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31 May 2018 07:02:14
Before we start this is only something iv read. Its a nice old school rumour with a story. I'm paraphrasing a bit but apparently our new sleeve sponsor is "Kohler" (an American manufacturing comapny) .

So the story goes that the guy who brokered the deal let it slip to someone that we have activated Griezmann''s release clause. Him accepting our offer is a different matter. Either way he won't be announcing where he's going until after the world cup.

If the the sleeve sponsor announced in the next two weeks is Kohler, then maybe this has legs.

Woodward is always looking for the big "markee" signing. Maybe Antoine is it?

Mumbles

1.) 31 May 2018 07:28:53
Mumbles I read exactly the same thing last night and not going to lie it got me very excited. I am very sceptical but there could be some truth in it. I would have thought Barcelona would have had this deal wrapped by now. But I think there is something to do with his release clause being activated at a certain date. I would love griezmann he is my preferred no 1 signing this summer. At least will if we announce the Koehler sleeve sponsor then perhaps we can get excited by this.


2.) 31 May 2018 09:07:19
I wouldn't be surprised if this was part of a strategy to get Bale, There is obvious interest in Bale and the numbers being quoted since he scored in the final seem to have increased maybe this is our way of saying if the price is to much we can go elsewhere. The good thing for us is there is a lot of top talent available just now so hopefully we don't get held to ransom as much as normal. Saying that with the names being thrown around looking for a move in the summer anyone else massively regretting buying Sanchez.


3.) 31 May 2018 09:30:52
Havent seen those Griezman rumours but its always struck me as odd that JM hasn't kept him in the frame . obviously wanted him and by all accounts we were close to getting him - now he is "available" again, human nature says JM just suddenly would not be interested in him -yes we got RL "instead" Fergie always wanted Batistuta, Van Persie, Lewondowski . so I can imagine JM has always considerd Griezeman as one that got away.

Griezeman meets EDS galatico policy and JM likes him a lot. so its not completely impossible just very doubtful to me.

Martial leaving puts a new slant on it all, if that's what happens this summer as the lad seems unsettled.


4.) 31 May 2018 10:03:11
Martial keeps his counsel very close to his chest too which I do like. Has he been quoted anywhere saying he is keen to leave or indeed stay?


5.) 31 May 2018 10:45:29
First time I've heard of kohler so well done to them.


6.) 31 May 2018 23:44:33
Read the Kohler would like a partnership with Koke also.


 

 

12 Nov 2017 07:06:11
I just seen that we're linked with a move for Asensio. I would have thought he'd be one of the key men in the Madrid rebuild over the next few years.

Mumbles

1.) 12 Nov 2017 12:41:31
didnt he sign a new contract in the summer with a ridiculous buyout clause?


2.) 12 Nov 2017 13:38:11
I think if he is available he would be moving to Barcelona but itd be stupid to sell him as he is as big talent as Mbappe.


 

 

20 Aug 2017 00:13:28
Steady improvement is all you can ask for in football. We've improved the squad with some quality players. Our attacking players have hit the ground running, 4 different scorers today. Last year we were grinding out 1-0's always looking like we were capable of conceding late. I know it's early days but when we go up against the little piggies who built their house out of brick, we won't huff and puff, we just kick the front door in!

We have options from the bench. We have different combinations in midfield depending on the opposition. Maybe lacking a back up striker and a full back but we have players who could fill in for shirt periods of time.

The old cliché rings true. Take each game as they come. We have pace, power, guile, height attacking set pieces. A mixed bag to cause any team problems. A couple more of those results and the fear factor will well and truly be back!

Mumbles

1.) 20 Aug 2017 09:52:45
Omg I just said a similar thing to this Mumbles. That we need a fullback predominantly right I think. That we need a right forward. Don't forget Martial and Rushford can play central of we get an injury to Lukaku. But I agree two more would be great. Although it'll be hard I think.


2.) 20 Aug 2017 11:55:48
Totally agree, the signs are good. Two different games and the same result, if we can do this against good opposition as well then we will romp the league. Punishing teams is a great thing because it will scare teams when they go a goal down, recent seasons opponents always thought they could win from a goal down or at least draw - now they may fear a pasting if they open up - nice to give opposition something to think about for once as it has been too easy for managers to know how to set-up against us and exactly how we will play.


3.) 20 Aug 2017 13:20:03
I think its the left back sydney, not right. Blind looked like he didn't want the ball yesterday and usually passes backwards.


4.) 20 Aug 2017 13:41:02
Nonsense. Blind was always an option and played well.


