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12 Jan 2018 21:19:21
All this talk of Sanchez has masked the rumour that Vardy is also being considered. Not sure if they would sell or at what price but I think he would slot in much easier, albeit he is a like for like with Lukaku. Sanchez’s attitude worries me, the stories from Arsenal about his isolationist approach do not bode well for team spirit. Hey ho, what do I know?

AJH

1.) 12 Jan 2018 21:28:45
I hope not. Hateful diving git, Gerrard, suarez, terry, barton, keown, cattermole, Vardy. all the same to me would of hated to see any of them in a red shirt.


2.) 12 Jan 2018 23:05:33
That's one heck of a team those lot would make. Lacks some wide players tho.


3.) 13 Jan 2018 05:53:05
bfbw, there too much hate in your heart, i'd have had Keown and Suarez any day of the week. Go hug a tree man.


4.) 13 Jan 2018 08:10:14
AJH Vardy is a player Maze likes and admired over the years for his tenacity as well as his rags to riches story but to say he is a better option than Sanchez is silly, very silly.

Wake up AJH you are dreaming of poorly fabricated scenarios.


 

 

08 Dec 2017 20:28:41
So, first of all, I share my birthday with Jonny Evans so put that your pipe and smoke it. Secondly, I may have had a little wine tonight so forgive me if I am less coherent than Ronnie during a transfer window.

Sunday is a big game and I hope that Jose wakes up and has an epiphany but I fear it will not happen. I believe it is better to die fighting than running away and in football that is also true. Inspire the troops, give them hope and belief, rouse their spirits, fill their hearts with pride and desire. Let’s not turn up to stifle and try and nick a goal on the break. I don’t care if they are the best team, like Pierre the famous French fighter pilot, let’s go down in flames (google it) .

We are United, a team steeped in history and tradition, we live or die by our standard, there are times to stand up and be counted, Sunday is one of those times. We win, or we lose in a blaze of glory, to be a United fan there are no in betweens.

Time for more wine.

AJH

1.) 09 Dec 2017 01:43:34
Jesse's performance at Arsenal will have given him food for thought. Maybe we can press high with a few players and cause some chaos amongst their back line. Worry is that Matic and Ander would have to play out of their skins.

The motivational piece is way more important than formation. Win your battles all over the pitch and you'll get a win.


2.) 09 Dec 2017 10:50:17
We’ll park the bus and try to catch them on the counter and via set pieces.


 

 

27 Aug 2017 19:14:26
Just caught up with MOTD, I thought all our players played well. Amongst other things that stood out though:

1. Joe Hart, wow, surely he isn't England's goalie any more
2. Anyone else warming to Rafa? No? Just me?
3. City, still not convincing and I think strong teams will bully them.
4. Shearer has become a half cent pundit since he stopped sitting on the fence.
5. Phil Neville, got to love him, is he the most positive person in the world ever?
6. Swansea possibly not as bad as we have thought.
7. Bilic and De Boer have to be worried although after today's debacle, perhaps Wenger will be first to go.

AJH

1.) 27 Aug 2017 20:35:38
Pretty much agree with everything there mate.
I was saying to my lad yesterday that if this palace squad go down it's the best squad ever to be relegated.


2.) 27 Aug 2017 00:43:07
Phil Neville really annoys me. He's so biased it's unbelievable. Agree with the rest. De Boer is no surprise, he was abysmal at inter. Played some disgraceful football there.


 

 

16 Apr 2017 19:52:35
We may have beaten the League leaders 2-0 but my roast carrots were overlooked and I blame Fellaini. He's a disgrace.

AJH

1.) 16 Apr 2017 20:28:56
Rumours Ed? I could live with Others but Rumours?

{Ed004's Note - This is just hearsay until more sources confirm it}


2.) 16 Apr 2017 21:06:15
De Gea made no saves that is not good enough. Get rid.


3.) 16 Apr 2017 21:31:26
I have several witnesses to the carrot issue, but no video ref.


4.) 17 Apr 2017 09:37:29
I can confirm Bond Tony's carrots was burnt to cinders.


 

 

25 May 2016 12:35:44
I've heard that Rooney is not opposed to a move back to Everton as part of the Stones deal, seems like a great idea to me.

AJH

1.) 25 May 2016 13:16:05
And who is going to pay his wages at Everton?


2.) 25 May 2016 13:35:45
Absolutely ridicules.


3.) 25 May 2016 13:57:06
Cant see it, pus I think he will want to get the goalscoring record - 18 months from now maybe.


4.) 25 May 2016 14:26:07
My opinion, great idea, although the wages will be an issue?

Could we not subsidise Rooneys wage along side Everton?


5.) 25 May 2016 14:54:25
Yes Ronnie, let's pay huge wages for someone who no longer plays for us. Great logic?


6.) 25 May 2016 15:00:23
Farha Moshiri?


