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20 Mar 2018 00:19:04
Hi Eds - Just wondering if Utd are still interested in Carlos Soler and if you can shed any light on a potential deal?

The Beast

{Ed002's Note - There is interest but Valencia are not keen to sell.}


1.) 20 Mar 2018 08:01:42
Ed002, awhile back there was reports United was interested in another Valencia player, Jose Gaya. Is there any interest there is was it just click bait?

{Ed002's Note - JM was interested when he was at Chelsea, but I gues MU might add him to the list of LBs they are interested in.}


2.) 20 Mar 2018 17:55:07
Ed002, if you don't mind who is on that list of LB's and will Shaw move on in the summer? Cheers.

{Ed002's Note - Nothing has changed - if Mourinho were to leave maybe Shaw will stay but right now he wants him gone and would like one of the following:
Danny Rose (LB)
Aaron Martin (LB)
Alex Sandro (LB) - I would strike him from the list now but don't be surprised if he reappears - it all depends on a player at another club
Philipp Max (LB)}


3.) 20 Mar 2018 17:56:26
Cheers Ed.


4.) 20 Mar 2018 19:16:36
Cheers Ed.


5.) 20 Mar 2018 19:31:12
I suspect that Philipp Max will end up at Bayern Munich if Alaba leaves. Ironically he looks like a really good left back. Just the kind I would like to see brought in. Young, talented and hungry with loads of potential.


6.) 21 Mar 2018 04:31:26
Ed2 are united looking at sessengon.

{Ed002's Note - there was interest when JM was at another side.}


7.) 21 Mar 2018 12:06:37
Huggy, allegedly Shaw is quite hungry, too :)


 

 

21 Feb 2018 23:45:43
I'm reading a lot of people justifying that pathetic performance. SAF played like this in Europe, Sevilla are tough at home, no easy games at this stage of the competition.

The thing is we play like this whenever we come up against a half decent team. Incidentally Moyes took us away in Europe and we played some great stuff, remember the guy that had no European experience?

Sevilla are not up to much, but we were lucky to escape with a draw tonight however you want to dress it up. They will be very dangerous at OT, far more dangerous than we were tonight.

Maybe it was like this sometimes under SAF, but only "SOMETIMES" with Jose it's every time. If we go out to Sevilla, it's because we didn't play to win tonight.

It would be nice to not read BS excuses to justify this rubbish we are subjected to almost every week. Maybe my drum is getting worn out, but the excuse bank is surely out of coin by now. It's just not good enough, we put up with a rubbish Europa League campaign to qualify for this by the skin of our teeth and then put in these types of performances! WTFP?

The Beast

1.) 21 Feb 2018 23:57:48
How many games did Moyes do us proud in Europe? Was it just the Leverkusen game or . No one is saying Jose is producing exceptional football bit my god the hyperbole in here is ridiculous.


2.) 21 Feb 2018 23:59:13
Goos post Beast and i reckon we houdlve gone for the kill today as i hope but Jose played it safe which is quite sad considering how poor Sevilla were today.

The players look scared to try something exciting ncase it doesn't work and jose gets angry.

They are all under strict rules by the looks of it.


3.) 22 Feb 2018 00:20:46
Made attacking substitutions the team just didn't click going forward.


4.) 22 Feb 2018 01:32:09
Weren't they like for like subs (Rashford/ Martial for Sanchez/ Mata)? It's not clicking because we attack with 3 men maximum, often just 2 - we have forgotten how to attack as a team as it seems our main focus is on keeping teams out, not making them keep us out.

It's anti-Utd and it isn't hyperbole if it happens virtually every time we play a team that isn't prepared to curl up and die.


5.) 22 Feb 2018 10:10:12
Couldn’t agree more beast. Went away yet again not to get beaten rather than trying to take the game to them. Nobody here can tell me man for man Sevilla are a better side than us, so why not attack them, why be happy with a bore draw? Anyone who things a nil nil is a good away score line is mistaken. A score draw not too bad, but a nil nil means we now have to win the return leg. Score draw and we’re out. Pathetic performance once again last night, nothing is inproving.


