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20 Mar 2018 00:19:04
Hi Eds - Just wondering if Utd are still interested in Carlos Soler and if you can shed any light on a potential deal?

The Beast

{Ed002's Note - There is interest but Valencia are not keen to sell.}


1.) 20 Mar 2018 08:01:42
Ed002, awhile back there was reports United was interested in another Valencia player, Jose Gaya. Is there any interest there is was it just click bait?

{Ed002's Note - JM was interested when he was at Chelsea, but I gues MU might add him to the list of LBs they are interested in.}


2.) 20 Mar 2018 17:55:07
Ed002, if you don't mind who is on that list of LB's and will Shaw move on in the summer? Cheers.

{Ed002's Note - Nothing has changed - if Mourinho were to leave maybe Shaw will stay but right now he wants him gone and would like one of the following:
Danny Rose (LB)
Aaron Martin (LB)
Alex Sandro (LB) - I would strike him from the list now but don't be surprised if he reappears - it all depends on a player at another club
Philipp Max (LB)}


3.) 20 Mar 2018 17:56:26
Cheers Ed.


4.) 20 Mar 2018 19:16:36
Cheers Ed.


5.) 20 Mar 2018 19:31:12
I suspect that Philipp Max will end up at Bayern Munich if Alaba leaves. Ironically he looks like a really good left back. Just the kind I would like to see brought in. Young, talented and hungry with loads of potential.


6.) 21 Mar 2018 04:31:26
Ed2 are united looking at sessengon.

{Ed002's Note - there was interest when JM was at another side.}


7.) 21 Mar 2018 12:06:37
Huggy, allegedly Shaw is quite hungry, too :)


 

 

21 Feb 2018 23:45:43
I'm reading a lot of people justifying that pathetic performance. SAF played like this in Europe, Sevilla are tough at home, no easy games at this stage of the competition.

The thing is we play like this whenever we come up against a half decent team. Incidentally Moyes took us away in Europe and we played some great stuff, remember the guy that had no European experience?

Sevilla are not up to much, but we were lucky to escape with a draw tonight however you want to dress it up. They will be very dangerous at OT, far more dangerous than we were tonight.

Maybe it was like this sometimes under SAF, but only "SOMETIMES" with Jose it's every time. If we go out to Sevilla, it's because we didn't play to win tonight.

It would be nice to not read BS excuses to justify this rubbish we are subjected to almost every week. Maybe my drum is getting worn out, but the excuse bank is surely out of coin by now. It's just not good enough, we put up with a rubbish Europa League campaign to qualify for this by the skin of our teeth and then put in these types of performances! WTFP?

The Beast

1.) 21 Feb 2018 23:57:48
How many games did Moyes do us proud in Europe? Was it just the Leverkusen game or . No one is saying Jose is producing exceptional football bit my god the hyperbole in here is ridiculous.


2.) 21 Feb 2018 23:59:13
Goos post Beast and i reckon we houdlve gone for the kill today as i hope but Jose played it safe which is quite sad considering how poor Sevilla were today.

The players look scared to try something exciting ncase it doesn't work and jose gets angry.

They are all under strict rules by the looks of it.


3.) 22 Feb 2018 00:20:46
Made attacking substitutions the team just didn't click going forward.


4.) 22 Feb 2018 01:32:09
Weren't they like for like subs (Rashford/ Martial for Sanchez/ Mata)? It's not clicking because we attack with 3 men maximum, often just 2 - we have forgotten how to attack as a team as it seems our main focus is on keeping teams out, not making them keep us out.

It's anti-Utd and it isn't hyperbole if it happens virtually every time we play a team that isn't prepared to curl up and die.


5.) 22 Feb 2018 10:10:12
Couldn’t agree more beast. Went away yet again not to get beaten rather than trying to take the game to them. Nobody here can tell me man for man Sevilla are a better side than us, so why not attack them, why be happy with a bore draw? Anyone who things a nil nil is a good away score line is mistaken. A score draw not too bad, but a nil nil means we now have to win the return leg. Score draw and we’re out. Pathetic performance once again last night, nothing is inproving.


6.) 22 Feb 2018 11:44:57
Rubbish europa league campaign? You mean the one we won? Oh no we won a trophy but we didn't win it in this specific way that makes me happy. Are you aware of how spoilt you sound. You know this is why fans of other clubs hate us - a huge amount of us have got too used to success. We have to be practical we are still in a rebuilding phase. Yes a lot of money has been spent but the team needed and needs a lot of work. Short termism and harking back to the good old days do not benefit the club.


7.) 22 Feb 2018 12:56:33
Beast, you called it absolutely right. If De Gea hadn't made unbelievable saves, we will be looking at a 2 or 3 nil scoreline. I hate the passionless, clueless displays. I hate the lack of cohesion in the team. This result is not a good result, one goal for Seville and we have to score two. Even if we score first, we will still be extremely nervous.
I would say it is advantage Seville.
But the most ridiculous post i'd the one from 12daysofhemida. "A huge amount of us have got used to success", "We have to be practical we are still in a rebuilding phase", "Short termism and harking back to the good old days do not benefit the club". These are exactly the type of comments that drive me potty. How could you get too used to success? So shall we have a few years of rubbish performances as we don't want to be to used to success? Utter tripe. Then he mentions we are still rebuilding, we have been rebuilding for five years. A good business doesn't allow its performance to deteriorate, then start rebuilding. All the top clubs are in a constant state of rebuilding. Harking back to the old times? History is what defines you, and history is what you learn from and improve. So when you talk about harking back to the old times, you're basically telling us that we might as well throw away our history.
If you allow standards to drop and mediocrity to set in, then we might as well pack our bags and go home. That's not the philosophy of the club I've supported for over 50 years. we were built on attacking entertaining football with all the right values. Unfortunately, we are losing these values.


