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18 Jun 2022 19:21:21
I would assume Arsenal's mooted interest in Martinez would scupper any Timber deal, can't see any club wanting to lose their centreback pairing in the same window. Feels like a deal for Timber has been slipping away anyway this week. Guess Torres is back at the top of the list?

spenno

1.) 18 Jun 2022 19:48:09
Don't know how true it is, but I read a few days ago, that Timber doesn't want to join us as it may jeopardise his place in the Holland squad. With it being a world Cup year, makes sense.


2.) 18 Jun 2022 20:06:44
Ed002 did say on the Arsenal page that interest from United may start to ramp up on Martinez, so maybe we go for him too?

Hopefully, we can get a couple through the door before pre season starts.


3.) 18 Jun 2022 20:09:50
I don’t understand the ‘he doesn’t want to move to just sit on the bench in a World Cup year’ line.

He’d play almost every week for us - either at RB or CB.


4.) 18 Jun 2022 20:13:43
I read that too, been warned off by LvG was the tagine.


5.) 18 Jun 2022 20:19:57
Should have said tagline.

I prefer Martinez to Timber, I think he is far more important to Ajax and is one of the key players that makes them tick and helps in the transitions.


6.) 18 Jun 2022 22:17:10
Yeah donny probably thought or was told he'd be starting every week. Look how that went.


7.) 18 Jun 2022 22:17:10
Yeah donny probably thought or was told he'd be starting every week. Look how that went.


8.) 18 Jun 2022 22:36:06
By all accounts Donny seemed an impromptu signing in a position that wasn’t even of urgent attention at the time. Almost a gift from the board, without being asked. And now there are positions that need urgent attention with apparently no activity. I can only hope and pray there is a lot going on in the background.


9.) 19 Jun 2022 08:02:55
Football is simple, play well and you’ll play in the team! Donny had about 20 minutes where I thought he is a player, the rest I didn’t even know he was playing, he needs to look at himself not blame everyone else!


 

 

15 Jun 2022 19:10:25
Rumours of Henderson on loan to Forest?
Makes sense from a Forest point of view, with Samba not signing a new contract.
But a bit underwhelming for Henderson perhaps. Forest will be an unknown quantity as they don't seem to own any of their own players. I assume they'll go for Garner again and eventually they'll have to buy him.

spenno

1.) 15 Jun 2022 19:51:17
Underwhelming?
He is 25 and played less than 50 epl games or there abouts. I think he should consider himself lucky if a pl team come in for him.


2.) 15 Jun 2022 19:54:15
Can't have two loans from the same team in the Premier League which would signal that perhaps Garner has been told he's staying with United.


3.) 15 Jun 2022 20:07:37
Game time. for him again gets him out in the market.


4.) 15 Jun 2022 20:36:50
I assume its genuine as Simon Stone is reporting it on the Beeb and United love to brief him to post updates on our activity.

We could just actually complete something therefore we could post some actual news.


5.) 15 Jun 2022 21:05:17
Didn’t realise the two player loan rule. Surely Forest would rather opt for Garner who was integral to them last season if it’s a choice of the two?


6.) 15 Jun 2022 21:08:27
I’d say we will keep Garner.


7.) 15 Jun 2022 21:42:31
Ken, half a year ago Henderson was on Spurs’ radar and pushing for the England team. So a likely relegation scrap with Forest might not be what he had in mind when imagining what stories he could tell his grandkids in 20 years. Then again the likes of Pope have maintained a decent stock playing for lowly teams.


8.) 16 Jun 2022 06:23:19
I wouldve thought going on loan to a relegation challenger would mean he would see way more action that if he joined a higher team.


9.) 16 Jun 2022 10:36:49
It is possible that discussions have been had and there is no option within the PL from clubs higher up the league. You have to consider a fee and his wages would put him out of the reach of most clubs.
Forrest would be a good option for him, he had a good season with Sheffield Utd even though they were struggling.
If he is successful Forrest could flip him in a season for a profit for maybe a Spurs/ Arsenal/ West Ham depending on how there positions look.
Also, Southgate has shown that he does not care if you are playing for a lower club especially in the goalkeeper position so could put him in line for recall if doing well.


10.) 16 Jun 2022 11:34:26
Here's what I think will happen.

He'll go to Forest on loan with a 20m buy option.

Tear it up and be a key player in them staying up.

While DDG struggles to get to grips with playing out from the back and being a sweeper keeper.

