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05 Jul 2018 09:34:57
Papers now linking us with Shaqiri.

Him and Shaw would be unstoppable in the cafeteria.


1.) 05 Jul 2018 11:33:52
If Shaw got in first. There would nothing left in the cafeteria.


2.) 05 Jul 2018 11:49:42
I’d say they both try to go through at the same time, and just get stuck.


3.) 05 Jul 2018 12:29:46
Leave the jokes, guys. For 12mln tell me a better quality right winger who happily will be a squad player. And do not forget that we are playing without right wing for years.

{Ed001's Note - happily be a squad player? He left Bayern because he refused to be a squad player.}


4.) 05 Jul 2018 13:09:07
I mean his career has been a litany of failed auditions at big clubs. He ended up at Stoke where he put in no effort. That’s about his level - struggling EPL club where he can get by on natural ability without having to work.


5.) 05 Jul 2018 13:22:55
Not sure he wanted to leave, more like Bayern wanted to sell.

{Ed001's Note - yes, because he refused to knuckle down and be a squad player.}


6.) 05 Jul 2018 13:55:28
A simple question. what if a gamble clicked?


7.) 05 Jul 2018 15:38:35
Always tried to back jose and give him the benefit of the doubt but if the rumours about Shaqiri are true I’ll have lost all faith, don’t care if its 12 million or 12 bob he’s not worth it, i watched him against the swedes and i bet he didn’t run a bloody mile all game and that's at the World Cup.


8.) 05 Jul 2018 17:32:01
Absolute no to shaq IMO. Wont be happy with what we probably wpuld offer and he'd be leaving again next season.


9.) 05 Jul 2018 19:54:58
He’s failed everywhere, why on Earth would we sign him?


10.) 05 Jul 2018 20:02:26
Make a good door stop?


11.) 05 Jul 2018 20:51:35
Last week some folk on here were saying shaqiri is better than mata and jessie. 😂😂😂😂😂😊.


12.) 06 Jul 2018 01:06:08
Talented player but needs a team to be built around him, and he's not talented or applied enough to get that at a top club. Plus, he personifies the opposite of a "Jose player"! I wouldn't pick him ahead of Lingard, Alexis, Mata, Rashford, or the pre-slump Martial. I'd also rather Pogba play further forward with another midfielder in behind him than in a 2 with Shaqiri as 1 of the attacking 4. A big fat no from me. He'll probably end up joining a smaller club. Liverpool perhaps?


 

 

14 Jul 2017 11:22:42
Reported in Spain that Madrid are back in for De Gea, and he wants to leave. Price being mooted is £50m. Take it with a pinch of salt.

But if it is true, then this should be fun. If they wanted £70m for their backup striker, then how much is one of the top keepers in the world worth?


1.) 14 Jul 2017 11:24:47
£100m thanks Real.


2.) 14 Jul 2017 11:41:18
Pickford 30 mil for an upcoming keeper. De gea the best in the world needs to be 100 mil +.


3.) 14 Jul 2017 11:46:08
Minimum 100 million.


4.) 14 Jul 2017 12:00:42
All depends for all we know there might have been a gentleman's agreement for him to leave made last summer and a figure agreed. That figure then would look cheap by today's prices. Time will tell.


5.) 14 Jul 2017 12:02:45
£60mill+Kroos please thank you.


6.) 14 Jul 2017 12:03:17
Toni Kroos and £60m.


7.) 14 Jul 2017 12:26:33
with no prior agreement in place between us and RM i would say £95mil and make him the most expensive player in the world - for the short term anyway.


8.) 14 Jul 2017 12:30:08
If he wants out it will be hard to stop. But it must be on our terms. Perhaps we could get the opportunity to talk to bale or kroos if jose wants them.
A question i asked on another thread would we need to sign a keeper or would be go work romero and Perriera?


9.) 14 Jul 2017 12:35:17
Easily worth £100m today. Kroos and 60 would be a good return but this isn't footy manager. I'd love us to just stick 2 fingers up to Madrid and tell Mendes he needs to be loyal to us given the recent business we've done with him.


10.) 14 Jul 2017 13:54:08
Haven't we already rejected a 60 million bid.


11.) 14 Jul 2017 14:31:41
Don't think so bolger.