8.) 22 Feb 2018 15:03:38
Attack x3 you'd make a fine spin doctor.

"So shall we have a few years of rubbish performances as we don't want to be to used to success? "

The few years of rubbish performances HAPPENED under Moyes and LVG. Alongside that were rubbish results. No one was happy, myself included. Now Jose has improved RESULTS a hell of a lot. The performances (last night included) are still often poor. You cannot expect results and performances to be improved when the squad is substandard for a title tilt. Jose is improving us.

"we have been rebuilding for five years. "

Yes, that's just how bad we got.

"A good business doesn't allow its performance to deteriorate, then start rebuilding. "

I agree, but that is exactly what the club allowed to happen. Expecting five years of stagnation to be corrected in two years is unrealistic.

"History is what defines you, and history is what you learn from and improve. "

Once again we agree. history has shown us that sticking by a manager when we fans are calling for his head can be beneficial. Can you imagine what would have happened if the fans had been listened to with Fergie? Also whilst we're talking about history, here's one from Fergie, "Attack wins you games, defence wins you leagues. " I think that is what Mourinho is trying to do.

"So when you talk about harking back to the old times, you're basically telling us that we might as well throw away our history. "

Er. no. Just no. I can't even think of a witty, relevant or scathing retort to that. Sorry.

"If you allow standards to drop and mediocrity to set in, then we might as well pack our bags and go home. That's not the philosophy of the club I've supported for over 50 years. we were built on attacking entertaining football with all the right values. Unfortunately, we are losing these values. "

Let me see if I can do your putting words in other people's mouth shtick. so if we don't play well and win you we should all stop supporting Utd? Utter tripe, piddle and tomfoolery.

We weren't built on attacking entertaining football it's a philosophy we have played more often than not since the days of Busby. A style of play that I love and miss, but since Ferguson left that philosophy has been left behind, through poor appointments, mismanagement and NOW necessity. Our defence isn't up to task and so we need to play more defensively.

Whilst having a nosy around the internet, I found this description of Newton Heath in their first season. "Tough, diligent men who formed a powerful side. " Sounds a lot like a Mourinho side. Maybe we were built on stoic defending first, entertaining football second (like all good teams) .


9.) 22 Feb 2018 18:22:17
Great post 12 days.
Beast the performances are poor but its the players not the manager.
How many top class players in our squad?
Not even top class on the european stage top class in epl. Jose performing minor miricle to keep them competitive imo.


10.) 22 Feb 2018 20:34:16
Great posts 12 days. As good as I've ever seen on here to be honest. Great way of debating.


11.) 22 Feb 2018 22:10:35
Oh come on now, it's ridiculous. People are still plugging their same view week in week out.

The fact is, there are some very good and some not so good players in the squad. It's the same for the rest of the top 6 or so teams. It's the manager's job to get the best out of them.

If your idea of getting the best of them is by holding the better players back to set up defensively and grind out results, then we'll agree that Mourinho is doing well. If your idea of an attacking, exciting and progressive style of football is the way forward, then he's not the right man.


 

 

13 Jan 2017 19:14:26
Hopefully this Costa incident is the trigger for the much needed Chelsea collapse. Win on Sunday and everyone will be scared that we are coming for them.

The Beast

{Ed025's Note - my fear beast is that they may make a move for lukaku now, he would jump at the chance imo mate..


1.) 13 Jan 2017 20:52:24
We, I really don't rate Lukaku, I know he can sometimes bully CBs and score dramatic goals but generally he looks like a fat lump blundering around. Just my view of course.

{Ed025's Note - thats very nasty and short sighted of you AJH...but very true.. :)


2.) 13 Jan 2017 22:07:38
He's like that heavily made up blonde on a night out who looks very tasty until you get her into the light, beer googles at their most seductive.


3.) 13 Jan 2017 22:10:18
😂😂😂


4.) 14 Jan 2017 03:46:48
If costa is sold or even just has a falling out with conte, we really need to beat liverpool, as i was hoping and i think most utd fans will agree, if we aren't able to win the league it is better if chelsea do it rather than one of city or liverpool.


5.) 14 Jan 2017 11:16:54
Lukaku is perfect for Chelsea's system but he's no Diego Costa. I can't see them letting him go this January though although a summer deal makes sense.


6.) 14 Jan 2017 12:13:23
I know Costa is expensive but £80 million for a coffee is just ridiculous.


7.) 14 Jan 2017 14:26:04
I'm not sure about timing but I read that the Chinese are going to be clamping down big time on the money being spent by their clubs, as a means of capital controls (just doing it with Bitcoin now) . So maybe there is a major timing factor involved, possibly a one time opportunity for the start of their new season.

Possibly why the amounts in question seem so desperate and why Costa is trying to force a move now. Just speculating of course.


8.) 14 Jan 2017 19:56:59
Costa isn't trying to force his way out.


9.) 15 Jan 2017 01:30:24
i hope costa stays where he is (and stops scoring) because if he leaves they might bid for moussa dembele of celtic.


10.) 15 Jan 2017 13:36:29
hmm Jackson, who knows what to believe. Quite a coincidence we were only talking of something like this the other day. That said you still smashed Leicester and have a £30m striker rotting on the bench, so still need a few more spanners in the works to give us a sniff.


11.) 16 Jan 2017 19:38:40
Hope he stays. He's saved my dream team this season.


