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18 Jun 2019 00:27:56
Word on the grape vine is, Barcelona have more pressing areas in their squad than signing De Ligt. He's been advised against PSG. Looks like it could be between us and Juventus. If we could secure him, it would be a major coup. A young vocal leader is what we are desperately missing. Here's hoping we have some solid news in the next few days!


1.) 18 Jun 2019 07:14:24
The best move for the player would be to Juventus. Always has been in my eyes.

2.) 18 Jun 2019 09:41:29
Not sure about him. For the money there is better available in the market. Expectations on a child to pull a rotten defence together is not optimal.

3.) 18 Jun 2019 10:20:35
The best move for the player is the premier league, no doubt about it. He knows it, has already went on record saying it, the most competitive league is a good place for a supposed once in a generation defender to grow.

Unfortunately, we are not in a position where such signings ( along with Sancho ofc) who are targeted by Europe's elite will come to us. Mourinho and less so Van Gaal had the gravitas to at least show that the team is led by a proven winner and it s only a matter of time until we get back there.

4.) 18 Jun 2019 10:35:53
The best club for him right now will be Barcelona where Pique can guide him. He will also have FDJ for settling in.
Next would be Juventus, where he can learn from the likes of Chellini and Bonucci.
In the above 2 clubs, the main attention would be on Messi and Cristiano which means lesser pressure on him.



31 May 2018 07:02:14
Before we start this is only something iv read. Its a nice old school rumour with a story. I'm paraphrasing a bit but apparently our new sleeve sponsor is "Kohler" (an American manufacturing comapny) .

So the story goes that the guy who brokered the deal let it slip to someone that we have activated Griezmann''s release clause. Him accepting our offer is a different matter. Either way he won't be announcing where he's going until after the world cup.

If the the sleeve sponsor announced in the next two weeks is Kohler, then maybe this has legs.

Woodward is always looking for the big "markee" signing. Maybe Antoine is it?


1.) 31 May 2018 07:28:53
Mumbles I read exactly the same thing last night and not going to lie it got me very excited. I am very sceptical but there could be some truth in it. I would have thought Barcelona would have had this deal wrapped by now. But I think there is something to do with his release clause being activated at a certain date. I would love griezmann he is my preferred no 1 signing this summer. At least will if we announce the Koehler sleeve sponsor then perhaps we can get excited by this.

2.) 31 May 2018 09:07:19
I wouldn't be surprised if this was part of a strategy to get Bale, There is obvious interest in Bale and the numbers being quoted since he scored in the final seem to have increased maybe this is our way of saying if the price is to much we can go elsewhere. The good thing for us is there is a lot of top talent available just now so hopefully we don't get held to ransom as much as normal. Saying that with the names being thrown around looking for a move in the summer anyone else massively regretting buying Sanchez.

3.) 31 May 2018 09:30:52
Havent seen those Griezman rumours but its always struck me as odd that JM hasn't kept him in the frame . obviously wanted him and by all accounts we were close to getting him - now he is "available" again, human nature says JM just suddenly would not be interested in him -yes we got RL "instead" Fergie always wanted Batistuta, Van Persie, Lewondowski . so I can imagine JM has always considerd Griezeman as one that got away.

Griezeman meets EDS galatico policy and JM likes him a lot. so its not completely impossible just very doubtful to me.

Martial leaving puts a new slant on it all, if that's what happens this summer as the lad seems unsettled.

4.) 31 May 2018 10:03:11
Martial keeps his counsel very close to his chest too which I do like. Has he been quoted anywhere saying he is keen to leave or indeed stay?

5.) 31 May 2018 10:45:29
First time I've heard of kohler so well done to them.

6.) 31 May 2018 23:44:33
Read the Kohler would like a partnership with Koke also.



12 Nov 2017 07:06:11
I just seen that we're linked with a move for Asensio. I would have thought he'd be one of the key men in the Madrid rebuild over the next few years.


1.) 12 Nov 2017 12:41:31
didnt he sign a new contract in the summer with a ridiculous buyout clause?

2.) 12 Nov 2017 13:38:11
I think if he is available he would be moving to Barcelona but itd be stupid to sell him as he is as big talent as Mbappe.



20 Aug 2017 00:13:28
Steady improvement is all you can ask for in football. We've improved the squad with some quality players. Our attacking players have hit the ground running, 4 different scorers today. Last year we were grinding out 1-0's always looking like we were capable of conceding late. I know it's early days but when we go up against the little piggies who built their house out of brick, we won't huff and puff, we just kick the front door in!

