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18 Mar 2019 22:19:22
Ed002, are United still interested in Carlos Soler? You mentioned him as a possible target a while back and I've kept a close eye on him since. Looks like he will be some player.

Shappy

{Ed002's Note - No, but there is interest from another EPL side in Carlos Soler.}


1.) 19 Mar 2019 06:32:16
Thanks, that's a shame he looks like he will become a top player.


 

 

26 Jan 2019 08:49:10
Do the Ed's or any fellow posters know anything about the young 17 year old African midfielder Hanson MBopp we have been linked to this morning?

Shappy

1.) 26 Jan 2019 09:15:01
One hit wonder.


2.) 26 Jan 2019 09:21:46
DDG 1, bravo, take the rest of the month off. You win the site. :)


3.) 26 Jan 2019 09:30:05
Shappy you ok lectured us a couple of weeks ago telling and urging us not to read these types of rumours. are you bi-polar 😂😂😂😂.


4.) 26 Jan 2019 10:17:53
DDG1, comment of the month, bravo 👏🏻.


5.) 26 Jan 2019 10:30:30
Saturday morning fishing Shappy?
DDG1 one for the archives that answer is!


6.) 26 Jan 2019 10:46:46
Duwudada doowapp.


7.) 26 Jan 2019 11:53:42
DDG1, I'll have to get up a little earlier if I want to catch you. lol. I was hoping everyone had been out celebrating last night, hoped I'd catch a few. lol.


8.) 26 Jan 2019 12:33:45
We're looking at quote a lot of young players. Hearing a lot of things about young Swiss midfielder Toby Le Rone.


9.) 26 Jan 2019 13:04:21
Mort, I've heard he's quite tasty. Lol.


10.) 26 Jan 2019 13:52:10
Good with triangles too.


11.) 26 Jan 2019 13:53:55
A bit up and down.


12.) 26 Jan 2019 14:17:42
Probably still be better than floppy keita.


13.) 26 Jan 2019 15:15:55
I hear he’s a nougat’y young Midfielder.
Gets stuck in.


14.) 26 Jan 2019 15:54:06
A good run and this site is a joy to visit. Top work boys.


15.) 26 Jan 2019 18:49:05
I wonder what's happened to our cheerful friend Beast.


16.) 26 Jan 2019 23:02:49
I do miss beast he had some good input most of the time.


 

 

23 Jan 2019 11:58:06
Ed002, I see we are being linked in the press with a move for Paul Mitchell again. Obviously the fact that he has worked with Pochettino at two different clubs and Pochettino is apparently our number one target is the basis of these links.

Are the club interested in Mitchell? And what's your opinion of him as a candidate for the Director of football role our club is pursuing?

Thanks.

Shappy

{Ed002's Note - Red Bull think a lot of him and for the past couple of months have been exploring a new global role for him as another EPL side has shown an interest. I am not aware of any approach by MU.}


1.) 23 Jan 2019 18:31:19
Cheers, Ed002.

{Ed002's Note - I would not want to see MU opt for Mitchell. It would not work in my opinion, but maybe to really move a head the club need to take the knife to the bad part of the apple?}


2.) 23 Jan 2019 18:40:03
Which part of the club is the bad part, in your opinion, Ed?

{Ed002's Note - The pointed bit.}


3.) 23 Jan 2019 20:14:34
Fascinating, from what I can find out about Mitchell he sounds like a United fans dream. Looks towards youth, won't sign players to block the pathway of young players, has unearthed some great signings for the clubs he works for.

So why do you feel Mitchell wouldn't work? And what is the bad part of the apple you allude to?

Thanks.


4.) 24 Jan 2019 06:06:39
The problem with that Shappy is blooding youth and winning trophies in basically impossible at this current time. We have a few very talented kids coming through, but what manager would risk their job here trying to make sure the kids get their chance?


5.) 24 Jan 2019 06:46:23
Mumbles, the right one for our club. We have only ever had consistent success under two managers. Sir Matt and Sir Alex, both built that success on blooding youth players.

Giving youth a chance is what Manchester United is about, a 80 year record of having an academy graduate in the match day squad is unmatched by any club anywhere in the world.


6.) 24 Jan 2019 10:30:17
Thanks for the info ed. Is it true that Andrea Berta is reconsidering now that Jose has left? I thought he was one of the people who jose was happy to work with? Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of anything happening with Andrea Berta right now.}


7.) 24 Jan 2019 11:06:28
Perfect thanks for the swift reply Ed.


8.) 24 Jan 2019 15:57:50
Isn't an apple with a pointed bit just a pear?


 

 

01 Nov 2018 21:36:19
Teams for the Matt Hawker Charity Cup 2019 - brought to you by Boyne Valley
15th June 2019

Ed001's - Lee's United

( C ) Ken
Benny Baller
Liver1980
Rustler
John From Wigan
LeeLee14
Magic Marl
23carragold
Crouchy
Red Reaper
BXL RED
Saints-fan (GK)
Salah

Ed002's - Frunobulax Rovers
( C ) Koppite_68
Red Rout
Grandmaster Ramrod (GK)
Atko1982
Shappy
WelshScouse
WhiteYAYA
Mermaid Megger
Morro6590
Cotsi
Groomy5
MK scouser
Jamesmack8

Big thanks to 077 for setting up the live chat, and to 001 and 002 for giving their time, and once again, supporting the football-rumours charity match, in aid of Macmillan Nurses and Seva Foundation.

Would love an attendance from fellow posters. I know most of use will be going out for some bevvies after. So well worth the trip guys.

Shappy

1.) 02 Nov 2018 15:05:33
Don't worry Shaps, I got your back.