Forest will then activate the buy option in Henderson's deal and probably sell him off to Spurs or Chelsea for 35m banking a 15m profit and strengthening one of our rivals for top four.

While United then have to search the market for a suitable keeper, probably spending upwards of 40m on a keeper next summer.

All while the press jump all over United for the poor handling of Henderson.


11.) 16 Jun 2022 12:19:59
Shappy,


I agree with you. Although I thought he might have been given a chance with EtH who was rumoured to have wanted him on loan at Ajax last season. Perhaps Henderson is ready to move on and isn't prepared to stay.


12.) 16 Jun 2022 12:59:31
Giorgi Mamardashvili is the name that keeps cropping up as a potential backup GK signing so I assume he plays more in the mould EtH wants his keepers to.


 

 

16 May 2022 12:53:37
Good afternoon Ed, I see Kanye is the latest CDM to be linked with us. He's a lot older than players we've been linked with but I feel he could do a great job for a few seasons at least.
Is there any interest from Utd, and would Chelsea be up for a transfer? Thanks in advance.

spenno

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any approach by Manchester United to Chelsea for Kanye but another side have asked after him. Chelsea would not stand in the way of a player who says he wants to leave.


1.) 17 May 2022 09:30:28
I hear he's off to West Ham.


2.) 17 May 2022 12:30:57
More chance of getting Kanye west than kante.


3.) 17 May 2022 14:18:18
Utd have the kardashians playing in defence so why not Kanye in Midfield? Maybe sign up Jay Z to play alongside him.


4.) 17 May 2022 18:21:43
Laugh it up you jokers.


5.) 19 May 2022 07:02:15
Woodward would have snapped Kanye up, over the hill galactico, massive social media presence and in the headlines constantly.


 

 

28 Apr 2022 11:30:58
Ed, I've seen a few reports suggesting Utd could be interested in Sebastian Haller. Is this an easy assumption due to him being an Ajax player or is he a genuine option if Utd are looking for a striker? He was very underwhelming at West Ham but is having a great season. Many thanks.

spenno

{Ed002's Note - Sebastian Haller (S) Inter are interested in the revived Haller - Ajax will resist a sale. I am not aware of any approach by Manchester United.}


1.) 28 Apr 2022 12:06:46
Thanks Ed.


 

 

25 Apr 2022 13:37:55
Would James Ward-Prowse be a Utd target this summer, Ed? Looks capable of making the step up and we could use a few new mids for sure.

spenno

{Ed002's Note - No.}


1.) 25 Apr 2022 15:29:23
Thank god for that! Why do people just shout our random names!


2.) 25 Apr 2022 16:27:01
What's random about it? I think it's a worthwhile suggestion. Manchester United have one of the weakest midfields in the PL.


3.) 25 Apr 2022 16:34:41
And Southamptons not much better! But I guess if we want to stay around mid table he would be a good shout but personally I think if he is level we are looking at, then some of our youngsters might as well be tried and save the money…. best start looking for TH replacement next year too if we are signing that calibre of player.


4.) 25 Apr 2022 18:06:54
If we only want big names then stick with Paul Pogba.


5.) 25 Apr 2022 18:30:52
Seriously UA your now suggesting Ward Prowse is where we want to be, I’m all for going for non superstars but is Ward Prowse ant better then some of our youngsters he reached his level and for me that’s just not good enough! Not sure Pogba is the yardstick to measure by, although he probably got more talent in one foot then ward Prowse it’s his attitude and application that’s away with the ferries, but come on Waed Prowse someone mentioned Tarowski too, we are doomed if that’s what we aiming at.


6.) 26 Apr 2022 10:31:14
Juicer, i am not advocating Ward Prosse rather commenting on your post calling him a random name. If Ward Prowse is a random name for you than that suggests you are only looking for superstars.


 

 

 

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11 Jun 2022 12:28:30
Remember when we were 'on the brink' of signing Timber three weeks ago? Now it's Antony's turn. Wonder if we'll actually have a first signing of the window this weekend.

spenno

1.) 11 Jun 2022 12:47:56
Sit back and enjoy the ride. There's no need to rush signings if they are going to be complicated.


2.) 11 Jun 2022 12:58:21
I love all the speculation and drama Mad Hatter, not just of Utd but all Prem teams. For example Spence to Spurs. Wonder if he was ever an option? Then the opening day of the season with all the new-look line-ups.