We have options from the bench. We have different combinations in midfield depending on the opposition. Maybe lacking a back up striker and a full back but we have players who could fill in for shirt periods of time.

The old cliché rings true. Take each game as they come. We have pace, power, guile, height attacking set pieces. A mixed bag to cause any team problems. A couple more of those results and the fear factor will well and truly be back!


1.) 20 Aug 2017 09:52:45
Omg I just said a similar thing to this Mumbles. That we need a fullback predominantly right I think. That we need a right forward. Don't forget Martial and Rushford can play central of we get an injury to Lukaku. But I agree two more would be great. Although it'll be hard I think.

2.) 20 Aug 2017 11:55:48
Totally agree, the signs are good. Two different games and the same result, if we can do this against good opposition as well then we will romp the league. Punishing teams is a great thing because it will scare teams when they go a goal down, recent seasons opponents always thought they could win from a goal down or at least draw - now they may fear a pasting if they open up - nice to give opposition something to think about for once as it has been too easy for managers to know how to set-up against us and exactly how we will play.

3.) 20 Aug 2017 13:20:03
I think its the left back sydney, not right. Blind looked like he didn't want the ball yesterday and usually passes backwards.

4.) 20 Aug 2017 13:41:02
Nonsense. Blind was always an option and played well.

5.) 20 Aug 2017 13:50:17
Granted his delivery yesterday was not perfect, but defensively he was excellent again and always offers an outlet.

6.) 20 Aug 2017 14:05:09
I like Blind a lot he always tries has an excellent football brain and can pass well but and it is a big but. he is not fast and most right wingers or attacking fullbacks beat him. He will be targeted and against the better teams he will cost us goals if played against left back.

7.) 20 Aug 2017 17:03:51
Eric - Not sure how you can say it's 'nonsense' when most fans agree with the point. Blind is a passenger, he offered zero going forward. Every time he got the ball he passed it backwards or inside, never gave an option for the wide player, no overlaps and he was frequently letting the ball bounce in the box or was lucky to escape being flat footed when balls came in. We won despite Blind, not because of Blind.

It's very similar when Rojo plays out there. I find myself simply hoping for an average performance, because the alternative is disaster. Most other teams have full backs that are great assets and support the attackers, Blind can't offer that because he is very slow and by committing forward (where he offers little) he is exposing himself to a counter attack because he couldn't catch treacle.

Sad but true, he is not good enough as a full back and against good teams we would get punished.

8.) 20 Aug 2017 18:38:55
didn't rashford start off as a right winger? maybe try him there with martial on the left, but martial reminds me of olly comes off bench and does brill.

9.) 20 Aug 2017 20:17:11
Ole didn't cost us in excess of 50 million.

10.) 20 Aug 2017 21:16:45
Beast mate, I think we'll be alright against the top teams. Jose likes the play a tight game somewhat defensive against better opposition. I think Herrera will come in for those big games. A midfield of him closing down and winning the ball back, Pogba further up marauding with a free pass and Matic being the insurance, I think that's the best midfield 3 in the league.

But my favourite part of the make up of the team is very much akin to the 90's united. We have the players to play with the ball on the deck if you want a game of football. We have physically imposing players if you want a battle. We have height to defend a last minute barrage into the box and we have the players with the guile to open up stubborn defences. And something tells me we aren't done in the transfer market either.

11.) 20 Aug 2017 21:21:17
yeah mark let's start trying to fit people in again. No!, let's get specialists in positions we need.

12.) 20 Aug 2017 22:53:09
Blind is a utility player - a defensive one. To criticise him for not bombing forward and neglecting his primary duties of defending is simply ridiculous. In case nobody saw, we kept another clean sheet with him at left back. He tackled well, was solid, and never gave any of their players a sniff?

Two games in, we have scored 8 and conceded 0 yet there are those on here never happy - Beast mate you being a Primary culprit. Enjoy the moment - may not happen again all season! Thankfully Jose doesn't take any of our master tactical analaysis or transfer knowledge on board and picks a team for each match he thinks will win us marches. His career record speaks for itself so I'll leave it to him and enjoy watching us play fun football for the first time in years again.

13.) 20 Aug 2017 23:15:40
Totally agree about Blind. He doesn't offer anything going forward always cuts back and is afraid to overlap because he knows he can't get back quick enough if it breaks down. His crossing is very poor and they are always from deep, hopefully shaw can come back and find some form, wouldn't like to see blind starting against any if our rivals.