6.) 22 Feb 2018 11:44:57
Rubbish europa league campaign? You mean the one we won? Oh no we won a trophy but we didn't win it in this specific way that makes me happy. Are you aware of how spoilt you sound. You know this is why fans of other clubs hate us - a huge amount of us have got too used to success. We have to be practical we are still in a rebuilding phase. Yes a lot of money has been spent but the team needed and needs a lot of work. Short termism and harking back to the good old days do not benefit the club.


7.) 22 Feb 2018 12:56:33
Beast, you called it absolutely right. If De Gea hadn't made unbelievable saves, we will be looking at a 2 or 3 nil scoreline. I hate the passionless, clueless displays. I hate the lack of cohesion in the team. This result is not a good result, one goal for Seville and we have to score two. Even if we score first, we will still be extremely nervous.
I would say it is advantage Seville.
But the most ridiculous post i'd the one from 12daysofhemida. "A huge amount of us have got used to success", "We have to be practical we are still in a rebuilding phase", "Short termism and harking back to the good old days do not benefit the club". These are exactly the type of comments that drive me potty. How could you get too used to success? So shall we have a few years of rubbish performances as we don't want to be to used to success? Utter tripe. Then he mentions we are still rebuilding, we have been rebuilding for five years. A good business doesn't allow its performance to deteriorate, then start rebuilding. All the top clubs are in a constant state of rebuilding. Harking back to the old times? History is what defines you, and history is what you learn from and improve. So when you talk about harking back to the old times, you're basically telling us that we might as well throw away our history.
If you allow standards to drop and mediocrity to set in, then we might as well pack our bags and go home. That's not the philosophy of the club I've supported for over 50 years. we were built on attacking entertaining football with all the right values. Unfortunately, we are losing these values.


8.) 22 Feb 2018 15:03:38
Attack x3 you'd make a fine spin doctor.

"So shall we have a few years of rubbish performances as we don't want to be to used to success? "

The few years of rubbish performances HAPPENED under Moyes and LVG. Alongside that were rubbish results. No one was happy, myself included. Now Jose has improved RESULTS a hell of a lot. The performances (last night included) are still often poor. You cannot expect results and performances to be improved when the squad is substandard for a title tilt. Jose is improving us.

"we have been rebuilding for five years. "

Yes, that's just how bad we got.

"A good business doesn't allow its performance to deteriorate, then start rebuilding. "

I agree, but that is exactly what the club allowed to happen. Expecting five years of stagnation to be corrected in two years is unrealistic.

"History is what defines you, and history is what you learn from and improve. "

Once again we agree. history has shown us that sticking by a manager when we fans are calling for his head can be beneficial. Can you imagine what would have happened if the fans had been listened to with Fergie? Also whilst we're talking about history, here's one from Fergie, "Attack wins you games, defence wins you leagues. " I think that is what Mourinho is trying to do.

"So when you talk about harking back to the old times, you're basically telling us that we might as well throw away our history. "

Er. no. Just no. I can't even think of a witty, relevant or scathing retort to that. Sorry.

"If you allow standards to drop and mediocrity to set in, then we might as well pack our bags and go home. That's not the philosophy of the club I've supported for over 50 years. we were built on attacking entertaining football with all the right values. Unfortunately, we are losing these values. "

Let me see if I can do your putting words in other people's mouth shtick. so if we don't play well and win you we should all stop supporting Utd? Utter tripe, piddle and tomfoolery.

We weren't built on attacking entertaining football it's a philosophy we have played more often than not since the days of Busby. A style of play that I love and miss, but since Ferguson left that philosophy has been left behind, through poor appointments, mismanagement and NOW necessity. Our defence isn't up to task and so we need to play more defensively.

Whilst having a nosy around the internet, I found this description of Newton Heath in their first season. "Tough, diligent men who formed a powerful side. " Sounds a lot like a Mourinho side. Maybe we were built on stoic defending first, entertaining football second (like all good teams) .


9.) 22 Feb 2018 18:22:17
Great post 12 days.
Beast the performances are poor but its the players not the manager.
How many top class players in our squad?
Not even top class on the european stage top class in epl. Jose performing minor miricle to keep them competitive imo.


