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31 May 2018 07:02:14
Before we start this is only something iv read. Its a nice old school rumour with a story. I'm paraphrasing a bit but apparently our new sleeve sponsor is "Kohler" (an American manufacturing comapny) .

So the story goes that the guy who brokered the deal let it slip to someone that we have activated Griezmann''s release clause. Him accepting our offer is a different matter. Either way he won't be announcing where he's going until after the world cup.

If the the sleeve sponsor announced in the next two weeks is Kohler, then maybe this has legs.

Woodward is always looking for the big "markee" signing. Maybe Antoine is it?

Mumbles

1.) 31 May 2018 07:28:53
Mumbles I read exactly the same thing last night and not going to lie it got me very excited. I am very sceptical but there could be some truth in it. I would have thought Barcelona would have had this deal wrapped by now. But I think there is something to do with his release clause being activated at a certain date. I would love griezmann he is my preferred no 1 signing this summer. At least will if we announce the Koehler sleeve sponsor then perhaps we can get excited by this.


2.) 31 May 2018 09:07:19
I wouldn't be surprised if this was part of a strategy to get Bale, There is obvious interest in Bale and the numbers being quoted since he scored in the final seem to have increased maybe this is our way of saying if the price is to much we can go elsewhere. The good thing for us is there is a lot of top talent available just now so hopefully we don't get held to ransom as much as normal. Saying that with the names being thrown around looking for a move in the summer anyone else massively regretting buying Sanchez.


3.) 31 May 2018 09:30:52
Havent seen those Griezman rumours but its always struck me as odd that JM hasn't kept him in the frame . obviously wanted him and by all accounts we were close to getting him - now he is "available" again, human nature says JM just suddenly would not be interested in him -yes we got RL "instead" Fergie always wanted Batistuta, Van Persie, Lewondowski . so I can imagine JM has always considerd Griezeman as one that got away.

Griezeman meets EDS galatico policy and JM likes him a lot. so its not completely impossible just very doubtful to me.

Martial leaving puts a new slant on it all, if that's what happens this summer as the lad seems unsettled.


4.) 31 May 2018 10:03:11
Martial keeps his counsel very close to his chest too which I do like. Has he been quoted anywhere saying he is keen to leave or indeed stay?


5.) 31 May 2018 10:45:29
First time I've heard of kohler so well done to them.


6.) 31 May 2018 23:44:33
Read the Kohler would like a partnership with Koke also.


 

 

12 Nov 2017 07:06:11
I just seen that we're linked with a move for Asensio. I would have thought he'd be one of the key men in the Madrid rebuild over the next few years.

Mumbles

1.) 12 Nov 2017 12:41:31
didnt he sign a new contract in the summer with a ridiculous buyout clause?


2.) 12 Nov 2017 13:38:11
I think if he is available he would be moving to Barcelona but itd be stupid to sell him as he is as big talent as Mbappe.


 

 

20 Aug 2017 00:13:28
Steady improvement is all you can ask for in football. We've improved the squad with some quality players. Our attacking players have hit the ground running, 4 different scorers today. Last year we were grinding out 1-0's always looking like we were capable of conceding late. I know it's early days but when we go up against the little piggies who built their house out of brick, we won't huff and puff, we just kick the front door in!

We have options from the bench. We have different combinations in midfield depending on the opposition. Maybe lacking a back up striker and a full back but we have players who could fill in for shirt periods of time.

The old cliché rings true. Take each game as they come. We have pace, power, guile, height attacking set pieces. A mixed bag to cause any team problems. A couple more of those results and the fear factor will well and truly be back!

Mumbles

1.) 20 Aug 2017 09:52:45
Omg I just said a similar thing to this Mumbles. That we need a fullback predominantly right I think. That we need a right forward. Don't forget Martial and Rushford can play central of we get an injury to Lukaku. But I agree two more would be great. Although it'll be hard I think.


2.) 20 Aug 2017 11:55:48
Totally agree, the signs are good. Two different games and the same result, if we can do this against good opposition as well then we will romp the league. Punishing teams is a great thing because it will scare teams when they go a goal down, recent seasons opponents always thought they could win from a goal down or at least draw - now they may fear a pasting if they open up - nice to give opposition something to think about for once as it has been too easy for managers to know how to set-up against us and exactly how we will play.