14.) 21 Aug 2017 12:16:18
Blind is not pacy enough to be a specialist left back, but when Shaw returns he'll take that slot, and help Rashford in the process. However, he is still a great utility player to call upon, whether in that position, centre half or defensive midfielder.

Gary Neville wasn't the fastest, but he could read the game and was rarely caught out of position. Blind is a very intelligent player, and from what I've seen of him, he rarely gets into a position where he has to run one on one with a winger.

15.) 21 Aug 2017 17:39:03
Blind rarely let's us down. What he lacks in pace he makes up in positioning and reading of the game. Also tidy on the ball.
A very good back up and utility player for me.
Doesn't deserve th stick.



09 Jul 2017 17:11:39
Evening Ed. We're all pretty up to date with the potential incoming signings. In regards to the potential outgoing players it all seems a bit quiet. We know there's interest from Italy from Darmain and Rooney has left. With Lindelof arriving, I'd imagine one of Jones, Smalling and Rojo being surplus to requirements. Do you know if the club is willing to look at offers for these players?

You've said we're interested in a right back and a left back. Seemingly if we did get Semedo, him and Valencia would share the position until it would eventually go to Semedo full time. But the left back position was chopped and changed so much last year. Is Shaw in danger of being sold? Has he any suitors? I'd imagine his high wages and fee being an issue for a prospective buyer.

Sorry to overload on one post but is there any interest in Blind? I could see him potentially going.

And last but not least. Martial is the big one. Is there interest in him and is Jose willing to part with him.

Very much appreciated mate!


{Ed002's Note - I have dealt with all of this before and it hasn't changed much:
Matteo Darmian
Marcus Rojo
Phil Jones (may not survive the planned Summer cull)
Ashley Young (Summer)
Michael Carrick (will not get a new contract unless no replacement is available in the Summer - else a one year extension)
Wayne Rooney (if Griezmann/Perisic signs)
De Gea (possibly out Summer but a dependency on Real Madrid renewing interest)
Sergio Romero (possibly - might depend on what happens with De Gea)
Zlatan Ibrahimovic
Luke Shaw
Ander Herrera (will stay after patching up the issue)
Juan Mata (possibly - maybe probably later in the window)

1.) 09 Jul 2017 18:19:36
Thanks loads for updated info Ed!

2.) 09 Jul 2017 18:23:52
I for one would be really peed off if mata was sold.

He is a class player and when he plays he is one of only a few who get the team ticking.

Ed can I ask what was the issue with Herrera?

{Ed002's Note - It is unimportant.}

3.) 09 Jul 2017 19:29:46
Ed002, with you having Rooney going with Griezmann or Perisic coming in, does that mean Perisic is a done or close to being done deal with them already letting Rooney go?
I think he'd be a brilliant signing!

{Ed002's Note - No, don't read stuff in to everything.}

4.) 09 Jul 2017 19:33:36
Herrera told the media that the City game was our biggest game of the season, Jose was playing it as just another three points.

Like every manager when dealing with the media you don't go off script and contradict them. They have since kissed and made up, but I suspect Pogba might be made captain rather than Herrera because of this issue.

5.) 09 Jul 2017 20:33:16
Herrera and Barcelona talk whilst on international duty was the reason jose was p'd off I believe.
Inter haven't been offered enough cash is the Perisic situation.

6.) 09 Jul 2017 20:15:02
lads, save the date and time of the above post and anyone who asks the same question, this week, next week or the weeks after, let them know where to find it. As much as all the banter is good, i generally scan through to find the eds reply. i'd imagine others are the same, the search function is great if you have time, but some of us don't, so perhaps a gentle hint in the exact direction by regular visitors would alleviate the constant requests the eds have to put up with. i'd be gutted if Mata left too.

7.) 09 Jul 2017 21:36:33
The search function is great, but an answer to the same question 2 weeks ago isn't likely to be the same now with how fast situations are moving and changing daily.

If Perisic doesn't happen because we won't match their valuation, does anyone know of the alternatives we might go for?

8.) 09 Jul 2017 21:55:27
Emil forsberg, but a deal is highly unlikely!

9.) 09 Jul 2017 22:36:37
That would be amazing, he was a machine last season. If inter won't accept 45m for Perisic might be better offering that for Fosberg. Think a few 30m bids went in for him a bit ago.

10.) 10 Jul 2017 09:42:04
I believe with purchase of Lindelof, Blind would be moved back to midfiled as direct replacement to Carrick. So it's difficult to see if smalling is sold.

11.) 10 Jul 2017 13:48:11
Blind a direct replacement for Carrick? Daley Blind? Wow.