12.) 14 Jul 2017 14:31:43
Let's be realistic with the valuation, whilst the money at the minute for outfield players is crazy we are not going to get more than £60/ 70m for DDG. Keepers are important but not valued as highly as strikers.
At the end of last year I thought Mourinho for all his talk would have been happy with DDG going at a good price and starting season with Romero and the pereira who he thinks will be world class in a few years.
If DDG goes Hopefully we start conversations about Bale coming the other way.


13.) 14 Jul 2017 14:42:21
Unfortunately I think it's inevitable that De Gea will end up at Madrid. I've said before that it has the feel of the Fabregas to Barcelona to it and will eventually happen. I just hope we get the maximum amount for him. Jose seems to be getting decent fees for all the outgoings so far. I'd say between £80-90 million and he's yours. Then go after Jack Butland.


14.) 14 Jul 2017 14:46:48
Brad, historically goal scorers command the big fees. But with Liverpool rumoured to be happy to pay £70m million for Keita who's had one season in the bundesliga, why not stick for £100m for the worlds best goal keeper?


15.) 14 Jul 2017 15:09:35
Even if the player wants to go, we don't have to do the deal. It is feasible to hold the player to his contract. DDG seems like a good professional and he's already at one of the biggest clubs in the world with Champions League football.

However, I really rate Romero. I was at OT when he made his debut and I thought then he looked like an accomplished keeper. I have no doubt he would be an excellent number one for us.

If DDG is sold that leaves an interesting conundrum with Perriera. If I was Jose I would be asking myself, if Romero got injured is Perriera ready to step up straight away?

I think as that we need to reset the balance of our relationship with Real Madrid. They need to understand that they cannot just help themselves to any of our players and that if they are not prepared to be reasonable with players we want to buy from them, we are prepared to walk away and find an alternative.


 

 

 

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09 Feb 2019 14:28:04
Another good performance, with Pogba and Tony excelling.

But, let's talk about Fred.

5th highest transfer fee, and can't even make the bench. He's not only behind our first choice three, but McTominay and Perreira too. I haven't seen anything in his game that suggests he's a top level player, let alone a £50m player. I would assume that the club is already looking to move him on, but I can't see us recouping anything close to what we paid.

Definitely a contender for our worst ever signing.


1.) 09 Feb 2019 14:43:33
I do not think it's that simple.
I'm not sure but Fred got a chance, then Pereira got a chance and mctominay got a chance.
None of them have done anything to suggest they are anywhere close to playing in our midfield 3.
I'd still put Fellaini above these 3.
Really hope all 3 of these can stay fit for most parts till the end of the season and then we can decide.

{Ed004's Note - Tbf McTominay played well today. Very assured performance. However, hopefully the Ndombele rumours are true as we need to strengrhen our depth in midfield and plan for Matic successor}


2.) 09 Feb 2019 15:48:22
I agree, I’m not fully convinced by any of them. But McTominay is by far the most promising, and Fred the least.

With McTominay I can see him doing a job. Perreria, not sold on, don’t think he is a cm player, or that he will ever do well in the EPL. With Fred, however, I got nothing. Terrible first touch, average passing ability, weak defensively, and just unimposing. What does he do, and where does he fit in?


3.) 09 Feb 2019 17:01:20
He looked good at Shaktar. I see some parallels with Lindelof last season. Came from a weaker league, needed time to adapt to a stronger, faster league, new country, new language, new team mates, and all on limited opportunities. Lindelof struggled but this season has done much much better and since November has become a key part of the team. Can Fred do the same?

I agree on Pereira I think he's off come July and he'll be mid table in Spain or Italy. McTom can go either way. He has something but he needs regular minutes to develop.


4.) 09 Feb 2019 17:30:40
There’s clearly a good player in there, he has pace and skills but for whatever reason he hasn’t settled and looks lost on the pitch. He needs game time and hopefully he will find his feet.


5.) 09 Feb 2019 17:47:41
Could it be that, as with the others, Mourinho kept the shackles on him?
A very strict defensive midfield role and he now needs time to bring out the rest of his game? He has 3 good players to learn from and play alongside.