 

 

01 Jul 2016 17:29:56
I just read that Neymar signs a 5 year deal, but his buyout clause rises the further he gets into his contract, this seems odd to me is it odd?

It's almost as if they are telling clubs to come and get him now if they are interested.

Does anybody know what his buyout was prior to the new contract? It's now £167m for the first year, rising to 186m 2nd year and then £209 for the third), on the Beeb.

The Beast

1.) 01 Jul 2016 18:07:30
Not sure but this deal is pretty sensible from barca, with teams like palace throwing £30m at Marseille for that Belgian lad who knows how much players will be going for in 5 years, it's gone even more ridiculous this year.


2.) 01 Jul 2016 18:08:46
Beast I don't know enough about buy out clauses but it makes great sense for the owners as under normal circumstances the players value decreases as his contact runs down. It also means that they will be in no rush to Renew and give him another rise in order to uphold his value.


3.) 01 Jul 2016 19:34:13
Great points guys, hadn't even considered that in my haste.


 

 

10 Jul 2015 16:38:30
Hi Ed's - I am a regular contributor to the site as you may know. Several people ask about a fantasy football league each year and I have been part of one for the past 4/5 years, I can vouch for the credibility of it. I didn't want to post on the website without your permission first, this is what I want to post, do you mind?

"I am part of a dream team league, ran by a chap called Andy. I have done this for the past 4+years and it works a treat. You pay £50 upfront and each month there is a prize for manager of the month, the remaining money goes into a pot for the top 3 managers of the year - all registration fees are redistributed to winning managers. I have personally won a few managers of the month and have been paid appropriately. This is just a group of guys coming together and nothing formal/company orchestrated, so if you want to join the league the code is 90970-25762 (it is the Fantasy Premier League). Andy will provide you with his acct details if you join and over recent seasons we have had over 50 people in the league – it was primarily a group of friends but I have asked him if he would mind me opening it up to my “banter buddies” and he has no problem so long as it causes him no issues"

The Beast

{Ed002's Note - Sure, no problem.}


1.) 10 Jul 2015 17:24:08
Super Beast, Might join you on that .


2.) 10 Jul 2015 19:35:39
Now I'm confused yesterday someone was going to setup a FF competition for the lads all here at no cost, I think that £50 is a tad steep especially when in euros it's 70 or more for your one Beast.

Now I'm not a tight git but I try play the FF gig and more times than not forget to change players etc, as I get caught up in stuff at home or within family homes doing repairs etc so miss a lot of the tactical changes lol!!

If we were to set up a MUFC page FF competition and at a cost of €20/25 I would enter it no problem


3.) 10 Jul 2015 20:02:09
Pyramid Scheme!


4.) 10 Jul 2015 23:10:25
We had one for free last season, not sure who set it up but we had over 70 people in it from this website.

The one I am talking about has cash aspects attached so obviously won't be for everyone. I throw in £50 with this guys league because if you win a manager of the month its normally £80-£100, then £1k or so to overall winner.

Horses for courses, I just put it out there as some people were asking and I have always been paid on time.


 

 

 

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08 Nov 2018 08:45:26
I fancied us yesterday, put a little bit of dough on us as well so it was nice to win on both counts.

Thought we were too negative at times and we were lucky to be honest. Juventus were unusually wasteful in front of goal. Been watching a lot of Juve this season and they have been winning but not looking as good as the table suggests - however it had a David vs Goliath feel about it which is absolutely ridiculous when you take a step back.

Herrera was very good. I don't like Young playing as everything is delayed, Pogba gave it away more than he kept the ball. I thought Sanchez worked hard and looked a lot sharper. Obviously it's hard to take the game to Juventus away and we snuck it yesterday. Jose is getting a nice run of luck at the moment and you make your own luck I suppose, we were unlucky to drop 2 points to Chelsea as well so swings-roundabouts.

Hopefully we start the game on the front foot this Sunday and don't give City as many opportunities as I fear they will put us out of sight if we aren't better defensively.

Great result, hopefully we can have a bit of a mini-clear out this winter and bring in 1-2 quality players. The wholesale changes in the summer as too many of our players will never be good enough for the very top.

The Beast

1.) 08 Nov 2018 09:37:28
Beast,
Was the purpose of this post to tell us you won money? I see no other point to it? At least Pogba attempts to make the killer pass, or the pass that makes the difference. You contradict yourself too much here, I honestly don't know whether your pleased or gutted.


2.) 08 Nov 2018 09:39:18
You must be a very lucky gambler Beast. Despite your extreme negativity towards United, you are still committed enough to place money on us to win. Furthermore, every time you bet on us we seem to win! At least you get some enjoyment from United.

Keep up the good work mate :)


3.) 08 Nov 2018 12:55:33
Careful Beast. You're in danger of sounding a bit positive there and that's not the Beast we've all come to know and love.

In fairness, just lately we've looked like the United of old ie., You can score against us but we'll score more.

Long may it last.


4.) 08 Nov 2018 13:18:27
Beast your a gas man.
A clearout?
A month ago you said that you would not interview a manager that wanted to talk about squad changes and investment.
Whats changed your mind on that?

In terms of recent cl performances last 5 years it was david v ggollaith. We havnt been qualifing and they have been in finals so on current recent form we were massive underdogs reflected in the odds toy recieved i'm sure for a 2 horse race.
Perhaps not so much in total history but in last 5 years i think it was a shock result. They don't lose often there i tjink that is there 1st cl defeat there.