Wouldn't bother me if any of them left, Mata is a nice bloke but doesn't cut it on the pitch, too weak and too slow for a Jose team, I really like him and don't mind if he stays but doubt he will be first choice and shouldn't be.




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24 Jun 2019 12:34:38
If it's true that Palace are set on their price and also want a sell on clause from Zaha''s transfer removed, we should walk away. He's a talented player but enough is enough. We have a valuation, they have a valuation. If those two are far apart then we should be going onto our next option.


1.) 24 Jun 2019 12:58:36
its 10 million more than what we first offered,

yeah there are different steps to a transfer but for us to be told we want 50 million for then to bid 35 million with addons is a joke on our part.

just pay the extra 10 million and get the deal done.

the window shuts in 40 odd days and we still have bought no one in defense.

2.) 24 Jun 2019 13:03:11
maybe buy zaha and wan bissaka from palace this summer, would sort out the fact that we haven't used the right hand side of the pitch for 5 years.

3.) 24 Jun 2019 13:05:36
It sounds like we are holding every other deal off until this one is done. Amateurish. We only have one person that can discuss a transfer and he can't negotiate more than one at any given time?

4.) 24 Jun 2019 13:11:38
I agree completely but we need to draw a line in the sand. If they won't budge on 50, either pay up or move on. The reason we constantly get our pants pulled down when going for transfers is because we are so predictable.

Ole wanted the signings in before pre season so he could obviously work on fitness. We have a lot of work to do behind scenes. We have a free run at AWB. It shouldn't be difficult to get the deal over the line. If it is difficult, then move on.

5.) 24 Jun 2019 13:19:17
1 week to go for pre-season.

6.) 24 Jun 2019 16:02:52
Mumbles, i fully agree. Also, the fact we have a free run at AWB is worrying. Both City and Spurs could be looking at RBs, so why are they not involved? He's completely overpriced and i think will be a huge mistake if we bought him. He's good at tackling and that's it. No end product, no flexibility, terrible at passing. Max Aarons at Norwich is the one we should be chasing.

7.) 24 Jun 2019 16:16:07
AAA, have you watched much of the championship?

who is this aarons? i know he has won young player of the season but that's it.

8.) 24 Jun 2019 16:17:02
Bothe City and Spurs have first choice rbs which AWB will not be happy with. We can offer him game time which they won't be able to guarantee unless their first choice gets injured.

To be fair i wouldn't even sign him as he is similar age to Dalot and i would rather go for an older head but let's see what happens.

9.) 24 Jun 2019 18:56:46
Having watched the U21 and yes it was only one game, AWB worried me. They say a United player has to be brave and he looked nervous, the occasion looked like it got to him and if it was the United speculation, imagine what it will be like when he wears the shirt, then his distribution was not good. It made me think step back and re-evaluate. Not saying don’t buy him but an awful lot of money is being asked.

Dalot looks a better player to be honest, stepped into some key games and didn’t look phased, PSG away being one. Why spend £50m+, I am with AAA to be honest but I haven’t seen Aarons.

10.) 25 Jun 2019 00:51:13
Bolger, yes, i have watched a lot of championship games and Norwich have a very good unit. Both fullbacks are quick and attack minded. They'll surprise many people.
I agree fully with Red Man re AWB, he's clumsy at passing, terrible touch, and can't turn quickly. Only attribute is his tackling. Way overpriced and i wouldn't buy him for half the price even. Come Xmas, the huge mistake we're about to make will become apparent.



08 Jun 2019 14:11:03
Hi ed002. What is it about swap deals that the English clubs don't like? With the increasing prices for players and the added risk involved, surely offsetting some of the value by adding players is beneficial to both parties.


{Ed002's Note - Well it limits choice of player so some clubs keep clear of it.}

1.) 08 Jun 2019 19:26:01
Last one worked out pretty well.



26 May 2019 14:14:48
If the De Ligt story is true and we're willing to pay a 19 year old centre back those exorbitant wages, I feel like we're not learning from our mistakes. We already have a bloated squad with many players on wages that don't match their on field quality. Paying a teenager a reported quarter of million a week is just going throw the whole team out of balance. And it's a dangerous precedent going forward to any new potential signings.

I was really hoping this season we would trim the wage budget down, stop being attracted to the shiny big name players, and start making smart signings that fit a system that Ole wants to play.

If the only way we can beat the likes of Barcelona, Madrid, Bayern, City to players is by offering them huge wages and bonuses, then we are looking at the wrong player. The squad needs a complete reboot. We need new players that are willing to buy into Manchester United because they feel privileged to play for us, not because we're doubling the wages.