10.) 22 Feb 2018 20:34:16
Great posts 12 days. As good as I've ever seen on here to be honest. Great way of debating.


11.) 22 Feb 2018 22:10:35
Oh come on now, it's ridiculous. People are still plugging their same view week in week out.

The fact is, there are some very good and some not so good players in the squad. It's the same for the rest of the top 6 or so teams. It's the manager's job to get the best out of them.

If your idea of getting the best of them is by holding the better players back to set up defensively and grind out results, then we'll agree that Mourinho is doing well. If your idea of an attacking, exciting and progressive style of football is the way forward, then he's not the right man.


 

 

13 Jan 2017 19:14:26
Hopefully this Costa incident is the trigger for the much needed Chelsea collapse. Win on Sunday and everyone will be scared that we are coming for them.

The Beast

{Ed025's Note - my fear beast is that they may make a move for lukaku now, he would jump at the chance imo mate..


1.) 13 Jan 2017 20:52:24
We, I really don't rate Lukaku, I know he can sometimes bully CBs and score dramatic goals but generally he looks like a fat lump blundering around. Just my view of course.

{Ed025's Note - thats very nasty and short sighted of you AJH...but very true.. :)


2.) 13 Jan 2017 22:07:38
He's like that heavily made up blonde on a night out who looks very tasty until you get her into the light, beer googles at their most seductive.


3.) 13 Jan 2017 22:10:18
😂😂😂


4.) 14 Jan 2017 03:46:48
If costa is sold or even just has a falling out with conte, we really need to beat liverpool, as i was hoping and i think most utd fans will agree, if we aren't able to win the league it is better if chelsea do it rather than one of city or liverpool.


5.) 14 Jan 2017 11:16:54
Lukaku is perfect for Chelsea's system but he's no Diego Costa. I can't see them letting him go this January though although a summer deal makes sense.


6.) 14 Jan 2017 12:13:23
I know Costa is expensive but £80 million for a coffee is just ridiculous.


7.) 14 Jan 2017 14:26:04
I'm not sure about timing but I read that the Chinese are going to be clamping down big time on the money being spent by their clubs, as a means of capital controls (just doing it with Bitcoin now) . So maybe there is a major timing factor involved, possibly a one time opportunity for the start of their new season.

Possibly why the amounts in question seem so desperate and why Costa is trying to force a move now. Just speculating of course.


8.) 14 Jan 2017 19:56:59
Costa isn't trying to force his way out.


9.) 15 Jan 2017 01:30:24
i hope costa stays where he is (and stops scoring) because if he leaves they might bid for moussa dembele of celtic.


10.) 15 Jan 2017 13:36:29
hmm Jackson, who knows what to believe. Quite a coincidence we were only talking of something like this the other day. That said you still smashed Leicester and have a £30m striker rotting on the bench, so still need a few more spanners in the works to give us a sniff.


11.) 16 Jan 2017 19:38:40
Hope he stays. He's saved my dream team this season.


 

 

01 Jul 2016 17:29:56
I just read that Neymar signs a 5 year deal, but his buyout clause rises the further he gets into his contract, this seems odd to me is it odd?

It's almost as if they are telling clubs to come and get him now if they are interested.

Does anybody know what his buyout was prior to the new contract? It's now £167m for the first year, rising to 186m 2nd year and then £209 for the third), on the Beeb.

The Beast

1.) 01 Jul 2016 18:07:30
Not sure but this deal is pretty sensible from barca, with teams like palace throwing £30m at Marseille for that Belgian lad who knows how much players will be going for in 5 years, it's gone even more ridiculous this year.


2.) 01 Jul 2016 18:08:46
Beast I don't know enough about buy out clauses but it makes great sense for the owners as under normal circumstances the players value decreases as his contact runs down. It also means that they will be in no rush to Renew and give him another rise in order to uphold his value.


3.) 01 Jul 2016 19:34:13
Great points guys, hadn't even considered that in my haste.


 

 

10 Jul 2015 16:38:30
Hi Ed's - I am a regular contributor to the site as you may know. Several people ask about a fantasy football league each year and I have been part of one for the past 4/5 years, I can vouch for the credibility of it. I didn't want to post on the website without your permission first, this is what I want to post, do you mind?

