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14 Apr 2024 11:02:24
Rumours that EtH has lost the dressing room - a recurring theme at United since SAF.
Is it the manager and tactics or the players or the whole club? One things for sure is that after spending a billion pounds we are a mid table team
I’d don’t trust my judgement with this lot.
1.) 14 Apr 2024 12:18:29
The dressing room is too big, has too many players, and has too many cliques.
It's impossible for any manager to keep a group of players this big and disjointed together and pushing in the same direction. While the going is good it works. But the moment things get tough this squad turns on itself and they eat eachother.
I don't think it's possible to have 36 first team players and to not have a group of them dislike or become disenchanted with the manager as simple there there too many players to get regular minutes. Meaning there is always a core group of players who don't play regularly and as such won't buy into the manager or his tactics.
They will be the first ones to turn on the manager when things get tough as they never really bought into him in the first place.
You then have those who are regulars in the first team but who have close friends or are in cliques with players who aren't. Players who maybe have fallen out with the manager.
For example is it a coincidence that Rashford's form went completely out the window around the same time that Sancho (a close friend) had a very public fallout with the manager?
It could be a coincidence or it could be linked.
The same happened when Jose turned on Shaw, the form of several of the players close to Shaw dropped.
These players who have torn loyalties between the manager and friends who don't like the manager will be the next to turn against him.
Then there are the ones who have no particular strong feelings either way, but they tend to go with the crowd as they have no reason to fight against it.
This tends to leave the manager with a few close loyalists, often the players they have brought with them or have worked with before.
But by this point it isn't enough to save them, they don't have enough players to put out a team that is truly playing for them.
2.) 14 Apr 2024 12:50:24
Rinse and repeat. Too many toxic players that have done this under multiple managers. Right now my biggest issue with talk of replacing ETH is that it could further delay moving these players on. We only have 4 or 5 players good enough to start for any team with aspirations of challenging for the league. We need 3+ new starter level players in and a whole boat load out.
3.) 14 Apr 2024 14:50:12
Also doesn’t help if the manager has no emotional intelligence and no people skills.
4.) 14 Apr 2024 15:08:20
Spot on utd Road. If I was a player I wouldn't trust him.
He is only 5 mins away from his next fall out.
Ignore tashfords non effort for 6 months a call out garnacho was dumb but to be expected from eth.
Its not even up for debate now he is on his way out no doubt about it.
Some players will go with him and that's a good thing.
5.) 14 Apr 2024 15:36:06
The dressing room lost us a long time ago. Ship turn all out and star again.
6.) 14 Apr 2024 18:58:37
You would think after 2 years at the club he should be able to remember where the dressing room is.
Perhaps this explains why he keeps picking Rashford. He keeps forgetting how bloody awful he was in the previous game.
7.) 14 Apr 2024 20:25:35
Rumours that [insert manager name] has lost the dressing room.
Of course he has, the only surprise is that it took almost two years.
8.) 14 Apr 2024 20:52:15
The Utd dressing room must be the most pathetic and tedious working environment on the planet. You can just picture the moaning and bitchiness.
9.) 15 Apr 2024 09:41:41
Lol wazza.
Apparently he has no personal skills or emotional intelligence. Jesus, lads on here really have no clue ?.
10.) 15 Apr 2024 14:04:32
Angel, it's hilarious. Rumours that he can be "difficult" to get along with surface and the a couple of weeks later some sections of the fanbase are suggesting we've hired Rain man to manage us ???.
11.) 15 Apr 2024 21:09:51
You'd have thought after no renovations in the ground, the dressing room would be in the same place it always is.
12.) 16 Apr 2024 00:34:23
Yeah I’ve totally misjudged EtH boys.
The players are so motivated they’d run through walls for Eric it’s plain to see. Not to mention how he’s got the best out of Ronaldo, Sancho, Maguire, Van der beek and Varane and increasing their market value.
You can’t argue that he doesn’t get the very best out of his footballers and never have I seen such fitness levels and resilience to injury before.
It must be so inspiring for the team to see how uses the media to show his unwavering defence of his players and takes total accountability for his decisions.
Give him £400m to rebuild this team in his image and new long term contract. There definitely aren’t any managers capable of surpassing these elite levels.
13.) 16 Apr 2024 10:14:43
What a ridiculous post Utd Road. ETH isn't without his flaws but its easy to make him the scapegoat over a decade of issues.
Ole openly came out and said bringing Ronaldo back to the club was a mistake. We overpaid for Sancho and he is known to have disciplinary problems, he's hardly set the Bundesliga alight since his loan. ETH actively tried to move Maguire and Van de Beek on in the summer, is it his fault there was no interest because we have amateurs negotiating.