5.) 20 Aug 2017 13:50:17
Granted his delivery yesterday was not perfect, but defensively he was excellent again and always offers an outlet.


6.) 20 Aug 2017 14:05:09
I like Blind a lot he always tries has an excellent football brain and can pass well but and it is a big but. he is not fast and most right wingers or attacking fullbacks beat him. He will be targeted and against the better teams he will cost us goals if played against left back.


7.) 20 Aug 2017 17:03:51
Eric - Not sure how you can say it's 'nonsense' when most fans agree with the point. Blind is a passenger, he offered zero going forward. Every time he got the ball he passed it backwards or inside, never gave an option for the wide player, no overlaps and he was frequently letting the ball bounce in the box or was lucky to escape being flat footed when balls came in. We won despite Blind, not because of Blind.

It's very similar when Rojo plays out there. I find myself simply hoping for an average performance, because the alternative is disaster. Most other teams have full backs that are great assets and support the attackers, Blind can't offer that because he is very slow and by committing forward (where he offers little) he is exposing himself to a counter attack because he couldn't catch treacle.

Sad but true, he is not good enough as a full back and against good teams we would get punished.


8.) 20 Aug 2017 18:38:55
didn't rashford start off as a right winger? maybe try him there with martial on the left, but martial reminds me of olly comes off bench and does brill.


9.) 20 Aug 2017 20:17:11
Ole didn't cost us in excess of 50 million.


10.) 20 Aug 2017 21:16:45
Beast mate, I think we'll be alright against the top teams. Jose likes the play a tight game somewhat defensive against better opposition. I think Herrera will come in for those big games. A midfield of him closing down and winning the ball back, Pogba further up marauding with a free pass and Matic being the insurance, I think that's the best midfield 3 in the league.

But my favourite part of the make up of the team is very much akin to the 90's united. We have the players to play with the ball on the deck if you want a game of football. We have physically imposing players if you want a battle. We have height to defend a last minute barrage into the box and we have the players with the guile to open up stubborn defences. And something tells me we aren't done in the transfer market either.


11.) 20 Aug 2017 21:21:17
yeah mark let's start trying to fit people in again. No!, let's get specialists in positions we need.


12.) 20 Aug 2017 22:53:09
Blind is a utility player - a defensive one. To criticise him for not bombing forward and neglecting his primary duties of defending is simply ridiculous. In case nobody saw, we kept another clean sheet with him at left back. He tackled well, was solid, and never gave any of their players a sniff?

Two games in, we have scored 8 and conceded 0 yet there are those on here never happy - Beast mate you being a Primary culprit. Enjoy the moment - may not happen again all season! Thankfully Jose doesn't take any of our master tactical analaysis or transfer knowledge on board and picks a team for each match he thinks will win us marches. His career record speaks for itself so I'll leave it to him and enjoy watching us play fun football for the first time in years again.


13.) 20 Aug 2017 23:15:40
Totally agree about Blind. He doesn't offer anything going forward always cuts back and is afraid to overlap because he knows he can't get back quick enough if it breaks down. His crossing is very poor and they are always from deep, hopefully shaw can come back and find some form, wouldn't like to see blind starting against any if our rivals.


14.) 21 Aug 2017 12:16:18
Blind is not pacy enough to be a specialist left back, but when Shaw returns he'll take that slot, and help Rashford in the process. However, he is still a great utility player to call upon, whether in that position, centre half or defensive midfielder.

Gary Neville wasn't the fastest, but he could read the game and was rarely caught out of position. Blind is a very intelligent player, and from what I've seen of him, he rarely gets into a position where he has to run one on one with a winger.


15.) 21 Aug 2017 17:39:03
Blind rarely let's us down. What he lacks in pace he makes up in positioning and reading of the game. Also tidy on the ball.
A very good back up and utility player for me.
Doesn't deserve th stick.


 

 

09 Jul 2017 17:11:39
Evening Ed. We're all pretty up to date with the potential incoming signings. In regards to the potential outgoing players it all seems a bit quiet. We know there's interest from Italy from Darmain and Rooney has left. With Lindelof arriving, I'd imagine one of Jones, Smalling and Rojo being surplus to requirements. Do you know if the club is willing to look at offers for these players?

You've said we're interested in a right back and a left back. Seemingly if we did get Semedo, him and Valencia would share the position until it would eventually go to Semedo full time. But the left back position was chopped and changed so much last year. Is Shaw in danger of being sold? Has he any suitors? I'd imagine his high wages and fee being an issue for a prospective buyer.

