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09 Aug 2018 12:08:27
Late double deal for Toby and Danny Rose?


1.) 09 Aug 2018 12:47:17
Yeh there having there medical as we speak.

2.) 09 Aug 2018 13:01:57
And they are also giving Alli on a season long loan with option to sign for 20m.

3.) 09 Aug 2018 13:18:49
No chance of levy strengthening a top four rival with one player ket alone two.

4.) 09 Aug 2018 13:42:06
Sailor, clean your ears out. We were offered the tea lady Sally on a loan deal. Woodward is considering as she marketed along with our new bootlace sponsor who are PG Tips.



29 May 2018 19:00:53
Anyone know anything about Diogo Dallot who we are apparently signing? Young Porto right back. His wiki page already updated as a Man Utd player.

Personally never heard of him and I'd prefer we go for his brother Win.

Thank you I'm here all week.


1.) 29 May 2018 19:18:33
His wiki page says he's a right arm cricketer and his current team is man city 😂.

2.) 29 May 2018 19:18:41
Boom Boom Eric 79! I think his brother Win has signed for Huddersfield, or at least I heard he was in talks with the terriers.

3.) 29 May 2018 20:53:54
Win Dallot? I've heard he can turn on the gas.



29 May 2018 13:42:47
Emre Can on a free anyone?


1.) 29 May 2018 13:50:44
Can he cook and clean? If so send him my way.

2.) 29 May 2018 13:57:43
Juve have him pretty much wrapped up. Wouldn't say no mind think he is a very good player. Will flourish at Juve.

Haha FZZ brilliant.



21 Jun 2017 08:11:39
Hi EDs,

Any truth in the Darmian to Juventus rumours?

Don't know about anyone else, but if he's good enough for them he's certainly good enough for us unless he really desires a move back to Italy.


{Ed002's Note - Yes - this is quite old news. Inter were also keen but since January Juventus have been planning on him.}

1.) 21 Jun 2017 08:25:03
Thanks Ed very interesting. I suppose if, as you say, we are looking to Semedo too he will be surplus to requirements.

{Ed002's Note - Yes Eric - he is not wanted.}

2.) 21 Jun 2017 09:26:41
Darmian isn't suited to the EPL. He offers very little going forward and is very slow. Serie A is much more suited to his style of play.

3.) 21 Jun 2017 09:55:45
Tend to agree with you Wazza. Good move for Darmian though as he gets a return to Turin and to a great club.

4.) 22 Jun 2017 01:42:53
While I'm fine with darmian moving on, I hope it doesn't blur the fact that he was a decent player for us. Strong defensively, perhaps a little too cautious going forward, but he always put in a good shift, willing to play on either flank, and was by no means a failure at united. If he was willing to be a role player behind legit elite fbs, I'd be fine keeping him. If he does move on, I for one will have positive memories and gratitude to the player. He's done the united shirt proud.



30 Jan 2017 08:19:30
Hi all. Amy info on where Young may be off to please?


{Ed002's Note - Nope.}

1.) 30 Jan 2017 11:20:36
"I am waiting for January 31 to know what is going on. I am not happy if he leaves, but he is the only player that I am informed has a possibility of leaving.

"That is why he didn't play and I gave chances to other people, because I don't know if he is going to stay. If I could choose, definitely yes he would stay with us. "jose on young

2.) 30 Jan 2017 15:57:22
I think he might go to Sunderland

3.) 30 Jan 2017 19:57:09
back to watford maybe




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04 Sep 2018 10:27:29
A quick question on Andreas Pereira. lot of chat on how he should have started etc over an experienced and quality Belgian international. What is his actual best position?


1.) 04 Sep 2018 11:04:56
No idea. Has played dm, cm, am and on the wing. Probably in a cm two, similar to Fred.

2.) 04 Sep 2018 11:45:50
He has many different talents which makes him suitable for several positions. He is creative with excellent vision, his passing and technique are also top notch. He has good pace and is a very good dribbler. He also works very hard for the team. His weaker areas are he isn't the strongest, nor the best tackler and he isn't going to win many headers.

From this you could say he would fit in to any offensive/ creative role in a team. He will work hard defensively but will likely come off worst against the top players or even players more physically blessed (taller, stronger, faster) than he is.

He could play in either a No.8 or No.10 or out wide. He can play as a No.6 as we have seen. However, I feel he would only do well in that role as part of a 3 man midfield and only against teams that aren't going to ask too much of him from a defensive stand point.

He could do very well as a No.8, which is where I see him finally settling on as his best position. The problem for him is we currently have Pogba, Fred, Herrera, Fellaini and McTominay who are all probably best suited to the No.8 role.

