01 Jul 2016 14:24:20
Ed02, do you think the Ibrahimovic deal is a good one for the club? Very good player with plenty of leadership and experience, won't be here long term and won't block Rashford's path, but on the other hand, he'll be on a huge wage and won't find it as easy as he has done in the French league. curious to see what you're thoughts were if you don't mind.
Thanks.
{Ed002's Note - No, I think it is a mistake to put such a significant amount of the wage budget with one player for one year who will be disruptive in the dressing room, will rub people up the wrong way and will limit the playing time of Rashford.}
01 Jul 2016 15:12:22
I don’t doubt that Zlatan can cause trouble and make enemies quickly, his confidence borders arrogance and that won't sit well at UTD. However, does this mean that JM will turn a blind eye to him causing trouble? Or will JM keep him in his place and stop the Hassel before it starts?
{Ed002's Note - I am not sure you understand about Ibrahimovic.}
01 Jul 2016 15:26:45
Glad there are other who think that way too Ed002. He's just looking for a last big pay day, end of. I know a lot of people think along the lines of 'its not our money, so we shouldn't worry about it', and the same with transfer fees. But no club has a bottomless pit of money, so surely spending big fees and massive wages on individuals will have a knock on effect on other potential deals?
I have serious reservations about Zlatan, and even bigger ones about the whole Pogba talk.
United throwing money around is, in my view, just the club trying to make a statement. To me, the only statement it makes is that we are spending money recklessly in a bid to convince ourselves that we are still top dogs, and to passify impatient fans who demand instant success.
Despite the euphoria of many, I honestly fear for another hugely disappointing season of under achievement.
Sure there is money o be spent, but it needs spending in the right areas. Another quality CB is needed, and another top midfielder. We also need more quality up front. But pace is needed. Has been for a long time. Zlatan does not bring that.
I honestly hope I am wrong about him, and that he is a huge success. Time will tell I suppose.
01 Jul 2016 16:09:24
Speaking of Rashford, what are your thoughts on him as a player Ed002?
{Ed002's Note - I tend not to think about young men at all Rosie. Have you got a sister?}
01 Jul 2016 16:15:00
Good player but i agree with betty and ed on this.
01 Jul 2016 16:59:08
I do but she doesn't like competition and probably wouldn't get on with all of your wives.
01 Jul 2016 17:04:36
Rashford isn't ready imo. Who does he have to learn from in training, Rooney, ha? Ibra could be a great thing for the dressing room in my opinion and for Martial/ Rashford/ Depay, it needs shaking up as it is, too many soft people lacking a killer instinct. Besides they have just put up with LVG for 2 years, every day must have been a pride swallowing exercise.
I think Rashford will get a lot of game time in any case, due to the amount of games and Ibra being subbed and rotated for fitness, not to mention we could play with two up from time to time (in my dreams) .
The team needs a figurehead. It was meant to be Rooney, then Schweiny but it just hasn't worked and both for one reason or another, they are not reliable enough to lead by example and dominate a game. Allowing younger players to feel that confidence you only get from having the man with the biggest balls on the pitch on your side, fighting your battles etc, is worth it's weight in goals.
I have no doubt Ibra is coming for a big pay day and experience as you say guys, but so what, a generation ago that was something worthy of criticising, not so much now. 99% of players go to the club paying the most money nowadays, the constant disrespect has made us ignorant or less annoyed when it occurs - power of media!
So a great move for me, but maybe I will be proved wrong.
01 Jul 2016 17:27:50
We got lvg a couple of years ago and the eds told us the issues he would bring probably with a bit more knowledge of the situation than many on the site .
01 Jul 2016 17:33:38
I totally agree beast I can only see it doing the club good.
01 Jul 2016 18:02:23
I agree beast very good post imo.
All transfers are a gamble to some extent. This is not an expensive one relative to others and the upside is potentially huge.
A lot of well respected players that have played with him have great things to say about his comradship and leadership he will bring a winning mentality and in a dressing room sorely lacking in role models for our younger players his presence will inspire them.
Hopefully he rattles a few cages of some of our more arrogant and under performing so called senior players that can only be a good thing. Jose knows him well and knows how he behaves so it holds no fears for me.
01 Jul 2016 18:36:56
It's hard to say what the dressing room is like or the mentality in it imo.
It's fairly low risk as he is only here for 12 month.
I watched him a lot last season and he is a class act but I think he could struggle in the epl . Pace and work rate will be an issue plus epl cbs are good at marking strikers that go toe to toe with them a lot will depend on how the team sets up .
I think the euros showed he won't do it on his own .
He has reputation for not being a good if any influence with the kids and that's well documented, (have the eds got any opinion on that, or is it just rumour) .
But it's a great bit of marketing and should be entertaining can't wait.
01 Jul 2016 19:27:30
Well said, Ken. Couldn't agree more.
01 Jul 2016 19:20:53
Not sure anybody can do it in their own jred.
If the euros showed us that about zlatan what has it shown us about Muller? Ronaldo? lewandowski? Iniesta? None of whom covered themselves in glory.
International football is not a good barometer as its a totally different game to club football. They are all still excelling for their clubs.
02 Jul 2016 10:50:39
Ken
Really? Reading some of the post other the past weeks i thought zlatan could walk on water.
He is going to teach all the kids lead all the players win us the league .
Joking aside i think some over rate him a bit.