3.) 11 Jun 2022 13:01:46
Its interesting how only utd's signings are so complicated. City can sign haaland without needing a day by day update, madrid just signed camavinga again without much fuss. Nothing this window suggests woodward and co. have left, seems more and more like their names just changed.


4.) 11 Jun 2022 13:14:59
How did Madrid signing haaland and mbappe go common sense moyes?
Or City signing kane last season?
How is juve looking to sign pogba?
Nobody gets all their 1st choices just like that. Nobody.


5.) 11 Jun 2022 13:49:11
Its not about whether we get our first choice or not, its about signing players without it being a roller coaster ride. Every signing's a soap opera. He's coming, no he doesn't want to come, we can't agree a fee, when was the last time we had a non saga signing. I get trying to sign FDJ is a complicated, but timberr is also complicated, nunez got complicated. Doesn't shout competence when every signing is a big media saga where every single update is leaked.


6.) 11 Jun 2022 13:54:23
I guess the more attractive the club the easier the dealings with the agent and player. Camavinga and Haaland I guess didn't need much convincing. Utd seem like a hard sell these days but I hope come next summer's window we're in a much greater place, with CL on the horizon and a clear, positive style of play. Am I asking too much there!


7.) 11 Jun 2022 14:19:35
Common sense, maybe its an issue with someone above, new structure but same old problems can only point towards joel glazer.

Maybe he's the reason why we go at a snails pace wants to get to involved in the transfers

I get he has to approve but why have people in roles if you don't trust them to do their jobs.


8.) 11 Jun 2022 14:42:09
Csm nunez wasn't complicated he wanted Liverpool.
Was kane not a saga and ultimately a faild chase for kane?
Was Madrid signing mbappe not a saga?
It's the same for all clubs.
Vvd was 18 months signing for Liverpool.
Although Chelsea got lukaku in really quickly they would have been better doing more due diligence.
Do you know how hard it is to get multi million pound deals over the line in any walk of life.


9.) 11 Jun 2022 15:04:08
Spenno,

I'm not expecting much this summer, maybe 3 signings max.

I think a few loan and youth players will be given a chance aswell.


10.) 11 Jun 2022 15:10:11
You keep harping on and on about kane and mbappe, but madrid just signed tchoumeni for 100mn must have missed the difficult part to keep it quiet part, city signed haaland without having to detail every single meeting they had with his reps, liverpool also didn't feel the need with likes of mane, salah, diaz, even nunez thing seems to have gone quiet now that utd are out of the picture. But please tell me how difficult a transfer deal is without media knowing everything that is going on.


11.) 11 Jun 2022 15:51:08
Come. They don't know. Ed002 has told you on here often that bids are not made despite report after report that bids have not been made.
Stop believing what you read.


12.) 11 Jun 2022 16:47:14
City been working on Halland since Kane went west last summer, Real Madrid have there targets, because not been a change of manager, our manager started weeks ago and yet he is supposed to chuck everyone out and make all these new sexy signings, signings TBF that have done zero in premier league, yet you all think much better then what we got.
Remember whatever ED014 says, United are 3rd biggest fan base club, after Madrid and Barca, so there name sells stories, that’s why United are probably the most linked club to every player, maybe ETH already knows exactly what he wants.
I just would love some of you to be involved in multimillion pound deal at board level away from football and see how difficult it is, and the press not involved in that or forums!


13.) 11 Jun 2022 16:48:30
I’d expect the club are working on a number of deals and due to the international window that final stages are are delayed.

I expect we announce Timber and De Jong next week.


14.) 11 Jun 2022 17:25:14
CSM,

It’s as much of a drama as you make it yourself. You’re on a rumours site and I assume you’re checking on social media as well, if you weren’t you would have absolutely no idea who the club were after and would just hear about it when they are signed. Then you wouldn’t think anything of it. A lot of the stuff you read is nonsense anyway, if you stopped reading or believing everything it’s so much better.

Haaland was a city fan as a kid and had a release clause, he wanted to sign for them and there was no negotiation, if you want us to only sign players with release clauses then I’m sure we could but I’d prefer we sign players we actually want.


15.) 11 Jun 2022 19:32:23
Harland was a saga, 2 years of saga, then the player chose city and the release claus makes everything very simple.

I'm sure if you went on Madrid or Barcelona media you would see huge amounts of rumours and stories for those clubs. Social media uses algorithms to feed you what you are clicking on, so every utd story gets fed to us all and we lap it up.

