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17 Dec 2017 13:57:21
Man Utd want Jonny Evans back.


1.) 17 Dec 2017 14:43:38
Not happening.

2.) 17 Dec 2017 20:33:45
Better than Smalling, Jones, probably on par Lindelof and Rojo.

3.) 17 Dec 2017 21:20:23
Probably pay £30m and throw in Lindelof.

4.) 17 Dec 2017 21:43:47
I think he is probably better than all bar Bailly so I could see why he is being linked. That said when fit Jones has been excellent of late.

Personally I wouldn't look to bring Evans back. I'd sell Smalling and Rojo who can be liabilities with the ball at their feet, and both have a tendency to switch off or suffer from brain farts at vital moments. I would then go all in for Laporte. Laporte and Bailly would be a great duo, with Lindelof, Jones and Tuanzebe covering. Or play three at the back in which case chuck one of Jones, Lindelof or Tuanzebe in with Bailly and Laporte.

5.) 17 Dec 2017 18:14:07
Quite happy if he came back but not sure he’s really required as we are well covered there. Mids, full back need strengthening.

6.) 18 Dec 2017 10:28:54
Shouldn't have been sold IMO. Although he was quite injury prone. Not sure bringing him back now is of any use though. I think that ship has sailed and we should focus on what we have.

More of an issue is having a more creative outlet. I can see Jose focusing on another attacking midfielder or/ and a winger. Our issue isn't defending goals, it's the other end and keeping the foot on the gas. We need a more direct player who is going to give more service. I don't want to see lukaku coming outside that box looking for the ball, I want to see him receive balls into the box aplenty because he will score. He doesn't make any contribution when coming outside that box, so we need him to get more service when he is in it.

7.) 18 Dec 2017 13:21:44
Decent player but got absolute dogs abuse on here when he played for us, one of the 'deadwood' we needed to rid the team of. Amazing how players who play for other clubs are better than what we have.



17 Dec 2017 13:54:36
Rumour has it, the scuffle which happened between Utd and City after the match last week was sparked by the City players chanting "park the bus" over and over like the fans during the game.

Also a video came out after the Spurs game of the same chanting.


1.) 17 Dec 2017 16:12:37
I hope that's true. May give the players and manager some extra motivation.



30 May 2017 18:00:33
greizmann handed transfer request in or is it bull pony?


1.) 30 May 2017 18:39:42
Is he a respected journo?

2.) 30 May 2017 19:37:54
My mate Bernard has a daughter who works the company which supplies United shirt numbers and they have just put in a large order for the letters Z, N and the number 7, apparently they have not seen an order this large for the letter Z since the days of Kuszczak, Tevez and Heinze.

3.) 30 May 2017 20:05:08
We clearly are signing zidane then grim is not dead? i liked jose, but in zidane we trust now.

4.) 30 May 2017 20:12:55
We are clearly signing zaza to take penaltys and there's 2 z' s in his name. see I solved it.

5.) 30 May 2017 20:53:32
Oh no! Zaha is coming back!

6.) 30 May 2017 21:37:43
Not getting the sarcasm tbh.

7.) 30 May 2017 22:55:14
Haha. Kuszczak could have been spelled zzzzzzzz and we'd still only have needed a handful of z's in the club shop.

8.) 30 May 2017 23:21:05
That's what they all had on their shirts under LVG wasn't it?

9.) 31 May 2017 00:01:26
my dog is friends with a cat that is freinds with a swallow that is mates with a swift who flys to spain every year to eat the snails on athleticos pitch and the news from him is wait and see.

10.) 31 May 2017 04:16:52
Yeah, and funny that we sold a ton of shirts last season with a Striker whose name started with Z and ended with an N. May be Zlatan is staying after all.

11.) 31 May 2017 08:53:51
Shan, Zlatan had IBRAHIMOVIC on the back of his shirt. All season. No Z's or N's there my friend.

12.) 31 May 2017 12:59:23
I think he's a striker for Atletico Madrid WRD :)



21 Apr 2017 17:58:28
Zlatan out for rest of season.




13 Mar 2017 17:43:55
Rashford travelled down to London separate.





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01 Feb 2018 19:14:49
So everyone here rates our back 4 from last night?

2 midfielders and 2 shambles of defenders.


1.) 01 Feb 2018 21:38:30
How many goals have we conceded this year? Shambles.