6.) 09 Feb 2019 17:52:25
Was he really good at Shaktar? I’ve never watched a Shaktar game, so all I have to go on is YouTube clips which are about as reliable as a scally asking for a look at your phone.

With Lindelof, you could see that it was a player struggling with the physicality of the EPL, but still performing really well at the international level. With Fred, there isn’t just one issue. In fact, I struggle to see what he’s good at. He isn’t slow, but I wouldn’t describe him as pacey. As for skill, his control is suspect, and first touch is genuinely awful, meaning that he isn’t particularly well suited to a fast passing game. I’ve watched him since the start of the season, and I still don’t get his purpose in the squad.

{Ed001's Note - I watched a bunch of Shakhtar games when I did a player profile on him and I honestly cannot understand why you bought him. He was dreadful in every one. The difference being that he was given acres of space and time on the ball there, so his boots being trampolines was not an issue.}


7.) 10 Feb 2019 04:30:37
I meant McTomminay by the way.


 

 

31 Jan 2019 14:16:06
Best of luck to Fellaini.

Not a player who fans wanted to sign, but always gave his best for the team. Unfairly criticised for issues that were more to do with our managers' attacking ineptitude. Glad to see him getting a last big paycheque in China.


1.) 31 Jan 2019 14:21:11
Good luck to him as he always gave his all.


2.) 31 Jan 2019 15:33:07
Totally agree, Danny. Never gave less than 100%, and scored some crucial goals for us. Some of the abuse directed at him when he was playing, was embarrassing.


3.) 31 Jan 2019 18:03:07
Delighted he is gone. Should never have been signed.
He never gave less than 100% and seems like a decent bloke but he is not the style of player that should have been at united imo and no united team should ever play a style that suits fellainis best attributes.


4.) 31 Jan 2019 18:34:31
Jose type player not a ole ot united type.


5.) 31 Jan 2019 19:09:56
Agreed. Never was the right player for us but always tried his best, apparently a good lad and scored some vital goals for us on the way. Congrats on the move and enjoy the big $$$.


 

 

25 Nov 2018 16:34:15
Thing that stands out this season is that our form drops after international breaks. This could simply be the result of tired players, but it seems more like frustration at coming back to the club set up.

Take Rashford and Lingard, for example, they're playing in an attacking national side in important roles, and do well. Then, they're back here, with 10 men behind the ball, and they're crap. In contrast, Spurs's English player carry their international form into the next game, and in Ali's case step up to try to win their place back. For me, it's a clear case of our player's preferring playing in the international setups, and that's down to Jose, particularly with his unnecessary comments this week.

I doubt we will finish top four this season, so Jose is done. The question is do we rush into an appointment mid-term, put someone temporary in place, or keep Jose until May to give us more time to bring in the right replacement?


1.) 25 Nov 2018 17:39:38
Get rid asap, we need to just right this season off and allow someone new to get a feel of what he needs i the summer, rather than continuing this circus of employing someone to spend a year dealing with the failings of the previous manger. Maybe if we get rid of Jose we maybe able to convince our better want away players from leaving and fingers crossed stop the club giving players like young valencia jones and smalling new contracts.


2.) 25 Nov 2018 17:42:05
All depends on the appointment of a dof.
If one is put in place soon then will jose work them? Will he want to work with who ever it is and will the new dof want Jose.
I was all for Jose to sort it out but after yesterday I don't see how he can turn things around without selling a lot and bringing in alot.
I think he will see out the season then will be on his way hopefully by then the people who need to will have a plan in place and we can start to carry that out.


3.) 25 Nov 2018 17:44:28
I’d sack him let carrick have till end of season give players a lift bring some confidence back anything is better than this .


4.) 25 Nov 2018 18:05:11
A DOF is designed to be an intermediary between the manager and owners, they do nothing to help the relationship between Jose and the players. A DOF is essential for long term transfer planning, but the more immediate issue is the players aren’t performing for Jose, and we’re slipping further and further away from competing for trophies.


5.) 25 Nov 2018 18:44:14
Its a tough one. My heart says sack him asap. But my head isn't so sure.

On one hand it clearly isn't going to get better with Jose, he is on the downward trajectory with our club like he seems to get into at every club in his third season. So it seems like a case of when not if to sack Jose.