Add to that that utd sells. Most fans either support or hate utd, it gets clicks. EtH gets his first signing, we click and he has brought in a new chef to the canteen!

Ed002 has given us loads of info about players we have interest in. Now we just need to be patient and let the club go to work.


16.) 11 Jun 2022 20:03:28
United sell media, of course everyone runs a story every day on us and people lap it up, just look how much of it makes it here. A lot of the time media outlets just report another's story. Social Media has made things even worse, at least back in the day you read whatever bull your rag of choice made up and maybe got told by a mate what their rag of choice had made up.

Nowadays we have 24/ 7 bull spread across hundreds of competing sites needing your money and a few hours later the run another story.

We have no real idea who we are after, who we have asked about, who we bid for or how serious we are about any of the names mentioned.

We don't know we haven't spoke to Nunez and 6 weeks ago realised it wouldn't work and moved on. We don't know if Ten Hag or Murtagh has decided this guy is the man and are not giving up because he is the Messiah.

I don't believe anything I read and certainly don't get upset about it because we just don't have the details. The reason I bet a lot of us are here is cause we trust Eds updates as being our best source of accurate info having read bull for 40 transfer windows.

I will judge United after the end of the window and then over the next 18 will reassess that opinion as guys come in and settle and get used to the new city, club, system, manager teammates.

I once thought Fergie had a crap January after Evra and Vidic transfers.

I can remember the brilliant Veron signing and how everyone was over the moon at the amazing midfielder who had everything.

I do t know how it's going to go, I don't know how the signings we didn't make will pan out, how the ones we capture will do.

What I do love though about football whether on here or up the pub or arwork is discussing opinions, disagreeing with each other everyone arguing their own points with their own plans of what you'd do then hoping at the end of the day the person who got it right was your clubs DoF and Manager and that next year you are significantly better.


17.) 11 Jun 2022 20:42:22
What a load of rubbish some talk. The fact is we ARE rubbish at the transfer market, we DO take ages to sign players and we WILL have a nightmare transfer window.
Bolger is absolutely right, Djed Spence, a fantastic RB, will be the best RB in the PL in 2 years time, £20m. Why weren't United involved when we know the two jokers we have at RB are not even championship standard?
Why does Manchester United have to "prioritise" signings, when we're supposed to be in the top three most popular clubs in the world?
The fact, as Ed002 keeps telling us, is that we are a second rate club run by idiots who don't give a toss about football.
So, let's stop making excuses about City not signing Kane, Madrid not signing Mbapape and all the other bull, the fact is we don't compete in the transfer market and we've earned a crap reputation. So, let's sit and wait while Madrid Liverpool, City, Spurs sign all the best young talent, and then we have to sign some overrated rubbish and pay over the top for them.
The fact is some people who are going on about how complicated these big deals are don't actually know anything about setting up these deals.
So, let's just do what United do best these days, dither, delay, haggle and fail miserably.


18.) 11 Jun 2022 22:36:05
Love it when people present their opinions as facts. The FAcT is you can choose to be miserable or you can choose to be happy. What ever happens happens, but how you respond to it is your choice. Seems like a few are choosing a long and difficult summer!


19.) 11 Jun 2022 23:05:01
Dodgy, I'm extremely happy and live a wonderful life in the sun. But I love the club I've been supporting since the late 60s. I think Bolger made a good point re djed spence, also the other posters re Nunez. But the problem is we have been dealing in this way in the transfer market for years, and I think we all agree that its not really worked out very well.
A young RB comes along, costing a moderate amount, but possessing massive potential and we don't even try to sign him, this is one of the areas that needs strengthening and we could've done that, yet we passed the chance.
I think a lot of frustration comes from the knowledge that we always deliberate too much and end up missing on our targets. Rangnick mentioned that before he left, Luis Diaz being one example.
Also, we have a new manager, new coaches, new systems. Does it not make sense to buy the players, so that the manager has a full pre-season with them?
There are too many excuses made about the window has just opened etc, but that's not stopped the properly run clubs from conducting their business early.


20.) 12 Jun 2022 01:25:42
I'm very happy to here it AAA.

Surely we are not going to start bemoaning every other player that is signed by someone in the epl? Never heard us linked with him, then a rival signs him and we a frustrated at our club that we didn't?

When we go for players, the price is often inflated. We are seen as a cash cow who have boat loads of cash and often the media is used by both sides of the deal, and the player's representatives. For years it seemed that we were used by la Liga stars who wanted to increase their contracts in Spain.