2.) 02 Nov 2018 16:43:52
And watch yours james😁.

{Ed002's Note - I'll have a large gin and tonic please.}


3.) 02 Nov 2018 17:28:15
I think there might be more United fans on our team. So I guess the site will have to be on our side. lol.


 

 

17 Jul 2018 11:05:15
169 Goals at this years World Cup. Which means I'd like to invite.
Salah - 167
Jamesmack8 - 165
Red Reaper - 162
Laney - 160

To play in the 2019 Matt Hawker charity game.
Thanks to everyone who had a guess, and any drop outs I'll contact the next closest.

Next phase will be when Ed001 and 002 pick their two tribes to go to war.
We did a live chat where they took turns picking last year, I think we did it around November? So let's aim for then :)

Posted on behalf of Benny Baller.

Shappy

{Ed002's Note - I'll get on to the kits then.}


1.) 17 Jul 2018 14:09:58
Last time Salah will win anything this season ;)


 

 

 

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23 May 2019 21:56:02
I see no one's mentioned it, but it's been revealed today that none other than our own Anthony Martial is statistically the most clinical player in the EPL. 10 goals from 39 shots.

Maybe we should get him in shooting positions more rather than expecting him to track back.

Shappy

1.) 23 May 2019 22:51:18
Do me a favour shappy.
Maybe HE should get HIMSELF into more shooting positions.
Csm and i had this conversation. His stats are great in that respect he scores 1 in 4 which is good. But you have to question why he does not get into better positions more often.
Countless times he either just doesn't see the runs or just can't be arsed to make the runs. At 23 i don't know which is more concerning.
For me as much as he appears to lack desire and movement he appears to lack real football intelligence and understanding.
His decision making a is often worse than poor his final ball is poor and he often doesn't see the right pass or ignores it.
He has talent he has good physique he just doesn't seem too work heard enough on his game.
Salah mane sane sterling alli all work back very few don't actually.
Martial needs to work harder or face the risk of wasting his talent.
If he is such a good striker why have none of his coaches ever played him there for sustained periods.
I wanted to see him play as striker in our last 4 or 5 games when rash was obviously struggling. But even then ole didn't play him. Why? I really don't know.
I don't enjoy watching him play, much the same way i didn't like watching nani play. I find him frustrating to watch. You have to watch 88 mins of crap in the hope that the 2 mins he can make a great play and score.
I would also hate to play with him.
Personally i don't like his demeanour but i know that's very subjective
The penny may drop for him but its got to drop soon.
No queue of clubs wanted him when he was up for sale. He was offered to a club last month as per ed002 but they didn't want him.
Lets hope it clicks for him here because at 250k a week we will have another sanchez like financial situation with him if we dont. Very hard to shift underperforming players on that sort of money.
Martial has a lot to prove.


2.) 23 May 2019 23:11:13
There's definitely a player in there. I'm not all for wingers being defenders first and attacks second, I'm with you on that Shappy, but he doesn't even work hard to win back the ball when he loses it. I'd love to see him get an extended run of successive games next season. He has bags more potential than any other forward in that squad but I'm not sure Ole is too impressed with him.


3.) 23 May 2019 23:45:21
Only problem is Martial has non-existant movement. You never see him make darting runs in behind like the other wide forwards in the league. No point in being clinical if you can't get into positions.


4.) 23 May 2019 23:50:33
Give him a go as our number 9. That's where he's looked his best for us. Best finisher at the club in my opinion.


5.) 24 May 2019 03:54:58
Shappy. I have always said this. when he was playing CF in first season. he was immense and happy. With our lack of quality on wings, he been moved to left and started suffering because he doesn't feel happy there. I am still by my words to make him CF. Not Rashford. Like Rooney in later years, he is also suffering from his multi positions ability. he should have been rigid and asked to get back to No9 role or leave where he can satisfy himself.


6.) 24 May 2019 04:10:10
He is not a number 9. He's a wide forward.

He should study Sterlings movement and runs, positioning and effort to retreive ball. He could easily do the same.

So many times he just doesn't bother to make the run into the 6 yard box when the ball's in the right channel.

Ole made comment to him not making enough scrappy or tap in goals and I agree completely. If he just focused on that, and then did a job of getting back goalside to shield his fullback then he would be 10 times the player. No one is asking for defensive player of the year awards.

Should also consider that Pogba as the left side midfielder offers very little cover for him. Herrera on that side would have covered him a lot more than PP.


7.) 24 May 2019 06:15:16
Agreed Dodgy. I can't stand Martial as a player and I look forward to when he is no longer at Utd.

He's lazy and sulky, doesn't make any runs, doesn't create, can't be bothered defending and offers no encouragement to his team mates. All he does is pick up the ball and make head down runs towards goal. Most times he runs into traffic and gives the ball away when others are in better positions.

Occasionally by the law of averages he manages to get the ball past a few players and he does have a decent finish so he can score a goal. But when you look at what Sterling does for City, Martial's occasional contribution is not nearly enough.

He exemplifies everything that is wrong at Utd at the moment.


8.) 24 May 2019 06:21:19
Agree with everything Ken said.
There is serious lack of hunger in him.
I would replace Martial with Joao Felix if there was a chance.


9.) 24 May 2019 06:36:05
Agree with Ken here. He plays as part of a front 3, same as Mane and Salah. But he doesn’t have even a fifth of the impact on a game as either of those two. His workrate doesn’t even register on a chart. I dare say he’s the laziest player in the Premier League. It’s so frustrating to see a player with the world at his feet yet zero desire to reach the top. He could be up there with the best, a Manchester United and PL legend, he should be on twice as many goals by now with his pace and finishing. I think we signed the wrong teenager from Monaco.