Sorry to overload on one post but is there any interest in Blind? I could see him potentially going.

And last but not least. Martial is the big one. Is there interest in him and is Jose willing to part with him.

Very much appreciated mate!

Mumbles

{Ed002's Note - I have dealt with all of this before and it hasn't changed much:
Matteo Darmian
Marcus Rojo
Phil Jones (may not survive the planned Summer cull)
Ashley Young (Summer)
Michael Carrick (will not get a new contract unless no replacement is available in the Summer - else a one year extension)
Wayne Rooney (if Griezmann/Perisic signs)
De Gea (possibly out Summer but a dependency on Real Madrid renewing interest)
Sergio Romero (possibly - might depend on what happens with De Gea)
Zlatan Ibrahimovic
Luke Shaw
Ander Herrera (will stay after patching up the issue)
Juan Mata (possibly - maybe probably later in the window)


1.) 09 Jul 2017 18:19:36
Thanks loads for updated info Ed!


2.) 09 Jul 2017 18:23:52
I for one would be really peed off if mata was sold.

He is a class player and when he plays he is one of only a few who get the team ticking.

Ed can I ask what was the issue with Herrera?

{Ed002's Note - It is unimportant.}


3.) 09 Jul 2017 19:29:46
Ed002, with you having Rooney going with Griezmann or Perisic coming in, does that mean Perisic is a done or close to being done deal with them already letting Rooney go?
I think he'd be a brilliant signing!

{Ed002's Note - No, don't read stuff in to everything.}


4.) 09 Jul 2017 19:33:36
Herrera told the media that the City game was our biggest game of the season, Jose was playing it as just another three points.

Like every manager when dealing with the media you don't go off script and contradict them. They have since kissed and made up, but I suspect Pogba might be made captain rather than Herrera because of this issue.


5.) 09 Jul 2017 20:33:16
Herrera and Barcelona talk whilst on international duty was the reason jose was p'd off I believe.
Inter haven't been offered enough cash is the Perisic situation.


6.) 09 Jul 2017 20:15:02
lads, save the date and time of the above post and anyone who asks the same question, this week, next week or the weeks after, let them know where to find it. As much as all the banter is good, i generally scan through to find the eds reply. i'd imagine others are the same, the search function is great if you have time, but some of us don't, so perhaps a gentle hint in the exact direction by regular visitors would alleviate the constant requests the eds have to put up with. i'd be gutted if Mata left too.


7.) 09 Jul 2017 21:36:33
The search function is great, but an answer to the same question 2 weeks ago isn't likely to be the same now with how fast situations are moving and changing daily.

If Perisic doesn't happen because we won't match their valuation, does anyone know of the alternatives we might go for?


8.) 09 Jul 2017 21:55:27
Emil forsberg, but a deal is highly unlikely!


9.) 09 Jul 2017 22:36:37
That would be amazing, he was a machine last season. If inter won't accept 45m for Perisic might be better offering that for Fosberg. Think a few 30m bids went in for him a bit ago.


10.) 10 Jul 2017 09:42:04
I believe with purchase of Lindelof, Blind would be moved back to midfiled as direct replacement to Carrick. So it's difficult to see if smalling is sold.


11.) 10 Jul 2017 13:48:11
Blind a direct replacement for Carrick? Daley Blind? Wow.

Wouldn't bother me if any of them left, Mata is a nice bloke but doesn't cut it on the pitch, too weak and too slow for a Jose team, I really like him and don't mind if he stays but doubt he will be first choice and shouldn't be.


 

 

02 Feb 2016 21:45:14
Giggsy off to Celtic?

Mumbles

1.) 02 Feb 2016 21:57:40
I read he was home ill.


2.) 02 Feb 2016 22:19:04
It's rubbish.


 

 

 

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30 Jul 2018 16:03:49
I peruse a few United forums and this one is my favourite. This community has its personalities, its normally a great place to spend some free time during the day, but the last few weeks have been unbearable, the negativity is astounding.

Jose is judged differently than any other manager. He simply cannot win. Buys Mkhitaryan, swaps him 18 months later for Sanchez. The uproar of how he's wasting our money, how he throws players under the bus. St Pep buys Bravo, one year later replaces him with Ederson. Wow, Pep is a genius. What an astute signing.

A poster further down the page noted that pep has signed 20 players, Jose has signed 8 or 9. A few of you used that and a stick to beat Jose with.