So he will have to either make himself undropable when given a chance in that role or claim another position as his own.

3.) 04 Sep 2018 13:32:39

Or leave, which I feel is more likely.

4.) 04 Sep 2018 14:05:59
Thanks Shappy very thorough and makes sense. Let’s be honest, Pogba will be off sooner rather than later so he will get chances.

{Ed002's Note - I expect Ander Herrera to also leave in the club.

5.) 04 Sep 2018 14:32:03
GDS, I think he will likely leave next summer unless he can nail down a regular role this year. With the players he has ahead of him, and our current managers preferences/ style I can't see him becoming a regular this year. So I too expect he will leave.

Eric, Pogba does look destined to leave at some point, be that January, next summer or possibly not until 2020 or later.

The manager, the club and the player are all happy for him to leave, however, money is the key sticking point. He will stay until the right offer comes in or until the club become desperate to cut their losses. However, if at some point this season we end up getting a new manager, I would expect he would have a say on whether Pogba leaves. Maybe he will indulge him, maybe he'll build his side around him. There are too many if, buts and maybes at the moment to tell for sure. However, I doubt he'll be here next season.

Ed002, that would be a shame. I like Herrera, great professional who seems to get the club and understands what the club is about. He is also a great player who can contribute well to the side. However, if I'm honest Fred is a similar kind of player who the club have just invested in. What clubs are currently interested in Herrera?

6.) 04 Sep 2018 14:32:03
GDS, I think he will likely leave next summer unless he can nail down a regular role this year. With the players he has ahead of him, and our current managers preferences/ style I can't see him becoming a regular this year. So I too expect he will leave.

Eric, Pogba does look destined to leave at some point, be that January, next summer or possibly not until 2020 or later.

The manager, the club and the player are all happy for him to leave, however, money is the key sticking point. He will stay until the right offer comes in or until the club become desperate to cut their losses. However, if at some point this season we end up getting a new manager, I would expect he would have a say on whether Pogba leaves. Maybe he will indulge him, maybe he'll build his side around him. There are too many if, buts and maybes at the moment to tell for sure. However, I doubt he'll be here next season.

Ed002, that would be a shame. I like Herrera, great professional who seems to get the club and understands what the club is about. He is also a great player who can contribute well to the side. However, if I'm honest Fred is a similar kind of player who the club have just invested in. What clubs are currently interested in Herrera?

{Ed002's Note - Atletico Madrid.}

7.) 04 Sep 2018 15:30:43
Allidsay is if Ander is good enough for Atletico Madrid he’s kid enough for us but he’s never quite pinned down a convincing spot under Jose.

8.) 04 Sep 2018 15:41:30
Though Ander Herrera is not the 1st team on the sheet, his contribution can not be overlooked. Even in the last match where he came on after Rashford's red card, it never seemed like we were a man down. Herrera was helping defence as well as attack. I can't think of any other player in our squad who could have made such a difference ( maybe Fred) .

9.) 04 Sep 2018 16:18:49
Pogba we expect to leave. Herrera doesn't have much time on his contract and most likely will leave and Fellaini only signed a one year extension so should be leaving as well. i'd also expect McTominay to leave before Pereira. So i'd say they will be plenty of room for him.

10.) 04 Sep 2018 17:02:50
I think fellaini signed a 2 year deal.

11.) 04 Sep 2018 17:55:49
2 years with option of a third. Felli is here to stay, and that isn’t a bad thing.

Herrera is being used as a utility player by Jose, and it would be unsurprising if he leaves. I was a bit unsure about Pereira’s long term future being at the club, but having read Shappy’s summary, we should probably build the team around him - sounds better than Inestia.

12.) 04 Sep 2018 19:17:49
Ed002. Would you expect Herrera to leave in January or next summer? Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - I can’t say. Pogba will go in January if he can. If there is no new contract for AH he will be looking at his options.}

13.) 04 Sep 2018 21:01:37
Will all parties be happy with Pogba leaving? Woodward, Mourinho and the rest of the team? Or are there people in the club who would like him to stay?

{Ed002's Note - I have no idea what the numerous employees of Manchester United feel about the matter.}

14.) 04 Sep 2018 21:09:01
I agree, Mort. I like Scott, but I think he's rather limited. Perreira's ability to play several different positions, should see him be a more useful squad player. I still think we're missing a trick not playing him further forward.

15.) 04 Sep 2018 21:34:04
Thanks for the info Ed 👍🏼.

16.) 04 Sep 2018 23:01:32
Thanks Ed, shame to see Ander go, he has a good head on him and always gives his best, I think Ferguson would have got much more out of him, but that goes for so many others.