10.) 24 May 2019 08:11:34
Wazza has hit the nail on the head. Incredible player, could destroy defences, but complete lack of work rate and desire. And that is unforgivable in my book.

{Ed025's Note - in mine too AAA..


11.) 24 May 2019 09:07:02
AaA
Incredible player?
Really?
At his best he is above average.
At his worst a hinderance to the team.


12.) 24 May 2019 10:25:08
I am not sure with Martial. I have seen Shappy say before that Olly may go for 2 up front in a 4222 so we could see him in a more central position to score more.
Also the comment by Dodgy Banter about Sterling. Well its only been these past 2 years he would've put up there which shows that he needed some coaching/ development to bring the best out of him so maybe Martial needs that.
For me he ultimately needs to improve this year whether down the middle or LF.


13.) 24 May 2019 10:53:16
Martial will prove a few off the experts on here who let a personal grudge against a player they have never meet cloud there judgments.
It's always the same people saying the same things about a certain player, until he starts playing well then they will move on to some one else .
Interesting to compare him to someone like salah who was older than martial is now when getting shipped out of Chelsea?
Talented individual who will thrive in the the right system. Time will tell but I'm sure he will prove a few wrong.


14.) 24 May 2019 11:23:26
My comment was not intended to be an assassination of the guy like some seem to have taken it.

Agree jred, sterling in first year at city looked poor. Good coaching has turned him into a player that scores for fun. Ot is no accident that he gets so many tap ins at the back post or through balls finding his runs down the outside channel of CBs.

Martial needs to start getting himself into better positions to be a better influence on the game.

Defensive side has been exposed partly by PP. His attitude rings out as negative, but when his confidence is up this has been less in the past. Feels like his body language suchs the life out of the team

I seem to remember Sterling having similar sulky period when pep first started to coach and influence him in first season? He is the role model to success for AM.


15.) 24 May 2019 12:46:22
A bit like yourself jred when you feel free to critisise players or coaches you never met.


16.) 24 May 2019 13:32:44
Jred, I have no interest in him as a person. I'd just like him to run around a bit for 90 minutes once or twice a week which I don't think is too much to ask.


17.) 24 May 2019 16:21:55
The problem is he’s largely an extremely lazy player who isn’t busy enough.


18.) 24 May 2019 16:38:23
He needs to make more effort.


19.) 24 May 2019 16:57:54
In martials defence re tap ins that would require someone from our right hand side to square the ball to him for a tap in

we hardly ever attack down the right, when we do it's normally Ashley Young whos crossing is poor and it's going to be a cross from deep or near the by line so not a tap in style cross more a back post header job

As united attack generally down the left it means martial is involved in the build up play so thus is deeper so isn't on the defenders shoulder. As the world and his dog knows we don't have a right side the opposition usually packs our left side.

Soon as we sort the right side out I believe we will see a lot more from martial in an attacking sense at least and if not the excuse has gone.


20.) 24 May 2019 18:09:44
The whole reason I believe these stats to be pointless is they can be manipulated to make somebody look good or look bad. Martial has one major problem and the same can be said for Pogba they don't try hard enough. Martial had a good little spell, he got his new contract and he just went back to his normal self. I do believe he can be a great player for us, if we surround him with the right players and move him more centrally. But he will need to start working harder or he will waste his career.


21.) 24 May 2019 18:54:24
jred, if Martial starts playing well people will hopefully change their opinion. You seem to suggest that’s a bad thing. Martial is clearly lacking in the effort department, if that changes, I for one will be happily proved wrong.

Until then, I think he’s very lazy and wasting the massive amount of natural talent he has.

We are talking about a player who plays like Thierry Henry for 1 game a season, but Terry Wogan for the rest.


22.) 24 May 2019 19:51:01
Wazza that's a great point.
Peoples opinions on players will mostly be dictated by their form.
If any players plays crap for 3 seasons he will and bloody well should be questioned.
If the player answers those questions and improves their form that will change opinions.
Shaw i would have sold last summer. I still think he has a long way to go not withstanding his poy award. But i think he deserved his contract after improving so much. He has expressed his gratitude very publicly to jose and credited him and his influence with that turn around in form.
He wants to play in the england and united team so he needs to continue with his improvement.
If martial improves and plays well then people will stop asking questions. Surely that's a good thing.


23.) 24 May 2019 20:56:15
Not sure about that Ken. I think people's opinions are shaped more by the commitment a player shows.


24.) 24 May 2019 21:26:34
Manc man if a player is playing well most will ignore a bit off attitude.


25.) 24 May 2019 20:39:43
I cannot recall ever seeing martial getting himself to slide in at the back post to finish a chance. this is telling.


26.) 24 May 2019 21:50:54
Exactly Ken.

Pogba got a lot less stick when he played well at the start of Ole’s reign.

Now his form is poor and people criticise his laziness. And rightly so.

If somebody isn’t putting in any effort they don’t deserve praise. This applies to many things in life such as work and relationships.


27.) 25 May 2019 00:56:37
Ken, I see your point but even when a lazy player is playing well we still don't respect them because we know they can and should be doing better. Anyway, it's no big deal.

I like it when the supporters give lazy players the bird like Pogba got at the end of the season because strolling round the pitch is taking the micheal and these players should be hounded out of the club. They have no place at Manchester Utd.


28.) 25 May 2019 08:23:22
On the subject of Martial I think he has talent but not the right attitude and you can’t be a great or even a good footballer without both. Phlegmatic at times, the tries sometimes not others attitude isn’t good enough, he got upset over the number on his shirt, how ridiculous, it’s not about the number it’s about being in the team. In terms of being a good finisher, yes when one on one but goal hanger is not workable in 11 a side and that is what he seems to want. At least they don’t have to wash his shirt after games. In the must improve his attitude and effort category.


