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23 Jul 2022 15:23:45
Ed002.
A question I've been asking you for 3 years now and I know it's a player you have said you feel would be a better fit than fdj. I've said ideally I'd like them both to sign.
SMS, and I know you have said he is a possible alternative. But there has been little mention of him in the press for last few weeks until again they appeared this morning.
Have we stepped up or made contact recently with lazio or his agent? Or is this rehashing of old stories?
If you heard anything new it would be music to my ears.
Ta.

ken

{Ed002's Note - He is an alternative to FdJ. That is all I know.}


1.) 23 Jul 2022 16:24:18
Thanks ed002.


 

 

18 Jul 2022 17:03:05
Ed 002 interesting reply down below on the French rb Clauss.
Outside the elite players or obvious starters. Do the players look for assured game time in order to sign?
Would a player like clauss looking at coming to united not look at who's here and back himself to compete and win the position?
I'm sure there are some players who sign well aware they will be cover but I'm not sure there is a clear starter at rb at united.
Thanks for any insight perhaps I'm just a little old school for the modern player.
Thanks also for your updates opinions and clarity on all the gossip and rumour.

ken

{Ed002's Note - He would want to be starter. He is no youngster.}


1.) 18 Jul 2022 17:58:18
Be wanting a World Cup spot to so will be wanting to play regularly too I’d imagine.


2.) 18 Jul 2022 18:03:29
Scrap that, just seen 02 mention his French place below.


3.) 18 Jul 2022 21:11:30
If there is one Lens player we are going for it should be Seko Fofana. Underrated and a few of the bigger sides across Europe could do far worse than him.


4.) 18 Jul 2022 21:22:49
Dumfries please.


5.) 19 Jul 2022 10:04:55
Clauss came out of nowhere, next day he is signing for Marseille. We do get linked to so many players that in reality are non starters.


 

 

09 Jul 2022 20:15:33
Ed002 thanks for all your info.
Are united showing interest in Strakosha the lazio keeper from last season who I read is out of contract as a replacement for Henderson?

ken

{Ed002's Note - Thomas Strakosha (G) Out of contract - Free Agent in the Summer. Fulham are very keen. Chelsea offer an option as a number 2 GK. Roma and Manchester United have made general enquiries wil his agent.}


1.) 09 Jul 2022 23:37:06
Thanks Ed.
Do you have any idea if ericksen has agreed to sign?
1 more if I may
Do you know if the club have a preferred plan B (you have mentioned YT neves and sms in the past) to Fdj or, are they still of the belief they can sign him and eggs firmly in that basket so to speak?
Seems high risk with other clubs obviously looking at those possible targets unless we are prepared to meet the demands of Barcelona.
Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - CA can be completed. YT is of interest to others as well. I have explained SMS may be an option as well.}


2.) 10 Jul 2022 07:50:53
Forgive me as I might be a tad naive here, but what’s the deal with Eriksen? Reports are that he’s agreed to come to us but that was last week. I’d have thought he’d have been signed and sealed by now. What’s the exact situation concerning him? Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - I would expect something can be done.}


 

 

08 Jun 2022 17:43:51
Ed002. I note you gave potentially in your opinion some obtainable targets below.
You mentioned either fdj or sms.
Can I ask in your opinion who do you think is better suited to the epl and united at this time.
Imo both players are quite different in the way they play for their current clubs.
Both are very good technically imo. I hope we do get one of them preferably both but that's a double pipe dream.
Cheers.

ken

{Ed002's Note - SMS}


1.) 08 Jun 2022 19:22:11
I agree with Ed. I really don't think FDJ is the guy, nor do I think he suits the league at all. Feel like we are wasting our time, whilst neglecting other areas that need reinforcing. Same old United.


2.) 08 Jun 2022 19:24:02
If I had to go for one Ken it would be De Jong. I think he was outstanding in that Ajax side. He progressed the ball so well, was always showing for the ball and ultimately was brave in his play.

I’ve not seen enough of SMS, but from what I have seen he looks better in the final third a bit like pogba, whereas de Jong will help us control the midfield a bit more I think.


3.) 08 Jun 2022 19:36:57
Ed you were spot on with the Inter defender news. Legend.


4.) 08 Jun 2022 20:23:43
Ed - one more for today, are rumours accurate that we’ve submitted a bid for FDJ? €60m plus add ons is the rumour?

Will this be enough?

{Ed002's Note - I don’t know. I know who to ask tomorrow.}


5.) 08 Jun 2022 20:50:13
Will knock on your digital door again tomorrow! Have a great evening.


6.) 08 Jun 2022 23:16:28
Caolan. As I said tj have very different attributes but can play anywhere you ask them in midfield. Both technically super. Sms is physically imposing and his touch and timing are really good.
I tend to agree that if eth wants someone to be the fulcrum of the team like a pirlo Scholes xavi thiago type playmaker then fdj looks more suited to my amateur eye. I'd love them both to be honest but we know that's not a possibility.
Hope we get one of them as I think both are a huge step up from what we have.


7.) 08 Jun 2022 23:28:04
Elvis, I’m not sure Ed said that. FDJ is better than all of our other midfielders, he’s also the man our new manager wants to build the team around, so he will do for me.


8.) 09 Jun 2022 00:32:55
Ken I’d say you could probably name a good 20+ players who would be an upgrade on our midfield ?.


9.) 09 Jun 2022 09:15:01
20+ is a very conservative estimate Caolan. 100+ is very possible.


10.) 09 Jun 2022 11:05:39
Missed a zero Rj!


 

 

04 Jun 2022 12:54:37
Good afternoon ed002.
Reports yesterday that bailly and tuanzebe will join the list of players made available for transfer along with Awb Henderson and telles pereira and potentially Dalot.
Firstly do you know if these reports are accurate and secondly has their been any interest shown in any of those 6.
Mata matic pogba grant Jessie plus some or all of the above would be a huge amount of churn in one widow albeit very necessary imo.
Finally do you know is there any other players apart from the above that the club are willing to listen to offers for?
Cheers.

ken

{Ed002's Note - The answers can be found by searching - I have answered all of these.}


1.) 04 Jun 2022 13:22:37
It is a lot of players to leave in one window, and that is in addition to embedding EtH new system. I am prepared that we may struggle at first, I am not bothered by that if the club is doing what it needs to get back to challenging in the medium term.