7.) 25 May 2016 15:06:53
I cannot see that happening in a million years but if Everton can be rumoured to be interested in paying £40million for Joe Hart then they obviously have some money in the club after being brought?

Still, it's silly season now so a nice rumour to get the ball rolling early doors I suppose. If Jose does come in I fully expect the media to link us with Courtois when DDG moves to Real which they will report and we will also get linked to Hazard at some point despite his supposed fall out with Jose.


8.) 25 May 2016 15:55:34
Mmmmm can't see it Tony😁.


9.) 25 May 2016 16:07:59
It's the club he supports, he has more money than he can spend already, he may not be first choice next year, it makes perfect sense to me,


10.) 25 May 2016 16:57:43
People do realise Rooney is only on £150K basic don't they? When he signed his new deal he got insane on target bonuses but I don't see why a similar thing couldn't be worked out at Everton.

I'm sure the likes of Lukaku are on £100K+.


11.) 25 May 2016 17:14:41
". only on 150K basic. "

😂😂.


12.) 25 May 2016 17:56:06
You sure you have a big enough fishing rod there AJH 😂.


13.) 25 May 2016 23:57:46
For the life of me I will never understand the Rooney haters that live on these message boards. Game in game out he's one of our best players and has been for years. For the better part of half a decade there has been a vocal portion of United supporters who seemingly only look at total goals as a judgement on Rooneys contributions. Shameful really but I get satisfaction knowing that for five or six years they've been complaining about Rooney and for just as long they've been proven wrong over and over again. Just embarrassing to have to see these posts all the time.


 

 

 

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19 Jan 2018 06:43:57
I realise everyone is very giddy about Sanchez and he is undoubtedly a very good player but I worry about the implications.

It’s not my money and we are a rich club but if the reported salary numbers are anywhere near correct I’m not sure how other players will feel. This isn’t Messi or a Ronaldo we are talking about. Whilst he is very good I think some are getting over excited and elevating him to a level that he is not at.

We still don’t know how much his heart was set on City, l if and when he does sign it will be interesting to see what he has to say and how committed he looks. His attitude at Arsenal this year has been pretty poor and I just hope this isn’t going to be a Di Maria situation.

Of course he may arrive and bang in 25 goals and I’ll look silly but I’m not sharing the euphoria right now. We shall see.

AJH

1.) 19 Jan 2018 07:28:54
Went does that not surprise me.


2.) 19 Jan 2018 07:29:14
Why does that not surprise me?


3.) 19 Jan 2018 07:47:23
AJH,

Hes not Ronaldo or Messi but he's in that group just below. I imagine every player at united will be looking forward to play with him.

Plus his merch will shift well all over the world. New football rights deal coming up and even more money will be available.

Lets all stop picking holes and enjoy it. As long as his salary is not coming out of my bank, I couldn't care less!

{Ed025's Note - im with you james..


4.) 19 Jan 2018 08:00:42
I think the figures banded about are hysterical and extreme clickbait.

One thing i highly doubt the glazers would do is jeopardise their "investment" or at least create a financial headache with wages.

Most likely the deal will be heavily beefed up with image rights and cup a soup sponsors.

Simple way to see it is by next season, ibra, micky and mata will be out (pretty hefty wages) and sanchez, maybe ozil will come in, so any increas in weekly wage expenditure should not be too cumbersome.


5.) 19 Jan 2018 08:16:12
Sanchez or Ronaldo. Or both . Ronaldo for me every time 😆😆.


6.) 19 Jan 2018 08:27:38
For me sanchez is the biggest and most meaningful signing we are making since sir alex left to get us back to our winning ways. Our young team can learn a lot from him and i am sure he will raise the game of the players arround him as well.
if we make sanchez our highest paid, i can only consider de gea to be given such a contract.


7.) 19 Jan 2018 09:12:53
Hi guys, long term reader, first time post.

Not too sure why people are worrying about Sanchez potential salary. Utd can afford it anyways but if HM is going the other way that'll be fair wedge we're saving by not paying him. Won't completely cover Sanchez' wages but it'll take chunk out of it so not as straight forward as "oh we're paying him 500k a week"


8.) 19 Jan 2018 09:35:42
Have to disagree AJH. Whilst I agree in part about your fears of another Di Maria situation, I think the circumstances are very different. If Sanchez doesn’t want to come then all he has to do is reject us and wait for city in the summer. But he clearly has interest in us so I think we should not be so surprised about that.