2.) 01 Feb 2018 21:53:43
How many times they get found out by good sides.
Arsenal had 30 odd shots, there crap finishing saved us.
City walked through them.

3.) 01 Feb 2018 20:39:19
How many did we score last night.

4.) 01 Feb 2018 20:52:45
Part of the reason pogba isn't suited to a 2 man midfield. with that lot behind them.

5.) 01 Feb 2018 20:58:46
I know we've got a good defensive record, But against the Top teams We struggle, Fergie thought Jones and Smalling, would take over from Rio and Vidic, But nowhere near that standard, they make too many mistakes and not really comfortable with the ball at their feet, as it showed when Spurs pressed them last night, As for the 2 fullbacks, Fergie bought them as attacking wide players, Valencia to replace Ronaldo (Yeah), They are not able to defend when put under pressure, they'll get pulled around in the Champions league, it's just not their instinct to read trouble, We wouldn't of been happy with Giggs and Beckham fullbacks, I know the game as changed but uve got to be able to defend, That 4 won't win you Big Trophies.

6.) 01 Feb 2018 22:56:46
So pogba struggles because he can only play in a midfield 3, the players around him are not good enough and that lot behind him?
Should maybe get a player who can play well regardless Leahy?

The fact is our defensive record is pretty good even if our defenders haven't got fancy names .

Our cm yesterday was terrible, not bad players but very poor .

Switch it around maybe they struggled with that lit in front of them?
Even tho they cost a lot of money and have fancy names they never played well yesterday .
Probably Tony fault, because he use to be a winger and been at the club a while .
Pogba subbed after an hour and getting a bollocking on the pitch .
Jose saying today Sanchez never played or done what he was asked?
First time since he come to the EPL he never had a shot in a game? Strange stat .

Team game tho, average day at the office move on .

7.) 01 Feb 2018 23:25:39
The defence against weak times is fine but we are not wanting to be judged against them. When it comes to the top teams we are consistently found out in midfield and defence. (Arsenal are not a top team) . Against Liverpool we resorted to parking the bus. This is not the Utd way. Against Spurs last night we should have lost by three or four.

Our midfield does not dominate against against the too teams and this obviously puts pressure onto our defence. Smalling is not good enough. Tony V is not and never will be a top right back although I admire his work ethic and professionalism. Jones has the potential but by now should be consistently reliable. He is not.

Luke Shaw is good enough and needs to be left to make the position his own. City just bought Laporte. He is a top defender. Walker is a top defender. City spent big and have a very solid base. When our defensive basis is really solid and we find a counterpoint for Pogba then we will fight them.

8.) 01 Feb 2018 23:59:37
In the summer there was big long thread on here about aurier being the best right back in the epl .

People don't always appriciate what they have and any fancy name is better.

9.) 02 Feb 2018 08:44:15
Defence has overall been quite food this year.

Jerd, relevance of the goals scored against spurs when criticising the defence?

10.) 02 Feb 2018 09:54:53
Because our cm and attack had a pretty off day .
But people are obsessed with having a go at the same players .
Excuses after excuses for a fancy name but the moment a player like Jones (who has been very good ) has one iffy game he is thrown under the bus .

11.) 02 Feb 2018 10:02:51
I find it funny how people slate Valencia for being a former midfielder, yet I expect everyone would jump at the chance to sign David Alaba to sort out our left back problem. Who himself is a former midfielder.

Many players switch positions throughout their career, sometimes it is to adapt to a change in their ability such as losing pace, sometimes it to adapt to a change in the footballing landscape. Like playing a winger as a wing back to accommodate a formation change or a shift in football tactics.

Many great full backs were wingers earlier in their careers, Roberto Carlos and Dani Alves as obvious options. Some full backs move the other way, take Lahm for example moving into midfield in his thirties.

Valencia since he has adjusted to the full back position has consistently been one of the best right backs in the league over a 4-5 year period. Yes occasionally he makes a mistake like all footballers do every weekend, I don't think it's fair to blame every mistake he makes on him having previously been a winger.

I don't think any of the criticism is fair to be honest. In a world of money grabbing footballers Valencia has shown great loyalty. He had a serious injury, he fought hard to come back from that, was then asked to change his position and rather than sulking he just got on with it, and worked hard. He never gives less than 100% for the club and he even sacked his agent citing he had no need for one as he doesn't want to leave the club.