"I am part of a dream team league, ran by a chap called Andy. I have done this for the past 4+years and it works a treat. You pay £50 upfront and each month there is a prize for manager of the month, the remaining money goes into a pot for the top 3 managers of the year - all registration fees are redistributed to winning managers. I have personally won a few managers of the month and have been paid appropriately. This is just a group of guys coming together and nothing formal/company orchestrated, so if you want to join the league the code is 90970-25762 (it is the Fantasy Premier League). Andy will provide you with his acct details if you join and over recent seasons we have had over 50 people in the league – it was primarily a group of friends but I have asked him if he would mind me opening it up to my “banter buddies” and he has no problem so long as it causes him no issues"

The Beast

{Ed002's Note - Sure, no problem.}


1.) 10 Jul 2015 17:24:08
Super Beast, Might join you on that .


2.) 10 Jul 2015 19:35:39
Now I'm confused yesterday someone was going to setup a FF competition for the lads all here at no cost, I think that £50 is a tad steep especially when in euros it's 70 or more for your one Beast.

Now I'm not a tight git but I try play the FF gig and more times than not forget to change players etc, as I get caught up in stuff at home or within family homes doing repairs etc so miss a lot of the tactical changes lol!!

If we were to set up a MUFC page FF competition and at a cost of €20/25 I would enter it no problem


3.) 10 Jul 2015 20:02:09
Pyramid Scheme!


4.) 10 Jul 2015 23:10:25
We had one for free last season, not sure who set it up but we had over 70 people in it from this website.

The one I am talking about has cash aspects attached so obviously won't be for everyone. I throw in £50 with this guys league because if you win a manager of the month its normally £80-£100, then £1k or so to overall winner.

Horses for courses, I just put it out there as some people were asking and I have always been paid on time.


 

 

 

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19 Mar 2018 04:53:51
Going on from the thread of lookalike footballers - For a good laugh type in youtube - "Footballers with Mesut Özil eyes! "

The Beast

1.) 19 Mar 2018 09:19:37
Nice one Beast! Wenger, wow. I won't sleep tonight!


2.) 19 Mar 2018 09:55:44
Beast 👍👍👍
What a nightmare 🤣🤣🤣🤣.


3.) 19 Mar 2018 11:30:01
Classic beast😂😂.


 

 

14 Mar 2018 17:12:20
When was the last time we played a team to beat them out of sight?

I think we are seeing how big a mistake that contract extension was now. At least it puts all those hypothetical questions to be now like, ' would you rather get beat playing great football, or win the CL playing defensive dross like we are seeing week in week out? '

I'm pleased all the Jose stalwarts are starting to turn, just as they did with LVG around this time in his second season. Jose is no good for Utd, make a change early so a new manager gets some prep work in before the World Cup.

The Beast

{Ed025's Note - im with you beast..


1.) 14 Mar 2018 17:24:28
Beast - Do you honestly believe that we'd be better off without Jose?

Who do you believe that's available that could take us to the next level?

Whilst we remain in the top 4 there is absolutely no chance his job is at risk in my opinion despite the quality of football on offer.


2.) 14 Mar 2018 17:28:01
I agree beast. I was a Jose stalwart but last night changed it for me. It was unacceptable and there is no signs that if we add more players that the style will improve. This was our biggest game in years yet we went out with the most pathetic whimpering performance. In an ideal world I would want Jose to succeed and see out his contract. But I don’t think he can turn it around for us. It would be a waste to back him with millions again if this is the sort of rubbish that is going to be served up for the fans.


3.) 14 Mar 2018 17:30:49
After his comments he said it isn't my fault it's Manchester United's.
He just doesn't fit as United manager on and off the field.

{Ed025's Note - very true leahy mate..


4.) 14 Mar 2018 17:34:30
I maintain that three seasons is a reasonable amount of time to give someone of his calibre without calling for their head. However when a performance that poor, that uncommitted and that spiritless comes along and is followed by defeatist comments from the manager, It becomes almost impossible to do anything but doubt. It is not impossible he can turn things round in one more year considering his track record, however I am no longer even vaguely optimistic of that.