5.) 08 Nov 2018 13:41:19
King Giggsy - partly about me expecting us to win and not buying into the David Goliath BS to justify defeat if it occurred. Also my views on several players performance - did you miss that part?

Betty - When the odds are that good you have to take the punt, although I have lost as much as I have won betting on Utd this season. I won't be betting on us this weekend though.

TopBomin - Yeah there are some good signs, Jose did well last night - game was perfect for vintage Jose where we were 'allowed' to camp and break. Same again against City, but it's the mid-level and below teams where this is horrible to watch and shouldn't be tolerated. It shouldn't really be tolerated now, but we are where we are.


6.) 08 Nov 2018 14:41:05
Great result last night. However, were you lot watching the game? Juve should have been out of sight. We were LUCKY!
Shades of the 1999 final.
We are no where near as good a team as Juve. Or City come to that. Let's hope for more luck on Sunday!


7.) 08 Nov 2018 14:50:04
Ken - The manager still needs to go, he is not getting the most from his players, but people like Matic, Lukaku, Young, Pogba, Smalling, Mata - do not champions make.

It doesn't have to be one or the other, there are grey zones.

Juventus had Khadeira, two old knackers at the back, Betancur, Cuadrado, Sczezny in goal. The only genuine class in that team was Ronaldo, Dybala, Pjanic, Sandro.

We need a clear-out top to bottom. Half measures are what got us into this position. No point allowing Jose to buy the new team because he is no longer suitable for that role and his signings are all over the place. New manager, new ideas, new identity required.

However a new manager should come in and say he can turn this bunch into contenders, then I'd back him. We should be doing much better than we are with the team we have, despite them not being brilliant in most cases. You can;t have a team of superstars but our superstars are seriously underperforming (aside from DDG and Martial recently) .


8.) 08 Nov 2018 17:10:10
Beast young smalling matic mata and pogba have all been champions for the record. Smalling and young were not playing much i grant you that but they have the medals.
But i do agree with you. We need a huge clear out but i'm just wondering why you said you would throw a candidate out of an interview if he said he needed new players. Mayberry its so obvious we need some. Maybe you were just ranting that day we are all guilty from time to time.

Also if you think the squad is so poor and i agree why do you blame so much on the manager? Imo no other manager would have got us 2nd last season

Do you think any other manager would have got this squad to 2nd behind city last season?


9.) 08 Nov 2018 18:06:19
Ken - I knew you would go there. But they were not the key to any team, they were periphery players for their title winning teams in the main. They are all good players, but not suitable for a Man Utd I'd like to see personally.

The teams they won the league with had world class (reliably world class) around them. Our best players are not performing anywhere near their maximum and that is the manager job, that is why he needs to go (amongst other reasons) .

We have too many decent but not great players for sure, but we should be playing better. I have been ranting and do go off on one occasionally, hard to get it down properly so I'll hold my hands up mate.

2nd means nothing really, it was a poor campaign despite finishing 2nd, football was appalling and it has been for most of this season. We do not look like champions, after 2.5 years in charge I'd expect us to be on the right track, not looking just as disjointed as his first season with Liverpool, City and Chelsea (after a few months under Sarri) looking far more formidable.

If you are asking me if Jose is the 2nd best manager in the world, I say no, he is not in the top 10, maybe 20 anymore. He was great, but now he is a spent force. So I think many other managers would have us do just as well and probably better last season, but I don't think anybody would have caught City last year - we just could have looked a lot better going for it under somebody that plays the game the right way and isn't such a problem off the pitch.


10.) 08 Nov 2018 19:46:02
Beast mate i think he will leave in the summer no matter what happens i agree with some of your thoughts but not many.
But i posted above i think he now has control of his dressing room. Players are responding and the increased effort is obvious. Big egos have been dropped until they put in the required effort.
But also the board have regained control over jose and the change in him is obvious too.
He is being more tolerant with the players because they are giving him more and as a result their form and attitudes are showing definite improvement.
Jose is far from finished. I think he may well end up in madrid next season just a feeling i have.
We are woefully short of top quality still in 3 or 4 positions.
Were we right not to buy aging players at inflated money. Yes imo.
I want to see a united effort from the coach players fans and board alike until the end of the season. This will be a really tight fight for the top 2nd to 4th, i think city will run away with it in the end. Its essential tjat we secure top 4 Then if jose goes and we get a new coach we can build from a more solid base.


11.) 09 Nov 2018 05:21:03
Beast, please put in those 20 names above Mourinho here for all of our knowledge. We would surely be enlightened and i am sure the United board would consider your list for better recruitment next. Kindly share the list.


 

 

07 Oct 2018 08:28:41
Well that second half was a nice turn up for the books.

Obviously the first half went pretty much how most games have gone this season, Newcastle were just pretty clinical and still missed a few. We just drift through matches like a lost soul.

Our plan second half was to attack and although it was all 'off the cuff' as the commentator said, it was still enough to come back and beat a demoralised Newcastle. It makes me wonder how good we could really be if the manager just said 'go and beat them' and stopped focusing on trying to out-think the opposition when we are far superior.

I think with poor teams like Newcastle the manager should rely on our natural quality and stop with the 'tactics'. Against top class opposition maybe Jose is suited, but 90% of our games are against teams we should beat. So maybe give him a break those weeks and let the lads plays without his shackles and bizarre decision making. Bring him back for the big dogs?!

Maybe Sanchez was his 'Robins moment', but I am very interested to see how we start the next game. For all the plaudits Jose is taking for the turnaround, he has to be held accountable for the fiasco of that first half - what was going on in a routine home tie against relegation fodder?!