17.) 05 Sep 2018 00:01:49
Good evening Ed002, if both Ander Herrera and Paul Pogba were to leave in Jan 2019 have utd lined up any potential replacements?
Would SMS be a realistic option to come in during the January transfer window as he is not in the champions league.

Thank you in advance for your time and knowledge.

{Ed007's Note - John McGinn and Stuart Armstrong will be monitored this season and with Scott Allan's contract up next summer Utd will try and steal a march on Hibs by offering a deal in January rather than a free next year.}

18.) 07 Sep 2018 00:07:02
2 years? Oh!



01 Sep 2018 07:16:53
Right, finally the circus that is the transfer window is over. Let's get down to some serious business of playing footy!


1.) 01 Sep 2018 10:11:46
Been closed for weeks Eric, just waiting for the footy to start now.

2.) 01 Sep 2018 12:41:18
Eric is, I think referring to the European window - we could still have sold players until yesterday I believe?

No doubt someone will correct me if wrong.

3.) 01 Sep 2018 14:03:21
Indeed I was Betty.

4.) 01 Sep 2018 14:16:05
Yeh I know.

5.) 01 Sep 2018 14:29:41
So not been closed for weeks then!

6.) 01 Sep 2018 18:43:07
I think he made a joke.



26 Aug 2018 13:28:52
No fan of the man but Neil Custis makes some balanced points about Jose at Utd. Mentioned Spurs and Liverpool fans rubbing their hands together, whereas Jose has won us more trophies than them in two seasons than in their last 10-15 years!

Also mentioned how he has picked up a squad which let's not forget was awful football and moral under LVG who got rid of the likes of Raphael, Welbeck and Evans who could all do a better job than half the dross he bought. Far worse than we see today.


1.) 26 Aug 2018 14:33:50
To be fair lvg had just won the fa cup if we are using trophies as a yardstick.

2.) 26 Aug 2018 14:45:36
And to be fair to lvg at least we had a way of playing.

Jose hoof ball is depressing the life out of us.

Winning trophies playing this bad can only last so long. Last season we won nothing.

This season doesn't seem to be any different.

You can't teach and old dog new tricks.

3.) 26 Aug 2018 15:44:43
Same fans who moaned about Moyes moaned about LVG moaning about Jose prob moaned that we didn’t win 5-0 every game under Fergie aswell, maybe support the club instead of picking holes.

4.) 26 Aug 2018 16:24:29
'At least we had a way of playing'? 😂😂😂 What was that then Bolger? Keeping the ball in our own half for 90 mins and still losing? People literally fell asleep when LVG was here, must be forgetting how bad it was.

5.) 26 Aug 2018 16:43:42
Best time to be a United fan post Sir Alex was the end of Van Gaal's second reason. Had three youngsters leading the attack in Rashford, Martial and Lingard and culminated in an FA cup win.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing but if we could have just won an extra game that year we would have got top 4, kept LvG for another year, continued to develop Martial and Rashford and then get Allegri (and the DoF we had planned to join him) in to replace LvG and we would be doing just fine right about now.

6.) 26 Aug 2018 16:46:46
Some fans on here will moan no matter who the manager is and all these calling for Zidane to replace Jose I bet it will be no better with him in charge as he sets up the same as Jose does its just he had better players to do it with at Madrid.

7.) 26 Aug 2018 16:51:24
Maybe but I don't think allegri would've worked either but we'll never know. It is what it is and we are where we are. The next Choice has to be right, we can afford no more mistakes. But I have little confidence in the right choice being made.

8.) 26 Aug 2018 18:04:02
The game has changed so much since the year 2000 . The formations the coaching the diets etc . The days of a SAF staying and managing the whole club are long gone. We need to get off the managers back and support our great club. 😆😆.

9.) 26 Aug 2018 18:57:20
Well said BFRO, let's try and ignore the journalists and the pundits and let's get behind the team and the manager. A bit of perspective is needed. The team played badly and lost. I'm hopeful of a positive response from the team tomorrow.

{Ed0333's Note - Hope is a beautiful thing. I hope Jose smiles one day this year.

10.) 26 Aug 2018 23:40:24
Jose likes to start every day with a smile.
Just to get it over with.

11.) 26 Aug 2018 23:48:27
Didn't LVG play hoof ball as well when the going got tough? Think some have short memories.

I remember an advert on BT mocking him and the forward was called Van Hoof.

12.) 27 Aug 2018 12:34:52
Anyone else feel a shiver run down their spine, when LVG is mentioned?

13.) 26 Aug 2018 20:06:53
Maybe you'd like to go on the sightins page then Ed033✌🏻.