As Ken says it's necessary, not one of those players I believe will be in a team that challenges again so even if we ended up a bit short for a window it's not a big issue for me when thinking long term.


2.) 04 Jun 2022 13:48:11
Hope Rashford, Martial and Maguire also join the potential exit list. Probably one of AWB/ Dalot will be retained unless ETH brings a high quality RB and he found a good one in youth team as backup.


3.) 04 Jun 2022 14:32:02
I think Radhford will be part of his plans and he’s already (perhaps worryingly) said he thinks Maguire is a very good player. Martial however… hopefully some club will be crazy enough to move for him although I don’t know why, he did nothing out on loan either.


4.) 04 Jun 2022 14:31:26
We definitely need this sort of clear out within the squad, however, as has been said above, it is a lot of turnover in one summer. Not just the amount of players we're losing but the experience of those as well. Lingard, Matic, Mata, Pogba etc may not be everyone's favourites and some may be the players we want to leave but they have all played for a long time at the highest level and won a lot of trophies between them.

I think we would be wise to sign an older player or 2 who can come in a contribute for a couple of seasons in a similar way to how someone like Milner has for Liverpool or others have in the past for us.


5.) 04 Jun 2022 14:43:50
From what I've heard/ read Dalot is one that will be kept.

So we will have Grant, Pogba, Lingard, Cavani, Mata, Matic and Chong all leave on free transfers.

So that's 7 gone.

Henderson, AWB, Bailly, Jones, Telles, Tuanzebe, Andreas Pereira and Martial all potentially for the chop as well. Which is another 8.

Taking it to potentially 15 first team squad players leaving.

Rumours are that EtH wants a very streamlined squad next season. So he can be more hands on train his ideas intensly into the remaining squad.


6.) 04 Jun 2022 16:03:19
I think for a few years we have actually had too bloated a squad, not saying of the quality required.

We also have a number of promising youngsters but when are they going to get a chance when you have so many players in the squad.

I would much rather see a Shoretire Iqbal, Garnacho, Fernandez, Hannibal get game time than the above mentioned as leaving, in cups, getting minutes as subs.

United fans will always get behind kiddies as the come through, i know perhaps they get stick on forums but at OT or at away grounds from travelling supporters United have never turned on our academy products and I don't think they ever will.


7.) 04 Jun 2022 16:09:11
Without any signings that would leave a squad of:

DDG, Heaton, Bishop, Kovar

Dalot, Laird, Varane, Lindelof, Maguire, Mengi, Shaw, Williams, Fernandez

McTominay, Fred, Donny, Garner, Bruno, Hannibal

Ronaldo, Rashford, Sancho, Elanga, Amad, Pellistri, Garnacho, Shoretire.

Which still leaves 27 including 11 youngsters on the cusp of the first team squad (Kovar, Bishop, Laird, Mengi, Fernandez, Garner, Hannibal, Amad, Pellistri, Garnacho and Shoretire) .

With a core of 16 first team players with more than 10 appearances in the first team.

Personally I'd expect many of those youngsters to go out on loan. Bishop, Kovar, Laird, Amad, Pellistri and Shoretire for me definitely go out on loan. With Mengi, Williams, Fernandez and Garner possibly also heading out on loan. Garnacho and Hannibal are the only ones I definitely think will stay as part of the first team squad next season.


8.) 04 Jun 2022 16:25:40
When you see that list of 15 first team players who could be gone it really highlights how terrible this squad is. Literally everyone of them are p. poor. Liverpool or city wouldn’t touch one.


9.) 04 Jun 2022 16:47:21
Come on let's not get carried away. We know 7 who will leave for sure. Then any of Hendo, Martial, Jones, Bailley. But 15? We need to put out a decent bench and have some level of player available to come on when we need a goal. It can't all be made up of kids. Can it?


10.) 04 Jun 2022 19:09:56
Spenno, after the 7 who are definitely leaving the other 8 are:

Henderson, AWB, Bailly, Jones, Telles, Tuanzebe, Andreas Pereira and Martial.

Which of those players should be on the bench to grab us a goal if we need it?

I'd rather give Garnacho, Elanga, Shoretire, Amad, Pellistri, McNeil etc a chance if we need a goal.

I expect they'll be more likely to find the net than AWB, Tuanzebe or Andreas Pereira.


11.) 04 Jun 2022 19:50:38
Shappy, Phil Jones in 'Inverted Mode' can grab us a goal when needed.


12.) 04 Jun 2022 19:56:47
Figure of speech really Shappy. Defend a lead, score a goal, replace a key player. I don’t think we should be depending on 17 year old kids across the board, especially most you mentioned.


13.) 04 Jun 2022 21:56:30
Spenno, it really doesn't matter what you or I think. Ultimately it will be down to EtH.

I suppose what is the difference between having to rely on a kid who might not be good enough (or might be, you never know until you give them the chance) and having to rely on a 100k a week player who has already proven themselves not good enough.

The other year when Chelsea had their transfer ban they had a load of kids step into the first team squad (James, Tomori, Mount, Abraham, Hudson-Odoi) . On the whole they did well, at least as well as any squad player Chelsea had signed.

Since then, two of them have cemented their place as first team regulars, while two others have been sold for good fees.

So you never know if or which youngsters might step up.

Personally I think Garnacho and Hannibal are most likely.

Garner has a decent chance as well. I'd have said Mengi also, but we seem pretty set on signing Timber who is a similar player (quick, mobile right footed CB who can play RB) but probably more talented.

Maybe Hannibal and Garnacho will go on to have similar success as James and Mount, maybe Garner and Mengi will go on to be sold for good fees.

Who knows.

What we do know is that the rumours are that EtH wants a much smaller, trimmed down squad.

Which makes sense as he tries to imbue his philosophy and tactics in the players. Much like in education the smaller the class size the better the children do.