LVG had a few of these false dawns that kept him in the role for another few weeks to our ultimate misfortune. Hopefully Jose does change his spots and learn from this, but that is hope rather than expectation.

Glad to see some heart, some edge of the seat drama and a quality fightback, life in the old squad yet. If Jose isn't removed, then please let this be this spark that changes everything, brings everyone together and we approach each game like we are 2-0 down against one of the worst teams in the league at home.

The Beast

1.) 07 Oct 2018 09:18:09
The problem is that the next game is Chelsea away which we are likely to lose anyway, if we go there and try and attack we will get hammered so I guess it depends what people want.

I have a feeling this might not be a turning point but he must be given the chance to show that it is now and prove that the players are behind him, imagine we go and win at Chelsea, who knows what the season holds then.


2.) 07 Oct 2018 11:13:01
I don’t mind losing as long as we go down fighting. Have a go, take the game to them. Not going to happen is it?


 

 

29 Sep 2018 12:33:27
Nice to see the manager putting out a team that indicates 'we fear you' again. What a joke, have we ever had a slower midfield. Just surprised he didn't put Mata in for Martial to really inject some pace!

The Beast

1.) 29 Sep 2018 12:37:24
Going exactly according to plan for Jose. Such a progressive manager.


2.) 29 Sep 2018 12:41:26
It's a disgrace people are backing this tool because Pogba complained about negative football and the need to attack.


3.) 29 Sep 2018 12:43:58
Same old rubbish for 3rd consecutive season. Why he’s still in the job I’ll never know. Also people make out the squad is brilliant but under acheiving, there’s not many players in this squad the good sides would come in for.


4.) 29 Sep 2018 12:44:02
And now they have scored. West Ham dominating completely as we expected. What a farce we have become.

Saw the team and West Ham were 3/ 1, so put £25 on them, couldn't resist, I've gone from backing us every game irrespective to now thinking the opposition will win. Horrible.


5.) 29 Sep 2018 12:59:51
It’s phill Jones’ fault.


6.) 29 Sep 2018 13:19:27
This is genuinely embarrassing. No movement, no ideas, Fellaini playing as our furthest forward mid. Martial wasted in the middle when he could be roasting Zab on the wing. This is the end for Jose, players have no confidence in his approach and it’s showing. The only question left today is who Jose will choose to blame for it.


7.) 29 Sep 2018 13:19:55
He has to go now. It really seems like this is the end. He has to go. But someone should also have the players in and tell certain of them that their time at the club is also over as they're displays have been unacceptable.


8.) 29 Sep 2018 14:34:56
He alienates most of his players and the results suffer, a common theme under the especially challenged one in his last few jobs, why are people surprised?


9.) 29 Sep 2018 14:36:50
Regardless of manager, tactics, team selection, this is a very average squad of players. Only de gea would have got into past united teams. Unbelievable considering the obscene amounts some of them have cost. Hope some of you younger fans don't have to endure the 27 years us older ones did but at this moment there doesn't seem to be any sort of plan or direction. Things can only get better ( although they might have to get worse first)


10.) 29 Sep 2018 16:11:36
This is a better squad than the last United team to win the league title.


11.) 29 Sep 2018 16:29:11
Well this time the ref is to blame.


 

 

25 Sep 2018 21:05:17
Half time. I thought we were playing a Championship team at home, but we seem to be playing Man City or a team of that ilk!

We score a fantastic team goal. But we are now officially a counter-attacking team, Derby look more Utd than we do. I just don't get it. We are just so happy to let them have the ball, we either attack at speed and look a threat or (most of the time) have pointless confused posession and end up losing it to a far more energetic Derby.

Lukaku missing two sitters again.

Martial playing well. No one really playing awful, but Derby look the better team. Like every team does that comes to Old Trafford. Hope we lift it 2nd half, most of these players have a point to prove and are playing for places.

The Beast

1.) 25 Sep 2018 21:28:35
Could Romero look less bothered about being sent off?

This was coming, truly awful this second half. We have a team of top class Internationals out there.


2.) 25 Sep 2018 21:32:56
My sympathy is with the thousands that travelled there in a week night and watched the game live!


3.) 26 Sep 2018 01:42:12
Exactly, Beast. We still aren't a team.


 

 

02 Sep 2018 16:00:15
I'm glad the manager has learnt he is managing Man Utd, not some underdog. Wait, no he picks Fellaini to combat the aerial threat of Burnley!

What about taking the game to Burnley and making them adapt to us?

He may score and be immense today, but frankly this type of negative, defensive first tactic sums up why he is not right for the club. What a joke, and no wonder the board didn't back him still further than they already have - dropping our big money signing for a guy that couldn't get a deal after hawking himself around the minnows of Europe.

One consolation if we do draw/ lose today will be we are rid of the 'negative one'.

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1.) 02 Sep 2018 17:17:10
Beast mate i'm sure you get the irony of you calling Anybody else 'the negative one'😂😂.


2.) 02 Sep 2018 17:35:54
Does being negative about negative football make you positive?


3.) 02 Sep 2018 17:41:35
How did it work out anyway beast in the end? 😂.


4.) 02 Sep 2018 17:51:03
He did well, but if we had taken the game to them rather than playing with three plodders in midfield it could and should have been 5 or 6-0 today. Goal difference is important, we know better than anybody.

Many a time this negative tactic hasn't worked, but we did enough today.


5.) 02 Sep 2018 18:01:47
Yeah okay beast. Burnley have been beaten 5-0 plenty of times haven't they?


