recruitment consistently, and no strategy or structure.
Personally, l liked Ole in charge as at least he resonated with most fans, and I think he did a good job overall. His away record was phenomenal, and his record against top 6 sides also hugely impressive. He lost his focus and influence sadly towards the end, and once that happens there’s no way back.
As for ETH, I think he’s a good coach. I really see little point burning through more managers, ceding to player power again and again, giving the same players new opportunities to start afresh yet again.
With the proper recruitment and infrastructure support, I think he can be a success. He just needs to concentrate on the coaching side of things, as his Ajax team played some of the most exciting football I’d seen in years when he was there, and his first season a was extremely promising.
07 Mar 2024 10:12:04
And some players didn't want to be captain for certain games. What a bunch of overpaid spoilt brats we have. 90,% of the players we have need to be shown the door. i'd rather watch next season with reserve players who actually want to play for Manchester United.
These players are making it hard to watch united games.
Rashford should be first out the door.
07 Mar 2024 10:40:13
What Leahy said, word for word ???.
07 Mar 2024 10:52:33
He played ok last season with Luke Shaw behind him. Playing ON THE LEFT!
07 Mar 2024 11:53:22
I agree Patrick. But that's the problem with him. Huge inconsistencies. If conditions are not the exact way he wants them, ie Shaw behind him, playing where and how suits him etc them he appears to down tools become disinterested and sticks 2 fingers up to everybody.
Sometimes you just need to dig in and do what your asked for the team to the best of your ability even when it doesn't suit you.
I think and always have done that he has great ability ( many will bebate that) but he didn't apply himself as he should all the time.
He has huge affection for the club but only on his terms by the look of it. That's not the way it should be Imo.
There appears to be a big rift between him and eth but we can't be 100% sure of that. I tend to agree that rashford will be at united next season.
07 Mar 2024 13:18:02
You'll be happy with that though Ken as that could well mean ETH is out!
07 Mar 2024 15:07:49
The Ole interview was interesting. It highlighted several issues in my opinion 1) A lack of structure on the footballing side meaning decisions were/ are not made efficiently. 2) Leadership (board level) more interested in commercial output than the actual product (the football played on the pitch) . 3) The squad lacks character and resilience.
The more info that comes out about how the club has been run post Fergie/ Gill the worse it gets.
Hopefully INEOS are in the process of sorting points 1 and 2, until these are sorted out any manager is on a hiding to nothing. Point 3 the squad lacking character appears to be being sorted by ETH, he's been very strict with player like Ronaldo, Sancho and even Rashford to an extent.
I really think we need to stick with ETH and get the bad players out. For me Bruno and Rashford need moving on ASAP. Bruno is a busy fool in transition and Rashford looks like he does not want to be here. Casemiro, Maguire, Varane, Erikson, Antony, Sancho and Wan Bissaka all need to be moved on and replaced.
A clear-out of big names really puts a shot across the bow and shows players they aren't bigger than the club. It also allows the manager to build a much better culture within the dressing room.
07 Mar 2024 16:11:11
I'd be happier if both went to be honest ports but I don't see that happening.
It might but no point worrying about things we can't control or have no entitlement to control.
They could both stay, they might be best buddies next year, who knows.
07 Mar 2024 17:28:00
Rashford turns up when he can be ar*sed. His attitute is disgusting!
I can't bear to watch a match when he plays now. Everything about him infuriates me.
He would be the first out of the door closely followed that clown Sancho, unfortunately i think that they will be both at United next season because it will be ETH that goes before them.
We can look forward to another season watching that pair of idiots strolling around taking the p*ss.
07 Mar 2024 18:54:24
He always been inconsistent but something seriously wrong this season…. I don’t doubt his love for United but I did notice not a word in his little rant about ETH, that maybe the clue, but for himself he needs a new start elsewhere, somewhere he can enjoy his football he certainly not doing that at United.
07 Mar 2024 20:18:00
Rewz, they’re not the names who need to be shown the door. Maybe sancho and Antony. It’s the players like Rashford, Shaw, McTominay and the likes who’ve clearly downed tools under multiple managers. I can’t imagine for a minute Varane and Casemiro would leak to the press and refuse to play.
Quality wise, Maguire and Wan Bissaka won’t cut it but they aren’t the first ones needing the boot.
07 Mar 2024 21:08:49
Tumbleweed, you are clearly a very bitter man. I pity anyone who can spit such hatred about a former manager and club great. Very personal with your insults towards the man.
07 Mar 2024 21:30:02
Shaw when fit has made a massive positive difference to the team. Mctominay is a decent squad player who always tries hard.
07 Mar 2024 22:21:59
I am very bitter about him classimero.
08 Mar 2024 14:46:31
Well tumble I pity ya mate, he tried and it didn't work. Got one over pep and city a few times, got us to a 2nd place finish too. It's funny cos the same people who bash ole also sit there and say the players are throwing managers under the bus. And they certainly did with Ole. Nice guy, club great and certainly came across well in the neville podcast. Just wasn't up to it, but holding hatred is childish in my opinion.
08 Mar 2024 23:46:29
I don't hate him out anyone.
I hate the job he did here.