By reducing the size of the squad he can really focus in and work with smaller groups and get his ideas across quicker and more accurately.

He supposedly wants a core group of 20 outfield players plus the keepers.

Currently on the books we have 31 players, meaning at least 11 would need to leave and that doesn't leave space for signings.

Again just rumours but supposedly EtH wants 3-4 key signings. A CB, CDM and a ST. With possibly a keeper if Henderson leaves or a full back.

However, back up keeper and full back are not the priority.

Timber, De Jong and Nunez are the primary targets.


14.) 04 Jun 2022 22:21:28
What’s the point of this place if every opinion is retorted to with ‘it’s up to EtH’? Of course it is, like absolutely everything else that people ask.


15.) 04 Jun 2022 22:36:04
Spenno, even without including the kids, that's still a fairly full squad with room for only a few signings.

Shows how bloated our squad has been.


16.) 05 Jun 2022 01:56:48
Spending: Even if 15 players leave it still leaves a squad of 27 even if there’s a few kids in there, I’d imagine there’d probs be 3-5 signings too. So it wouldn’t be a bench full of 17 y/ o.


17.) 05 Jun 2022 02:24:51
Did anyone else notice shoretire being noticeably taller and bigger in his last cameo compared to the one he has under ole. I'm guessing he grew a little.


18.) 07 Jun 2022 14:55:18
Reducing the sizeof the squad is a certainty
A lot of the players like Mata and Matic were too old anyway, others like Jesse and Pogba should have been sole earlier.

I take the point bout young players being inexperienced but if they won the FA youth cup then some of them will be incorporated into the United first team squad for the coming season.
I would keep one of Martial or Rashford but try and sell or loan the other out.
Elanga looked good last season so I think he will be developed further. I have not seen a lot of the other youngsters so I don't really know about them.
I would certainly try and get some players in with Premier League experience as this is important.
I would try and get a striker and a dfensive midfield player with international experience as this is what is most needed and where we are weakest.


 

 

 

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02 Aug 2022 11:28:16
I'm very interested to see the calls by so many on here for is to sign sesko
He has only played 50 games for RBS.
Has any one seen him play regularly except for shappy who will claim to have seenhim play 51 times?
Seems like a lot of dosh for a player hardly mentioned anywhere a few weeks ago.
Will he be another ammad or pellistrini?
I've never seen him play not heard anything of him but he has been watched by a lot of clubs as per ed002.
It's a big step up for him.
I wonder will the club take another leap of faith on such a high risk signing.
As fergie would say its hard to find any value in the market and even harder to find a player that can justify the money being spent.

ken

1.) 02 Aug 2022 11:56:27
Fergie . the guy who signed Bebe.


2.) 02 Aug 2022 12:01:18
It'd be a huge risk for him to be the only forward signed but I think this is one of the best outcomes we can hope for with the striker situation.

Ronaldo seems destined to stay despite the sensible thing being to let him go, so a highly rated younger striker who can gain experience and will be OK with a bit part role initially might be the best option?

I've only seen Sesko on YouTube but it'd certainly be nice to see us sign a striker who's best years are ahead of them rather than behind them as we have over the past decade with the likes of RVP (he was amazing for a season but wasn't signed with the future in mind), Falcao, Ibrahimovic, Cavani and Ronaldo.


3.) 02 Aug 2022 12:05:34
I can honestly say I’d never heard of the lad until 2 weeks ago.
I like what I saw in the pre season game against Liverpool but saying that I liked what I saw of Martial in the first 3 games.
I’d say if the club have been scouting him for 12-18 months then now would be the time to strike and sign him, otherwise we could regret it if he signs for another club ie Haaland.
Who knows though?!


4.) 02 Aug 2022 12:49:34
The whole situation gives me Martial vibes.


5.) 02 Aug 2022 13:02:33
Once upon a time Halaand and Nunez had never been heard of but .
Sign him, if he flops he flops, I'd rather we sign and he flops than someone else signs and he becomes world class.


6.) 02 Aug 2022 13:15:11
If ETH likes him and wants him, that's good enough for me.


7.) 02 Aug 2022 13:22:20
Salzburg have been producing very good players for a while now.
Although best case he's a backup option.
You can't throw a kid as the central striker for United and expect it to perform.
Quality aside, it's a very hard job.


8.) 02 Aug 2022 13:23:38
Had anyone heard of Antony 2 months ago, let alone Malacia?
No harm in getting excited about potential incoming players, that's what the window's all about isn't it?
It's a grey are with youths on lengthy contracts. You end up paying for potential. Take Diallo - I think we're going to end up paying towards £35m for him aren't we? It's a risk unless the bulk of the offer is made via add-ons - ie x goals scored, appearances etc. At least then if we end up paying the full whack we'll know we got something out of it.


9.) 02 Aug 2022 13:24:26
I doubt the club have been scouting him for long unless the idea came via RR during his time. It is more likely that EtH had him on his radar at Ajax and is continuing this with us.
Like most have said. not heard of him until this week but he does look good and one for the future on you tube clips.
I say if EtH wants him he is good for me.


10.) 02 Aug 2022 13:28:30
I'd agree angel.
The manager knows more about him is imagine.
I've never seen him play at all so I've no idea I'd never seen nunez either as I didn't watch much cl last season.
I'm not sure how much we are interested and if it's just paper talk.


11.) 02 Aug 2022 14:32:39
I don't watch Austrian football, I did see him play against Sevilla in the 1-1 draw in last season's UCL group stage.

From what I can remember he was tidy enough but didn't stand out in that game.

If he is the man EtH want's then let's go get him.

Personally I think he is the right type of signing we should be going for. I don't think there are many top class, established strikers who would be available this summer, and who would be willing to join us over other options currently.

Haaland has gone to City, Nunez to Liverpool, Lewandowski to Barcelona.

Beyond them which other top level strikers are out there who would be willing to move to a Europa league club?

We've signed many older, end of their career strikers in recent times and I'm not convinced its the best way forward.

We have a manger who is renown for developing young talent, maybe getting a highly rated young striker for EtH to work with and develop might just be the smartest move.