He always plays boring football. Comebacks against Chelsea and City. The ease at which we beat Liverpool at Old Trafford, the dismantling of Arsenal at the Emirates. The four games at the start of the season. Comebacks against Palace and Watford. They're just the stand out games. But it's all boring isn't it?

In the 19 league games we scored first, we went on to win all 19. That's not a "park the bus" manager, that's a world class manager earning his corn.

Finished the league ahead of the best attacking team in the world Liverpool. We finished ahead of the best manager in the world Poch. We finished behind the record breaking City who recorded 100 points, a tally that no premier league team has ever set. A team that in two years spent well over £300 million on defenders alone.

But he doesn't play kids! Second only to Arsenal for academy graduates getting minutes. Mctominay has done well and played in some big games. Rashford played a lot, so to Lingard.

The same doom and gloomers are the ones that yearn for Poch. A manager that has won zero trophies. A manager who can't get extremely talented Spurs side near a trophy. The same fans that lost it when we signed Matic and Chelsea signed Bakayoko.

I am a Mourinho fan but he doesn't help himself at times. The Sevilla game was atrocious. The style of football can be turgid and rigid.

His carrot and stick routine could definitely use an upgrade. I can see what he's doing when he confronts players. He wants them to rise above and prove him wrong. Sometimes he goes overboard but that's the way he's gotten his success.

Jose is a smart man. Everything he does and says is for a reason. Regardless of whether or not you think he cares about the club, what you can guarantee is he cares about winning. He's picking a fight with the board because he wants players so we can challenge for the title.


The fact is, he has improved us. In every way you can calculate improvement, he has done it. Get him what he wants and he will deliver.

It's time to take a hiatus from this wonderful site. The negative ones have Jose in their sights. There is no escape!

Take care folks!

Mumbles

{Ed004's Note - Very well written and argued post. Puts a lot into perspective. I'd like to add one more point. No other manager is scrutinised as much as Jose is both in the press and by the FA. We have seen other managers push assistants, make political statements and verbally assault referees without even a slap on the wrist. Whereas, Jose gets a ban for having his foot on the pitch (an offence other managers have committed to no punishment). Additionally, whatever is said in the media is magnified or even blatantly lied about like some of the quotes this week. Lastly, there's blatantly a different narrative with the way in which managers treat players. Stones didn't get a look in at the end of the season after Pep yet again spent 50 odd million on another defensive minded player. Yet there was no articles screaming for Stones to move on to fulfil his potential like there was for Rashford who has made more appearances under Jose than any other player (If memory serves me correctly)}


1.) 30 Jul 2018 16:16:31
Great post. Agree 100%. Wish I could like it more than once.


2.) 30 Jul 2018 16:22:34
That’s a great post Mumbles, I’m not a fan of Jose but as I have said a couple of times, people get entrenched and defend a position, everything is black and white. I had a word with myself to try and be balanced but I guess passions run high. As I said on an earlier reply, I think we’ll do just fine when everyone is back.

My main beef with Jose is his public demeanour, I’m a great believer in culture and values and he projects negativity far too often for me. I just think it will have a definite effect on the players. Lighten up man!


3.) 30 Jul 2018 16:35:39
Very well said Mumbles. and Edoo4. I confess to over reacting after the 2nd pre season game, and getting frustrated by Jose's moaning. But after a calming break and after thinking about what Ed002 says about the man, I am back on his side. I don't think it is just Jose that gets treated differently by the media, it is United in general, they love us to fail so they can write there garbage. let's as fans support everything United and not get sucked into their nonsense. I also think the doubters maybe surprised as the season gets going.

{Ed004's Note - I would slightly alter what I said and think you're correct in saying United in general. When we are winning it's spun negatively to emphasise that we are destroying football and when we lose it's highlighted even further. You wouldn't think the shocking and dissappointing Manutd side finished above the majestic and exciting Liverpool side last season. Hasn't helped that our current legend seem to attack us at nearly every opportunity. Never mind opposition legends. Has souness ever made a positive comment on Pogba? He truly despises the guy no matter what he does}


4.) 30 Jul 2018 16:53:14
Some good arguments mumbles, mourinho is many times judged unfairly and is criticized far more than other but also a lot curating of facts to suit your arguments.