A lot of keyboard football experts here with absolutely no substance to contribute.
14.) 16 Apr 2024 11:53:25
Good managers improve players and keep their jobs.
I can’t wait to see him lead us out in August.
As I said by every conceivable metric Eric is the best.
19 Mar 2024 19:27:14
Heard Alfie Doughty from Luton is being looked at for LB. Any one seen him play and have thoughts on him?
1.) 19 Mar 2024 20:11:58
Yep he’s been really good for Luton this season, a solid FPL pick too. He has really good delivery, and was probably their best player when we played them in February. I think he plays more as a wing back in Luton’s setup.
2.) 20 Mar 2024 02:11:01
I like both their eing backs. But it's very different in a back 4 so we're judging a player in 1 position but he'll be asked to play a different one. Both have good delivery.
23 Jun 2022 18:44:21
There’s little to no rumours of us signing a holding midfielder- which I would think is a priority.
Has anyone heard anything?
Thanks ??.
{Ed002's Note - I have previously explained where the interest is.}
1.) 23 Jun 2022 21:53:41
Fdj has been linked since the season ended. He will be our no6 if signed jacko.
2.) 23 Jun 2022 23:45:24
EtH said previously he is at his best playing in a 2 man 6 system. Said that when he introduced that De Jong took strides forward.
25 May 2022 22:11:44
Reading the posts - United interested in Torres snd Timber amongst other targets
Is it one signing or two?
Would that mean more sales than Bailly and Jones?
Will Tuanzebe be sold this window? He’s shown great promise as a kid but hasn’t really kicked on.
{Ed002's Note - Tuanzebe will leave as well.}
1.) 25 May 2022 23:30:24
Would not be surprised if it is both. Would allow for Bailly ane Lindelof to leave and generate funds. We could move to a back 3 or Timber has positional flexibility, we also don't know whether Verane can last a full season.
2.) 26 May 2022 05:21:58
For whatever reasons Tuanzebes chance has gone now. I think Bailly and Jones out is almost certain and there must be a huge question mark over Lindelof- If a bid came in from an Italian or Spanish club where its less physical I can see Lindelof going- never been strong enough, fans are lukewarm about him he just doesn't seem to fit at United.
3.) 26 May 2022 08:02:24
I think it would be easy to get carried away with these fantasies of selling half the squad. We'll need at least 4-5 players capable of playing CB against top teams so imagine we'll be stuck with Lindelof/ Maguire/ Varane for the coming season at least.
4.) 26 May 2022 08:16:58
I doubt EtH will sell Lindelof, he's actually pretty well suited to his style of play. Good passing range, mobile and capable of defending in the wide areas.
5.) 26 May 2022 09:06:39
And still no rumours of Maguire leaving……despite the price tag I think he’s the weakest one out of him, Lindelof and Bailly.
6.) 26 May 2022 09:35:48
Lindelof is targetted by every robust striker in the PL he is as weak as a kitten-if ETH doesn't see that then the defensive problems will continue.
7.) 26 May 2022 09:46:24
Bailly, Lindelof and Maguire aren't good enough in my opinion but the best thing a player can be is available. Bailly simply never is, his injuries have been an issue since his first season and he should be first out of the door in my opinion.
On our CB's, I'm really wanting to see Mengi given a chance at some pointas he looks like he could be a good player. It's all well and good having these promising young players, however, if they never get the chance or we send them to a club that has been picked out of a hat on loan they will stall. We've seen it with plenty of players in the past few years, Fosu Mensah, Henderson, Gomes, Tuanzebe, Dalot etc. Not saying all or even any of them would have become world beaters but their treatment when they were clearly too good for u23's hasn't been great at United and we've seen too many not live up to what they possibly could have been due to it.
8.) 26 May 2022 12:59:08
RJ have to agree. Fosu Mensah was the big one I think. Tuanzebe been very unlucky with injuries at the wrong time. If memory serves right he picked on up as he was about to start v liverpool a couple of years ago and he really looked like breaking into the team.
9.) 26 May 2022 20:07:05
Tuanzebe had it all, strong, quick, good on the ball, and was a real leader at youth level.
He showed real promise in his games for United. Played with a maturity beyond his years.
Unfortunately he got injured at bad moments meaning he missed chances and his development stalled because of that.
It's a shame but he needs to move on for the sake of his career now, although it might have to be a drop down to the championship to prove himself before he might be able to make his way up to the EPL.