3.) 20 Aug 2017 13:20:03
I think its the left back sydney, not right. Blind looked like he didn't want the ball yesterday and usually passes backwards.


4.) 20 Aug 2017 13:41:02
Nonsense. Blind was always an option and played well.


5.) 20 Aug 2017 13:50:17
Granted his delivery yesterday was not perfect, but defensively he was excellent again and always offers an outlet.


6.) 20 Aug 2017 14:05:09
I like Blind a lot he always tries has an excellent football brain and can pass well but and it is a big but. he is not fast and most right wingers or attacking fullbacks beat him. He will be targeted and against the better teams he will cost us goals if played against left back.


7.) 20 Aug 2017 17:03:51
Eric - Not sure how you can say it's 'nonsense' when most fans agree with the point. Blind is a passenger, he offered zero going forward. Every time he got the ball he passed it backwards or inside, never gave an option for the wide player, no overlaps and he was frequently letting the ball bounce in the box or was lucky to escape being flat footed when balls came in. We won despite Blind, not because of Blind.

It's very similar when Rojo plays out there. I find myself simply hoping for an average performance, because the alternative is disaster. Most other teams have full backs that are great assets and support the attackers, Blind can't offer that because he is very slow and by committing forward (where he offers little) he is exposing himself to a counter attack because he couldn't catch treacle.

Sad but true, he is not good enough as a full back and against good teams we would get punished.


8.) 20 Aug 2017 18:38:55
didn't rashford start off as a right winger? maybe try him there with martial on the left, but martial reminds me of olly comes off bench and does brill.


9.) 20 Aug 2017 20:17:11
Ole didn't cost us in excess of 50 million.


10.) 20 Aug 2017 21:16:45
Beast mate, I think we'll be alright against the top teams. Jose likes the play a tight game somewhat defensive against better opposition. I think Herrera will come in for those big games. A midfield of him closing down and winning the ball back, Pogba further up marauding with a free pass and Matic being the insurance, I think that's the best midfield 3 in the league.

But my favourite part of the make up of the team is very much akin to the 90's united. We have the players to play with the ball on the deck if you want a game of football. We have physically imposing players if you want a battle. We have height to defend a last minute barrage into the box and we have the players with the guile to open up stubborn defences. And something tells me we aren't done in the transfer market either.


11.) 20 Aug 2017 21:21:17
yeah mark let's start trying to fit people in again. No!, let's get specialists in positions we need.


12.) 20 Aug 2017 22:53:09
Blind is a utility player - a defensive one. To criticise him for not bombing forward and neglecting his primary duties of defending is simply ridiculous. In case nobody saw, we kept another clean sheet with him at left back. He tackled well, was solid, and never gave any of their players a sniff?

Two games in, we have scored 8 and conceded 0 yet there are those on here never happy - Beast mate you being a Primary culprit. Enjoy the moment - may not happen again all season! Thankfully Jose doesn't take any of our master tactical analaysis or transfer knowledge on board and picks a team for each match he thinks will win us marches. His career record speaks for itself so I'll leave it to him and enjoy watching us play fun football for the first time in years again.


13.) 20 Aug 2017 23:15:40
Totally agree about Blind. He doesn't offer anything going forward always cuts back and is afraid to overlap because he knows he can't get back quick enough if it breaks down. His crossing is very poor and they are always from deep, hopefully shaw can come back and find some form, wouldn't like to see blind starting against any if our rivals.


14.) 21 Aug 2017 12:16:18
Blind is not pacy enough to be a specialist left back, but when Shaw returns he'll take that slot, and help Rashford in the process. However, he is still a great utility player to call upon, whether in that position, centre half or defensive midfielder.

Gary Neville wasn't the fastest, but he could read the game and was rarely caught out of position. Blind is a very intelligent player, and from what I've seen of him, he rarely gets into a position where he has to run one on one with a winger.


15.) 21 Aug 2017 17:39:03
Blind rarely let's us down. What he lacks in pace he makes up in positioning and reading of the game. Also tidy on the ball.
A very good back up and utility player for me.
Doesn't deserve th stick.