No one was sad to see mkhi leave or criticized mourinho for buying sanchez, most just wanted him to played on the right and so as not to screw over martial or rashford and mess up our already poor attack, criticism started when mourinho proceeded to do what most did not want and it failed spectacularly as sanchez performed as badly as a footballer can possibly perform. Also what St. Pep did was correct his mistake, what mourinho has done atleast on available evidence is compounding it, big difference isn't it.

handful of games cherry picked over the course of a 2 seasons does not prove anything, also was this dismantling of arsenal the game where we scored 2 early goals after which arsenal proceeded to basically lay siege to our goal and ddg had to make record no of saves in a game to save our bacon, not exactly the game i would want a manager taking credit for is it? Our play over the course of the season was rubbish and mourinho's anfield game tactics were at the root of it all.

Also why is it that specific managers are compared on specific criteria? Pep won trophies and accolades because he spent more money than mourinho, but klopp and pochetino didn't spend anywhere near as mou, atleast until this season, so why criticize them for it. You can't have your cake and eat it too my friend.


5.) 30 Jul 2018 16:50:28
AJH, you can tell that Jose doesn't like the media. He's hostile towards them and looks bereft of life when talking to them. You either die a hero or you live long enough to become the villain. Jose was the breath of fresh air when he arrived in England. Now he's the anti-Christ. The darlings are Klopp and Pep. They can do no wrong.

Iv seen footage of Uniteds training over the last couple of weeks and when Jose is around the team, he seems in good spirits. Before one of the training sessions he walked around joking with most of the team but that doesn't fit the narrative.

A few players and him played football with a load of kids today. Iv only see need pictures but you can tell he's having fun. He quotes about how it's great having so many young players on tour, great for them and great for him and coaches to get to know them a bit better. No website or publication lead with those quotes.

I think the guy you see in interviews and press conference's is completely different to the guy who the players deal with day to day.

A lot of the print media are vermin. And should be treated likewise.


6.) 30 Jul 2018 17:12:07
Fantastic read mumbles. Sums up my thoughts exactly at this present moment.


7.) 30 Jul 2018 17:29:10
Mumbles,

I genuinely hope every person who has posted in the last week reads your post and takes something from it, I would love to give you a pat on the back as I think it is one of the best posts I have ever seen on here, well argued, sensible points, no sarcasm, enjoyed it.


8.) 30 Jul 2018 17:34:01
Brilliant post mumbles.


9.) 30 Jul 2018 17:35:54
Mumbles why take a break from posting mate. You post a lot of sense imo. Just because others want to vent their frustrations or havee differing onions to ours doesn't make them right.
Its funny old the people moaning a iut jose's moaning are actually more repediti e and more negatibe than jose himself imo.
Ajh says people are entrenched in their views. I am as are others. Then some people don't know what they want and just make noise for the sake of it. laugh them off pal.


10.) 30 Jul 2018 17:39:21
Ed004

You can add Jamie Redknapp and John Aldridge into that pot also. Redknapp wrote 3 articles on the sly website between January and the end of the season on why Rashford should leave United.
As for Aldridge, he is just a bitter muppet. He has a page in the Sunday World here in Ireland. Can’t go a week without a dig thrown in somewhere.
Just two of many.

{Ed004's Note - Exactly, it's an easy target to slag United players and the club. It sells papers as it gets a reaction. Non-united fans love to leave it and United fans get wound up and bite}


11.) 30 Jul 2018 18:08:44
Ken, I appreciate their posts. As I said, the reason this site is so good is that everyone has an opinion and is actually pleasant about it. I'm actually really looking forward to the start of the season and the doom and gloomers areally harshening my buzz . Some people could have Margot Robbie sitting on their lap and they'd be moaning about the rain outside!


12.) 30 Jul 2018 18:20:22
Some would have Margot Robbie on there lap and all they would talk about are out full backs.


13.) 30 Jul 2018 18:21:37
Mumbles

Well done, sometimes feels there are too few of us supporting the manager so I would say stay and give your views. If the owners support him with the right level of player he will deliver.


14.) 30 Jul 2018 19:05:02
But there will also be the laps Margot wouldn't sit on at all jred in case you bored her to sleep😂
She might avoid noucamp in case she ended up in hand cuffs
Ajh is still getting over blind and Margot wouldn't like that.
Leahy is from cork so Margot knows better than to sit on his lap in case he picks her pocket😂
Beast would be avoided due the the violent past of mrs beast.
666 couldn't have her as he has ed001 on his lap.
Redman's hips couldn't take the strain at his age😂
Slim pickings for Margot on this page.


15.) 30 Jul 2018 19:06:13
Mumbles you the man. What a great post make sure you keep posting don't you dare leave us. Its posts like yours that makes me keep coming back for more time and time again. Im a massive Jose fan and I know everything he does has reason in the same way SAF and Cloughie used to get under the Journos skin. I still believe he will get maybe 3 new signings before the start of the season and blow all the doubters away.
KEEP POSTING 😆😆.


