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Team: Manchester United

Where from: Northen Ireland, county Derry/Londonderry

Favourite player: Cristiano Ronaldo

Best team moment: Going to the stadium of light to see united vs Sunderland and witness the debut of adnan.

Interests: Rugby, Football, Tennis, Formula 1 and school work.


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15 Nov 2019 19:19:09
Hi Ed,

I was just wondering if you've heard about our interest in Erling Haaland and whether or not it's concrete, or is it just lazy speculation in the media due to the Norwegian connection with OGS.




{Ed002's Note - Erling Haaland (S) There is significant interest in the player from a number of sides and there have been discussions with one interested side already (last Monday) and one other side that could be offered him regardless of a lack of interest right now. Manchester United are interested and OGS knows him, but it would be a big step up with no guarantee of a starting place.. The kid needs to consider any move carefully and not end up on the bench.}

1.) 15 Nov 2019 19:54:42
I've not seen much of Haaland at all. Can anyone give a bit of a breakdown of his style of play?

2.) 15 Nov 2019 21:25:16
RJ, I can’t say I’ve seen much of him. But I’ve watched him in a few European games and you can see the guy just lives and breathes scoring goals. Physically he is very impressive for one so young. He seems a penalty box striker a bit like ruud.

{Ed002's Note - "Physically he is very impressive....". Tight buns? Each to their own.}

3.) 15 Nov 2019 21:25:33
Thank you ed 😂😂.

4.) 16 Nov 2019 09:45:50
An impressive physical specimen eh Caolan.

5.) 17 Nov 2019 16:14:58
The consensus seems to be that Rashford is too young to be the main striker for a club of United’s size to depend on. So why does Haaland help? He’s even younger and has been playing at a lower level. We need an experienced player in, if only on loan or for the short term.

6.) 19 Nov 2019 14:11:23
Rashford is not a central striker according to football experts 😁😁. Its not about age.



20 Oct 2019 10:23:31
More chat today in the media of a Saudi bid, could we see the 2020 sale ed alluded to years ago? My guess is that's it's more than likely rubbish reporting.


1.) 20 Oct 2019 11:09:48
When someone has that much money, I don't think you'd be hearing of a bid from the rag news papers. It would just be done if the interest was proper, you wouldn't hear about it until the day it was completed.

{Ed004's Note - I say a deal thats happening for over 3 billion will take months of drawn out conversations to happen. Therell be a tonne of finer details to iron out}

2.) 20 Oct 2019 12:22:32
There appears to be interest from the Saudi royal family, whether that come to anything is anyone's guess.

I am no fan of the Glazer's, yet I do feel the phrase "better the devil you know" might have some baring on this.

The Debt the Glazer's have place don the club is clearly a bad thing, yet we still have one of the highest spends on both transfer fees and wages world wide, which suggests the real issues with our club is on how we are spending the money rather than whether we have it to spend. There will be times when the debt might impact our ability to bring in a player or two. Yet overall that impact appears to be quite limited.

Any takeover bid should be viewed with a level of suspicion by fans. Rather than jumping to the conclusion of "good riddance to the Glazers". We should be considering WHY? someone want's to buy our club and what is in it for them? No one spends 3-4bn for the benefit of others, and certainly not to make football fans happy.

That's not to say that we wouldn't benefit from any potential takeover. It's likely we would. Or we could end up in the hands of asset strippers. Naming rights to the stadium could be sold or the stadium itself.

Ultimately we can do very little if the Glazers decide to sell the club, and probably even less when it comes to who might buy it. They will have their own motives and that may or may not benefit us fans in either the short or long term.

What we should probably avoid though is falling into the belief that someone will come waltzing in buy our club and solve all our problems in one fell swoop.

Often takeovers can be a poisoned chalice.

3.) 20 Oct 2019 13:25:30
I agree wholeheartedly with you Ed but I think that this has been recycled in the press too many times at this stage. If the Saudi's interest in United is real, then I don't think it would take them this long to stick or twist.

{Ed004's Note - Last time they appeared interested that scandal broke out regarding the murdered journalist. Its plausible they would have delayed any discussions until their public image improved. I think since then, Joshua and Ruiz jr has been announced etc}

4.) 20 Oct 2019 15:04:13
Its a smoke screen along with all the transfer rubbish that has come out the past few days.
They are getting all the excuses and fan appeasement as possible in, before Liverpool wipe the floor with us at our home patch today.

Do people not seriously see that whenever there is a bad result or something like today coming up the PR is out in force to calm the fans and delude them into thinking better times are coming.

Like why would it be revealed that Utd are buying 5 players next summer? And how many times before have we heard that we are having a clear out in the summer and nothing ever gets done. Wake up people!

5.) 20 Oct 2019 13:58:29
And let's not forget the multi year WWE deal.

6.) 20 Oct 2019 15:22:29
Dan, or alternatively the press focus more on United stories around the big games?

Plus with how the fans have reacted previously to managers getting bad results can you blame the club for attempting to put as much good PR out there as possible in the build up to such a game?