The kid does look like a magnificent player, but with Mino as his agent, he's going to be angling for a move within 24 months.


1.) 26 May 2019 14:53:31
If your good enough your old enough.

2.) 26 May 2019 14:56:08
I would say the same about felix as well, looks an outstanding player.

3.) 26 May 2019 15:53:56
We paid lingard a 100k when he was truly rubbish, just a few weeks ago renewed jones's contract. i think the precedent has long been set. I will never get this privileged to play for us business. We aren't some temple or church folks its a business, players are employees. Our problem isn't overpaying, it is overpaying the wrong players. Also if there is a system that some how can't fit a physically dominant ball playing cb like de ligt, I would say there is something wrong with the system.

{Ed001's Note - he wouldn't fit in either City's nor Liverpool's system, nor Spurs, does that mean there is something wrong with the way they all play? De Ligt is bizarrely overrated for someone who has proven the sum total of absolutely nothing.}

4.) 26 May 2019 16:42:25
why would he not fit their system?

{Ed001's Note - because he is slower than a week of Mondays.}

5.) 26 May 2019 16:59:28
come on ed. He isn't the most quickest but then niether was vidic, and my comment about the tactics wasn't about a CL finalist or current champions of epl but about a team that finished 6th and won nada this season. He is a good defender who is already better than anything we have and has potential to be world's best but most importantly he brings in a bit of leadership, something this team is very much lacking. Also is there really a better cb available that we could get.

{Ed001's Note - I don't see the relevance to Vidic? You said there must be something wrong with the system if De Ligt wouldn't fit, I was just pointing out that you are wrong. There are multiple ways of playing but there are 3 successful clubs in the English league that he would not fit in their system, so it is clearly not a wrong system, just he is a limited player that needs to play a certain way or in a crap league like the Eredivisie or La Liga. Where most weeks the only thing he will have to do is pass the ball around, not defend. The moment he gets put under pressure defensively in a high-paced game he will be found wanting.

He is not a good defender, he is very good on the ball, but he is not particularly good defensively and there is no way he is potentially the world's best! There are so many better that play in Germany, for instance, where they are playing a much closer style of play than they do in Holland, so will find it easier to adapt and are easier to judge. It is also a much better level of football.

If it was me I would be buying one of the RB Leipzig duo that are 20 years of age and performed at a high level for years, rather than having a few good months like De Ligt.}

6.) 26 May 2019 17:18:12
Ed001 you mention the German league and I wonder what you think of Jonathan Tah? I think he'd suit the PL perfectly.

{Ed001's Note - I think so too. A bit ropey positionally but he has recovery pace to make up for it.}

7.) 26 May 2019 17:21:08
I think we need to seriously have a rethink about what we pay players.

It's one thing to pay a proven world class player a huge 200k+ wage when they are in their prime years.

But a completely different one to pay a young player with potential a world class 200k+ a week wage. As if you start paying 19 or 20 year olds 200k a week then what will you end up paying them three years down the line when they are due a renewal? At that point they will be in their early twenties and still 3-4 years away from their peak years, which at that point you will need to renew their contract for a second time.

We are having that issue to some extent with DDG now. He wants 350k+ per week, but as a keeper he will be due another renewal in 3-4 years time. What will it be then 500k+ for a goalkeeper who will only start to decline.

8.) 26 May 2019 20:02:59
Strongly agree Mumbles spot on mate.



21 Apr 2019 19:28:16
Ole is going to have to run The Crucible a lot sooner than he thought, and how he comes out of this test will shape the future of this club.

If that performance isn't proof that this squad is broken, then I don't know what is. Ole looked genuinely hurt. I'd love for him to drop the majority of that squad for the remaining 4 games. They don't deserve to wear to shirt.

The bare minimum you should do as a professional football is work hard. Tactics fail, players make mistakes, you can have a bad game, but if you're going to put on a Man Utd jersey, bare minimum is effort. The squad is rotten.

Lingard releasing his new clothing line during the week. I get that footballers have other interests. Wait 3 weeks, focus on your football. Manchester United used to be a club that secured sponsors to help us achieve our goals on the pitch. Now we're advertising company that sometimes plays some football.

I said it after the Barcelona game and I'll say it again. Rip it up and start again!


1.) 21 Apr 2019 19:42:39
Great post mumbles.

2.) 21 Apr 2019 19:43:54
Don't think there is much there that anyone can disagree with Mum lea. Spot on.

3.) 21 Apr 2019 20:01:32
Mum lea - Mumbles obviously!