The second point I wanted to make is that this could be one of our most important or pivotal signings to date. It seems that superlatives have been thrown round about city and how the will build a dynasty blah blah blah. Yet we are taking a player from them that has been nailed on for 6 months. It is showing the football world we are coming back and that sends a strong message to potential new signings in the summer when it comes to joining us or city. The media are bad mouthing us because they are scared and sense that the sleeping giant is waking from 5 years of under achievement. We are still 4 players short but we are definitely on the up. So I think we should stop worrying about it’s or buts and hypotheticals and just ENJOY this sort of signing which we all crave. I for one am relishing the chance of seeing a player of sanchez’s ilk grace the Old Trafford turf. And may be daft but if it were to be between current Ronaldo and Sanchez - it’s a Sanchez for me every day of the week and weekends too.


9.) 19 Jan 2018 10:48:05
It would be different from Dimaria situation simply because dimaria hadn't played in epl before but sanchez has and very well at that.


10.) 19 Jan 2018 11:18:20
Fully agree Shaw!


11.) 19 Jan 2018 11:20:07
I meant Park sorry mate! 😂.


12.) 19 Jan 2018 12:00:28
I really do love the shafting City part of this and he is EPL proven: I was merely suggesting the salary might cause unrest and he isn’t the Messiah. I’m looking forward to him joining and hope he is desperate to impress. We have quite a few younger players so an older head will be useful.

I read an article suggesting that he has always kept himself to himself so the sulking suggestions could well be exaggerations.


13.) 19 Jan 2018 12:12:27
Haha no worries Danny 😂.


14.) 19 Jan 2018 15:33:07
One of the things Sanchez will bring is the determination to shut the other team down in their own half. That's an area we have been lacking, especially when we're trying to close out games.


15.) 19 Jan 2018 18:33:49
right now it will be exciting times. however, offering a 29 year old a 4 and half year contract with week wage that ranges 300-500k just sounds too much. we may be in same boat as we were with Rooney and possibly Schweinsteiger and struggle to offload him in a few years time to make way for someone else.


 

 

14 Jan 2018 18:06:48
That was a great game and both teams played the game the way it should be played. The pressing and energy was outstanding and yes we might be second, but I’d like us to pick up the pace and show more urgency. We did it for a short spell against Arsenal. It aren’t doing it often enough.

Stand had the Scousers down to finish 2nd and they are on some run right now. It’s suddenly got very tight and those 3 draws haven’t helped us. I think Arsenal are now out of the race for top 4 so it looks like 4into 3. We need to pick it u tomorrow and start to string some wins together.

AJH

1.) 14 Jan 2018 18:28:59
yep, credit where its due pool looked very good today. So much terminology crept into the game now by pundits/ coaches/ journos. 'false no 9" high press" keeper sweeper" etc etc but the fact remains as it did 50 years ago if you have a player that can dribble with pace, taking men out the game . and has a football brain as Pool and city do . and we had since Best, Kanchelskis, Giggs, Ronaldo there is no more dangerous player on the pitch and no greater sight for a football fan.


2.) 14 Jan 2018 18:32:22
Its very tight at the top now tony. i'm a little worried myself. a decent game against stoke with a positive outcome is needed.

Mentioned it before but i hate stoke and its third only ro liverpool and leeds so we need to win.


3.) 14 Jan 2018 18:46:37
Those 3 draws in a row are hurting us now.


 

 

13 Jan 2018 12:44:49
AJH has decided that AJH too often sits on the fence and that AJH needs to be more like MAZE and get off said fence and give a clear opinion. AJH has had a serious word with AJH and henceforth AJH will say it how AJH sees it.

AJH

1.) 13 Jan 2018 13:06:04
AJH Of course you want to be more like the Maze it is only natural but please no more of the foolhardy comments regarding Vardy being a better fit that Sanchez that is just complete twaddle.


2.) 13 Jan 2018 13:11:46
You've instantly gained more credibility in my eyes by talking in third person.


3.) 13 Jan 2018 13:28:18
Deano is pleased the maze is back as talking like this makes deano feel special 😁.


4.) 13 Jan 2018 14:00:06
Deano was always special😂.


5.) 13 Jan 2018 14:16:29
AJH thinks the MAZE is confused and AJH suggests the MAZE reads the post again as the MAZE is applying his own interpretation to AJH’s posti.


6.) 13 Jan 2018 15:08:01
Thanks ken you're so nice 😁.


7.) 13 Jan 2018 15:31:47
Didn't we have that penguin guy a while ago who referred to himself in 3rd and 4th person?


8.) 13 Jan 2018 15:49:01
That was Ngiak/ gan CSM.

A true legend of the site.


9.) 13 Jan 2018 15:49:10
Indeed we did, ngiak I think. He was quite odd.


10.) 13 Jan 2018 15:58:01
Same person CSM. its the joker not penguin. (aka weirdo)


11.) 13 Jan 2018 16:03:12
I loved his posts CSM used to make me laugh😂.


12.) 13 Jan 2018 17:26:25
Ajh be the change that you want to see in the world. Leahy is with you.
Say what you see.


13.) 13 Jan 2018 18:30:34
Ah yeh Gan, probably all same person he was a maniac.