Why have a public relations team if they aren't going to attempt to appease the fans and keep public image up?

That is there job and it would be the same regardless of who owned the club or who was managing the side.

7.) 20 Oct 2019 15:46:31
When its all lies Shappy its a different story. If it was true I would agree with you.

8.) 20 Oct 2019 16:19:21
But Dan, without in depth actual working knowledge of what goes on behind the scenes at Old Trafford you can't actually know if it's lies or not?

9.) 20 Oct 2019 21:12:50
No smoke without fire. I think they are planning on selling.

10.) 20 Oct 2019 22:42:31
My take is that after the Ashoggi affair they dialed back any potential moves. It's clear the Glaziers after the father's death want to start looking at an exit and it's equally clear the club/ business needs investment both in players and stadia. Commercial growth has slowed so there's not much left for the Glaziers but ball ache with fans and spending cash.

I guess they need to weigh up the benefits of hanging around until the next TV/ streaming rights windfall and how much that will cost in terms of investment Vs cashing out.

Not sure if anyone saw but MBS (Saudi Prince) did a very polished interview about the murder of Ashoggi which has got to be about improving global PR.

We then have one of the Glazers selling up the other week.

Joshua Ruiz will be the next step in 'rebranding' Saudi Arabia plus all the other recent concerts and events. The washing process has worked very well for UAE and Qatar.

So there's a few indicators already but it will be a long drawn out process and the numbers are going eye wateringly high circa £3.8-4.2B

Personally I think football is a merky world and many good and bad owners have been from questionable backgrounds from Ken Bates to Roman Abramovic, Shinawartra, Abu Dhabi.

As we have seen with the Glaziers we have no input or say in who owns the club so I'm not even going to bother worrying.

I actually think an owner who will invest and develop the stadia will be a good thing and I'm not particularly fussed where they are from and how they got their money and would hope going global with a club of our stature would ultimately benefit the people of RSA and improve human rights.

Multi Billionaire's tend not to get so rich painting rainbows and fluffing kittens' pillows.

11.) 21 Oct 2019 09:18:42
Comparing Ken Bates to Mohammed Bin Salman is a bit of a stretch to put it mildly.

12.) 21 Oct 2019 14:53:40
Nikko you are certainly correct in terms of levels but without dropping and liable bombs all I will say is i know of Ken Bates from the inside via my Dad and it could be said he is lucky (or smart) not to be wearing her majesty's special PJ's.

A quick perusal of his biography leaves in enough smoking guns for you to join the dots.

Imo not a nice fella.

13.) 23 Oct 2019 16:34:53
Utd is all ready in the process of being sold . Its been going on for months . The glazers will not have the club in 2020 either a Middle Eastern set up or a Chinese mega deal will be running it. Heard it from a city trader in July . I saw it as bs but now i'm begining to believe everything might come true😀😀.



31 May 2019 11:10:23
Currently out in Portugal folks, and from what I've heard from a few sporting fans is that they reckon Bruno Fernandes is coming to united. Obviously no strong source or anything, but thought I'd pass that on anyway.

There are also a few newspapers reporting it out here as well ( saw that online) .



1.) 31 May 2019 11:50:32
Thanks for the info Caolan, looking at Ed002,s last update it did seem like he could be one of the likely signings this summer so fingers crossed.

2.) 31 May 2019 11:53:38
If United were to sign him, I believe he will play behind the striker as a no 10.
Or as the most advanced midfielder in a 4-3-3 system.
Perhaps a Pogba replacement?

The major challenge if we sign him will be his adaptation to English football.
He may probably need time to settle in as we saw in the case with Bernardo at City.

3.) 31 May 2019 13:28:35
Did bernardo need time to settle in to england? Or could he just not get in ahead of sterling, sane, kdb and david silva who were all playing amazingly well.

If bruno fernandes comes in as a pogba replacement he will have to hit the ground running as our team isn't good enough to afford him the luxury of time bernardo had at city.

4.) 31 May 2019 13:45:46
I believe Bruno played the most games for city last season, but has really become one of their most consistent players this year.

5.) 31 May 2019 13:47:12
Also Bernardo came from Monaco not the Portuguese league.

6.) 31 May 2019 18:53:59
Caolan where abouts in portugal are you? I've been living in lisbon for the past few months, and whilst i agree a lot of people say that. It seems to be there's nothing concrete yet. The majority of lisbon here are benfica and they seem to think atletico will get Joao felix.

7.) 01 Jun 2019 01:19:19
Would be a fantastic signing. Would take some of the creative burden off Pogba. Imagine both of them in free 8 roles in front of a Partey let's say. Now that's a Partey.

8.) 01 Jun 2019 06:38:19
RW we’ve been on a family break near albuferia and got chatting to a few folks staying near us. Unfortunately heading back this morning.



25 Apr 2019 14:45:39
Di Marzio said there's a possibility for a swap between icardi and lukaku. Doubt there's anything in this, but thought I'd share.