 

 

09 Jul 2017 17:11:39
Evening Ed. We're all pretty up to date with the potential incoming signings. In regards to the potential outgoing players it all seems a bit quiet. We know there's interest from Italy from Darmain and Rooney has left. With Lindelof arriving, I'd imagine one of Jones, Smalling and Rojo being surplus to requirements. Do you know if the club is willing to look at offers for these players?

You've said we're interested in a right back and a left back. Seemingly if we did get Semedo, him and Valencia would share the position until it would eventually go to Semedo full time. But the left back position was chopped and changed so much last year. Is Shaw in danger of being sold? Has he any suitors? I'd imagine his high wages and fee being an issue for a prospective buyer.

Sorry to overload on one post but is there any interest in Blind? I could see him potentially going.

And last but not least. Martial is the big one. Is there interest in him and is Jose willing to part with him.

Very much appreciated mate!

Mumbles

{Ed002's Note - I have dealt with all of this before and it hasn't changed much:
Matteo Darmian
Marcus Rojo
Phil Jones (may not survive the planned Summer cull)
Ashley Young (Summer)
Michael Carrick (will not get a new contract unless no replacement is available in the Summer - else a one year extension)
Wayne Rooney (if Griezmann/Perisic signs)
De Gea (possibly out Summer but a dependency on Real Madrid renewing interest)
Sergio Romero (possibly - might depend on what happens with De Gea)
Zlatan Ibrahimovic
Luke Shaw
Ander Herrera (will stay after patching up the issue)
Juan Mata (possibly - maybe probably later in the window)


1.) 09 Jul 2017 18:19:36
Thanks loads for updated info Ed!


2.) 09 Jul 2017 18:23:52
I for one would be really peed off if mata was sold.

He is a class player and when he plays he is one of only a few who get the team ticking.

Ed can I ask what was the issue with Herrera?

{Ed002's Note - It is unimportant.}


3.) 09 Jul 2017 19:29:46
Ed002, with you having Rooney going with Griezmann or Perisic coming in, does that mean Perisic is a done or close to being done deal with them already letting Rooney go?
I think he'd be a brilliant signing!

{Ed002's Note - No, don't read stuff in to everything.}


4.) 09 Jul 2017 19:33:36
Herrera told the media that the City game was our biggest game of the season, Jose was playing it as just another three points.

Like every manager when dealing with the media you don't go off script and contradict them. They have since kissed and made up, but I suspect Pogba might be made captain rather than Herrera because of this issue.


5.) 09 Jul 2017 20:33:16
Herrera and Barcelona talk whilst on international duty was the reason jose was p'd off I believe.
Inter haven't been offered enough cash is the Perisic situation.


6.) 09 Jul 2017 20:15:02
lads, save the date and time of the above post and anyone who asks the same question, this week, next week or the weeks after, let them know where to find it. As much as all the banter is good, i generally scan through to find the eds reply. i'd imagine others are the same, the search function is great if you have time, but some of us don't, so perhaps a gentle hint in the exact direction by regular visitors would alleviate the constant requests the eds have to put up with. i'd be gutted if Mata left too.


7.) 09 Jul 2017 21:36:33
The search function is great, but an answer to the same question 2 weeks ago isn't likely to be the same now with how fast situations are moving and changing daily.

If Perisic doesn't happen because we won't match their valuation, does anyone know of the alternatives we might go for?


8.) 09 Jul 2017 21:55:27
Emil forsberg, but a deal is highly unlikely!


9.) 09 Jul 2017 22:36:37
That would be amazing, he was a machine last season. If inter won't accept 45m for Perisic might be better offering that for Fosberg. Think a few 30m bids went in for him a bit ago.


10.) 10 Jul 2017 09:42:04
I believe with purchase of Lindelof, Blind would be moved back to midfiled as direct replacement to Carrick. So it's difficult to see if smalling is sold.


11.) 10 Jul 2017 13:48:11
Blind a direct replacement for Carrick? Daley Blind? Wow.

Wouldn't bother me if any of them left, Mata is a nice bloke but doesn't cut it on the pitch, too weak and too slow for a Jose team, I really like him and don't mind if he stays but doubt he will be first choice and shouldn't be.


 

 

02 Feb 2016 21:45:14
Giggsy off to Celtic?

Mumbles

1.) 02 Feb 2016 21:57:40
I read he was home ill.