Poster above is right. How many times have we been delighted with a signing that ended up being poor (veron, Bastian, ADM) and when the less obvious signings come in (Evra, Vidic) we're not convinced.

I realise that transfer rumours are exciting, but we've already had weeks of panic and frustration from posters and the window literally just opened. Let it breath guys!


21.) 12 Jun 2022 06:39:48
Does this DJed Spence turn out good on football Manager/ fifa? He may turn out good but beating a club down over not signing a player that we don’t appear to be interested in is ridiculous.

Maybe ETH isn’t interested in a RB as we probably have more important areas to address first.

Perhaps we are finally going after the manager targets instead of club targets.

We all want new signings but most seem to want them done yesterday, they will happen we just need to relax.

Ed002 did respond on the arsenal page and say why buy straight away, take time to make sure you get the right players (it wasn’t word for word but it was along those lines)

I notice that supporters in general but mainly MUFC ones tend to believe reports with disappointing news, dismiss reports with positive news.

Transfer window has been open 2 days, chill out.


 

 

09 Apr 2022 11:54:05
Would love to see Rashy take his chance today and be able to put in a decent performance and maybe snatch a goal to boost his confidence. As much as a change might do him good next season we have so many other players leaving and I bet ten Hag would much prefer a happy Rashford at his disposal than having to budget for another signing.

spenno

1.) 09 Apr 2022 14:26:24
I would love to see Rashy shown the door ASAP
I did say 4 years ago he was awful and a one trick pony and got absolute pelters on here
Cash in now before his stock disintegrates totally.


2.) 09 Apr 2022 15:43:26
That's the problem. There's too many chances. 5 years ago Jose said rash will never be lead striker at united. Pogba is a C.V. Shaw doesn't use his head. 5 years later same story only you could add 6 more players to that list.


3.) 09 Apr 2022 15:47:43
Reality is there isn't one player in the squad who you can truly relate to as a genuine die-for-the-club United player and pray that they are in a United shirt at the start of next season. Each player provides one or more of a tactical challenge (even De Gea whose distribution is generally woeful and he can't sweep), a PR challenge (Pogba who can't wait to open his whinging mouth on international duty) or an ability challenge (Maguire, say no more) .


4.) 09 Apr 2022 16:33:59
Have been saying that for Rash forever now. He is useless and just plays because of his political connections now. I have been abused on here and called names but the truth is out now for all to see.


5.) 09 Apr 2022 18:51:03
It was tongue in cheek guys. But in all seriousness, I think we need a whole new back 4. Varane plays 50% of the time -
It’s not good enough to base a defence on.


 

 

25 Mar 2022 23:09:36
Maybe we’ll get to see Akanji up close against England on saturday? Seems a fitting audition.

spenno

1.) 26 Mar 2022 06:24:42
Never impressed me. Too lightweight for pl.


2.) 26 Mar 2022 08:39:12
Wouldnt judge anyone off of international football, its how we ended up with a £80m Fridge as captain.


3.) 26 Mar 2022 09:11:21
Pretty sure his stellar season with Leicester was what did that DSG? The price was ridiculous, but there were few complaints back then as I recall.


4.) 26 Mar 2022 09:39:37
Few complaints back then spenno you must have a crap memory.


5.) 26 Mar 2022 10:49:23
Spenno, here's a few posts I made before we signed Maguire:

26 Jul 2018 12:45:15
However, I don't rate Maguire all that highly, and certainly not enough to spend 50-65m on him. He is a solid mid to upper half of the table player. He is strong and he has a big head. However, his positioning and reading of the game is terrible and for someone so big and strong his headed clearances often don't clear the danger area. Maguire could work in a three man back line, but we would be left wide open if we played him in a traditional back four.

27 Jul 2018 10:04:54
Gds, if he signs I would be delighted to be wrong. If Maguire comes here and significantly improves us, I'd be surprised but very happy to be proved wrong on my opinion. If we wanted a CB who is PL proven and as good as Smalling or Jones why didn't we just sign Jonny Evans for £3m?

14 Jun 2019 18:54:32
I've said on here a few times that I'm really against the signing of Maguire. He's very good in both boxes at set pieces and is good enough on the ball but not much else in my opinion. The media have built him up as this fantastic defender off the back of a world cup where England didn't beat anyone of genuine quality despite getting to the semis and he played in a back 3 which helped cover some of his deficiencies.