19 Jul 2019 23:50:28
Is it going to be a case of Matic out and Matuidi in?
1.) 20 Jul 2019 05:43:44
One old player for another?
2.) 20 Jul 2019 06:57:23
Is it case of don't believe everything you red in a newspaper.
3.) 20 Jul 2019 10:05:48
If it’s in the press then it’s happening, I’d put huge amounts of money on it if I were you.
4.) 20 Jul 2019 11:26:27
AJH,
Lol hahah.
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06 Apr 2024 22:35:13
Lads
I just watched the film United again on Netflix/ with a cheeky beer and cried all the way through it. I wish the current team cared as much about the club has my grandad, dad, I and my son do, I’d like to see some pride against the scousers tomorrow and I’d like that spirit back
I’m soft and sentimental but always a red
GGMU.
1.) 07 Apr 2024 08:46:49
never seen it is it new or been there for a while. they have city's last season treble on atm and good to watch, hard to stomach.
2.) 07 Apr 2024 12:01:07
Been on for a while, Ahmad. Does a very good job of capturing the essence of our club. Make sure you have a pack of Kleenex at hand, though.
3.) 08 Apr 2024 01:15:40
I love United Noucamp, but not enough to require Kleenex.
04 Apr 2024 23:19:37
Asking the Eds - who do you see as manager next season and how many new signings? I know it’s theoretical but I’m interested in your opinion.
{Ed077's Note - Potter and 6 new signings. That's just my opinion, not any inside info. }
1.) 05 Apr 2024 08:24:08
Tend to agree Ed whether we like it or not. Potter is Ashworth’s man, they know how to work successfully together, and can build a squad suited to that style. Last night has to be the final nail in the coffin for ten Hag.
{Ed077's Note - didn't OGC Nice try to bring Potter in as manager last summer? So Ineos do seem to rate him.}
2.) 05 Apr 2024 09:46:41
We just have to wait and see.
I'm not fussed at all in who comes in.
There are a couple I'd rather it not be but I really don't care because even the ones I don't like that much are upgrades on eth imo.
It will be an interesting summer that's for sure.
Sad when the off season provides more interest than the on season.
3.) 05 Apr 2024 10:11:57
I thought Southgate was still the preferred candidate if it came to it. Welcome the Rashy love-in.
4.) 05 Apr 2024 17:46:17
Thanks Ed for replying
I’m hoping SJR is more impatient on signings and we get more - maybe a new team ?.
{Ed077's Note - youre welcome Jacko.
You can't try to do too much too soon, its going to take some time. Plus you have to remember money isn't infinite.}
24 Feb 2024 22:26:56
We’ve had two Dutch managers now - and it hasn’t been good by either
I hoped to see a progressive style of play with us comfortable on the ball but it’s down to individuals
I can’t imagine ETH being in post next season but we’ve had lots of managers and little progress - does anyone know why?
1.) 25 Feb 2024 01:37:52
The whole club is a mess, the recruitment including the recruitment of the manager has been a joke for years.
2.) 25 Feb 2024 07:55:46
What does nationality have to do with it?
That’s like saying SAF and David Moyes are the same no?
3.) 25 Feb 2024 08:01:52
Gds2 that's true but I'm now 100% convinced eth is not the man to sort it and I'm 100% convinced that he won't be given the opportunity after this summer.
4.) 25 Feb 2024 08:53:45
I'll be surprised if he makes it to summer! I like to think I'm always behind players and manager, but we just aren't progressing atm. The thing that worries me more than anything is who will replace him? Managers are like strikers atm, not that many good ones about .
5.) 25 Feb 2024 13:26:07
Nice enough fella but not good enough for United. Again, I don't know who would be but if you imagine a room with SJR/ NEW CEO/ Brailsford/ dan Ashworth on one side of a desk and ETH on the other being appraised for his last 2 years would they be impressed enough to give him a new contract? I think not.
6.) 25 Feb 2024 12:55:51
It's hard not to overreact after a defeat. It's a frustrating team to support. We beat Villa and Spurs lose, gaining ground on both, then the week later lose a cheap game against a side assembled much cheaper than ours (without Palinha even playing) who should have won a lot easier than they eventually did.
The manager insists he was pleased with the character we showed and that we're on the right track. He has to say those things but they're hard to go along with.
I'd like to think it was purely down to the mess that saw us forced to play Rashford through the middle again, a tactic that hasn't given any joy all season, simply as there was no other alternative. I hear the calls to play McT or even Diallo there and personally think he did the only thing he could. The bigger issue is the whole Martial saga, a player that's been more unavailable than available in his years with us. I don't even know what the injury is, if he's a flake, or is just happy to watch from the sides and pick up his dosh. He doesn't strike me as a player busting a gut to get fit and play a part. Even then when he is fit he's not made an impact for ages.