{Ed0333's Note - that picture will break the internet mate.



25 Aug 2018 22:00:18
Pogba out and Ramsey in for January? I'd take that.


1.) 25 Aug 2018 23:33:56
He couldn't lace pogbas boots.

{Ed002's Note - He is a footballer and wont be able to lace boots at all - saved by Velcro.}

2.) 26 Aug 2018 03:38:57
Pogba should play all out if he wants to prove that Jose is not a good manager. In fact the whole team should do it.
If the team doesn’t come out with good results it only shows that they are just at much fault as the manager.
Remember the word is TEAM. Not manager neither player/ s.

3.) 26 Aug 2018 09:00:03
Ramsey far more effective premier league player. Pog doesn’t want to be at the club, and the club don’t want him. Sell up and move on.

4.) 26 Aug 2018 10:13:50
And it's Ramsey dream to play for United.
One decent season been pretty average for years, I would take a pass on Ramsey .
Ramsey matic Fred wig Herrera? No creativity.

5.) 26 Aug 2018 10:40:14
Sell pogba now and buy Ramsey in January. Lol.

6.) 26 Aug 2018 17:17:56
What a crap idea.



14 Aug 2018 13:16:14
So, 2 years under Jose. How would you rate him out of 10 so far?

I'll kick off and say 6.5. Would be higher if he actually smiled and stopped being so publicly miserable. His style of football reflects his public persona unfortunately.

I still think he might change though for some reason.


1.) 14 Aug 2018 13:29:16
7.5, style bringing the score down, but you can’t fault the fact we have improved in every area statistically and won trophies in our supposed lean years.

2.) 14 Aug 2018 13:52:51
2 out of 10. I'm being generous.

We look just as negative as when he took over (more so), none of us know whether he will be here come Christmas. Our star players are not playing to the levels required. Our tactics are easy to play against. Our potential stars have gone backwards. Signings for the most part have not enhanced the team much at all. We have fallen further behind City and our rivals look to be improving more than we are. It seems to be all about him, 99.99% of Utd fans are not expecting us to win the league this season - disgrace after 2 years in charge and mega money support - we should be expecting a close race at the very least.

We won a few weak cups, achieved 2nd in the league (despite not coming close to winning it and being fortunate imo), we are harder to beat than under LVG, but the very fact I am typing this is a problem as we should be talking about attacking intent, exciting football, players gelling, systems working and adapting to situations.

We still have no RW, RB and LB (that Jose rates) . It has been a stop-gap, temporary feel to the whole Jose period, we have stalled as a club, arguably gone backwards. The benchmark is City and Pep, not the clown LVG.

3.) 14 Aug 2018 15:05:45
I also think to judge him you need to agree on a benchmark as if you compare him to lvg we are better and he's improved on what we were but if you change the benchmark to other side's, okay is all I'd say. I'm not impressed with our style or the attitude and mood he often displays as he can make the club feel downbeat to me but I have to concede when he took the job if 2 cups in two years, a runner up spot and a cup final were offered then that is good from where we were . This year I hope fans have a clear mind about what is acceptable and what's not before a ball is kicked and not access it off other teams and constantly revise it . To me a third year in charge of man utd having spend large sums on lots of players then a realistic tittle challenge is the benchmark, a realistic challenge to me is come Easter still able to win it not just statisticaly but realistically .

4.) 14 Aug 2018 15:15:12
3 out of 10. Beast beat me to it, and i agree with his post entirely. I would also add that in addition to the rb, lb, rw areas, Mourinho doesn't trust our cb's, and he's bought TWO of them, he also doesn't trust our most talented player, pogba, and he bought him too.
He also bought mkhitaryan and sold him within 8 months. He's bought Sanchez and turned him into a useless player. He's also destroyed Martial, which is criminal.
Our style of football is pants, our tactics are so predictable, and our players are not playing to their potential as they seem confused and scared to play.
If anyone can argue with the above and what Beast wrote, then you've not been watching United for the past two years.
It really has been a joke as he's fallen out with most players the fans, the owners, woodward, the refs, the media. Can all these people be wrong and Mourinho be right? Struth.
Its fine supporting the players unconditionally but supporting the manager, when he's clearly moving in the wrong direction and about tp jump off the footballing cliff, is utterly stupid. Only sheep do that, and I know we are all more intelligent than that.

5.) 14 Aug 2018 15:25:39
Has he really came out and said 'i don't trust my centrebacks' or is that all of them last season were injured at one point or another.