4.) 21 Apr 2019 20:37:55
Good post mumbles.
Betty don't be so sure. The odd one has a line drawn in the sand and they are not for turning.

5.) 21 Apr 2019 20:41:10
Everton ran 8k more. That's shocking and shaming.

6.) 21 Apr 2019 20:56:52
I thought that this was a good squad?

7.) 21 Apr 2019 20:59:31
Mort - worse than that I saw a stat today that as a team we have been out-run by the opposition in 15 or 17 games under Ole. What makes that even worse is the fact that more players have been getting forwards than under Jose, so that can't just be down to tactics. Yet again, we need to look at the personnel on the pitch, not the ones sat on the sidelines.

8.) 21 Apr 2019 21:38:51
No sorry Betty apparently its all the manager. Out of his depth. Its never the players. Its tactics, the manager, the weather, the ball, Harvey the rabbit, Santa Claus.

9.) 21 Apr 2019 21:39:39
But in Oles first few games we out ran the opposition. He made a point out of saying it's the bare minimum to be a Man Utd player. That was his first few games. What changed?

10.) 21 Apr 2019 21:46:08
Cos they're a pack of lazy persons mumbles. They know the seasons over, nothing to play for. Some of them also know their off in the summer whether its out of contract or transfer. So their not bothering to play.

11.) 21 Apr 2019 22:52:42
No but wait guys Ole has got 30 points in 15 games and mourinho 25 in 15 games. Hahahha

On a serious note - Ole isn't the right manager but he needs the chance to clear out 60 percent from our first team.

Smalling, Jones, Young, Matic, Perera shouldn't be anywhere near the first teamyet we game 2 of them a new contract and i think Woodeard needs his head checked.

Pogba, Martial and Lukaku they can leave too as they won't win us any titles and that dejected look on Martial when he misses a chance is just classic.

Apart from DeGea, Dalot and maybe Rashford it wouldn't bother me if any of the others left or not.

On a a side note Pogba did look like he was running around chasing balls for a change but i just think everyone else was just poor.

This isn't a quick fix like Ole said and its going to be another 3 or 4 years of winning nothing.

12.) 21 Apr 2019 23:51:38
For all u folks who are angry right now, I just say, its my birthday today and my team just a performance for the ages and not in a good way.

What's the opposite of a birthday present?


13.) 22 Apr 2019 01:38:37
I want ole to be a given a fair chance but it's hard to defend him when he plays our best CB at rb and a rb at lb. On top of that plays rashford wide and lukaku up top.

We don't have a good enough squad that much is clear the over reliance of Pogba to create is killing us. People talk about Herrera matic fred mctominay none of them create anything the whole midfield creativity is down to one man and when lukaku and martial have zero movement there is no real threat as pogba has no one to give it to.

Huge transfer window needed and it seems like some strong man management to motivate these players is going to be needed to because despite everything we are only 2 points of top 4 and the rest are also inconsistent. We don't have to be good just not as bad as the other 4 teams.

14.) 22 Apr 2019 06:35:11
Great post Mumbles.

mnk. It's because we don't have any other options.
Everyone wanted Young dropped.
Now there is no cover or squad depth to address the problem.
Shaw suspended means we have no left back.
Lindelof has played right back at times for Benfica and Sweden.



17 Apr 2019 14:11:01
The scoreline last night wasn't shocking, Barcelona on their day can beat anyone 3-0. The shocking thing was the heartless display from the Manchester United team. And that's from everyone, including our manager. I've always been an optimist, but the last few months have made me fear drastically about the future of our club. No heart, no leadership, no passion, no chance. If some of those players showed the same passion they do for instagram, then we might stand a chance.

A rudderless ship with no identity, made up of players from 4 different managers, soon to be 5. People talk about the 'United Way' but that's a load of pony, we spend money like a second generation rich kid paying silly sums of money for players we don't necessarily need, knowing full well that there's more money around the corner.

Ed002 has said numerous times that our wage budget is basically maxed out. We need to sell before we buy big. Think about that for a second; Manchester United, a club that has been at the forefront of making money in the football world. We have the third biggest wage bill behind Barcelona and Real Madrid and look what it gets us; a squad of 'Pretenders', who are happy to wear the great Manchester United badge in training, show up to games with the United badge on their suits. Cash their pay cheques with the United badge in the corner and feel like they belong at an elite club, but they are 'Pretenders'.

As a club we are also 'Pretenders', the Glazers don't particularly care if we win anything or not. We make enough money to pay their dividends. They have a club worth around £4 billion in their portfolio. Our iconic stadium has been downgraded, it's now not good enough to host a European final anymore. Much like everything else from the club, it is slowly decaying. The cracks are becoming more and more visible every year.

