Manchester United Match Posts 2

21 Apr 2024 18:56:08
All I am going to say is well played Coventry I thought they were magnificent today. Very harsh on them in the end but they should be proud of their performance.

21 Apr 2024 17:36:52
Game. Management. They just have no clue. On the bench or pitch.

21 Apr 2024 19:02:00
Have to agree. I really don't see the point - when you have a very weakened bench - of taking off two young players who have helped you get to 3-0.

I've defended ETH because of all the injuries and controversies he's had to endure this season, but questions have to be asked about what's going on in training that's causing it the crisis.

Anyway I switched the game off at 4-3 thinking we had lost and didn't even realize we had won on PKs until a friend called me! Had we lost I would not have been surprised to see ETH lose his job Monday morning. He might anyway. I'm now firmly in the 'he has to go camp". along with a complete remake of the team. I can't see there's any way back from this debacle.

21 Apr 2024 19:50:35
EtH will remain in charge until the end of the season.

I don't expect to last long after the FA Cup final.

21 Apr 2024 20:25:25
The manager puts the players on the pitch, it's down to them to do their jobs and perform. We done that for 60 odd minutes.

21 Apr 2024 20:45:57
Can’t see any other way. I know some on here want him to stay but surely the evidence is stacked against him at this point. Keeping him would be a hard sell to the fans after what has been a shocking season.

21 Apr 2024 21:12:39
Danny the same manager took out Garnacho who is a big threat on the counter, then removes Mainoo and all control goes from the game.

It’s absolutely baffling.

21 Apr 2024 21:31:08
Yes we did Danny until the manager made daft substitutions that changed the game.

21 Apr 2024 21:51:17
His responsibility does not stop once they are the park! We did it for 60 mins then stopped which is down to him to instill a work ethic and culture.

His game management from tactics to substitutions is awful.

21 Apr 2024 22:20:31
To be fair, I think the introductions of Torp and Tavares, only a little before Garna went off, brought energy to their team and unlocked O'Hare who pushed up to torment our defence.

Taking Mainoo off was the real difference-maker today, bringing Eriksen on when Coventry had only just found their tail was just ridiculous.

I can tell you what player our team missed most today - Fred.

21 Apr 2024 23:32:05
They might be carrying out ETH tactics to the letter, otherwise why don’t he change it, he keeps telling us he sees improvements and it’s a process!

Just face it, he is not up to the required standard, end off no amount of excuses can hide the fact he far out his depth and needs to go back to the standard he is good at, ask yourself when he is sacked within weeks now will any premier league clubs be banging his door down? I think even his hardened supporters know the answer to that!

22 Apr 2024 08:40:50
Ork, so a simple tactical change and he can’t react?

22 Apr 2024 08:53:26
Some dope suggested that Barcelona and bayern had him under consideration. As if 🤣🤣🤣.

22 Apr 2024 11:10:50
Caolan

What do you think he learnt from the single minute between the goal and Kobbie coming off that made his mind up?

I'll tell you what I saw before the 72nd minute - Hojlund being schooled by Championship CBs and having far less impact anywhere on the pitch than McTominay.
If ten Hag was bold, he'd have brought Eriksen on for Hojlund and shifted McTominay up behind Bruno at false 9.

Returning to the substitution -
Why Garna when Rashford was his usual self?
Why Antony and not Amad?

I'm embarrassed by the reality that, at times, we made Coventry look like Liverpool. 8 of our starting 11 have had enough experience to not be exposed so badly in that game - injuries have no bearing whatsoever on that.

I think it's perfectly clear what's happening now, moreso after seeing Hojlund celebrate the penalty with only Eriksen making a conscious effort to celebrate with him - the dressing room is a mess and ten Hag has overseen the collapse of team integrity.
It makes absolutely no difference where the fault lies - it's not just the players, he's a team manager who has evidently no got the midas touch. He's not a coach, he's a manager - he's not done it.

The substitutions alone suggest that he'll position his base opinions and desire of absolute authority above the blatantly obvious qualities of reality that every single fan without blinkers can see.
Don't get me wrong, he's had a proper little rough ride with the investment/ sale shenanigans, the Greenwood situation, Sancho and Ronaldo, but there's more to it and it's just too much now.

