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05 Mar 2018 12:55:27
Massive game today, the ground will be absolutely rocking. The atmosphere intimidating. We simply have to get a result. To lose confidence going into the next three games would be very difficult to turn around.

Chelsea and Arsenal seem to be self selecting out of the top four. We do not want to invite them back in. Three points please Jose.

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1.) 05 Mar 2018 14:00:05
Dodgy,

I would obviously like us to win but I am not sure I agree with you about confidence. We seem to be a different team home and away, we can be poor away from home then come back to OT and play like a different team, each time this season we have struggled in an away game we have won the following home game, very strange but it does seem to be the case.


2.) 05 Mar 2018 14:49:54
3 point tonight's and top 4 is sorted imo .
Lift the doom and gloom of last week.


3.) 05 Mar 2018 18:38:23
Nothing surprises me. A narrow win a confortable win a draw or defeat are all entirely possible. Thays tje nature of this team at the moment.
I agree that going into the next 3 games with momentum would be preferable.


 

 

03 Mar 2018 17:46:46
Accidental post!

Utd chel and arse have all struggled to get individuals to play better than the sum of their parts. This means that those teams are very reliant on key players form, and individual brilliance. Sometimes this is just team confidence, utd certainly looked much better pre the Liverpool away game. Here's hoping we can get that swagger back.

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03 Mar 2018 17:43:31
I wonder how much worse our team will be by the end of the Liverpool match.

Interesting read down the page about the city and utd managers and teams. Very clear to me that the utd platers are not playing well in combinations as a team. City, Liv and Tot all seem to have cracked that, utd, Chel and Arse.

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25 Feb 2018 13:41:25
Bailly only makes the bench. Would have been a huge game for him to make his first game back. We need Smalling and Lindihop to play very well at the back.

Can Mctom and Pogba prevent the 3 attackers from becoming isolated? Can they link together like they know they are team mates? Would be a great game for Sanchez to show us he is a top level player.

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31 Dec 2017 14:59:42
Accidental send!

Our front four made poor final balls or the finishing was terrible. Lukaku, Jesse and Rashford all had simple headed chances but failed to even test the keeper. We had a few breaks with 2 on 1 or 3 on 2 and failed to execute to the final pass. Mike's lame cross was one of these, but Rashfords pass to him pushed him far too wide.

Miki was woefully bad. His confidence is in ruins, I don't know how he comes back from this.

Second half I don't know what happened, we started badly and I agree that the players appeared to down tools -maybe Jose gave them a few home truths, or maybe they couldn't understand how Miki stayed in the pitch.

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1.) 31 Dec 2017 15:31:33
I don’t think the point has been made but seeing Lukaku taken off with a head injury like that can have an effect on players. I recall the David Buust injury at OT and the players were subdued after it. Before the anti Jose police jump up and down there was more to yesterday than that but I have seen it where serious concerning injuries have a mental impact on those continuing a game.


2.) 31 Dec 2017 16:28:50
4 games, 1 defeat, 3 draws, crap opposition. Lots of reasons but a very poor run right now.


3.) 31 Dec 2017 19:18:34
Between 25 November 1989 and 21 March 1990, under SAF we played 17 league games, lost 9, drawn 6, winning only 2

That’s a very poor run

Happy New Year to everyone.


4.) 31 Dec 2017 22:06:34
Back in 1872 we didn't even turn up to play Red Man, that was a very bad run! Football has moved on more in the past 30 years than the prior 130, so I don't get the relevance of the early SAF comparisons, especially those before the EPL and Utd had recovered to their rightful place.

A place the latest batch of managers are doing their utmost to destroy from the looks of things.

Happy New Year one and all, it's been another hard watch 2017, but hopefully the club will change things early 2018 and we can start enjoying our football like we should given our immense resources and stature in the game.


5.) 01 Jan 2018 10:08:16
Blimey Red Man, I know you think the Glazers are to blame but can you not accept that Jose should be getting more out of the players we have? I don’t disagree with you about investment but Jose is not helping himself right now.


6.) 01 Jan 2018 10:39:07
AJH

Firstly I was just pointing out that we have had worse runs.