16.) 30 Jul 2018 19:20:02
Interesting post mumbles. But i agree with Common Sense re some of the comments. I also agree with Ajh re Mourinho's terrible demeanour and constant whinning. It is pathetic.
A question for you, apart from Lingard (Mctominay came in and played a few games), but which first team player has actually improved under Mourinho?


17.) 30 Jul 2018 19:24:59
Post of the year mumbles.


18.) 30 Jul 2018 20:01:14
Brilliant post mumbles, utterly brilliant!

posts like that should be saved in a 'utd archive' so we can look back at them. in yrs to come.


19.) 30 Jul 2018 20:01:31
AAA, it's one of Jose's greatest qualities. Improving the number of goals conceded, improving the goals, improving the points total in the league without improving any players. He's a genius!


20.) 30 Jul 2018 20:18:02
Mumbles,

😂😂😂 that made me laugh, funny.

Definitely keep posting, we need people fighting against the negativity on here, the season hasn’t even bloody started yet and the overreactions are embarrassing.


21.) 30 Jul 2018 20:23:36
Ken
It's getting worse, really scrapping the barrel 😉.


22.) 30 Jul 2018 20:29:31
Ken

I’ll step up if needed.


23.) 30 Jul 2018 23:25:33
We can't have our cake and eat it. If we're going to bum and blow about being the biggest team in the world, then we have to expect most of the media attention, good or bad. Who gives two sh1tes about what other people say about us?


 

 

27 Jul 2018 14:59:28
Evening ed002, hope all is well. Is it true that if Spurs activate a year extension on Alderwierelds contract, that that triggers a £25 million release clause?

Mumbles

{Ed002's Note - I would not think so.}


1.) 27 Jul 2018 15:19:22
This seems to be a rumour that's rampant. Thanks for clearing it up!


2.) 27 Jul 2018 15:43:54
It would mean 25 million next summer if the article has any truth.


 

 

17 Jul 2018 16:12:10
There's still plenty of time left in the transfer window and we've identified quality targets. But what is worrying is what seems to be the club's haphazard way of recruiting.

Since Fergie retired 5 years ago we have bought and sold, Valdez, Blind, Di Maria, Schweinstieger, Schneiderlin, Depay, Mkhitaryan and Zlatan. And there are those who the club are willing to let leave like, Pogba, Martial, Shaw, Rojo, Darmain amongst others.

We're in the midst of a power struggle. You either bend the knee to Jose and give him the players that he wants, even if some of them won't have any resale value ie Perisic. Or you get a manager in that has a long term vision for the club. We seem to be stuck in the middle.

I get that some of the players that left weren't exactly title winning quality but we don't seem to have a plan in place that goes beyond this current window.

Cards on the table, I do think Jose is the man to win us a league title but at what price? He has a problem with our best defender in Bailey, has a problem with our best midfielder in Pogba. Interesting few weeks ahead, because we know what Jose is like when he doesn't get what he wants!

Mumbles

1.) 17 Jul 2018 17:08:42
Good post, made me think a bit. Interesting to reconsider players brought in and how they fit in with the manager's preferred style.

LVG's first year - he brought in Shaw, Herrera, Blind, Di Maria, Falcao, and Rojo. I don't blame him for trying Falcao, what a talent if healthy. Blind and Herrera fit his style well. Rojo did not, he's not really a ball-playing back, and Di Maria stands out as a poor fit. Great counter-attacking, direct, risk-taking player, but such a poor fit for LVG's possession style.

LVG's 2nd year - Martial, Depay, Schneiderlin, Schweinsteiger, Darmian. None have worked out. Martial for various reasons but still with great potential. Depay was too soon, Schweinsteiger was too late, Schneiderlin underachieved here, and Darmian struggled offensively in the EPL. But you could see how the center mids especially should have fit LVG's plan, esp. Schweinsteiger. But looking back, a very poor window.

Mourinho's first year - Bailly, Pogba, Zlatan, Mikhi. A different type of player, athletic and powerful, though Mikhi not as much. 6th place that year with 2 trophies. But I still think that was a good window. Zlatan did what he was brought in to do, and brought back some swagger to the club.

Last year - we brought in Lukau, Matic, Lindelof, and then Sanchez. Lukaku had a good season, whatever his faults may be. Matic was very good but may have fatigued later on. Lindelof had an up and down year but clearly could become very good if given the chance. Sanchez, to me, still makes no sense. All 4 you could say fit Mourinho's counterattcking style but Sanchez did not deliver and only slowed down Martial and Rashford.

