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31 May 2018 13:01:43
So, at the risk of making some people angry and possibly labeling myself as toxic, .


Who would take Zidane over jose right now?

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31 May 2018 13:38:55
Yes, why don't we have new manager every 6 months. He's got a lovely romantic French name. Give him the job.

31 May 2018 13:11:57
Dont know if that would even be possible, what about the targets drawn up . in and out? backroom staff etc etc as its pretty obvious its a huge shock he only told perez yesterday which seems true as the media are completely shocked.

Anyway, the guy seems genuinely in need of a break by the sound of it, talking of the stress on him in recent interview.

Deschamps is not popular. can see ZZ gettign that gig if he wants it.

31 May 2018 14:22:25
Zidane is a fantastic motivator and can handle the Egos really well.

Jose is a fantastic motivator, tactician, analyst and ego handler.

I think if you asked Real Madrid fans which ones they preferred out of the two they'd say Jose.

31 May 2018 15:17:59
Jose was good at Real . Then it all imploded. Stats are good though. I bet he would go back if asked 😆😆.

31 May 2018 15:44:10
Supasub, I agree with the concept of what you've said, we definitely don't want to be constantly changing manager. But if we've got the decision wrong then there's no point sticking with it.

So wanting to keep jose is a reasonable opinion to hold, but not switching because we don't want to change managers too frequently is not a good reason to keep him on its own.

Personally I don't think firing jose to get Zz would be a good idea, but if a better manager comes along I've no qualms firing the guy.

31 May 2018 15:44:57
BfBW I agree, I don't think it's likely to happen. I don't think Zz would even want it, certainly not right now.

31 May 2018 15:22:49
swap deal then?

31 May 2018 16:04:42
Zidane needs a year out, this time next year we may be looking for a manager, who knows?

31 May 2018 16:08:53
Is zidane a good manager? He has just been coach. I would prefer Blanc over zidane as at least Blanc has played for United, and I liked the way PSG played when Blanc was there.

31 May 2018 16:11:13
And whilst we are doing swapsies. Bale for Smalling please . Also my lad needs Vardy and Ramos for his World Cup sticker book . He has Salah and A Shiney Iceland badge ⚽⚽😆😆⚽⚽.

31 May 2018 16:16:03
If the rumour is true and we’re looking at Arnautovic, then yes. We do not need another average player in our squad. He’s had one half decent season and is not worth the reported £50 million.
If this is the calibre of player Jose is after then I’d rather Moyes back!

31 May 2018 16:17:41
Zizou will replace Deschamps after the World Cup makes perfect sense.

31 May 2018 16:46:43
Heard he be managing Qatar at the next world cup. Big money on offer.

31 May 2018 17:23:40
Jose worked with Arnie before and he has stepped it up of late, it’s not all about wonderful names, Arnie may end up being a star or it may be pie in the sky, Just trust Jose, not like he’s not won things before is it.

31 May 2018 17:51:43
redD, I am not a Mourinho fan. I think he will ruin the club for another year and then get sacked. But if we are going to go for another manager, then why not promote from within, Carrick/ Scholes/ Neville/ Butt . Choice is very good.

31 May 2018 18:18:23
Triple A, I'm not Jose's biggest fan, but sacking him and giving the likes of neville etc the job is asking for mid table performance, lots of passion, but those guys aren't going to be as good as jose, not for about another 10 yrs. If one of them had been the number 2 for the last couple of years I'd be more comfortable with it, but just straight in with no real experience is asking for trouble. Neville didn't exactly set the world alight in his last managerial job.

31 May 2018 18:26:44
I’d sign Zidane as a player - he’d get a game in our midfield right now.

31 May 2018 19:31:35
Sorry AAA replacing Jose with one of the class of 92 would be one of the most sentimental and poorly thought out decisions the club could ever make. This obsession with appointing one of them is blinded by love for them. Managing Manchester United is a different beast to any team in the premier league, and on par with real, Barcelona and perhaps Bayern. People will allude to pep and Zidane being promoted from within but look at the quality of squad they inherited as opposed to what Neville or butt would inherit at united. The goal posts are not the same and unless they go and get some experience or work as an assistant to Jose/ whoever is manager, they should not be mentioned anywhere near the United Job. Whereas I would be happy to see Carrick be considered in the future if he is still part of the coaching team.

Now I’m not saying Jose is unsackable because they are several things he has said and done which may be construed as so. But at the end of the day we have made progress and he deserves another year. Again I don’t buy into the narrative he will ‘ruin’ the club for another year. We were in dire straits when he joined and I along with many fans feared we would vanish into obscurity. If he signs the likes of Fred, Alderweireld, Sandro, bale and perhaps savic, not even the most anti-Jose supporter can claim that he has left the club in a worse state than he inherited it.