1.) 25 Apr 2019 15:36:49
Icardi has the right qualities on the pitch. Yet is at least as big a problem off the pitch if not bigger than any of our "bad egg" players.

I wouldn't go near him. His attitude stinks and his wife makes the characters on "footballers wives" look like a tame imitation.

She is makes Mino Look like a thoroughly decent and up standing bloke. This is a women who cheated on her husband with Icardi who was her husband's best mate, then weedled her way into being his agent. We need to give them two a wide birth.

2.) 25 Apr 2019 16:35:02
I'd steer well clear. Wasn't there rumours of her cheating on Icardi with another teammate?

3.) 25 Apr 2019 16:42:43
agree shappy stay well clear.

if lukaku wants to go then sell like anyone else wanting to go but do not get more baggage.

4.) 25 Apr 2019 17:07:16
If Lukaku goes the only player i'd sign qould be Jovic or Piatek. They are the next two big strikers about.

Icardi has all the talent but he might turn out to be another Pogba.

5.) 25 Apr 2019 17:23:32
Singh, I agree that these 2 strikers would improve us but unfortunately 1 has only just signed for Milan and the other will be chased by at least 3 or 4 top European sides this summer. These are the type of players we should be scouting and snapping up before their prices inflate.
We’ll end up paying over the top for ‘big names’ again.

6.) 25 Apr 2019 18:27:18
Well said 2toms but i think the biggest problem we are going to have this year is selling thr players we don't want.

7.) 25 Apr 2019 19:26:51
Icardi banged his teammate's Mrs then married her. Utd material right there!

But can you imagine Woodworm and Wanda's negotiation, Icardi will get £1m per week and a stand named after him 😂😂.

8.) 25 Apr 2019 19:45:09
If people on the site think pogba is virus/ bad influence/ trouble i can not wait for icardi and his wife to be associated with the club.

Alternatively we could choose not to replace lukaku and promote greenwood as a back up to rashford and then put all our resources into getting a right winger.

9.) 26 Apr 2019 06:23:53
Ideally I would gor for Robert Lewandowski for 2-3 years.
One of the best strikers for the past few years. He would take pressure off the youngsters and they can all learn from him.

10.) 26 Apr 2019 07:42:12
DSG, i don't see the use of a winger of you are playing with Rashford as a striker. He isn't someone who thrives on crosses. Better of if we could get a right forward for a 433 system. Winger would be useful if we play with Lukaku.

11.) 26 Apr 2019 10:22:35
We have three good strikers in the club even without Rom. Martial, Rash and Sanchez can all play there very effectively. I’d sell him and use the funds to buy Sancho or an equivalent for the right hand side.

12.) 26 Apr 2019 14:38:51
Was thinking about who we should be going for last night after reading about Lukaku wanting to leave and it occurred to me that in the PL era, our best signings have mainly been domestic signings. More often than not, the big name signings from Europe have failed us.

I’d be looking no further than Jamie Vardy. He has a proven track record banging in goals in the premier league, wouldn’t cost too much and wouldn’t stand in the way of rash and Marshall due to his age. I also can’t see him demanding anywhere near as much as a player coming in from Europe might.

For me, a summer of Wan-Bissaka, Alderveireld, Vardy, Kante and Neves would be exceptional business. I think we might still need an additional CB and CM though depending on departures and the distinct lack of decent wingers in the EPL means we’d have to look elsewhere. I’d break the bank for Mbappe or Sancho if it’s at all possible although I think we’d have to sell Pogba and DDG and get Sanchez off the books to have the finances to make this happen even if PSG or Dortmund could be persuaded to sell and the player persuaded to join (Perhaps the idea of coming home to Manchester and being closer to his family May appeal to Sancho? ) .

It sounds like football manager, but we’re not far from needing to buy a whole new squad and I don’t see any of the domestic players I mentioned being truly unobtainable. The latter are probably pipe dreams.

13.) 26 Apr 2019 15:32:59
I rather give Greenwood a chance then waste money on Vardy.

14.) 26 Apr 2019 16:14:21
You’d take a player that has done absolutely nothing to prove himself at the highest level over one who has outscored Lukaku in the Premier League over the past four seasons and would likely cost us very little? Considering how inconsistent Rashford and Martial are, the idea of starting next season with just Rashford, Martial and Greenwood doesn’t exactly strike me as a good one. I suppose if his name was Vardinho and he was going to cost us £150m you’d think otherwise.

15.) 26 Apr 2019 16:19:07
Icardi banged his mates Mrs, was gomez team mate and married her. now his Mrs has banged brozovic😂. I'd stay well away from Mr and Mrs icardi.

16.) 26 Apr 2019 18:13:11
If Di Marzio is saying. than there has to be some base in the story.

17.) 26 Apr 2019 21:22:14
Not really Redseven,

Vardy isn't exactly going to fire us into glory so why jot give Greenwood a chance to see if he is good enough.

We shouldn't be scraping for leftovers at other clubs.