The best sides would target him as he cannot deal with any type of quick movement around him. Coming out from the back with the ball is fine but the more I see of Maguire, the more I am convinced he is absolutely aimless when he runs with the ball and has no clue what his next pass will be.

02 Jul 2019 12:38:03
We MUST walk away from any deal for Maguire. I feel there is better out there for a lot less money. Short term Alderweireld would be a steal and immediately improve us. One other alongside Alderweireld but I believe Maguire would be a very expensive mistake.

14 Jul 2019 15:39:41
I'd be extremely disappointed if we sign Maguire. Even without looking at the financial side of a deal, in my opinion he isn't even as good as Lindelof. Of the attributes Maguire possesses the only clear improvement I could see him having on our defence is aerially in both a defensive and attacking sense.

If the club want to challenge for major honours, having Harry Maguire as your first choice centre back isn't the way to go about it for me and I really hope we see Dias or Milenkovic instead.

14 Jul 2019 20:00:39
I've commented quite a few times about how I do not want us to sign Maguire regardless of the fee. That's down to my opinion that he simply isn't that good and we could sign 10-15 CB who look like better options. However, if we sign him I hope he proves me entirely wrong and performs very well.

Signings don't always work out how we hope, I was very excited when we signed Falcao, Schneiderlin, Depay, Sanchez and Di Maria and all were/ have been brutal for us. So judging by how underwhelmed I feel about us signing Maguire, he's going to be incredible haha.

Some of those are dated from 2018 a whole year before we signed him, when we were first linked to him.

When he signed I hoped he'd step up, improve and round off his game. He hasn't, in fact I'd say he has regressed and gone backwards. When we signed him he was an average EPL centre back, currently he is a poor EPL CB.

The reality is there is little point sticking with Maguire. Realistically the best we can hope for him now is to recover his form and for him to return to being an average EPL CB with obvious flaws. He is not going to improve those weak areas of his game now. As such if at all possible I'd move him on, however, the reality is we will be suck with him as I can't imagine any side would even be prepared to take on his wages let alone pay any sort of fee for him.


6.) 26 Mar 2022 09:54:32
Spenno, I certainly complained back then, and I clearly remember not being the only dissenting voice.

He had a great season with Leicester, we looked to sign him and was told it would be 50m so walked away. He then had a decent season, but not great and we went back in and paid 80m.

As for Akanji, he's a decent player, but not a great one. He's the sort of player that if in the right system with the right set up he can be very good, but he doesn't have any outstanding qualities that make him a great option for any system. He isn't slow but then he isn't quick either, strong enough without being a beast, reads the game well enough, comfortable on the ball but no playmaker. He's a good solid second to play alongside a great CB and fill in the gaps as he can do most things well but isn't outstanding at anything.

In many respects he's much like Lindelof, good player but not great. Could be a good partner for a great player.

For that reason I'd give him a wide berth. We need a player who is capable of being great. Dream signing would be Josko Gvardiol from Leipzig. Young, great on the ball, quick and strong, mobile, good reading of the game and has a massive ceiling on his ability. Only 20 years old and could go on to become one of the best CB's of his generation. Also left footed and comfortable playing in a back four or a back three.

As the kind of defender who due to his outstanding qualities and potential he would suit either EtH or Pochettino.

Which as we don't know who will be our manager any signings that would suit any of the candidates should be strongly considered.


7.) 26 Mar 2022 09:57:51
What stellar Leicester season was this, they came 9th with 52 points in 2018/ 19, the next two seasons they finished higher in the league with more points after Maguire was sold.

Was mainly made to look good by having Jonny Evans as his partner who can actually read the game and be in the right position.

Also plenty of complaints at the time we signed him, this is definitely not a hindsight thing, Maguires just a really bad defender, always has been.


8.) 26 Mar 2022 11:59:05
Forget Mourinho, ten Hag, Poch et al, you lot should get the role on a job share basis!


9.) 26 Mar 2022 15:31:44
It all becomes clear, Shappy's master plan is to write so much that he can draw quotes like this from the past and look like mystic meg.

Just kidding Shappy.

Plenty on here did not want him, and many more felt sick at the price.

I don't think he has been as bad as everyone on here thinks, but for sure our back 4 has not had a good season at all. Changing personal every other game does not help that.


10.) 26 Mar 2022 15:51:36
Dodgy, I was always pretty clear that Maguire wouldn't have been my choice and I gave valid reasons why.