14.) 13 Jan 2018 18:10:10
fzz nope different person, agree ken funny guy, though his posts were difficult to decipher from time to time.


 

 

04 Jan 2018 09:15:48
Rumours this morning that Jose is unhappy and jetting to and from London whilst still living in a hotel in Manchester. Interestingly, Guardiola has bought an apartment in Manchester, not sure where his family are but I would have thought an apartment was a better bet than a soulless hotel.

Love him or loathe him it seems things are progressing, Jose unhappy with our investment, owners unhappy with his comments, Jose not happy in Manchester. I guess a good run of a few wins might make everything seem different but there does seem to be a public game of chess being played right now.

I still think we will finish 2nd (sorry Stand) with a chance of a Cup and with the right investment will continue to progress. However I do wish all the noise and hullabaloo would go away and Jose would lighten up a tad.

AJH

1.) 04 Jan 2018 09:49:43
Tony, This is one of the reasons I was never sold on Mourinho. He brings the circus with him everywhere he goes. He is constantly posturing and looking for fights.
Things are now starting to come to a head. I could understand him living in the hotel to start with, even this season. If his family aren’t going to join him as his kids are settled and in education then I understand why he wouldn’t want to buy a place. It makes financial sense. However, I also agree that it must be tiring and straining on him to not be with his family and to not have a place of his own. I can see why that would make him unhappy.
Jose also has one of the biggests ego’s in world football, and the idea that not every member of the board wanted him will surely grate on him. Maybe because of that he feels he isn’t getting the backing he feels he deserves. Even though he has spent 295 - 310m in 18 months.
He has an ongoing feud with Pep which I’m sure is eating him up inside with how well Pep and City are doing at the moment. I expect a lot of the tension in his press conferences possibly comes from his view that the press “love” Pep. Sort of the friends of his enemy are also his enemies.
I think we are seeing the beginning of the end with Jose sadly, as even though I was never a fan of signing him and can still appreciate what he has done for us.
For me though things are starting to turn a bit sour.


2.) 04 Jan 2018 11:33:28
If your board do not support you or have less ambition then it will be a problem

Perhaps the board will get rid, much to the delight of some, and appoint someone with less ambition who won’t push or ask for money.

Perhaps the friction is due to differing levels of ambition and if that is the case we should be very concerned. If Jose leaves I won’t believe any family type reasons but would be concerned that it does confirm our concerns about our own boards ambition.

I do not blame Jose for pushing, he isn’t a long term appointment, he comes in and wants to win, needs support to do it. For too long we have drifted never really making a concerted effort to knock Barcelona or Madrid off their perch, just the Scousers.

The board need to back Jose or answer what their real goals and ambitions are.


3.) 04 Jan 2018 11:40:25
Jose has been backed, but some of his signings don't suit his system/ have been poor and inconsistency compared to Pep.


4.) 04 Jan 2018 12:06:26
Couldn't agree more Redman. We bought 3 players and he desperately wanted a winger and left back. But the owners and their puppet, Woodward, argued over prices.
The owners are more interested in money than keeping the football side up to scratch.
I'm not a big mourinho fan. But if his ambition is not matched by the owners, then God help us.


5.) 04 Jan 2018 12:14:39
Red Man, Only Pep at City has spent more money in the same time frame than Jose has, ever in world football. Being the second most financially backed manager of all time hardly sounds like he isn't being backed does it?

For me the timing is off.
January is notorious for being a tough window to buy in. Very few January signings do well and even fewer make a difference immediately. In the last 25 years only Evra and Vidic have really done well for us out of our January signings and both took until the start of the next season to truly start to do well. The league is in reality gone which leaves the UCL and the FA cup as our best hopes of winning something this season. Even if we ignore the fact that most January signings don’t do well until the following season we also have to contend with most potential top signings will be cup tied for at least one of these competitions.

So why pick a fight with the board now? If he’s lucky the board will give in and he will spend a January premium signing an at best above average player who is unlikely to make any difference to this season. If he was picking this fight in the build up to the summer transfer window I could understand it more, to do so now doesn’t make much sense.

For me it feels more like he is just putting it out there that he isn’t very happy at our club, and to do so just as we approach a transfer window when his agent will likely be meeting with many of the people in charge of those other top clubs seems like he is fishing for interest.

I know you're an ardent supporter of Jose, but does a leopard change its spots?
Jose has always looked out for himself, case in point when winning the Europa league with us last summer he tried to make it all about HIM winning a “treble” rather than OUR club winning the one trophy missing from our set, or the players turning a poor season into a winning one.

If Jose is picking a fight with the board it is because it is in Jose’s interest and not the clubs or the fans. Yes the Glazers have allowed the club to slide with a lack of investment, but under Jose and to an extent under LvG the owners have backed the managers with many signings including breaking the club record signing 3 potentially 4 times (if we end up paying the 15m in add ons in Lukaku’s contract) and the world transfer record once.


