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14 Aug 2019 11:36:53
What's with all the Luke Shaw bashing all of a sudden?
Being in a settled back 4 after a tough pre season I predict he'll have another good season for us.
Player of the year last year and now so many have made their minds up that he's not good enough, don't get it.

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14 Aug 2019 12:04:04
Me neither, some of these guys here are something else.

14 Aug 2019 12:38:32
Will i think shaw was much improved last season just like lindelof.
I think he should be 1st chiice lb at the moment. Squirting a new lb wad not necessary this summer as we had more urgent postings like cb rb.
Young and dalot are providing cover. I think next summer we will replace young and get someone to provide real commotion for shaw.
He is here 5 years nearly. Injured for best part of 2 and has come back ok. Not great but improving. If the improvement stalls then he will be replaced if not he won't be.
Being poy is no great achievement last year. It was beteeen him and lindelof. So our 2 best players were part of the worst defence for 30 odd years.
Everybody starts from scratch in a new season he needs to be better than last year. He can be but he has to prove that.

14 Aug 2019 13:20:46
I agree there is room for improvement and he is behind where we all expected him to be at this stage of his career, given his promising start. He's not too committed to his diet and fitness are the noises coming out of the club.

However, the criticism on here is unjustified. We won so the doom mongers need something new to complain about. They will cycle through players as the season goes on. The more we win the more obscure the subject of criticism. Like last year when Ole first arrived and we were winning every game, the big hate target was our shirt sponsor. Totally bonkers some people.

14 Aug 2019 14:03:46
I was merely pointing out that he is poor positional. Its something I've said before a few times.

I wanted Utd to sign Tierney so that they would provide competition for each other. That in turn would take both to the next level.

14 Aug 2019 14:54:59
I don't think most people are criticising him after 1 match. What i suggested and meant is looking for a cover for LB next season and a LB who can push him for his place in 1st team.

14 Aug 2019 15:39:23
Jose already working his magic from his punditry seat. I think we all know Shaw is suspect at the back and neither Rashford nor Martial are best suited tracking back. But we want our fullbacks getting forward, that's kind of the point. We just have to be adaptable when teams keep targeting that issue, we need a resolution for when that happens during the game. Not just ditch the player. All fullbacks get caught out of position, it's about limiting the amount of times it happens.

14 Aug 2019 16:00:58
Yes MH, i was wanting KT too.

14 Aug 2019 18:39:37
Just his turn it seems m. Rashford, Lingard have both had it. Won’t be long before they turn on AWB. Ignore them.

14 Aug 2019 15:39:23
Jose already working his magic from his punditry seat. I think we all know Shaw is suspect at the back and neither Rashford nor Martial are best suited tracking back. But we want our fullbacks getting forward, that's kind of the point. We just have to be adaptable when teams keep targeting that issue, we need a resolution for when that happens during the game. Not just ditch the player. All fullbacks get caught out of position, it's about limiting the amount of times it happens.

14 Aug 2019 16:00:58
Yes MH, i was wanting KT too.

14 Aug 2019 19:12:24
I think Shaw bashing is just a horrible symptom of the hardiness and persistence of MU toxics.
Glass is always half empty and the grass is always greener somewhere else.

{Ed001's Note - or it could just be that he is not actually very good? I don't get this one-eyed defence of dross players who have let your team down repeatedly but you still don't see they are not good enough.}

14 Aug 2019 19:28:06
People will soon change there tune and move on. Maguire was average a week ago .

14 Aug 2019 20:14:11
I don't thinks its neccesarily bashing but luke shaw is now the weakest member of our back 5. He most definitely needs competition as he has been known to take his foot off the pedal and over indulge.

Are young and dalot both playing out of position at left back suitable competition? probably not. It is something that will need to be adressed next summer when young presumably leaves.

In my opinion we should go for chilwell and let him and shaw battle it out for the left back spot like dalot and wan bissaka are for the right back spot. Chilwell and AWB as starters and dalot/ shaw as back up would see the full back department sorted for a long time.

14 Aug 2019 20:29:51
It's been a struggle the last few years to find a pair of shorts to fit Shaw the last couple of seasons lol, seriously though, i hope he continues on his good run of form.

14 Aug 2019 20:33:32
Probably because he's been overweight for most of his United career. The least a professional player on those wages can do is stay in shape. Rooney got pelters for it. And if you look back just a week or two ago so did Lukaku.

14 Aug 2019 20:40:14
Shaw isn't getting bashed.
I'm merely stating an area of improvement that he needs to work on. Ataxking wise he can be brilliant. I like him as a player, but I'm not sure Youbg will drive him on and take him to the next level.

14 Aug 2019 21:05:45
When shaw has a good game next week does someone else become the weakest link? How does it work .
Amazing how people need to look for a negative .
Doom and gloom for weeks we win 4.0 need to find a negative.

14 Aug 2019 21:17:42
Nothing wrong with a shout of critisism particularly constructive. Also nothing wrong with a bit of amature analysis.
Nothing wrong with seeing something different than somebody else.
Why do people get touchy.
Its said on her a lot. ' i don't get the hate for' or ' people are throwing abuse on here for x player"
Nobody really hates these players so it a hyberbole word used by some posters to over emphasise a point. Nobody abusers players on here either.
No problem debating your points but possesses don't tell others how to think.
Eric is bang on either ignite them ir put your point of view across but everyone is entitled to their opinion.

14 Aug 2019 21:49:35
Ignite them would be a bit harsh i think Eric said ignore. aaaghh samsung swipe.

14 Aug 2019 22:34:29
I'm not a massive fan of shaw. I think he is unprofessional and isn't a great LB, positional sense is all over the place. But that would be me bashing a player and I wouldn't want to do that 😊.

14 Aug 2019 23:57:38
Squirting a new lb wad?

Guess we know what attracts Ken to the game.

14 Aug 2019 23:59:33
That's not bashing angel its a commonly held view.
I agree with you.
However he was rated a lot higher than he has shown so far.
He showed enough improvement last year to suggest he can improve again this year.
He did miss 2 years so you must take that into account.
However if he does not improve or even falls back a bit into old habits then its curtains for me.
But as i said he did enough last year to suggest he can be even better this year. Having maguire will help him. He is off the naughty step for me at the moment but he doesn't have a lot of brownie points in the bank i think its fair to say.
I thought he was ok on Sunday got left isolated not his fault he cited ok In the main. One bad one but not his fault entirely. 2v1 you make a gamble.
Like martial and 1 or 2 others. The choice is their own. Work hard stay in the team o r pi## off.
There is no hiding place anymore. If they do work hard they will reap the benefits. Only the truly dumb players can't see that.

14 Aug 2019 23:37:40
Exactly ed002, shaw just isn't that good. It's the same as Lingard, massively overrated. probably because they are English.

15 Aug 2019 08:48:38
The same people will move on to someone else next week, fir some reason rarely have a positive point .
Simple fact is looking at posts some spend most there time having a go at a certain player.
With little attempt to look at the bigger picture.
There will be people who talk about nothing but the same 3 players all season ignoring anything else but looking for something to justify there previous opinion.
But each to there own.







 

 

 
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