As I've said before, I like the guy and I wish him well, but he's just not good enough.
I was a staunch advocate of his because I wanted his honest and earnest approach to succeed, but I am happy to concede that I was wrong.

It is what it is.
We've scraped into the FA Cup Final and there's not a chance we'll win it. We are probably looking at finishing 7th or 8th in the table.

Irrespective of how well run the club might be in the coming years and irrespective of it's commercial power, the pull of the club for players this summer will make the uphill task begin with a sheer side that requires more time and greater focus on strategy to navigate - that is an additional 2 years minimum.

I mean, do we think Boehly wanted to offer such ludicrous contracts to players? Of course he didn't, but he worked on a way around to find a better course.
These costly workarounds that savvy gits like he exploited are being blocked now, so the onus has returned to a more organic build.

Whether people want Potter or not, he is precisely the model of coach we need - one who is happy to leave recruitment to someone else and knuckle down on the coaching and team ethos. Yes, he's not a name that will have clubs clamouring for him, but beyond the financial incentives, we aren't the big draw either.

We fans need to fully appreciate where we are as a club and accept that we're currently nowhere near the top table - that's our reality and it's one that Potter fits, providing the overly expectant/ deluded amongst our fanbase give him a chance.

22 Apr 2024 12:11:46
Ork, the issue with ten hag is he doesn’t learn.

All season we have seen capitulation after capitulation. So leave your best midfield player on for 5/ 10 mins and take the sting out of it completely, and stop the game going 3-2. When mainoo came off, we pretty much gave them a free run at our goal all game.

I don’t get his tactical approach to games, his in game decisions baffle me. You can’t have any form of consistency in results when you allow other teams to create 20+ shots on your goal, it’s actually embarrassing.

We all know this isn’t a title winning side, but we showed a lot more last season, but now the set up and style has drastically changed. I don’t get it. I thought ten hag was capable of hurling a challenging side.

Then I listen to him after a match and it’s just nonsense, if I hear him reference the arsenal game from September again I might scream 😂😂.

On Hojlund, I actually feel for the guy. He works hard, he presses but I think he’s being asked to do a role that he’s not capable of just yet. This is a young kid being asked to be a focal point, who holds the ball uo, backing into defenders. I think with his pace we need to be getting him in behind, we hardly cross a ball for him.

He’s got pace and power, but we don’t get him into areas where he can use that. He should’ve scored at 3-2 yesterday no doubt, but against a championship team we created one chance for our centre forward. I don’t even think haaland would get many goals in this team.

22 Apr 2024 12:53:37
Caolan

Exactly mate.

I used to defend some of his mistakes, but everything has it's limit.
Most mistakes in life can be defended, but only with the condition that the one who has erred has the ability and readiness to learn from a cock up.

Ten Hag has either not learned or he's completely ignorant of reality or he's so arrogant that he still thinks this is moving forward or, simply, he's utterly out of his depth.
It's absolutely one of those 4 and I, because I don't dislike the guy, would prefer to think it's the first - he just hasn't learned.

Hojlund's plight is the prime example. Flanked by Rashford or Garnacho or Antony, he gets next to nothing from them. Ten Hag should be dropping them into the U21s if they refuse to do as they're instructed, even Sancho would ping in a cross.
I suspect there's also a personality clash between Hojlund and the pair of Rashford and Garnacho - everything about the demeanour between them points this way, but it's simply something that a competent manager of people can work through.

I oversee and check off plenty of work done by youngsters. It irritates me, but I accept that the smallest achievement must be met with praise which, while not amounting to much, gives that youngster a jolt of 'You da man' juice and makes them more receptive to further instruction. I hate having to do it, but I've learned that, for a quiet life with happy customers, it's become necessary.

The more experienced people understand this too, but they know there's more to life than words and are paid more because of their experience and knowledge.
One or two of them were previously the types to crave the words, but over time the cream rises and they now understand what really matters when they see their wageslips.

15-20 years ago, I'd have struggled to accept the need to praise the needy, but I've learned - that's just life.

Ten Hag simply hasn't learned.

21 Apr 2024 17:20:13
Think McTominay would be more effective up top than Hojlund.

21 Apr 2024 17:08:07
Why is Anthony so bad? So many backward passes - never wants to run in behind - cuts in a shoots into the defenders.