Vardy a few years ago qouldve been a option for us but right now there isn't any point in bringing Vardy over.

18.) 26 Apr 2019 21:24:58
If you really eant a striker from the bottom half of the team then i'd rather go for the striker at Wolves.

{Ed025's Note - wolves are top half mate..

19.) 26 Apr 2019 22:16:45
I knew that was going to come back to me. 😂😂😂.

20.) 26 Apr 2019 23:52:51
As are Leicester.

21.) 27 Apr 2019 12:57:33
I get the logic. An experienced premier league proven striker would make a difference. One old enough not to block the development of younger prospects. But is that player Vardy? I think he's starting to slow down. I also don't think he'd be as cheap as people think. I'm not saying we'd be paying £50 million for him but Leicester don't need to sell.

22.) 27 Apr 2019 13:46:46
Over the last 4 seasons, the only players who have outscored him are Kane and Aguero. Age may be catching up to him, but he’s still looked sharp whenever I’ve watched him play this season (admittedly that hasn’t been often) . Given his age and the fact that he stayed with them a few years back when Arsenal wanted him, I don’t think the club would stand in his way or try to block it because this summer really would be his last chance to go to a top club (assuming you can still call us that and that that ship hasn’t already sailed) . They also need to free up wages and bring in a bit of cash if they want to make Tielemans’ deal permanent.

I’m not sure there are many experienced quality strikers in the League that aren’t playing for our top 6 rivals. Vardy is the only one, who for me, really fits the bill. Maybe Chicarito, but he hasn’t looked great since leaving us. Wilson, King and Jimenez haven’t looked bad this season, but none of them have scored more than Vardy nor have they demonstrated their ability to score in the top flight consistently.



11 Dec 2018 12:06:42
Garner and greenwood trained with first team today.


1.) 11 Dec 2018 16:28:18
They have also travelled with the first team. The under 19s are playing but maybe this is a sign they will be with the first team? Be interesting. Mason looks one hell of a talent.

2.) 11 Dec 2018 23:54:46
Jose has said Garner will be on the bench and Greenwood will be 19th man in case someone gets injured. Shame for him as I think he deserves a game based on his form this season even if he’s not quite ready.

3.) 12 Dec 2018 16:14:31
Its promising they're getting into the squad. Might be too soon but worth a look.

4.) 12 Dec 2018 19:00:54
Both on the bench, regardless of score/ result I’d love to see these kids get a chance.




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22 Jan 2020 23:07:53
I clinched the title this afternoon football manager, it's 2023 in that save. Unfortunately I don't see us anywhere near the title in reality by that stage.


1.) 22 Jan 2020 23:52:35
colan we only need 6 points to reach the magic 40 and then we are safe.

2.) 23 Jan 2020 06:37:18

I think the relegation points may be higher than 40 this year the way teams are playing down there, maybe 43 might be needed.

3.) 23 Jan 2020 10:42:37
you are probably right redman.



22 Jan 2020 18:44:53
Not looking good on the Bruno Fernandes front now. 3 weeks of negotiations wasted. We know the valuation of the player, knew it in the summer and still haven't got the player.
We are desperate from some quality recruitments and Bruno fits the bill.


1.) 22 Jan 2020 19:09:23
It's all because we have a masterplan to get maddison, grealish and sancho in the summer. the BS meter is on full at United if they think we will believe that.



16 Jan 2020 11:24:58
I really hope Ole sticks with Brandon Williams on Sunday. It'll be a huge test for the kid but he takes everything in his stride. As Gary Neville wrote on Twitter, he would likely eat your nose to win a game. We haven't got many of those characters at the club.

To me, I think shaw's finished as number one left back choice. He's not fit enough, and to be honest he doesn't have the bravery, hunger or desire that is evident in Williams game. A real shame because I like many thought shaw was going right to the top.


1.) 16 Jan 2020 11:53:00
It will be the third match in a week for the lad.
Need to carefully manage him.

2.) 16 Jan 2020 14:22:02
is it worth the risk of him playing at anfield?

a bad performance and the crowd? would it effect him.

i always say if your good enough you old enough.

dont change what's not broken.

3.) 16 Jan 2020 14:30:33
I actually think it would be smart to play him. Honestly, if Rashford is not fit for the match, we have to be realistic that 3 points would be a massive reach. There is nothing to lose for Ole to play Williams as we would not be expected to win the match at Anfield.

Besides, I think as much as Williams gets forward that could help fill the attacking threat down the left side with Rashford missing.



11 Jan 2020 01:38:42
Mejbri played for the 23s last night, and he was meant to be superb. Only 16, big future.


1.) 11 Jan 2020 07:13:41
Posted about him a few weeks ago, very talented indeed. Saw him run a game very skilful and creative. Also read an article about him, young French lad, seen as number one hot young prospect at his age.

2.) 11 Jan 2020 07:48:51
Fosu Mensah in midfield and Bailly making come backs also, sounds like they had decent games. Garner progressing in midfield too.