6.) 02 Sep 2018 18:04:11
Fellaini was excellent today, its could have won 7-0 if they took their chances. Burnley couldn't get out precisely because Mourinho played matic and Fellaini in front of smalling and Lindelof. Their out ball to Woods was totally nullified.

The payoff was fullbacks pushed much further forward. Shaw caused problems all game. Can't wait for Dalot to push Tony V out of the team.

The attitude of the whole team was much better. Far more committment of players into their box. We worked hard and deserved to win.

Rom must be more clinical and Pogba more influential for us to mount any type of title challenge.


7.) 02 Sep 2018 18:18:44
Beast, you couldn't even wait until the match was over before you spouted your negative nonsense. I hate to break it to you pal, but Jose has forgotten more about football than you'll ever know.

We were in complete control of that game for 90 minutes. Despite the best efforts of an incredibly poor referee, we went to Turf Moor and dominated, a notoriously difficult place to play. We defended well, the midfield played well, especially Fellaini. We created a lot of chances and on another day that's a 5-0 result.

The away fans were amazing as always. The manager and the players deserve credit for the result today. A lot of pressure from fans and media who would love to see us crash and burn but we coped with that pressure today and that result is just the tonic we needed before the international break.

No need to hit the doomsday whistle just yet.


8.) 02 Sep 2018 18:38:37
Ridiculous to have a pop at Fellaini before the game even starts.

Not a fan of him myself but he played well at the World Cup and gives teams something else to think about.

From the last performance and result it’s not as if you can say that no one could be dropped.

Good solid performance. Hope Rashford is fined and disciplined by the club for his actions as in another match that could of cost us. At 2-0 up players should be ensuring that all the pressure remains on the opposition.

Annoying Pogba had his penalty saved. Don’t like his run up it makes me nervous!


9.) 02 Sep 2018 18:41:19
Good post mumbles and veey good analysis dodgy
Beast how often are burnley badly beaten at turf moor?


10.) 02 Sep 2018 18:46:32
No harm beast but your statement saying if we went for them we’d have won by about 5. Well, lukaku alone probably should have had 5 himself? That was a good solid performance. Unfortunatley marred by rashfords silly reaction.


11.) 02 Sep 2018 18:58:02
Ken I just find this type of post unbearable to read. We all know Beast's views, some I agree with, some I don't. But to slate a player and the manager before the match has even kicked off, in the hope it all goes pear shaped so he could say "I told you so" is so annoying.

If we lose or draw then he is well within hi's rights to have a pop, but to do it before the game quite frankly is disgraceful.


12.) 02 Sep 2018 19:07:38
Funny how Klopp brings in henderson the back passer he is lauded for shoring up the midfield, yet when Fellaini is brought in for us its negative and horrible.

Grow up beast we won 2-0 and couldve been 5 or 6.


13.) 02 Sep 2018 19:13:08
How often have Fulham beat them 4-2 and how many times have Burnley struggled with Europe and Sundays? They aren't the same animal as last year.

We won today comfortably, so it's easy for you all to spout off.

However my point is true, we drop a £60m signing for a defensive player to combat the threat of Burnley - we won, should have won by more. I think we would have won by a lot more had we played more offensive mobile midfielders personally.


14.) 02 Sep 2018 19:14:01
Crikey even when we win comfortably against a decent side away there is moaning. Beast you’ve missed your calling in life and should have been Parisian waiter 😃.


15.) 02 Sep 2018 18:23:15
It’s as simple as this, Fellaini shouldn’t be anywhere near the starting eleven for Manchester United.


16.) 02 Sep 2018 20:07:49
Bilko, bore off.

Fellaini a very good player. If that's the case he shouldn't be anywhere near that Belgian squad either.


17.) 02 Sep 2018 20:09:15
He shouldn't but we won and attacked until the last minute. didn't sit back and hold onto our lead.


18.) 02 Sep 2018 20:25:00
Angel,

Fellaini is a big lump, you think he would have got anywhere near a United team ahead of the likes of Keane and Scholes.?
You think he’d get anywhere near the City or Liverpool first elevens?


19.) 02 Sep 2018 20:25:04
Am I the only one who likes Fellaini.


20.) 02 Sep 2018 21:11:30
No Eric, you're not.

I also think he does a job, consummate professional, played well today against a team that is normally, very physical, made his presence felt, the lad did good today.


21.) 02 Sep 2018 21:11:30
No Eric, you're not.

I also think he does a job, consummate professional, played well today against a team that is normally, very physical, made his presence felt, the lad did good today.


22.) 02 Sep 2018 21:36:14
I like him. Never hid that fact.


23.) 02 Sep 2018 21:44:15
Im not a big fellaini fan he doesn't suit my eye at all.
That said and I've always said he gives 100% the manager likes him and he has certain attributes which woek for jose. He has a great attitude and spirit.
He does a job when called upon and usually does it well.
We might well have won today with fred in the team but we did win with fellaini and he did his job well so credit where its due.


24.) 02 Sep 2018 22:38:27
Bilko is right. Would Fellaini get in the team at any of Europe's top clubs?

The answer is no and you all know it. For all you bigging him up, I challenge you tell me I am wrong.


25.) 02 Sep 2018 22:39:51
I’m not a United fan but just thought I would say, Burnley will finish in the bottom 5 or 6 this year. Already struggling badly with having to cope with European football. I think you may well win your next 4 games as well, you have a nice run of fixtures coming up but still expect you to be scrapping spurs for 4th and 5th at the end of the season.