2.) 02 Feb 2016 22:19:04
It's rubbish.


 

 

 

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31 Jan 2019 18:54:12
I think it's time to do away with the transfer window. I see the hypothetical benefits of it. It stops the bigger teams having an open buffet on the smaller ones buy that hasn't changed really. It's just condensed it into 12 weeks in the summer and 4 in the winter. The January sales don't apply to football, in fact everything gets a lot more expensive in this window.

Giving the players the freedom to move clubs during the season is a good thing. Situations change during the season. If the club is willing to sell then I don't see the problem and if they're worried that a club would risk their future by overspending to stay up or get promotion, then they're not very well run clubs in the first place.

Scrap the window!

Mumbles

1.) 01 Feb 2019 04:25:29
Herehere, it’s a waste of time and energy.


2.) 01 Feb 2019 05:51:50
But mumbles, we would then be linked with schjederer and ronaldo and co 12 months of the year.


3.) 01 Feb 2019 09:55:17
Mumbles; I hope Evra and Vidic don't know where you live. :P.


4.) 01 Feb 2019 11:25:31
We would have signed them in November mbd, they would have been climatised earlier and we would have beaten Chelsea to the league that year!


 

 

28 Jan 2019 20:36:31
There is loads of factors why England is a poor breeding ground for young talent. The competitive nature of the league leaves the top teams unwilling to spend time blooding youth in. It doesn't seem to be a mandate for clubs as a priority to bring through youth.

And can you blame a manager for not doing it? If you were guaranteed a few season you could plan the transition of youth players into the first team squad, but why would you when you could be sacked after 15 games?

Me personally, I would always have at least one academy player on the bench for every game. For the games you're winning comfortably and if you're trailing and just need a spark.

Another problem is that the reserve league is a load of pony. Nothing stagnates a players progress more than too many season's playing in the Premier League 2 or whatever name it has at the moment. Players need a chance. Look at Rashford. Not even first choice in the reserves and a few years later because of faith and him grabbing his opportunity, he's now one of the brightest prospects in football.

Back to your point about Germany being a beacon of hope for young English players. Money has kept the youth in England. I have no doubt that City offered Sancho more money than Dortmund did but he chose the regular football over more money. You have to remember too that he wasn't an instant success. His start in Germany wad a bit hit and miss, but minutes on the pitch for a young footballer is invaluable.

Footballers aren't the brightest bunch but maybe the penny has dropped that it's better for your career to go in search of regular football instead of whichever team is willing to pay you more.

Spanish and Italian teams let their youth prospect's go to their rivals all the time. English teams tend to hoard decent players until they've reached the age and their fans no longer care about them.

Sancho moves to Dortmund. Gets in the team ahead of Pulisic. Pulisic now wants to leave. Joins Chelsea for 50 million. Hudson-Odoi now has his path blocked and will move Bayern. It's a really weird one but until it becomes more financially viable for clubs to produce youth players, sadly it isn't going to happen that regularly.

Haven't said all that, we have a few awesome prospects and a manager that has the support of the fans and hopefully soon the full backing of the board. So maybe we'll see 2 or 3 of them get more game time over the next year.

Mumbles

1.) 28 Jan 2019 21:57:40
Sorry, this was supposed to be a reply to Shappys post down the page.


 

 

01 Jan 2019 13:20:33
I expect us to go to Newcastle tomorrow and get 3 points. It won't be as straight forward as our first three games but I think we'll have too much for them. The intriguing game coming up though is Spurs at Wembley.

This is a title shot for Ole. A free swing at the man that the club want to be the permanent manager come June. If Ole can go to Wembley and beat Pochettino''s Spurs and put a good run together then I can't see anyone else in the job in the summer.

United have put themselves in a stupid position with the statements regarding the future appointment of our manager. If Pochettino is the main target, why would he commit to us without knowing what Ole could do for the rest of the season. Are we going to remove a fan favourite at the helm to bring in an outsider? Maybe OGS isn't the long term solution but if he starts climbing the table and the style of football and results continue to improve then the United board are stuck between a rock and a hard place.

2019 is going to be eventful! Happy new years to everyone and all the eds!

Mumbles

1.) 01 Jan 2019 14:09:31
Apparently there's a 5 man shortlist for the job.