As for price, there have been several figures quoted. One saying RB Salzburg would want at least 30m, others are saying 55m. The reporting of transfer fees are a weird thing in football. I've seen many times that the fees often reported for United signings are inclusive of all potential add-ons, yet fees for other clubs signings are often only reported at the base price excluding all potential add-ons.

Which makes it hard to know what a player actually cost, as long as the club are comfortable paying it what does it matter.


12.) 02 Aug 2022 15:03:47
Football Manager Ken, the kid is lethal.

But so was Freddy Adu and Cherno Samba.

People just want a new face regardless of who it is. I would be inclined to agree with the views above that if the manager wants him then that's enough.


13.) 02 Aug 2022 15:22:43
He’s been my number 1 target and I’ve wanted us to sign him ever since I heard of him last Saturday.


14.) 02 Aug 2022 15:36:33
Ken, Ronaldo had only played less than a season for Sporting when we paid a then record fee for a teenager. No one on here claims to have watched Sesko, but a lot of the top clubs are after him. Do you buy now for the amount quoted and maybe structure the deal with bonus payments, or do you wait a year while he plays well then his value goes up even more.
We scouted Nunez in January and I know people very high up within Benfica, who assured me that Benfica were ready to sell him to us in January, but we dithered and the rest is history.


15.) 02 Aug 2022 15:41:09
Wasn't it RR that made the club aware of him?


16.) 02 Aug 2022 15:58:58
I echo that GDS2. I read a report that we were interested in him and immediately there was a dossier on him from Downsie who obviously had seen him play several times and ever since he has been my first choice transfer target.


17.) 02 Aug 2022 17:02:59
Honestly, I genuinely believe he’s destined for greatness.

In three years time, he’ll be scoring 20-30 goals p/ season for an EPL/ La Liga/ Bayern side.

I just hope it is us.


18.) 02 Aug 2022 18:41:40
I don't pretend to know what to do when I don't know the facts AAA.
I've no idea about the player either.
I think someone was pulling your leg that benfica wanted to sell nunez in the middle of cl but I've no idea but he didn't want to come to united anyhow. He made that clear and has reiterated it since. But it's all hearsay.
If eth wants him and we can get sesko then go for it but supporters on here that have never seen him play.
With Ronaldo on the way out we need someone for sure.


 

 

24 Jul 2022 12:51:12
Strange comments from xavi today.
Effectively saying he see fdj as a back up cb and won't be considered for midfield 'but we also have ffp and economic concerns'
I have a lot of sympathy for him. He is being publicly humiliated by them imo.

ken

1.) 24 Jul 2022 13:21:02
They've tried nudging him in a subtle way for a month and have ramped it up now. All the while the clown Laporta maintains he isn't for sale. It's inevitable he leaves, where is the question.


2.) 24 Jul 2022 13:36:04
And being robbed of the money he is owed from him helping the club out

Meanwhile they are purchasing other players for millions and millions

Sham of a club if you ask me.


3.) 24 Jul 2022 13:03:17
Barca’s treatment of De Jong must surely put any player off signing for them. Always played second fiddle to Real Madrid as is but come to us and we can’t guarantee we will pay your wages and will push you out publicly once we find a shiny new toy or just can’t afford you anymore? Diabolical.


4.) 24 Jul 2022 13:48:36
Just posted on that Ken, absolute disgrace of a club.
I know people are saying stop trying for him he doesn’t want to come, but I’m sure the player will also want to now feel appreciated more than anything and who better than his old Manager and fans that will 100% be behind him no matter what, also playing a MF that he prefers.


5.) 24 Jul 2022 14:50:50
Brought him on yesterday with the B team and played him CB too. With Kessie joining they're now maybe have a few too many midfielders. It's basically telling him that if he decides to stay he'll be playing in a posistion he doesn't particularly like.

They're short of telling him they won't be registering him next season to get rid of him.


6.) 24 Jul 2022 15:00:32
Actively chasing Kounde too by all accounts so FDJ wouldn’t even be 1st choice cb. Apart from Estrella and the sun, not sure what he’s getting from staying at Barcelona. We have rain and boddingtons and he can play regularly in his favoured position.


7.) 24 Jul 2022 15:18:57
Not strange to me. They want rid and like a bad smell he won't go away. If true its not about money then he has no excuse to keep staying where he isn’t wanted.


8.) 24 Jul 2022 15:30:33
Or maybe Barcelona don't think he's that great a midfielder and want to offload him for as much as they can get.
Ports, I would much rather Boddingtons than Estrella, and Manchester is God's own city, but fdj strikes me as being a soft character and I'm not sure he has the balls to play for a big club.


9.) 24 Jul 2022 18:06:33
Xavi done a buff Egan. Out out out he said.


 

 

23 Jul 2022 18:51:46
Worst case scenario from Here on in until the window shuts is imo
We don't sign anybody else.
Ronaldo leaves with no forward replacement.
We don't sell 3 or 4 more players.
Best case is again imo
We get fdj or a player that eth feels can do the job he wants.
We get 1 or 2 other players. (Forward, rb or cm)
Ronaldo leaves and is replaced by 1 of the above.
We sell 3 or 4 players.
We will have to wait and see how that plays out.
I think ericksen will be a lot more than a rotation option for Bruno. He will bring a lot to the squad and team.
I hope that we see a changing of the guard at lb. Shaw and telles are very poor defenders.
Shaw does have good patches of form he does have good attributes but i'm still totally unconvinced by him after 7 years. I think he will start the season and be 2nd choice by Xmas.
Martinez I don't know much about. Born competitor and winner and leader according to eth and his national coach so even if he is only 4 foot 3 thiese are attributes missing for too long in our team.
So if its worst case scenario it's not the end of the world.
But if its best case then the picture would look even brighter.
I just hope the Ronaldo issue is resolved early and that it doesn't become a distraction for all concerned.
I'd like eth or fdj to bite the bullet and draw an end to the saga one way or another.
If sms is the 2nd choice I'd be delighted if he came
Despite my obvious dislike of martial and Fred I've no doubt that both have good attributes and who is to say that they along with mctom rash sancho Bruno won't be a lot better than last season. Sancho aside it's the 1st time they will have had proper coaching for years. With defined roles and a common purpose.
If people's expectation or hope is that we get top 4 I think we have enough to do that already. But it would be a really tough battle.
I think best case scenario above would make that objective a lot more likely but if anyone thinks that we don't have enough to compete for top 4 and that we will finish 6th again or below I simply don't agree.
As ajh said its easy to forget how bad we were last season.
My 11 hopes for the season are
1. That we compete for 90 mins in every game.
2. That we play as a team with an obvious plan.
3. That I can have pride in their efforts.
4. That we become enjoyable to watch.
5. We get a couple of good cup runs.
6. Finish top 4.
7. Make OT uncomfortable for away teams again.
8 show much greater discipline on the pitch.
9 that the players stay off the front pages.
10. They play with a smile on their face.
11. We see a couple of youth players integrated into the squad.
I'm optimistic that most of those objectives / hopes will be met.
Does anybody have different objectives or hopes?