Come the Summer (and Poch/ Allegri? ) will be a decent pool of young talent (Under 23s plus Mejbri, Axel, Williams, Greenwood, James etc) to work with.

3.) 11 Jan 2020 08:33:10
Isn't the u23s mostly 17, 18 and 19 year olds anyway?

4.) 11 Jan 2020 10:17:07
Ours is Wilbot which is partly why they got relegated a few years ago, but some of the youngest in the team are impressing most.

5.) 11 Jan 2020 10:22:03
Born in January 2003, Mejbri is from Ivry-sur-Seine in France and of Tunisian descent. His career began at Monaco, where he came through the ranks as an attacking central midfielder, before transferring to United for £4.2million rising to £8.4m. He has made eight appearances for France's Under-16s side.

I watched highlights of him a couple of months ago and posted on here and on live chat as well. Take the time to have a look at him.

6.) 11 Jan 2020 11:00:46
Pretty big fee for a 16 year old they must think he's got a decent chance.



09 Jan 2020 00:06:14
In my opinion last night was inevitable. The injuries, the weakness in the squad was obvious. Is ole becoming an issue? Yes, because he's making errors, but what's worse is yet again the fans have turned on another manager and the amateurs who run this football club get away with it.

I'm not having a go at anyone, because I agree it would appear ole is out of his depth, but being realistic will many do better? Look at what we had to pick from last night, he'll over the course of the season. Some of the players at this club are pathetic and almost cowardly in their performances. I lost count of the amount of times I saw Jones and De Gea argue and throw their hands up last night- and that was only when we had the ball. The two most experienced players on the pitch for us and they moaned like spoilt brats when a pass wasn't on. I don't even want to waste my energy typing anything about Lindelof.

There is no quick fix here, we can't just get Pochettino in, and automatically make top 4. The recruitment constantly fails, Ed002 told us all summer we wanted at least 5, we got a kid from Swansea who wasn't meant to be a regular and two good signings in AWB and Maguire. That was it. Not many managers can or will come back from that imo. We chased Fernandes and wouldn't pay, we now hear the links to Maddison. If we want him, pay the money. Remember the quote "we can do things no other club can in the transfer market" go and prove it then.

Big decisions need to be made very quickly. If they want Pochettino, pay the money that spurs apparently would be owed and get him in with a couple of signings. If you want to stick with ole, then make sure he gets a few signings in. I know it's not football manager, but we are nothing short of shambolic. I would almost guess we won't make a January signing due to uncertainty of ole's position.

Ole isn't good enough, and off course someone has to be blamed. I will refuse to blame a man who's only got the best interest of this club at heart and accept the way those above him run it. This club needs to make a decision re the manger and whatever that decision is they need to be backed and given a chance.

To end on a slight positive, very pleased with Rashford this season and I think Brandon Williams is a proper player. Only one who tried to take the game to city. I think he gets what it means to play for United.



1.) 09 Jan 2020 03:30:17
I will never understand this blame it on everyone else defense.

Ole deserves to keep a job if he is a good manager. Even the ones who defend him seem to think he is in over his head and isn't a good one but somehow he should keep his job because there are others at utd as poor or worse at their jobs?

2.) 09 Jan 2020 04:43:59
If we don't improve the squad in this Jan window, our season could end in disaster because of the amount of injuries.

3.) 09 Jan 2020 05:29:39
80 million for maguire is not a good signing, in fact it’s possibly the biggest waste of money and worst transfer ever! He’s the turning circle of an truck and the pace of a tortoise so unless you’re happy playing a deep defensive line on that huge pitch that is old Trafford then I’d say it’s the worst signing I’ve ever seen. Sorry if I’m being so blunt but face facts. Koulibaly would have been ten times the player.

4.) 09 Jan 2020 06:54:52
Csm it’s not a defence of ole, it’s a criticism of the whole club. Our issues run a lot deeper than a manager. What happens in 18 months if Pochettino is in the same boat because he’s not got the squad required as we are happy to do the bare minimum and work like clowns behind the scenes.
Us being poorly run is why ole is in a job, surely you can see this? You will even see in my post that I say the job is not for him.

Also lerchy, the club more than likely wouldn’t meet the valuation of Koulibaly and don’t forget our wonderful recruitment system of 872 right backs scouted. Maguire has been okay, but overpriced. If he is in fact as poor as you suggest, he’s still our best central defender, so what does that say about the squad.

5.) 09 Jan 2020 07:07:09
Exactly Caolan.
The price is not the fault of Maguire.

Additionally, he has to cover for the woeful positioning of Shaw. His partner Lindelof is having a poor season so far. The other options Tuanzebe, Rojo and Bailly are constantly injured.
Jones is a mistake waiting to happen.

Most importantly, we don't have a proper defensive midfielder to offer more cover to the defence.