Yet Liverpool, City and Arsenal have all lost their main striker this season and are still all fighting it out at the top.
There are much 'lesser' sides assembled much cheaper who are more enjoyable to watch and you know what you're going to get each week. With Utd it's like a lucky dip, and the wins are usually by the skin of their teeth.
Unless we get some form of European football I don't see how the manager stays, with all the other changes being made around him. It may well be viewed that the next manager just gets another patchwork quilt with yet another assortment of players to blend but I guess all managers are in the same boat in that regard. I guess Onana, Martinez and Hojlund are here for the long haul but not so sure about Antony/ Eriksen/ Malacia.
Massive few months ahead and we had been on a nice run. Just a bit frustrating that the games we'd expect to win can't ever be counted on which is the nature of the Prem.
7.) 25 Feb 2024 14:40:26
Glad people are finally coming round to the fact ETH is not good enough….
But did I just read it right not many good managers about atm.
Nagglesman
Flick
Zidane
Tuchel will be
Conte
Jose
Potter
Low
Xavi
That’s just the ones who are out of work atm, so if we want none of them there will be the ones they replace!
8.) 25 Feb 2024 15:14:05
Quite a few of those managers are deemed (and have proved) to be quite difficult characters. But suppose it doesn't always need to be a problem if they're doing a good job. Would be interested in what Nagglesman does next but obviously Bayern didn't like something about the way he went about things. But please not Potter, nice guy I'm sure but I don't feel he's able to step up as he's proved.
9.) 25 Feb 2024 15:56:41
Bayern is difficult to manage as us, always under spotlight in Germany and lots of interference from directors, ex players, etc…. So would not put much on that.
That’s without Southgate even being on that list which is most worrying.
Potter not for me either, but I am not sure it’s been proved he is no good, you can’t take Chelsea fiasco into it.
10.) 25 Feb 2024 16:21:16
Dutch people can come off very direct in my opinion, not always the best cultural fit.
11.) 25 Feb 2024 16:45:34
It's a big blot on his copy book and he would not be my choice. But frankly all of our opinions are irrelevant when it comes to choosing.
12.) 25 Feb 2024 18:09:04
The grass is always greener fellas.
13.) 26 Feb 2024 07:10:02
Isn't Nagelsmann Germany coach until the end of the Euros? Tuchel might be a good manager, but I think he is more suited to the continent that the Premier League, the others on the list feel like yesterday's men, like including Sparky and Bruce.
The only other option is to look at the next generation of managers like Alonso, Amorim, de Zerbi or even Farioli, but that can be still hit and hope and probably for the moment best to stick with EtH, it is just one bad season after all.
18 Jul 2023 19:56:02
After signing a striker - is it a matter of selling before buying?
And is re-signing Jonny Evans - on a short term contract but “keeping an open mind” - to free up funds to strengthen midfield?
1.) 19 Jul 2023 07:57:21
I hope so, but who knows. For me personally if one of Martinez or Varane is out injured or suspended, I feel more comfortable having Lindelof play then if Casemiro is out injured or suspended and one of McTominay or Fred have to play instead.
On that basis alone I feel that wee need a better alternative to Casemiro than we need a better 3rd choice CB.
2.) 19 Jul 2023 08:16:53
I think Ambrabat comes in but looks like no CD unless we move Maguire and a surprise name/ signing imo.
Disasi, who we have been linked with, will probably be gone by then. The korean guy went to Bayern for a lot less than was being reported in the media and the Disasi quoted figures are on par with the Korean guy. IF we passed on the Korean guy can't see us paying that for Disasi.
On another note it seems like a lot of numbers being reported in the media is overinflated and deals getting done at lower numbers for most clubs with exception of a few players.
Arsenal seem to be paying full tarrif on their transfers and none of the 3 are worth the money imo.
3.) 19 Jul 2023 11:04:56
Frankly, I'd rather have Evans back for a season as 4th choice CB than Maguire. Evans is more intelligent in his positioning and reading of the game, enough to cover at least somewhat for his lacking mobility.
Get as much as possible for Maguire, keep Evans as a backup CB, and put the money from Maguire towards Hojlund and Amrabat.