6.) 04 Jan 2018 12:46:30
Shappy

Actually I am not Jose’s biggest fan, I wanted Pep after Lvg but I wanted someone with burning ambition, someone who wants the club to be at the very top not just competing

If Jose wants to put us at the top of world football he might do it for himself but so what if it gets us there. I have had to go into businesses to introduce a step change with the aim of making them the best in class. I was driven by my own ambition to get them there but so what if it got them there

Too many maintain this fancy ideal about how nice managers should be and how much money we spend, whilst Madrid and Barcelona win European cups. We finally get a manager who is probably more driven than SAF to win those trophies but could replace him with someone less ambitious and less demanding yet will keep a few happy with pretty football

When we don’t win the European cup for years, again, there can be no complaints.


7.) 04 Jan 2018 12:46:54
Shappy, could it he is aware of that he is aware of the issues facing new signings and with the league all but gone wants to get some of his summer targets in now so they have a bedding in period with less pressure than normal as realistically we are not expected to challenge for the Champions League this year.


8.) 04 Jan 2018 12:51:58
Just for the sake of an argument or opinion.

Who do you want as the manager if Mou was to leave at the end of the season?


9.) 04 Jan 2018 12:57:23
Yes the club has spent a lot of money but as someone said above most signings don't fit the system. So are they Jose's signings? I don't see him signing square pegs.

Regards the owners to quote someone else its like the owners are trying to build a Ferrari but by buying cheap parts an then putting it out on the race track with a cautious driver to try and grab whatever prize pot he can.

And James Ducker of the telegraph says Jose an agent have been talking about a new contract for the last month.


10.) 04 Jan 2018 13:04:13
Its not just about the money that has been spent, look at the players that have been let go. To buy the best players, you pay the premium price and we have done that in the past 2 summers. But just look at the current squad and how many of them would you actually want to stay at the club. Smalling, Rojo, Shaw, Blind, Darmian? that's the entire defence that can be bettered. Move into the Midfield, If we leave out Pogba and Matic, clearly Fellaini wants to leave. Then you have an aging Carrick. Herrera who has gone backwards this season and then a youngster in McTominay. How can you think of competing with the best with these players? In the attack, yes we have Zlatan (injured), Lukaku, Martial and Rashford (I am not convinced on him), Mkhitaryan and Mata. Lukaku has lacked service because of the issues in MF and thus he has struggled. Martial although a better footballer than the other strikers is inconsistent but still makes things happen. Mkhitaryan, I really don’t know what went wrong with him and he wasn’t a Jose signing, he was already through the front doors, Jose just stamped it. So, even with the money spent you need to look at the quality of the players at your disposal before you start to compare yourself with that City squad and their football.


11.) 04 Jan 2018 13:52:25
And I’ve now just heard on the radio we are talking to him about an extension. Who’d have thought?


12.) 04 Jan 2018 14:22:27
Very good posts redman, I am in agreement with you. Jose is our 4th manager since Fergie has left.

No matter what you think of Jose, there is certain common denominators here for me, it is the board and the players themselves.

The board have obviously made big mistakes in acquisitions and also in how they run certain elements of the club. There are also quite a few players who have been there for years now and who have consistently not produce a level of football that is required for a club like United.

The board need to give Jose what he wants and needs, because his history tells us that he will win a lot of trophies. And the players need to buck up their ideas and work harder because they are responsible for their own poor performances. We can't continuously blame each manager we have for we know whoever comes after Jose, if this doesn't work out, will also be blamed.

By the way, I think Jose's latest press conference was very good.


13.) 04 Jan 2018 14:40:17
Another good point. How many of the current squad is actually good enough?


14.) 04 Jan 2018 15:13:06
Red man, it all takes time though. Winning UCL titles are a combination of having a great team, timing and luck. If it all comes together then you have a great chance of winning it. First you have to build the team. You can’t go signing 18 players in one summer.
I always thought the mark of a good manager was their ability to get the best out of what they have.

When you’ve gone into those businesses to get them to the top did you sack all the staff overnight? Course not, I suspect you wouldn’t have been allowed. I’m sure you’ll have brought in a few new people, created new role and removed others. But the majority of it will have likely been getting the most out of what you had.

When Sir Alex built his first great team he didn’t just sell the whole team and bought new. He moved some on, he brought a few key players in and he promoted from within. Beyond that he he made sure he got the maximum out of what he had.

Jose is a great manager when it comes to winning things, yet his record with improving players is very patchy. That is one of the reasons he struggles with youngsters, he just isn’t that good at improving players so they stagnate and remain at the same level as when they step up into the first team.

I personally think this team is better than the one Sir Alex won his last title with, Sir Alex just got more out of it.

