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01 Oct 2018 10:50:46
Having read all the posts over the weekend it strikes me we have become a particularly divided and mutinous bunch. I stand guilty as changed. I'm more culpable than most having previously been an avid Mourinho supporter. My mood darkened by another terrible result and abject performance. Unable to see light at the end of the tunnel I allowed myself to fall into a deep depression and sharpened the knife. This isn't good enough right?!

I stand by my posts, I don't think Mourinho can halt this malaise but maybe he didn't need my dagger in his back. This forum is the perfect place to vent our anger and frustration away from prying eyes. The Ed's may laugh at our fickleness, other supporters may take enjoyment from our pain but it's our safe place and we can speak frankly and honestly to each other.

It strikes me that in times of trouble our Club needs our support more than ever (even if most of it is self inflicted) .
We are not victims! So on Tuesday night I will take my seat and sing louder, cheer harder, clap faster. If our manager is unable to motivate our players, if they are unable to inspire themselves then it's incumbent on us to do it for them. We will be around long after Mourinho, Pogba or even our bewildered owners.

If the players and manager can't come together for the fans despite unwavering support then they will meet their own fate. Let's not give them another excuse.

DLIB

1.) 01 Oct 2018 11:12:55
DLIB, that is all very deep mate. But I think that in times of adversity, if you can even call it that, a bit of perspective is needed. At the end of the day, we are talking about a game of football.
There are far more important things going on in the world than United losing a few games of football.


2.) 01 Oct 2018 11:43:23
Spot on Betty a little perspective it's exactly what I need! Your right again keep it coming 👍.


3.) 01 Oct 2018 15:41:37
So who are we going to get once we've sacked "the sulky one'? 😅.


 

 

26 Sep 2018 00:00:41
Going out of the League Cup isn't the end of the world but the performance and manner of the defeat is very disappointing.

Some will argue that Derby were brilliant, that it was a fantastic performance, that they outplayed us for large periods and deserved their victory. The truth is we allowed them to play, we allowed them time and space on the ball, we allowed them to press and were sloppy in possession, we made them look good. One team played with their heart and soul the other looked disinterested. One team ran themselves into the ground, the other sauntered around the pitch. One team played with hunger and commitment the other treated it as a testimonial.

Make no mistake Utd are a better team than Derby but without hunger, desire, energy and commitment it's an uphill battle no matter who the opposition.

Throughout his two year tenure at Utd Mourinho has consistently failed to motivate his players for the mundane, less glamorous fixtures. Defeats to all the newly promoted teams last season, defeats at Bristol City and Sevilla paint their own depressing picture. This trend has continued this season with defeat at Brighton, home draw against Wolves and now defeat to a championship team.

I'm not sure the players have downed tools, a last minute equaliser with 10 men proves otherwise but the standard and quality of the football is poor. The tactics are dour and uninspiring. If Derby can play like 1970's Brazil then why can't Utd with much better players?

Mourinho is still a good coach but he's struggling to adapt at Club devoid of any real winners but refuse to play as underdogs. He has attempted to dampen expectation rather than embrace it. He's failed to impose his siege mentality. These current players don't want to fight the world, they refuse to go to war, the fans don't want to see dogged football. We aspire to be better than that. Winning at all costs or by any means are not synonymous with a Club than conquered Europe from the ashes of Munich playing with bravery, flair and imagination. We've seen tonight that it's possible for a team to play good football despite not having the best players. All that's required is a vision and commitment to play the game the right way and the bravery and courage to execute it. Since Fergi retired the emphasis has been about stopping the opposition rather than playing on the front foot. About avoiding defeat rather than winning, about not conceding rather than scoring, about defence rather than attack. We play with fear and self doubt rather than confidence and composure.

Mourinho is a winner but his methods are outdated and he's struggling to adapt to the modern player. The real men of football are a dying breed. Only the strongest thrive from constant criticism. Modern egos need massaging not provoking. They need to feel wanted and valued not used and abused, they are not a commodity to be cast aside so the manager can flex his muscles and score cheap points in the hope of provoking a reaction. All the mind games, relentless criticism, tough love must eventually become exhausting for even the toughest of characters.