I didn’t want him because of his personality in the first place but chopping and changing manager all the time is small-time shortsighted and counter-productive. That performance was so bad however but it’s entirely possible in this case that it just may be needed.


5.) 14 Mar 2018 17:43:26
I wanted mourinho a long time ago, but have been disappointed and calling for his head for around 6 months now.
He simply is not a good fit for United. His post match comments were ridiculous in the extreme and showed a lack of understanding and respect towards the club.
As for replacements, Poch or Enrique will have this team playing incredible football. Dare I say even Giggs/ Scholes might prove better once Giggs has had a few years experience.
My worry is that we've bought two world class players in Pogba and Sanchez and they're looking anything but world class due to his team selections and tactics.
Pep has managed to get a lot of expensive individuals playing as a team in 12 months. Mourinho has got a lot of quality players but they're not playing as a team. Thatsa sign of a crap manager.


6.) 14 Mar 2018 17:38:00
We need an attack minded coach with fresh ideas - Jardim, been saying it for ages. We have tried the supposed world class experience with LVG and Jose, almost every manager becomes more defensive the older they get, just like normal people as you get older you tend to take less chances and are reluctant to try new things if old faithful is available. You know what works for you and you stick to it, tends not to work out in football as budding experts learn from the masters and eventually eclipse them.

Fans need to demand better, the board need to be held to account. Why the hell was his contract extended coming out of a truly awful run during the winter period?

Everything is desperate about our club at the moment, those that call for calm and giving the benefit of the doubt do not help matters imo.


7.) 14 Mar 2018 17:48:45
Jose attacks far more in the press conferences.


8.) 14 Mar 2018 17:52:55
Beast, in some cases calm and benefit of the doubt are exactly what’s needed. And in others it’s sleep walking into disaster. It’s sometimes hard to know which occasion is which. Like with Fergie, time worked. With Jose, it may not. Problem is we can’t ever know in a culture of chopping and changing and quick fix demanding whether the calm approach would have worked.

But as I say, last night was awful (as have many many performances been this season) so I absolutely can see why some would want rid.


9.) 14 Mar 2018 17:56:59
It’s time we went with someone forward thinking and fearless with their tactics. Someone whose first instinct is to attack and entertain, not wait for an opponent to make a mistake or to hold off. It’s time for the board and the club to start acting like a football club and to care about what is going on the pitch and not about the £££s in our bank account. I fear that as long as we have top 4 and win the odd cup, then the board won’t be forced into changing the manager.

Get in a Tuchel, Poch or jardim or someone of that ilk. Bring in someone who will grow with us and implement their own identity on our club, whilst also respecting and understanding the tradition and style that we as united fans demand.

AAA you are right. Jose disrespected the club yesterday and clearly he does not understand or respect the traditions of the club. I was shocked at what he said and if felt as if he was trying to provoke a reaction from the board. I don’t want someone at the club who does not buy into the history of our club, or who can openly disrespect the fans like Jose did yesterday.


10.) 14 Mar 2018 18:08:47
Agree beast. Anybody is attainable except Guardiola. I’d rather Nicky Butt be in charge. All most of us want entertaining attacking football.


11.) 14 Mar 2018 18:09:51
I would probably be leaning towards the calm, give him another season, side of this debate. But those post match comments were more offensive than the pathetic effort shown on the pitch. If he'd had come out angry, complaining, shouting or even upset, I'd have written the whole experience off, said he needs time, and not been left so angry.

I'm genuinely astonished that he'd come out with those comments and surprised I haven't seen more shock in the media.


12.) 14 Mar 2018 18:17:07
I also think we are punching above our weight in the league, it's only hear say but would we be in the top 4 if it wasn't for ddg.


13.) 14 Mar 2018 21:38:16
Leahy
Where would spurs be with out Kane, Barcelona Messi etc.


14.) 14 Mar 2018 21:36:31
12, that's a different attitude to what you bring to our site. I have your card marked. Lol.


15.) 14 Mar 2018 22:11:21
Good point jr3e. Steve say nothing.