He should be one of the few players we aren't critical of.

12.) 02 Feb 2018 10:21:39
Good post but Tony has been at the club a while and people are a bit bored off him.

13.) 02 Feb 2018 10:26:42
jred, one iffy game?

14.) 02 Feb 2018 11:01:03
Jred if its any consolation, and it helps dry your eyes, Valencia is the only one that's decent in his position. The other 3 are terrible.

15.) 02 Feb 2018 12:37:17
Dry my eyes? I'm not crying over one game and spitting my dummy out because we lost a game.

16.) 02 Feb 2018 12:57:07
Jred it was an important game against a top 4 rival. We win we push them back.

17.) 02 Feb 2018 13:03:19
Completely agree jred. I think the defence has been very solid. But people going mad again.

18.) 02 Feb 2018 13:38:19
Not sure anybody could name a mistake Jones has made this season before Wednesday, but we all know on here people are judged on their last game.



31 Jan 2018 21:57:36
Worst performance I think I have ever seen for Man Utd. Credit Spurs were up for it tonight. Wow too much to say but can't be bothered to moan about it.


1.) 31 Jan 2018 22:21:25
Our players dissappear in the bigger games. Yes you could pick holes in the way we set up and tactics but our heavy hitters underperform in almost all of those top 6 games.

Martial was in some really dangerous positions tonight and he fluffed hus lines on every occasion.

You feel for Lukaku in games like this when the service is minimal but then his link up play is so bad that you can't feel sorry for him.

I know everyone is jumping on the Lingard band wagon the last couple of months but he is a really poor footballer. He's popped up with some vital goals but watch him for 90 minutes and it's like playing with 10 men.

Pogba again with another big game passing him by. When he's not moaning by throwing his hands in the air when he doesn't get decision it's his lethargic movement.

As for the defence, i could right a whole post on how Smalling isn't cut out for football at this level but i wouldn't waste my time. We honestly could do with a whole back 4 and I dread what state we'd be in if De Gea decides to leave.

The bar is being set really high and we have too many inconsistent passengers in our team. That's not to say we can't reach those lofty heights but there's a lot of work to be done!



05 Jan 2018 20:26:46
No one going on chat tonight?


1.) 05 Jan 2018 20:54:59
I'm at an ice hockey game. I don't even like ice hockey.

2.) 05 Jan 2018 20:59:48
I have left it to the toxics to enjoy.

3.) 05 Jan 2018 21:20:34
Oh, get over yourself Red Man.

4.) 05 Jan 2018 21:38:14
I have a choice Nou.

5.) 05 Jan 2018 22:15:31
Who won the ice hockey?

6.) 05 Jan 2018 22:20:50
Who knows Ken, but they need to sack the Ice Hockey Manager because it wasn’t great to watch.

7.) 05 Jan 2018 22:38:40
I think Sheffield beat Belfast 3 strikes to two, Ken. Or something like that. Spent most of my time trying to follow the puck, which gave me a migraine. Good punch-up after 30 seconds was the best thing in it.

Red Man, you call people a mob, toxics etc, then act all hurt when they dare to criticise José in any way. Some might say you were a toxic for the constant invective you aimed at Moyes before he managed a game for us. Or the way you slated Fergie in his last few seasons. Or the way you turned on LVG one day, after backing him to begin with. It's all subjective, I suppose.

I get that we're all supposed to give North Koreanesque support to a manager that you finally support because, well, because you said so. But you're doing more to separate fans into rival camps, than Beast or Jaime could ever do.

What happened to constructive, passionate discussions about the pros and cons of our club, players, manager etc, without being told one side or the other are somehow disloyal or treacherous because they dare to voice an opinion that differs from yours? We are all supposed to be on the same side after all, aren't we?

8.) 05 Jan 2018 22:45:30
Post of the year Steve.

9.) 05 Jan 2018 23:19:17
Ice hockey? So funny to us in North America. It's hockey. The other kind is field hockey and is played solely by women. Now I'm not hating, I saw the Dutch women's national team at the last Olympics and would support them to my dying day, but come on, just try it with me. hockey. Big men on skates going 30mph and shooting a frozen disc of razor edged hard rubber at over 100mph. What are they playing? Hockey. hahaha, clearly i'm just having a laugh fellas.