The shift from LVG to Mourinho was a major one tactically. For me, that matters most in central midfield and up front. Mou will look for athletic players rather than technical types. Gundogan is a perfect example. We didn't want him, Pep did. The case of Mata is an interesting one as well. He doesn't seem to fit Mourinho's style, and his minutes went way down after Sanchez arrived.

I just wish Mourinho would let the team play on the front foot.


 

 

16 Jul 2018 18:23:04
Thanks a million ed002 for the sharkopod!

So the players we've identified for the positions needed are good enough for us to push on and make a serious challenge for the title. So we'll see how serious the club are about winning trophies or if they're happy to just try an exist within the top 4?

If Woodward can get Alderweireld, Alex Sandro or Philip Max and Bale over the line then we'll have done well. If we start going further down the list then I think we could struggle to keep up this season.

Mumbles

{Ed002's Note - the club like all clubs will look for ways to improve, and this has to be within certain constraints imposed.}


1.) 16 Jul 2018 21:30:57
Why do you think Philip Max would be a good choice for United as you mention in the megasharkopod if you don’t mind my asking Ed?

{Ed002's Note - Nice thighs.}


2.) 16 Jul 2018 22:38:17
Nice and chunky eh Ed? 🍗.


 

 

04 Jul 2018 23:05:40
Ed002, are we maxed out on our wages? I remember you saying FFP had a word with us about them being too high. We had until March to make them happy hence Zlatan leaving then.

Would one of our top earners have to leave to accommodate a potential incoming player who would demand similar wages?

Mumbles

{Ed002's Note - The club has to stay within the parameters. It cannot keep adding without taking away.}


1.) 05 Jul 2018 05:41:17
Makes the sanchez deal look even more ridiculous.


2.) 05 Jul 2018 06:20:24
I’m sure their highly qualified accountants can add up and worked out the Sanchez figures.


3.) 05 Jul 2018 08:06:34
Yes but was that a position we needed to strengthen in. Probably not.


4.) 05 Jul 2018 09:43:44
When Sanchez comes on the market at £35m given today’s prices it was a no brainier.


5.) 05 Jul 2018 09:55:48
Yep 3 goals in 18 games. No brainer.


6.) 05 Jul 2018 10:17:35
DSG,

Good job we signed him for more than 18 games then isn't it.


7.) 05 Jul 2018 10:29:08
Does that make him bad player? When he was looking likely to join City, people were questioning why utd is not interested, He is at utd you want him replaced by Rinaldo.


8.) 05 Jul 2018 10:35:09
Id imagine blind, rojo, Darmian, Shaw add quite a bit wages wise with little to zero contribution pitch wise. Jones, Smalling and Mata too. Would've added Fellaini but alas.


9.) 05 Jul 2018 10:51:16
If anyone else played as awfully as sanchez, i doubt they wpuld get 18 more games consecutively.

This supposedly from a manager who doesn't do favourites and only judges players on performances and mot reputation.


10.) 05 Jul 2018 11:05:00
Kenedyandy, i don't want ronaldo to replace sanchez, i want the players who were performing well, certainly better than sanchez in the left wing position before he joined to come back in.


11.) 05 Jul 2018 18:05:43
we got Sanchez in a straight swap for miki, sanchez is a miles better player.

he may be on more wages but he's not on a ridiculous amount more than mik.


 

 

 

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21 Jul 2018 18:42:22
So excuses for everyone else but we couldn't possibly get any better?

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21 Jul 2018 16:29:12
That's surprising that the club won't see a swap as an option. It clearly worked out well when we traded Mkhitaryan and Sanchez.

With the way the prices for players is increasing exponentially, I would have thought player plus cash deals would become more common.

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18 Jul 2018 19:53:35
Do you honestly think we're going to lose money selling Pogba? Even with the way the market has inflated over the last two years since we've bought him. The lad has just had a brilliant world cup which he was an integral part of why they won it and you're suggesting we sell him off cheap so we can buy SMS for the same price?

I get that it's just an excerise to show how we can recycle the team and get us back to the top, but it's a tad silly.

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18 Jul 2018 19:31:04
Our midfield is fine. Fred replaces Carrick who barely played. We have options for a midfield two or three depending on the opposition.

Beast, we don't need that much surgery done at once. We need a top centre back, recruitment at left back and our defense will be good enough to challenge.