If we sack him now, what happens next? Well we either appoint a permanent manager or a temporary manager until the end of the season. The problem here is the club are actively looking for a DoF, and it makes more sense if the next permanent appointment is made by the DoF, who will have to work closely with the new manager. So maybe appointing a temporary manager is best. Then you have to decide does that come from in house or outside? In house knows the players and the situation so maybe best placed to solve those issues (although they could also be part of the problem) . However, what happens when the next permanent appointment is made is the temporary manager happy to go back to his old role, or even a different role within the club. We saw how Giggs wasn't happy to stay after Mourinho's appointment. We could lose an excellent coach or potential future manager in McKenna or Carrick if they are given temporary charge then asked to step back into old roles or similar lesser roles.

So there are serious concerns with who you replace Jose with both short term and long term, and that doesn't even take into consideration about who is making these appointments and their less than stella past record of managerial appointments.

So do we stick with Jose and give us some time to find a DoF, then at the end of the season let him go and let the new DoF make his appointment. I would expect that there are clauses in any severance pay tied in to UCL qualification, so the club could save some money if we finish 5th or lower when removing the manager. We have seen with the last two sackings that failure to get UCL qualification was the key moment in deciding their fate, or at least so it seemed. This may seem like the better plan.

However, we may lose some key players if they aren't happy with Jose and the club stick with him until the end of the season. Also is not qualifying for the UCL a good plan? Also how long will it take to appoint a DoF, if an appointment is forth coming then it could be months. Or even into next season before we fill the role. Can we wait off that long? Also would a new DoF be happy with having to recruit a new manager as their first task in taking the role. Surely they will want to spend some time adjust to the club and understanding the dynamics and the people they will have to work with. Give them a chance of hiring a man who they can work with and who fits in with the club and what the club needs.

Which might mean it could be better to severe ties with Jose sooner and get in someone on a temporary basis. Giving us the best chance of UCL qualification, giving the club breathing space to hire the right DoF, and giving that DoF a chance to understand the club before they make a permanent appointment.

So the decision probably should be do we go with a McKenna/ Carrick combo or do we bring someone in from outside the club? Either option there is a risk that Carrick/ McKenna could feel slighted and eventually leave.


6.) 25 Nov 2018 19:01:45
Carrick and McKenna are part of why we are playing so poorly? Why promote them?


7.) 25 Nov 2018 20:48:05
Shappy

We need stability until there is DOF

However, if we make a change, we should offer Wenger a chance until the end of the season. Sorry if that isn’t popular but we must have time to plan.


8.) 25 Nov 2018 21:08:15
To plan for what? His 35 consecutive season without a title?

Wenger is another spent force. You’d think after van Gaal, and now Jose, we’d stop trying to resuscitate yesterday’s men.


9.) 25 Nov 2018 21:28:16
So if we just sign a DOF everythi g will be ok?

People said once over all we needed was a Cm bought 3
We needed a cb, bought 2
We needed a creative player bought 2 .
But if we just get a DOF he will fix everything and 100% do a good job.

{Ed025's Note - i dont think a DOF would be an option at this stage jred, it has to be 2 people who can work together as a team and i dont see jose taking kindly to someone telling him who and when he can buy as hes just not that type of guy, he likes full control thats just the way he works, maybe january will tell us where the club is heading mate..


10.) 25 Nov 2018 21:33:55
What about our current situation screams stability to you? We have a fan base divided, a squad of players where half want to leave, and general discord running throughout the club. The media is having a field day taking daily shots at us. We appear to be on a clear downward trajectory. Just to put it into perspective we are having a worst season than Moyes had.

I wouldn't be against Wenger on a short term deal. He knows the league, plays good football and wouldn't be the worst short term solution.

Plus it would be a real poke in the eye for Mourinho. lol.


11.) 25 Nov 2018 22:19:27
People seem to want to compare Moyes season to this one, Get real, We were the previous season champions and I remember some of those now moaning about Mourinho were ones telling me that because we won the league by 11 points it was too much for any other team to make up so Moyes could not fail.
It is where you end the season that matters.


12.) 25 Nov 2018 22:46:51
Ed
I agree.
Redman
I remember you saying you wanted moyes sacked before a ball was kicked and that you wouldn't back .
Yet you get upset if people question our current manager .

