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14 May 2018 23:22:44
Love all the people who support the manager, but not the team, the players, ethos or tradition of the club.

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14 May 2018 23:36:10
I support the club but the players to an extent. Too many of these players look like they don't give a toss about the club. Back when we had feegie you could see what Utd meant to the likes of evra, vidic, Ferdinand etc. One thing I hated about when we first spent big is that well now be seen as a place to come just to earn big $$$, not based on wanting to play for Utd and we can already see that in the lacksture performances of some players.

14 May 2018 23:41:20
Actually been embarassing reading some of the posts lately. Some people need to get their heads out of their arses. No wonder we have been labelled toxic with some of the tripe I've read in the last 2 weeks.

14 May 2018 23:50:50
Nobody said they support the manager and not the club/ players etc. Just because someone has a different opinion or supports the idea of giving the manager another year, doesn’t mean they don’t support the club. I seem to remember you saying further down the page that you don’t care who we sign as you don’t think it would make a difference. Doesn’t sound like supporting the club to me.

15 May 2018 07:33:58
Exactly Park, I support the club. The manager is a transient employee as are the players but I will stand by what seems the best for the club.

James, you should try reading live chat, it’s tame on here compared to live chat.

15 May 2018 07:35:40
Your right tumours. Your right park.

15 May 2018 08:42:33
The ethos and traditions of the club are the most important thing, they are what makes us Manchester United. And they should be defended at all costs, even if that means sacrificing short term success to protect what in effect the club really is.

The players, the manager and the staff are just passing through. Some will be remembered for the right reasons others for the wrong ones the rest will mostly be forgotten about. But the club will remain.

I think most people have the clubs best interest at heart, we just differ on what we think is best for the club. One parent believes in one method of discipline for their child, another has a different idea on discipline. We can debate which one is right and which is wrong, but both love their kids and are doing what they think is best.

Some of us feel Jose is the best person to manage us at this time and feel he needs more time, while others feel he isn't going to succeed in the medium to long term and will create more issues that will need resolving when he does leave.

I fall into the latter category, I don't think he has the best intentions for the club just himself. He doesn't buy into the ethos of history of the club. For that reason I don't think he is a good fit for us, even though we will likely pick up a few cups under him.

For me the club is about fight and flair, a cavalier attitude, an expressive and expansive style of football and youth being given a chance (and not just to play the odd game, but to be allowed to make mistakes then grow and learn from them) . I don't see any of that under Jose. Since Sir Alex we have constantly gone for the experienced manager, or as I have come to see them yesterday's men. If we want to build for the future we need tomorrow's man to do it.

15 May 2018 09:27:34
Tip top post Park and Trumours. It just feels like some people want Jose to fail so they can they say they knew it all. Some on here pretend they knoq it all but hey there is a reason why we are diacussing football and Jose is Managing the club.

Have some respect and back the Manager and not be negative and wait for him to fail.

15 May 2018 09:41:54
Totally agree Shappy. His ego goes before the club and his players. People can criticise the players all they like, but he's the manager, he's the one guiding them, motivating them, advising them, if they are failing, it's because of him.

What annoys me the most is how easily commentators pick apart Mourinho's tactics, they are watching the games and are bewildered by his choices, his approach and come up with easy solutions.

My other concern is financial. With this boring football and our reliance on the international market and picking up further fans in new markets, how is our tedious football going to attract new fans in the long run? Winning trophies doesn't override this, who went on to support Greece after their boring Euro victory in 2004?

15 May 2018 10:03:26
It annoys me LovelyLudwigVan or whatever, when these commentators try management themselves and suck at it.
Also some commentators that haven't kicked a ball in there life, or done a good days training and have literally no idea what goes on on the training pitch.

15 May 2018 11:44:32
I've no problem with a manager having a go at a player that's playing week in week out.
But putting a player on for an odd game here and there and then singling him out and having a go at him is stupid carry on.
I'm not a big fan of Luke Shaw but the manager puts him on and then has a go at him in public.
If he is not what you want call him in to your office and tell him.
Now he had a few words with pogba and rightly so. he could have a few more words with him.
For me Jose isn't a fit for United.

15 May 2018 11:48:21
Ahh Shappy, just imagine yourself in a Liverpool fan's shoes when you say that sacrifice trophies for entertainment. 25 years is it? We came, we saw, we won, we outclassed them, went downhill and are on the up again and they are still. what's the word. "entertaining".

It doesn't have to be mutually exclusive, what we need right now is a couple of pieces to fall into place and we can still be entertaining like Jose's Real and Chelsea were.

15 May 2018 13:11:22
FZZ, I'm talking about the ex-football pundits, the likes of Dixon, Le Saux or Townsend, just because they haven't managed, does not mean they do not understand the basic workings of the game. Dixon is actually, surprisingly, quite fair when it comes to United, he acknowledges their pros and points out their flaws, but it's too easy for him to notice obvious problems in the tactical approach (ie. playing narrow against a tight West Brom defence, who cares if he's managed or not, that is just basic stuff) .

United Addict, I'd be interested to see who is gathering the most attention abroad between the tedious football or United or the entertaining football of Liverpool. I currently live in France and teach sports students, they are all enthusiastic about Liverpool and don't have much good to say about United, bar hoping Pogba and Martial do well. It's these kinds of things that can be damaging in the long run, especially in terms of foreign income and investments, which seem a priority in today's game.

15 May 2018 14:48:01
LovelyLudwigVan i am not sure on that because i am sure nobody in India (where i come from) had heard of a team called Leicester City until they won the title and i can now vouch for at least a 100 folks who watch them week in week out. What type of football did Leicester play? let's talk about Chelsea too from last season, was their football any better than what we played this season?

As i said, entertainment and results don't have to be mutually exclusive. But for a CD player to play proper music, it needs to have all its parts functioning properly/ perfectly. You can't expect to listen to a symphony if one of the speakers has its wire lose or the disc reader isn't working as it should. Its up to the manager to make sure they work or replace the parts which i am sure our manager is trying. He is expected to put the CD in the reader and let the music play but with malfucntioning parts, the music will be painful which our football has been last season.



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