26.) 02 Sep 2018 22:55:10
Beast. I understand your point completely. We should've put 5 past Burnley. Lesser teams have put plenty past them this season. Its a win, but if we can't beat Burnley comfortably, then God help us. I can't believe the near hysteria over beating a second rate team that is going to get plenty of hammerings this season.
Ps. Any of the optimistics care to tell us how Spurs did against Watford today? No? Thought so.


27.) 02 Sep 2018 23:19:31
Mancman, the simple fact is, we're not one of Europe's top clubs just now, so we take what we can. He's a Belgian international, always gives his best, never seems to feel sorry for himself with all the abuse he gets, and most importantly he gives us another option. I've said before, if a few other players in the team showed the same desire and intensity as Fellaini, we might not be where we are just now. Other teams don't like playing against him. We certainly didn't when he played for Everton.


28.) 02 Sep 2018 23:43:45
United had plenty of midfielders that were in and around that united 'squad' with scholes and Keane. Some of which some would say should not have been around that squad. But they were and very much contributed to the cause.

It's very disrespectful to a footballer as good as fellaini to claim he should be nowhere near the team. You must have a short memory, I'm pretty sure I and others can name at least 5 players that were in and around that time.

You just have a personal dislike for fellaini.

City and Liverpool have many players I wouldn't have had in United's squad. Delph, shaqiri, wijnaldum, Henderson and others.

However they are there and all contribute. Again, very disrespectful to a very good player in fellaini.


29.) 03 Sep 2018 07:56:35
Fellaini does a job and does it well. Remember in the World Cup when Belgium played Brazil he broke every Brazil attack up and had Neymar in his pocket. 😆😆.


30.) 03 Sep 2018 08:48:46
Noucamp, we are not one of Europe's top clubs? Sorry, but I have to take issue with that. I agree that Fellaini shows heart and desire but he simply lacks the necessary quality. Yes, he gets a game for Belgium, but Martinez is hardly a managerial genius.

How depressing that as utd supporters your standards have fallen so far that you believe Fellaini should be playing for Utd.


31.) 03 Sep 2018 10:52:09
Are we playing like one of Europe's top clubs just now? That was my point. You cut your cloth accordingly.


32.) 03 Sep 2018 10:58:41
I don’t have any personal dislike of Fellaini, he does what he does and always gives 100%, he’s just not good enough to be anywhere near the first eleven for a club that’s one of the biggest in world football .


33.) 03 Sep 2018 13:25:22
Noucamp, the reason we are not playing like one of Europe's top clubs is that we have players like Fellaini in the team and a manager that approaches all our games like we are not one of Europe's top clubs. It's all just self fulfilling and the low expectations of supporters who think this is all OK is not helping.


34.) 03 Sep 2018 13:31:06
Fellaini gets stick even when he's played very well. Been happening since lvg days.

Jeeeezus

No he wohldnt get in to a team above keane and scholes, we did however have a few more options than just those 2 even in the glory days AND
God forbid it we even played some of them when keane or scholes couldnt. an he's not here for that.

Hes a UTD player, he comes on to make an impact and it works.


35.) 03 Sep 2018 13:42:44
I'm not going to wish him away. No-one is saying he's a brilliant footballer. He is a good squad player that offers a different option. While he puts on a red shirt and carries on doing what he's doing, he'll get my support. I find he's been a useful scapegoat for the club's ills since he was signed.


36.) 03 Sep 2018 13:57:32
OK then ezrs, tell me that Fellaini would get a game with any of City, Liverpool, Chelsea, Real, Barca, Juve, Bayern, PSG, Athletico or even Napoli, Spurs, Monaco or Dortmund.


37.) 03 Sep 2018 14:11:32
Noucamp, are you saying you like the hoof it up to the big man option Fellaini gives us? Or would you prefer the Fergie option of battering the opposition into submission with self belief and proper football? It's one or the other because the two are incompatible.

I don't personally dislike Fellaini but he represents everything that is currently wrong with Man Utd.


 

 

 

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26 Oct 2018 17:30:29
The owners seem to give the managers free rein, that is one thing I like about them.

Too many people use the inner machinations of the club to explain away our dire performances on the pitch. Jose has players to train, world class players, he is not being told what to do on the pitch or off it (aside from shut up it seems) . So not sure how that is an excuse for what we see every game.

If its not spending money then that is a BS excuse. He has had more than almost any manager ever. Name me a manager that doesn't want more to spend?

I don't like the way the club play nor how Jose carries himself most of the time. He thinks he is bigger than the club and has little regard for his players (most of them) or the fans. We are a laughing stock, we are boring to watch and the owners whilst not ideal certainly could be a lot worse and have frankly backed him enough.

Most clubs carry debt, he has had plenty of funds and wastes it on players he doesn't play.

I said at the time it was a travesty giving this man a new contract as well. There are more heads that need to roll, but Jose's is the first if we want to get back to where we should be any time soon.

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26 Oct 2018 15:25:24
Danny have you seen how much he has spent? What players have kicked on under his guidance?

Jose is looking for excuses, Roman had enough of it and so should our owners. I'm not a fan of the way the club had changed, but ultimately we are not progressing anywhere near as much as we should be under his stewardship - look at what Newcastle, Burnley etc do with a pittance to spend. He has some of the worlds best players and can;t get anything from them, spent hundreds of million and it may as well have been chucked in the bin.

No the buck stops with Jose for me, owners shouldn't be throwing more good money after bad - but they should be decisive, no middle ground here. Either give him MORE money to waste or cut him loose.

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26 Oct 2018 15:21:40
I have a good guess why. Because since signing for Utd his career has gone backwards, he has been messed around, plays well one week dropped the next. See's players playing worse than him picked because of their name and simply has had enough.