Maybe Mourinho needs to leave Utd for the sake of his own career, for the sake of his own sanity and happiness. It's now even obvious to me one of his staunchest supporters that this marriage of convenience is coming to an end. There have been some good times, success even but it was never built to last.

For Utd the search continues.

DLIB

1.) 26 Sep 2018 08:21:54
DLIB

Excellent post covering everything. After dropping points at home to Wolves a home game against Derby is just what the doctor ordered to get Wolves out of your system. No disrespect to Derby but that Manchester United should be beating them at home and not allowing them play and dictate the game.


2.) 26 Sep 2018 08:59:26
Great post mate.


 

 

16 Sep 2018 17:30:01
Afternoon guys,

Delighted to get the three points yesterday in a tough fixture especially after the international break.

Fellaini playing just in front of the back 4 has proved a master stroke in the last two away games. He's played so deep he's virtually been a third centre back which has enabled our full backs to play further forward and provide some natural width. It's also allowed Lingard and Sanchez to play closer to Lukaku where we've looked more dangerous and created chances. Yesterday wasn't vintage by anyone's standards but we looked solid and started well. It's encouraging to know that when we take the lead we invariably win so it's vitally important we start well and try to score first.

Whilst Fellaini has proved a formidable weapon against the more physical and direct sides I think we all know this wouldn't necessarily work against teams that like to move the ball quickly where he can be easily out manoeuvred or against teams that like to press high where he's not good enough in possession. In these games maybe a slight tweak in his position is required. He needs to play higher up the pitch where we can use his height and physicality to play over the press and in a more advanced role he can arrive in the box where he becomes a real threat and handful for opposition defenders.

I think we've seen in recent games a commitment to move the ball quicker with Lukaku playing on the shoulder and making more penetrating runs in behind, stretching the opposition rather than operating more as a target man. This has allowed more space for the likes of Lingard, Sanchez and Pogba to operate. Another feature has been our fullbacks playing higher and providing more natural width. Shaw has been a breath of fresh air and with Dalot returning to fitness maybe just maybe we may finally have the fullbacks we've craved for some time. Two young naturally gifted direct fullbacks that can provide width, pace and put quality deliveries into the box.

We still need to improve and by no means am I getting carried away. Such has been the standard set by City two early defeats probably means a title challenge is unlikely even at this early stage. It's encouraging to see however we that we may finally be settling on a preferred formation and staring 11. In recent games the team has definitely played higher, Lukaku has made more penetrating runs with Lingard and Sanchez closer in support rather than being dragged back into full back positions.

Perhaps our two most maligned players Smalling and Fellaini have provided us with the stability and balance we've craved allowing other players the platform to play and improve.

I've definitely seen in the past two games and the first half against Spurs a slight tweak to the way we play. Lukaku has definitely made more forward runs with Sanchez and Lingard playing much higher in support. Perhaps the next evolution might just come from two young full backs full-filling their potential. Maybe for the first time since Jose arrived we can safely predict the formation and perhaps 9 or even 10 of our best 11. It's now up to the likes of Bailly, Fred, Dalot, Martial and Rashford to force their way into the side. Perhaps we can be cautiously optimistic about a more exciting brand of football at the very least. Maybe the influence of Carrick and Mckenna is slowly starting to take effect.

I think we all understand building a winning team takes time and patience. Not all signings will make an impact or hit the ground running. Perhaps Jose biggest mistake has been to settle on a preferred formation or style of play. Hopefully that's about to change with the assistance of two new young coaches brining new ideas to the table.

DLIB

1.) 16 Sep 2018 20:00:18
It’s all a bit odd isn’t it? We played pretty well against Spurs and on another day would have been easy winners. What a difference that one result would have made to how we are feeling. We do seem to be coming out of our malaise and a few players are stepping up, in patches we look very good. We just need those patches to be longer.


2.) 16 Sep 2018 20:53:34
Tony, two good centre backs and another striker/ winger and this team will look completely different.