{Ed007's Note - Ice hockey's for pussies! All padded up with helmets and stuff, get out there with a pair of shorts and a t-shirt on and fight like men! Ice hockey and American football = pussies!}

10.) 05 Jan 2018 23:37:18
Stevie, I take it that it’s not worth going back up to see the Belfast giants again? Lol.

{Ed007's Note - Is that a new flute band?}

11.) 05 Jan 2018 23:55:07
If you enjoy seeing a lot of fat, hairy people in garish, oversized shirts (and that's just the women), then fill your boots, Caolan. Not for me, mate.

12.) 06 Jan 2018 00:21:33
Yeah, try either, then talk. Collisions far more violent in American football than rugby and the helmet only encourages those idiots to lead with their heads, making it far more dangerous than the tackling in rugby that is actually tackling, not heat-seeking missile collisions. Rugby players are tough as nails, i'm not saying otherwise, but its pure foolishness to compare the two sports. Rugby usually has one or both players at no/ low/ mild speed, lessening the impact. American football is the two biggest, fastest most athletic guys on earth running at each other at full speed, lowering their heads and colliding. Sure, it happens in rugby sometimes, and sometime American football hits aren't that bad. But sorry, they're not really even close nevermind the same.

As for hockey, try going head-on at 30+mph with a 240 lb guy coming at you at 30+ mph. Or slide face first into a 110mph slapshot. And if you want fighting, nothing beats ice hockey where it's actually legal to drop the gloves and go at it and most teams have enforcers whose job it is to protect his teammates by fighting. Sorry, but you're just wrong 007.

{Ed007's Note - Women play hockey without needing to dress up like Robocop and the majority of professional darts players are probably tougher than your average NFL player.}

13.) 06 Jan 2018 00:39:52
The brawl in the first minute was brilliant. As you say, helmets discarded, gloves tossed aside, and two lads going full pelt with rapid-fire punches. Their technique wasn't classical, but got the crowd going rightly.

I can also confirm that people from Sheffield are disproportionately smelly. Their collective levels of body odour in the bar, was very disturbing. Is that a Sheffield 'thing'?

14.) 06 Jan 2018 00:24:46
Take them to croke park for a game of hurling bond that's a man's game.

{Ed007's Note - Exactly, Ken. I'm at the wind up but it does annoy me the way hockey and NFL guys are all padded up and mollycoddled like fragile wee Justin Bieber fans like Ed004. You don't see folk playing badminton wearing safety goggles do you? Chess players with gloves on during the winter?}

15.) 06 Jan 2018 00:46:49
Its only jan Leahy. :) . Steve's got more to come.

16.) 06 Jan 2018 01:10:18
Better again Ken take them to a junior b game of hurling to the smaller clubs. now there's a man's game.

17.) 06 Jan 2018 01:11:21
Damned with faint praise, Singh 😀.

18.) 06 Jan 2018 01:11:55
Steve is just trying to get to the head of the leader board for the most banter posts for 2018,but my money is on jred.

19.) 06 Jan 2018 01:50:07
Busted :)

20.) 06 Jan 2018 02:05:59
I'm off to the ice hockey tomorrow. I can confirm that the hot dogs are spectacular.

21.) 06 Jan 2018 03:35:55
Is the cheerleaders there.

22.) 06 Jan 2018 07:32:56

You asked what happened to constructive, passionate discussions about the pros and cons of our club, players, manager etc. That would be great but that isn’t what was going on live chat. I wanted to comment on tactics and the game but it just is several people’s opportunity to slag the manager, beyond what I would call fun.

23.) 06 Jan 2018 11:42:06
Leahy I used to go when I was 14 and there was then - didn't see much of the matches as an excitable teenager that went to an all boys school! But now there's none, just good hotdogs.

24.) 06 Jan 2018 17:36:08
I only ever see Beast and Jaime coming out with anti-Jose comments on live chat, Red Man. And Beast always articulates his reasons for his comments.

There's some general moaning when performances are below par, of which there were a few this season. Only to be expected, and I see the live chat as a place where you can have a bit of banter, and sound off a bit.

Let's face it, the wife sitting on the sofa beside us isn't going to put up with us shouting and moaning during the game.

I just tut and roll my eyes at some of the more kneejerk reactions, and move on. I wouldn't take it too seriously, mate.