6.) 14 Aug 2018 15:31:32
Like all of us I would like to see us playing with more flair, but to go as low as 2/ 10 after having won 2 trophies in his first year, getting us to 2nd place last year with an improvement in goals scored, seems a little on the ridiculous side. I'd say 6 for now, but this season is the key to determining his overall success.

7.) 14 Aug 2018 15:36:00
I wouldn’t trust our centre backs either, Smalling and Jones have repeatedly let us down wether it be injury, senseless shirt tugging, mindless decision making, poor passing etc etc. Hopefully he sticks with Bailly and a much improved Lindelof going forward. Jose has obvs improved us against LVG or Moyes but not against SAF but as we have had overhaul after overhaul it will take time to complete it or do we really want yet another manager with yet another philosophy with yet another backroom team and yet another 3/ 4 Windows of bringing in the new players and then what if nobody is happy again with the next manager? Hate to tell you but no guarantee a new manager will play this heavenly football we all crave.

8.) 14 Aug 2018 16:03:40
I will take SAF as a benchmark of 10, then Jose is atleast 7.5 right now simply because SAF wasnt anywhere in his first 5 years. He was backed and given time. I am ready to bet anything that if SAF was incharge now, he wouldn't last 2 years.

9.) 14 Aug 2018 16:14:18
Ok Beast, if City are the benchmark for Jose to be judged on then let's talk. In the summer of 2016 they both took over as manager of their respective clubs. That summer United finished 5th while City finished 4th. The year before that, United finished 4th, City were Champions.

Jose had to rebuild a squad that had been woefully managed the last decade. We were crying out for a new spine and that's what Jose spent his first transfer window addressing. Our world class players list before Jose took over would read "De Gea". That's it, I can't think of another player in that squad that would be considered "world class".

Pep on the other hand took over a much more balanced side. World class players would be Kompany, Silva, De Bruyne, Aguero. The spine of the team had been together for years. Won titles together. Pep just needed to fine tune the City team. Jose had to rebuild our's.

While nearly every position in our team needed improvement, Jose had to be systematic about it. Money being a finite resource, it was going to take a few windows and fair few quid to make us title challengers again.

The fact that you belittle winning the "weak" trophies smacks of arrogance. Did you jump out of your seat when Zlatan scored the third goal in the league cup final? Last minute winner at Wembley, if that doesn't get your juices going then find a new sport. Europa League may not be as easy on the eye as it's cousin, but it's still a big trophy to win. I was proud of the team winning that competition, first time in our history.

Then our second season comes around. Jose bolsters the defence, midfield and attack. He wanted another wide player but for whatever reason, the board wouldn't get him the player he wanted.

A small hop across Manchester. Pep decides the 30 million pound goal keeper he bought before isn't good enough so he replaces him with a 50 million pound one. Buys 3 full backs for a combined fee of a small nations defense budget. And another 110 million on Stones and Laporte. And that's just the defense!

Our 94 team, 99 team, 08 team, points wise couldn't touch this Manchester City team. I don't know how you can use it as a stick to beat Jose with. "Finished 2nd despite not coming close to winning it and being fortunate". This is truly embarrassing.

The facts are, we don't have a devine right to win the league. Finishing second last year wasn't fortunate, it was good management. We finished second behind a team that as bought 23 players to our 14. City have given Pep every player he's asked for while our club penny pinches over players Jose wants.

The amount of negativity around the club is horrible. I remember last year kicking off the league campaign with a few 4-0 wins. The doom and gloomers saying "it was only Swansea, it was only West ham". Liverpool start off the campaign with a 4-0 win and the same people are on here telling us how fast they unbuckled their belts.

Are we capable of beating any team that is put in front of us? Yes! Are we capable of mounting a title challenge? Yes!

Get behind the team for once. It can be enjoyable!

10.) 14 Aug 2018 16:42:02
2/ 10 haha some of you don't know you're born. Hilarious reading though guys well done, let's hope there aren't any scousers on here laughing at us all, it's embarrassing.

11.) 14 Aug 2018 16:52:05
Gds2 I thought you would go higher than 2/ 10 😀.

12.) 14 Aug 2018 17:02:27
Think I have disagreed with every post beast has ever made and I would awardhim 2/ 10 also .
If I was an ice skating judge I wd give jose 8pts for technical ability and 6 points for artistic impression.

13.) 14 Aug 2018 17:12:33
Gds2 do you mind if I ask what is your benchmark this season, what will make it a successful season and what isn't good enough . Do u expect the title or a title challenge, or just top 4 . Personally I think a serious tilt at it . It may explain why people disagree if we know what we are judging it on in the first place, same question to most posters really.

14.) 14 Aug 2018 16:54:32
7 out of 10 . Jose = Born winner 😆😆.

