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02 Dec 2018 16:01:10
Even as a Jose fan I can see his position has become completely untenable. He's pulling all the stops out now to make his exit as quick as possible. He's set himself a target of top 4 by the end of December which we have no chance of getting. The constant little digs at the owners about our transfer policy and the washing of dirty laundry in public is clear that he wants away.

We are passed the point of no return. Will Ed Woodward and the board do what's best for the club and pull the trigger now? Not a hope! This little dance is going to go until we're mathematically out of the top 4 so we can save a few bob on Jose''s payout. The club also gets to save money in January. Like they did when they pulled out of numerous transfer dealings in January in LvG's last year. They will do the same again. I wonder will the excuse be "toxic" fans yet again?

If it's a caretaker manager until the end of the season that's ok. Then find a manager who is willing to match the club's ambitions. Which is that of a club competing for Champions League football.

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02 Dec 2018 16:18:06
Mumbles, but who in the summer? Poch? I think he will end up in Spain, Howe? Not ready for a while, Giggs? Not for me or a lot of supporters, Southgate? Most see him as a coach and not a manager, Blanc? What has he done, Zidane? I hope not, others may disagree. I personally feel that Diego Simeone would instill the agression and steel we seem to miss, he may not want to leave Spain, but why not sound him out.

02 Dec 2018 16:38:16
Simeone isn't exactly known for his beautiful free flowing football. A great manager, but one who I feel like Jose himself might be better suited for managing the underdogs where his mentality and style are more easily accepted.

We need a manager who will allow our players off the leash against the bottom half of the league at least.

02 Dec 2018 16:51:37
I honestly don't know what manager to go for. We should realistically be able to cherry pick 99% of managers but I think the very top coaches would think twice about taking us over.

02 Dec 2018 17:05:45
I really like Southgate, what he has done with England has been brilliant. He isn’t a sexy foreign name and he fell into the job but he’s created something. If he’s just a coach then so what, if he can create the right mentality and culture then that breeds confidence. I would happily take him as our next Manager,

02 Dec 2018 17:42:28
There's a great coach available in Jardim right now. His only problem was Monaco's lack of stability which is only matched by our own chairman. The club is a mess right now and the common denominator is Woodward. The players have downed tools and the manager is actively trying to get dismissed. It will take a long time to get back to the top but we should start by appointing a progressive coach who is hungry for success.

{Ed002's Note - He doesn't speak English.}

02 Dec 2018 17:48:20
Ed002 neither did Poch when he first came to England. Don't think it should rule him out, though it would be a stick to beat him with. Anyway he's just one name. There are other progressive coaches out there that, despite our chaotic things are, we should be able to attract.

{Ed002's Note - Yes he did. He spoke English but chose not to in interviews.}

02 Dec 2018 18:02:26
Well he used a translator for 1.5 years so for all intents and purposes we're splitting hairs. If you think Jardim is a non runner then that's fine. You've better knowledge than me on such things. We could also go for Lopetegui but I don't know at all about his linguistic proficiency.

{Ed002's Note - No, he ised a translator in interviews, his English was fine. Why are you being so anal over something you clearly have no idea about. It is embarrassing.}

02 Dec 2018 18:12:14
Jeez man. I think you're the one not moving past it. I said you've better knowledge on it so ease up. You do seem to want complete subserviency but, while I completely respect your knowledge, I'm not prepared to be rebuked for your own sensitivity. You decided to fixate on this rather than on the underlying question of whether being able to speak English initially should rule out a manager. Rather than continue the insults I would genuinely be interested in whether that's your opinion and why.

{Ed002's Note - You don't seem to get the entire issue. Zidane doesn't speak English and has been talking lessons. Jardim doesn't speak English to an understandable level and has already rejected one job in England because of his problems over communication. Pochettino never had an issue with the language. Ranieri spoke little English when he first arrived in 2000 and took an intensive course but was lucky that Chelsea' player liaison officer (the fat bloke you see hanging around the tunnel) is fluent in Italian. Jardim is not wanted by MU - if he becomes wanted it means that they have not got who they want. And a massive hurdle needs to be overcome before anything will happen.}

02 Dec 2018 18:18:19
By the way ed002 I'm just messaging without wanting to get into strife. I follow football and United in particular for enjoyment. I don't often comment but expected not to be called embarrassing. I'll step back from the site in future. Your knowledge is needed more than my opinion. I just think, for your own sake, that you'd be better off not looking for animosity where it doesn't exist.

{Ed002's Note - I am more than happy to post nothing on the Manchester United pages - the page has already talked your way out of a lengthy update from Milan last week - you feel free to carry on and I will not bother any longer.}

02 Dec 2018 18:22:35
Ed002, are there any managers out there in Europe doing good things under the radar? Not necessarily for United, just curious as to the next batch elite coaches are.

{Ed002's Note - Sorry - I am not going to bother with the Manchester United page for a while. It is a waste of time.}

02 Dec 2018 18:23:57
Thank you for that very interesting information. I don't pretend to be an insider and was hoping for this type of info. Think you misinterpreted my previous message: I meant that to the media and general optics we were splitting hairs (that's what I was referring to as a stick to beat him with) . Anyway thanks again.

02 Dec 2018 18:32:18
Apologies mumbles et al. Ed002 clearly has taken issue with me. Life is tough enough without worrying about walking on eggshells here. As promised my attempts to engage here will cease now but I'll look forward to ed002 updates again.

{Ed002's Note - I don't want you to cease DoRed (if that is your real name). It is very clear to me that the Manchester United page has zero interest in transfer rumours (the primary purpose of this site of old), clearly think that anything about a breakaway league is something I made up 8 years or so ago when I first started helping out the folk who run the site) and have really little grasp about what is happening at the club. So my input really doesn't help at all. It is all fantasy football stuff and let's get this world class manger in and who cares if he can communicate with the players. In the British pomp - not really my cup of tea. But don't step back because of me - if I called you a shaven-headed, lager-swilling, pot-pellied, tattooed knuckledragging oaf or something similar, I apologise.}

02 Dec 2018 18:57:40
Think you're vastly underestimating how valued you are here. I have read this page for years primarily due to yourself and ed001. Think we just got crossed wires (and I'm never too keen to have my lack of knowledge exposed ;) ) . I thought I was a straw breaking the camel's back, and wanted to take back the straw. In any case that insight and teaser about what the club are after is far more interesting than my random thoughts.

{Ed002's Note - I am pretty sure that you cannot break a camel's back with a straw. Perhaps a chainsaw would help?}



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