17 Dec 2017 18:56:26
Interesting point Gary Neville made earlier, was 7 out of the 11 starters today were here when Sir Alex left. 5 at the back, and Rahsford and Lingard were youths.

The point is 660m spent since SAF retired and we still don't have sufficient replacements, signing 8 defenders along the way.


1.) 17 Dec 2017 19:45:20
Good point made.

2.) 17 Dec 2017 20:05:28
Or maybe DDG, Jones, Smalling, Valencia and Young were better than people gave them credit for? Smalling was good today to be fair to the lad - he often frustrates the hell out of me, but he played well today. Valencia also made a great challenge when it looked easier for two players to score.

3.) 17 Dec 2017 20:22:42
I get the point, but I do wonder how accurately that reflects the clubs current state.

To start with Rashford and Lingard being youths during Sir Alex's time and therefore being included I think is just stretching things a little bit. In no other situation would you include youth players who didn't play for the club bar one brief cameo appearance in Sir Alex's final few games as players brought in and honed by Sir Alex. If they made their breakthrough under Sir Alex and played a season or two under him then fair enough. But they were never managed by him.

So it should be 5 of the starting team today have been managed by Sir Alex at the club. However, Sir Alex left 5 years ago. When he left DDG, Smalling and Jones were young players and expected to be a main part of our side for the next 10 years or so. So can it really be that suprising that they are still here 5 years down the line? I don't think so.

So that really leaves Valencia and Young, now Valencia has over the last few years been one of the best full backs in the league. He has rarely let us down, and is still maintaining his input. So why should we have got rid of him? Bar DDG I can't think of a more consistent player at our club over the last 5 years.

Young is the surprise, he wasn't first choice when Sir Alex left and he hasn't really been first choice for any of the managers since, until the start of this season, in which he has been excellent. I think the fact he is able to cover several positions, he doesn't rock the boat about not being first choice and him counting toward the homegrown quota are the main factors behind him still being at the club.

Other than those who started today the only other player in the squad to have played under Sir Alex is Carrick (I know Pogba played for Sir Alex but he hasn't been at the club the whole time since he left) .

Which means barring the youth players, there are only 6 players in the 25 man squad who played under Sir Alex 5 years ago. 19 new players in 5 summer transfer windows and that's not counting the ones who we brought in and sold in that time such as Di Maria, Depay, Schneiderlin, Schweinsteiger and Falcao.

So I think the club has done plenty on the player front of trying to change things since Sir Alex left, the issue is having had three managers since Sir Alex left has meant we have wasted loads of money on the "wrong" players. Imagine if the money we had spent on Di Maria, Depay and Schneiderlin had been spent on those new full backs and midfield depth everyone keeps going on about.

Rojo, Blind, Mata, Mkhitaryan, Shaw, Herrera and Fellaini are all possibilities to leave by the start of next season. That is £186m worth of players the club has bought since Sir Alex left on top of the £100m worth of players we have already bought and moved on since Sir Alex's departure.

That is the real squad issue since Sir Alex left, nearly £300m worth of talent bought which doesn't fit into the team/ squad in the long term and will likely not be at the club for the stat of the 2018/ 19 season.

4.) 17 Dec 2017 20:55:37
Your missing the point Shappy, and he point is they bought more defenders, and the ones with SAF are still playing, not what you are insinuating.
Due to the fact that the managers since SAF retired obviously don't rate them and have bought replacements that haven't been adequate enough.

5.) 17 Dec 2017 21:10:48
FZZ, I haven't missed the point at all. Would both Jones and Smalling have been playing today if Bailly was fit? no they wouldn't have been. Lindelof is still settling in, but he was good over the last couple of weeks. Shaw should also be starting.

6.) 17 Dec 2017 21:43:15
Bailly has been on the bench a fair few times Shappy.

7.) 17 Dec 2017 21:48:39
On the bench was Blind, Rojo, Luke Shaw, Matteo Darmain, lindelof. All fit to play. Yet your picking out Bailly? You clearly missed the point.

8.) 17 Dec 2017 23:02:29
I agree with FZZ here shaps. I think you missed the point.

9.) 18 Dec 2017 07:20:20
I don’t think the Shapster missed the point. SAF won the League in his last season so clearly there was some talent there. Pogba would have played if fit as would Bailly so whilst Neville had a point I don’t think it was quite as dramatic as he made it out to be. We have bought some very good players and we have also made some terrible buys. Personally I’d be playing Shaw as often as possible as well.

