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10 Jan 2018 15:56:53
Been a very long time since I posted usually just read and agree or disagree to myself with what people post. I read a post a few week back regarding someone who had enough of the game seen more commitment on a Sunday league pitch etc and money and time can be spent elsewhere.

This is something that has been stewing with me for a while now. I have been a season ticket holder for some time now. at the end of last season I said to the wife " I think im done with it all". she replied why you enjoy it. and there it sunk in. I don't anymore. I renewed again thinking it may change but I have possibly done 3 games this season.

People ask why or what's wrong and if im honest it comes down to the whole game.

I have seen our team through very bad to the very good but the game is going down a slippery slope.

The money is obscene, the refs are shocking, the players cheat, dive, scream and roll around. They wave imaginary cards to get other players booked or sent off.

The ridiculous Kick off times and dates that games are played to suit the tv and not the fans.

Even watching it on tv turns my stomach. Commentators trying to justify players cheating or diving and nearly every player does it in every team.

Now I sometimes go to watch our local rugby league side where we all mix and can have a pint in the stands and watch them lads take a hit and get up without moaning and crying and I really enjoy it and it makes me go back.

It is where you buy a cup of tea and a pie and the money is put back into the club and it IS about the supporters who make the club.

With all that said and done my time as a football fan is finished.

Sad in a way but I do not enjoy the game anymore. my season ticket is £720 a season ticket at our rugby league side is £260 and that is where my money will go.

I will always look out for our results and wish the lads every success in the future.

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10 Jan 2018 17:27:21
Some leaving speech that totally pointless post.

10 Jan 2018 18:36:50
I go to watch F. C. United and Chester on occasion, it is good to see the lower leagues for sure, but united are in my blood so couldn’t just turn my back no matter how ludicrous it all becomes, why not watch both?

10 Jan 2018 18:47:30
I was so hoping this post had been written by Maze as I was reading down 😂.

10 Jan 2018 19:03:19
Sandwich short of a picnic.

10 Jan 2018 19:21:19
Football, and sport in general, is a metaphor for life. The obscenity of the reward, the cheating, the incompetent governance etc etc is a perfect mirror of what's going on outside. Moving on is part of the cycle of life, just like leaving a city that's become too crowded or a job that's no longer fulfilling. I remember when the beach in Goa was empty. Now it's full of tourists. I may never go back. But for every sour grump like myself there's clearly many a replacement. It's all in your frame of reference.

10 Jan 2018 19:42:37
Clemo, I understand the sentiment, totally. The game has become a caricature, a symbol of everything that's wrong in our greedy, self-obsessed society. It's all fur coat and no knickers for me. Maybe it's just an age thing.

I would just say, I don't begrudge young, working-class lads making as much as they can. They're entertainers, and when you see what privately-educated, RADA-trained actors earn for a film, there's no way I'd begrudge a young lad from a council estate, making the most of his talents, especially with the money swirling around in the game. I'd rather it went to them, than agents. There's a snobbery against footballers doing well for themselves.

But, I digress. I think you can do both, as I do, mate, just to keep you grounded.

10 Jan 2018 19:50:16
Some childish replies to a heartfelt post, a post I agree with. I too find myself wondering if this is for me and share the frustrations outlined by Clemo. Even if you don’t agree, no need for the silly replies.

10 Jan 2018 19:51:49
I know how you feel I hit a low during the van gaal season, even asked if friends wanted to take on my tickets ( 890 a year and iv got 2 ) I now don't go to every home game iv stepped back to spend more time with the wife and kids. As the game changes I find myself going to less games I don't know if its me getting older or just that footballs not the game it was when I was a kid.

10 Jan 2018 20:11:27
Watch NFL or NBA.

10 Jan 2018 20:24:47
My reply was to gds grumpy grandad😂.

10 Jan 2018 20:46:16
Not it wasn’t Ken. Do not backtrack it is pathetic.

NC As a whole I agree with your point about kids from a council estate doing well but as the years go past it seems the players to make it to the top these days are all kids of privilege who can afford to attend the best academy’s and soccer carnivals etc. The game is definitely doing a 360 turn from the “working class mans game”.

10 Jan 2018 21:14:20
How would you know maze it was in reply to gds in reference to your good self.

10 Jan 2018 21:19:17
Who are these players that come from priveledged backgrounds that have made it beast and where and when did you go through their family finances. you are the quintessential empty bottle just making noise.