Our main problem is goals from the attacking supporting cast. Lukaku done well last year but I'll expect better in terms of goals. The rest of the forwards don't contribute enough in terms of goals. That's why Bale or a wide player that can get amongst the goals is paramount.

Lukaku was the only player to get into double figures. Martial scored 9, Lingard 8, Rashford 7, Mata 3 and Sanchez 2.

We already don't give too much away at the back and with an improved defense we could do even better. I like our midfield, they too could chip in with a few more but if we can get that one attacker in that can get us over the line against some of the trickier opponents in the league. I think we'd be able to challenge.

A centre back, a left back and a goal scoring winger and we're done!

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05 Jul 2018 16:40:54
I don't watch Serie A but having see Juventus in the Champions league a bit, Dybala has never warrented the hype he gets. I don't see it.

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14 Aug 2018 20:07:35
Mancman, I said they've a one dimensional manager.

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14 Aug 2018 19:50:21
AAA, of course we have a chance of winning the league. You say we have no chance of beating the top 6 away. Well we beat City, Arsenal and drew with Liverpool and we won the home games against the ones we lost. We beat every team once last year, who's to say we can't win an extra 3 games and get to around 90 points?

Your hypothetical scenarios are nonsense because they're hypothetical. Ifs ifs ifs. All I know is that we have a team that can beat anyone on their day and a manager who is fantastic at affecting games from the touchline. That alone means we have a chance!

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14 Aug 2018 19:47:00
They're the 4th best team in the league Beast, they're a good outfit. They'll win more than they lose but until their one dimensional manager can get them over the line, I remain unconvinced.

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14 Aug 2018 19:10:25
Noucamp, we're sounding more and more like that lot down the road? Would that be Liverpool? Who the doom and gloomers wish we played like? Who never stop comparing them to us?

It's easy being pessimistic. It's the same group that lost their lunch last year when we signed Matic over Bakayoko. Lovely how that one worked out isn't it. Complain complain complain. It's pathetic!

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14 Aug 2018 16:14:18
Ok Beast, if City are the benchmark for Jose to be judged on then let's talk. In the summer of 2016 they both took over as manager of their respective clubs. That summer United finished 5th while City finished 4th. The year before that, United finished 4th, City were Champions.

Jose had to rebuild a squad that had been woefully managed the last decade. We were crying out for a new spine and that's what Jose spent his first transfer window addressing. Our world class players list before Jose took over would read "De Gea". That's it, I can't think of another player in that squad that would be considered "world class".

Pep on the other hand took over a much more balanced side. World class players would be Kompany, Silva, De Bruyne, Aguero. The spine of the team had been together for years. Won titles together. Pep just needed to fine tune the City team. Jose had to rebuild our's.

While nearly every position in our team needed improvement, Jose had to be systematic about it. Money being a finite resource, it was going to take a few windows and fair few quid to make us title challengers again.

The fact that you belittle winning the "weak" trophies smacks of arrogance. Did you jump out of your seat when Zlatan scored the third goal in the league cup final? Last minute winner at Wembley, if that doesn't get your juices going then find a new sport. Europa League may not be as easy on the eye as it's cousin, but it's still a big trophy to win. I was proud of the team winning that competition, first time in our history.

Then our second season comes around. Jose bolsters the defence, midfield and attack. He wanted another wide player but for whatever reason, the board wouldn't get him the player he wanted.

A small hop across Manchester. Pep decides the 30 million pound goal keeper he bought before isn't good enough so he replaces him with a 50 million pound one. Buys 3 full backs for a combined fee of a small nations defense budget. And another 110 million on Stones and Laporte. And that's just the defense!

Our 94 team, 99 team, 08 team, points wise couldn't touch this Manchester City team. I don't know how you can use it as a stick to beat Jose with. "Finished 2nd despite not coming close to winning it and being fortunate". This is truly embarrassing.

The facts are, we don't have a devine right to win the league. Finishing second last year wasn't fortunate, it was good management. We finished second behind a team that as bought 23 players to our 14. City have given Pep every player he's asked for while our club penny pinches over players Jose wants.

The amount of negativity around the club is horrible. I remember last year kicking off the league campaign with a few 4-0 wins. The doom and gloomers saying "it was only Swansea, it was only West ham". Liverpool start off the campaign with a 4-0 win and the same people are on here telling us how fast they unbuckled their belts.

Are we capable of beating any team that is put in front of us? Yes! Are we capable of mounting a title challenge? Yes!

Get behind the team for once. It can be enjoyable!

Mumbles