Real Madrid had a Galactico policy and thought they could buy titles, yet they won very little for it. Barcelona on the other hand focused on doing things their way, they brought young players up from the academy and they ended up with possibly the greatest team of all time. Man for man it might not have been better than Real Madrids, but on the pitch they were miles apart.

12daysofhermida, I doubt it. Mourinho doesn’t tend to think that far ahead. We didn’t make any signings last January when we were in a far worse position than this, unless the chance to sign one of our top targets at a non inflated price presents itself in January then I doubt we will make a signing. Surely Mourinho must be aware of that, he didn’t make these comments last year when our need was greater. So why now?

Mort, we haven’t been buying cheap players under Mourinho. Mkhitaryan is the cheapest at 26m, while he was the Bundesliga player of the year. We only got him for 26m because he was in the final year of his contract otherwise he would likely have cost 30-40m. We aren’t buying cheap players these days.

Shan, all those players are internationals, and all for historically top international teams. Rojo has played in 3 international cup finals, Darmian plays for Italy and Blind for the Netherlands. Shaw was the most expensive teenager for a few years.
I actually don’t think there are that many great defenders anywhere in the world atm. Stones and Otamendi aren’t considered world class players, yet Pep has them playing like they are.

Wes Brown, Phil Neville, David May, John O’Shea. None of these guys were world class, yet Sir Alex got them doing a great job when called upon. Maybe Mourinho just isn’t that good a manager as to be able to lift players and get them playing better?

Hardly surprising Tony, maybe that was his game all along, he just wanted more money. Maybe we should increase the wage of the highest paid manager in the league. That way he might be able to afford to rent an apartment. Lol.

Raghav, I wouldn’t pretend to know who is best. For a start I would want to interview potential candidates as well as research them and their methods. Off the top of my head though I would consider Allegri, Sarri, Pochettino, Schmidt and Marcelino. Some young managers and a couple who aren’t. What is important though is that they understand our club and what is expected of a Manchester United manager.


15.) 04 Jan 2018 15:17:24
Mort, was it 7 the other week that started a match that played under Fergie? I think Neville said it. That's 3 quarters of the squad. That's suggest that signings during moyes and LVG weren't good enough and we need more investment.


16.) 04 Jan 2018 16:02:21
Shappy, what is cheap in the footballing world when it comes to man United. All relative to what the player can bring commercially. 26 million I would imagine is cheap for United but wouldn't be for say Bournemouth. There are different levels to what we can afford and what players we should be buying. They all come with different price tags when man United are trying to buy them.


17.) 04 Jan 2018 16:06:36
Shappy i respect your opinion but being an international doesn't make you a better player. And how long was SAF at the helm of the club when he was developing the players? And yet Jose is being judged in 18 months? And the football has moved on now. Its a results oriented business, not a sport anymore. Pep hasn't developed the defenders you said, its only the fact that the others in front of them are playing so well that it papers over their dodgy defence. The only one that i say is playing better is Sterling. Then we have Lingard who is developing well under Jose. We need a few more windows to get the team sorted. A few have said that only City has spent more than us. Reminder that its only City that are ahead of us in the table.

Also someone said that Manager needs to get the best out of the available players. Does it cross your minds that may be he is doing that. How many of the players have a winning mentality in the current squad. Our squad lacks that final quality to be at the top. May be that's why our manager is calling out the owners to gdt that in.


18.) 04 Jan 2018 16:38:47
Shan, this side has won three major trophies in the last 2 years. So I expect several of the players have a winning mentality. Besides isn't it supposed to be part of a managers job to create that mentality within a squad.


19.) 04 Jan 2018 17:52:33
But Shan. Jose doesn't develop players 😉.


20.) 04 Jan 2018 18:04:33
Shappy darmian plays for the worst italy team seen for 80 years.
Blind plays for the worst Dutch team for 40 years not a great cv booster.

I take your point they are decent players of course they are but they have not excelled at united and they never will so move them on.


21.) 04 Jan 2018 20:06:59
Shappy

It does usually take time to win UCL titles, but we have a manager who has done it several times and didn’t take that long to get his team in shape. No one is suggesting 18 players in one summer, but we would be suggesting 3 or 4 of which several must be top level.

You said you thought the mark of a good manager was their ability to get the best out of what they have. The days of Brian Clough have gone, SAF is probably the last great motivator. However both only won 2 UCLs and how many chances did SAF have? Did he really get the best out of what he had, or if he was so good should he have been able to take the next step and dominated Europe?

SAF got more out of his final team for numerous reasons, not least momentum, fear and note City now have a far better team than SAF faced.

I note your comment about Madrid, but how many UCL titles overall and how many in recent years? They are aggressive and aim to dominate in Europe, have a mindset to win, we have just played at it.