3.) 16 Sep 2018 21:24:07
1cb and a rb and rw for me AAA i'm really hoping dalot turns out to be a worldie🤞.


4.) 16 Sep 2018 22:27:17
I’m just liking that we seem to be playing with a little bit more of a clear plan going forward. Carrick and McKenna could be a blessing for Jose.


5.) 16 Sep 2018 23:34:46
Great post dlib. Agree with a lot if it.


 

 

27 Aug 2018 23:53:41
What I'm going to say might shock a few people, it might even make some laugh but that performance wasn't half as bad as the score line suggests.

The first half was good. We played with passion, desire, intensity, hunger. We played with energy, dynamism, movement. We pressed Spurs and created changes. In fact we created more chances in that first half than we have in our last three competitive games combined against Chelsea (Fa Cup Final), Leicester and Brighton. The wing backs provided width and got forward well. Lingard pressed brilliantly from the front and provided good support for Lukaku. Fred brought good energy, movement and creativity to the midfield. We should have gone in at HT at least two goals up.

We don't normally play with such intensity and tired quickly in the second half. We we're a second slower to the ball and more importantly our minds tired even faster and we lost concentration. The opening goal killed us. Spurs grew whilst we looked burdened by pressure. We continued to try and press but is now looked desperate and frantic. We panicked and went to pieces.

Despite the humbling defeat the hunger and appetite of the players was in stark contrast to the Brighton defeat where it was slow, lethargic and weak. The players came out fighting tonight but a combination of poor finishing, fatigue, mental fragility and individual mistakes cost us the game.

Moving forward I liked the system, we played with energy, intensity and creativity. I think playing three at the back gives us more natural width and gets more players forward in support of Lukaku. I'd like to see us play 3-5-2 for the remainder of the season. Play with the same intensity, energy and desire and see where that takes us.

This is not the time for division or treachery. We shall not flag or fail. The manager, the Club, the players need our support now more than ever. I didn't see a team divided, not giving their all or not playing for the manager. It was a bad night that's all. We've seen them before but the sun will rise in the morning and we'll try again. We'll never die!

DLIB

1.) 28 Aug 2018 01:50:37
I’m a Liverpool supporter and I’ve got to say Man U looked good first half and looked like they were going for it just poor finishing let you down. second half the defence just crumbled Under a little bit of pressure Wich I personally believe is down to the way Mourinho as acted the last 2 months has given them defenders 0% confidence . 😉 just an outside perspective looking in .


2.) 28 Aug 2018 06:14:10
The club is rotten from top to bottom. Owners who aren’t interested in glory, a manager who is living in the past nobody cares you have won 3 premier leagues Mr Mourinho except you and the Chelsea fans. Ovepayed premadonna players. Ideally we need new owners and a new manager but that won’t happen so I honestly don’t know what is going to happen. At least we haven’t got Blackpool’s owners where I’m from because I’m sure they’d of been lynched if they had of been. No matter what happens Utd will never die keep the red flag flying high.


3.) 28 Aug 2018 09:18:59
We played ok first half but I've got to be honest it felt a little bit like the last role of the dice .

Herrera at cb? He was all over the place, turning up on the edge of the spurs box time and again .

Positives smalling done well although he got done by moura, Jose has said he doesn't know his best cb pair, which is a sin from a manager in his third year .
But he also said it will smalling and 1 other .
The other positive was Shaw who was excellent, very good a player people have constantly posted isn't good enough and should be sold .


4.) 28 Aug 2018 10:53:41
Exactly JRED
We did okay and lost. Can't we just play very well and win just like the other top teams?

Mou is on is third season how long will take make this team play like this week in week out? Another 500M and 3 more seasons?
That's not good enough for United.


 

 

09 Aug 2018 21:05:13
The arrogance, naivety and complacency have returned to haunt us once again.

This windows spending has been significantly curtailed just as we started to build some momentum towards assembling a side capable of challenging for the title. This was the window to profligate not consolidate.

I've maintained all along that the board are only interested in top 4 finishes and don't see the need to overspend chasing titles when the brand is doing just fine without them.