22 Apr 2024 12:38:38
Jacko there is a method to his madness you need to understand the process.
He aims off target in the hope it will be deflected on target and wrong foot the keeper.
If eth can have garnaxho for another 12 months he will turn him into another Antony. You see the benefits 4 years of eth coaching in Antony. We just have to be patient and soon we will have 2 Antony's.

21 Apr 2024 17:05:47
Sir Jim ran the marathon and finishes to watch the second half, wow, at 71 yrs old.

21 Apr 2024 16:12:12
Watching first half v Coventry. think I know what the problem is. we are wearing lead boots and lead shirts. The lads have no chance.

21 Apr 2024 16:20:34
Half time. Game should be done.
If they come out in 2nd half we should be able to pick them off.

21 Apr 2024 18:09:01
That didn't age well🤣🤣🤣.

21 Apr 2024 21:49:39
Classic tumble 🤣.

21 Apr 2024 22:15:36
I dither at times DB we are dealing with a bag of spanners and an absolute nut as a manager.

21 Apr 2024 12:53:52
Onana

Maguire, casemiro, wan bissaka

Dalot amass
Mainoo

Garnacho bruno rashford

Hojlund

Casemiro can then step into midfield and the full backs can bomb forward.

21 Apr 2024 13:24:11
Wan-Bissaka at CB? God no.
The main reason he has to throw in the incredible tackles is his football brain - his positioning is terrible, as is his reading of the game.

At CB, he would be exposed badly, particularly if he's on the left with the young Amass as support.

I'd much sooner switch him with Dalot in your formation - still far from perfect, but nothing like as disastrous an idea as playing Wan-Bissaka at CB.

20 Apr 2024 20:27:57
That match day squad for tomorrow doesn't exactly fill me with confidence. Coventry must be looking at that thinking 'we can do this lot'.

20 Apr 2024 18:30:34
Kambwala injured now as well, Harry our only fit centre back.
Play casemiro there or play rhys Bennett?
I expect he plays casemiro.

17 Apr 2024 21:53:34
watching city vs Madrid. You take it for granted seeing them week in week out in the pl and don't realize how good they are.

A full strength RM team look second rate to them and defending with 11 like a league two team. 65% possession, 24 goal attempts and 14 corners for city.

18 Apr 2024 07:40:42
And then lost. 😂😂.

18 Apr 2024 11:25:59
And lost ahmad.
Ahmad empty bottles making noise and all that.
We get 25 shots against us and you say we deserve to win.
What does shots against mean is your argument here for united.
It was not a full strength Madrid team.
There are swerved ways to win matches. Good coaches do what's required. Players in good teams are motivated to give up personal glory for the team ethic.
Ask yorkie he'll explain or maybe big Sam will fill you in walking up the 18th.

18 Apr 2024 14:13:47
Yes they did and were miles better. this site is obsessed with stats, they played worse than we did against them at the Etihad with a star studded team. It was weird watching a team that has a collection of some of the best players not be able to handle the ball and defend 30 yards out form the goal.

Most here hate us winning this way but its okay if its someone else. Unbiased opinion city are a great team. City missed a few sitters that's not like them, one of those days.

No coaching master class from Ancelloti there, did what most do sit with 11 and defend hope to get a counter and to hold out and hope city miss chances.

I will make sure i ask scholes, yorkie, neville and I think cole at the FA cup final. Anything else you want me to ask them. please submit your questions:) Oh forgot i think Brian lara is there with us too and kevin petersen if you are interested in cricket stuff:)

19 Apr 2024 11:31:21
Assuming we get to FA Cup Final?

19 Apr 2024 14:53:11
I'm sure it'd be nice to see Yorkie focus his attention on the important things in life while continuing to be an odious sack.

All the others are still legends imo, but he's a nothing and a nobody.

20 Apr 2024 07:44:08
An interesting opinion of Yorkie. Care to expand upon why you feel this way about him?

20 Apr 2024 15:50:38
Fizz

It's just my opinion of intentionally absent parents (not just the men) - irrespective of what else they do in life, they're a disgrace.

Each to their own opinion and all, but my own father was just like him - a little boy with no spine.

21 Apr 2024 07:47:08
Fair enough Ork.