15.) 14 Aug 2018 18:13:47
With the players Mourinho had to play with i would give it 7 out of 10. Players like Jones, Smalling, Fellaini, Valencia, Young, Lingard as our first teamers there is no wonder we haven't won the title but it is a job qell done we came 2nd last year and won the europa league the year before that.

16.) 14 Aug 2018 18:31:57
This is the year. This is the one that the eternal optimists said would be the year. Well, first of all it was 3 transfer windows. Then three seasons. Now of course, in the third season, it's the Glazer's fault for not throwing a zillion more quid at the problem, which is a convenient scapegoat, after he was backed to the hilt in his first two seasons. Please, no more excuses if this year isn't the one. We're sounding more and more like that lot down the road.

17.) 14 Aug 2018 18:28:40
Loving it mumbles! Brilliant.

18.) 14 Aug 2018 18:41:46
Mort, the fact he's been chasing 5 cb's during the transfer window, says all we need to know about his trust in the current cb's.

19.) 14 Aug 2018 18:42:33
Good post Mumbles.

20.) 14 Aug 2018 18:59:41
Mumbles, your post is laughable. The doom and gloom as you put it, didn't come from us my friend, it came from our manager, who quite simply told us that if we don't buy more players "then its going to be a long season". When questioned on our title chances, he prefered not to give an answer.
Do you honestly hand on heart think that we can win the league this year? Just sit back for a second and reply without bias. As it stands, we have zero chance of winning the league. We don't even seem to play as a team, we don't attack with intent. So how are we going to beat the likes of City, Liverpool, Spurs and Chelsea away from home? How are we going to score enough goals if Lukaku picks up an injury? How are we going to get the best out of Pogba and Martial when the manager seems hell bent on selling them?
I'm all for supporting the team, that's a given, but supporting a manager that seems out of touch and seems unhappy, no thank you.
Last year, we were neck and neck with City until they came to OT. Mourinho chose the coward way to park the bus, AT HOME, Guadiola chose to play attacking football and they played us off the park. A 3 point gap became 5 and the rest is history. Mourinho will not change, and we won't win the league (the competition that really matters, Fergie's words), while he's in charge.

21.) 14 Aug 2018 19:02:10
Hart, Zabaleta, Kolarov, Mangala, Demichaelis, Bony, Dzeko, Nasri, Iheanacho, Nolito, Fernando, Navas, Caballero, Clichy, etc.

All shipped out by Pep, deemed not good enough and gone one way or another. Meanwhile, we still play with men the manager doesn't want and they don't want to be here - week in week out.

We still play the exact same tactics as the first day he took over, it's all about containment - Leicester dominated the ball at Old Trafford for Christs sake!

Have Shaw, Rashford, Martial improved since Jose took over, our 3 potential world class youngsters?

Have the existing quality players we had done anything of note? Have his signings done anything of note?

City have signed players for a system, most have worked. They play attacking football, good to watch, starting to give youth players a spin and encouraging noises being made. Meanwhile we have signed target men without wingers, CB's the manager doesn't rate, creative players but we play hoof ball, picked failed wingers as full backs, picked out of form players because of their brand/ wages. Basically we are a mess, we are not a team under good management.

I'm sorry but if you think Jose is onto something and we are going in the right direction then you are deluding yourselves. Europa League and the League Cup are Mickey Mouse cups, just like the Charity Shield is a friendly - go back 10 years we would mock opposing fans for using those cups as claims of success! That alone should tell you all you need to know about his tenure.

Granted it was a hard job, but it will be a lot harder for the next guy! What groundwork is Jose laying, it's like a minefield.

22.) 14 Aug 2018 19:02:27
Good post Mumbles
7/ 10 . He had to pick the club off the floor after one utter failure and another who changed direction for the worst. The backroom staff had been decimated and confidence had evaporated. He started with a poorly put together average side and moved us up the table last season. If the club had supported him in the summer 17 window with the 4th player it might have been better.
If the vitriol gets the managerial change some want they may also get the mess they deserve.

23.) 14 Aug 2018 19:04:40
Spot on Stevie. At some stage, he has to be judged at winning the PL. It is the true baroneter of how good or bad we are.
Gds, so we are embarrassing for expecting our great club to win the pl title. Why is this embarrasing? You didn't answer the original question, what marks out of 10 would you give Mourinho and why?

24.) 14 Aug 2018 19:10:25
Noucamp, we're sounding more and more like that lot down the road? Would that be Liverpool? Who the doom and gloomers wish we played like? Who never stop comparing them to us?