If we can clear out some of the deadwood, while bringing in Onana, Mount, Amrabat and Hojlund, I'll be reasonably happy with this summer. I'd ideally hope for a second striker as well, someone good if not spectacular (Ollie Watkins was mentioned here recently, he'd do IMO if he could be brought in for a reasonable price), but just those 4 would still be a good window IMO, and give us a solid foundation to build off in January or next summer.
4.) 19 Jul 2023 11:32:09
I don’t think centre half is too big a concern for us tbh. Apart from his big injury I think Martinez will prove to be a pretty robust player for us. Varane is obviously fragile but I don’t see Lindelof as a bad alternative at all. We can’t carry Maguire obviously, but in Jonny Evans it’s a profile that will suit us perfectly. I don’t think he’ll play much at all. Agree that we need another player in to push/ deputise for Casemiro. That and a striker are priorities and I’d be more than happy with that going into the new season.
04 Jun 2023 21:33:05
Fingers crossed for new owners this week - anybody got any news on the sale?
1.) 05 Jun 2023 00:52:23
Man Utd is a public company quoted on the US exchanges. There are rules as to the timing of announcements in order to prevent insiders profiting from advance knowledge. There will be a public announcement. Until then there is only conjecture.
I do find it interesting that 6 months after this distasteful haggling saga began, the share price values the company at only $3.07bn approx 1/ 2 the £5bn+ offers bandied around in the press. Makes me think they haven't received an offer anywhere near their £6bn valuation, and they won't be selling at all.
Or is it worth a punt?
2.) 05 Jun 2023 07:23:16
I doubt the Glazers are looking at the share price for a true value, they will be looking at the value of NFL teams as a comparison, with the Commanders currently being sold for around £4.8bn.
Their benchmark will be the Cowboys which is worth around £6.5bn, I think they would have been surprised and maybe disappointed only 2 bidders showed interest in an outright purchase and a bidding war didn't emerge, however the £1bn of debt and the need for a new stadium pushing the real price up to £7-8bn might have been a factor, who knows.
3.) 05 Jun 2023 08:49:39
I was with people associated with the club after the FA cup and no one knows anything on where things stand or going. Either its the best kept secret ever or something not right with the whole thing not going to plan.
I agree its about time, we hear something of substance from the club and not all the speculation through the media channels. Either they pull it or announce a winning bid.
4.) 05 Jun 2023 12:31:14
The share price is an indicator of outside investor sentiment. If the club is really worth or is going to sell next week for £5bn net of debt wouldn't it make sense to buy up the non-Glazer owned outstanding non-voting shares at 1/ 2 the price?
Completely different metrics for valuing a US franchise system sports club. They're private companies operating in a closed shop. There's no promotion or relegation, or qualification for international tournaments, and they have salary caps which in effect enables them to lock in profits for the long term. There's a degree of certainty. These are the reasons why the top European clubs wanted a European Super League. and why they'll probably try again.
11 Jan 2016 23:55:59
As there are no comments from any of the Eds so far - I'm thinking that there are no legs in this.
Would he partner Schneiderlin or be competition for that place? would this mean that Felliani is OK for transfer?
31 Dec 2015 14:31:19
Ed002 - I love your responses - they simply answer the question asked - ha! Which CB's do you think are of interest to United at the moment?
Thanks in advance of any response.
{Ed002's Note - I have answered this already.}
21 Aug 2015 19:53:26
I don't know about Evans being included in a deal for Stones but I'd take a straight swap for a shiny pebble right now based upon last few seasons
Pardoe
If true this continues Woodwards strategy of bidding less than is required to purchase the player as done all the way through the window
If they are trying to do that so that they can say they have tried - that won't pacify the fans
And why wait to the end of the window before randomly bidding for him? Doesn't sound right to me but I would take anyone right now over TC23.
05 Apr 2024 17:46:17
Thanks Ed for replying
I’m hoping SJR is more impatient on signings and we get more - maybe a new team ?.
{Ed077's Note - youre welcome Jacko.
You can't try to do too much too soon, its going to take some time. Plus you have to remember money isn't infinite.}
15 Mar 2024 18:37:06
I’ve got a good feeling that we will win at weekend- even though it’s against form
?#BELIEVE.
15 Aug 2022 21:01:06
Ed001 you mentioned EtH sticking with Maguire - I also think that DDG adds to the whole team being nervous too. The cost of replacing them both would be significant - are the club looking to replace and sell?
Thanks.
{Ed001's Note - not that I am aware of no.}
20 Apr 2019 19:25:01
I think people are being harsh on Ashley Young - never United quality but at least he tries.
26 Mar 2019 10:40:45
Still laughing at Liberace
#Genius 🎹🎹🎹😂😂😂.