29.) 25 May 2019 09:33:06
Would sterling be performing to his current level if he was part of the United set over the season compared to how he has played for city .

It's not a computer game a lot of things are involved in producing a squad of players that play well as a team .
People just think it's a case of buying x y and z .
Its am armchair view but each to there own.


30.) 25 May 2019 10:25:40
Jred. Do you think martial has been putting in enough effort in most games?
And do you think he has been doing well?

You are always very good at telling people they are wrong and jump in to rubbish belittle and critisise people opinions.
So oosters can understand why you always react the way you do it would be great if you would share your opinions
I think you wanted poch as our manager. I can totally understand that opinion but I've no idea apart from that.
What areas of the squad to you think we need to strengthen?
Which positions do you think we should prioritise?
Which players would you like to see come in?
Which players do you think ole should sell and why?
If ddg goes who would you like to see targeted?
Who do you think should be our no1 cf next season?
What do you make of our full back options and how would you like to line up there next season?
Who would you like to see as 1st choice cb pairing next season?
Do you want pogba to stay?
What would you do or what do you think will happen with lukaku.



These are all popular discussions on here along with lots of others.
I really would like to hear your opinion on these topics rather than critiquing or jumping in to rubbish others opinions. It would provide clarity if you shared your views so that we can understand what you think or what you would like to see happen.


31.) 25 May 2019 12:04:57
Ken
I've covered them all to bits, you where to busy trying to ram your opinion down my throat to actually read them .

Which areas should we strengthen? We should like every other team strengthen the squad as a whole . I would look and expect the club to look for a RB with Tony going, a player that will strengthen and complement and improve the back 4 . As well as stabilizing the cm and adding to attack . That said I've heard Dalot could be used in this role .
With Herrera moving we need a cm

Who would I like to sign? There are many players out there, we need to build a squad, stay away from the Sanchez style signing. The club will buy young this year and get back to building a team.

Who should we sell? Impossible to say, selling rojo for example for 20 mill will make little to no difference, he has played a couple of games, so him being at another club will make very little difference . Finance wise there is so many other issue it's not even worth discussing.
I don't think mata fits our system, that said he is a very good player and if we switch it up tactically he will do great . That is the case for several of our players and it's not a computer game and not as simple as you think .
If ddg goes? It would depend who is available I wouldt be surprised if we looked at Gianluigi Donnarumma, but he is young for a keeper and moving leagues etc would be a big ask . Romero is decent, nothing more but it would make little sense to spent 100 mill on someone like obalk. Is he a better player than Romero? Yes imo. is he 100mill better? Not if it was my money .
I would have Romero in nets before I spent 100mill plus wages etc on a obalk signing . It wouldn't be a big enough improvement, balanced against the cost and risk . Which is at the base of every transfer

Do I want pogba to stay? Yes, I want him to stay and produce his best football same as lukaku martial rash etc . If we can get everything in line to get the best out of our players we will be fine . But we need to get the best out of the current squad and players before we expect any new players to come in and play well .
With everything in place at the club pogba and martial for example will do very well as they are both very good players. If not they will continue to produce football below there standard, but if we haven't got everything in place and go and spent 200 mill on sancho and felix they 2 will have the same problems as pogba.
Just because a player plays well for a certain team, in a different environment etc doesn't mean they will replicate that form in a completely different environment.
Flip it round and if pogba moved to a team and the right environment he would do very well

What would I do with lukaku? Nothing, the lad has scored goals everywhere he has been and has scored goals when ever we have played well as a team.
It is a team sport and when everything is right the team will play well and individuals will play well .
Lukaku martial etc have all shown the level they can play at and when we have played well as a team have played well.
But again there are a million other factors, it's really not a simple question.


32.) 25 May 2019 12:08:45
Pressed send a bit early, but we have the youth set up to look at, what us the plan over the next 3to 4 years etc . Its not just about starting next season with x y, z. And that has a bearing in everyone of your question .
Ed always fans should getting involved with money, that should be be running a club.


33.) 25 May 2019 12:38:49
So you want rash lukaku and martial to stay and you think they all should be playing as a cf as you have said on many occasions that cf is their best position.
Do you not think that's 3 players for 1 position as ole plays 1 up most of the time? That will cause issues imo as none want to play from wide so it leaves us very short out wide.
So who do you see as our best cf?


34.) 25 May 2019 13:14:52
Ken
What's with all the question lol.
I've given my opinion several times on all the above .
If all you can do is ask another silly question from all the above, it just sums you up .
If that's the hole you are trying to pick from the above then it speaks volumes.
Cf is there best position, but 2 up top could work, we could play an inter changing front line, rash can play wide, David villa, Eto are just examples of players who have done the above I could go on etc etc . wait what's the point . I'm wasting my time .
Let's be honest I'm wasting my time, your last question in the context of the above speaks volumes.


35.) 25 May 2019 13:33:07
Whats wrong with the question?
If we keep 3 players who all want to lead the line and none of them perform to their best out wide nor are they happy playing there what's the point in that?

From your post you really want to keep all our squad and wait another year for them to start playing well. Even if they are unhappy and can't play in their favoured position.
It makes no sense to me.

If ole plays 2 up top then there is merit in keeping all 3 but he has preferred to play 433 or 4411 with a ten type player which none of those 3 are.
Maybe you think its a stupid question because you can only come up with a stupid reply resorting to insults because you struggle to articulate what you mean.

Martial is not happy not leading the line. Nor is lukaku nor is rashford there is not enough game time playing 1 up top to keep the all happy. I feel if they are forced to play out of position it will cause problems.