What is expected of a Manchester United Manager? Winning, that’s what, nice football if they can but winning is the aim. You name people like Pochettino, who I like, but he hasn’t won anything. Right now the board need to look at Joses plans and decide if they want to support him. If they don’t why should he stay?


22.) 04 Jan 2018 21:07:33
Maybe Jose can't get anymore out some of these players. I have been on this site the last few years and have seen smalling slated over and over as not good enough and people expect Jose to get more out of him? I think we are can all agree that there are a few in this squad that aren't good enough and they will be sold once new faces are brought in.

I saw that people were applauding pep for what he did last season, implementing his style and not worrying about results and sorting his squad out. I hate to imagine the reaction if Jose did that, we finished lower than 6th and didn't win the league cup or Europa league. As some have said, it's a results business and Jose gets results.

So Jose has signed 7 players since he came to the club and it has come out that apparently bailly and mhktaryan weren't jose's signings. If that is the case then who is making these decisions? As far as I'm aware, we don't have a director of football which is the only other person I would expect to sign players apart from the manager, I may be wrong though.

On jose's demeanour, he is treated poorly by the press and media, of course he brings a lot of it on himself but I think there is a clear double standard with how he is treated compared to some of the other managers. For example, klopp screams in the linesmans face and instead of getting sent to the stands, is applauded for his passion, if you feel you are getting treated differently to the other managers, you are not going to waltz into your press conference and be happy.

Does anybody know roughly how much of their own money the glazers have put into the club and how much they have taken out as this will show the massive difference in our owners as city's have invested soo much of their own money on over the years already. They also don't mind overpaying on players if that is want pep wants. Apparently Jose really wanted perisic, then go get him, we aren't a selling club so don't worry about their sell on value later on

I saw someone say they want Allegri, he was suppose to be in charge this season from memory but that was obviously screwed up by the supporter base. If Jose is backed properly he will get results, as he has proved during his career.


23.) 04 Jan 2018 21:29:53
Darv

Good points

Another question is how much money has been wasted on funding the borrowing and what we could have done with it, such as buying world class players?

{Ed002's Note - You are kidding right?}


24.) 04 Jan 2018 22:08:11
Ed002

I am not sure what you mean? There are different estimates as to the cost of the borrowing, but interest, charges and restructuring of the borrowing, the bond issue over many years will come to a very substantial sum.

{Ed002's Note - I guess you don’t understand how the money was used.}


25.) 04 Jan 2018 22:23:10
Do you mean the borrowing?

The Glazers used loans to buy the club, the majority were then secured against the club, initially interest payments of £60m a year. They refinanced with a bond issue on which they had to pay interest. I am not aware the borrowing was used for anything other than enabling the leveraged buy out.

{Ed002's Note - you seem to be stuck on half a story.}


26.) 05 Jan 2018 08:05:31
Shappy:

Great post, I couldn't agree more with what you wrote.

I think Jose needs to get a little bit more out of the players and make average fringe/ squad players, capable of playing in the starting 11, if the need arises.

I would look at Allegri too, maybe because he stays out of the spotlight and his team does most of the talking and also because he was part of the plan, after LVG (not too sure, but I think he was supposed to come, had LVG stayed for the entire duration) .

With the team, I personally feel that we lack quality wingers. Obviously we need two, Rashford and Martial, even if they are inverted wingers in the current system, do not have the quality or consistency to play that role. Now, whether they can work on it or if it's more of temporary thing, I don't know.

Even if we can't invest in 2, we should definitely try and get 1. Only coz, we might be able to get the best out of Lukaku, for the remainder of the season.


Shan:

You mention that Jose is getting the max out of the players that he has and I think that might be true for certain players, but if that is the case, then isn't it better to ship them out and invest the money into new recruitments?

I firmly believe that Jose asking the board to back him up financially is a fair call. Perisic comes to mind and who knows, there might be a few more who were wanted by Jose and the board didn't sanction the money. Why they didn't sanction is another story altogether.

You're right, Otamendi and Stones aren't world class players, in fact, only Kompany, when fit, can be considered as a good defender in the City squad. The one thing Pep has done, is that he's got them playing the football that he wants to play and they are forced to play that way. I think that is where the fundamental problem is. Jose and United don't have an identity when it comes to the kind of football do they want to play. Do they play short passes, or are the hoofing the ball upfield, nobody knows. From what I see, tactics and game plans are decided on a game to game basis. That's good, teams need to prepare for each opposition, but, the identity shouldn't change.

Red Man:

I may be wrong here, but I think the reason why a lot of us posters talk about Pochettino is because we all admire the way his teams play. The movement, the drive, the continuity, the flow, is all good to watch. Maybe, we want a manager who plays football that is similar to that.

Seeing the Arsenal Vs Chelsea game I was thinking to myself, that if Arsenal can play that way against Chelsea, then why can't we? Arsenal don't have a better squad than us,
but they took the game to the Blues and should have won. Maybe, our team needs the belief, that they can win matches and trust their individual abilities.