As it turns out I was right (I suppose even a broken clock is right twice a day) .

Has he been awful? Not really, on the whole he's been okay. Nowhere good enough at the price we paid for him, but a solid enough player.

The problem is we have been crying out for a world class CB.

For me the biggest problem was making him captain. It's difficult to leave out you're captain most weeks, while CB isn't a position you would look to chop and change that much ideally. You rarely bring on a CB during a game unless there is an injury or unless you are looking to shut up shop.

So our next manager is left with the options of taking the captaincy off of Maguire, dropping the captain, or having to play him.

For me the only way you can play Maguire and mitigate his weaknesses and still have a chance at playing to a high level consistently is to switch to a back three system.

However, in truth I don't think Maguire's ball playing abilities nor his stepping out into midfield is good enough to warrant such a shift in team shape and tactics.

You change the shape of a team to get the best out of a world class player, not to mitigate an average one.


11.) 26 Mar 2022 18:53:11
Lollll I said before he signed i would not support Maguire being at United as he wasnt good enough and I remember i got slatsd by posters that Maguire is the next big thing.
Lollll.


12.) 26 Mar 2022 20:19:18
Not by me Singh, I didn't think he was worth 50-65m in 2018 when we were first linked.

It go as far as saying had we signed him in 2018 for 50m that would have been a bad deal.

So signing him for 80m in 2019 can only be seen as a disastrous deal.

I wouldn't say he is any better than either Lindelof or Bailly (good at a few things, but both with flaws that cost the team goals) . And they both cost 30-35m with UAT (United Added Tax, that we seem to pay on all signings) .


13.) 27 Mar 2022 07:18:40
When you go around saying how rich you are as a club, are you surprised when people up the price.


14.) 27 Mar 2022 10:08:23
From, we have always paid a premium regardless what our CEO is saying.

Clubs aren't stupid, they know we are a wealthy club. Our accounts are published after all. They know what our turnover is, they know what our profit is and they know what our wage bill is.

Woodward making silly declarations was just him showing off and bigging up his own self-importance.


 

 

06 Feb 2022 11:34:29
Looking at the Utd side, I cannot but feel that the fullbacks are the weakest of any team above them, and probably a lot of the teams below them in the table.
City, Liverpool and Chelsea are completely different teams when the likes of James, Chilwell, TAA et al are missing. In today's game the roving fullback/ wingback is pivotal in a side's tactics.
I look at our options and am completely underwhelmed. Vitntage Shaw is a great player, but we haven't seen that for a while. And don't get me started on the right side. Utterly average. Yet these positions don't seem to be on the list of priorities.

spenno

1.) 06 Feb 2022 12:55:41
AWB is so awful.


2.) 06 Feb 2022 13:22:56
Spenno- you are correct but a lot of speculation linking us to Lampety and in recent weeks a very tall athletic looking lad from German league coming out of contract.

RR is no fool, he might not be the best manager long term but I would say he knows a thing or two about building teams and i'm sure he will have a short list for the new manager .

On top of this there's chat this week of AWB getting fined for phoning in sick instead of turning up to be checked by doctor at Carrington and problems with his timekeeping. who knows what's true but it wouldn't surprise me to learn AWB might also be another one of our egocentric "stars" who grace us with their presense a few times a month for 100k a week.


3.) 06 Feb 2022 13:37:28
BFBW, I'd be surprised if AWB has an attitude problem, from people I know who have a few links at Palace have all said he was a quiet, well mannered, laid back kid while at Palace.

If he has developed an ego he will have done so at our club as he didn't display one while at Palace.

The only criticism I have been told about him is he is possibly too laid back and needs a bit of a kick up the arse from time to time. Which would explain his poor timekeeping.


4.) 07 Feb 2022 13:57:57
Shappy, bad attitudes come in different forms. A can't be bothered dimwit like you describe AWB is just as bad as a rabble rouser such as Lingard is portrayed.


 

 

03 Jan 2022 12:48:54
When was the last time Utd signed a real unexpected bargain, a player under the radar no-one had ever heard of for a modest fee? Is being forced to pay double a player's worth simply the plight of any top club when the selling club knows they're flush?
Or is it more about scouting? How are dozens of scouts suggesting the likes of AWB and Sancho, who frankly anyone down the pub could do, while pretty much everyone else picks up bargains season after season? When's the last time we had a Cucurella or a Dennis?
Just food for thought. I prefer the idea of a few low-key signings who fit a plan rather than forking out on a big name personally.

spenno

1.) 03 Jan 2022 13:23:13
Varane was unexpected and a bargain.
Evra and Vidic before that.


