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29 May 2018 13:26:16
Remember the days when we would sign a player and the Liverpool fans would go nuts that we are moving further ahead of them and their board/ manager was wasting time and signing the wrong players.

And we would just laugh at them, I miss those days.

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29 May 2018 13:42:27
Agree Shappy.
We should not give them the opportunity to show us the mirror. We focus on our own targets and get on with our path and proceed toward our own objectives.
No need for panic and whining. What will be will be.

29 May 2018 13:51:44
Shappy,

Like when we signed Sanchez you mean or they sold their best player to Barcelona (twice)?

They signed a player before us in the window, who cares?

29 May 2018 14:01:38
Yes i remember when we signed pogba, zlatan, bailly and micky in one window and liverpool fans were up in arms about our ambition. We finished 6th, they came 4th.

Also when we signed lukaku, matic, lindelof and alexis in one season. They made a champions league final, we got knocked out in the round of 16.

We shouldn't be focusing on what other clubs are doing because we are more than capable of shooting ourselves in the foot.

29 May 2018 14:52:19
I remember when I used to be able to look at the Liverpool team and say, "I'd probably take one of your players to improve Utd" and virtually every one of our squad would strengthen them. Nowadays, well not quite so much, despite them constantly losing their best players, almost the opposite.

I see the transfer/ football plan from Pep, Poch, Klopp - I don't see Jose's plan yet, I'm hoping to this summer or it will be more of the same.

29 May 2018 15:02:06
Poch,? He is replacing good players with average, recent signings by Spurs have been poor.

29 May 2018 15:13:07
I disagree mate, but even so - the players he is signing you can see where they fit and where they are needed.

Moura and Aurier are big gambles but reasonable fees and pedigree. Sanchez is going to be great and Llorente was a clever backup signing.

Just to be clear, I can see the idea, the rationale behind the signing, how they will fit the system/ style - they aren't worldbeaters but they fit. Ours seem a random mix needing different types of players, almost like an International team picking players on form who don't know one anothers game.

29 May 2018 15:50:23
Poch has been using the same players for 2/ 3 seasons, only recent signing that has played regularly is Sanchez, replacing Toby who I think is one of the best CB in epl.
Forget Sergej and Moura, there few others like Wimmer, and N'Koudou who have been average.

On Utd I think we have some good players, but like you say we don't play like a team, we lack cohesion.

29 May 2018 15:51:58
If your comparing pics maze then I'm clearly better looking than you and more mentally stable considering the recreational activities. Not to mention I can juggle a potato, golf ball and tennis ball a lot more than you can with both feet.

29 May 2018 16:20:26
Let’s get this right. Poch’s record in the transfer market is very average. Aurier is a liability, Moura adds nothing, Trippier is a huge downgrade on Walker, and Janssen and Llorente are massive flops. He also bought Sissoko and Lamela who are terrible.

Sanchez at the back is a good signing, but at the expense of Alderweireld! I’d be very worried if he came to us and was given a cheque book.

Jose has bought a whole new spine in the team which was needed in Bailly, Pog, Matic and Lukaku and all have been pretty decent. Lindelof will come good as he’s only 22. Sanchez is a class act and will work it out, and Zlatan was good for us for a season.

I am a critic of Jose and the style of footbal we play but let’s not just criticise him blindly. Most of his transfers have improved our team. Poch has been a disaster in the market.

29 May 2018 16:40:35
It's all Jose fault.

29 May 2018 17:34:19
Poch has had many flops, but my point is you know why those players were signed. You can understand the logic, like a great deal of transfers they didn't all work out. I'm not saying he is great in the market, I'm saying there is logic!

He signed Trippier, Alderweirald, Sanchez, Wanyama - all four are solid good signings for very little money comparitively.

Aurier and Moura still a lot to prove, but too soon to tell. Llorente clever deal.

The rest have been flops, but relatively inexpensive flops asside from Sissoko - they made sense to me. Only one that is really ropey is Aurier, but he is like a wild horse that if tamed could be fantastic. Sissoko was the lemon, but he did look formidable for Newcastle at times and they'll recoup a fair chunk if moved on.

29 May 2018 17:39:58
Couldn’t agree more Eric. Sorry beast but I think you are wrong regarding Poch on his ability in the transfer market. He has replaced technically talented players with athletes and work horses. The only half decent signing is Sanchez and his positional awareness is shocking. He is lucky he is so quick so he can make up for his mistakes.

On the whole, I think Jose has bought pretty well. Where he is failing is getting the most out of the players and getting them to play as a unit. We are awful to watch but if he can get more out of the players we will be challenging comfortably. Pep has done great in the market and bought the right players for his system. But he has been given a brand new defence. Klopp has made some good signings but others are misses. The grass is not always greener.

29 May 2018 18:55:53
I read that poch had a net spend of 19 mil since 2014 . Working on a fraction of the salary of teams like United, city etc .
With spurs having to pay for a new stadium, I think he is doing great with limited resources compared to the teams around him .

29 May 2018 18:59:49
Should also say it's not only the manager that is responsible for buying players.

29 May 2018 19:22:44
Beast,

I understand where you are coming from in regards to Poch and I agree. While his signings haven’t been great, they were signed for his “plan” with Spurs inability to spend big in mind.

I’m a José fan but I also think we need to see his image still within his signings. Someone mentioned the other day that we don’t always need to have big name signings, but some that could come in and do the job they’re asked to do within Jose’s “plan”.

Saying that, we had players like O’Shea who wasn’t a world beater but did a job that a Fergie needed him to do and that worked. This is what I believe you mean when you want to see a plan, and if it is I agree with you mate.







 

 

 
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