This isn't a reaction to getting beaten by Barcelona, this is a reaction to watching a Manchester United team that I have no connection to. I watch every game, but do I have a favourite player? No, would I be upset if I woke up to the news that any player has left? No.

I had Solskjaer on my jersey as a kid, he was my favourite player. He was a lot of people's favourite player. His return reminded me of when a struggling T.V. show's rating has dropped well below par. The quick and easy way to boost the ratings is to bring back and old star - Maybe Fonzy (American sitcom Happy Days) wasn't available.

I could list off a few points why I think Ole Gunnar Solskjaer being giving the Manager's job is a mistake, but then I just think of that squad and I shake my head! There's loads of ways we could turn this around over the next few years, but those involve the structure of the club changing, and that's probably not going to happen. I don't know if other fans would be happy, but I would honestly sell the majority of the first team, and rebuild it with academy players and hungry young players. Not players that had a good 6 months and are now earning about £120,000 per week.

We need to change the identity of this club because it is slowly crumbling all around us. Manchester United having the third highest wage bill in football is gross negligence i think.


1.) 17 Apr 2019 14:24:05
What a post Mumbles! Take a bow. Brilliant.

2.) 17 Apr 2019 16:06:34
Great Post mumbles.

3.) 17 Apr 2019 16:18:47
Maybe you are just getting a bit older and are out of touch with modern football lol.

Just kidding but i think you are going over the top, ole just needs to commit to a style of play and drill it into the players.

Once we have a set way of playing it will make it easier to recruit the correct profile of player and more importantly determine the players we need to get rid of.

Are we going to commit to play out from the back? If so then smalling will have to leave and de gea will either have to leave or up his game.

Are we going to commit to a high press? Then lukaku will have to leave and rashford will lead the line.

Are we going to commit to using the whole football pitch and actually venture down the right hand side of it. Then we will have to sign a new right back and right winger.

4.) 17 Apr 2019 17:55:35
The problem is we have no direction. The owners aren't concerned as long as the money rolls in. They've made the money available but its been pissed away on some frankly shocking buys. The fact last night we had most of the back 4 from 2011 and are still playing converted wingers shows the lack of planning.

5.) 17 Apr 2019 19:19:25
The lack of communication is worrying. And that stops with Woodward. What direction are we supposed to be going in? What's the long term strategy?

6.) 17 Apr 2019 23:05:41
Top. post mumbles.

7.) 17 Apr 2019 23:24:42
We talk about young players getting a chance, the United way and all that waffle, but yet ole starts young and we bought dalot supposed to be a talent, anyone that knows anything about football can see young is finished at that level.
Ole needs to be ruthless forget about the smiles for a while.
And the stupid talk about not parking in the bosses car space, get over it ole you supposed to be the boss now, stop talking about the boss every time you get interviewed.




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22 Apr 2019 12:55:25
Bolger, that's such a naive viewpoint. The club has spent a tonne of money since the Glazers took over, and the majority of signings have been poor to say the least. But to say the Glazers are not the problem is plain and simply wrong.

Since they bought the club in 2005 they have taken over 1 billion pounds from the club. Every penny of that money was money that the club generated itself. Just for context, 1 billion is roughly what the City owners have invested into City.

As owners I have no problem with them taking dividends from the club, but the club had to pay serious interest on an incredibly hefty loan. Around 70 million pounds a year. 70 million nowaday gets you one Lukaku, but in 2005 that amount could get you two Aguero's.

We sold Ronaldo for a world record fee, lost Tevez to our Neighbours. And in that summer Fergie uttered that sentence that sends shivers down my spine "There is no value in the market".

Not all of that money the Glazers pilfered from the club would have been made available for transfers. But even if half of it was, at a time when world class players were going for 30/ 40 million, we could have kept on top. But we didn't. Owen and Valencia replaced Cristiano Ronaldo.

Bolger, the club has used it's own money every step of the way. The Glazers are proactive when it looks like their golden goose is in trouble. Expect a window were we spend big, but we won't spend clever.

We've been fighting with both hands tied behind our back for too long. If you just want to see how little the Glazers care about the club, look at the stadium. Every one of our rivals have upgraded their stadium in some way. Ours has recently been downgraded, Old Trafford is no longer suitable to host European finals. Shocking.

But the Glazers aren't that bad. They let us use our own money to buy players when they're not using it.