2.) 03 Jan 2022 13:25:23
I would argue that Evra and Vidic were low-key purchases, started off badly then became regulars.


3.) 03 Jan 2022 13:44:18
I'd say only Vidic was largely unheard of at the time of his signing and an absolute steal, given what he went on to achieve with us.


4.) 03 Jan 2022 14:13:19
Spenno, I think there are two main things that limit our ability to pick up an unheralded bargain signing.

The first is our name and status as a club. A mid-table club in a European league might be prepared to accept 15m from another mid-table side in what is considered a better league. But will they accept 15m from a UCL side with ambitions to win the league? Of course not. It also doesn't help when you're CEO is shouting about how rich we are at every opportunity. That means we will always pay 20-50% more for the same player as any "smaller" side.

How many times have we seen a player linked to United for 35m only for him to sign for someone else for 20m.

The second and probably more prominent point is that simply the step up from those lesser known, lower standard leagues to the top of the EPL for a side with the global appeal of Manchester United requires players to make a massive jump.

The media scrutiny, the tougher games and against sides that always see your team as a scalp, make that step up huge.

We have often seen us sign players like Djemba-Djemba, Kleberson, Bellion, Bebe, Chicharito, etc in these cheaper deals. But more often than not those players struggle to step up and adapt under the glare of playing at Old Trafford with over a billion views around the world.

We do make those sort of signings, it's just rarer for them to pay off due to the sheer level they need to step up and the pressure that comes with playing for United.

Playing for Manchester United is the equivalent of being a director at a fortune 500 company. Hiring the work placement intern for that role will rarely pay off. Simply put they need to work their way up to that position.

Very few players have the skill and the required mentality to go from 0-100mph playing for Manchester United.

They need to finish their apprenticeship first, hone their skills, develop their mentality, then test that at various levels before going to the top.


5.) 03 Jan 2022 14:34:06
I think poor old Bebe's fate was sealed when Fergie declared him potentially the best player in the world.


6.) 03 Jan 2022 20:47:11
I think the last of those signings was Javier Hernandez in 2010. A player not many had heard about before the WC. Wasn't world-class but I thought he was an excellent signing and served his purpose as an impact sub.

I suppose only Bruno stands out as a bang for buck signing followed by Sergio Romero who was an excellent stand-in for De Gea.


 

 

 

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24 Jun 2022 09:02:05
We're talking a premium player and price there, probably £50m+. Unlikely.

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23 Jun 2022 00:06:43
Raphina, seriously?

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22 Jun 2022 15:46:05
Assumably ten hag will be implementing the same style at Utd that he's instilled at Ajax so makes sense to go for Antony or Rafinha in terms of that, plus age and mooted value (although £40m for Antony if true does seem a little light) . Throw de Jong, maybe either of the CBs and Donny into the mix and he has 4 players well up to speed on exactly what is expected of them.

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22 Jun 2022 09:54:02
Not to mention he is a former Ajax player Shappy which seems to be the only requirement atm!

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20 Jun 2022 18:16:39
I would love Erikson at Utd.
What would be holding up a move if true? As a free agent surely the de Jong outcome wouldn’t affect it?

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24 Jun 2022 23:51:01
You can’t count Haaland as a free. The agent and signing on fees are science fiction, not forgetting the wages.

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24 Jun 2022 18:30:50
Thank christ ed14, the voice of reason!

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{Ed014's Note - there’s reasons to be cheerful spenno, that’s for sure.


 

 

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24 Jun 2022 09:03:10
Telles pretty much took all the set pieces and penalties for Porto. When those are stripped away from him he is a pub team player.

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24 Jun 2022 08:42:02
I'm sure we will be seeing plenty of Garnacho and Fernandez. Both were on the bench towards the end of the season.
Hopefully we'll never see Williams again. I appreciate he might have been more up against it in a Norwich side but he looked even less convincing there.

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23 Jun 2022 16:17:51
Liverpool have a couple of exciting prospects in Diaz and Nunez, who were regarded as the top two players in the Portuguese league last season. Thought Diaz was brilliant. Nunez does look a little more lightweight but we will see how he gets on, I'm looking forward to seeing him.

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