Poch, Zidane, Blanc, OGS and Marco Rose.

Id discount Zidane and Blanc straight away. Zidane would probably be better suited to a director of football job. Blancs not been on a management for a bit and wasn't that impressive. Poch still has question marks over the mental side of the game. It concerns me that spurs always crumble under pressure. Just this week they go second and people talk about a title challenge and they lose the next game. That leaves OGS who's doing a good job but hasn't had a big test yet and Rose who's an unknown factor and a name the majority haven't heard of.


2.) 01 Jan 2019 15:33:20
We have rushed the last 3 appointments all have failed to deliver and not been given time.

We need to make sure the next appointment is the correct one.

If ole can get us top 4 while playing the brand of football we are seeing and get a dof in that can sort the other mess out then he should be given the job.

To many times now we have gone with a manager with a cv give it ole and make sure the dof can sort the recruitment out.

Not felt like this about watching us play for the b3st part of 5 years


There are going to be games where we lose but you won't see us change the way we play under ole.


3.) 01 Jan 2019 15:41:23
Poch doesn't have the luxury of serious quality players for rotation especially during this festive period.
whereas, he would get 2 quality players at almost every position at Utd.


4.) 01 Jan 2019 15:46:05
There’s a great feel good factor right now but OGS’s management experience is sparse, certainly at the highest level. He’s a legend but that doesn’t mean we should let sentiment guide us, nice as it may be.

I’m not impressed with the shortlist, I think Poch is the stand out candidate right now. However, despite my reservations, Ole has a chance to show what he can do so who knows? If the players respond to him and start to consistently play to their potential, scoring goals, playing great football, and climbing the table, then it would be a brave man to ditch him for someone else.


5.) 01 Jan 2019 16:03:09
I think the club have done the right thing by taking their time with the appointment. The key for ole was to get the players enjoying their football again. Get the players out there expressing themselves and entertaining the fans. I can hardly remember this much of a buzz around the club since Fergie left.

Although I love ole and think he has done great, I do doubt he has what it takes to take the job permanently. I honestly feel the brains and the puppet master is Phelan. I wasn’t particularly enthused about ole until I heard Phelan was joining. He is united through and through and has a wealth of experience that we have missed for years. Moyes May still be in the job if he retained him and meulensteen.

I am firmly behind the idea of Poch. I think we have to resist being a prisoner of the moment and wait until we come up against the other top 6 teams. Poch is one of the best managers in the league and has overachieved hugely with spurs. He has a great team but lacks that depth and funds to compete on a level playing field with the likes of city and Liverpool. He is a great man manager, has champions league experience and he promotes an entertaining and high energy brand of football. I think we would regret not hiring him.

Too often as united fans we are blinded by sentimentality. That’s what separates us from the Reals of the world who are ruthless in their appointments. Love ole but we would be silly not to go for Poch in the summer.


6.) 01 Jan 2019 16:08:42
We already have the right manager, give Ole the job i'd say, give him 2,3 year contract with an option to 5 and we will get back to the top sooner rather than later, sometimes you just know when something is right and OLE has clicked right away, he knows what it means to represent the badge, he knows the culture, history, tradition and philosophy of the club, you guys want Zidane? he comes from Madrid, another one who will think he is bigger than the club, you want Poch? he wants Madrid first, Latin american players and managers think Real Madrid and Barcelona are the greatest clubs ever and in Madrids case justified.


7.) 01 Jan 2019 16:11:50
But that's my point Bolger. There was no need to make definitive statements like "OGS is only our interim manager while we look for our next permanent manager". I'm all for doing their due diligence but they've given themselves stupid obstacles to overcome. Plus Ole came out in the first press conference saying he'd like the job. It's a mess.

It makes the whole process ten times harder. If the board wanted a new manager, then just let Carrick have it until the end of the season with say Mick Phelan coming in to help. By giving Ole a chance they've seriously given themselves a headache they didn't need.

I'm really enjoying the football but I'm incredibly apprehensive about the way the board will handle this transition.


8.) 01 Jan 2019 16:18:10
There will be several candidates. If we can't get into the top 4 and win a cup OGS may be given the job but anything short of that and i'm sure the club will press on with appointing a new manager.