 

 

14 Mar 2018 00:01:43
Prep and recovery from Liverpool game was clearly poor. We looked unfit and unprepared.

People enjoying Jose's banter wih De Boer saying it's great prep for the Sevilla game 'back to his old self', well that attitude was on display. Over confidence, talk is cheap!

We stifled Liverpool well, but it is a gamble of a tactic and against what Utd stands for. Today it was found out, almost found out against Palace a week earlier as well.

Progress?!

The Beast

1.) 14 Mar 2018 00:22:45
Beast - apart from the real die hard José lovers I think most supporters are realistic to know that any result is likely with us.
Yes we stifled Liverpool but it was sound tactics which highlited their shortcomings, albeit I agree that's not how most people want to see us play.
Onto tonight and the 'other' Utd turned up, making Sevilla look a team to be feared and the predictable result happened.
I have watched plenty of games this year where it looks like we are facing Barcelona not Huddersfield or Stoke etc and I really don't know where the blame lies. The tactics are Jose's but the performance / effort is down to the players.
Would the current crop of players play better under another manager, I don't know but both Sanchez and Pogba couldn't play any worse.


 

 

05 Mar 2018 23:07:42
For me the performance was truly shocking from start to finish, but there is something to be very hopeful about.

If we can play that badly and score 3 goals (even against a severely depleted Palace) then there is no reason when we play better we can't become a goal machine. Hopefully the protective puppy fat has been shed now and the true Utd animal will be released.

This could be the most important 90mins in many a year for us, purely because it showed Jose that his negative tactics are redundant. If we can have the attacking intent from the get-go as if we are 2-0 down then we will be a very hard team to beat. After the 2nd Palace goal his game plan was torn up and it was just do whatever you can to score lads, something an armchair fan can instruct.

I truly hope that Jose dispenses with the 3 sitting midfielders now, allows the players to attack in numbers and with that the confidence will come. We lack any plan going forward as a team because we rarely attack as a team, no patterns to our play minimal chances created, but we have class individuals, who will improve as a team if given the opportunity. So this lesson could be a real blessing worth far more than a grindy 3 points against relegation fodder.

This could be the match that finally proves to Jose that he is managing Man Utd and we can outscore anybody - just stop with the defensive focus!

The Beast

1.) 05 Mar 2018 23:16:31
Good post beast can’t argue with any of that. Jose was forced to take the shackles off and low and behold we score 3 goals. The spirit can not be underestimated so to come back from behind twice in the last 2 games shows we have the ability to dig deep and grind out victories. But I don’t want us to always be grinding out victories. If we take the game to teams, with the attacking talent at our disposal, we will beat teams convincingly. This weekend against Liverpool we need to attack Liverpool and not allow them to press us. I would start mata and Carrick so that we can ensure our ball retention is good and dictate the tempo of the game.


2.) 05 Mar 2018 23:20:37
Shocking from start to finish. We won 2-3. But "from start to finish" we were shocking. Again, hyperbole will kill us all.


3.) 05 Mar 2018 23:54:54
Good post that Beast we need to be a bit more ruthless but the main issue is team coordination we are playing as individuals rather then as a team.


4.) 06 Mar 2018 07:26:35
We always look flat when we play 3 in the middle, never get enough support to the front 3.


5.) 06 Mar 2018 08:42:07
I don't agree with your sentiments beast. It's easy in a big comfy chair (although based on your comments I'd think your sitting on thorns named Jose) to preach attack, but when you are in the hot seat, things change.

So sit back and enjoy the victory lads.


6.) 06 Mar 2018 08:44:45
Beast, I basically agree, but worry about further exposure of our decidedly dodgy defence to further counter attacks. We only look good re goals conceded because of a world class goalkepper in DDG.
Fix the defence then I am with you 100%.


 

 

04 Mar 2018 17:31:01
Almost every game I watch nowadays is attack vs defence. No space and one team just relying on the counter attack as their game plan.

Reminds me of Seria A in the 90's. Even matches involving two top teams is the same - the Premier League is losing it's luster.

The Beast

1.) 04 Mar 2018 18:04:49
Chelsea didn't even counter attack. It was just utter dross.