Darv:

You're spot on, mate. I genuinely think Mou at times, is treated unfairly by the media and the press. Klopp, Conte, Pep all of them love to be on the sidelines and jump and up down as if the won the world cup everytime their team scores. For them, it might be their way of showing the passion they have, but Mou not jumping doesn't show that he isn't passionate.


Just to end things:

We are playing a mix type of football. We are good on days (Everton, I missed it, but I read we were good that day) and some days we are a pain to watch. Jose needs to give some of the players some creative freedom and should be backed by the club hierarchy, at least for the next couple of windows and then see what can do be done. because our team needs stability and a sense of direction.


27.) 05 Jan 2018 06:40:09
Good Morning Ed

Unless all the financial analysts missed where the Glazers used the loans to invest in the business I don’t see how in any way the debt could be good for the club. The costs and interest etc would have been a massive burden over a long period as well. I can only assume you mean the other half of the story is the commercial acumen the owners brought to the club to increase its turnover?

{Ed002's Note - No. The whole matter has been dealt with at very great length before. Why are you bringing this up now?}


28.) 05 Jan 2018 09:53:27
Well posted Raghav. I also think on similar lines where the players should be offloaded to fund new ones. But then again the likes of Smalling won't get too much in terms of their price while the players we look for are premium players and there lies the problem. We need funding from the Glazers and Mourinho is right in demanding it.


29.) 05 Jan 2018 10:51:26
Agreed, a few of our players won't get too much, but then, over the last few years, haven't we been selling players for cheap anyway?


 

 

02 Jan 2018 10:40:03
I was disappointed with the first half as we were one placed and lacked movement but what a change in the second half. Shaw looks class, Pogba showed what he can be, Mata was excellent, and great movement from Martial and Jesse.

My question is why the dramatic change? I keep saying we have a good team that is not playing to its potential and last night showed it within the one game. Very interested to see the selection and formation for the next League game.

AJH

1.) 02 Jan 2018 11:52:01
Did Jose have a Stella half time team talk? He was out early and the commentators were saying he looked miserable and frustrated and that this would surely project onto the team.

What ever he did he should do it again every match!


2.) 02 Jan 2018 12:55:58
What they lacked in the 1st half was quality. They seemed to be working hard and trying things but concentration and quality was lacking in the final 3rd. It was a total 180 in the 2nd half.

I think that you will see matic and Herrera in CM with pogba roaming in the next game. Pogba was interviewed by NBC sports after the game and was quoted as saying how much he preferred that.

Martial will get the nod as CF for the foreseeable and to be honest that is a good thing because that is his best position IMO. If he capitalizes while others are out then he gives Jose a real headache. Lingard is a definite and the other position will be contested by Mata and Rashford. I think last night's starting 11 has a real chance now.


3.) 02 Jan 2018 16:36:54
Maybe Jose listened to Schlose after all lol.


4.) 02 Jan 2018 18:04:01
Scholes, along with every man and his dog except José, says Pogba is playing out of position. José plays him in right position for a change, and Pogba gives a very good performance. Am I missing something here?


5.) 02 Jan 2018 18:46:36
No Stevie, Jose hasn't a clue lol 😂 only messing.

Maybe He was hoping he could turn in the performances at centre midfield, or maybe he didn't fancy Herrera for whatever reason. Unfortunately it's not his best position though and Jose then played him where he plays best.


6.) 02 Jan 2018 21:03:36
Or maybe the manager thought that a guy who is meant to be one of the best players in his generation could play in a very slightly different position than the one he favours .


7.) 02 Jan 2018 21:44:30
Deano, it's more than a slight positional change. Pogba playing further forward boosts the whole impetus of our play.


8.) 03 Jan 2018 07:15:28
Deano, why would you buy a player for £89m who had established himself as a left sided attacking midfielder and then try to play him central midfield in a two man midfield. It's bonkers and it hasn't worked. But I can guarantee mourinho will revert back to this when lukaku is fit.


 

 

 

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I don’t think we park the bus much, but we haven’t been dominating the way we used to. I guess it’s swings and roundabouts, we had great posseshion stats with LVG but were dire, we now look much better but need to work on dominating more consistently. Burnley are a functional team and for much of the game it looked 50/ 50 but we have players who can make a real difference. Hopefully with Sanchez we give the opposition more to worry about.

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The challenge for Pogba is to do it consistently. Last game we was brilliant, this game he wasn’t. I think Burnley we’re trying to unsettle him and we’re effectvely ganging up to get him booked or sent off. Yet he states reasonable cool although he was sloppy and also seemed to want to score so he made poor decisions when other players were better placed. I thought Rashford looked lively but again he could have given it to Rom on a plate but didn’t. Very frustrating.

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