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08 Jun 2018 21:33:59
Lingard was not even in England's Euro 2016 squad. I don't even think he was on the standby list.

Now he is wearing No 7 for England in the World Cup.

I have not seen 1 person, 1 journo, 1 human praise Jose for this.

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08 Jun 2018 22:00:20
Doesn't suit some agendas scholes.

08 Jun 2018 23:04:07
But Ken, Guardiola has completelt turned around the career of £50m Raheem Sterling lol. Why doesn't anyone mention how John Stones is getting on under his 'genius'?

08 Jun 2018 23:55:36
Van gaal should get a mention as well in that respect.

09 Jun 2018 01:18:21
The way Jose should get a mention for giving Morata and Carvajal their Madrid debuts?

09 Jun 2018 07:06:48
I thought we were talking about Lingard's rise.

Also, wasn't Carvajal's debut under CA?

09 Jun 2018 07:37:01
So the good form of Lingard and Young is entirely down to the magnificent Mourinho, yet the poor form of Pogba, Shaw, Martial, Rashford, Herrera, Lindelof, Mata, Blind, Darmian, Rojo ect is down to the players not working hard enough and Mourinho cannot be at fault for that even though it is kind of his job to motivate the players to work hard.

Who needs a press officer providing spin when there are fans out there that will do it for him. Lol.

09 Jun 2018 07:52:46
Scholes. i'm not Mourinho's biggest fan as you might have noticed. But in a post a week ago, i did mention the big improvement in lingard Mctominay young last season. However, for every lingard we have rashford martial pogba shaw hererra mata mkhitaryan bailly lindelof who have all stalled or gone backwards.
So we must take the squad as a whole to see if we have progressed or not. The answer is a big NO.
You write about guadiola with Stones, i agree Stones is rubbish. But look at the job guadiola has done with Sterling Sane Jesus Fernandinho delph and otamendi. They've been transformed from previous years. Also, he changed the rolls of Silva and de bruyne and they have completely flourished last season.
I'm afraid that if you're trying to make an argument for guadiola versus Mourinho, then 19 points gap, goal difference of nearly double say it all.

09 Jun 2018 08:01:26
I was never a fan of LVG - but I mentioned last week I was watching the History channel series Football Godfathers, his one hour interview with Geoff Shreeves - the amount of players he gave debuts to is unreal, so many top players and he said that's where his enjoyment came from, youth set ups.

09 Jun 2018 09:10:21
Fergie and his staff always said Jesse would break through around this age. The desperation smells strong in the OP.

09 Jun 2018 09:47:17
I think Jesse has improved, but just because he is playing for England that doesn't mean much to me - Southgate is not the oracle, nor was Allardyce, Hodgson etc they were mediocre club managers picking from a limited selection of internationals - mostly on reputation.

He doesn't effect games often enough nor for long enough periods, he is an impact player. Every squad needs them, but he is a 7/ 10 player. Occasionally he will make the difference, but more often than not you wouldn't notice the difference if he was playing or not.

In terms of Jose's effect on him, who knows, but if he is getting credit then he ought to get criticism for those that have stalled or gone backwards as Shappy says. I prefer to look at the overall picture and that is our average players look slightly better, our top class players tend to look like average players! That is wrong for a club in our position.

09 Jun 2018 12:03:26
Well said Scholes. Phil Jones also progressed under Jose until he got injuried 😆😆.







 

 

 
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