It's easy being pessimistic. It's the same group that lost their lunch last year when we signed Matic over Bakayoko. Lovely how that one worked out isn't it. Complain complain complain. It's pathetic!

25.) 14 Aug 2018 19:21:07
Mumbles, I was referring to their fans who have been full of excuses for years. All I'm hearing just now from our lot, is, "just one more transfer window, and it'll be alright'. Except when those pesky Glazers go and spoil things, of course.

26.) 14 Aug 2018 19:23:04
How's it looking for that lot down the road Mumbles? Maybe the fans not accepting rubbish makes things happen.

27.) 14 Aug 2018 19:31:15
1 out of 10 and that's only because he hasn't got us relegated yet. I've stopped watching my beloved Utd because of Mourinho. What's the point? It's rubbish.

28.) 14 Aug 2018 19:48:44
A few years ago you guys use to laugh and taunt livepool fan things like " this year will be our year". I think you guys have become anembarassment and liverpool fans are probably laughing at us. How quickly have the tables changed!

29.) 14 Aug 2018 19:47:00
They're the 4th best team in the league Beast, they're a good outfit. They'll win more than they lose but until their one dimensional manager can get them over the line, I remain unconvinced.

30.) 14 Aug 2018 19:50:21
AAA, of course we have a chance of winning the league. You say we have no chance of beating the top 6 away. Well we beat City, Arsenal and drew with Liverpool and we won the home games against the ones we lost. We beat every team once last year, who's to say we can't win an extra 3 games and get to around 90 points?

Your hypothetical scenarios are nonsense because they're hypothetical. Ifs ifs ifs. All I know is that we have a team that can beat anyone on their day and a manager who is fantastic at affecting games from the touchline. That alone means we have a chance!

31.) 14 Aug 2018 19:58:03
1 out of 10 because it's me.

On a serious note I would say 5 out of 10. Middle of the road.

Needs to get the team playing better football, get the most out of the players we have. Create a better atmosphere around the club.

32.) 14 Aug 2018 20:02:50
Mumbles, you're calling another team one dimensional? I know glass houses are see through but surely you must have noticed.

33.) 14 Aug 2018 20:07:35
Mancman, I said they've a one dimensional manager.

34.) 14 Aug 2018 20:22:18
I think you've got to remember that most people around the world chose to support United because they're successful.

Trophies are everything for some so entertainment doesn't mean much.

35.) 14 Aug 2018 20:33:38
The man has done enough for another go this season however we haven't laid a glove on Chelsea or city in the last two year, we were probably 20 points off the pace each year . if we got rid of managers every two year after 2 trophies, a runner up spot and a cup final then we set a daunting task for the next guy .
It's third year now though and we have spent lots of money in the last 3 year and JM has inherited the world's best keeper, he's bought a RB and two CBS, the probable first choice 3 man midfield, the striker and a wide man, there is no excuse now to be dull or not to challenge it's his team now . Let's hope he plays better stuff and challenges and if come the season end we don't do well enough then stop giving excuses .

36.) 14 Aug 2018 20:55:07
As I said the other day we had 11 different combos st cb last year. Is it the managers fault rojo, jones and Smalling are made of glass? How does he not rate the 2 he signed? Bailly had some injuries and lindelof took time to settle. Yes he wanted another one. He wanted an experienced leader. We were also trying to sell rojo and Smalling.

37.) 14 Aug 2018 21:32:25
Jose took over a team that had finished joint 4th and won the fa cup .
Again the silly over the top " Jose took over a team on it's knees ".

Or we can't beat a top 6 team we did last season and finished second .

Jose doing what Jose does.

38.) 14 Aug 2018 21:48:47
I hope we do better jred and hopefully we will if it's 20 points off the pace again then 3 year in a row of that can't be accepted as doing well, it's the sort of stuff Liverpool churned out for years .
Jose has a big reputation and it's time to show why and challenge .

39.) 14 Aug 2018 22:03:21
8 out of ten because every aspect of our game is better.

{Ed025's Note - not the entertainment mate..

40.) 15 Aug 2018 00:02:02
3/ 10 for me. When you get a new manager in you want to see improvement. When the manager is one of the best paid in the business you want to see big improvement in one season, in 2 seasons you want to be challenging for the major trophies if your one of the biggest clubs in Europe.
You don't want a manager that falls out with players and blames everything on someone else.
Jose is a yesterday man I'm afraid.
His ways are out dated.

41.) 15 Aug 2018 00:37:40
Ed you don't think we're more entertaining now than under lvg?

{Ed025's Note - to be honest mate no, i see signs now and then of a bit of fluency but to me the players seem very introvert, i dont think it was great under lvg either but with the players united have i expect better, i dont know if they are scared to make a mistake or just dont buy into the jose style of play but i find it mundane and think its all about the result over entertainment, just my view of course..