Personally i'm not even thinking about the summer i'm only looking at the next 5 months. 100% behind ole and the players.
He is getting much more from rash martial pogba in particular.
The longer we can ride this wave of optimism and feel good factor the better.
Lets see if we can make up the gap and get top 4 and worry about who takes over for next season.


9.) 01 Jan 2019 16:25:15
What else is OGS going to say when asked if he’d like the job. Of course he would! We all would!


10.) 01 Jan 2019 16:30:28
I might be wrong but I seem to recall that to be interim manager for any length of time they have to have the badges and Carrick doesn’t. The fact they brought Ole in says they are giving themselves time. I said this before but appointing OGS on a permanent basis would be a massive risk and I don’t think the club can afford another mistake.


11.) 01 Jan 2019 16:32:45
I keep saying that the next appointment by Utd must be the DoF or Technical Director as the role now seems to be mentioned. No point getting a new Head Coach until we have the right structure above.

The TD can play a major role in appointing the Head Coach. Perhaps if it is done this way OGS might be a serious candidate if results and performances go well.

Just glad we have an air of positivity around the club now.


12.) 01 Jan 2019 18:49:31
My insecurities are that Ole is just what the players needed in the short term. He does well enough to earn himself the job permanently but isn't the nan to move the club forward.

Stick or twist?


13.) 01 Jan 2019 19:10:55
I don't know how any one could give OGS the job permanently after 3 performances against some lowly sides.

In all honesty, it was an iffy appointment. Feels like just another PR stunt where Woodward is trying to distract from the underlying issues at the club.

I'm really enjoying the performances so far under OGS, however I'm not allowing myself to be convinced that this is the absolute way forward. OGS has a way to go before he can be considered for the full time position, if he is even being considered right now which I highly doubt.

Firstly, they need to appoint the right DOF and then make sure that they get the right manager that can work within that structure. I'd imagine the No.1 choice will be Poch but who knows how that will turn out In the next couple of months.

All I feel is that they have to clean up their mess and do it quick. Therefore, I imagine that OGS will not be in the running, presuming they sort out it out ASAP.

If OGS does get the job full time, it will only point to me that Ed and the board have once again failed to be decisive enough and get their intended target.

{Ed0333's Note - maybe you’re intended target doesn’t want the United job? Bloody hell youre arrogance is off the chart. You have no define right to any player or coach in world football. As for OGS he beaten sides Jose probably would have lost too. There’s no doubt he’s bought the feel good factor back and to boot he seems like a thoroughly decent chap. I really hope he gets the job full time.


14.) 01 Jan 2019 19:52:32
I genuinely don't think we have a chance at poch. I'm with ed, I don't think utd are what he's looking for. If he leaves spurs I think he will go abroad.


15.) 01 Jan 2019 23:18:24
Poch may be a good manager and many may think he is what we need. Maybe yes maybe no. For me, I’m not sure as he could be another Moyes from Everton. Both did well and maintained in a small budget.
More importantly as I have mentioned some time back even if we want Poch it doesn’t mean he wants to join us. So yes I agree with Ed0333 in some ways.


16.) 02 Jan 2019 07:38:32
Keep your knickers on e033333. Did you write that with a few jars in you or what? Bloody hell 😂

Of course United don't have the 'define' right to any coach in world football. I was just giving my opinion and I believe that Ed and his old chums at the top have no actual real logic behind this appointment, Feels like a PR stunt.

We may or may not get our first, it may or not be poch (Just a guess) . But going by the last couple of appointments, they surely have to get the next one right.

And forgive me for not getting carried away by the last 3 results. I'd rather see where we are in a few months before appointment OGS.

Hope that's okay with you and not too arrogant 👍.

{Ed0333's Note - mate I’m a raging alcoholic and always edit when half cut so my logic is always skewed. But correct me if I’m wrong has OGS not one every game he’s been in charge of at United? Has he not got the players playing for him? Has he nor rejuvenated Pogba? Is he not universally liked within the club? Has he not propelled you up the table and within reach of top 4? Has he not got lovely dimples when he smiles? You talk about getting the next managerial appointment right whose to say Poch or Zidane will be right or whoever it is Ed the pleb is considering. Maybe you have the right guy at helm already? As I say excuse my logic I’ve had a few drinks.