36.) 25 May 2019 13:40:58
Lol ok Ken.


37.) 25 May 2019 14:07:20
You could be right little man. Sticking your head in the sand keeping all the players continue to play them out of position in a totally unbalanced side and doing all the same things but expecting different results couldd be the way to go.
We did try that last season it didn't work but it might work next season. If it doesnt.
Then you will be calling for another managers head because he can't get these players gelling yet again.

The vast majority think otherwise.
Lets hope we see 7 or 8 leave that would be ideal and give us the best chance of moving forwards.

I really hope we don't keep 3 cf for 1 position and have no wide players i think its been proven that doesn't work by finishing 6th yet again.


38.) 25 May 2019 14:33:42
Ken
Yawn nobody said any of what you have put in your last post .
Like I have said I'm wasting my time .
Keep digging the hole, it speaks volumes, but is very boring 😂😂.


 

 

18 May 2019 11:48:27
What does everyone make of the links to Andre Onana?

I don't think anyone would be shocked of DDG was to leave this summer.

But with Romero, Grant, Joel Pereira and Dean Henderson on the books do we need to go out and spend a significant amount of money and time chasing another goalkeeper when we have so many other areas that need improvement?

For the record from what I have seen of Onana he looks an excellent young goalkeeper. Just not sure he would be needed even if DDG was to leave.

Shappy

1.) 18 May 2019 12:19:30
stich with romero never let us down.


2.) 18 May 2019 12:27:38
Shappy, I definitely think we’d need to replace DDG. There’s a lot of love for Romero on here but I don’t see how we challenge with him as no. 1. If he was good enough he’d be doing it elsewhere. I question his desire if he’s happy sat on the bench and in addition to that there’s top clubs around Europe competing for titles with average goalkeepers (Juve and Barcelona to start) . Why is nobody sniffing round him, he would be affordable.


3.) 18 May 2019 12:51:28
I’d have Romero and Henderson.


4.) 18 May 2019 12:58:34
give it to romero. has not let us down and would allow us to invest the money elsewhere. if he has a poor season you have the option of henderson or buying someone more established like oblak.


5.) 18 May 2019 13:35:13
If the plan is to play with a higher line and press more defensively then we require a goalkeeper who isn't stuck to his goal line, otherwise with the chuckle brothers in defence teams are going to have their way with us with a simple long ball over the top.

De gea is a fantastic goalkeeper but due to our rudimentary style of play hasn't had to develop other facets of his game like ederson, ter stegen, neuer and allison have had to. Also if he wants to leave let him, its the third time he's tried to leave so we should grant his wish.

Romero is a fine back up and henderson is promising but we should be looking for the right goalkeeper to suit how were going to play. Onana might be that guy or even cilleson.


6.) 18 May 2019 14:38:20
If we are honest we need a minimum of a RB, CB, CM, AM and a RW.
We could do with LB to challenge Shaw. another CB as only Lindelof and Tuanzebe should be kept with Jones, Rojo, Bailly and Smalling being shown the door. A CDM to replace Matic. A ST to replace Lukaku and a LW to replace Martial.

So that's five must haves, and a further five required to have a squad that could truly challenge for the title.

If we replace DDG with a player such as Oblak or Donnarumma then we would be looking at spending the best part of 100m. Plus it will be a difficult deal to get over the line and therefore take a long time. If we go for someone more attainable such as Onana who is a good keeper by the way they will still cost close to 50m (apparently 35m was dismissed out of hand) .

That is a big chunk of the budget and significant time chasing another player to replace DDG.

For me there are only a handful of goalkeepers in the world actually better than Romero, very few if any are available and all would cost a huge fee.

My point is, would you be happy if the club spent half the summer and 100m on Oblak but then only had time/ money to bring in a RB, CB and CM.

Or would you rather we had Romero as first choice next season (he has never let us down) and we managed to sign a RB, CB, CM, AM and RW?

Personally I would prefer we had Romero as No.1 and we brought in the players this side needs rather than chasing an expensive DDG replacement who will ultimately not be as good as the player he is replacing and would likely mean we can't improve the squad in other areas.


7.) 18 May 2019 15:54:18
I'm sorry, I don't see him as a number 1 at a club looking to challenge for a title.

So he should be ok here, then 😁.


8.) 18 May 2019 16:25:10
Stevie, I would put Romero above keeper in the EPL bar DDG, Ederson and Allison. I would say he is on par with Kepa and Lloris.

He isn't quite in that top tier of goalkeepers at present but he is in that next tier down.

DDG, Allison, Ederson, Ter Stegen, Oblak and Neuer (just about but on the decline) are all top level.

Kepa, Navas, Courtois, Lloris, Handanovic, Donnarumma (although he has the potential to climb into that top bracket) are all in that second tier. For me Romero is at this level, he has just been unfortunate to have been at a club with on of the top tier players for the past few seasons.

If we sell DDG who on or near his level will be available? Oblak maybe, but at a huge price. Most of that second group would coast a huge amount as well and all are at a similar level to Romero. So I see no point chasing those type of players.

We also have the young English goalkeeper with the most potential in Dean Henderson. I would be happy to loan Henderson out to Sheffield United for next season, Have Romero as No.1 with Grant and J. Pereira as back up. Then depending on how Henderson performs in the EPL with Sheffield United bring him back the following summer to challenge Romero or if need be look to bring in someone else then.

As you say we won't be challenging for the league next year, so do we need a top tier keeper any way?