{Ed001's Note - do you not think Lindelöf is struggling because he is having to cover for the woeful positioning of Maguire then? Maguire is not your best defender, he is one of the causes for your abysmal defensive record. Yes Shaw is a problem, but Maguire is making it worse, not better.}

6.) 09 Jan 2020 07:24:25
What has happened with Lindelof Ed. Showed so much promise and now has falling off completely.

{Ed001's Note - partially the coaching is not helping him to improve, partially the tactics exposing him and partially he is spending matches with no idea what his defensive partner is doing. They haven't developed an understanding and Maguire is all over the shop with all the positional sense of a drunk wearing a blindfold, who has been spun round until he is dizzy.}

7.) 09 Jan 2020 07:42:28
I completely agree Ed, most united goals I see conceded he’s out of position and then looks to blame somebody else. I think tuanzebe needs to be given a go. I also think Leicester look better without maguire as they can now push forward a bit as soyuncu has the pace to cover Evans. Who imo is a much better defender than maguire ever will be and should never have left united. When rio and vidic was there Evans was always pushing and the 3rd best defender.

{Ed001's Note - Evans is a good defender, but he suffered with so many injury problems he could never be relied upon while at United, so it made sense for them to move him on. As for Soyuncu, he has pace and good timing in the tackle but his positioning is awful too. It seems to be a real problem with modern day defenders, very few take up good positions.}

8.) 09 Jan 2020 07:50:06
Caolan my post was about ole defenders in general rather than your individual post.

Is the utd board or hierarchy or whatever you call it, most at fault for our demise. Yes, without a doubt yes. Are utd's problems deeper than the manager, definitely yes.

But it doesn't absolve ole of his mistakes, he hasn't made brilliant signings. James has been decent, but the other 2 have a long way to go. We have a 50 mn fb who can't attack at all, an 80 mn cb who can't do anything. 130mn spent on defense and nothing's improved.

You say situation would not be different if we had a better manager, I disagree. A better manager won't have left us this short handed, a better manager would have a clue as to what the players are supposed to do on the pitch.

People who defend ole point to our current position and claim that we wouldn't do better, I disagree. May be if this was a normal season, the team might not be better than a 4-5th at best. But this isn't a normal season, Tottenham have collapsed, arsenal have endured one of their worst ever seasons and yet we find ourselves outside top 4, the only reason we have a sniff at top 4 is because Chelsea's form fell off a cliff in December. A good manager would have us alongside city and leicester this season.

You say what will happen if pochettino's in a similar situation, I would back him because he has shown he can be a decent manager even if he crumbles under pressure at the end of the season. Ole's shown he is utterly useless.

9.) 09 Jan 2020 08:02:49
I think it's something VVD has improved on. When at Celtic and Southampton, I thought his positional sense was awful. But since signing for Liverpool, that side of his game has really improved and IMO, he now looks to be one of the best CBs in the world.

I think Liverpool's coaching team deserve a lot of praise for that.

{Ed001's Note - his positional sense was fine, his problem was concentration, he would get caught out of position because he would fall asleep mid-game. It was too easy for him and he would stroll around. What Liverpool have done is wake him up and made him realise he can't coast through games. Well you can't in a defence playing such a high line anyway, as it only takes one momentary lapse and you are watching the ball slid into the back of the net. Sometimes at Southampton he would bring the ball out of defence and then stroll back as well, that has also been taken out of his game as that was when most of Saints' goals were conceded. He would be just about reaching the edge of the box sauntering back while the keeper was picking the ball out of the net.

Klopp is too intense to allow those issues. Every second of every game, whether it is a friendly or a cup final, matters to him. That is transmitted to the players and makes them raise themselves to try and match his expectations. It is reminiscent of the likes of Busby, Shankly, Paisley and Ferguson in that respect, in that he does not just have the desire but he can get the players to feel the same way.

I think Maguire has the same desire, it clearly matters to him from kick off until the final whistle, he wants to win every ball. The problem is that he doesn't have the intelligence to see clearly the difference between going and winning the ball now and waiting for just the right moment to get it. Without that brainpower, it is unlikely he will ever learn it either.}

10.) 09 Jan 2020 08:34:03
If there is a better coach in place, you still think it's unlikely he will get any better. City were rumoured to be interested in Maguire surely Pep saw something in him he felt he could teach him.

I didn't think he was worth it when we bought him, in fact I think I said there were are least 5 better CBS in the prem alone but I think he has also gone backwards too.

Worrying times at the club, players regressing, others want out, the question of whether or not players want to move there and a scouting and transfer strategy that seems devoid of any strategy at all.

11.) 09 Jan 2020 08:38:38
ed001 with you saying vvd needed to wake up because liverpool play a high line,

would you think it would benefit our defenders to do the same and for the team to play a high line,

or maybe there just not that great and the lack of quality in front of the defenders would just cause more issues.

i think awb is fantastic defensively and Williams i prefer over shaw and rojo at left back.

{Ed001's Note - with two centre-backs who clearly haven't developed an understanding a high line would be a recipe for disaster.}

12.) 09 Jan 2020 08:46:54
Maybe pep was bluffing so united jumped the gun? If pep wanted him he’d be there.