He has played the past few games, how about his treatment the past few years?

Yes he has been a passenger quite often, but who hasn't been in an attacking sense (or any sense for that matter)? Martial has it all, apart from a look of desire on his face when he plays and he can be wasteful in possession (more to do with others not being up to it) . But Sanchez played week in week out, Lukaku plays week in week out and have been far inferior overall. Rashford isn't fit to lace his boots but if the manager had to pick between them he would pick Rashford every time.

Martial has been wasted, he is not half the player he could be and if he signs a contract with Jose in charge he is a mug. Shame as I want our best players to stay, but that is why he hasn't signed yet imo.

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09 Oct 2018 14:54:01
Juventus have Szczesny in goal. I appreciate he misses Spain, but that screams out at me.

Ultimately he has been a great player for us, not one of our fans should have any hard feelings if he leaves. He signed for a great club, he now plays for a club I barely recognise.

Wouldn't mind a little swapsy with Athletico for Oblak.

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03 Oct 2018 14:57:28
I've watched a lot of Valencia this season, they looked better against Utd than much of the fodder they have faced in Spain. Awful result.

Good post.

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13 Nov 2018 18:16:07
Not even that quick really, rarely beats a man for pace in a straight race with the ball. Looks like a rabbit in headlights, no end product, soft, anything he has to think about he fluffs. He gives the ball away more than Pogba as well.

Over rated, cash in. It's players like Rashford that exemplify why we are where we are. Love the fact he is Utd born and bred, love that he is young, love how he flew onto the scene. But he hasn't improved in 3 years. He is a non-entity and pops up with a goal now and again like most of our players, Lingard, Mata, Lukaku. All decent players but Europa League level, which is where we are now.

Doesn't play that well for England either, one or two decent games, the rest have passed him by.

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Good post Mike.

The short answer to your question on why we have let it get this bad. Just have a look at the thousands of posts from 6 months into Jose's Utd career until today, where he still has many Utd fans excusing and backing this dross. I knew after a couple of months we hired the Chelsea Manager that got sacked, not the idealist younger fresher version.

If fans that know a bit about footy can't see it through their desperation (possibly more than Woody), then it's not hard to imagine that an incompetent board are happy or swayed to put up with it. Americans tend to be more dreamy than Brits in my experience, SUPER POSITIVE, words seem to count more than actions because it's all about brand. That spreads down and inevitably it's easy to see any slight positive as more than it is. We have turned into a fake club.

We are weak, we lack that ruthlessness that top teams have. We even see it in our players that lack any sort of character on the football pitch. Manager isn't committed and past his best, players don't look capable, the club is losing or has lost what made it great. No passion, just lame excuses and many of our weak fans need to stop accepting this garbage we are served up week in week out.

We have hired 3 defensive managers on the spin, spent hundreds of millions putting square pegs in round holes. We look like a bunch of random individuals playing with no team identity and the manager has to take the blame, closely followed by the incompetent board above him football wise.

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08 Nov 2018 18:06:19
Ken - I knew you would go there. But they were not the key to any team, they were periphery players for their title winning teams in the main. They are all good players, but not suitable for a Man Utd I'd like to see personally.

The teams they won the league with had world class (reliably world class) around them. Our best players are not performing anywhere near their maximum and that is the manager job, that is why he needs to go (amongst other reasons) .

We have too many decent but not great players for sure, but we should be playing better. I have been ranting and do go off on one occasionally, hard to get it down properly so I'll hold my hands up mate.

2nd means nothing really, it was a poor campaign despite finishing 2nd, football was appalling and it has been for most of this season. We do not look like champions, after 2.5 years in charge I'd expect us to be on the right track, not looking just as disjointed as his first season with Liverpool, City and Chelsea (after a few months under Sarri) looking far more formidable.

If you are asking me if Jose is the 2nd best manager in the world, I say no, he is not in the top 10, maybe 20 anymore. He was great, but now he is a spent force. So I think many other managers would have us do just as well and probably better last season, but I don't think anybody would have caught City last year - we just could have looked a lot better going for it under somebody that plays the game the right way and isn't such a problem off the pitch.

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Ken - The manager still needs to go, he is not getting the most from his players, but people like Matic, Lukaku, Young, Pogba, Smalling, Mata - do not champions make.

It doesn't have to be one or the other, there are grey zones.

Juventus had Khadeira, two old knackers at the back, Betancur, Cuadrado, Sczezny in goal. The only genuine class in that team was Ronaldo, Dybala, Pjanic, Sandro.

We need a clear-out top to bottom. Half measures are what got us into this position. No point allowing Jose to buy the new team because he is no longer suitable for that role and his signings are all over the place. New manager, new ideas, new identity required.

However a new manager should come in and say he can turn this bunch into contenders, then I'd back him. We should be doing much better than we are with the team we have, despite them not being brilliant in most cases. You can;t have a team of superstars but our superstars are seriously underperforming (aside from DDG and Martial recently) .

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08 Nov 2018 13:41:19
King Giggsy - partly about me expecting us to win and not buying into the David Goliath BS to justify defeat if it occurred. Also my views on several players performance - did you miss that part?

Betty - When the odds are that good you have to take the punt, although I have lost as much as I have won betting on Utd this season. I won't be betting on us this weekend though.

TopBomin - Yeah there are some good signs, Jose did well last night - game was perfect for vintage Jose where we were 'allowed' to camp and break. Same again against City, but it's the mid-level and below teams where this is horrible to watch and shouldn't be tolerated. It shouldn't really be tolerated now, but we are where we are.

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