10.) 18 Dec 2017 07:52:04
I don't thinks shapps missed any points. Just read his post again.

It's a very generic statement that Neville has made. shappy's point is that we wouldn't be here had we not gone through the two managers right after SAF.

If Neville's point is that we've wasted a tonne of money, then Shappy's helped explain one of the reasons behind the waste (or should I say, two reasons, namely Moyes n lvg) and I am inclined to agree with him especially when names like di Maria, schwine (at least now I don't have to learn to spell his name) depay, Schneiderlin.

11.) 18 Dec 2017 09:22:42
Yes we have bought 8 defenders since Sir Alex retired, but how many have left since then?

Well we have Ferdinand, Vidic, Evra, Rafael, Evans Fabio, Buttner, Michael Keane, Blackett, Thorpe, Reece James, Wootton, Love and Vermijl.

So we have sold 14 defenders and brought 8. Now several of those players have retired, and many of them are youth players who never quite made it.

Rafael, Ferdinand, Vidic and Evra were the first choice back four in Sir Alex’s final few years, with Evans and Fabio playing vital back-up roles.

Valencia was only covering at right back on occasion, Young was very much considered a winger and not a full back. Jones and Smalling were young lads Sir Alex bought to be the future centre backs for our club, a future that Sir Alex knew would be beyond him.

So we have two players still in the squad from Sir Alex’s time who were considered defenders during Sir Alex’s time.

So considering Vidic Ferdinand and effectively Evra have retired that leaves:

Fabio, Rafael, Evans, Keane, Buttner, Blackett, Thorpe, Wootton, James, Love and Vermijl.
Still playing.

Then we have bought in:

Darmian, Bailly, Lindelof, Shaw, Rojo, Blind, TFM and Varela. Are the only defenders bought since Sir Alex retired.

Are you suggesting that you would rather have the first group of defenders who are still playing and have left the club rather than the second group who we have signed?

Because your original post is to suggest that the club have wasted money on defenders since Sir Alex’s retirement.

That can only be the case if you would prefer to have; Fabio, Rafael, Evans, Keane, Buttner, Blackett, Thorpe, McNair, Wootton, James, Love and Vermijl.

Over; Darmian, Bailly, Lindelof, Shaw, Rojo, Blind, TFM and Varela.

Do you really believe we haven’t improved our defensive ranks?

12.) 18 Dec 2017 09:26:32
Beast, Bailly has been on the bench when he hasn't been deemed fit enough to start. He has had several injuries this season. But when fully fit he has started. And I don't think anyone would deny he is our best defender.

13.) 18 Dec 2017 13:01:12
I see both sides of this debate players leave or retire and have to be replaced and as a whole the defenders bought look stronger as a squad than the ones who have gone . However if we assume Valencia Bailly Jones and young are at the moment first choice then we have bought 8 defenders for a lot of money and only one is currently first choice . If we bought 8 more in the next five year and only one was first choice it would mean maybe we haven't spent that great . That's as it stands though and who's to say if rojo Shaw or lindlehof aren't first pick in near future then the equation changes.

14.) 18 Dec 2017 14:27:54
Slate, that's a fair point. Of the 8 we have signed 2 were youngsters, Varela doesn't look like he'll make it. Whereas TFM has every chance, but is out on loan atm so couldn't feature for us last weekend.
So that leaves 6. Bailly was injured so now we are down to 5. Rojo and Shaw have had disrupted starts to this season with them recovering from injury. In Shaws case this has been and to an extent Blinds, Young has had an opportunity at LB and has taken to it like a duck to water and is probably one of the most "in form" players in our squad. Darmian on the other hand is competing with Valencia at RB. Valencia over the last 5 years has probably only been out performed by DDG. I would also say Valencia has been more consistent than Rafael ever was at RB before him.

I think Darmian was brought in to compete with Valencia and be a great squad option. Which he is doing.

That really only leaves Lindelof who has clearly had a hard time settling. He has only been at the club for a few months, both Evra and Vidic had similar struggles before him. So let's give him a season to bed in.

In a time where a top class player costs you upward of 30m at least I think you need to consider how much we paid for those defenders to see if they have lived up to standard.