The irony to this sad story can be seen shining like a huge beacon of hope twinkling like the North Star high above Anfield. Mr Kloop, the self proclaimed saviour of football
once ridiculed Utd for signing Pogba and accused us of ruining football. He said he'd call it a day before paying such extraordinary fees and stated he longed to do things differently. In fact he professed he wouldn't spend the money even if it was available. Strong words indeed. A man of honour and principle in a world of sharks and obscene extravagance. Since his philosophic scripture he's broken the transfer records for a defender and a goalkeeper in less than 6 months. Just let that sink it. It would appear the penny has finally dropped with Mr Klopp. Honour and Principles do not win titles. Maybe he is the one now ruining football? Of course not he's merely changed his mantra. If you can't beat them join them. Liverpool have built on their success of last season we've just screeched to a dramatic stop.

Don't be fooled the team that spends the most money predominantly wins the titles. An man even as principled as Mr Kloop gets it, why don't our board or even some of our fans?

No doubt I'll get some stick for this post, be told we've spent millions but I say to those people WHY shouldn't we and if we want to WIN it's an absolute necessity. Has Pep transformed City using charisma alone? I reiterate If Mr Kloop now gets it why don't we?

We are the second most valuable sports brand in the world. We have the highest turnover in world football. This money is generated by our fans why shouldn't we expect for it to be invested back into the Club?

The Glazers will not bring the glory days back to Old Trafford. We now await the next messiah, the next genius, the next great man capable of doing what others can't. Guess what we could be in for a long wait.

DLIB

1.) 09 Aug 2018 22:26:30
One dodgy window and we’re doomed. Pogba was a world record, Sanchez is probably the top earner in the EPL, big money has been spent. If we’d bought Sandro would that have made things OK? I think he’s dodgy. How about Maguire? £50M for a defender who can’t defend. The club coughed up for Bailly and then Lindelof, both of whom it seems are now not good enough. How many CBs do we buy before we thInk about developing the ones we have.

The odd decision here was giving ajose a new contract. There are clearly issues on both sides so why on Earth did we give him a new deal?

As for the League, City will be strong and if Liverpool’s new signings settle (no guarantees) they could challenge. Spurs have signed nobody, Arsenal were a long way off last year, and Chelsea have a new coach and a new style to adapt to.

We may not win the league but we will be up there and if Fred settles well, Pogba steps up, and Sanchez shows his form, then we will be in there.

DLIB, I enjoy you your osts, they are well thought through and quality but in this case, you need to get over it mate.


2.) 09 Aug 2018 22:26:30
One dodgy window and we’re doomed. Pogba was a world record, Sanchez is probably the top earner in the EPL, big money has been spent. If we’d bought Sandro would that have made things OK? I think he’s dodgy. How about Maguire? £50M for a defender who can’t defend. The club coughed up for Bailly and then Lindelof, both of whom it seems are now not good enough. How many CBs do we buy before we thInk about developing the ones we have.

The odd decision here was giving ajose a new contract. There are clearly issues on both sides so why on Earth did we give him a new deal?

As for the League, City will be strong and if Liverpool’s new signings settle (no guarantees) they could challenge. Spurs have signed nobody, Arsenal were a long way off last year, and Chelsea have a new coach and a new style to adapt to.

We may not win the league but we will be up there and if Fred settles well, Pogba steps up, and Sanchez shows his form, then we will be in there.

DLIB, I enjoy you your osts, they are well thought through and quality but in this case, you need to get over it mate.


3.) 09 Aug 2018 22:30:16
Excellent post DLIB. i think the football passion of our owners is next to zero and that shows. They have lacked leadership and although they have achieved their financial goals, i can't help but think that they would have achieved even more had they had a clear direction on the field that would've enhanced the brand even further.
I said recently that the millions of fans around the world can support who they want, and they normally choose successful and entertaining teams, if that part of the equation is removed, then they will soon find out how fickle they've been in not taking the footballing side seriously.


4.) 09 Aug 2018 22:31:52
What a load of nonsense. Shining like a star? Never read so much rubbish.

I sound and feel like Roy Keane after responding to this tripe.