ken

1.) 23 Jul 2022 19:18:14
I think we will be right there challenging for 4th as we were challenging for it last season despite being utterly hopeless for large parts.

I'm in agreement with your hopes for the club this season and providing we don't suffer a shock exit in the Europa league early doors, I could see us winning that. I'll add another hope too, I hope to see players actually improve under Ten Hag. Whether it's youngsters or players like Rashford, Martial and Maguire who have been in wretched form over the past 18 months.

It's very early days but the players seem to be picking up what Ten Hag wants and we've certainly seen a change in the intensity of our pressing in pre season.

I've genuinely not looked forward to a season this much in a while as a United fan as for the first time in years, I think we have a manager capable of improving the players, ensuring attacking football is played and guiding us towards major trophies in the years to come.


2.) 23 Jul 2022 19:21:35
Good post ken.

I believe it will be somewhere in the middle, regarding the worst and best case scenario.

I totally believe we can compete for the top 4, unlike some who have us cemented at 6th, without season even starting. Ofcourse, it won't be easy, but imo, we have the tools to make it.

About the hopes, I mostly agree on what you said, but I do hope we win Europa League. European trophey, smaller, but still. and gives us another route to CL, if we were to miss on top 4.


3.) 23 Jul 2022 19:42:38
Good post. I agree with all yours”hopes” Ken. Although I disagree about ronaldo leaving. Erikson could provide him with 10 assists all by himself. He just needs to stiffen up his bottom lip and put another 12 months in (like he agreed to do when he signed for us less than a year ago)

My hopes for the season:
1. Top 4
2. Win Europa league
3. Domestic cup final
4. Stop other fans being confident of at least a point when they play us (home or away)
5. Ronaldo to stop being a baby and crack on.


4.) 23 Jul 2022 19:52:24
Ken, for me football is an escape for a couple of hours from stresses of work, family life etc. in the future I hope it’s something my son and I share. So all I care about really is having a team I enjoy watching. Trophies and things like that will come, but I want to be looking forward to the game rather than almost feeling like I have to watch it out of blind loyalty if you get me? Felt that way for a while anyway!


5.) 23 Jul 2022 20:07:26
Well said Ken

I don’t think we can underestimate how important it is we now have one of the best coaches in the world

Only way is up ??.


6.) 23 Jul 2022 20:14:58
Good post, Ken.

My hopes are that we finally sign FDJ, agree a deal for Dumfries and Antony and sign an out and out number 9, whilst receiving acceptable permanent offers for AWB, Jones, Bailly/ Lindelof, Tuanzebe and Telles.

I genuinely think we can come 4th. The top two will be miles ahead again, but then it’s Spurs, Chelsea and ourselves battling for 3/ 4/ 5. I find it laughable people raving about Arsenal’s summer - an unknown kid in CM, a hugely overrated Zinchenko for 32m and the one decent signing in Jesus. Our window has been better than theirs and I think we’ll finish above them.

I’m absolutely loving the clips of ETH on the training ground. As a secondary school teacher myself, he seems to have the ‘3 F Principle’ that I strive for myself in my delivery - firm, fun and fair.

Bring on 22/ 23!


7.) 23 Jul 2022 21:08:26
Nice positive post Kenneth :D

My hopes ultimately are that we can breach the top 4 again, and maybe challenge for a cup. Not necessarily the Europa as it's a distraction although might be a more realistic route to the CL for us.

I'd love to do those things whilst having confidence in the team, that there is a style and that I'm not bored to tears as I have been pretty much for a handful of seasons, if not decade at the steady decline. Early signs are good. I've only seen highlights of all the preseason games but there seems to be much more desire and energy.

On the transfer front I hope we get this elusive midfielder, whoever it is. Fingers crossed for Frenkie but maybe there's another option or two. If it's a 'no' I hope it's a definite one so we don't leave a gap for the next two years waiting. For me the Ronaldo situation is even murkier. I have even less idea what will happen there, if he goes we need to find a player able to hit 20+ consistently and be a menace to centre-backs. Would love to see Antony and Dumfries especially who is a real thread for Holland bombing forward. I think EtH will have replaced pretty much all the squad in the next few seasons.


8.) 23 Jul 2022 22:59:20
I hope we focus on playing well, there is a lot of change in the league this year, and we will improve from last year as much as anyone. Would love it if we can surprise a few people and still be in with a chance in the final furlong (best Kevin Keegan impression)


9.) 24 Jul 2022 07:47:21
Good post Ken. I share your thoughts completely on Shaw. He's a liability and unprofessional as he can't keep fit as he's overweight all the time. Never rates him. As displayed yesterday, DDG and DVB are also not good enough. I've been harping on about DDG not commanding his area and not communicating and lack of distribution. So, I think he'll need to be replaced. Dvb is useless full stop.
I think the team still looks fragile, but hopefully that'll improve with Martinez and Dumfries (if he's signed) .
Not sure what's happening with fdj, but we need to sort this out quickly one way or the other.
My Hooe is to see an improvement on the pitch and off the pitch too as the players have acted like idiots the past 5 years. If we strengthen more, we have a chance of 4th at best, if we don't, we'll be 5th or 6th. But I think we've got a good chance of winning the Europa League. And that will be a great first season for ETH.