9.) 18 May 2019 16:33:34
This again is down to strategy which should be clear from the manager. What sort of goalkeeper do you want Mr Solskjaer? If you look at City and Liverpool the manager knows what they want, do we? That should determine who is in goals next season. The best goalkeeper I have seen and I go back to Banks and Stepney, was Schmeichel. He couldn’t pass the ball like a midfielder but he commanded the defence, looked unbeatable one on one. That was back then, now more thought goes into it. DDG is a great shot stopper but doesn’t command his area or defence, his passing wouldn’t do for City but what is it that our Manager wants?

Simple fact is asking, how does the manager want to play? What does he expect of his goalkeeper and promote/ buy from there. The worrying thing? Does he know?


10.) 18 May 2019 17:38:16
Yeah, I think he's just winging it 🙄.


11.) 18 May 2019 18:53:01
Red Man - just maybe Ole does know what he wants and who he wants but he doesn't feel it necessary to contact you directly to discuss it. He might have made it clear to all concerned and is moving forward with his plans but then that wouldn't suit either yours or the press's agenda so is definitely not true. No doubt if he doesn't win the treble next year you will be telling us how right you were.
Just face facts you can't change things so it's no good moaning about everything that's in the press or is written on here so go along with the ride as decisions will be made regardless of your constant moaning.
Failing that write to Ole demanding he consults you before he makes any decision .


12.) 18 May 2019 21:42:50
Keanooh

Then like every season for 51 years I will watch our managers make decisions right or wrong. When he finishes 7th I will be as frustrated as you

The proof is in the season ahead and I have a feeling we will be stuffed but hey what do I know.


 

 

12 May 2019 18:08:24
Right, seasons over and we can put that shower of c**p behind us. On the pitch we have been about as poor as we possibly could have been. However, as seen today our undoing this season has been the complete inability to defend.

The first goal was unfortunate. That was a shocking decision by the Ref who looked overweight and unfit. He was in a bad position and he guessed a decision. That was unfortunate. If there is one manager you don't want to go 1-0 down to it is Warnock. Cardiff shut up shop after that moment and sat deep and in numbers making it nearly impossible to break down. The second goal came from a moment of naivety from McTominay, finding himself playing at CB as surprise surprise Jones picked up an injury he got rolled and they had an ocean on space. Just poor defending.

None of Jones, Smalling, Rojo or Bailly are good enough to be starting every week. Most aren't good enough as a rotation option. Darmian, Valencia and Young aren't good enough at full back either. Hardly surprising with 2 or 3 of this lot starting every week we struggle to not ship goals.

That lack of confidence in our defence spreads through the team. Personally I would ship all of them out. Promote Tuanzebe and Mitchell to the first team squad. Then buy a RB and TWO CB's.

Until we sort our defence out everything else pitch wise is futile.

Shappy

1.) 12 May 2019 18:32:09
Your right shappy shipping two at home to Cardiff is incredibly disappointing but so is scoring nil and one to two related teams.


2.) 12 May 2019 18:52:33
Slate, Scoring is so much harder when your worrying about being hit on the counter. The lack of stability at the back makes it harder to control the game and create those goal scoring chances. Another real issue we have had this season is a lack of confidence amongst our forwards. Many of them have snatched at shots they should be burying.

I would give Lukaku another season. He scored 27 last season, and if we are to play a two striker system then he will be useful. I think the issue is he spent last summer bulking up, which has hindered him. If we can get him on a tone down plan over the summer where he can become leaner, fitter and more agile then he could be a striker reborn next season.


3.) 12 May 2019 18:59:44
Problem is Jones and Smalling have signed new deals and even if we made it clear that we wanted to sell who is going to buy them?

Ole needs to be brutal and tell the players that are not good enough that they need to leave as they have no future. The time has come to start moving this club forward and there are too many mediocre players in this squad.


4.) 12 May 2019 19:09:38
I don't just blame the strikers shappy, a striker is probably only as good as his service, we have scored loads less than pool or city, to be honest pretty much all departments need improving and an old adage is start at the back so I don't really dispute what yr saying .
I'm one of the people a couple of year ago who was excited at the thought of rash and martial but I have to be honest they looked better prospects two year ago, they got a raw deal when Sanchez arrived but to be honest haven't helped themselves much either.


5.) 12 May 2019 19:14:50
Maybe with our contacts we could get a good price for Jones, Young and Rojo from Salford?


6.) 12 May 2019 19:22:22
The problem is it won't be up to ole who goes. I wouldn't be surprised to see young Jones smalling and shaw as the back 4 next season.
I always try to take the positives but there are none. It will be a tough few years ahead, unless big decisions are made correctly I won't be holding my breath.


7.) 12 May 2019 19:34:54
We could have any striker in world football in our team we would still struggle to score goals


We don't have natural wingers we have no quality midfielders that can control games pick passes out that can change the game.

We have defenders with no leadership not one single bit of awareness or ability to do the simple things you expect a professional footballer to do.


We have a team full or poisons and until this is changed expect nothing different next season.


We can all complain and call it an embarrassment but the players do not care. why would they there still getting the money each week.

Woodard needs to step up and show some balls and do what he didn't do last summer and back the manager


We finished 2nd last season miles off 1st and we signed one player for the first team in fred

How can you expect to challenge when you don't improve.

Unless we make major changes this is where we have become.

Enjoy the summer off and hope by some miracle something positive happens with this club.


8.) 12 May 2019 23:04:16
I know that people say that the players get paid too much and don't care but i think that latter criticism is unfair. I don't think anybody would want to have to constantly face public criticism about the way they did their job. To me the problems stem right from the top. The club appears rudderless, no clear direction, without focus and this has transmitted itself to the players. Allied to this is the lack of real leaders on the pitch.


 

 

12 May 2019 12:01:36
So a slight change of topic, with Valencia leaving this summer along with Herrera and most likely Mata as well who would be your pick for club captain?