2.) 04 Mar 2018 18:06:59
I think it’s time you stop watching Beast, you don’t enjoy it, you don’t even enjoy your own team, just take up a different hobby.

Not being an arse, genuinely think why put yourself through something you hate, nobody forces you and all you do is complain.


3.) 04 Mar 2018 18:18:24
Come on Beast that was the great city team. You know chelsea were there for the taking and if it were city they would have scored 20. No wait. the great pep couldnt.

Anyway, ypu have way too much spare time mate. You watch all the games? And then just crib. Your life makes me sad.


4.) 04 Mar 2018 18:20:16
Bro, do you even like football? The premiere league is becoming more tactical, which is part of the intrigue.

Things change and the premiere league is getting stronger. Because of this teams can't just have a go and attack constently or they'll get turned over. The only team who hasn't clocked on to this is Arsenal and that's going great at the moment.


5.) 04 Mar 2018 18:26:56
Don't transfer your frustration on to me boys, are you saying that most games are not like the dross we just witnessed - did you enjoy that spectacle between last years Champions and this year's Champions?

Pointing out how pathetic it is will lead to change, clinging to denial will mean we get more of the same. Standards need to improve, you need to hold these moneygrabbers to account and stop the rot. Football is losing it's appeal for lots of people, maybe the kids still love what they are seeing because they are indoctrinated to think absolutely anything is progress!


6.) 04 Mar 2018 18:29:49
Agree with gds, beast you should start watching nfl (if you're not already) have found it more interesting than football recently.


7.) 04 Mar 2018 18:43:57
DSG cheers - I'm definitely going to give other sports a go now. Might try Rugby League, heard good things. Football is almost like WWE now, just hype and antics with very little realism going on. It's when money corrupts and accountability is passed on, with sycophants helping muddy the water.


8.) 04 Mar 2018 19:15:34
That game was terrible, City just fouled as soon as Chelsea had a rate wander out of their half. Chelsea was an embarrassment, José can be defensive but at least there is a plan or counter attack or plan B, a long throw in or boot up towards hazard, come on, Chelsea chucked that game and City was just taking it easy or fouling, Zichenko should’ve had a red, and Pep moans about tackles on his team, they are the worst for it.


9.) 04 Mar 2018 19:36:52
Boys Chelsea were bad. It want a good game to watch.
Beast said what he saw, what's wrong with that.
Anyway our game is a must win against the mighty Crystal palace.


10.) 04 Mar 2018 20:04:29
Rugby League won't suit you Beast. There's plenty to moan about in the game. But the fans just get on with it because they love the game and the community around it. Crown green bowls might be more up your street.


11.) 04 Mar 2018 20:55:04
Chelsea the latest team from England to wave the white flag and follow the manual being passed round about how to play city that duznt actually work . Having a go has no guarantee there a good team but this everyone bk and lose with a whimper is dross .


12.) 04 Mar 2018 21:19:54
I bet in 'crown green bowls' men are still men, and they play to win!


13.) 04 Mar 2018 21:45:02
I don't get it coaches being paid multiple millions then given tens of millions to spend, to come up with a game plan of everybody back and we will lose but atleast we won't get hammered . How else are we meant to see that . How exactly is beast wrong it was attack v blanket defense did people not just watch that .


14.) 04 Mar 2018 22:13:49
I watch rugby league as well, it’s possible to enjoy both, season ticket holder for both as well, great times.


15.) 04 Mar 2018 22:26:38
Agree wholeheartedly beast. The game is boring these days. We've seen some some good games this season, but mostly average or below average games.
As Slate says, teams need to change their attitude when they play The. The only times City have lost is when teams have had a go at them. Liverpool and Wigan managed it.
Unfortunately, our own manager took the coward's way when we played them and lost.
They are a fantastic side but if you go on the field and give them too much respect, then you've lost before you start.


16.) 05 Mar 2018 06:24:12
Which club GDS, I also like a bot or RL, get to a few games each season.


17.) 05 Mar 2018 06:33:53
Nice one Beast, that made me laugh. Get out to your nearest Rugby League ground, have a couple of pints and a pie. The rivalries and banter are brilliant and the game is as well.