The Glazers are a major underlying problem to our football club, appears some have forgotten amidst the football woes.

Is it Jose should be getting more out of the players? Or should the players who pull on that shirt be trying a lot harder? There is no excuse for them all not putting a proper shift in and I don’t think they are at the moment. I made this point recently but under SAF players knew they had to perform or be left out or sold, SAF wasn’t going anywhere. We have sacked two and Jose has critics so do the players feel under any pressure, it doesn’t look it. The club gave Moyes a 6 year deal to try and ward that off and it didn’t work. Some players seem to think they are above this hard work. Maybe some are not playing for Jose, but that is letting the shirt down, totally unacceptable.

I think Jose could and should show a more positive demeanour but the players should be motivated to play for the shirt, those that aren’t should get shipped out. If the club get rid of Jose the same problem will occur in 18 months when they don’t like what the next manager wants them to do. Remember most are not Jose bought players.

Tactically is definitely in Jose domain, that is where I think Jose hasn’t been as smart. A central three in midfield releases Pogba but has two issues, first who is the third central midfield player? Herrera seems half the player, not signed a new contract to my knowledge and may have his head elsewhere, so who does Jose use? Secondly that relies upon strong creative wide players depending on how we set defence up. We have Rashford and Martial who seem to be best down the left however are running up too many blind alleys, Mata on the right who lacks any strength or pace. Miki should have connected midfield with attack yet how can Jose be responsible for his appalling passing and shooting this season? The full backs, well we have relied upon Valencia who can’t cross, Young and now Shaw. Jose hasn’t hit on the right formation for the players we have, likely because they are a bit of a mishmash, bought by different managers for different purposes. So I think Jose needs to do better in controlling midfield and build from there. That is where he can get more from the players.

{Ed025's Note - good post that red man..


 

 

 

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21 Apr 2018 13:52:45
Would prefer to give it to Romero.

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14 Feb 2018 02:01:28
So you would drop Matic and play Blind in holding midfield. Give your head a wobble.

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03 Jan 2018 03:34:56
Van Nistleroy was pretty handy. Denis Law could finish a chance or two.

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15 Dec 2017 00:47:48
How many swap deals have you heard of outside of suggestions on this site (Ronnie) and football "rumours" pages of papers? Unlikely.

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10 Dec 2017 02:26:00
No he isn't redtash, that is heresy! People on here know much better. There are so many free top top top players available this summer. We need to sign them all and then Griezmann is the world class cherry on top. If they don't sign who we think they should then it is Woody or the Glazers who should go.

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22 Apr 2018 22:31:04
I want a golden goose right now!

I will be stunned if we get Isco and Dybala. Maybe bring back Perrera and add dybala.

If we play 3 in midfield to fit Pogba in then we have no room for a 10. Unless Pogba can play better in a 2, which he did early season.

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21 Apr 2018 02:08:50
I 8-2 See him go 😂.

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16 Apr 2018 04:38:11
We have no width at all.

Tony should be perfect for what we need as a right back, but somewhere in the LVG years he completely lost the ability to go down the outside and cross a ball. It is so painful to watch the team draw the opposition to our left, quickly switch play to Tony in acres of space only for him to turn inside and keep possession - or worse still drive the ball really hard and low into the first defender.

If only Young was left footed, or could cross with his left on the outside.

We have strikers or playmakers (Mata and sanchez) for wingers.


The biggest difference for Liverpool is that the two young full backs add width and half decent crosses. I don't even think they assist that many, but they stretch the play out creating space.

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15 Apr 2018 15:12:23
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I think that is the longest sentence I have ever read, I was exhausted by the end of it!

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15 Apr 2018 15:06:38
I think the debate about low press and high press was surely answered? The simplicity of the first goal was just pathetic. For the Tottenham CBs to be squeezing so high up the pitch with the pace of Jesus and Sterling against them was just plane stupidity.

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{Ed001's Note - it really depends on the situation. The problem was a lack of pressure on the ball, as their high press was non-existent. If you have pressure on the ball, then you push the centre backs up, if you haven't then they should drop off. That is nothing to do with high or low press, it is basic defending.}