Do you not mean people should back Redman opinion?


13.) 25 Nov 2018 22:56:53
By the way I think fergys biggest achievement was winning the title with that team .

I think we have better players now than cleverly and co but fergy won it by 11 points.


14.) 25 Nov 2018 23:35:13
People talk about Sir Alex winning his final league title and Moyes inheriting that side as if Moyes had an easier time than Jose.

Let's get this straight, Jose took his own title winning side at Chelsea to the point of being in the relegation zone in December the following season.

So let's not suggest success last season means success this season.

Also as many have pointed out, sir Alex's last title winning squad was probably the weakest winning squad in our history. I remember better United sides finishing second on more than one occasion.


15.) 26 Nov 2018 06:50:50
Jred

I was very clear about Moyes, not before a ball was kicked, as you keep peddling, but when there was a rumour before he was even announced.

I don’t get upset as you put it when people question our manager, given performances that is understandable. However that isn’t what is happening, nearly every post, every comment is sack him, yet we have no direction as a club, so it would mean another Woodward appointment and off we go again. There will be 5 managers players in the team and the problems permeating the club plus attitude of players will still be there. No one can be happy right now but I feel the answer is not always sack the manager. Maybe many years of being a manager plus a stint as a football one, even brief and low level, gives me some empathy towards Mourinho who is getting pelted from everywhere. He has the cv unlike Moyes and therefore having lived through the post Busby years, want to give him as much chance as reasonable. That is not upset but I have as much right to defend the manager as you do to criticise him.


16.) 26 Nov 2018 09:06:54
Redman
Stop with the silly posts, I'm managing now . So what
It gives you some empathy towards Jose but you wanted moyes sacked before a ball was kicked .
It double standard after double standard .
Take a step back and listen to yourself.


17.) 26 Nov 2018 09:50:06
Red Man, how can your experience give you empathy for one manager and not another?

In my mind I have more empathy for a manager who was thrown in at the deep end without the relative experience then slated for not being able to do a job he clearly never had the ability to do. Than a manager who has the experience but through his own bloody mindedness has the team performing poorly because of his refusal to adapt to the situation.


18.) 26 Nov 2018 10:58:06
It's going round in circles, I find it hard to lay the blame for moyes and lvg term in charge at there feet then excuses Jose and lay the blame with woods or the board or no DOF which I think is being massively overplayed .
I'm not sure many on here actually understand what a DOF does or who is currently making the decisions a DOF if appointed would .
Maybe if we had pep or poch and the team was playing well people wouldn't be talking about lack of investment lack of ambition . After all we have one of the highest transfer spends in world football over the last few year . Have the 3rd largest wage bill in world football the highest in EPL.

Maybe people are right and the club is that badly run and lack so much ambition that it is impossible for any manager to do well at the club .
We should accept that players like Fred pogba matic Shaw ddg martial lukaku rash linders Mata are just average players incapable of playing attractive football or to any standard .


19.) 26 Nov 2018 18:14:57
Shappy

I had sympathy for Moyes because he was appointed when very clearly he was not remotely qualified for the job and his cv told us that. It was utterly obvious before the appointment, so part of me had sympathy for someone who was so clearly going to fail. I have empathy for Mourinho and his cv does have the requisite skills and medals.

Jred
Maybe you haven’t had to work at a strategic level, so whilst I have not been a DOF, I believe I might have a good guess at one does.

Players get away with poor performances, they are responsible for poor performances, the manager is accountable. I would show some the door in January, make an example, because if they win and the manager goes before some of them, we will only be putting the problems back a few months.


20.) 26 Nov 2018 21:10:28
Redman
Maybe I have?
You may belive you know . That doesn't really mean you do .

It doesn't sound one bit like you do tho .
What you would do means very little to be honest .


 

 

03 Nov 2018 16:07:13
Good win today.

But one minor note, after watching Fred for the last few months, is Herrera better at the Fred role than Fred?

{Ed001's Note - my mother is better than Fred at the Fred role, unless the Fred role is making Lukaku look like a player with first class control? I actually just uploaded a player profile on Fred as I have been watching a fair bit of him lately, just waiting for Ed033 to put the links up but early peek for you Danny: Fred profile


1.) 03 Nov 2018 16:17:11
The fall was pretty great.