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14 Apr 2019 17:55:29
Ed002 pointed out that we're looking at players that Jose wanted, but the club refused to purchase. That alone shows you there is no planning. We'll buy random players, for random systems, for different managers and hope that one clicks.

Ole really needs to grab this opportunity with two hands because it will never come again. The ruthless Ole that his old teammates talk about would want to put his stamp on this team.

The sad thing is, if Jose can't get the board to buy what we need, then Ole, a fan of the club at his dream job isn't going to ruffle any feathers. But I sincerely hope he does.




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23 Mar 2019 22:43:09
Wazza, ed002 has said the problem with finding a Director of football is Woodward. The man with the job to find a DoF, doesn't want to relinquish control. He'd rather spend the entire summer flashing a bit of thigh at Gareth Bale or another "superstar" player instead of trying to build a squad with an identity.

He's a huge problem on the football side of things.




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22 Mar 2019 12:22:32
Woodward has snookered us behind the black ball. A club with our turnover and money making ability is currently at our capacity for wages. Woodward and the club's lack of a plan is stopping us from moving forward. Ed's short termism in signing players on huge wages ie Zlatan and Alexis was a disaster.

Ed002 said we were in precarious situation with our wages which was solved when we paid Zlatan off and got him off the wage bill. Alexis wages dwarf our best players. So we have very little wiggle room to get new players in without getting players off the wage bill. De Gea, Herrera are let run their contracts dangerously low but Smalling and Jones are signed up even though both could/ should be surplus.

The man with a career in banking might be good at getting a top dollar noodle sponsorship but the actual running of the football side of the club is a shambles.




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05 Feb 2019 10:24:47
We rotated a small bit against Burnley and struggled to play the way we have been. We're covering a lot more ground than those players are used to and it's already showing at the end of games, there is a considerable drop off in terms of intensity.

But this is how Ole earns his corn. As you said, it's really only the midfield that seems slightly shirt but we still should have enough to rotate and beat Fulham on Saturday.





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24 Jun 2019 13:11:38
I agree completely but we need to draw a line in the sand. If they won't budge on 50, either pay up or move on. The reason we constantly get our pants pulled down when going for transfers is because we are so predictable.

Ole wanted the signings in before pre season so he could obviously work on fitness. We have a lot of work to do behind scenes. We have a free run at AWB. It shouldn't be difficult to get the deal over the line. If it is difficult, then move on.




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22 Jun 2019 13:17:54
The forward players you'd have left at the club Shapps are in no way good enough to get us into the Europa league next year let alone top 4. I certainly wouldn't feel comfortable with those attackers. Midfield looks great though.




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22 Jun 2019 00:42:53
It's a lack of forward planning with the contracts. We have too many CBs with Jones, Smalling, Rojo, Lindelof and Bailey. Rojo will leave, but if we are to sign a top centre back this window, then one of the other 4 should also be sold. Lindelof is currently our best defender, Smalling and Jones only signed long term contracts so that points to Bailey leaving.

Since Ole took over Young, Jones and Smalling have signed new deals. Now I know Ole doesn't have a complete say in contract renewals but he should have been asked who he fancies.

I'd imagine we gave Jones a new contract to protect his value. But the main problem is now, we have a player that is on a high wage that no other team will touch. So instead of cutting your losses and letting him go for free. We tie him down to a 4 year contract on 120k a week and I'll bet dollars to donuts that he sees out at least 3 of those years.

Our wage bill is the third highest in the world because we keep giving average players bumper deals. I can't see a plan or a strategy. Tie up Young, Jones and Smalling. Let De Gea, Herrera and Mata run down their contracts. And then in the 11th hour, sign Mata up for a few more years, sure why not?




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20 Jun 2019 18:06:48
I have a huge problem with Lingards personality in that squad. He should be becoming a senior member of the squad turning 27 this year and he is nothing short of embarrassing. I don't know if it's a coincidence that Rashfords lost his humbleness when senior figures left the squad and JLingz was the one the younger players look up to.

He's a Manchester United academy graduate, in the first team, in a turbulent time in our history. He's not even a decent player to be putting up with this nonsense.




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17 Jun 2019 14:40:28
Nobody is disputing that the lad has immense talent. When he is in the mood he is suberb, but that is not nearly consistent enough. Plus he comes with baggage and he doesn't want to play for us.

As well there seems to be a clique with him at the helm being quite poisonous to the team. The superstar player his PR team have concocted isn't the true representation of him. The money we would receive for him could go a long way if we invested wisely.

I was more upset when we initially lost him to Juventus the first time around then I will be when he leaves this summer.