 

 

20 Dec 2018 00:25:59
Ed002, if you have a minute mate. Manager compensation is always a fraction of what players cost. It always has been. Why all of sudden am I reading everywhere that Pochettino (if he were to come) will cost us £50/ 60 million quid?

Is it that we would have to negotiate with Spurs or would we have to buy out his contract? How does it work?

Cheers.

Mumbles

{Ed002's Note - I don't want to get in to the money but if Manchester United want to buy someone out of their contract, some clubs will demand full compensation. Why would Spurs be open to any sort of negotiation if Manchester United want to take their manager?}


1.) 20 Dec 2018 12:32:24
Another question is: Would Poch want to join us?
Maybe or maybe not given that he could stay where he is and see what he is building comes into fruition.


2.) 20 Dec 2018 13:30:12
I have no idea if Poch would want to come, but we should at least have a go at getting him as he is probably the standout candidate.

EPL proven.
Good at developing youngsters.
Plays entertaining football.
Friendly positive outlook which is good for PR.

Would he want to join? Or maybe more importantly would he want to leave Spurs?

There certainly is an argument that he is in a good place with Spurs, the total trust of the board, the backing of the fans, autonomy to make the team his own and a. great group of players.

However, there is also a train of thought that he might have hit the ceiling with Spurs. Can they go the next step? Can they replace players that are aging/ wanting to leave. Tripper has done well but he isn't as good as Walker. Rose wants to leave to move back up north, is Davies as good? Alderweireld might leave and Vertonghen has had injury issues over the last couple of years. Dembele will soon leave, Eriksen is wanted by several top European teams. With the move to the new stadium will Spurs have the money to attract and purchase the required quality of players to replace them?
If not then will Poch be able to elevate those players to achieve more than his current players?

If he feels he has taken Spurs as far as he can, and that there is a chance the team might regress if the level of investment isn't available to either keep Spurs where they are or move them forward. Then maybe a move while his stock is high is best. Maybe a new challenge is needed or wanted. Would he like to have the chance to restore United to former glory? He is a huge fan of Sir Alex so that could also be a motivator.

I guess we'll see next summer.

{Ed002's Note - You missed - Never won anything.}


3.) 20 Dec 2018 13:56:44
Damn Ed002 you’re quick and sharp 🤣🤣👍👍👏👏.


4.) 20 Dec 2018 14:55:04
I'm not suggesting for one minute that Spurs would do us a favour and let him leave for peanuts. But this is the first time iv heard such vast amounts for a managers compensation. I know you don't want to get into money but the estimated amount is 10 times larger than any compensation iv seen before. Obviously it's all speculation and I'm not privy to the actual amounts but it seems excessive is all.


5.) 20 Dec 2018 15:20:41
Ed002, dripping sauce with the jokes lol.


6.) 20 Dec 2018 18:38:11
They have to buy out his contract mumbles, he's just signed a 5 year contract at a high rate so it would add up to a lot. Generally when managers are poached it's from smaller clubs who aren't paying their managers that much so the compensation is much less.


 

 

18 Dec 2018 10:36:08
The fans have been generally somber this season. No mass hysteria, no mass protests considering the slop we've been served up. Now that the bogeyman is gone to spend a few months on the Riveria before undoubtedly winning trophies at whatever club he goes to next, what's to happen with what remains at our club?

It was the right move to make, I'm not doubting that for one second, but if people think all the problems walked out of Carrington this morning then I think we're in for a rude awakening. We still have a bloated squad of pretenders and a boardroom full of unambitious money men.

The next appointment really does make or break us for the next decade. We've shown we're not a club for an elite manager. So who is? Who does everyone want as our next permanent manager? Do we do what's right for the club and break our backs to get Poch? Or is it no ambition, save a few quid on Eddie Howe?

Mumbles

1.) 18 Dec 2018 10:57:17
No idea mumbles.
Our last 3 managers have failed miserably.
1 moyes was considered by many as a good manager.
2 lvg an aging legend that had won it all.
3. The most successful manager of his generation.
None of these could hack it with our star studded squad and 700m so its hard to know who the best choice is.


2.) 18 Dec 2018 11:56:37
Blanc as DOF
Howe as manager
Keane or stam or both as assistant

Would be my choice has a blend of everything for me.