13.) 09 Jan 2020 08:55:50
angelred i think you have hit the nail there.

with a manager and coaches who know what there doing players would not be walking around half arsed and they would improve.

we risk the decent young players we have not progressing.

14.) 09 Jan 2020 09:19:43
Csm, It’s hard to say ole left us short because again Ed told us we wanted 5 players with a goalkeeper potentially if de gea left. He didn’t get it- I point the finger at the board for that one.

Poch I agree is a good manager and has shown that, but in 18 months if we aren’t much better there will be people using the fact he’s not won trophies as the stick to beat him with.

I want poch and I want his back room staff in, purely for the hope some players will improve.

15.) 09 Jan 2020 10:58:21
Not a defence of Ole, but why is everyone so keen to allow the people who appointed Moyes, LvG, Jose and Ole to have another shot at it and appoint our next manager?

Moyes and Ole are clearly not good enough, LvG was long past his best and his style was ill suited to the club and Jose although a top manager was a very poor fit for our club.

I see lots of people pointing towards Allegri or Pochettino, they are clearly better managers than Ole. Yet there are clear issues with both of them.

Allegri doesn't speak English (he is learning currently, but a language barrier when a manager is trying to introduce new ideas is always a problem, Ancelotti brought in Ray Wilkins when he moved to Chelsea as he needed someone who spoke both English and Italian to bridge that gap while he improved his English) . Allegri also plays a defensive, pragmatic style of football and has never really been a manager who has helped improve young players. Which considering the make up of our squad would be a glaring issue.

While Pochettino has been given credit for improving young players and can speak English, while his teams tend to play entertaining offensive football. He has yet to show himself as a winner, often crumbling with the finish line in sight. Twice having a no show in a cup final and capitulating to allow Leicester to win the EPL.
I would also question his ability to develop young players, there is a world of difference between giving young players a chance and game time to working with them to improve aspects of their game. Many of the young players he has played improve to a point then stagnate or regress. Dier and Alli being prime examples. While it becomes difficult to name many more youngsters he has given a chance to who have really stepped up and improved. Winks maybe.
Young players under Pochettino have improved their decision making, which is improved through experience. But have they developed their passing range, or their defensive awareness, the quality of their shooting etc.

What sort of manager would the club look to? Are they after a short term fix, a Mourinho type manager who'll come in shake things up get some immediate results but fail to put to have a long term plan. Do they want a top coach who'll improve the players and make our young squad into a side of top players, do they want a manager who'll have a long term plan who is prepared to sacrifice the here and now to build something bigger and more long lasting?

Personally I'd go for Ralf Rangnick, get him in to start to turn the first team around, with a view to him moving into a DoF type role after a couple of years. His sides tend to play good football, while he has a history of developing young players. He is also the kind of person who can plan longer term and create a vision. Whether the club could tempt him is another matter entirely.

16.) 09 Jan 2020 11:26:50
Shappy right off the bat there is the stick united fans would use on Poch- trophies. He took spurs to a champions league final and lost to a Liverpool side who have dropped 2 points this season.
I think he is a great manager, you could argue overachieved with spurs. He had no funds to improve the side, so by saying certain players stagnated, is that down to the lack of competition for places? Look at de gea at the moment? I think Henderson this season has been far better but unfortunately that’s for Sheffield United. Could he help be the push to get Dave back to his best?
In every manager in the world there are pros and cons, but out of managers available I think Pochettino fits the philosophy of this club, and is much better than what we have at the moment.

{Ed047's Note - shouldn’t that Mark Robins be your next manager, sure he scored a great goal for you once against Forest didn’t he?

17.) 09 Jan 2020 13:07:22
Tell me what you think of the leeds board and set up?
How are their finances and owners doing.
Ill tell you it's been in turmoil for years. They even had to sell their grounds.
But they play great attacking football. Their players are well coached. They are improving hugely.
Because they have a coach who knows what he is doing.
To say everybody else would do as bad as ole is frankly BS.
Get a proper coach in and thinks will improve on the pitch.
Not too many 10plus million players at leeds but they would beat us i re non 8 times out if 10.

18.) 09 Jan 2020 12:32:44
Finally people are realising Maguire is poor and a very expensive mistake.

19.) 09 Jan 2020 13:33:18
Caolan it was ole's decision to dump lukaku, if ole had any doubts over woodward's competency, he should have made sure not utd don't sell lukaku before getting a striker in. Same with hererra, he clearly was on the Greenwood bandwagon for some reason and let the transfers happen.

Shappy my first reply to caolan was exactly about your type of a post. A manager shouldn't be sacked for being rubbish because the people appointing the next one are of similar quality, how does that even make sense?

somehow pochettino should not be picked because long term development of players is suspect but keeping ole is fine?

Most would take defensive football with some idea behind it to the nonsense we put on display every week, and the current football is anything but progressive.