Go and support your flavour of the month the amazing and trophy less Herr Klopp.


5.) 09 Aug 2018 22:56:41
DLIB u talk a lot of nonsense mate. Ed2 has said numerous times glazers have spent HUGE AMOUNTS OF MONEY AND STILL ARE WILLING TO SPEND.

Problem is your manager is bent on spending on ageing players where in 1/ 2 yrs time you'll need to spend again to replace them.

Even the likes of city w/ all their spending power are still spending sensibly.

No business/ club including utd w/ all their financial mussel can afford to spend 300/ 400M every couple of seasons on ageing players.

It's seems your board have drawn a sensible line and they know the squad isn't as bad as your manager wants people to believe. U don't need to beat city or Chelsea or LFC directly to challenge/ win league tittle. It's midtable teams where u need to beat them and your squad is super strong compare to them.


6.) 09 Aug 2018 23:32:29
AJH - I was just trying to illustrate a point about ambition. I even posted earlier in the summer that I was relaxed about the window and didn't think we needed to spend just for the sake of it, that Jose needed to get the best out of some talented players that had underperformed and I stand by that. Having said that there are obvious deficiencies in the squad which haven't been addressed for which I am disappointed. Forget CB, Jose has signed two and I believe both are good players and deserve a chance. We needed a LB and above all a RW in my opinion to bring some balance to the team. These positions have not been strengthened and if they had we'd have a better chance. I'm not asking for them to break the bank I am realistic. It was hard to invest in those areas when we spent big money on Pogba and Lukaku in previous windows but this was a chance to improve those areas. Don't forget between 2009 - 2013 they invested very little in the squad.

Eric - Bit harsh mate I was only trying to describe the irony of Klopp's words but fair enough.

AAA - I agree mate.

Kopitef - Your entitled to your opinion mate. I'm not advocating that the Glazers break the bank just spend as much as you have pal.


 

 

 

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08 Oct 2018 13:08:24
Yeah your probably right Ed001. Pie in the sky talk really just thinking out loud thanks for your reply!

DLIB

{Ed001's Note - it is difficult because you don't want to push out a legend like Fergie, but sometimes you have to.}


 

 

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08 Oct 2018 10:24:18
Ed001 - I think that is superb reply and I totally agree with you about SAF. It is my understanding that as his career progressed he took a step back and became a brilliant delegator. He regularly changed his assistants and coaching staff to freshen things up, implement new ideas and keep the players motivated. He became more of an observer which gave him the advantage of being able to assess exactly what was going on at the football Club.

I think you hit the nail on the head when you said any new DOF will become the most important person at the Club most certainly from a footballing perspective anyway. They will drive the footballing strategy and vision.

I was always slightly curious why we couldn't have adopted this approach when SAF retired. I think he could have remained in post for a couple of seasons as a figurehead whilst Moyes took control of the team. He would have been a valuable asset and maybe he could have been more actively involved in player recruitment aiding both Moyes and Woodward through a difficult first window. I'd have liked to have seen a slower more measured transition where Moyes was approached and offered the job as head coach ultimately taking the main role the following season or even the season after. It might just have given the Club time to find its feet and put measures in place to fill the massive void when SAF eventually retired. Of course this is all just pie in the sky reasoning but ultimately the great man was always going to retire and maybe his biggest legacy could have been overseeing the next step and ensuring the Club continued to dominate rather than just leaving a vacuous hole they have been unable to fill. Johan Cruyff left Barcelona with a footballing philosophy which has endured for decades even after his untimely death. He has provided the Club with a blueprint and recipe for continued success. I'd have like to have seen Utd follow suit with SAF engineering and planning his own retirement and legacy rather than just leaving suddenly. Of course this all sounds great in theory but I appreciate in reality it's easier said than done. Maybe he just couldn't commit any more of his time and things happened suddenly which we're out of his control. Its all ancient history now anyway.