Honestly, I’m still looking for reasons why Pep and Jose were after him too. Even if his control wasn’t so poor, I can’t see what he’s really good at as a player. Nothing stands out, positively, about his game. Herrera is much much better than him, so why waste the £50m when a top class cb would have made a way bigger difference to our season?

{Ed001's Note - I honestly can't explain it. I keep looking to see something in him and just can't either. I like to give things a player is good at as well as weaknesses, but I was reaching for something that wasn't there with Fred!}


2.) 03 Nov 2018 16:30:45
A lot on the page seem to rate but at this point I'm still not sure . Early days tho.


3.) 03 Nov 2018 16:43:46
I think it was ed2 who said Fred was a waste of money at 50m and we should have waited a bit longer in the summer and could have gotten better. It is a rarity that ed2 posts about anyone but when he does they are usually spot on. So another poor bit of business from us it looks.
I genuinely believe one of the major reason for us buying him was to stop City getting their target.

{Ed001's Note - you would have been better paying the 50m to ensure City got him!}


4.) 03 Nov 2018 16:50:47
Seems true Esq. But maybe the Messiah would work his magic with Fred too and he will be the best thing since slice bread.

As you are doing profiles can I request some more ed1? Vecino and Brozovic from Inter.

Thanks.

{Ed001's Note - of course mate always glad to have more to do. Gives me an excuse to watch games.}


5.) 03 Nov 2018 17:08:07
Ed, if you don't mind, what is your take on Herrera as a player, and if assuming he is better than Fred, why not to play him.

Ed002 mentioned last year that there was some issue with josse, was this sorted out?

Thanks in an advance.

{Ed001's Note - I like Herrera, he has that bit of devil about him you need, though he goes down a little too easy for my liking. He is very good at breaking up play and getting forward in support.}


6.) 03 Nov 2018 17:15:44
Interesting points ed. Personally I quite like the fact that fred is looking to play forward. You are right though that he misplaces far too many passes. I’m not going to give up on him just yet. I think there is a player there but I agree that he hasn’t been great. Would you please be able to do a profile on lautaro Martinez of inter? Think he could be very special. Thanks.

{Ed001's Note - added him to the list mate.}


7.) 03 Nov 2018 17:37:55
Much appreciated ed.

{Ed001's Note - very welcome mate.}


8.) 03 Nov 2018 18:28:35
Thanks Ed.

Would profile on Herrera be possible as well?

Thanks.

{Ed001's Note - added him to the list.}


9.) 03 Nov 2018 20:13:06
Actually Inter have a decent team. Some very talented bunch of players and I think Spaletti is quite good too. They beat Genoa 5_0 today and Gagliardini scored 2 goals. Have you seen much of him ed1 and what do you make of him. I like the looks of him from the very limited times I have seen but not seen that much.

{Ed001's Note - I haven't seen much of him at all. Inter's problem was they had a good team but it was not working as a team. Lots of good individuals players but no plan to harness them. Spaletti is very good at getting players to play together usually, from what I have seen, so they should be right in the mix.}


10.) 04 Nov 2018 06:52:18
Agree deependra I can see inter and Napoli fighting it out for second place. Politano has really surprised me this season. And their defence of de vrij and skriniar is extremely strong. De vrij on a free in the summer should have been an option for us. Although I do have concerns about his pace.


 

 

07 Oct 2018 10:26:37
One of the biggest take homes from yesterday is that we came back into the game when Mata played centrally. With Mata as a playmaker, we started playing at a faster pace, and he brought other players into the game. This is unsurprising because his best form was there for Chelsea before Jose came back.

I would love to see Mata given a more prominent role alongside Pogba and Matic in the centre. This would help us speed up our play in the attacking third, and help Pogba to make some driving runs. The issue is that it took absolute desperation for Jose to put him there. For me, a player with Mata's quickness of thought and passing could be the key to our attack. But only if he isn't playing with two holding players. We have the ingredients to play attacking football, but they are not being used correctly.

As a side note, if you spend the summer publicly stating that your central defenders aren't good enough, you can't be surprised if they lack confidence, look indecisive, and start making mistakes. We have the same back line as last season, the difference is that their confidence is shot.