10.) 24 Jul 2022 11:11:40
Ken, that must be a record length of a post there mate. A good one too.

On the pitch, I'm full of optimism. It's clear as day the little things ETH is doing, and the level is expects of the players is far great than any coach we have had since Jose.

He seems to have a good mix, some new players bought, a good injection of youth (Watch out for Iqbal) and working with the current players who have no other choice than to raise their levels now.

Eriksen is a great shout, I think he will be a very important player, dare I say a no.6 should FDJ not sign which is not looking likely.

We do need another option up top IMO because you can not rely upon Martial or the hope that Ronaldo will still be here and doing the business.

I hark back to some of my previous posts where I point out how funny the game is. We have had a good pre season, we will hopefully hit the ground running, build the confidence within the squad and from there anything can happen, any position is achievable in this league.

City are the obvious favourites, but I think Liverpool have lost their 2nd most important player behind Henderson and jury will be out of Nunez, if he can fill the shoes. Chelsea, I'm unconvinced by right now (Could be very wrong) but Spurs and Arsenal look like they've really strengthened. But all in all, I really think we could be up there very quickly.


11.) 24 Jul 2022 12:45:37
Angelred, so nunez scores 4 goals against good opposition and the jury is still out? He had an amazing record last year at Benfica and tore Liverpool's defence to shreds, and people are still questioning him. Trust me, he'll be a top player and he'll more than match Mané's goals.
I agree with you on Spurs and Arsenal, both finished strongly last year and both strengthened.
Chelsea have a very solid team, and they're strengthening central defence. So, they will be in the mix for 3rd or 4th.
We have a very weak midfield and fragile defence and the worst goalkeeper out of the top 5 teams, and I think this will hinder our chances of getting top 4.


12.) 24 Jul 2022 14:06:31
So United forwards score regulary during preseason, but hey, its only preseason! Nunez scores in one match, 2 from clear opposition mistakes, 1 from a penalty, and its incredible!

We do need more in the midfield, that's true, but it isn't as dire as you put it.

DDG worst gk? I would strongly disagree. He doesn't have the same attributes as others, but saying Ramsdale is better for example, is just funny. The problem is our defence, not DDG. Put VVD in front of him and let's see what happens.


13.) 24 Jul 2022 14:55:33
AAA wouldn't trust you as far as I could throw you.

Of course it is, let's see how he fits into the premier League, it's not a given that he will hit the ground running, I think there is a question mark, rightfully so. Aside from that game, he looked absolutely ??? in pre-season.

Last season, we were abysmal and were still in with a top 4 shout, very close to the end.

With ETH, a few personnel changes, I expect us to be right up there.


14.) 25 Jul 2022 10:21:38
Just ask AAA for next week's lotto results he knows exactly what's going to happen on lots of things in professional football.


 

 

18 Jul 2022 11:44:08
Without requesting a poll who do you think will leave the club before this window shuts.
I have a list below with my opinion just curious as to what people think.
Awb. GO
Bailly. GO
Jones. GO
Telles. GO
Fred . STAY UNFORTUNATELY
McTom. STAY
Ronaldo. GO
martial. STAY
Shaw. STAY UNFORTUNATELY
Garner . LOAN
Chong. GO
Pellistrini . LOAN
Amad. LOAN
Garnoucho. STAY.
Laird. LOAN.


Still lots of business to sort out on the exits.
So important we get whomever eth doesn't want out the door ASAP.

ken

1.) 18 Jul 2022 11:57:52
I would be surprised to see so many more go Ken. 6 plus 3 loans is a lot to get completed. We have always struggled to get players out of the door it seems.

{Ed014's Note - there’s a few missing off that list


2.) 18 Jul 2022 12:08:00
Who do you think is missing ed014
Considering we can't let them all go in 1 window.
I'd like to see maguire lindelof leave too but I'm really only looking at the practicalities of this window.
Do you think dodgy?
Don't think there is any apace to accommodate those 9 assuming 2 more come in.

{Ed014's Note - those were defo 2 plus Dalot, DVB and Rashford but like you say you can only do so much mate.

Martial to stay is an odd one too.


3.) 18 Jul 2022 12:28:19
Martial to go, Maguire he needs to go, lindelof aswell.

Honestly we would be left with half a squad. We'd probably be a better team still.

{Ed014's Note - definitely mate


4.) 18 Jul 2022 12:49:47
McTom STAY really?


5.) 18 Jul 2022 12:53:02
Awb: will get loaned for 1 season and then bought
Bailly. Stay. He's played well in pre-season, considering we won't get much money, I'd want him to stay and fight.
Jones. Loan to USA
Telles. Sell.
Fred . Keep
McTom. I'll sell him but bench role for me
Ronaldo. If he stays he scores a lot of goals, if he leaves we definitely need to get someone, our attack looks very weak.
martial. Last chance saloon.
Shaw. Keep
Garner If FDJ doesn't sign keep, if not loan
Chong. Sell or stay as backup
Pellistrini . Loan
Amad. Loan
Garnacho stay with winter loan
Laird. Stay. If we don't sign a RB and we let AWB go, one of Laird or brandon need to stay.
Brandon: Sell.


6.) 18 Jul 2022 12:54:29
Ed 014, I thought you were on a wind-up when you said you wouldn't take any United players to Arsenal, but to be fair I think you were proven right.

{Ed014's Note - definitely not a wind up mate I don’t see anyone in your squad that I’d want at all.

Plenty I’d have from City, Liverpool, Spurs and Chelsea though.

Really happy with our squad and if we could get Zinchenko over the line I’d be happier still.


7.) 18 Jul 2022 13:10:01
Don't disagree with them ed014 it's more about the practicality of who will go this window.
Dvdb might get a stay if execution simply because eth might get a bit more from him
Martial I have zero faith in but with the questions surrounding ronaldo I think him and rash will survive the cut this season. But I think last chance saloon for both.
Same applies to dalot he is a very poor defender but again I think he will survive this time around.
There is a wish list but there is askari the practicality to consider.
Just too much churn to get done in his first summer window.