DLIB

{Ed001's Note - I think the problem you had was that Fergie was still around and it never works out when the previous, legendary, manager is still around. Busby stepped upstairs and it didn't help at all. Shankly was causing a similar issue at Liverpool after he quit, so he was asked to stay away. Cruyff went off to rebuild Ajax (if I remember correctly) so he was not there overshadowing his successors. Fergie is too strong a character to just put him to one side, unlike Paisley, for example, who acted as advisor when Dalglish was first appointed up until he fully retired in 1989 and then it all fell apart for Liverpool without him. When you have someone as strong as Fergie, it has to be a clean break or his shadow is over everything.

Your biggest problem was that he was in control of pretty much everything at the club. Great while he was there, but the minute he went it left a massive power vacuum that Eddy Woodwouldward could never hope to fill and Moyes had no intention of getting involved to that degree of micro-management. So you were left with a lot of people who no longer knew who to report to.}


 

 

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26 Jul 2018 16:25:54
Shappy - The exotic name thing wasn't aimed at you pal. In hindsight I should have omitted that. I just think Maguire is universally underrated on here but by no means am I saying he's the finished article. I think he'd be a decent signing but I understand your reservations and take your point about him maybe not being a major upgrade on we've already got. Anyway this site would be a boring place if we all had the same opinion.

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26 Jul 2018 12:01:27
I take your point Shappy but I think McGuire has come in for some undue criticism to be honest.

It remains to be seen if he's a viable target but I think he'd be a solid addition to our team. From what I've seen he's big, strong, very good in the air and good with the ball. He maybe lacks a yard of pace and I've heard people criticise his positioning at times but that's something that can be worked on and will prove with experience. I think he's better than what we've got (maybe Bailly apart) . He's got good pedigree and actually played in the FA youth Cup final against us with the likes of Pogba and Lingard. He's continued to improve at both Hull then Leicester and maybe he deserves a chance to play at a higher level. Sometimes we get seduced by more exotic names but I think he's a good solid player, at the right age that will continue to improve.

I think Lindelof was signed for the right reasons but I just think he lacks the physicality for the Prem League. If Jose isn't going to play him then maybe now is the time to cash in. He's had a good World Cup and I'm sure we'd get our money back at least. I'd definitely cash in on Rojo. He's perpetually injured and apart from a 15-20 game spell where he looked half decent playing next to Jones he's been pretty unspectacular to say the least. I think both Smalling and Jones are solid squad players and have served the club well. I fully agree about Tuanzebe but I'm not sure he's ready just yet.

In relation to the Martial saga just let the boy move on. It's obvious he isn't going to flourish under Mourinho and I see little point in keeping a player that is unhappy and isn't going to help the team. He may develop into a very good player but at the moment he's just not quite there and has shown little interest in fighting for his place. His next move will be crucial and if he's hankering for a move to the likes of Real or Bayern I'm certain he'll find himself in exactly the same position.

Maybe some kind of swap deal with Spurs for Son Heung-Min would interest all parties. He works tirelessly, he can play in any position across the top three including striker and scores goals.

Utd need to start getting creative if we want to see some transfer activity this summer.

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21 Oct 2018 12:52:04
Red Man/ DSG - I think you both make good points.

I don't think anyone has ever questioned Martial's talent. He is undoubtedly a brilliant and clinical finisher. The problem has been consistency and perhaps a questionable attitude at times. This is not unusual with young players but we're relying on him to produce the goods now and that's been the problem. Whenever he's been left out of the team it's always felt like he's being punished rather than protected and nurtured.

We've seen some extraordinary players mature and develop at our Club over the years from the Busby Babes to the Class of 92 to Rooney and Ronaldo and many more along the way. We all recognise and understand talent when we see it. SAF always demonstrated great faith in young players but his success at the Club bought him time and patience.

The point about Mourinho is pertinent. I think if he wants to be successful at Utd then he will have to be patient and play the long game. He came to Utd with a glistening CV, the self proclaimed Special One capable of recapturing past glories and chasing the noisy neighbours out of Town.