1.) 07 Oct 2018 11:11:53
Danny, spot on. Our defence only conceded one more goal that City last year yet all Summer they have been told they aren’t good enough. Players can be fragile, constantly being told we need a new CB, regularly being rotated, does not build confidence. If someone tells you often enough you are crap, you will start believing it.


2.) 07 Oct 2018 12:03:01
Or if your boss challenges you and calls you out for being poor you knuckle down and improve if you have the right character AJH.
I know some people don't like hearing the truth and don't like being called out in public but he has been doing that for years it works sometimes. Players shouldn't be so touchy and sensitive. Just bust your ass to prove him wrong like shaw has done.
To that ooint i agree with ferdinand and scholes jose shouldn't be so touchy when he is critisised.

I think his point on rashford and mctom yesterday was that as young players all the press digs at the team had a negative effect on them and they looked scared to play. I think he has a valid point. They are young lads who are going through a lot of negative coverage for the first time and they are not reacting well to it. So jose was pointing out that fact. Nothing wrong with it imo. He was saying that the 'manhunt' as he calls it is causing some of the younger players issues. He is mature enough to deal with it as are some of the players others are not. I don't see it as a dig at the 2 players. But people are looking at it negatively to sensationalise a fair analysis of why he felt they were below par.
Taken out of context or if your negatively disposed towards the manager it can easily be twisted to make a negative headline or gossip point.


3.) 07 Oct 2018 12:10:12
To be fair I believed our centre backs were crap before Jose told us.


4.) 07 Oct 2018 12:10:14
Agreed Danny, but i thought Matic played well last year until the last two months, so he shielded the defence. Agree on Mata, but i thought Pogba was the difference when he was allowed a free role. Also, it shows how well Martial can play and how Rashford has gone backwards.
Rashford, was so frustrating, making wrong decisions and missing two guilt edged chances. But he'll learn as he's young. I feel we need a specialized attack coach to develop our front line and work on finishing.
We cannot get carried away. This was Newcastle United, they've got two points and are looking like relegation candidates. Yet, they made us look poor in the first 30mins. Our defence tactically was pure shambles. The first goal was Sunday league and complete amateur defending from the whole team.
Mctominay is an average midfielder at best, he's not even good enough to play for United in midfield, but to play him as cb in two matches, was non sensical.
But loved the way the team was allowed freedom in the 2nd half. As you say, it took desperation for Mourinho to let this happen, which is frustrating.


5.) 07 Oct 2018 12:25:28
Ken, i could not disagree more with you on this point. Mctominay and Rashford were both useless yesterday, and in my opinion, Mctominay should not be anywhere near our first team, he simply is not good enough, will he make City, liverpool, Real, Barcelona first teams?
However, for Mourinho to single them out in the after match conference is the worst man management i have seen in any walk of life. It does not help in any shape or form.
Matic, Smalling were complete waste of time too, so should Mourinho have attacked them as well, and add Bailly to that list too. It is not a matter of being critisized, but there's a constructive way of doing it, and Mourinho's methods are not working.


6.) 07 Oct 2018 13:10:15
Each yo their own AAA. I as an ex employee and when playing sport preferred to be man managed the way jose does it and its my preferred style as an employer.
It got the best out of me and it gets the best out of everybody in our company.
I well aware it doesn't keep people happy all the time but that's life.
I understand why its not for everybody and why some can be offended by it as i say each to their own.


7.) 07 Oct 2018 17:38:56
Ken - It's down to having respect for your boss. He is damaging their careers, making work uncomfortable for them. If your boss is in the public eye speaking nonsense or throwing you under the bus publicly then it is going to effect how you think of him.

I have worked under some great bosses and I was a great employee in return. However for the brief instances I worked under poor bosses I either stood my ground or if I didn't think it worth the time/ energy I moved elsewhere.

If you don't respect your boss then it's hard to bite your tongue if you have anything about you. Footballers don't have the luxury of walking out like most people do.

I'm also old school in my management thinking - anyone gives me lip they are out the door (unless they are right) . It doesn't work nowadays for the most part, especially in the current snowflake social media culture we are surrounded by.