{Ed014's Note - I know mate, you can only do so much but I think if you’re patient and stick with ETH then it’ll come good.

I think he would have been awesome at Arsenal with our group of players, would have suited him to a tee.


8.) 18 Jul 2022 13:49:07
I think the list is who Ken thinks will go rather than who he wants to go.

There is still plenty of time in the window and Utd could really do with drastically trimming the squad further. The problem is as always the silly high wages they are all on. Then there are the over inflated fees Utd paid for them and its never a good look to accept £20 million for a player you paid £50 million for just a couple of years earlier.

Unfortunately for these reasons I think there will be a number of players like AWB and Bailly who just hang around stinking up the place, not getting a game but deluded by thinking they might work there way to favour with the new manager and won't take a pay cut to play regular football elsewhere seen it all before blah blah blah.

Utd is like a gilded cage where players come to kill their careers. Once they've had a taste of the money they forget about the football.


9.) 18 Jul 2022 13:49:52
I’d run with your verdicts Ken although would love to see CR7 stick around for another season as planned. Gives a nice bit of time to find or unearth his long-term successor.


10.) 18 Jul 2022 14:36:03
Mancman it's a bit of what I want and what I think.
If it was Ashley what I want Shaw Fred maguire martial lindelof would top the list of outs.


11.) 18 Jul 2022 14:49:07
I think:

AWB, Garner, Amad, Laird will go out on loan.

Jones, Telles, Chong will leave on transfers.

A few others I’d like to ship out but the above it what I think will realistically happen this summer.


12.) 18 Jul 2022 15:00:46
This is what i think will happen and not what i think SHOULD happen. I will put the imo SHOULD part in (brackets)
Awb. stay
Bailly. stay
Jones. GO
Telles. GO
Fred . STAY
McTom. STAY
Ronaldo. STAY (GO)
martial. STAY
Shaw. STAY
Garner . LOAN
Chong. GO
Pellistrini . LOAN
Amad. LOAN
Garnoucho. LOAN.
Laird. LOAN.
Dalot. Stay (Go)


13.) 18 Jul 2022 16:25:38
Who stays and who goes will depend on two things. Firstly, what offers we receive and secondly what players we bring in. We can't sell both Ronaldo and Martial for example without bringing in at least one probably two strikers. While which if any depart will depend on getting an offer both the club and the player deem acceptable.

Players who I think the club would be open to selling include: AWB, Dalot, Bailly, Jones, Tuanzebe, Telles, Williams, Donny, Chong, Martial, Ronaldo.

While players like Laird, Mengi, Bernard, Fernandez, Garner, Hannibal, Amad, Pellistri, Garnacho and Shoretire are all players who could potentially leave on loan.

If I was to hazard a guess I'd say Bailly, Jones, Tuanzebe, Williams, Chong and maybe Ronaldo will leave permanently.

With Laird, Mengi, Bernard, Fernandez, Hannibal, Amad and Pellistri leaving on loan.


14.) 18 Jul 2022 17:15:16
Ken

I don't disagree with the number that need to go, plus if we are bringing in new we need even more to leave. I was just commenting that it may take a couple of windows to see them all go. We overpay wages and have high expectations of value - so usually struggle with clearing space in the squad.


15.) 18 Jul 2022 20:15:36
Ken, dvb DEFINITELY GO.
Also, I'll definitely keep Fred and definitely sell Mctominay.
I've never understood this attitude of some towards Fred.
I'll sell Verane too. But that's not going to happen.


16.) 19 Jul 2022 03:36:21
Bit harsh on Ken there AAA, he should definitely go? Fair doos he does like a strong opinion, but I think the site would be be a bit too quiet without him here to stir the pot ?

DVB I could take or leave. I feel like maybe he is a little bit of empire's clothes, but if anyone can get a tune out of him sure it is EtH? Worth a shot, unless he makes a nice bargaining chip.


 

 

12 Jul 2022 23:09:46
Imo there is absolutely nothing anybody can read into in terms of today's result.
Equally there is not much you can read into players touch or fitness.
But imo you can read into the body language and desire to play a certain way.
We are miles off but with a few additions and particularly in midfield defence we can improve.
Really is something to look forward to.
I can't wait to have a team that represents what us fans are looking for. A team that is cohesive and working in the same direction.
We don't have players that are fit enough and technically and tactically good enough yet but we can at least have pride in their efforts.
Eth won't tolerate anything less than 100%.

ken

1.) 13 Jul 2022 01:59:16
Ken for me we saw some decent goals, moe convictions in our play and a lot more desire. Martial worked, couldn’t believe it. Sancho looked sharp and I thought the young lads did well.

I think we saw some good patterns in attack, more men in the box too. We pressed as a team, it wasn’t perfect but that can be worked on. Liverpool played through it quite a bit, but you expect that against quality players.

It’s about building confidence and trust from the manager to the players and vice versa for the players to trust the manager and want to play for him. Fingers crossed we get a couple more of his targets in, in the next week or so to get them integrated into the squad.


2.) 13 Jul 2022 06:00:28
The attack looked good today. Players interchanging positions and making runs was nice to see.

We absolutely need upgrade to the midfield.
Constant sideways and back passes from McFred affects the attacking impetus.

Signing FDJ will be a game changer. His passing between lines is exceptional.


3.) 13 Jul 2022 06:49:10
The effort was the stand out aspect, but I do think we could see a few early sprouts of growth and change in style.

The first and third goal both came from pressing high and forcing a mistake from the opposition. There were a couple of other chances that we didn't score that came from pressing high as well.

While you could also see our defence sitting higher, and even DDG coming off his line more often.

Not perfect, but you could see that they were things we had been working on in training. However, there is a long way to go yet, EtH himself even said we made a lot of mistakes that need to be worked on and not to get carried away with the result.

That is something that really excites me about EtH, even with a 4-0 win he isn't happy as he's a perfectionist and wants a better overall performance.

Hopefully the club can get a few more signings over the line that will help accelerate EtH's ideas on to the pitch. De Jong, Erkisen and Martinez will help with better ball retention and progression, as well as improving defensive solidarity.