Bailly, Shaw and Lindelof are the only ones we have paid a fee we would consider to be for a top class player (30m+) . One is living up to that billing, it is too soon to tell and the other has had terrible injuries. In Shaws last two games he has shown he might still be able to live up to that billing.

The others have been signed for relatively low fees, certianly not fees associated with a top class signing. Blind 14m, Darmian, 13m and Rojo 16m. TFM and Varela were bought for less than 3m combined.

So we signed players for fees we would associate with squad players and guess what they turned out to be squad players. Solid ones at that.

consider that Man City have signed three defenders in the summer for a combined total of 150m there or there abouts, and we have signed 8 defenders over a 5 year period for around 140m. If you want world class players that is the going rate. Maybe if we looked at signing top class players then our defence would look top class.

15.) 18 Dec 2017 15:15:20
Fair points shappy the defensive unit has been overhauled some hits some misses and I judged it on one possible defensive line up on another day 3 of 4 could be from the players purchased and our defensive record has been good for a while now . Not to many could have seen young pushing for a world cup place when some of the signings were made to.



18 Nov 2017 15:31:14
Poch Poch Poch. I love you thy Poch.


1.) 18 Nov 2017 15:45:23
🤣🤣🤣 not often i route for arsenal but today i did.

1 because spurs r right behind us and 2 because some of our fans have elevated poch as the new messiah and pep has been dumped.

{Ed0333's Note - I don’t understand all this Poch-bashing. Just because you lose a game doesn’t make you a bad manager. Does that mean Harry Kane is rubbish too?

2.) 18 Nov 2017 15:57:28
No ed not at all.

Its just a little uncomfortable to read the love in that our fans have for poch and some want him at utd NOW and jose gone.

Poch is a very good manager and i wanted gunners to win because him and spurs are a threat to our title challenge.

{Ed0333's Note - If I was a United fan mate I’d have Poch over Jose all day every day. Don’t you want to your team to entertain you when you watch them play? Or is all about the result?

3.) 18 Nov 2017 16:08:39
Im not sure Tottenham fans were entertained today.

4.) 18 Nov 2017 16:21:57
Its each to their own ed. No right or wrong but i am results first aesthetics second.

{Ed0333's Note - I respect that mate. I’m more about style than substance but I’m a superficial git

5.) 18 Nov 2017 17:26:58
🤣 that's what makes the beautiful game interesting ed. We could both watch a game and have completely different opinions on what we have seen.

{Ed0333's Note - absolutely mate.

6.) 18 Nov 2017 18:27:46
Careful Ed, we don't take too kindly to people who want to be entertained over here.

{Ed0333's Note - made me chuckle that

7.) 18 Nov 2017 20:18:20
Welcome ed 0333 well entertained today. Some nice stuff played. A little frustrating at times too. Rash frustrated me a bit today but that's what you get watching a player learn as he goes. Pogba was very good and his movement is the fulcrum for most of our good play. To be fair when he has played tbis season we look and have been very good at times. Only negative was lindelof who had another nervy game. His slip was unfortunate he just can't buy a break but he was nervy both before and after that. If he does come through this poor spell and becomes a big player it will be a turn around of epic proportions. I still have blind faith that he will come good but he has not shown himself in a good light so far. The epl is a tough and unforgiving enviroment for a nervy cb so he needs to get tough quickly.
Great result and some really good football today.

{Ed0333's Note - thanks for the welcome Ken. I watched your game on mute because I had Spanish commentary and unfortunately I don’t understand Spanish. But I’m not a fan of your play admittedly but as 001 says you get results and it’s a results based industry. Enjoy your 3 points mate

8.) 18 Nov 2017 20:52:07
Welcome ed, what team do you support?

{Ed0333's Note - Liverpool mate

9.) 18 Nov 2017 20:56:25
At a guess I'd say Liverpool.

10.) 18 Nov 2017 22:58:39
Stat in MOTD. Poch has won 1 from 17
Away games against last season’s top 6. Ouch.

11.) 18 Nov 2017 21:47:31
Apologies ed, i tead it as being ed033.

Welcome aboard 🙂.

{Ed0333's Note - you got nothing to apologize for my friend but thank you for the courtesy.

12.) 18 Nov 2017 22:22:55
Your still welcome ed😀.

{Ed0333's Note - lol




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