Can I see us winning the league next year under him? Unfortunately I can see it being city’s. Am I looking forward to the season? Damn right I am because we will sign some very good players and I believe the style will improve. Will Jose have a third season meltdown? Perhaps, but let’s not write off the bloke before the season has even started. A bit of positivity would not go a miss from time to time.

I understand your concerns AAA but we could be in far worse situations such as the one Chelsea are currently in. I like Zidane and his record his staggering. If Jose is to leave then I would like him to be considered. The same for jardim, Poch, Tuchel or even Blanc who played some wonderful football at PSG. I feel zidane is destined to manage in the premier league, and who better than the biggest and most successful club in the country.

31 May 2018 19:52:38
Welsh Red Devil, I trust Jose that he has scouted and could potentially sign a future ‘star’ in Dalot. I would just rather us push one of the youth players like Chong into the first team and give them a squad number rather than blow £50 odd million on an average Prem player. He’s had 4-5 seasons in the Premier league and at 29 had shown nothing to say he would be a ‘star’ for Manchester United.
It baffles if we really are looking at Arnautovic.

31 May 2018 20:16:49
Park. I think Carrick will make a very good manager. But no one will know unless we try. No one thought zidane will make a manager, but he's done ok, hasn't he? Pep didn't have experience, but he's turned out ok.
I'm concerned about the attitude mourinho is adopting with players, fans, press, owners, refs, dinner ladies. He seems to want to fight with everyone. And his tactics will never be successful in this era. Football has moved on.
Re Neville, he took over a terrible valencia side that were bottom of the league and had been struggling badly. He had to go there, learn the language, acclamatise to the league, familiarize himself with the players and work on tactics against teams he didn't know a lot about. He knows our league inside out and will make an excellent assistant.
Only time will tell. But we could do a lot worse than having our successful and passionate ex players manage our team. let's face it, they can't be doing much worse than mourinho did against Brighton Huddersfield Newcastle Seville etc.

31 May 2018 20:24:33
I asked the question the other day . If Zidane is a great manager or was he a manager of a great team.

I think the team ran the show there, the team was every good as the one barcelona was under Guardiola.

Zidane will inspire players to work their socks off, he has the charisma about him but i don't know how strong he is tactically. He reminds me off Ancelloti, Ancelloti can inspire you in cup competitions but in the keague it takes a lot more then charisma you have to know your stuff tactically.

But hey i don't know anything i could be well off.

31 May 2018 20:34:32
AAA fair point about Neville I too think he would be an excellent assistant. I don’t think the Valencia debacle was a true reflection of his ability. But again he strikes me as someone who would be a better assistant than manager.

I do hope we start appointing managers who believe football should be played the United way. We have an identity which the last three managers have not endorsed during their careers. We should be hiring those that fit the traditions and ethos. I agree Jose doesn’t. He says some questionable things but again I feel like he gets an unfair rap from the press and fans. When he does something it’s blown way out of proportion. I think he is a manager we needed at this stage of our ‘rebuilding’ (hate this word) . I don’t think he will get us playing the United way. But I think he will make us effective and he will win. The next manager has to be very carefully picked. I would love Carrick to be groomed because he seems to be an extremely well respected member of the squad and an intelligent man. Time will tell but I think we both agree we really just want to see some sort of succession plan which is in keeping with the traditions and ethos of Manchester United.

31 May 2018 21:26:28
I think it's a bit of both with zidane. One champions league is lucky, 3 shows there's something about him.

I wouldn't be against giving him a crack when jose finishes up next year.

31 May 2018 23:52:58
Jose finishes contract and ZZ signs then.

01 Jun 2018 00:17:02
Agreed Park. I think the next manager has to know and respect the club's traditions. I think Carrick fits within that mould. Also, i honestly think g Neville will be a demanding and successful coach/ assistant. He's intelligent and not afraid to speak his mind. And if you cut him in half, he'll be United through and through.

01 Jun 2018 00:53:08
How on earth does Carrick even get a look in? Seems. like an intelligent chap, I'll give you that, and a quality player, but why one earth would we assume he has what it takes to manage one of the biggest clubs on earth, especially given the hatch scrutiny he'd be under, and the huge expectations.

I like the guy, but manager? I don't think so, maybe in 10 yrs, but bit yet.

01 Jun 2018 03:44:20
How about let's show a bit of loyalty.







 

 

 
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