A captain should be a player others look to for leadership, a player setting the standard. However, often I feel it now goes to the most popular or whoever is the most marketable or whoever has been at the club longest.

I would like to see it go to Lindelof, hard working pro who doesn't mess around off the pitch. Always gives his all, and has over come adversity after a tough start to his career. He is also the only player other than Ander and occasionally Young who will attempt to gee up his team mates when we go a goal down. He has fight in him, and we will need that moving forward. Young, Pogba or Smalling would be the wrong choice in my opinion for different reasons.

Shappy

1.) 12 May 2019 12:27:05
Lindelöf presuming no one better comes in.


2.) 12 May 2019 12:32:14
Definitely agree on Lindelof.


3.) 12 May 2019 12:58:57
The captain should always be a centre back or centre midfielder. The only one in the discussion is Lindelof.


4.) 12 May 2019 12:59:45
Lindelof or Matic.


5.) 12 May 2019 13:10:54
Mort, I don't agree that a Captain should play in a certain position. It's down to mentality and personality, not footballing skill set. I would agree that it helps if the Captain plays centrally as they are able to speak to most players that way and they will more than likely be in the thick of the action.

But there have been some great captains who have been full backs, forwards or even goalkeepers.


6.) 12 May 2019 13:17:23
I don't agree with it going to forwards they don't see enough of the game and have enough with scoring. I didn't it was due to skill set just the communication factor. Full backs maybe but I think being centrally positioned is easier.


7.) 12 May 2019 13:20:43
De Ligt 🙄.


8.) 12 May 2019 13:24:12
It’s slim pickings. I don’t think anybody at the club is captain material but from the current crop it would be Lindelof.

I wouldn’t be against a new player coming in and taking the armband straight away. Toby would be a good candidate or a player of similar quality and experience.


9.) 12 May 2019 13:33:03
Axel Tuanzebe, has captained at every youth level and if we don't sign a centre back in the summer, he is better than every defender at the club apart from lindelof.


10.) 12 May 2019 13:37:14
Mort, What about Rooney, Cantona, Law or Chalton? Were they not good Captains despite being forwards?

What about Del Piero? Raul? Rivaldo? Totti? Kane? Messi? Maradona?

Some of these guys have Captained their sides to some of the biggest honours in world football.

I agree that for several reasons it might be preferable to have someone who can see the whole pitch. However, you captain isn't necessarily responsible for dictating play. He is there to lead the team by example, set the tone of the team.

Vidic and Keane were great captains, yet neither dictated play.


11.) 12 May 2019 14:41:26
There are not many candidates. I think Young or Smalling will get it but neither should be near the first eleven in my opinion so shouldn't get it.

As others have said, Lindelof is about the only player in our defence who could be a good choice.i


12.) 12 May 2019 16:49:53
I'll grant you Cantona. Rooney was a poor captain and Law and Charlton had it on seniority, same as some others on your list.


 

 

11 May 2019 15:56:40
I think the number of people upset/ angry about Ander Herrera leaving just highlights just how highly he was regarded by the United fan base.

With the level of disconnect between the fans and the squad maybe only 2 or 3 players at most could cause any sort of backlash from the fans. I think that is a major issue for the club going forward. They need the fans to love the players again.

Shappy

1.) 11 May 2019 16:29:13
Shappy I think what is making people angry is the fact Jones and smalling and young have all been given extensions when they are awful

Herrera might not he a world class name like your silvas and your hazards but he makes us better.


2.) 11 May 2019 16:58:07
I for one will greatly miss Ander Herrera. He gave his all on the pitch, made his teammates better and loved the club. Winning teams have the world class players that make the highlight reels, but they also have guys like Ander Herrera who do the hard work and put winning above themselves.


3.) 11 May 2019 17:03:08
Bolger, Hazard might call Herrera world class after the amount of time he's spent in his pocket.

Although I like most would choose to keep Herrera over those you mentioned, I can understand why the club looked to tie them down. With the homegrown quota that teams have to meet, losing homegrown players, even ones who might not be up to scratch, is a massive mistake.

Personally I'd like to see the club push through some deals involving "homegrown" players this summer. AWB, Rice, Maddison are all players I think could be excellent signings for us. The fact the club are supposedly looking as Daniel James might hint at that homegrown talent might be on the minds of the decision makers at the club.

Currently in the first team squad we have: Jones, Young, Smalling, Shaw, McTominay, Pogba, Lingard, Rashford. That's 8, we are required to have 7 or name a smaller first team squad. Adding a few will allow those not good enough to leave. But until they do, we might be stuck with them.


4.) 11 May 2019 17:22:04
Herrera has been unable to nail down a starting spot under three different managers and his inconsistency has mirrored that of the Club. He's enjoyed periods of good form but in reality and if we're honest he's been relatively disappointing.

If we're now basing our love for a player because they simply try hard it just emphasises what a bunch of mercenaries we have in our team and the reason we find ourselves in this malaise. Working hard, trying your best and giving your all for the Club, your team mates and the fans is the most basic requirement needed to play for our great Club. We are allowing ourselves to be disrespected by players earning more money than some small countries economies and they can't even be bothered to run. If you can't show some hunger, desire and commitment when you pull on that red shirt then you have no business being at the Club. Sell the lot and start again.

Herrera at least fulfilled that very basic obligation better than most but he's been paid handsomely and the honour was his to have had the opportunity to represent our great Club. He's not an International, he's no where near one of the top midfielders in the Prem never mind the World and I'm not sure why PSG want to pay him so much money to sit on their bench. They are a Club similar to ours filled with overpaid and entitled charlatans and pre-madonnas who they have to bribe with untold riches to get them to play in an uncompetitive league. They all invariably choke when they have to play some decent teams and show some grit, determination, heart and commitment.