Also how was lvg a guy who managed Holland to a wc semi before coming to us past it but a guy who has been employed as a manager only for 2 seasons in past 10 years the perfect choice?

20.) 09 Jan 2020 14:16:48
"Not a defence of Ole, but why is everyone so keen to allow the people who appointed Moyes, LvG, Jose and Ole to have another shot at it and appoint our next manager? "

Well mainly down to the fact we have no choice.

At this stage, most managers available are way better than Ole right now. So it shouldn't be a difficult decision to make. Allegri, Poch, Blanc. Any of them are infinitely better than Solskjaer.

21.) 09 Jan 2020 14:20:05
Ken Ed001 will tell you how good bielsa is. I will also reverse what you are saying and ask why they are still in the championship?
I agree we need better coaching, but was Jose and his staff poor? Was lvg’s staff poor? We can’t keep blaming every single manager. Look at what Lvg has had to say about the club mate.

22.) 09 Jan 2020 12:55:03
I guess you have a thing now for average players who won an FA cup being in charge of their old clubs Ed 😉.

{Ed047's Note - as long as they haven’t failed at Cardiff I’m definitely up for it mate. 😉

23.) 09 Jan 2020 16:33:21
Yea why would we want the failed spurs manager?

24.) 09 Jan 2020 16:39:29
CSM, with every appointment the club has made we have moved further and further away from where we want to be.

What confidence do you have that THIS time they will move us in the right direction by making the right appointment?

I agree that Ole probably needs to go. For me through the key is when.

Do we rush it and do it now and risk making a mistake. Or do we take our time, consult the right people, maybe even bring in someone who help inform the process and make the decision in due course.

25.) 09 Jan 2020 17:07:03
So shappy we shouldn't be making a change when top 4 is still within sight and with chance of giving the new manager extra time to get the team in shape for next season but rather we should be waiting for ole to kill the top 4 Hope's completely and then leave the new manager hamstrung as he will then have to go into the window with no CL football and less time to work his tactics for the new season.

26.) 09 Jan 2020 17:34:52
Did spurs get relegated under Poch GDS ;)

27.) 09 Jan 2020 19:27:21
Oh I was unaware Cardiff got relegated, nobody has said 😉.

28.) 09 Jan 2020 21:43:39
CSM, if we sign the wrong manager and they spend 2 years here, and in that time they don't develop our young players, maybe a couple of good youngsters leave as they can't get in the team, maybe the new manager pushes the club to sign older ready made signing, maybe most of them don't adapt.

We were sure things wouldn't get worse when we demanded the club sack LvG. Surely things would improve. Yet here we are.

This isn't about whether we should or shouldn't replace Ole. It's about doing the due diligence we didn't do last time that ended up with us having Ole as our permanent manager.

29.) 10 Jan 2020 04:33:34
Btw, Koulibaly is having a very poor season.
Abysmal defending in most games.




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16 Jan 2020 11:10:59
Too much smoke without fire this time around mate. Especially on our side, reports today of terms being agreed. Sporting want him to play on Friday so I’d say it will be announced after Liverpool game. Hopefully it’s not something designed to improve the mood if Sunday goes badly lol.




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10 Jan 2020 19:11:58
Sports witness broke it down, every station in Portugal saying the same thing. Obviously Portuguese press can been unreliable, but there’s not many conflicting reports.




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10 Jan 2020 15:39:55
As I said the other day with the situation we are in we should just pay the money. The line from the club is we will spend if right players are available and will improve us. We wanted him in summer, clearly still want him so we just need to meet the asking price and get it done.




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08 Jan 2020 23:35:18
Frenchman regardless of what you think of ole he is doing his best working under complete amateurs. I’m not saying he’s great or anything like that. But people need to open their eyes and realise nothing changes until there’s a major restructure and we start acting like a proper football club.
Ole like every other manager is the scapegoat for our failings off the pitch.




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07 Jan 2020 11:30:14
Dazw, it really shouldn’t take 60 times to work out whether someone is a player, it’s great having all these reports but if you need a years worth of footage on one player to work out if he’s good enough, then they likely aren’t. I appreciate it’s not an easy job, but you can usually spot a player a lot quicker than that!





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22 Jan 2020 19:58:40
It pains me to say it, but I agree with him. I don’t see the plan.




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20 Jan 2020 17:53:37
Rohan garner and levitt have both just come back from injuries mate. Only played one 23s game.




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20 Jan 2020 16:38:51
It quite frankly will be a disgrace now if the club don’t get Bruno Fernandes deal over the line. It’s not fair even considering throwing Mejbri into the first team yet. He’s only a 16 year old kid and this is his first year in England. A player we wanted in the summer is available and we continue to mess up negotiations. We knew the price in the summer and we know it now- either pay it or move on. So much time gets wasted.




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16 Jan 2020 11:12:18
Maguire is the new whipping boy it seems. He made a few very good stops last night, the goal came from him being composed in defence and he handled jiminez very well I thought.




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12 Jan 2020 10:55:23
Be happy with the win for goodness sake.