18.) 05 Mar 2018 09:48:19
I think we have discussed this before AJH, the same one as you I believe. Now the wire.


19.) 05 Mar 2018 14:17:10
The Wire are mine too. So hopefully we can all enjoy watching them.


 

 

 

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If it were a Seagull you were talking to I'd have a bit more confidence mate.

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24 Mar 2018 16:58:44
I was one of those thinking he wasn't going to be up to it and would be sold, at times I feel foolish, but then he can be anonymous far too often for me (like most of our attacking players) .

I still think in order for us to be competing at the very top we need better than Lingard. But if he improves again as much as he has over the past 18 months then he will deserve a regular berth in a top Utd team.

I love his energy and clever runs, maybe there is even more to come from him once we get back to playing proper attacking football and those runs will be picked out by players that currently refuse the pass and opt for 'safety' instead. I certainly would like him to impact games more consistently as well, 10 seconds of brilliance now and again is good, but we need more than that over a 90 minute match from an attacking midfielder.

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22 Mar 2018 16:53:19
Park - it was a poor joke based on what was one of the most remarkable things witnessed during a game. World Cup Final 2006, Zidane 'Head Butting' Materazzi in the chest.

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21 Mar 2018 22:42:31
At least Zidane won't be afraid to 'butt heads' with the big boys in the team. A few ego's need reining in imo.

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20 Mar 2018 17:56:26
Cheers Ed.

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19 Apr 2018 17:53:07
I don't think anybody could have suspected Sanchez would be this bad. Sanchez is a better player than Willian - most of our top players have been very hit and miss for years I put very little stock in what Jose does with them, we lack consistency everywhere so Willian may have been better but so could Mick the Plumber from the Horse and Jockey - there is a pattern with creative attacking players and our club under these negative managers we seem to hire.

99% of people would pick Sanchez over Willian with all things being equal imo mate - but I think we could have Messi playing for us and he would look rank average most games.

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18 Apr 2018 18:10:08
I believe just constant moaning about how rubbish we were, people like me calling for LVG to be sacked, and general consistent negative comments. Stuff that fans of clubs like Everton and others are doing right now, but our complaints were 10X more appropriate. I also read people connected to the club were not happy as well, which I think carries a million times more weight than 'random aliases' bitching and moaning for good reason online.

Imagine if Woody and Co were at Arsenal instead of Utd, Wenger should be counting his lucky stars.

I have no reason to doubt the long terms plans were in place and they were ruined, I think they forget they run a football club though and our club reeks of weakness, indecision and desperation - so what stock to put in those plans is questionable and why do you have to go through football hell to reach football heaven, it confuses me?!

I'd really love to see what sponsors, broadcasters etc were saying to the club behind closed doors under LVG - that will not have been helpful either I imagine and again will have been a lot more toxic to the club as it hurts their bottom line rather than just 'feelings'. Truth is vorboten it seems in this day and age if it is anything other than positivity!

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18 Apr 2018 16:54:48
Poch would be very good for us imo. I don't understand the argument saying he hasn't won anything so isn't right for the club. We have a current manager and our previous manager that have won the lot, but they clearly aren't fit for purpose imo. If anybody seriously expects Spurs to be winning the league or CL in order to rate Poch then I think they are not being realistic in their judging criteria. Only one team can win both competitions and Spurs winning either would be a major coup when you factor in the opponents they face and resources.

It's the same thing as when people sometimes say 'George Best was not the best because he never won a World Cup', or likewise with Messi now. It has very little to do with how capable they are whether the team wins things, it's the resources and tools at their disposal both as a player and manager that has to be factored in surely - not to mention the scenarios they are in!

Spurs look the best they have in my life time and I'd believe Poch is overachieving - Utd and Jose on the other hand.

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17 Apr 2018 20:35:12
I'm glad their plans were scuppered because every decision they seem to make is the wrong one. If they were so sure of their plans they would have put up with a bit of legitimate bashing from supporters.

Furthermore, maybe informing the fans of their long term plans might have helped if their claims are truthful. We may have shown a little more patience if we were so 'important' to the decision making process. I think it's BS though, convenient excuse.

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