8.) 08 Oct 2018 06:54:35
I am with Ken on two points in the last couple of posts. First that our centre halves are more exposed this season because the full backs push up more. SAF built his teams on two strong centre halves who could cope one on one. Our central defenders get out of position and do not dominate any attack. Second point is about Mctominay and Rashford, which I made on the other page yesterday. He was making a point that the hounding of our manager and our club is making young players nervous. Likely trying to make some realise it is damaging people other than the manager. It is why it is difficult to put young players into any team that is struggling but even more so at one the size of ours plus the added pressure of the present witch hunt.

There are different management styles but people miss the point that being a leader, can mean a different style again and great leaders (and I am not saying Jose is great) are not always sweetness and light.


9.) 08 Oct 2018 12:00:26
Bang on redman.


 

 

 

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06 Feb 2019 12:54:40
Ummmm GDS, you do realise that in FIFA seasons, players stamina bar won’t be full if you play them in more than one game in a week, so that’s, eh, like science bro.


 

 

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10 Jan 2019 21:10:32
We paid over £50m for Fred, makes Wilson for £50m look like a bargain.


 

 

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18 Nov 2018 22:22:26
Easily get two more seasons out of him. Perfect signing, would be amazing influence for Bailey and Lindelof.


 

 

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26 Oct 2018 16:15:40
I think you need to separate your dislike for Jose from the broader issues at the club. Personally, I would not have extended Jose’s contract, and made sure that this year was spent identifying and securing a top quality replacement.

However, the analysis of our finances highlights how the increased revenue generated over the last few season has, primarily, been used to service the owner’s debts. The club’s focus has been on securing off field deals, and this obviously has a knock on effect for our on field performances. The point is that club is a long way behind City and other top European sides. Regardless of who is at the helm, it is very difficult to close the gap unless the owners change their priorities.


 

 

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26 Oct 2018 14:37:17
There are a number of questions. But after reading the source ed001 recommended on United’s finances, my main question is can United, under any manager, get to level that they can compete with City when the owners are focused on securing sponsorship deals to service their debts?

Just because Jose is trying to deflect attention away from his failings doesn’t mean he doesn’t have a point.


 

 

 

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16 Feb 2019 10:59:30
If Ole doesn’t stick Herrera on Jorginho, he’s doing it wrong. Once you disrupt him, the entire Chelsea game plan goes to pieces.


 

 

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13 Feb 2019 15:30:29
Really? You’d swap,

Bernat for Shaw
Draxler for Pogba
Alves for Lingard
Di Maria for Martial.


 

 

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13 Feb 2019 15:23:16
GDS, in the second half it was clear that having Mata and Sanchez on the wings wasn’t working. We had no width, our attacking play became congested, and their fbs could press higher. This allowed them to control possession. This isn’t down to Sanchez and Mata being significantly worse than Martial and Lingard, it’s down to a poor tactical decision.

After the first goal, when we were being penned back in our half, the obvious solution was to bring on Lukaku, shifting Rash to the left, Lukaku to the right, and having Sanchez playing as a false 9 like Lingard did at Spurs. One of Pogba, Herrera and Matic would have to be sacrificed (mostly because it would be unfair to sub Mata) . But this would have given us a much better chance of dragging their defence out of position and getting back some control over the game. Ole didn’t do this, and they dominated the rest of the game.


 

 

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13 Feb 2019 13:57:26
We got done, and Ole made a poor tactical decision in bringing both Mata and Sanchez on. This ensured that we had no width, allowing their fbs to push higher up, and giving them control over possession. The bigger problem is that Ole did nothing to address this after we went behind. He looked lost, and his inexperience at the very top level of management showed.

Lesson is that it’s perfectly fine to lead with a - let the players express themselves and play the way they want - mentality. But at the very top level this isn’t enough, and the manager needs to be tactically astute enough to respond to the circumstances in a particular game. Tunchel did this, Ole did not.


 

 

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12 Feb 2019 17:31:36
Don’t see it at all GDS, looks like a player struggling to play anywhere near the level he used to. Doesn’t have the pace to stretch defences like Martial, Lingard, and Rashford, and doesn’t have the passing range or presence to play further down the pitch. Can see him leaving in the summer.