Exciting times to be a Manchester United supporter that is for sure.


4.) 13 Jul 2022 08:14:13
Ken, I think we need personnel who are athletic and nimble to work the press. The front line yesterday could do that. But the midfield area needs a lot more speed and acceleration within the players to ensure the press works better. I also think while the front players were pressing, our midfielders were too far behind them, that's why Liverpool worked through the press. The whole team has to learn to be more cohesive. It takes a lot of effort to do that, but hopefully our fitness levels will be much better than in previous years.
Above said, its early days and I was pleased with what I saw and I know ETH will get it right. Additions in midfield will improve us no end.


5.) 13 Jul 2022 08:36:27
Didnt see all the game as working but taking aside it wasnt a full on league game and pre season was pleased with what i saw. Positivity with the young iqbal steeping up also.


6.) 13 Jul 2022 08:40:42
I thought we were uncertain to start with - thought we’d be spanned by Liverpool kids. Fred making usual mistakes, others giving ball away etc.

But then something seemed to click and they started to believ in themselves and start to do all the new things tgeyd been coached.

Thus best thing for me is that players will now believe n ETH methods etc as they’ve seen the proof that it works - if we’d been beaten, would’ve had to start again to convince them to buy into new methods.

Sancho best performer in first half, Bailly in second (he was really good! Kept Pool first team at bay single handedly! )

Other notable mentions to Bruno, De Gea, Martial and Malacia (Blud Iqbsl savage and Pellistri)

Thought DVBeek and Amad very poor.


7.) 13 Jul 2022 09:44:16
It showed me Ken that we signed what we needed most, a coach.


8.) 13 Jul 2022 10:31:41
Can’t read anything into the result but I suspect had Liverpool won 4-0 everyone would have been reading into the result and drawing conclusions on the team, manager, style, effort etc.


9.) 13 Jul 2022 10:41:20
Couldn’t agree more with everything that Ken said.


10.) 13 Jul 2022 13:00:15
Wallace I agree with you about DvB and Diallo. But it is only pre season.


11.) 13 Jul 2022 14:03:02
Exactly that, Ports.


 

 

 

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05 Aug 2022 12:08:26
Upamancano Saul rice bissouma haaland all predictions that were never coming.
Here is your view on ole the worst manager in recent history and half the man dave sexton was
Don't forget little man call me kermit who was a good muppet.
Back into your little dream world of self importance dunce.
Your words at the begining of last season below. How did the whole ole will dominate for years prediction fare out. You are a complete bull merchant with no substance and no grasp of reality.
A phenomenal window. I wonder how many posters would genuinely be bemoaning what was not achieved if at the end of last season you were told you can have Ronaldo, Sancho and Varane to strengthen 3 of 4 positions we wanted to.

2. The DM target list was essentially Rice, Rice or Rice, given we had 3 other prospects, Bissouma, who needs another season to prove himself beyond a one season wonder, or backtrack on his assertions he was not going to play for Mali which would be a negative in joining the ACON mid season, Camavinga who was a genuine 2nd choice but quickly made clear he wanted only Madrid and Saul who sadly, simply did not want the role Utd were looking for. We are committed to resolving this next summer, or, unlikely as it is, in January.

3. Ole after 100 games in charge is the second most successful manager in Utd history and the most successful since the second World War. In respect of wins and points scored. I do recall 2 years ago despite his successful half season fans were stating he could never attract world class talent in the same way as world class renowned managers like Mourinho and Van Gaal. I wonder about that view as of this summer also.

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04 Aug 2022 17:10:57
Agree angel agree red whiskey.

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04 Aug 2022 13:52:08
Good man Cheshire. ??? I'd enjoy being kicked in the bollox more than I enjoy your posts.
I'm sure your a very nice guy just not very accurate with your predictions or info. I'm sure your only passing on what your told but it's been so so inaccurate for last few years that it's coming from a questionable source i'd suggest or maybe it was a dream. ???.

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04 Aug 2022 07:52:57
Coaching missing for last 8 or 9 years. You were saying the complete opposite at the beginning of last season Cheshire.
The posts are there I won't embarrass you by putting them up.
I was not referring to haaland.
Everybody knows we had no chance with him ever except yourself.

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Wes Morgan won a title as capitan. I think you can polish a turd just not 10 turds fireman C.

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17 Aug 2022 18:57:58
AaA go and read the accounts. We have zero issue with debt repayment at all the owners keep the debt level as it is for their own reasons you don't really understand what your talking about that's clear to see.

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17 Aug 2022 12:12:33
It's not up to me Derby at all. Are they doing anything illegal?
They are not running the business into the ground?
What did they pay? What's today's value?
They will be lauded in the business world for the money they have made and will make.
They are bidding men. Profit makers.
You just have different ideals for the club than they do. I think we all do Derby but they are not doing anything wrong in the eyes of the law.
Leveraged buy outs will not be banned at all. Its the way a lot of businesses operate.
They will try and put some safeguards in place but nothing that will prevent a purchase like this again.

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17 Aug 2022 12:04:24
Fireman we are not skint by any stretch of the imagination. Financially we are in fine shape as a business but the owners are not going to change 10 players this summer.

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17 Aug 2022 10:05:04
Gds2 nobody disputes we would prefer different owners. But what they are doing is fine by the law and fine by them.
If folk want them out it's in our own hands but some folk won't give up their season tickets but moan all the same.
Until we have a united front nothing will change. Just people making noise and doing nothing about it.
Everybody leaving it to the next man.
If you want to have an impact on the owners then nobody should go to a game or buy any merchandise.
I'm on record and stopped doing both over a year ago.

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16 Aug 2022 21:41:18
Derby why shouldn't it be allowed?
They own the club
Simple. As long as they are not trading wrecklessly there is no issue as far as they are concerned.
I really wish people would understand they are not doing or have not done anything illegal?
This is very normal practise all over the world throughout almost every business sector.
Just some folk get emotional about their team. Lots of sentimentality from some fans but to them it's just business and a very profitable one from their perspective giving them great cash flow.
From their perspective its just lovely. And they are calling the shots.

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