The problem was Utd weren't ready. We'd fallen behind. We had an unbalanced squad of average players littered with some very promising youngsters. This was never a quick fix. The younger players needed nurturing and patience. Recruitment needed to be intelligent and sensible. The re build slow and steady, piece by piece, brick by brick. Mourinho probably still hurting from his Chelsea catastrophe and fuelled by his own ego failed to recognise that success couldn't be achieved over night and he grew angry and frustrated.

The key to our future success rests at the feet of the likes of Shaw, Martial, Rashford, Bailly even Pogba (if he sticks around) . Recruitment should have been based around helping, nurturing and getting the best out of them not replacing them. Rojo, Darmian, Fellaini, Maybe even Smalling and Jones were the players that needed replacing.

By chasing success we have ignored the very principle's that got us there in the first place. Patience, trusting in youth and a commitment to attacking football.

Maybe the penny has finally dropped. The last couple of games have seen a return to the old Utd. Thrilling come backs, filled with drama and entertainment. I'm not sure we've ever really played beautiful football but it's always been thrilling and unpredictable and perhaps that's always been our biggest draw.

If a line in the sand can be drawn, if a deeper understanding of our style and tradition can be gauged, if the politics of the Club can be overcome, if patience and restraint can triumph over ego and self importance then I see no reason why this marriage of convenience can't enjoy some happy years together. Maybe the bigger issue is has the damage already been done? Time will tell I suppose.

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20 Oct 2018 20:10:32
Jred - I agree re 4-2-3-1 and in relation to Sanchez I think he might just give us more mobility and guile up front! Yes he's been very disappointing so far but he looked so sharp playing up front in pre season and perhaps more importantly forged an almost telephonic understanding with Mata. In fact the only good thing about pre season was those two!

If we play 4-2-3-1 and give Mata a chance at 10 we might just stumble onto something really good. Lukaku's had a dip in form, he's not giving us much at the moment so why not give it a try?! If Sanchez is poor bring him off and it might just jolt Lukaku back into action.

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20 Oct 2018 18:25:57
Park - I agree although I thought Lukaku looked better in the second half! I'm not convinced about Rashford on the right either.

I think Martial and Rashford should continue to push each other on the left. I'd give Sanchez a chance up front as I don't think Lukaku is offering us that much at the moment. I think Mata deserves a chance at 10. Can't help thinking we might have wasted a very good player in that position over the years. We've got Lingard that can play at 10 as well. I think we're weak on the right and can't see an obvious solution maybe Pereira or even Chong!

Jred - I agree about Pogba mate. He's brave and courageous on the ball I think we just have to accept that he can fall asleep defensively at times and hope he influences the game enough to cover for his lapses in concentration.

I don't think anyone was expecting us to line up in a 4-2-3-1 formation today. I think it was so Mata could stop Jorginho influencing the game and playing a third deeper midfielder would have give him too much time and space.

Moving forward maybe we should revert to that formation. Thinking back to the start of last season it was a Matic-Pogba axis in midfield with Martial and Rashford pushing each other from the left which had us playing the best football under Jose. The wheels fell off when Pogba got injured and we had a few bad results including City beating us at home. Some consistency in team selection and formation might just help us build some momentum on the back of two very good second half performances. It's going to take a monumental effort just to get into the top 4 and clinging on today would have been a great start. I guess all we can do now is hope for a run of good results and ask some questions of the teams above us!

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20 Oct 2018 15:44:17
Sorry my last post is vitriol nonsense nothing more than hot air born out of frustration! I'm just fuming with that last minute equaliser and it's probable consequences in such a vital game! Hang on for another 60 seconds and our season looks so much brighter. I'm even giving myself the thumbs down 👎.

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20 Oct 2018 15:25:43
That is not a good point when your a goal ahead in the final minute of injury time and you leave their best header of the ball totally unmarked at the back post when your clinging onto the coat tails of everybody else for dear life.

I fully expect us to be 7 points behind the top 4 after the weekend and we're not even in November yet!

Taken out of context a draw might look good but after terrible away defeats to Brighton and West Ham we simply had to hold on for the win today!

More amateurish defending in the final minute it wasn't even a surprise. But hey I suppose a point is ok if we want to stay ahead of Wolves and Watford I don't expect them to get anything at the Bridge!

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