Fellaini always tried his best but didn't command the same out pouring of grief. Valencia has never let the Club down yet I haven't read a single post thanking him for his loyal service. Shame on us, He's leaving tomorrow as well. I agree we should all show our respect but he's chosen to leave and we move on.


5.) 11 May 2019 18:47:26
Pre Madonna? Is that someone who was born before the Princess of Pop?


6.) 11 May 2019 19:19:19
Exactly Betty you know the sort 🤣.


7.) 11 May 2019 19:24:24
Henderson, tuanzebe, fosu mensah, garner, gomes, chong and greenwood. If even 50% of this group were of some quality they would be more useful than smalling, jones and young.

We are stuck with jones and smalling now as no one will pay their wages and transfer fee.


8.) 11 May 2019 19:44:54
DSG, we are stuck with Jones and Smalling as no one will pay their medical bills.


 

 

 

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24 May 2019 16:22:57
Mort that's not quite true, Heinze did well and Romero has never let us down. But I do agree that more often than not they have failed to live up to the hype.

Personally I feel we always do better with Northern European's, Scandinavians and Eastern block. I feel they seem to settle into life in northern England better than those from a Latin background.

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23 May 2019 11:17:38
Rakitic is a great player, my concern isn't his age, although I would ideally steer clear of players around 30 who have never played in the EPL. However, my main concern is would he fit how the Ole want's the team to play? He works very well in a possession based set up and if LvG was still our manager he might be an ideal signing.

If Ole wants to play a more pressing/ counter attacking set up then I'm not sure that plays into Rakitic's strengths. He isn't the guy to do much closing down or pressing and he tends to be better at recycling the ball rather than playing that quick pass to break the lines (although it hard to judge as Barcelona don't play that way) .

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21 May 2019 16:08:16
Nathaniel, I think it's blatany obvious that Ed Woodward is Red Man😂.

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17 May 2019 13:33:32
Ed001, What's your opinion on McTominay as a player? What role do you think he will settle into?

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17 May 2019 06:43:16
An expensive, luxury player who has a questionable attitude and a massive ego but doesn't fill a role this team needs?

I am almost certain that Ed Woodward is on it.

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27 May 2019 07:44:39
Whilst I agree we need a more of a threat from the right hand side to give our attack more balance and less predictability.

I feel the two main areas we let ourselves down is an inability to not concede goals and a lack of creativity.

Often I think people see a lack of creativity as a winger or wide player issue, not stretching teams or not running in behind. However, they forget to go back to the source of the problem. If no one is controlling the game and making the pass to set them free then they can't run in behind.

In our team the problem is the only midfielder we have who does this is Pogba, and he is consistently inconsistent, often looking for the Hollywood ball rather than the effective one.

It's no coincidence that our ability to create goals and control games dropped off a cliff when Scholes retired, both first and second time.

We need to solve that issue and bring in a quality midfielder who can control the tempo and has the vision to start the attacks. That will go a long way to solve BOTH the problem of shipping too many goals and give us a better chance of scoring more goals.

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26 May 2019 21:48:06
Leahy, what he has said has been an opinion for the most part. So it can't be seen as something that is true or not as it's subjective.

But he has been scathing on more than one occasion both pre-Sir Alex retiring and after.

He upset a number of coaches at the club before he left, it was them that complained to Sir Alex about him acting like a coach and not as a player. He up set Sir Bobby while at the club with what he said about academy players, he also upset a couple of people on the board.

Since he has left several ex-players and ex-coaches have attempted to extend the olive branch and all have been met with the same rejection.

He isn't involved in games like the one tonight because HE doesn't want to be involved. Whether Sir Alex or anyone else at the club offered or not.

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26 May 2019 17:21:08
I think we need to seriously have a rethink about what we pay players.

It's one thing to pay a proven world class player a huge 200k+ wage when they are in their prime years.

But a completely different one to pay a young player with potential a world class 200k+ a week wage. As if you start paying 19 or 20 year olds 200k a week then what will you end up paying them three years down the line when they are due a renewal? At that point they will be in their early twenties and still 3-4 years away from their peak years, which at that point you will need to renew their contract for a second time.

We are having that issue to some extent with DDG now. He wants 350k+ per week, but as a keeper he will be due another renewal in 3-4 years time. What will it be then 500k+ for a goalkeeper who will only start to decline.

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26 May 2019 17:14:54
I think he will be an excellent player, but he isn't there yet. I remember when we played Ajax in the Europa League final. He looked shakey in that game and if anything Davison Sanchez looked the better player in that game. Yet Davison Sanchez has hardly set the world alight since his move to Spurs.

I know that was two years ago, but again in the Spurs game he didn't look imperious. physically strong, great technical qualities, yet often caught out of position and he doesn't have great recovery pace.

So great potential, but a lot of development still required. I think we need someone much closer to the finished article at the moment in central defence.

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26 May 2019 17:07:45
Keane was a great player and as big a legend as anyone could name. Yet Keane himself has burnt his bridges with United and takes every chance he gets to have a dig at the club as he is a bitter man. It's a shame, for me he was one of the greatest United players I have ever seen. Yet that doesn't make him a great human being.

He could come back and enjoy these events and be part of what was a fantastic celebration today of one of our greatest ever sides.

But he himself needs to work towards rebuilding the bridges just as much as anyone else connected with the club needs to if that is to happen.

Sadly, I don't see that happening. It's easy to blame Sir Alex, but Keane has burnt bridges with many people at the club and it is not just down to Sir Alex.

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