10 Jan 2018 21:21:31
Gave mine up after Rome. Went without tickets didn’t get in, but the main reason was some stupid woman who worked for the club who probably never been to a game in her life offered me and my mate 2 tickets for £2000.I had to hold my mate back from lamping her. We ended up watching it outside the ground on a poxy tv and that was us done. Only bother with euro aways and the odd away game. Too many tourists at Old Trafford who know nothing about the club probably didn’t even know we were called Newton Heath before Man Utd. Love utd but hate the way the game has gone. All seater killed it for me.

10 Jan 2018 21:25:07
Maze, you mean a 180 turn. If it did a 360 it would be exactly the same. Logic. ;)

10 Jan 2018 21:47:01
180 maybe maze/ jmb/ rollo/ the maze and co. lol. That comment sums you up completely.

10 Jan 2018 21:49:51
Where Jmb and rollo live the circles have 720degrees rwwd you should know that.

11 Jan 2018 02:59:30
RWWD the point is that cost in football used to be based on cost the working class could afford say 20 per ticket. As the middle class got involved that cost went to 40 per ticket. Suddenly the game has now become a 60 per ticket sport because the upper class now control the finances. These costs ahead now done a complete 360 degree turn as it is now the working class man who is paying 80 per ticket.

Do not worry RWWD The Maze understands it is difficult for you to understand so an explanation is necessary. Ken and Angel The Maze is glad to see you are still contributing to interesting posts in the same way.

10 Jan 2018 23:25:01
I mix my time between rugby union and football these days. I can’t quite bring myself to relinquishing my season ticket and many people are happy to use it. Away matches and egg chasing for me right now to keep me sane. Once Football became less entertaining I see no point watching two teams trying not to lose anymore. Very dull.

11 Jan 2018 06:01:12
Haha he is trying to justify the comment now. Oh give up maze at this stage 😂.

11 Jan 2018 06:21:19
Angel what is our view on the great post by OP or are you only on this thread to follow the Mazes comments? Yep same old Angel.

11 Jan 2018 08:16:09
Good to see that now every thread is going to be about maze again 🖕🏻.

11 Jan 2018 10:15:58
I agree the game has gone to pot. I don't like it as much as I used to. It's done a 180 and I hope/ wish it would do a full 360 and becomes honourable again.

11 Jan 2018 10:35:51
I’m in the same boat Clemo, find myself enjoying the game less and less. You can’t have a normal conversation with anyone about football anymore as everyone seems so blind with bias. I watch England now and listen to the commentators justify every single dive and ignore every elbow or foul challenge by any England player.

11 Jan 2018 11:09:21
It's a good first post the type you are starting to read more off .
It's not just football, it's the way society is going .
A couple of pretty childish replies tho.

11 Jan 2018 12:52:46
I think its a great post. For me it is a gradual thing, and as more things happen that I find irritating, the less interest I take in the sport. Relatively speaking, I'm always going to love our club, but I find myself less willing to inconvenience myself to support them, and football. For example, I am yet to watch a single Southgate England game, where as a few years ago I would've seen them all.

At the moment I'm still fairly committed, but definitely less than I was a couple of years ago. The first hit to my overall passion for the sport was when Nani got sent off in the Champions League against Real.

So fair play Clem, I understand your sentiments entirely.

11 Jan 2018 17:36:13
Wow jack you got turned off watching soccer due to a referring mistake on nani.
Just as well your not german or you would have stopped watching in 1966 when the russian linesman screwed up.
Will your kids stop doing their homework if the teacher makes a mistake?

12 Jan 2018 09:06:01

I appreciate your point, but actually I think it's natural that people lose faith in a system, when they disagree with it. I didn't lose interest because Nani made a mistake, it was because I didn't agree with the rule/ decision that led to his dismissal.

Whether you like it or not, playing and supporting football are leisure activities, receiving an education is somewhat more important. It would be perfectly reasonable for children to lose faith in a system that failed them educationally, but more important for them to persevere.

And just to add, I follow football more closely than most of the population, I am just less interested than I once was.

12 Jan 2018 19:36:49
I was using am extreme to illustrate my point Jack. Nice reply.



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