 

 

 

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05 Feb 2019 10:24:47
We rotated a small bit against Burnley and struggled to play the way we have been. We're covering a lot more ground than those players are used to and it's already showing at the end of games, there is a considerable drop off in terms of intensity.

But this is how Ole earns his corn. As you said, it's really only the midfield that seems slightly shirt but we still should have enough to rotate and beat Fulham on Saturday.

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24 Jan 2019 06:06:39
The problem with that Shappy is blooding youth and winning trophies in basically impossible at this current time. We have a few very talented kids coming through, but what manager would risk their job here trying to make sure the kids get their chance?

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22 Jan 2019 23:26:36
Pliny, he doesn't want to be here. His agent is hawking him around to anyone who will listen. He's acted like a petulant child and let's not get into his ridiculous instagram posts after we sacked Jose.

Yeah, on his day he's class but he's more likely to have average above average performance than a great one.

There's a reason why Madrid and Barcelona don't fancy him. He'd rather push for a move back to Juventus than play his football at Old Trafford. Let's reward the lad with a wage increase because he's had 3 good games since the new manager took over.

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22 Jan 2019 12:52:23
Pogba is actively looking for a new club. I wouldn't be rewarding him with a new contract considering his behaviour over the last year.

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05 Jan 2019 03:12:14
I don't see why he'd want to. He wasn't treated too good by the fans or the players here and was used as a scapegoat for our poor performances at times. He's gone on to become a very good player, but I can't see him coming back.

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11 Feb 2019 14:32:27
I'd say PSG were rubbing their hands with the draw in December. Jose had us set up to defend deep and a team with the attacking quality of PSG would ultimately break us down over 180 minutes. Now we are set up to counter at pace, to attack relentlessly in patches. This game could end up 4-4. But with their form on a dip and missing a few key players, I think we'll run out winners.

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06 Feb 2019 18:48:24
His ability to change with the times was his biggest asset. He wasn't afraid of change, he welcomed it. Kicking out the boozers from the squad in his early days, some quality players but it was for the greater good.

Domestically he got the better of every one of his adversaries over time. It was almost like he needed them to make himself and the team better. The first title win was obviously huge but the team that lost to Blackburn was replaced with a sprinkle of youth. The team that had to overcome Wengers incredible Arsenal was a treble winning team. When it got too easy domestically in 00/ 01/ 02 the team suffered for a few years. It wasnt until Jose rolled into town to lay down a dynasty and put United on the back burner that birthed the great 07/ 08 team. Even with the blank cheque of Man City the great man managed to overcome them one last time to sign off in the most perfect way.

The players encompassed his attitude. All his teams adapted and never gave in. Each team different from the last but had his fingerprints throughout them.

From 93 onwards I'd imagine 99% of his first team signings left with a league winners medal. Amazing.

The greatest.

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05 Feb 2019 15:42:54
GDS, I haven't poked my head into our chat in a couple of seasons. It's not as entertaining when it's your own teams "fans" having a meltdown.

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05 Feb 2019 10:33:30
I had a glance on their live chat last night after the game and it was a sight to behold. You'd swear they threw the league away. I do think the whole club is surrounded by negative pressure though and I don't think this year will be their year but a good portion of their fans are cracking up. You need to enjoy these title run ins but you can feel the manager, players and fans are not relishing under the pressure.

Klopps true nature comes out after a bad result and yesterday was no exception. Moaning about the ref giving West ham some 50/ 50 free kicks because he gave his team a goal? Nonsense. For all his hugs and smiles, tactically he's one of the worst "top" managers and I don't think he has it in him to get Liverpool over the line.

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04 Feb 2019 15:11:23
Ince is one of those old school players that thinks the modern game owes them something. If ýou watch him on MoTD he is constantly making mistakes in his punditry. When commenting on the United v Leicester game when Leicester starting brightly and had a few chances in the second half, he commented that they started the game wonderfully until Gabby Logan pointed out it was the second half. The devil is in the details and he doesn't pay attention.

He hasn't got an eye for detail. If he was smart he would have started off coaching somewhere instead of moaning about not getting a job.

He gave his son some awful advice too and he doesn't seem like he's a student of the game. If he thinks what Ole has done was easy then he's even more deluded than I thought.

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