42.) 15 Aug 2018 04:12:50
For entertainment Ed, i watch Comedy Central. 90 minutes in a week, i am sure i can manage without that elusive entertainment as long as my team wins. Does that sound fair?

{Ed025's Note - a bit shallow if im honest shan, its an entertainment industry mate..

43.) 15 Aug 2018 06:43:21
Foe me it’s about 7/ 10. Won 2 trophies the first year, runners up the second year. However, I don’t see it getting better than 7/ 10. Entertainment is poor, play is slow and lacks energy, and the Manager appears not to want to be here.

44.) 15 Aug 2018 07:53:53
I basically agree with Beast except for his ridulously low score of 2.
Beast you are Craig Reville Horwood of the Strictly come Old Trafford crowd.

45.) 15 Aug 2018 08:47:53

I don't think it's embarrassing that people want us to win the league, I think giving a 2/ 10 for a manager who came 2nd to the best points tally ever when trying to win the league is the laughable thing. The season before he won 2 trophies, we weren't even in the CL when he arrived, how can his performance be a 2/ 10?

It's hard to give just one number out of 10 like it is for a player in a match, there are so many different aspects to his performance and what he has achieved that just putting one number against it is very hard.

To give 2/ 10 you have to have really decided not to like him and obviously decided that winning the league is the only thing that matters and if he finished 2nd or 17th he would get a low score.

I know Ed said he hasn't improved the entertainment but perhaps he didn't watch us often under LVG, I went to 11 consecutive home games were we didn't score in the 1st half, one game we didn't have a shot on target, it is easy to re-write history but we are so much better than that it's unbelievable.

I just don't get the negativity I suppose, ok we could have done with a couple more players but all that has happened so far is that we beat a decent Leicester team 2-1, got 3 points out of 3 possible, why be negative when nothing has gone wrong yet? I'm sure some are hoping we lose a couple of games so they can say 'see I told you Jose is a 2/ 10', it really is ridiculous and as I said, quite frankly embarrassing.

46.) 15 Aug 2018 17:08:34
Very good post GDS. I think its a personal thing some people they just don't like Jose so there is no point explaining something to them it is like banging your heàd on a wall.

47.) 15 Aug 2018 08:25:14
Unfortunately Ed I think you are wrong now, it is an entertainment industry for the fans but for most that are involved in the game it is just about money.

{Ed025's Note - the money is one of the biggest problems tot and especially those blood sucking agents so i will have that, but speaking as a fan if i spend my hard earned money going to a game i want something that will get me off my seat, united have always been a value for money club imo and even when they were not at their best everyone tried, i fail to get excited watching them these days especially in the big games where they seem to play not to lose rather than to win, but if you are happy with what you are seeing then more power to you mate..




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30 Aug 2018 11:32:41
Well we have one more day so we shall see. I’m sad he might leave, only because of the promise he has which he has only shown in glimpses with us. If we can recoup what we paid for him then I see no reason to block the move. Herrera is great, and Andreas could step up. Lingard has shown for us and England he can be a very effective midfielder.

Maybe the game in Spain or Italy is more suitable to his style?




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28 Aug 2018 19:41:51
And as it panned out it looked like we played nobody at the back.




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18 Aug 2018 11:22:21
Probably about Wilson’s level.




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15 Aug 2018 19:06:11
Give it to Ole Gunnar under a DoF! Why not!




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12 Aug 2018 22:18:33
Makes sense. Surprised we let TFM go out but may mean Jose will give Shaw a run out for a few games.





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19 Sep 2018 06:54:49
Or how about Sanchez to score a few instead to get him up and running?




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06 Sep 2018 21:54:34
Pog is suited for Italy, maybe Spain at a push. He’s a one in five player at best. We need better, or just okay Ander or Andreas and see how they go instead.

I’d guess Pogba is one of those players who looks so awesome in training that the manager thinks he can’t be dropped. Rarely translates out on the pitch. Back to Juve, wel’ll swap him for Pjanic.




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06 Sep 2018 10:30:48
Amazed Villa haven’t re-signed him for another season. Time for JT to head to the US I’d say.




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04 Sep 2018 15:30:43
Allidsay is if Ander is good enough for Atletico Madrid he’s kid enough for us but he’s never quite pinned down a convincing spot under Jose.




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04 Sep 2018 14:05:59
Thanks Shappy very thorough and makes sense. Let’s be honest, Pogba will be off sooner rather than later so he will get chances.


{Ed002's Note - I expect Ander Herrera to also leave in the club.